@@GT_rising24 I mean, if they recasted Bruce why didn't recasting Betty aswell? Jon Kent, Sara Lance & Rachel Dawes are the main proof that recasts are allowed if the characters are still needed when the actor leaves
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 iirc Universal Studio's own the rights for a solo hulk film, and if they wanted to include Betty in a MCU movie they would have to include her in a Avengers or any tag team movie like Thor Ragnarok, most people wouldn't want a massive part of a team up movie to go to Betty and if she has too minor of an appearance it's better to not include her
@@sudeeptoshoron4755 1. CW didn't have the rights for Superman(before 2020) yet they still treat him with respect & INCLUDED LOIS LANE 2. if you can't properly use the character THEN USE ANOTHER ONE, I mean, literally none of the MCU Roster were A-Listers before the movies 3. You are LITTERALLY defending the same studio that sued a terminal child, just stop 🤢
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 And they vegetable him , his relationship with Tony and experience in the military can make him a way better iron man than that annoying teen brat iron man wannabe
This is something the MCU cannot comprehend for some reason; Not every character needs to be funny. Like you said about Black Widow, in the comics she’s basically a female John Wick, in the mcu they gave her way too many quips and jokes that feel out of place.
Fun fact, the Wasp (Janet Van Dyne) was supposed to take Black widow’s spot for the first avengers movie. She would’ve calm the hulk down in age of Ultron by using the same exact “the sun is going down” trick that Natasha did. However it wouldn’t been a some type of romantic relationship thing because Jan is with Hank in this version therefore Bruce would still had Betty as his love interest. Also, Due to Jan’s character of being kind and caring, she would had a trust type of bond with the hulk or even a friendship with the hulk. I wish we had that instead of Hulk/BruceXNatasha.
@@CartoonSociety-in9ci I would NEVER forgive the C.U.M. for hiring THE PERFECT ACTRESS FOR JANET VAN DYNE who was a huge fan of Wasp comics (Hayley Lovitt) just to CGI-ed Pfeiffer's face on her body & delete most of her scenes 🤬
I totally agreed with you especially the relationship Wasp and the Hulk had in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes where she was the first one to give the Hulk the benefit of the doubt.
@@S_raB ua-cam.com/video/tWfufux4BCw/v-deo.htmlsi=gu2H6Y0qxJyjHb2e does this sounds fake to You?. Yelena is a good character but the legacy that Natasha have on the mcu is bigger then Yelena obviously. No one is better than the original Avengers.
@@TerminatorFire-x8q It was a joke. The long pause is meant to convey how awful the mcu now is. Black Widow should've had a film in 2018 at the latest.
Always thought that Sif should've been more prominent in Thor's story (just knowing about the mythology at the very least), and that was before learning how important she was in the comics. They could have at least made her a better/closer friend to Thor in particular since she was a competent fighter, but nope, she just disappears. Would've been pretty helpful in that Endgame fight, I bet.
In the comics she was the sole reason why Thor became worthy. He picked Mjolnir for the first time to save her after she was kidnapped. He became worthy when he tried to lift that hammer to help someone he loved, not to make himself powerful. Sif then returned the favor when Hela was about to drag Thor's soul to Niffleheim, but Sif pleaded on her knees to take her instead and made Hela, a character whose shtick is to be cold and emotionless, cry when she felt Sif's dispair. The MCU screwed up Thor's iconography worse out of any franchise I can think of.
It wasn't until Black Widow's solo movie that i realized that Marvel failed her. I think her being a side character in all the other films kind of hid the flaws/contrasting elements of her story. I was expecting her movie to be a mission impossible style Spy movie that shows her abilities that we never got in the "main" movies. Instead, it was a generic superhero movie that honestly didn't make much sense for her character. Needless to say, I'm disappointed with the direction they took with her, and she deserved better smh.
Black Widow in Endgame: “The Avengers are the only family I have” Black Widow in her movie: Has her own family outside the Avengers. Her movie ruins the fact Black Widow sacrificed herself for the Avengers cause she saw the Avengers as the only family she had in life. Hawkeye and Cap cried over her death in Endgame thinking she was the only people she saw as family. Now there is not as much weight to it anymore when they retconned it.
@petermj1098 Exactly. I honestly wouldn't mind this whole "spy family" aspect if they just executed it better. One way for that would definitely be for that movie to not be a shoe horned midquel thing that comes after the character died off (duh). It was just such a letdown because, once again, they had a lot of potential for her character and they just didn't really do much with it smh.
*6:48** Armored Adventures defines her perfectly via Hawkeye lecturing her:* _Tasha, I became a criminal because MY BROTHER got involved with THE WRONG PEOPLE, meanwhile YOU because you actually like this life_ & Then Widow Replies: _BECAUSE IS THE ONLY LIFE I KNOW_
You are aware you can just edit comments, right? You don’t have to leave a new comment every time you see something you wanna comment on, just put it all in one comment. Also, why are you caps locking all the time? What is that?
I would love to know how pepper instantly knows how to use an iron man suit to its full capabilities. How does she know how to fly around perfectly, while shooting all these lasers and special attacks at the same time??? Learning to fly like that would take a LONG time. And dont even get me started on "the valkyrie..."
@@I_am_a_cat_ in both comics & Armored Adventures we saw her making intensly hard training to learn how to use the armor, in the CUM she just happens to knows it & learn it how it works OFF-SCREEN once again proving: Comics & Animation > Live Action Movies
@@fnh123 YUP, IT IS TOO For some dumb reason they decided to delete the scenes of Rhodey training in the suit & left them on a Tie-In prequel comic I bet most of people didn't even read But thank god they left the scene of Tony going to the bathroom in the armor, THAT WAS WAY MORE NECESARY TO THE PLOT (Nótese el Sarcasmo)
I can forgive the Iron Man 3 Pepper action because the actress was kind of here and there, so they had to write around that. What I will NEVER forgive is the travesty of Black Widow and especially Captain Marvel
@@Seetiyan yeah that's why I said that the cgi in doctor who bad most the time except the past few years but is 60 years old so most the episodes have horrible chi
Here’s something I really don’t like about about black widow in the mCU and it’s an element that has blend in other media. I know it’s probably something that came even before, but why is she an avenger by that I mean why is she part of the public eye team been a spy and all sounds like she should not be in the front lines.
Her membership as an Avenger has always been back and forth in the comics. Mostly, she is there as an eye on the Avengers. Her motives are always muddy and her true allegiance is unclear as she is a double agent, which means she screws over her allies just as easily as she screws over the Avengers' enemies. All you know is that she mostly works in the best interests of S.H.I.E.L.D.
It all started with the Ultimate comics. She was a member of the Avengers there, and both she and Hawkeye were put in the place of Ant-Man and the Wasp in the MCU because they're as complicated and controversial as an actual wasps nest in the comics. Originally, Wasp was planned to debut in the first Avengers film with Zooey Deschanel being eyed to play her, but that was their contingency plan in case Scarlett Johannsen's contract didn't get renewed for the film.
the whole jane foster thor thing was so out of left field. Thor is a name...they can even say it's a power. but when you pick up mjolnir, you don't become thor. You can wield the power of Thor, but you aren't Thor. Was vision Thor when he picked up mjolnir for a few seconds? Was cap Thor when he wielded Mjolnir? what if he leaves it in an elevator - is the elevator thor now? of course not. it was just a lazy lazy retread to make her a girl boss. and don't get me started on the bs of kids shooting lazers and lightning out of their teddy bears against paper mache CGI monsters.
Jane Foster the Goddess of Thunder Mighty Thor is an amazing character, a strong and complex woman with dramatic depth and a courageous personality ⚡️🫅🔨💪
@@ChaosReaper426 and it was bad in the comics as well. All of these things were seeing in phase 4/5 were done in the last 30 years and haven't done very well. It doesn't give them credibility (free comic book day at my lcs had common back issues for $1 with bag and board. There were BOXES and boxes of these comics people didn't even want for 75 cents) Boggles my mind how Disney doesn't use the mountain of metrics and data points marvel must have about what characters/stories/issues sell well and resonate with fans and then chooses all of these garbage tier choices to bring to the forefront.
Another female character that has been done dirty by the mcu is Sharon Carter. They would rather give off her character traits to other characters(Nat and Peggy) than giving her the story she deserves. Like the only reason Peggy was even created in the first place was to set up for Sharon’s story. They took so much away from her and reduced her into being a background character. Which is ridiculous considering her role in the Captain America comics.
She wasnt a background character in the falcon and winter soldier series i thinm they made her a villian but she doesn't feel threatening enough i think she may have an important role in thunderbolts but we'll see
Braeden, you're a really refreshing and positive voice to the comic book fandom. I hate the mishandling and treatment of the mcu, the disregard of the books but you tackle it in a respectable and.... eligible way. You don't take it too far and unlike other youtubers it isn't a mask to state their politics. This goes for them and disney, exactly the same just hating on others. You give true constructive criticism that isn't steeped in hatred. This video to me proves this, you don't just go "mary sue bleegggh" or "woman woooooo" to any woman but actually value the integrity of a good character and their fullest potential. The internet is a hell hole these days so I always look forward to your uploads.
@@raimiallpowerful2020 Yeah, that's something I love about Braeden, instead of the typical: _mcu woke, infinity saga better, mcu is bad because I say so_ He instead goes by the route: _They are butechering a far superior material & I'm gonna show you how they're doing it_
I think the problem is obvious….none of their stories was planned at all. I think at best, they planned their stories for one or two movies and then didn’t care about them until they started this paper thin fake “feminism” thing. If you can even call it feminism.
I think that's what happens when it's pandering for money rather than written with genuine intent. You can feel their type of "feminism" shoe-horned in. It's doesn't feel organic. Especially when it's just having women on screen degrading men it misses the entire point of feminism. Women being capable, adaptive, using their own intelligence etc to earn their success is feminism; lifting women up at the expense of men is not and just plain lazy writing. As well just handing success to them without earning it is also boring, and that happens way too often.
3:40 Rhody does work mainly because he and stark are genuinely close friends that built up enough trust overtime to use an iron man suit (Rhody was iron man at one point because Tony can be drunk) on top of the fact that he is a marine. There may be a very subtle starship troopers reference. It's very very very subtle.
@@jonathanathor117 also because Rhodey in 616 was not created as Tony's sidekick, he was originally his sucesor(Like Ben Reily & Azrael), but due to his popularity among readers & Iron Man not being a household, he was separated from Iron Man's book & got his own as War Machine
The only adaptation from the MCU I’m ok with are Guardians of the Galaxy. Even if the characters are entirely different from the source material, James Gunn made these unknown D-List characters into household names. The entire trilogy enjoyable and fantastic to watch. Other than characters getting nerfed, I almost have no problems with guardians of the galaxy.
I don’t agree with everything this video has said but I can’t deny that you bring up some good points about taking some of these female heroes seriously and taking their legitimate skill sets into account as well as respect their respective roles in each story Like yeah, why doesn’t Black Widow do proper espionage spy shit? Why isn’t Sif more relevant than Jane and why does Jane die so soon if they actually give a shit about female representation? WHERE IS ENCHANTRESS ALREADY?
I was hoping for Enchantress myself when I saw Skurge in Thor 3; I always thought that Charlize Theron would have been perfect for Enchantress as opposed to playing Clea at the end of Doctor Strange...
To be fair on Pepper wasnt there an issue that the actor was having so they had ti write reasons why she wasnt there until they were able to get her back
That’s gonna be a problem with planning out these big franchises as actors don’t want to be tied down as much into one commitment. Paltrow has been in Hollywood for some time now and has other interests going on for a time. Maybe that’s why Marvel is pushing newer actors to be their leads in films: so they can stay in the MCU for as long as they can use them.
I wish another director than Waititi would have done Thor 3. Maybe we would have gotten a better Hela. I still liked her, mostly because Blanchett has a lot of charisma in the role. But there was a lot more potential.
Ok this video was actually pretty damn good. I thought it was just gunna be yet another *_”We hate women/ Marvel is ‘woke’ ”_* piece but there were many very good points. My absolute fave was this take on the Black Widow! That would have been *_incredible!!_* 🤩🔥 Sucks that we’ll never have that 😞
Stark, Pym, T’challa, McCoy, Richards, Banner, Parker, Zola, The Leader and many others. We already have so many other geniuses in the mcu and some of them didn’t even had the chance to showcase it!
3:30 Is actually necesary to mention that Pepper WAS NEVER TONY STARK'S ROMANTIC COUPLE, that's something introduce by adaptations(not just CUM BTW, also by the cartoons & games like Armored Adventures & the Anime Universe for example) She orginally was suppoused to be just Tony Stark's best friend(aside Rhodey) & closest confident, that's why she becomes Rescue in Matt Fraction's Run, not because she's Tony's Girl, but because she is his most trusted friend & a very capable Fighter in hard moments
The part of you saying that other's being capable renders the main hero not special is spot on. The same thing applies to Batman nowadays as he has 20 members in the Batfamily and 8 of which mainly operate in Gotham. Batman should be more like the Sith with the rule of two Master and the Apprentice. This time with Batman, Alfred and A Robin at the most so when Dick leaves it gets to Jason, then to Tim then to Damian and that being the LAST OF IT. Once they leave they should go to other places far from him to be their own heroes or anti-heros. WHEN EVERYONE IS SPECIAL NO ONE IS SPECIAL.
crazy, an actual criticism for female characters that isn't just screaming weird buzz words and sound effects and laugh tracks the whole video in youtube, who would've thought
3:54 *AM SORRY BRADEN BUT NO* Rhodey WAS NEVER written as Tony Stark Sidekick in the 616 OG Comics, he was created as a new generation Iron Man for new readers(just as Ben Reily during that time was Peter replacement), HE BECOMES WAR MACHINE AFTER he lefts Tony side & get his OWN comic book series, due to his popularity(because unlike Ben Reily or Azrael, he was not replacing a Household name) Oh, & Pepper debuted as RESCUE in 2009, way before the CUM was the thing it ended up being
@@timewarpdrive77 yes, BUT the era Braeden is claiming is the All New All different(which started in 2015 after Secret Wars),Rescue's first appereance happens way before that Matt Fraction actually tunred her into Rescue because HE NEEDED A SUPER HERO PARTNER for Tony, because as I stated later, Rhodey was busy in his OWN TITLE & his appereances in said run are not as a sidekick rather as a guest star(no diferent to Thor or Bucky's Cap ones)
It's sad cause I loved Disney & it's 2D Animation growing up in the 90's. Now it's unrecognizable & it's monopolized many things. These people have proven they are only capable of writing narcissistic stories that self insert themselves and their own beliefs into anything they do. Even if they get to make something from a pre-existing beloved story, they cannot help themselves. They seem to be incapable of creating artistic creations that stray away from their own personal perspective, instead of showing they can lean heavily into escapism and pure storytelling.. They have proven time and time again that they are not capable of doing anything even remotely close to that.. (which is weird because that should be one of the most important attributes that a director or a developer or an actor has in order to be successful at their job....?) How is there no one that will fire these people who openly hate the fans, who hate the consumers were the one's who made their success in the first place.. There's now people like Kathleen Kennedy, She's a Perfect example of this awful trend where people keep getting these positions when they in no way deserve those positions. They are not hired based off talent or skill..? So we are seeing very expensive shows, movies, all so terribly designed, terribly managed, Awful writing, world design, character development, poor aesthetics. So much now feels creatively bankrupt and I really hope we all snap the f*ck out of it and get back to making better things. The new Acolyte show comes off so cheap & tacky.. It's not just the terrible writing & terrible acting. The whole thing is a complete self centered power trip.. It's horrible set design, horrible world building, horrible camera work. It all makes this show feel so small. Like it's filmed in a single green screen room.. Grasping at awful CGI techniques to try and force any bit of a false reality into this mess of a show. It's so far from Legitimate Star wars movies that it feels as if this whole thing is a big parody.. A very expensive parody.. Now Compare the "The Acolyte" as If you go back & watch "X-Men the Animated series" It was so well crafted. The story of the struggles of mutants having to deal with humanity was such a universally relatable storyline. Media back then was not afraid to face difficult topics head on. They found really unique ways to abstractly teach people life lessons. They touched on difficult situations & found intelligent ways to convey certain stories. Even when I was all grown up & rewatched it, it really felt like the story is crafted so well & executed at such a high level that anyone is capable of relating to it in someway or another. It's stuff like that, that we are deeply lacking nowadays. So much so that literal kid's cartoons from the 90's told deeper and more mature stories than most media nowadays. Stuff used to take pride in who can find the most creative ways to convey certain things. Who can give the audience certain feelings without overly explaining it. It used to not matter what kind of character, creature, species they were. What matters is that they found ways to convey artistic depictions of the Human condition. Creative ways that can connect us on a deeper level.
I strongly disagree with pepper because 1. This is the first time that Tony Stark made an iron man suit for anyone but his self. 2. Pepper literally lives with Tony Stark to know how the suit works. 3. It only appears in the endgame in the final battle where every superhero is fighting for the universe. This doesn't undermine anything of Tony Stark's goals or accomplishments.
Yes like just because she was background character in some movies doesn't mean she isn't important and her getting a suit makes sense she's literally the wife of ironman
disagree with your disagree. I think the problem isn't that Pepper wouldn't know how it works in general but that we never see her train or learn anything about the suit. The first iron man showed Tony doing a lot of trial and error and making adjustments. He had to struggle and earn his abilities with his brains and ingenuity. Pepper may have learned offscreen but Marvel does that a lot. Just show a quick scene of her figuring part of the suit out or learning from Tony. We get none of that and she just appears on screen and is as good as Tony with the suit. That makes Tony not seem as special as Iron Man. He's more than just the suit but this brings that down a bit. That's how I took the commentary on it
@@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc Well kinda because Tony was mainly making mark 2 during this period. While adjusting to hovering instead full on flying. Now once he made mark 2 he just started the flight test and he adjusted to it very quickly. Just like he said "There's a time where you got to run before you can walk". Also compared to all the marks in ironman 1 to her suit should not be in the same category. It also makes Tony better in terms of iron man suit training. Since every disadvantage his previous suits had are pretty much not relevant in her suit making her training less risky and faster than tony. Because since her suit has Tony advanced Ai if she messes up the suit would just assist her. Which Tony made mostly himself from the ground up. This just tells you anyone can be ironman but no one can be Tony Stark because without Tony her suit would never exist. Since he literally built it.
I completely agree tho! Completely dropping characters then randomly bringing them back is weird. I get Marvel doesn't wanna pay everyone for a 2 second cameo, and the actors are busy but still... They could explain this better
Betty Ross died with The Incredible Hulk. And the thing that came out was the MCU Hulk. I may be wrong but I absolutely believe that The Incredible Hulk won't be scared to fight against Thanos or his Minions in Wakanada
Tony Stark do have other love interest. Bethany Cabe, Joanna Nivena, Indries Moomji, and Kathy Dare. So weird that they made Pepper Potts a love interest out of all of these other people I just mentioned while pepper was just his secretary who never had any romantic interest with stark and funny thing is she is with Happy Hogan in the comics. 🤔
He never left??? Its crazy that people think taking a month to make a video means that the uploader has been "gone." He's been here the entire time dude. I would like a juice box, though. Please.
@@I_am_a_cat_ You’re so wrong, he’s been lost in the jungles of cambodia in search of his long lost father for the last month while the video sat on his hard disk
War Machine is also different enough from Iron Man that he stands on his own. The suit looks different, it has different weapon systems and operations, and it’s most importantly, COOL. All these cheap replacements have negative cool factor 😂
It's amazing how due to ideological reasons, female characters are no longer allowed to "just" be love interests, they're no longer allowed to be Damsels in Distress, female heroes HAVE to be at least as physically powerful and capable in combat as their male counterparts, and they can't ever be anything but exceptional. This might make for good "role models" (not really), but it doesn't make for interesting female characters that bring something unique to the table.
Cindel(Aubree Miller) and Charal(Sian Philips) from Ewoks The Battle For Endor(1985) are both better well written and likable female characters than any of the Modern 2020 MCU films. Change my mind. They’re also both a good heroine and villainess respectively.
The problem with blackwidow is mostly weird writing like it feels like they didn't have a plan for her but kept going like her whole existence was based on her being a hot sheild agent that is flirty and when they fixed her character (her movie) it was so late cuz she was dead
All Marvel, and most western media, had to do is just copy Japan by simply avoiding toxic identity politics, focusing on good writing and characterization, and nothing else😕
Armored Adventures Pepper Potts is so FREAKING GOOD as a character, despite she starts as a typical comic relieve, I love how as episodes progresses she becomes the brain of the team(while Tony is the lead & Rhodey the heart) & literally the only one who tried to be a real friend to Gene instead of just seeing him as a device to obtain more Makluan Rings Specially because we see her growing, learning & MOST IMPORTANTLY, TRAINING, ro become Resue & we actually saw him fighting as Rescue alongside the Iron Trinity(Hard to believe this is THE ONLY TIME WE SEE THE IRON TRINITY OUTSIDE IF THE COMICS) &, is hilarious seeing her so obsessed to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent 💜
I remember a particular season of a franchise that's still going to this day, released no later than 2015. In it, a previously-static female character is basically tasked with saving five other team members, as well as helping to save the franchise's equivalent of the multiverse. Throughout the season's 3.5-hour runtime, she evolves into a member just as capable as the other five, with guidance from both the other five's mentor as well as an antihero. Within the season's 10-day release window, the female character becomes everything Marvel has been trying to deliver on for over 15 years. Strong female characters are more than possible, but only if enough time and care and effort is put in during the production process.
The reason why Pepper was nearly written out was due to Palthrow's up and down relationship with Paramount/Disney. So they weren't sure if they were coming back. Also, let's not forget how they screwed over Maria Hill
Not for lack of trying. I don't know why they chose to take such a different approach with their female characters, they had taken the same approach with the male characters for years, but it was working! People liked the movies, so fuck it. Why the change? It's not the female characters, it's the way they refuse to give them a proper hero's journey
they've even lost their way with the male characters. Some of them have regressed as characters instead of developing further. Thor and Hulk are 2 good examples. I don't think that Hawkeye developed either and there are other examples. The different directors didn't care and just changed aspects of their character to fit the movie they wanted to make
Kidding me, it was all down hill with the establishment of Marvel Studios. Captain America, Hulk, Thor, all terrible movies. Iron Man 2 huge drop from Iron Man 1, which was before Disney bought Marvel.
I really like black widow but dang you have a strong point and it would have been great to see that character Having a big cast of heroes doing different things from one another would have been great, lean into their strengths and rely on each other for the things they cannot do individually It’s like they presented that a lot in infinity war and end game but the delivery of that was poorly executed in my opinion
I really hope Marvel doesn’t butcher Storm’s character when they introduce her into the mcu, the fox X-Men films did that enough (except The Last Stand)
I'm so happy you gave some criticism of Black Widow, but I think everyone seems to think that her suicide in Endgame was such a fantastical character moment for her, when it nullified the rule set for the soul stone, while diminishing a payoff for hawkeye. In her first film (Iron Man 2), she's clearly a cold agent and only on mission. In Avengers, she and Hawkeye clearly has history, and she goes out of her way to help him specifically. Avengers 2, she seems heartbroken about Hawkeye's family life, while also trying to find social company in bruce banner. Winter Soldier is similar to IM2 but she is also more open to Captain America, showing her desire for acceptance. Civil War, she initiates the request to stay friends with Hawkeye in their skirmish. After Infinity War and in Endgame, Hawkeye goes lone wolf because he lost everything (clearly doesn't care about the team or Natasha) while Black Widow is STALKING him for 5 years. When the time experiment initiates, Hawkeye volunteers because he doesn't care about dying since he lost everything. He is even in a spot of grief when he sees his family again but gets pulled back (which, to anyone, is foreshadowing his sacrifice). When they go to the soul stone, Black Widow dies, who was fairly established for the entire MCU to not be the dearest thing to Hawkeye. Clearly, Black Widow wanted acceptance, and felt that most closely with Hawkeye. Had Hawkeye died, giving his last request to save his family, he would have completed his own arc in the same film, while Widow would have lost that which she cherished dearest, hence giving her the soul stone. TLDR: Black Widow dying made me laugh out loud in the cinema because I thought they just lost the soul stone, since Hawkeye didn't care even fractionally for Widow.
a big chunk of how widow is portrayed in the mcu is how basically janet van dyne should have been portrayed if appearing on the movies. loving, caring, quippy and the heart of the avengers. she's the one who keeps them grounded and not thinking they're gods on earth. she's to the avengers what sue storm is for the FF. i understand people not wanting to have hank pym as a main avenger on the MCU, but janet was obligatory. she needed to be there. either along scott lang, or hank. but she had to be there.
That Girl Boss moment in Endgame was awful. So cringe.... So unearned. They could've banned together for Black Widow. All they would have to do is have Pepper and Wanda ask where Natasha is, only to find out that she died and she's never coming back. They both get even more mad and poof, you have a build up to the Girl Boss moment. But no. It's just for the sake of P**sy Power!
For me, I thought they dropped a huge ball on the black widow movie. A movie that people have been waiting and begging for years. A movie that should have come out before her stupid unnecessary death. They had all this time to hire the best writers to give her a very compelling story and a GOOD villain. Taskmaster was reduced to a wet paper version.
Elizabeth Betty Ross is Bruce Banner's Love Not Natasha Romanoff, Black Widow x Hulk shouldn't be a *SHIP* no way They just cut off a clever character Like Betty and replace her with *BLACK WIDOW* so weak from Disney/Marvel Studios' so fucking Disrespectful why the fuck is this Allowed to be a thing why Kevin?
The real love interest of Tony Stark from the comics is Bethany Cabe. She's a security expert, and a former romantic partner of Tony. Pepper and Tony never ever dated in the comics. Pepper is actually with Happy Hogan. Beth helped Tony deal with his alcoholism. Other than Beth, Whitney Frost would be Tony’s next best love interest. To me, Beth was Tony's True Love in the comics.... But MCU popularized Pepper Potts. Bethany Cabe is an interesting character. The Iron Man mythos has a lot of very interesting characters like her that the movies didn't use. I hope to see Bethany and Madame Masque in EA Motive's Iron Man game.
You forgot to mention how Betty Ross is supposed to come back in the new Captain America: Brave New World movie. I don't know if she'll be anything more than a glorified cameo but who knows???
Even though I find slogans such as “M-She-U” and the people that use them often as…kind of exhausting, I at least appreciate your dedication to be more productive in your critiques. It exudes passion for this franchise and desire to want better, rather than stretching to a 10 minute mark to cash in on controversy and views for as revenue.
I find the people making the M-SHE-U exhausting. So what if they use a word if they're describing a real phenomena. Seems kinda dumb to blame the messenger for the message
I found it exhausting that I had to go through this "moar diversity" thing twice and watch it fail both times. Years ago Marvel Comics did the exact same thing Marvel Studios did and got the same results. In fact I think DC Comics (which was going through its amazing _Rebirth_ initiative at the time) was actually able to overtake Marvel as the best selling American comic book company. Actually the mention of DC made me realize I've seen it three times. DC Comics launched their _Infinite Frontier_ initiative not long before phase 4 of the MCU and it also bombed horribly. My favorite was when John Ridely (the screenwriter of 12 Years a Slave) wrote a (thankfully non-canon) story where a de-powered Superman gets raped. That's a story that desperately needed to be told, right?
@@timewarpdrive77 Multiple things can be true at the same time. You can find the current state of the MCU exhausting (as do I) and I can find some of the people who spam the phrase online for engagement base exhausting as well.
With Hela, i hate that Thor didn't even bother to talk her down. He never gave up on Loki despite everything he did. But with Hela, he gives up on her completely because Ragnorak?
I always felt cheated when it came to Sif. I never read the comics, but she always stood out as someone who should be a MAIN character! She got Fin'd! (How last Jedi side-charactered him)
I completely agree, Black Widow was done dirty by making her a front line fighter with the rest of the far physically superior members of the Avengers was downright dumb. And what you described as being a chameleon, that no one but another superspy like Nick Fury, can read, would make for a far more interesting story. What is even more infuriating is that we know the actress - Scarlett Johansson, can DO the role, with the exception of an authentic Russian accent, she has demonstrated in her other movies that she can turn her charisma and charm on and off like a switch. Her performance in "Under the Skin" (2013) gave me chills!
Though these are movies and you have to suspend your disbelief. The bottom line is you can see a guy throwing another guy around but it's tough to see a gal throwing a man around. 😂
@@OneOfTheBoys23 that's LITTERALLY Armored Adventures sinopsis(tho they changed his alcholism for workoholism, but the message ended up being the same) 😎
Betty Ross got two decent movies before disappearing. And yes, im talking about Ang Lees Hulk. Jennifer Connelly was a much more convincing Betty Ross. Sam Elliot was the best General Ross
I pretty much agree with most of the points made, my only disagreements are the Red She Hulk and Rescue takes. I personally don't have a problem with Pepper getting her own suit however I do think it should've been set up better and most of that could've been done well in Ironman 3 if not for how that movie was ultimately handled. And as for Betty well in the comics her being Red She Hulk doesn't really diminish Hulk's presence or importance. Unlike Bruce Betty doesn't have multiple personalities and unlike Jennifer Walters Betty can't control herself as Red She Hulk, she becomes overwhelmed with all her negative traits bubbling up to the surface and in a lot of ways this adds to the tragedy of their relationship because Betty goes from loving Bruce and wanting to help him to Red She Hulk hating him and wanting to hurt him and it got soo destructive to the point that she even begs Bruce to let her die when she's fatally wounded and the only way for her to survive is to change back but she doesn't want to because of how much damage she causes. Betty getting powers in the comics has always been treated as a curse more than anything and usually it only adds to the tragedy of her and Bruce's relationship like when she was Harpy and was used as a weapon by one of Hulk's enemies and in a way put her in a worse situation than most Damsels in distress because she couldn't even cry for help. Now me personally I don't like how the MCU's handled really any of it's characters long term and I do agree with you on what they should've done and should do going forward. I hope they don't ruin Betty or Red She Hulk's character in the upcoming 4th Captain America Movie( Although she, General Ross and The Leader should all be brought back in a Hulk Movie/Show not a Capt. Movie) But something tells me that Disney still haven't learned their lesson and would still rather ruin these characters further for the sake of their current way of thinking at the expense of good entertainment and audience retention. Marvel needs a genuine win a step in the right direction and Disney needs to stop hiring the wrong people for the job and stop fighting with the fans and actually listen to what we're saying and make better choices and have an actual plan that benefits everything moving forward.
@@DFGHulkOfficial also, Pepper becoming Rescue was ACTUALLY something Matt Fraction suggested for his run & not something the editorial mandated He needed to give Tony a partner & he originally couldn't use Rhodey because he was busy on his own War Machine title, so he decided to make Pepper Tony's new super hero partner & turn her into Rescue
>Betty getting powers in the comics has always been treated as a curse more than anything and usually it only adds to the tragedy of her and Bruce's relationship So, just like Bruce and Hulk then? Totally not redundant.
@@KristoforusBagaskara It doesn't detract from Bruce/Hulk or Betty as characters and doesn't ruin what makes their relationship interesting or unique. Her powers don't work like Bruce's or Jen's. As long as it adds to the dynamic and further builds on their stories and doesn't strip away what works than I don't see the problem. Not every repeat character is an automatic fail it just needs to be executed well and have at least some nuance which both Red She Hulk and Rescue in comics and other media both have unlike others such as Iron Heart or Amadeus Cho's Hulk. Those two were made simply for Diversity and they both failed.
Interesting video. I look forward to the others. You definitely have my subscription. A tiny nitpick, because it's a mispronunciation I hear sometimes and it bugs me, is where you describe Valkyrie as having 'her own winged calvary unit'. Calvary was a location outside of ancient Jerusalem, mentioned in the Bible. Cavalry are soldiers who fight on horseback.
I think Joss did the Widow Hulk Romance because of behind the scenes interference which is why he left for DC. That move ruined his career since they only used him to finish JL even though he wanted to do a Batgirl movie. He didn’t want to direct JL. WB made him do it.
The MCU killed off the best female character.
*Black Widow*
THIS💯💯💯
Frrr i liked her so much, she was awesome.... man 😪
Agreed. First avengers when she finds out about Hawkeye is one of my favorite moments @TeenPerspektiva
True, though I think they missed some potential by not including the original Claire Voyant black widow.
I liked Gamora more
Black widow’s character arc is the biggest missed opportunity of the MCU as a whole
Betty's absence is another reason why i feel like Ruffalo's Hulk should have been a full reboot
@@GT_rising24 I mean, if they recasted Bruce why didn't recasting Betty aswell?
Jon Kent, Sara Lance & Rachel Dawes are the main proof that recasts are allowed if the characters are still needed when the actor leaves
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 iirc Universal Studio's own the rights for a solo hulk film, and if they wanted to include Betty in a MCU movie they would have to include her in a Avengers or any tag team movie like Thor Ragnarok, most people wouldn't want a massive part of a team up movie to go to Betty and if she has too minor of an appearance it's better to not include her
@@sudeeptoshoron4755
1. CW didn't have the rights for Superman(before 2020) yet they still treat him with respect & INCLUDED LOIS LANE
2. if you can't properly use the character THEN USE ANOTHER ONE, I mean, literally none of the MCU Roster were A-Listers before the movies
3. You are LITTERALLY defending the same studio that sued a terminal child, just stop 🤢
Apparently she's in the new Falcon movie
Rhodey at least has military training
To be fair, Rhodey was one of the FEW characters that the CUM got right, (at least before the A.I. Generated Trash that came in 2023)
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 all jokes aside good point
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 And they vegetable him , his relationship with Tony and experience in the military can make him a way better iron man than that annoying teen brat iron man wannabe
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 he was great until secret wars retconned him and said he was just a skrull this whole time.
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 What's CUM? I don't know what movie that is.
This is something the MCU cannot comprehend for some reason; Not every character needs to be funny. Like you said about Black Widow, in the comics she’s basically a female John Wick, in the mcu they gave her way too many quips and jokes that feel out of place.
Lord….not every assassin needs to be called a John Wick type
I wish people would stop using this cuz he’s honestly overrated and got ruined
@@ninjanibba4259 cry more
@@xnet_cascade6257 cope more
@@ninjanibba4259 It's just a reference dude. He is among the most well known assasins. Same as James bond or Ethan hunt for spies.
@@aanchalkawale2555 both are much better written characters than Wick
Fun fact, the Wasp (Janet Van Dyne) was supposed to take Black widow’s spot for the first avengers movie.
She would’ve calm the hulk down in age of Ultron by using the same exact “the sun is going down” trick that Natasha did.
However it wouldn’t been a some type of romantic relationship thing because Jan is with Hank in this version therefore Bruce would still had Betty as his love interest.
Also, Due to Jan’s character of being kind and caring, she would had a trust type of bond with the hulk or even a friendship with the hulk. I wish we had that instead of Hulk/BruceXNatasha.
@@CartoonSociety-in9ci I would NEVER forgive the C.U.M. for hiring THE PERFECT ACTRESS FOR JANET VAN DYNE who was a huge fan of Wasp comics (Hayley Lovitt) just to CGI-ed Pfeiffer's face on her body & delete most of her scenes 🤬
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 Facts! Hayley would’ve killed it as Janet!
I totally agreed with you especially the relationship Wasp and the Hulk had in the Earth's Mightiest Heroes where she was the first one to give the Hulk the benefit of the doubt.
@@jakebrook & Colleen Villard as Jan? PEAK CASTING 💛
I gotta agree that sounds way better
“Generally Russian accent”
I don’t think Scarlett Johansson can pull that off without it sounding fake.
Get Meg from family guy then lol
She already did it in the black widow movie.ua-cam.com/video/iBdMa-SlWlM/v-deo.htmlsi=nLVxX5IUbG61AvaE
Maybe why they killed Natasha and replaced her with.....
Edit: Florence Pugh who can do the Russian accent just fine
@@S_raB ua-cam.com/video/tWfufux4BCw/v-deo.htmlsi=gu2H6Y0qxJyjHb2e does this sounds fake to You?. Yelena is a good character but the legacy that Natasha have on the mcu is bigger then Yelena obviously. No one is better than the original Avengers.
@@TerminatorFire-x8q It was a joke. The long pause is meant to convey how awful the mcu now is. Black Widow should've had a film in 2018 at the latest.
Always thought that Sif should've been more prominent in Thor's story (just knowing about the mythology at the very least), and that was before learning how important she was in the comics. They could have at least made her a better/closer friend to Thor in particular since she was a competent fighter, but nope, she just disappears. Would've been pretty helpful in that Endgame fight, I bet.
In the comics she was the sole reason why Thor became worthy. He picked Mjolnir for the first time to save her after she was kidnapped. He became worthy when he tried to lift that hammer to help someone he loved, not to make himself powerful. Sif then returned the favor when Hela was about to drag Thor's soul to Niffleheim, but Sif pleaded on her knees to take her instead and made Hela, a character whose shtick is to be cold and emotionless, cry when she felt Sif's dispair. The MCU screwed up Thor's iconography worse out of any franchise I can think of.
It wasn't until Black Widow's solo movie that i realized that Marvel failed her. I think her being a side character in all the other films kind of hid the flaws/contrasting elements of her story. I was expecting her movie to be a mission impossible style Spy movie that shows her abilities that we never got in the "main" movies. Instead, it was a generic superhero movie that honestly didn't make much sense for her character. Needless to say, I'm disappointed with the direction they took with her, and she deserved better smh.
Black Widow in Endgame: “The Avengers are the only family I have”
Black Widow in her movie: Has her own family outside the Avengers.
Her movie ruins the fact Black Widow sacrificed herself for the Avengers cause she saw the Avengers as the only family she had in life.
Hawkeye and Cap cried over her death in Endgame thinking she was the only people she saw as family. Now there is not as much weight to it anymore when they retconned it.
@petermj1098 Exactly. I honestly wouldn't mind this whole "spy family" aspect if they just executed it better. One way for that would definitely be for that movie to not be a shoe horned midquel thing that comes after the character died off (duh). It was just such a letdown because, once again, they had a lot of potential for her character and they just didn't really do much with it smh.
*6:48** Armored Adventures defines her perfectly via Hawkeye lecturing her:*
_Tasha, I became a criminal because MY BROTHER got involved with THE WRONG PEOPLE, meanwhile YOU because you actually like this life_
& Then Widow Replies:
_BECAUSE IS THE ONLY LIFE I KNOW_
You are aware you can just edit comments, right? You don’t have to leave a new comment every time you see something you wanna comment on, just put it all in one comment.
Also, why are you caps locking all the time? What is that?
I would love to know how pepper instantly knows how to use an iron man suit to its full capabilities. How does she know how to fly around perfectly, while shooting all these lasers and special attacks at the same time??? Learning to fly like that would take a LONG time.
And dont even get me started on "the valkyrie..."
@@I_am_a_cat_ in both comics & Armored Adventures we saw her making intensly hard training to learn how to use the armor, in the CUM she just happens to knows it & learn it how it works OFF-SCREEN
once again proving:
Comics & Animation > Live Action Movies
She did have training. It's been 5 years since the Blip. Tony built it and taught her how to use it
@@fnh123 OFF-SCREEN & NEVER AKWNOLEDGE=Never Happened & still is a plot-hole
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 So Rhodes is a plot hole as well? We never see him train either.
@@fnh123 YUP, IT IS TOO
For some dumb reason they decided to delete the scenes of Rhodey training in the suit & left them on a Tie-In prequel comic I bet most of people didn't even read
But thank god they left the scene of Tony going to the bathroom in the armor, THAT WAS WAY MORE NECESARY TO THE PLOT
(Nótese el Sarcasmo)
I can forgive the Iron Man 3 Pepper action because the actress was kind of here and there, so they had to write around that.
What I will NEVER forgive is the travesty of Black Widow and especially Captain Marvel
The only thing I didn't like about black widow was task master wnd the cgi at times but I am a doctor who fan so I can look past bad cgi pretty esey
@@Pat12379You've suffered through plenty of that already. 😆
@@Seetiyan yeah that's why I said that the cgi in doctor who bad most the time except the past few years but is 60 years old so most the episodes have horrible chi
To be fair, Pepper and Jane actresses had negotiations issues and that's the main reason why they disappeared for some movies
You can always recast them like the Arrowverse did with Sara/White Canary & THE MCU ISTELF did with Rhodey & Bruce
That doesn't excuse writing rescue or mighty thor into the story
@@timewarpdrive77 that I agree, specially because unlike Comics or Armored Adventures, we never saw the training to becoming a hero
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 Nolan's Batman movies also recast Rachel Dawes.
@@krissjames7276 & Superman & Lois recasted Jon Kent in s3, RE-CAST ARE ALLOWED & NECESARY if the actors leave when the character still is needed
Your take on Black Widow was way better than what we got.
Father Alberti has returned
💯
Praise be!
Amen
Glen Alberti
Is he a priest?
Here’s something I really don’t like about about black widow in the mCU and it’s an element that has blend in other media. I know it’s probably something that came even before, but why is she an avenger by that I mean why is she part of the public eye team been a spy and all sounds like she should not be in the front lines.
I allways forget she's a spy tbh
Her membership as an Avenger has always been back and forth in the comics. Mostly, she is there as an eye on the Avengers. Her motives are always muddy and her true allegiance is unclear as she is a double agent, which means she screws over her allies just as easily as she screws over the Avengers' enemies. All you know is that she mostly works in the best interests of S.H.I.E.L.D.
It all started with the Ultimate comics. She was a member of the Avengers there, and both she and Hawkeye were put in the place of Ant-Man and the Wasp in the MCU because they're as complicated and controversial as an actual wasps nest in the comics.
Originally, Wasp was planned to debut in the first Avengers film with Zooey Deschanel being eyed to play her, but that was their contingency plan in case Scarlett Johannsen's contract didn't get renewed for the film.
She's just in the team because she's hot AF, its that simple.
Probably because she was shown fighting with the rest of the team during the alien invasion in the first Avenger movie.
the whole jane foster thor thing was so out of left field. Thor is a name...they can even say it's a power. but when you pick up mjolnir, you don't become thor. You can wield the power of Thor, but you aren't Thor. Was vision Thor when he picked up mjolnir for a few seconds? Was cap Thor when he wielded Mjolnir? what if he leaves it in an elevator - is the elevator thor now? of course not. it was just a lazy lazy retread to make her a girl boss.
and don't get me started on the bs of kids shooting lazers and lightning out of their teddy bears against paper mache CGI monsters.
Jane Foster the Goddess of Thunder Mighty Thor is an amazing character, a strong and complex woman with dramatic depth and a courageous personality ⚡️🫅🔨💪
That came from the comics. People just dont wanna admit that marvel comics have been trash for 30 years
Tht whole movie was a dumpster fire and they could’ve written her wayyyyyyy better than “let’s bring the thunder”
@@ChaosReaper426 and it was bad in the comics as well. All of these things were seeing in phase 4/5 were done in the last 30 years and haven't done very well. It doesn't give them credibility (free comic book day at my lcs had common back issues for $1 with bag and board. There were BOXES and boxes of these comics people didn't even want for 75 cents)
Boggles my mind how Disney doesn't use the mountain of metrics and data points marvel must have about what characters/stories/issues sell well and resonate with fans and then chooses all of these garbage tier choices to bring to the forefront.
Another female character that has been done dirty by the mcu is Sharon Carter. They would rather give off her character traits to other characters(Nat and Peggy) than giving her the story she deserves. Like the only reason Peggy was even created in the first place was to set up for Sharon’s story. They took so much away from her and reduced her into being a background character. Which is ridiculous considering her role in the Captain America comics.
She wasnt a background character in the falcon and winter soldier series i thinm they made her a villian but she doesn't feel threatening enough i think she may have an important role in thunderbolts but we'll see
Honestly, I would’ve focused more of Thor’s Relationship with Lady Sif than Jane Foster.
Most of my favourite female characters growing up were female but not in this generation
THIS💯💯
80s/90s and 2000s movies knew how to do it.
Lmfao
What are you even saying
What are you talking about?
Cure Sky, Apollyon, & Cure Butterfly & Ameri Azazel are GREAT & the 4 of them are from this generation 😎
Braeden, you're a really refreshing and positive voice to the comic book fandom. I hate the mishandling and treatment of the mcu, the disregard of the books but you tackle it in a respectable and.... eligible way. You don't take it too far and unlike other youtubers it isn't a mask to state their politics. This goes for them and disney, exactly the same just hating on others.
You give true constructive criticism that isn't steeped in hatred. This video to me proves this, you don't just go "mary sue bleegggh" or "woman woooooo" to any woman but actually value the integrity of a good character and their fullest potential. The internet is a hell hole these days so I always look forward to your uploads.
@@raimiallpowerful2020 Yeah, that's something I love about Braeden, instead of the typical:
_mcu woke, infinity saga better, mcu is bad because I say so_
He instead goes by the route:
_They are butechering a far superior material & I'm gonna show you how they're doing it_
I think the problem is obvious….none of their stories was planned at all. I think at best, they planned their stories for one or two movies and then didn’t care about them until they started this paper thin fake “feminism” thing. If you can even call it feminism.
Marvels whole feminism thing feels fake idk how to explain it but in she hulk the way they show that there's a feminist message feels like joke
I think that's what happens when it's pandering for money rather than written with genuine intent. You can feel their type of "feminism" shoe-horned in. It's doesn't feel organic. Especially when it's just having women on screen degrading men it misses the entire point of feminism. Women being capable, adaptive, using their own intelligence etc to earn their success is feminism; lifting women up at the expense of men is not and just plain lazy writing. As well just handing success to them without earning it is also boring, and that happens way too often.
Sooo true
pandering for money than written with intent
EXACTLY THIS
Agreed on Black Widow take.. they kinda reduced her to window dressing, there was allot of potential in developing the character that was neglected.
@@TripleCubedTriune we even Armored Adventures & EMH, FAMILY FRIENDLY CARTOONS, got her right, you know that the C.U.M. didn't even tried it
3:40 Rhody does work mainly because he and stark are genuinely close friends that built up enough trust overtime to use an iron man suit (Rhody was iron man at one point because Tony can be drunk) on top of the fact that he is a marine. There may be a very subtle starship troopers reference. It's very very very subtle.
@@jonathanathor117 also because Rhodey in 616 was not created as Tony's sidekick, he was originally his sucesor(Like Ben Reily & Azrael), but due to his popularity among readers & Iron Man not being a household, he was separated from Iron Man's book & got his own as War Machine
The only adaptation from the MCU I’m ok with are Guardians of the Galaxy. Even if the characters are entirely different from the source material, James Gunn made these unknown D-List characters into household names. The entire trilogy enjoyable and fantastic to watch. Other than characters getting nerfed, I almost have no problems with guardians of the galaxy.
I don’t agree with everything this video has said but I can’t deny that you bring up some good points about taking some of these female heroes seriously and taking their legitimate skill sets into account as well as respect their respective roles in each story
Like yeah, why doesn’t Black Widow do proper espionage spy shit? Why isn’t Sif more relevant than Jane and why does Jane die so soon if they actually give a shit about female representation? WHERE IS ENCHANTRESS ALREADY?
Which parts of this video do you disagree with?
I was hoping for Enchantress myself when I saw Skurge in Thor 3; I always thought that Charlize Theron would have been perfect for Enchantress as opposed to playing Clea at the end of Doctor Strange...
@@vaggos2003 The RESCUE bit, I just don’t really agree with it, like I get his point I just don’t agree personally
@@IvanDubsK7 Hm. Interesting. What's your take on that part?
To be fair on Pepper wasnt there an issue that the actor was having so they had ti write reasons why she wasnt there until they were able to get her back
That’s gonna be a problem with planning out these big franchises as actors don’t want to be tied down as much into one commitment. Paltrow has been in Hollywood for some time now and has other interests going on for a time. Maybe that’s why Marvel is pushing newer actors to be their leads in films: so they can stay in the MCU for as long as they can use them.
Armored Adventures Pepper >> CUM Pepper
@@namecomingsoon9517 that plus do you really want to give good press to a snake oil salesman?
actress?
@@alexanderchristopher6237 These universes of films work better animated for that reason. It's far easier to change the voices.
I wish another director than Waititi would have done Thor 3. Maybe we would have gotten a better Hela. I still liked her, mostly because Blanchett has a lot of charisma in the role. But there was a lot more potential.
I still hoping she still not dead yet 😢 on that last part 😢
Ok this video was actually pretty damn good. I thought it was just gunna be yet another *_”We hate women/ Marvel is ‘woke’ ”_* piece but there were many very good points.
My absolute fave was this take on the Black Widow! That would have been *_incredible!!_* 🤩🔥
Sucks that we’ll never have that 😞
Stark, Pym, T’challa, McCoy, Richards, Banner, Parker, Zola, The Leader and many others. We already have so many other geniuses in the mcu and some of them didn’t even had the chance to showcase it!
3:30 Is actually necesary to mention that Pepper WAS NEVER TONY STARK'S ROMANTIC COUPLE, that's something introduce by adaptations(not just CUM BTW, also by the cartoons & games like Armored Adventures & the Anime Universe for example)
She orginally was suppoused to be just Tony Stark's best friend(aside Rhodey) & closest confident, that's why she becomes Rescue in Matt Fraction's Run, not because she's Tony's Girl, but because she is his most trusted friend & a very capable Fighter in hard moments
Oh, & she debued as Rescue in 2009, WAY BERORE the MCU was the thing it ended up being
@@ArcTrooperRod-269well the MCU was a thing in 2009, so pepper didnt appear way before it was a thing, just 1 year later.
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 the mcu started in 2008
@@marlonclark-ky6ub & Matt Fraction run was written way before that, considering it started on March 2008
EXCELLENT WORK. MSHEU SERIOUSLY A DISASTER
The part of you saying that other's being capable renders the main hero not special is spot on. The same thing applies to Batman nowadays as he has 20 members in the Batfamily and 8 of which mainly operate in Gotham. Batman should be more like the Sith with the rule of two Master and the Apprentice. This time with Batman, Alfred and A Robin at the most so when Dick leaves it gets to Jason, then to Tim then to Damian and that being the LAST OF IT. Once they leave they should go to other places far from him to be their own heroes or anti-heros. WHEN EVERYONE IS SPECIAL NO ONE IS SPECIAL.
“When everyone’s super, no one will be.”
Frrrr @@chasehedges6775
@@TeenPerspektiva💯
@@chasehedges6775 Yep and now it applies to Batman. He might as well retire and let his proteges fight.
i especially hate this because batman is the guy loves to fly solo, a bat family wouldnt exist unless bruce is dead
crazy, an actual criticism for female characters that isn't just screaming weird buzz words and sound effects and laugh tracks the whole video in youtube, who would've thought
Thats because hes actually a talented fan and not a screaming manbaby. His takes are valid criticism which all can respect.
The realest fiction comentator guy is back, notify your friends and family
He’s fantastic
@@chasehedges6775 he is
Armoured Adventures (the animated show) has my favourite Rescue with her training remotely with the stealth suit for like 2 seasons
+ it was hilarious seeing how obsessed she was on becoming a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent 😂
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 that too 🤣🤣
3:54 *AM SORRY BRADEN BUT NO*
Rhodey WAS NEVER written as Tony Stark Sidekick in the 616 OG Comics, he was created as a new generation Iron Man for new readers(just as Ben Reily during that time was Peter replacement), HE BECOMES WAR MACHINE AFTER he lefts Tony side & get his OWN comic book series, due to his popularity(because unlike Ben Reily or Azrael, he was not replacing a Household name)
Oh, & Pepper debuted as RESCUE in 2009, way before the CUM was the thing it ended up being
2009 is basically the 2010s
@@timewarpdrive77 yes, BUT the era Braeden is claiming is the All New All different(which started in 2015 after Secret Wars),Rescue's first appereance happens way before that
Matt Fraction actually tunred her into Rescue because HE NEEDED A SUPER HERO PARTNER for Tony, because as I stated later, Rhodey was busy in his OWN TITLE & his appereances in said run are not as a sidekick rather as a guest star(no diferent to Thor or Bucky's Cap ones)
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 did he specifically mention ANAD? I only heard him say 2010s.
@@timewarpdrive77 while showing a pic of it
¿Are you blind?
@@ArcTrooperRod-269 Care to throw me a timestamp?
It's sad cause I loved Disney & it's 2D Animation growing up in the 90's. Now it's unrecognizable & it's monopolized many things. These people have proven they are only capable of writing narcissistic stories that self insert themselves and their own beliefs into anything they do. Even if they get to make something from a pre-existing beloved story, they cannot help themselves. They seem to be incapable of creating artistic creations that stray away from their own personal perspective, instead of showing they can lean heavily into escapism and pure storytelling.. They have proven time and time again that they are not capable of doing anything even remotely close to that.. (which is weird because that should be one of the most important attributes that a director or a developer or an actor has in order to be successful at their job....?)
How is there no one that will fire these people who openly hate the fans, who hate the consumers were the one's who made their success in the first place..
There's now people like Kathleen Kennedy, She's a Perfect example of this awful trend where people keep getting these positions when they in no way deserve those positions. They are not hired based off talent or skill..? So we are seeing very expensive shows, movies, all so terribly designed, terribly managed, Awful writing, world design, character development, poor aesthetics. So much now feels creatively bankrupt and I really hope we all snap the f*ck out of it and get back to making better things.
The new Acolyte show comes off so cheap & tacky.. It's not just the terrible writing & terrible acting. The whole thing is a complete self centered power trip.. It's horrible set design, horrible world building, horrible camera work. It all makes this show feel so small. Like it's filmed in a single green screen room.. Grasping at awful CGI techniques to try and force any bit of a false reality into this mess of a show.
It's so far from Legitimate Star wars movies that it feels as if this whole thing is a big parody.. A very expensive parody..
Now Compare the "The Acolyte" as If you go back & watch "X-Men the Animated series" It was so well crafted. The story of the struggles of mutants having to deal with humanity was such a universally relatable storyline. Media back then was not afraid to face difficult topics head on. They found really unique ways to abstractly teach people life lessons. They touched on difficult situations & found intelligent ways to convey certain stories. Even when I was all grown up & rewatched it, it really felt like the story is crafted so well & executed at such a high level that anyone is capable of relating to it in someway or another. It's stuff like that, that we are deeply lacking nowadays. So much so that literal kid's cartoons from the 90's told deeper and more mature stories than most media nowadays.
Stuff used to take pride in who can find the most creative ways to convey certain things. Who can give the audience certain feelings without overly explaining it.
It used to not matter what kind of character, creature, species they were. What matters is that they found ways to convey artistic depictions of the Human condition. Creative ways that can connect us on a deeper level.
Sooooo true
I strongly disagree with pepper because 1. This is the first time that Tony Stark made an iron man suit for anyone but his self. 2. Pepper literally lives with Tony Stark to know how the suit works. 3. It only appears in the endgame in the final battle where every superhero is fighting for the universe. This doesn't undermine anything of Tony Stark's goals or accomplishments.
Yes like just because she was background character in some movies doesn't mean she isn't important and her getting a suit makes sense she's literally the wife of ironman
disagree with your disagree. I think the problem isn't that Pepper wouldn't know how it works in general but that we never see her train or learn anything about the suit. The first iron man showed Tony doing a lot of trial and error and making adjustments. He had to struggle and earn his abilities with his brains and ingenuity. Pepper may have learned offscreen but Marvel does that a lot. Just show a quick scene of her figuring part of the suit out or learning from Tony. We get none of that and she just appears on screen and is as good as Tony with the suit. That makes Tony not seem as special as Iron Man. He's more than just the suit but this brings that down a bit. That's how I took the commentary on it
@@BenjaminBilyeu-jm3tc Well kinda because Tony was mainly making mark 2 during this period. While adjusting to hovering instead full on flying. Now once he made mark 2 he just started the flight test and he adjusted to it very quickly. Just like he said "There's a time where you got to run before you can walk". Also compared to all the marks in ironman 1 to her suit should not be in the same category. It also makes Tony better in terms of iron man suit training. Since every disadvantage his previous suits had are pretty much not relevant in her suit making her training less risky and faster than tony. Because since her suit has Tony advanced Ai if she messes up the suit would just assist her. Which Tony made mostly himself from the ground up. This just tells you anyone can be ironman but no one can be Tony Stark because without Tony her suit would never exist. Since he literally built it.
I loved Red she hulk though. I miss her. That stupid Red Harpy thing was one of the few bad things in Immortal Hulk imo.
I completely agree tho! Completely dropping characters then randomly bringing them back is weird. I get Marvel doesn't wanna pay everyone for a 2 second cameo, and the actors are busy but still... They could explain this better
Betty Ross died with The Incredible Hulk. And the thing that came out was the MCU Hulk. I may be wrong but I absolutely believe that The Incredible Hulk won't be scared to fight against Thanos or his Minions in Wakanada
Tony Stark do have other love interest. Bethany Cabe, Joanna Nivena, Indries Moomji, and Kathy Dare. So weird that they made Pepper Potts a love interest out of all of these other people I just mentioned while pepper was just his secretary who never had any romantic interest with stark and funny thing is she is with Happy Hogan in the comics. 🤔
Grab your doritos and apple juice boys, he’s back
And Dr Pepper
He never left??? Its crazy that people think taking a month to make a video means that the uploader has been "gone."
He's been here the entire time dude.
I would like a juice box, though. Please.
@@I_am_a_cat_ You’re so wrong, he’s been lost in the jungles of cambodia in search of his long lost father for the last month while the video sat on his hard disk
I don't like Apple's so I will drink my beer
*Milk no homelander
War Machine is also different enough from Iron Man that he stands on his own. The suit looks different, it has different weapon systems and operations, and it’s most importantly, COOL. All these cheap replacements have negative cool factor 😂
It's amazing how due to ideological reasons, female characters are no longer allowed to "just" be love interests, they're no longer allowed to be Damsels in Distress, female heroes HAVE to be at least as physically powerful and capable in combat as their male counterparts, and they can't ever be anything but exceptional. This might make for good "role models" (not really), but it doesn't make for interesting female characters that bring something unique to the table.
Gamora was pretty interesting. Shame they essentially threw her character away
Cindel(Aubree Miller) and Charal(Sian Philips) from Ewoks The Battle For Endor(1985) are both better well written and likable female characters than any of the Modern 2020 MCU films. Change my mind. They’re also both a good heroine and villainess respectively.
The problem with blackwidow is mostly weird writing like it feels like they didn't have a plan for her but kept going like her whole existence was based on her being a hot sheild agent that is flirty and when they fixed her character (her movie) it was so late cuz she was dead
All Marvel, and most western media, had to do is just copy Japan by simply avoiding toxic identity politics, focusing on good writing and characterization, and nothing else😕
Armored Adventures Pepper Potts is so FREAKING GOOD as a character, despite she starts as a typical comic relieve, I love how as episodes progresses she becomes the brain of the team(while Tony is the lead & Rhodey the heart) & literally the only one who tried to be a real friend to Gene instead of just seeing him as a device to obtain more Makluan Rings
Specially because we see her growing, learning & MOST IMPORTANTLY, TRAINING, ro become Resue & we actually saw him fighting as Rescue alongside the Iron Trinity(Hard to believe this is THE ONLY TIME WE SEE THE IRON TRINITY OUTSIDE IF THE COMICS)
&, is hilarious seeing her so obsessed to become a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent 💜
asking an american to put on an accent is just asking for trouble. look at wanda ffs
I remember a particular season of a franchise that's still going to this day, released no later than 2015. In it, a previously-static female character is basically tasked with saving five other team members, as well as helping to save the franchise's equivalent of the multiverse. Throughout the season's 3.5-hour runtime, she evolves into a member just as capable as the other five, with guidance from both the other five's mentor as well as an antihero. Within the season's 10-day release window, the female character becomes everything Marvel has been trying to deliver on for over 15 years. Strong female characters are more than possible, but only if enough time and care and effort is put in during the production process.
What's the name of the series?
@@Gamegeek-pd7zv Lego Ninjago: Masters of Spinjitzu. Specifically, Season 5, "Possession."
The reason why Pepper was nearly written out was due to Palthrow's up and down relationship with Paramount/Disney. So they weren't sure if they were coming back.
Also, let's not forget how they screwed over Maria Hill
Not for lack of trying. I don't know why they chose to take such a different approach with their female characters, they had taken the same approach with the male characters for years, but it was working! People liked the movies, so fuck it. Why the change? It's not the female characters, it's the way they refuse to give them a proper hero's journey
they've even lost their way with the male characters. Some of them have regressed as characters instead of developing further. Thor and Hulk are 2 good examples. I don't think that Hawkeye developed either and there are other examples. The different directors didn't care and just changed aspects of their character to fit the movie they wanted to make
Why do the leaders at Marvel Studios have all women in their movies act manly, flawless, and have no shortcomings from Endgame to Black Panther 2?
Endgame was the downfall. Should have stopped after Infinity War
@@chasehedges6775true i pretty much havent enjoyed anything after end game. Shit has been on a downwards spyral ever since
Kidding me, it was all down hill with the establishment of Marvel Studios. Captain America, Hulk, Thor, all terrible movies. Iron Man 2 huge drop from Iron Man 1, which was before Disney bought Marvel.
@@GreenGimmick True. They’re decent/mediocre movies at best.
@@GreenGimmick Iron Man1 feels like a different movie. Should have been a standalone.
I really like black widow but dang you have a strong point and it would have been great to see that character
Having a big cast of heroes doing different things from one another would have been great, lean into their strengths and rely on each other for the things they cannot do individually
It’s like they presented that a lot in infinity war and end game but the delivery of that was poorly executed in my opinion
I really hope Marvel doesn’t butcher Storm’s character when they introduce her into the mcu, the fox X-Men films did that enough (except The Last Stand)
I'm so happy you gave some criticism of Black Widow, but I think everyone seems to think that her suicide in Endgame was such a fantastical character moment for her, when it nullified the rule set for the soul stone, while diminishing a payoff for hawkeye.
In her first film (Iron Man 2), she's clearly a cold agent and only on mission. In Avengers, she and Hawkeye clearly has history, and she goes out of her way to help him specifically. Avengers 2, she seems heartbroken about Hawkeye's family life, while also trying to find social company in bruce banner. Winter Soldier is similar to IM2 but she is also more open to Captain America, showing her desire for acceptance. Civil War, she initiates the request to stay friends with Hawkeye in their skirmish. After Infinity War and in Endgame, Hawkeye goes lone wolf because he lost everything (clearly doesn't care about the team or Natasha) while Black Widow is STALKING him for 5 years. When the time experiment initiates, Hawkeye volunteers because he doesn't care about dying since he lost everything. He is even in a spot of grief when he sees his family again but gets pulled back (which, to anyone, is foreshadowing his sacrifice). When they go to the soul stone, Black Widow dies, who was fairly established for the entire MCU to not be the dearest thing to Hawkeye. Clearly, Black Widow wanted acceptance, and felt that most closely with Hawkeye. Had Hawkeye died, giving his last request to save his family, he would have completed his own arc in the same film, while Widow would have lost that which she cherished dearest, hence giving her the soul stone.
TLDR: Black Widow dying made me laugh out loud in the cinema because I thought they just lost the soul stone, since Hawkeye didn't care even fractionally for Widow.
a big chunk of how widow is portrayed in the mcu is how basically janet van dyne should have been portrayed if appearing on the movies. loving, caring, quippy and the heart of the avengers. she's the one who keeps them grounded and not thinking they're gods on earth. she's to the avengers what sue storm is for the FF. i understand people not wanting to have hank pym as a main avenger on the MCU, but janet was obligatory. she needed to be there. either along scott lang, or hank. but she had to be there.
That Girl Boss moment in Endgame was awful. So cringe.... So unearned. They could've banned together for Black Widow. All they would have to do is have Pepper and Wanda ask where Natasha is, only to find out that she died and she's never coming back. They both get even more mad and poof, you have a build up to the Girl Boss moment.
But no. It's just for the sake of P**sy Power!
MCU needs to hire this man as a writer 😭🙏
I'm gonna say it. they did Valkyrie dirty by "Black-washing" her. she is white and blonde
Iron man 3 was definitely trash
For me, I thought they dropped a huge ball on the black widow movie. A movie that people have been waiting and begging for years. A movie that should have come out before her stupid unnecessary death. They had all this time to hire the best writers to give her a very compelling story and a GOOD villain. Taskmaster was reduced to a wet paper version.
Elizabeth Betty Ross is Bruce Banner's Love Not Natasha Romanoff, Black Widow x Hulk shouldn't be a *SHIP* no way
They just cut off a clever character
Like Betty and replace her with
*BLACK WIDOW* so weak from Disney/Marvel Studios' so fucking
Disrespectful why the fuck is this
Allowed to be a thing why Kevin?
The real love interest of Tony Stark from the comics is Bethany Cabe. She's a security expert, and a former romantic partner of Tony.
Pepper and Tony never ever dated in the comics. Pepper is actually with Happy Hogan. Beth helped Tony deal with his alcoholism.
Other than Beth, Whitney Frost would be Tony’s next best love interest.
To me, Beth was Tony's True Love in the comics.... But MCU popularized Pepper Potts.
Bethany Cabe is an interesting character. The Iron Man mythos has a lot of very interesting characters like her that the movies didn't use.
I hope to see Bethany and Madame Masque in
EA Motive's Iron Man game.
Hopefully they could show up in the future MU (Marvel Universe, like how the DCEU is now the DCU to differentiate) after Secret Wars reboots the MCU.
It's not just 2010s, sadly. They're still doing that and it's still just as terrible. (Ahem, Jackpot.)
Mentioned lady Sif and I nearly cried😭💔
I LOVED that character, and they NEVER utilized her!
Not only that, it was a waste of Jamie Alexander and her talents . She’s a good actress in a lot of stuff, especially in the series Blindspot as Jane.
You forgot to mention how Betty Ross is supposed to come back in the new Captain America: Brave New World movie. I don't know if she'll be anything more than a glorified cameo but who knows???
Even though I find slogans such as “M-She-U” and the people that use them often as…kind of exhausting, I at least appreciate your dedication to be more productive in your critiques. It exudes passion for this franchise and desire to want better, rather than stretching to a 10 minute mark to cash in on controversy and views for as revenue.
Most people who use m she u are just sexist wnd don't want wemon in franchises they pretend to like eveb tho they clearly have never watched it
I find the people making the M-SHE-U exhausting. So what if they use a word if they're describing a real phenomena.
Seems kinda dumb to blame the messenger for the message
I found it exhausting that I had to go through this "moar diversity" thing twice and watch it fail both times. Years ago Marvel Comics did the exact same thing Marvel Studios did and got the same results. In fact I think DC Comics (which was going through its amazing _Rebirth_ initiative at the time) was actually able to overtake Marvel as the best selling American comic book company. Actually the mention of DC made me realize I've seen it three times. DC Comics launched their _Infinite Frontier_ initiative not long before phase 4 of the MCU and it also bombed horribly. My favorite was when John Ridely (the screenwriter of 12 Years a Slave) wrote a (thankfully non-canon) story where a de-powered Superman gets raped. That's a story that desperately needed to be told, right?
@@timewarpdrive77 Multiple things can be true at the same time. You can find the current state of the MCU exhausting (as do I) and I can find some of the people who spam the phrase online for engagement base exhausting as well.
With Hela, i hate that Thor didn't even bother to talk her down. He never gave up on Loki despite everything he did. But with Hela, he gives up on her completely because Ragnorak?
Finally I’ve been dying for more insight of yours it’s really helping me out as a superhero writer
Now we gotta wait fifty years for part 2
I always felt cheated when it came to Sif.
I never read the comics, but she always stood out as someone who should be a MAIN character!
She got Fin'd!
(How last Jedi side-charactered him)
💯💯💯
I completely agree, Black Widow was done dirty by making her a front line fighter with the rest of the far physically superior members of the Avengers was downright dumb. And what you described as being a chameleon, that no one but another superspy like Nick Fury, can read, would make for a far more interesting story. What is even more infuriating is that we know the actress - Scarlett Johansson, can DO the role, with the exception of an authentic Russian accent, she has demonstrated in her other movies that she can turn her charisma and charm on and off like a switch. Her performance in "Under the Skin" (2013) gave me chills!
I felt they were trying to make Jane Foster Thor’s Lois lane. (The Godlike, out of this world Hero with a human love interest.)
Ngl all of the women in the thumbnail are fine ash
Though these are movies and you have to suspend your disbelief. The bottom line is you can see a guy
throwing another guy around but it's tough to see a gal throwing a man around. 😂
Thanks for the videos Braeden! I appreciate you.
Mcu should have taken notes from Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes that show is marvels MASTERPIECE
Nice! Good to see you back.
It’s great content
Here’s what I would’ve done.
I would’ve not bring Jane Foster in the MCU and just have Lady Sif as Thor’s Love Interest in the MCU instead.
It's basically the *girl boss* problem.
Iron Man 1: Origin Story
Iron Man 2: Demon in a Bottle
Iron Man 3: Rise of the Ten Rings
Iron man 4: Armor Wars
What a trilogy it could’ve been
@@OneOfTheBoys23 that's LITTERALLY Armored Adventures sinopsis(tho they changed his alcholism for workoholism, but the message ended up being the same) 😎
Don't you mean quadrilogy?
@@indiajohnson the correct term is *TETRALOGY*
There's no Iron Man 4. Remember, Tony Stark is dead. Rest in peace Iron Man.
@@johnsantos507 he is sugesting A DIFFERENT saga different from the C.U.M.
Learn how to read
Betty Ross got two decent movies before disappearing. And yes, im talking about Ang Lees Hulk. Jennifer Connelly was a much more convincing Betty Ross. Sam Elliot was the best General Ross
I pretty much agree with most of the points made, my only disagreements are the Red She Hulk and Rescue takes. I personally don't have a problem with Pepper getting her own suit however I do think it should've been set up better and most of that could've been done well in Ironman 3 if not for how that movie was ultimately handled. And as for Betty well in the comics her being Red She Hulk doesn't really diminish Hulk's presence or importance. Unlike Bruce Betty doesn't have multiple personalities and unlike Jennifer Walters Betty can't control herself as Red She Hulk, she becomes overwhelmed with all her negative traits bubbling up to the surface and in a lot of ways this adds to the tragedy of their relationship because Betty goes from loving Bruce and wanting to help him to Red She Hulk hating him and wanting to hurt him and it got soo destructive to the point that she even begs Bruce to let her die when she's fatally wounded and the only way for her to survive is to change back but she doesn't want to because of how much damage she causes. Betty getting powers in the comics has always been treated as a curse more than anything and usually it only adds to the tragedy of her and Bruce's relationship like when she was Harpy and was used as a weapon by one of Hulk's enemies and in a way put her in a worse situation than most Damsels in distress because she couldn't even cry for help. Now me personally I don't like how the MCU's handled really any of it's characters long term and I do agree with you on what they should've done and should do going forward. I hope they don't ruin Betty or Red She Hulk's character in the upcoming 4th Captain America Movie( Although she, General Ross and The Leader should all be brought back in a Hulk Movie/Show not a Capt. Movie) But something tells me that Disney still haven't learned their lesson and would still rather ruin these characters further for the sake of their current way of thinking at the expense of good entertainment and audience retention. Marvel needs a genuine win a step in the right direction and Disney needs to stop hiring the wrong people for the job and stop fighting with the fans and actually listen to what we're saying and make better choices and have an actual plan that benefits everything moving forward.
@@DFGHulkOfficial also, Pepper becoming Rescue was ACTUALLY something Matt Fraction suggested for his run & not something the editorial mandated
He needed to give Tony a partner & he originally couldn't use Rhodey because he was busy on his own War Machine title, so he decided to make Pepper Tony's new super hero partner & turn her into Rescue
>Betty getting powers in the comics has always been treated as a curse more than anything and usually it only adds to the tragedy of her and Bruce's relationship
So, just like Bruce and Hulk then? Totally not redundant.
@@KristoforusBagaskara ¿Why is redundant? Is LITTERALLY reafirmng how much damage Bruce indirectly or directly causes to their loved ones
@@KristoforusBagaskara It doesn't detract from Bruce/Hulk or Betty as characters and doesn't ruin what makes their relationship interesting or unique. Her powers don't work like Bruce's or Jen's. As long as it adds to the dynamic and further builds on their stories and doesn't strip away what works than I don't see the problem. Not every repeat character is an automatic fail it just needs to be executed well and have at least some nuance which both Red She Hulk and Rescue in comics and other media both have unlike others such as Iron Heart or Amadeus Cho's Hulk. Those two were made simply for Diversity and they both failed.
Welcome back man, love your stuff
Women never struggle and don't have to learn anything is the biggest problem.
Maybe Black Widow should have been paired with Captain America but they had the plan to repair him with Peggy by Time Travel eventually.
Damn bro you blew my mind about the pepper Potts one but you right they need to step up
I love how basically no one in the fandom dislikes Kate bishop. She is either okay or well liked
That's because her character is likeable and does look to Clint for Guidance and also she is played by my gorgeous Wife Hailee Steinfeld.😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Wait for the other parts. This is just the first one.
Paltrow may not have always been available for MCU appearances
Female Thor should be called "Thora". It's a name in Norway. Real life names: Thora Hird, Thora Birch.
The biggest problem is that women are shown to be strong with masculinity. It's the same problem with Western society.
Interesting video. I look forward to the others. You definitely have my subscription.
A tiny nitpick, because it's a mispronunciation I hear sometimes and it bugs me, is where you describe Valkyrie as having 'her own winged calvary unit'.
Calvary was a location outside of ancient Jerusalem, mentioned in the Bible.
Cavalry are soldiers who fight on horseback.
He’s back 🙏🏾
Using nerdrotic as an example is an ouch
The MCU must Not Mary-sue the female characters and Dumb or Demonized the Males characters.
EXACTLY💯💯💯
I think Joss did the Widow Hulk Romance because of behind the scenes interference which is why he left for DC. That move ruined his career since they only used him to finish JL even though he wanted to do a Batgirl movie. He didn’t want to direct JL. WB made him do it.
But he defended it online.
Ok, from now on, I'm gonna need you to sit in on every decision Marvel has on all their future movies👍🏽🙏🏽👍🏽