the THREE types of Screams (and how to practice them)
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2024
- An incredibly simple guide to understanding and internalizing the three main sensations necessary to create any kind of scream. Free Voice Lessons: chrisliepe.com/free-your-voice/
#vocalcoach #scream #distortion #metal #vocalist #analysis
A short playlist that includes just some of the screaming videos I've made with some good friends:
• How To Scream
@Periphery @TheWillRamos @TheCharismaticVoice @laurenbabic @veilofmaya852@Sleep-Token @coreytaylorrock
Get the foundation you need to successfully and safely scream. Join my free course! chrisliepe.com/free-your-voice/
Lauren is my hero
hey brother I need help with my vocals can you give me a little intel on how vocal lessons will go if I sign up for vocal lesson is it one on one ?
If you head over to chrisliepe.com there's a section that fully details how I do one-on-one lessons :) Looking forward to working with you!
My mom came in thinking I was dying while practicing to this video
I can totally relate with this 😂
Gotta say, it's absolutely mental how you've picked this stuff up so fast.
It's absolutely metal!
It's really not that hard once you understand the techniques.
@@jhamilton1007yeah and he had will Ramos literally in the room with him lol
Tbf, it’s been years! He’s put the work in
He already had a great foundation. His breathing technique and voice control translate to screaming
That bit about “listen to your body” is probably the most overlooked and underrated piece of advice when learning these types of vocal styles. You have to recognize when to *stop* if your voice is trying to tell you it is tired or strained. Don’t be too proud, stubborn or over excited to step away, take a break and let your voice rest as you navigate these sensations. It could be the difference between ‘cracking the code’ or cracking your folds.
2:00 this just comes to show that everything chris told us about screaming on this channel was true, our guy now is a beast!
This is so funny to listen to while working, and not looking at the video for context
Hey brother, I’ve been practicing and doing metal vocals for over 10 years now and I gotta say you really nailed this video! The explanation and ways of going about this style of performing is absolutely perfect! Even the pro’s could learn a thing or two from these practices! Great work man
Gotta say, you break this down so well! Probably the best free lesson I’ve seen on UA-cam!
That Corey scream still makes my skin crawl… I love it❤
He's good at what he does but even Corey himself would be glad to tell you that metal icons like the Metal God Rob Halford screamed too and his screams were different than all of these and every bit as badass if not more. There's a reason Corey had to tune down one and a half steps to cover Rainbow In The Dark. The 80s were the most dominant decade metal ever had and ever will have.
@@russellspear6188did he ever actually say nothing worth listening to came out then or are you just projecting that opinion on him because he hasn't made any videos specifically about them? Did you ever think maybe he talks about the bands he likes more because he's more familiar with them? If someone has a movie channel and doesn't make videos about silent films are you going to accuse them of saying nothing good came out of that era?
@@koolaids-man8668 Look at the title: "The THREE Types Of Screams." It's not titled Three Types I Like but "The THREE types Of Screams."
The word "The" implies these are the only types of screams worth mentioning. No responsible rock vocal coach would ever say that nothing worth listening came out of the 70s or 80s. To ask me if Chris said nothing worth listening to came out of the 70s or 80s is merely a melodramatic attempt at trying to get an emotionally driven response out of me.
Well, too bad. You won't get that from me.
Fact is, you have no inkling as to how much I support Chris in his career as an educator. He doesn't only cover the people he personally likes; he's a professional vocal coach. That you somehow seem to think he has time to cover a band like Electric Call Boy, who are sort of like The Village People with distortion, but that he wouldn't be familiar with metal pioneers such as Iron Maiden or Judas Priest is a complete non-starter.
Chris's job requires him to be familiar with the biggest names of the metal world, even if they happen to come from the 80s, which just happens to be metal's most successful era ever. The 80s produced more gold and platinum metal albums than any other decade ever has. Hard rock and metal got so big in the 80s that it got played in regular rotation on MTV.
I wrote what I did because as good as Chris' channel is, as a primarily hard rock and heavy metal channel, to say there are three types of screams...there's a heavy implication there that somehow the screams of metal icons such as Halford, Tate and Dickinson don't make the grade, come on now!
This forum is meant to be used to tell Chris what we like...and what we don't. It's not just for blind praise because there's no value to blind praise. There's another term for blind praise, but I won't use it here because I'm too polite. I believe in giving praise where praise is due and when something could have been better, I let that be known too. It's called being a man.
@@russellspear6188 he did cover older vocalists in videos before. I think what you get wrong here is that he titled the video the way he did, was because "scream" in todays jargon is mostly used to describe the techniques brought by the more modern metal vocalists. The stuff from the 80s and before was featured in videos, where he covered vocal fry, where he talked about 4 types of vocal fry and counted screaming as one of those 4 subtypes. What he did now was basically to further disect the subtype "screaming" from that earlier video, because he himself just got more advanced with that type of technique and found there to be different variants, that he now showcased. He also talked about how he got chesters scream partially wrong in an older video, because he didn't fully grasp the technique at this point. So I guess he wanted to make a whole seperate video to talk the difference in detail.
@@Yul_B_Awright Take a listen to this scream that starts just after 1:18 and tell me if you know if this style has been covered and taught here. I don't recall this type of scream being analyzed or taught here or even being discussed: ua-cam.com/video/l5yK9oW1M38/v-deo.html
the formal terms for these scream types are;
1: fry scream, created by layering vocal fry onto mixed voice note (or using vocal break for pitchless scream).
2: vestibular fold (aka false fold scream), created by relaxing vocal cords, the pushing air through the vestibular folds.
3: hybrid scream, a blend between the first two screams (the hardest one to do). only to be attempted after mastering both fry scream and vestibular/false fold scream.
for anyone new to screaming techniques, learn and master the first two types before attempting hybrid screams. it's a learning prosses that takes years, but is extremely worth it.
Vocal Fry has nothing to do with fry screaming. Melissa Cross, the person who created the name fry scream, said so herself.
Melissa Cross on Fry:
Fry screaming is NOT the only "right way to scream! There is no 'right way, only wrong ways. And the wrong ways eventually lead to injury. "Fry screaming" is NOT "Vocal fry" There are some similarities, however the experience of fry screaming is so vastly different, it is not helpful comparing it to vocal fry. Learning fry screaming opens a whole new world of resonance and effortless power and improves ALL the other kinds of screaming that involve greater throat constriction.
Fry screaming has flow phonation mechanics like singing. Transitions in and out of melodic passages are seamless even within a single lyric. The added resonances provide variability and dynamics, without which screaming can be monotonous and generic.
@@bennnevans vocal fry is in fact a part of fry screaming, Malissa Cross stated that fry screaming is more than just vocal fry. Fry screaming is vocal fry with projection, glottal compression, and stronger airflow and vocal chord closure.
Vocal fry and fry screaming is not the same, but vocal fry is used to create fry screams. That is why Malissa Cross called is fry scream.
I am a skilled vocalist, and I use gritty singing techniques, metal screaming techniques, and subharmonic fry grit techniques. I am well aware of how fry screaming works.
@@PhoenixSkullStudios vocal fry shouldnt be used to learn fry screams tbh
@@PhoenixSkullStudios I'm sure you're a very skilled vocalist. I am also a skilled vocalist and have been private coaching metal vocals for 3 years now.
Vocal fry has absolutely nothing to do with fry screaming. This is a misnomer.
Fry is a static sounding distortion that comes from a controlled closure (compression/constriction) of the larynx via the constrictor muscles that is combined with a well supported high speed and pressure airflow system.
Vocal fry is safe to use for singing and speaking but is not safe to use for distortion. This is because vocal fry is an irregular phonation of the true vocal folds. They cannot sustain distortion this way. Fry can be created with the true folds, but not with vocal fry.
Fry is a spectrum of sounds that can be produced with almost any cartilage in the throat. Not just the true folds.
I define fry differently than Melissa Cross, but even her definition states that fry and vocal fry are very different. I'm attaching one of her different explanations below:
Fry screaming is a term introduced in 2004. It is a non-periodic pulse register only like vocal fry in speech science because of its aperiodicity BUT VERY DIFFERENT because there is NO engagement of the aryepiglottic folds or false cords. Fry screaming is achieved ONLY by the engagement of the vocal ligament (mode 2) without the weight of additional muscular layers in the folds.
@@bennnevansSo you're a screaming coach? Do you do online lessons?
it's insane how far you yourself have come when I compare your scream at 2:20 to any tutorial you made even a year ago. Maybe it has to do with you working with Will?
Will helped a lot!!
Will is a smokin hot genius@@chrisliepe
You're really good at explaining/teaching these techniques. The energy is uncanny :)
I love your passion being a vocalist.
i did it! I CAN FINALLY FUCKING FRY SCREAM
This is exactly what I needed right now as I am learning metal vocals. I believe the "high engagement" is what a lot of people refer to as "fry" and definitely uses the combination of compression with pressure build up from the diaphragm to get the buzzing sound and power for those types of screams. I loved how you explained shaping your mouth/tongue for different sounds, I was missing that piece. The "low engagement" is definitely what people refer to as "false chord" and it's kind of that gurgling type sensation. You can also alter that sound with mouth shape. What I also needed to hear was you explain the third type. There's a scream I definitely have where I have moderate amounts of pitch control but I couldn't figure out exactly how it was different from the other two. After seeing this and trying it, I see now how it is a combination of the two. I appreciate you explaining these screams in an easy to digest way, it helps me categorize them in my head better.
I think "pushing it too far" as in Taylor's early engagements is relative since he achieved exactly what makes his screams on IOWA so relatable when it comes to ffeling his pain. The way his voice breaks into an almost whiny outlet fits perfectly the sound of desparation and frustration that the songs include. So yes, he pushed it too far but sertainly not by accident.
I've been doing it almost 15 years and still learning the way Dani Filth could continue to scream inspired me.
Dani was my inspiration for vocals too. I got the high pitch through inhaling but I cant do anything with it :\ its literally just a scream
We’re reallly happy for you Chris. You’ve really worked your way to become the foremost authority on screaming! It’s truly impressive and we appreciate the knowledge
I’ve watched many videos on screaming technique. Some with Corey in the video! I have to say, I’ve never fully grasped the different techniques in a theoretical sense until this video. That was the easiest to understand and attempt/execute out of any video I’ve seen on the subject. Thanks Chris!
I've been training for 1-2 hours a day, watching videos like this all over the internet. The amount of progress someone can make so quickly is incredible. I wish I had found this years ago. Keep it up, brother. Support and breath are definitely the hardest parts, right after pronunciation.
Absolutely class
Amazing as always Chris!
Sounding SICK! 🤘
Love your work bro
Nice. It's like a game of Twister. Type 1: place your feet on red. Type 2: place your hands on yellow. Type 3: Now also touch red, green, magenta, indigo, bordeaux, carmin, fuxia, azure and sarcoline
Love this video! Thanks for the tips.
This video is SO HELPFUL!!! 🙌 TY so much
More of this forever pls 😊
Thank you Chris this so interesting really is 🙂
Always love the videos on screaming. Really helping me discover new things with my voice!
amazing stuff and super helpful!
also that staind cover was a pleasant surprise. great stuff
best video so far on this imo
Fantastic video sir 🤘🤘🤘
What a great way to describe these techniques! Very helpful!
this is the most helpful metal vocals video i’ve watched 😭 definitely joining that course e
Fav vocal coach ever
Oh shooot Chris, this might be the video I needed for that last scream! Time to practice and see what happens! Thanks!
Leaping Liepe! You sound so good Chris!!
Been trying to figure out how to get the 3rd broad engagement scream for the longest time and I love your explanation in combining the sensations! Can’t wait to give this a try later 😎
I absolutely love your videos and your vocal course it amazing what you do for learning vocalists🖤
Holy！You are THE ONE Mr. Liepe. Thank you so much ❤
Thank you Chris! This is fantastic. Simple but precise that with the examples and your demonstrations are so helpful. I think I may have done all three, at least for a few seconds… which is very exciting.
Dude thank you so much you have no idea how hard it is for me to find someone I can learn correctly from but you explain this shit so well you deserve some bomb ass
Happiness
I learned proper distortion on this channel and recently discovered new ways to sing-scream. This one adds more stuff for me to experiment with! Thanks Chris :D
Fam, I just discovered I already was doing all of that thanks to your previous videos. But thanks to these videos, it made me think of them on different. Man, again, thank you so much. So much of this information is behind paywalls nowadays that you literally doing us charity. It's like not only students but teachers is also growing. Thanks lad
I watched a video a few months ago where you said you weren’t sure how to get the first one with your voice yet and here you are nailing it already. Been trying to get that sound for a long time now and couldn’t get it till I watched this. Listening to your tip + faking a gag lol. Awesome job man!
I think this is the best video you’ve done about this subject. Pretty clear and concise 🙌🏻
I usually find the nomenclature confusing, but this is a great summary.
Keep on rocking (or metalling😂) 🔥
Thank you ❤
I love that this is here :D Right as I'm editing my fry scream video! Will link once it's edited :)
I was starting to figure out one of them, but your videos have taught me how to do them right. Also, the other two, I had no idea. I'm starting to figure out all 3 thanks to your videos. I don't even like a lot of growly metal music, but I'm realizing these techniques are used in all sorts of rock.
Your screaming is starting to sound really good.
Really educational video! Love it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The best tutorial, baysickly.
God dammit i love you so much. You have helped me so much with your videos.
I FUCKING LOVE THIS GUY! Just realized that
vessel is so fine and his screams are gorgeous
like how.
The second Mr Chris was comfortable to hear. When I watch a rock band from now on, I will put a point of view there too✨The fun has increased😊
Good jobman 👍👍👍🤘🤘🤘
yes. exactly how i have always talked about it.
for me the first one is pure FRY SCREAMS, then GROWLS, then finally a scream divided into 2 sides : heat screaming to yells/break-up-screams (with the control of putting more or less vocal cords).
for example, chester would be more in the heat screaming, and oli sykes more often in the yells.
PS: this is the first time i hear your fry screams, nice job!
It funny that the broad engagement, wich seems the more complex one, is the first way you teach and learned how to scream! In my case it's the most instinctive but I'm struggling with overprojecting too much.
I've never been too much into the techniques of extreme vocals, I prefer to listen than to sing (or scream/groul XD), but this video has been amazing! Really interesting one. Now I would really like to know more about the vocals in they use in Black Metal, like late great Dead in Morbid and Mayhem 😅
perfect way to describe these techniques to someone who knows nothing about compression and engagement (that'll be me!) thanks so much for these videos! Total legend!
It's always fun watching Chris analyze different kind of vocalists, I would be still very very interested in analyzing Till Lindemann's voice in such songs like Puppe from Rammstein, or Angst :D
İ love your screams tutorials 😈😈😎😎🤘🤘
Very cool! Thanks for this video! It’s kind of nuts just how difficult harsh vocals are. I was lucky that placement and projection came easy to me but I just haven’t been able to grasp screams cause I could never figure out what you’re supposed to feel and where since I know it’s not supposed to be in the true vocal cords. Going to try practicing this! It’s just for my own enjoyment since I never sang professionally but I definitely am less anxious about it now that I’m older since my range has changed. Even though it was always just for my own enjoyment I did fear causing damage especially since my voice teacher years ago put the fear of polyps and just completely blowing it in my head! If I can figure this out and get past my anxiety might have to record some of it! If I can get that Chester scream I definitely will! 😁
I was surprised that there was a difference in the type of screaming 🫢 It was very easy to understand and I was really surprised! Usually, when I heard a low and detailed scream from Mr Chris, who was close to a high voice, it was so cool that it was the best. Screaming has nothing to do with the height of a person's voice✨❤
Exactly, I've seen girls who can achieve really low growls. It's all about breath control, mouth shape and tongue placement
2001 Corey was a force of fucking nature. So brutal and destructive it came at a price to even himself!
Damn, now i'm shure that i will finally understand screaming even though there no extreme vocal coaches in my town
i trained so much over the years to flatten my break and i cant find it anymore. i go into head voice so natuarally i just can't do anything to find the damn break lmao -.-
Chris, I have battle of the bands coming up... You are carrying me so hard right now
The low dog bark technique aka I believe growl, is doable, but the fire crackling intense more Black Metal or fry or whatever it is called... scorches my throat in 5 seconds. So basically, I can record some of the sounds I want, but not sustain them or use them for longer periods. The problem I feel is in my upper throat area, feels like the vocal chords are just slamming together and getting sore in seconds. The growl doesn't engage my upper throat like the fry does.
❤ The Zen of Screaming ❤
The perfect video to watch 1st thing in the morning! 🤘😆
learning to scream is really difficult, and it's a perishable skill. I took a break from screaming for a long time and it was hard to re-learn those sensations and how to control them.
Hey man, love your videos! I just wanted to ask if you wouldn't mind checking out/ doing more of a deep dive in Shaun Morgan's voice from seether ? I love his rasp and really would like to learn how to get that sound. I love the song "Pass Slowly" cause of his range in it but in the song "Like Suicide" he does some screams which are super impressive! Thanks!
I was told by my vocal coach that the first type is "fake fry scream" and in the long run is unhealthy 🤨 And it's something you can use from time to time, but for like 10 seconds in songs, definitely not for whole songs
Ask Lauren
I've tried it too and think the same way. But actually I think it depends on the person, sometimes people with "hurting screams" can do that for a lifetime and have no problems.
I think it's the easiest and safest because it's a noise more than it is an actual scream. Andy cizek has also said things along the same lines in his videos.
It’s all about the placement and not about classification or names or anything. Move the placement around until it’s comfortable and then use your ears to tune the sound with the comfortable sensation. If it’s uncomfortable, and not sustainable, make little changes until it feels better and you can do it longer. It’s a journey, not about calling things certain names or trying to define stuff, but experimenting and finding what works for you based on what you feel and here.
I was told the same thing. But after seeing the videos with Chris, Elizabeth (Charismatic Voice) and Will I finally trusted that it can be safe as long as the sound doesn’t come from the actual vocal cords. This video is great cause it explains the way it’s supposed to feel as well which I think is different than just thinking placement like if you’re moving from chest to head voice. Chris is awesome! 😊
Teach us how to do Dani Filth Scream :).
Chris, for me the easiest one is Chester's, I can do that without problem. But others are hard to understand for now. I'll give them another try later.
Corey Taylor just a freaking freak that man’s neck is insane 😂
I’ve never heard a more accurate use of the term “juicy edge”. Then again, I don’t think I’ve ever heard someone use it either.
Around 2010 we called that fry, false chord, and eventually mixed false-fry. There's not a standard textbook on these techniques so different people tend to use those words differently nowadays. There's also the fact that anatomically, there's elements of false fold engagement and probably other similar things in all of them.
It's interesting to see how prevalent the broad engagement has become within the a genre of music that's become as oversaturated as it is today. I grew up on mostly whisper fry (high engagement) myself. The majority of tutorials back then were emo/scene kids teaching that lol
This honestly is the first time I felt that someone explained my screaming technique (third one). I always figured this was a powerfry. As I started out doing the sigh (false chord) technique but felt that this limited the mixture of my own voice into my screams
I’d love for you to hit up some more harsh vocalists and get their insight on this stuff too, I think even Will would tell you Ben Duerr of Shadow of Intent would be an amazing guest to have on about these techniques
Chris ik this is a awkward request but I was wondering if I could email u and show u my entire range of screams and techniques in a short vid and u tell me if it sounds good love the vids as always you've been helping me for years now
That thumbnail is perfect by the way. Taylor, Bennington, Ramos, and what's his face from Sleep Token, that's a pretty well rounded selection
Can you please do a video about Oliver from Archspire? He has some of the most insane growls i’ve heard.
Yeah false chord is good for mids and lows but you can definitely do highs with it
Thank you for helping me❤ more to Scream. Mein Mann dachte eine Spinne sitzt auf m Sofa. Nein ich hab nur geübt 😅
Holy shit I did most of these
Example of the broad voice sounded a lot like lemongrab from adventure time
I would love seeing you react to Vinushka like, from Dir en Grey!!! Search for the one with english lyrics, you'll never regret it!!
Please do Lewis De Jong from Alien Weponary please !!
🔥 and WARM UP first yall!
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How do you control the power @chris liepe? I can either push and scream my ass off or barely push and sound awful.. lol.
Hi Chris, what about Ian Gillan? Who had influeence on Bruce Dickinson or Eric Adams with his screaming? Is that also the 3rd type or sth else? Thanks M.
Hey Chris, I think I missed the discover your voice Free course? Or am I thinking of something else? You've said in class to go look at the beginner course and I'm not sure if I ever did that.. just curious thanks 🙏
Please do Lewis De Jong from Alien Weponary please !!!
Chester the goat
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me, still sick and coughing, watching this 🥺