I’m excited for the in depth video on the advanced balls. I’ve seen a used core ball once but never played with it. Also I’ve yet to see the Selkirk ball. Would love to see how they compare to the x-40 or dura
Maybe do a piece on court surfaces with different types of balls...? Concrete indoors, concrete outdoors, wood and vinyl indoors, and the new SportCourt plastic surfaces.
Didn't see the "Cheetah" balls reviewed. Been playing them outdoors for awhile now. They are my go to ball now. They are one piece, stay round, don't crack and play fast. Great price too.
Would like to try the SLK competition balls. We have a wide range of players in our group. My son is 16 and our oldest is 83 year old female. This is an awesome game anyone can play!
My club tried SLK Hybrid for indoor use. Everyone enjoyed playing with them. However, in ONE WEEK 8 broke at the seam. Sticking with the Onix indoor. They last forever.
Great feedback on durability. Yeah that is the problem with 2 halves welded together is that they can crack along the seam :( and glad that the Onix has mastered it. Which Onix? Fuse or Pure?
My favorite indoor balls are the Penn 26s in Lava Red. They have a nice, low bounce, and stand out well, including for one of our players that's colorblind.
These balls are fabulous for wooden floors. They are highly visible, a much truer bounce than the way-too-bouncy Onix indoor ball, and don’t skid on the floor like the Onix can. All of these qualities allow for longer rallies.
@@nursenina8 agree with everything you said. The one downside is durability. If you have someone that really smashes the ball, you might go through one every 10 games or so. But I've also had balls that last longer.
Wow- I started playing this summer and there’s so much to learn. I never even considered much about the balls…until now!! I would like to try one of the intermediate/hybrid brands. **and, FYI- you guys should find a proofreader for your onscreen titles & labels. They are super helpful! But there are a couple of errors: competive for competitive and symetic for symmetric. Thanks for the good info!
Shea, Great presentation and content. Will there be an issue concerning the grit on the Warrior paddle? Keep up the great info and I will definitely be an advocate of your show. Art Worley Atlanta
Thanks guys! What interests me the most would be what ball allows the most spin. I would think that it would be a ball that has a rougher surface. And that would make me think that the longer a ball has been in play, the rougher and “spinnier” it would be. Is this right? Please address this topic soon. Thanks!
Interesting to know about the different type of balls ..... Played about a year plus with seniors as we are still picking up and enjoying the game .... Will be good to try the intermediate ball to improve our game .............. hehehe
Great video with explanations! I would love to try the competitive range, having used mostly intermediate range, it would be interesting to try the new range.
Thanks for the breakdown! I’m working with owners who have a volleyball facility and the flooring is a sport court, the problem we are having is finding a ball that has enough bounce on this type of surface. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I'd love to try the Core or Dura Fast 40! Thanks for the video! Really interesting and waiting for a deeper dive. Kind of a nerd about this stuff. Really only played with Onix and Franklin X-40.
All of my pickleball buddies are totally confused. It seems that every week some coach is telling us the “best ball.” This video was very helpful. And I think it’s important that we all use one consistent ball during a game rather than mixing it up. I currently like the Franklin x40, but also the Onyx and the Dura. We play outside all winter. I also like the magenta balls because we can see them better (old eyes!)
Nice, concise video. Would be interested in taking this selection of balls to clinics when I teach. I play with Franklin X and Dura but the opportunity to share all the different "feels" with students would be a great learning experience for all.
I just started playing PB about 6 mos ago. I have an extensive tennis background. We play outdoors only. I prefer the Onix balls with my Selkirk Epic paddle. My hubby uses the Engage Elite Pro Maverick paddle and has not stated a preference as to the balls. In my opinion, the Onix balls bounce higher than the Franklin X balls. I am a 50+ with knee trouble along with my hubby. The last thing we need is to tax our knees with a lower bouncing ball. I would like to try the new Wilson balls when they come out. I have used many Wilson products over the years with tennis and have had good results with them. I hope Wilson can produce a good Pickle ball that is durable and can hold up just like their tennis balls do.
One of the categories I would have loved to see was spin test out of the package! I've bought 36 of the Franklin-40 to date of those 40, 8 were out of round on delivery! We do a spin toss before every match and the out of round wobble of the spin is very noticeable on those 8.
I've used most of the balls on the list in the description above, and a few more. There are 3 balls that I haven't tried yet and am curious about: SLK Competition, Core and Wilson Try 32 Pro. It looks like the SLK and Core are rotationally molded and the Wilson is injection.
Would you add recommendations which balls perform best when playing in temp hovering 50 degrees? Broken down similarly to what you described in this video? Thanks.
My neighborhood started playing this summer. Most bought Onix paddles and therefore swear by Onix balls. I'd really like to try the Selkirk balls. We have tried the F-40 and DuraFast obviously, but they think those are the offical tournaments balls only. I'd like to show them the differences in play and not just say they are for tourneys.
love it! and we are going to do a deep dive into those competition balls so you will be equipped with all the details of why they are so popular and ideal for pro play.
I just started PB about 6 mos ago. I have a tennis background. I prefer the Onix balls with my Selkirk paddle. My hubby uses the Engage Elite Pro Maverick paddle and has not stated a preference. The Onix balls bounce higher than the Franklin X balls. I am a 50+ with knee trouble same with my hubby. The last thing we need is to tax our knees with a lower bouncing ball. I would like to try the new Wilson balls when they come out. I have used many Wilson products ove the years with tennis and have had good results with them. I hope they can do the same with PB.
Didn't know about Wilson's ball. Everyone we play with uses Franklin X-40. Would be interesting to try the Dura-40 or the intermediate balls just to see how game play changes.
Good video...I love the Dura40 but it breaks too often for my pocketbook...and the Franklin40 goes out of round way too soon which is worse cause many keep using a ball that isn't broken. Would love to try the Core.
New to the sport … anxious to immerse myself into learning this game. All of my play will be indoor for the next few months but once spring comes around, would be really interested in trying the hybrid ball.
Thank you for sharing this video! I didn't know there were different sizes, weights and number of holes in pickleball balls! If possible, I would love to try the DuraFast 40, the Core, or the Selkirk Competition balls. If those are not possible, any of the intermediate or even the beginner ball would do. Without knowing, I've been teaching and playing with he Franklin 40 balls since I learned to play close to 10 years ago. Thank you for all you do! If possible
This is great. I’m excited to hear your results! Normally I use the Franklin X-40 and the Dura Fast 40. I want to try a ball that you feel performs the same as either of those but will last longer. Here in Utah we normally break 2-4 Duras every few hours. Even the Franklins break due to temperature, so we are always looking to find a different/better option.
Franklin X-40s will crack pre-maturely in cooler temperatures. At least that's from my experience. In warmer conditions, both Franklins and Duras lose their shape after extensive play. The wobbly effect. Aside from temperature issues, the habit of spiking the ball with paddle on the ground repetitively also contributes to cracking. It's a habit from those with a tennis backgrounds.
I'd like to try the Franklin x-26 because I'll be playing indoors for the first time this winter. I'm interested in a pickleball made with recycled or biodegradable materials.
CORE pickleballs are great in cooler weather but will turn to mush in warmer temperatures. Franklin X-40s and Onix Duras will crack in cooler temperatures--50 degrees Fahrenheit.
I will say this with the selkirk balls, they tend to lose their shape pretty aggressively. they last cause they are hard, but when the shape goes, it really really goes
Being new to Pickelball I was given SLK Hybrid balls when I bought my paddles and had no idea that there were differences with PB balls. I recently discovered it through playing with someone who had X40s and noticed the HUGE differences, I was overshooting my serves and drives, wow did Iearn that quick, I lost two games as I could not adjust on the fly vs an opponent who was more experienced. Having said this, I would love to try the Official PB balls = Wilson i mean Franklin X40s - corrected
I haven't tried the Core and have heard mixed reviews in the SLK competition (warp, get soft, etc). I've also heard good things about the OSO balls but haven't tried them either. Would love to try the OSO or Core balls if you have a few lying around. I think ultimately all competitive players are looking for a Dura like hardness with more consistency in bounce that lasts longer at a cheaper price. If someone invents that (and has the marketing budget) they could corner the market.
@@thepickleballmafia1165 What's crazy is the first time I saw this I was not sure if it was in my head or the spin they put on the ball. I am glad it turned out to be the ball. Hopefully there will be more of a standard for balls. Until then we will need to see what works best with our groups and see if they expand to be the standard. Thanks again for the great videos.
I’m excited for the in depth video on the advanced balls. I’ve seen a used core ball once but never played with it. Also I’ve yet to see the Selkirk ball. Would love to see how they compare to the x-40 or dura
perfect! this is exactly what we will be looking at in our next video I hope its just not boring because we totally neirded out on the details.
Maybe do a piece on court surfaces with different types of balls...? Concrete indoors, concrete outdoors, wood and vinyl indoors, and the new SportCourt plastic surfaces.
I’m going to start using indoor balls so I can get a higher and slower paced rally!
Lol Jokes!!!
Great info
And video! Good job!
The wife and I love using intermediate balls when playing when friends are over for a fun high rally games!
simple and easy to understand the explanation..... played pickleball for almost a year and can try the advance balls.....
Didn't see the "Cheetah" balls reviewed. Been playing them outdoors for awhile now. They are my go to ball now. They are one piece, stay round, don't crack and play fast. Great price too.
And they are recyclable! Yea! Cheetah pickleballs are LDPE #4.
I want to try the Core competition ball
Would like to try the SLK competition balls. We have a wide range of players in our group. My son is 16 and our oldest is 83 year old female. This is an awesome game anyone can play!
Our group tried the SLK competition. Not everyone liked it but it was fun! Fast and curving it has spunk.
I agree with @Rv Clayton the SLK Comp balls had a lot of pop and are very fast pace.
Beginner here. This is great info. I’ll have to try several balls to see what works great for my style.
My club tried SLK Hybrid for indoor use. Everyone enjoyed playing with them. However, in ONE WEEK 8 broke at the seam. Sticking with the Onix indoor. They last forever.
Great feedback on durability. Yeah that is the problem with 2 halves welded together is that they can crack along the seam :( and glad that the Onix has mastered it. Which Onix? Fuse or Pure?
I want to try the durafast... I had used the onix intermidiate but when windy floats
Dura-40s crack too easily in the winter when it is cold. Found the Franklins as the best compromise.
Would like to try the Franklin X-40. Thanks
My favorite indoor balls are the Penn 26s in Lava Red. They have a nice, low bounce, and stand out well, including for one of our players that's colorblind.
Awesome we need to get a set of those and try them out! I would love to do a deep dive on each category and find our favorites for each!
These balls are fabulous for wooden floors. They are highly visible, a much truer bounce than the way-too-bouncy Onix indoor ball, and don’t skid on the floor like the Onix can. All of these qualities allow for longer rallies.
@@nursenina8 agree with everything you said. The one downside is durability. If you have someone that really smashes the ball, you might go through one every 10 games or so. But I've also had balls that last longer.
Thanks - great info / as beginner/ intermediate was playing some with an advanced ball- maybe back up to the middle road like Onix
Another great video on pickleball, would like to try the hybrid balls as we are struggling on pro hard balls.
Killer video again. Keep crushing it!
My vote goes to CORE! 💚
Wow- I started playing this summer and there’s so much to learn. I never even considered much about the balls…until now!! I would like to try one of the intermediate/hybrid brands. **and, FYI- you guys should find a proofreader for your onscreen titles & labels. They are super helpful! But there are a couple of errors: competive for competitive and symetic for symmetric. Thanks for the good info!
Thanks for your feedback!!
This is on me I was rushing to get it out. Sry will do better :)
Shea,
Great presentation and content. Will there be an issue concerning the grit on the Warrior paddle? Keep up the great info and I will definitely be an advocate of your show.
Art Worley Atlanta
Would love some advanced balls!! Great video! 👍🏻😎
Cool video guys! Looks like you really put a lot of time and energy into your pickleball video! Beginner! Thanks!
Love to give Dura a try! Thanks, great video, looking forward to the deep dive
Loved making this and seeing how different the balls felt! Definitely know which one is my fave!
Franklin ball looks best!
I would like to try the Selkirk balls
Thanks guys! What interests me the most would be what ball allows the most spin. I would think that it would be a ball that has a rougher surface. And that would make me think that the longer a ball has been in play, the rougher and “spinnier” it would be. Is this right? Please address this topic soon. Thanks!
Interesting to know about the different type of balls ..... Played about a year plus with seniors as we are still picking up and enjoying the game .... Will be good to try the intermediate ball to improve our game .............. hehehe
Great video, have tried the Core ball and love it, would like to try the SLK ball... Thanks..
I’d like to try the SLK Competition ball.
Great video again! The dura-40 looks like a fun one to try for my buddies and I, we use the intermediate style now.
Great video! I would like to thy the SLK Competition balls.
Definitely advanced outdoor balls.love to try top balls in industry. Can't wait for the Wilson review
I would love to use the Dura indoors for that higher and slow paced rally 😂 please add OSO balls! I actually love them and great comparison to Duras
Thank you for doing this research! I usually use the intermediate balls.
I’d love to get out the SLK competition. I’ve heard a lot about Selkirk’s commitment to quality and developing new equipment.
How about the Nexxed balls?
I’d like to try. Selkirk competition!
Outdoor player using the Franklin X-40 but would love to try a hybrid ball to get to longer rally games. 🤙😎
I use the Franklin X-40, but I would like to try any of the other ones. Thanks 👍✌️☮️
Great video with explanations! I would love to try the competitive range, having used mostly intermediate range, it would be interesting to try the new range.
Entered!
Looking to Upgrade and would Luv to try the Competitive line since I’ve been playing the Franklins.
I would love to try the Wilson outdoors ball here in the PNW to see how it hold up in colder temperatures
Thanks for the breakdown! I’m working with owners who have a volleyball facility and the flooring is a sport court, the problem we are having is finding a ball that has enough bounce on this type of surface. Any insight would be greatly appreciated.
I'd love to try the Core or Dura Fast 40! Thanks for the video! Really interesting and waiting for a deeper dive. Kind of a nerd about this stuff.
Really only played with Onix and Franklin X-40.
Great Info. I’ve always wondered about the differences I’d love to try the CORE balls :)
Try the "Cheteahs"
All of my pickleball buddies are totally confused. It seems that every week some coach is telling us the “best ball.” This video was very helpful. And I think it’s important that we all use one consistent ball during a game rather than mixing it up. I currently like the Franklin x40, but also the Onyx and the Dura. We play outside all winter. I also like the magenta balls because we can see them better (old eyes!)
I'd like to try the Penn for our upcoming indoor league play.
_Jason you are a winner send your address to jon@__toptierpickleball.com__ and I will send out your Penn 40 Ball!_
I love the Franklin X-40s. I was using the Onix balls but once I tried the Franklins I never went back.
I would like to try the CORE ball.
"cheetahs"
I would like to try the intermediate SLK hybrid, thanks.
I like the dura fast 40, most of the folks I play are using the x40 Franklin,
Only used Dura and Core. Really want to try the Franklin!
I would like to try out the Onix dura fast 40 because I’ve really never used it and have only used the Franklin x40
I usually use Franklin X-40 or DuraFast-40 balls. I would really like to try either the CORE or SLK Competition balls.
Subscriber here - already Liked this one. Thanks for entering me in the contest - I would love to try that competition Selkirk ball.
I’d really like to try the SLK competition, as well as the New Wilson Tru. Thanks guys!
Phoenixascension1 you are a winner send your address to jon@toptierpickleball.com and I will send out your Wilson Ball!
Nice, concise video. Would be interested in taking this selection of balls to clinics when I teach. I play with Franklin X and Dura but the opportunity to share all the different "feels" with students would be a great learning experience for all.
Have been using Franklin X40 almost exclusively but want to try out the core - will do so as soon as my supply of X40 is gone.
Try the "Chetahs"
Would love to try the Gamma 40 on our gym floor.
I just started playing PB about 6 mos ago. I have an extensive tennis background. We play outdoors only. I prefer the Onix balls with my Selkirk Epic paddle. My hubby uses the Engage Elite Pro Maverick paddle and has not stated a preference as to the balls. In my opinion, the Onix balls bounce higher than the Franklin X balls. I am a 50+ with knee trouble along with my hubby. The last thing we need is to tax our knees with a lower bouncing ball. I would like to try the new Wilson balls when they come out. I have used many Wilson products over the years with tennis and have had good results with them. I hope Wilson can produce a good Pickle ball that is durable and can hold up just like their tennis balls do.
Would love to try the Dura Fast 40. Great info, Thanks!
And November 20th is my 68th birthday!
I’d like to try the Core. I’ve heard a lot about it but I usually play with Dura or Franklin
One of the categories I would have loved to see was spin test out of the package! I've bought 36 of the Franklin-40 to date of those 40, 8 were out of round on delivery! We do a spin toss before every match and the out of round wobble of the spin is very noticeable on those 8.
Great point! yea the quality and consistency is seriously lacking in some of these balls. i think the Wilson Tru 32 fixes this problem.
@@thepickleballmafia1165 I'll just pick some up and give them a try!
I've used most of the balls on the list in the description above, and a few more. There are 3 balls that I haven't tried yet and am curious about: SLK Competition, Core and Wilson Try 32 Pro. It looks like the SLK and Core are rotationally molded and the Wilson is injection.
Doug you know your stuff! our next video will do a deep dive into these 3 balls. i think you will like all three but the most novel is the Tru 32!
Would you add recommendations which balls perform best when playing in temp hovering 50 degrees? Broken down similarly to what you described in this video? Thanks.
I would love to try the Wilson ball
My neighborhood started playing this summer. Most bought Onix paddles and therefore swear by Onix balls. I'd really like to try the Selkirk balls. We have tried the F-40 and DuraFast obviously, but they think those are the offical tournaments balls only. I'd like to show them the differences in play and not just say they are for tourneys.
love it! and we are going to do a deep dive into those competition balls so you will be equipped with all the details of why they are so popular and ideal for pro play.
I just started PB about 6 mos ago. I have a tennis background. I prefer the Onix balls with my Selkirk paddle. My hubby uses the Engage Elite Pro Maverick paddle and has not stated a preference. The Onix balls bounce higher than the Franklin X balls. I am a 50+ with knee trouble same with my hubby. The last thing we need is to tax our knees with a lower bouncing ball. I would like to try the new Wilson balls when they come out. I have used many Wilson products ove the years with tennis and have had good results with them. I hope they can do the same with PB.
I’d like to try Dura 40 or the SLK. Usually we use gamma or Franklin but have tried one of the Wilson and it feels very different
Been using the Franklin with our Mixed skill open play group. I would love to try the hybrid ball!
I want to try the SLK competition.
Didn't know about Wilson's ball. Everyone we play with uses Franklin X-40. Would be interesting to try the Dura-40 or the intermediate balls just to see how game play changes.
I would like to try the Franklin competitive ball, the X-40
Would like to try the SLK balls!
I really like the Franklin 40, but would like to try the SLK. How do they do outdoor in colder temperatures?
I’d like to try the SLK competition ball or the new Wilson.
Good video...I love the Dura40 but it breaks too often for my pocketbook...and the Franklin40 goes out of round way too soon which is worse cause many keep using a ball that isn't broken. Would love to try the Core.
I wanna try the Wilsons!!!
Would like to try a medium outdoor ball
New to the sport … anxious to immerse myself into learning this game. All of my play will be indoor for the next few months but once spring comes around, would be really interested in trying the hybrid ball.
Its Kyle you are a winner send your address to jon@toptierpickleball.com and I will send out your Hybrid Ball!
I’ve been playing with the Onix outdoor ball but would like to try the Franklin x40
Thank you for sharing this video! I didn't know there were different sizes, weights and number of holes in pickleball balls! If possible, I would love to try the DuraFast 40, the Core, or the Selkirk Competition balls. If those are not possible, any of the intermediate or even the beginner ball would do. Without knowing, I've been teaching and playing with he Franklin 40 balls since I learned to play close to 10 years ago.
Thank you for all you do!
If possible
This is great. I’m excited to hear your results! Normally I use the Franklin X-40 and the Dura Fast 40. I want to try a ball that you feel performs the same as either of those but will last longer. Here in Utah we normally break 2-4 Duras every few hours. Even the Franklins break due to temperature, so we are always looking to find a different/better option.
Franklin X-40s will crack pre-maturely in cooler temperatures. At least that's from my experience. In warmer conditions, both Franklins and Duras lose their shape after extensive play. The wobbly effect. Aside from temperature issues, the habit of spiking the ball with paddle on the ground repetitively also contributes to cracking. It's a habit from those with a tennis backgrounds.
@@chrislin2774 can suggest the one with high bounce?
I'd like to try the Franklin x-26 because I'll be playing indoors for the first time this winter. I'm interested in a pickleball made with recycled or biodegradable materials.
I would like to try the new Selkirk SLK ball. I love the CORE ball and was happy to find it, Im hoping the slk plays well too for another good option.
I would love some SLK Competiton or Durafast!
I'm very interested in trying the new Wilson Try 32 balls
Would really like to try the core ball, a little bit pricey for our gang.
Onix, I like the bounce and soft feel.
I’ve played with almost all of these balls except the Core. I’d like to try it to see if it out performs my current favorite-the SLK Competition.
_Dan you are a winner send your address to jon@__toptierpickleball.com__ and I will send out your CORE Ball!_
@@thepickleballmafia1165 Wow. Thats Awesome! Thanks. Loving the channel and the content. Keep up the great work guys!.
SLK Competitive
I would definitely like to try the core pickleballs, I've heard so much about them but never wanted to put the money in for them
CORE pickleballs are great in cooler weather but will turn to mush in warmer temperatures. Franklin X-40s and Onix Duras will crack in cooler temperatures--50 degrees Fahrenheit.
Haven’t tried the Selkirk or Core ball and would like to compare to the x40 & Dura.
I will say this with the selkirk balls, they tend to lose their shape pretty aggressively. they last cause they are hard, but when the shape goes, it really really goes
Being new to Pickelball I was given SLK Hybrid balls when I bought my paddles and had no idea that there were differences with PB balls. I recently discovered it through playing with someone who had X40s and noticed the HUGE differences, I was overshooting my serves and drives, wow did Iearn that quick, I lost two games as I could not adjust on the fly vs an opponent who was more experienced. Having said this, I would love to try the Official PB balls = Wilson i mean Franklin X40s - corrected
Do you mean Franklin?
@@douglasmurdoch7247 ahh yes thank you Franklin I had my basketball mind there for a minute :)
Do any of these balls recycle?
I would be interested in trying the Selkirk Competition balls.
I haven't tried the Core and have heard mixed reviews in the SLK competition (warp, get soft, etc). I've also heard good things about the OSO balls but haven't tried them either. Would love to try the OSO or Core balls if you have a few lying around. I think ultimately all competitive players are looking for a Dura like hardness with more consistency in bounce that lasts longer at a cheaper price. If someone invents that (and has the marketing budget) they could corner the market.
I would really like to try either the Core or SLK Competition. If these last longer and do not wobble after play like the X40's that would be huge!
A lot of people are talking about the wobble. Its crazy that the top balls have this!
@@thepickleballmafia1165 What's crazy is the first time I saw this I was not sure if it was in my head or the spin they put on the ball. I am glad it turned out to be the ball. Hopefully there will be more of a standard for balls. Until then we will need to see what works best with our groups and see if they expand to be the standard. Thanks again for the great videos.
Would like to try core.