Greetings from a believer in the death - burial - and resurrection as the scripture states. Warning: Tough subject. When I was new to Christain gospel studies, the church asked me not to come back, because in my estimate "the one" us sealed believers should pray for 'once'... Lucifer.' Truly, an enemy and, (prodigal son)? No befriending though! Your nice reply? Maranatha✝
dude seriously I said it before, please don't use keeps as a sponsor for this channel. It is literally against God's will. If God did no want you lose your hair you would not. I understand you need to make some money. I would disagree doing that with God's message, remember the pharisees, but at least don't use keeps as a sponsor not only is it annoying but is bothersome on a channel spreading God's message. Ask yourself would Jesus agree with sending that kind of message. Please rethink your sponsor, maybe look at Joe Kirby for inspiration. Also I really don't know any other christian channel that uses a sponsor apart from maybe trying to sell merch with bible verses. You lost me as a sub
There’s a scripture in Isaiah 46:3-4 that says (Paraphrasing) God made us and He takes responsibility for us, from our mother’s womb to our gray hair. I am not sure if it’s for the Israelites, but as a grafted-in Gentile, I receive this comforting Word, He is my Abba, He made me, planned me, He will not abandon me, He will carry me throughout my whole earthly life to when I am in His Presence eternally ❤
Atheist do not believe in aliens, ufos, cryptid creatures!! I was on the Atheist Experience last month & boy they attacked me & did not let me speak much, they hogged the time to prove they don't excist!!
That’s beautiful! Thanks for explaining your understanding of this passage: Isaiah 46:3-4 “Listen to me, O house of Jacob, all the remnant of the house of Israel, who have been borne by me from before your birth, carried from the womb; even to your old age I am he, and to gray hairs I will carry you. I have made, and I will bear; I will carry and will save.
He made you and planned everything out you have no free will. Aka nobody has free will. As a result, everything you Christan say is evil is made by God. That is because he made us all and then planned what will happen to us all.
I asked God one day. If we are sinfull on this earth. What is going to stop us from doing the same things in heaven. He replied. In perfect love you can't sin. 😊
It's a mans voice. Deep.. loving, knowing I was his child. It was a warm and happy feeling. He called me three times as a toddler. At the time I was with momma driving at night. I was two or three only barely able to make sentences. He was very loud and like a father. I knew it immediately as a man first. Then I asked momma if she said my name. Completely silence from her an a no. My father been out of my life since then and before. She was alone driving. I was in the back seat. I said ok afterwards. I never heard it again,nor did I chase it as I grew to rebel. He was male,saying my name as I was his child. So I responded. My name means favored and I am the tribe of Dan. @@markbyfield8190
responded with responses to both the questions. I hope you'll be willing to read them... And through The Mercy of God open your heart again. I've had moments where I was hurt by certain ones who proclaimed Jesus... Luckely He called upon my life without any interference from Christians.🤗💯 God is not a man that He should lie 💝👍. I pray The Lord, through His Omnipotant Love, will enter your heart. Within His Love for you, and from the bottom of my heart,honestly 💞 ; " May The Lord God through The Messiah bless you in abundance. For His Face to shine upon you and give you peace🕊️ Sincerely in Christ Jesus through The Holy Spirit 💖, in His service ✝️🌹,
Frank give a false narrative by comparing himself as a father to God as a father. Frank as a father is not omnipotent but God is. Frank cannot make children that will not sin but God can.
@@PaulPereira-l5q yeah I agree. The answer to that question just can't be found in this life time. Only life in eternity will we understand. Our earthly minds are so so limited and I'm sure God has done that for a reason. Guess that is a part of learning to TRUST God with our lives despite what WE see or think. 💗🙏
He supposedly created everything according to your beliefs but punishes you for not following his word? Yet he also created the opposite to tempt you? Again you hats with the narcissistic behaviour? Yeah I’ll choose a happy death if that’s the case
I really enjoy your channel as you let the clip play before you break it down vs people who just interrupt the whole time. Keep up the great work and God Bless 🙏
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom why do you keep deleting my comments, I said nothing offensive nor did I try to be inflammatory.?It's one thing to not like what I say to you, or people I might have mentioned, but to have the mere thought and act on the fact to delete entire conversations I have with others is just wrong one more then one level.
It distills down to this: Without free will there is no love. Forced love isn't love. God won't force us to love Him. In doing that He showed us His ultimate love. Except unlike a bad friend or a lover, God will still chase us even if we don't want to love Him yet. He gives us the freedom to choose it or not but as we all know, you can't force someone to love you and you wouldn't WANT to make someone feel forced to love you either.
@@CR-yd4qeSo you would rather have God to force you to love Him? God cannot fail if He gives free will. He is not responsible for our sins. We are responsible for our sinful actions. God never forced us to sin, either. We are the ones who rejected Him, He never rejected us first. If a parent warns their child to look both ways when crossing a road, or else they get hit by a car, and the child grows older and doesn’t heed their parents’ warning and gets hit by a car, would that be the parents’ fault? No, it simply isn’t. God warns us that if we keep rejecting Him and His goodness, then we’re going to hell. That’s a fair warning. There’s always a consequence to our actions. It seems you don’t believe in consequences, and that people should just do what they want.
@@katierucker2870 yes I take your point, your child doesn’t listen to you and j-walks without looking. Ends up in traction with multiple compound fractures 😢 You (the parent) visit your injured progeny and say “you didn’t listen to my warning so I’m going to twist your broken legs and cause you intense agony for eternity”. Great example of gods love, you’ve convinced me I’ll be in church tomorrow 🐹
In what universe does this make sense? I made you to love me but you can choose to love me but if you don’t I’ll punish you ? That’s your big revelation from this god ?
This guy Turek doesn’t know the Bible 100% that’s why he can’t answer adequately. If you want to understand GOD who HE really is I have some uploads on UA-cam 24 sermons each about 90 minutes . Explaining the whole Bible scenario, from Genesis to revelation.
@@CR-yd4qe so you didn’t get any sense then😂. Any normal person who has passed elementary school knows that life can’t come from nothing. Knowing this, not believing in God makes you nonsensical
I have two sides when it comes to my daily devotions. one side goes deeper, tries to gain the context, and look beyond the text. the other side enjoys reading the word without overthinking or overcomplicating the text. Over time, I am trying to find that balance between too intellectual for knowledge sake, and too surfaced where there isn't much beyond enjoying a "story."
@@joeleniola9140 There are some deep questions about Satan and whatnot. Sometimes if we look for specific answers about matters that are really back burner issues, we miss the message.
😂 again WTF are you going about? I just live your life without religious constraints I guarantee you actually be happy not living with fear of disappointing an imaginary god who apparently already knows when and why you have failed him but let’s it happen anyway because for some reason he enjoys actually seeing it, maybe it looks better in real life 4K and his memory is still in 720p 😂
Isaiah 14 vs 12 The Fall of Lucifer 12 “How you are fallen from heaven, O [d]Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! 13 For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’ 15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the [e]lowest depths of the Pit.
@@victoriasalvant5629can’t be Cain, Cain wasn’t cut down from heaven, Cain didn’t weaken the nations, Cain did not say his heart that he wants to usurp God, those words only fits the anointed cherub , Lucifer himself
I have to say that I was very impressed with the video. Frank Turek, I watch quite a few times. I have not seen this video before and thank you for sharing it. Mayn GOD bless you, in JESUS name. Amen.
Great questions and thanks for sharing. I had the same questions for a long time but never got anything close to answer til now after hearing this 😊I had asked the same question on the origin of evil and after awhile, I’ve concluded that much as we don’t know the origin of God, I think evil was always there and don’t think God created evil. But God is the key who holds everything together. Going from the saying darkness is the absence of light, one can see the importance of light appearing in the darkness. God creates order out of chaos and upholds everything good, he is the the corner stone, beam, pillar that holds up the universe earth heavens etc. The choice we are given is to be used to choose him. If otherwise, then one falls out of range of the light and into darkness and chaos one remains.
I have this question. Why did God throw Lucifer and the Fallen Angels down to the Earth when God could have thrown them to other planets, stars or galaxies and let Adam and Eve be freely given the test to see if they're personally obedient to God.
If evil has always existed then God is evil since He’s the only eternal being.. Evil couldn’t have existed with God because God is Holy, evil only exists because God created the possibility for it and He did for His own glory in the end.. That’s why in the new heavens and earth, there will be no more evil, God will wipe it out with the possibilities..
Seriously need to ask deeper questions like these, it’s not a simple case of go left or right , there’s still up and down or inward and outward and that’s only our current understanding who actually knows how many other directions are possible.
Love your videos. They help me to think more critically as a believer myself. And can I say that I loved your response to the first question even more than Frank Turek's, all due respect to him of course. Us being IN Christ is the key to not following the path of Lucifer when in heaven, even with free will.
Until your not a believer you cat think critically, I’m convinced any religious person has never had an individual thought and I’m yet to be proven wrong
Great channel .... I read a chapter a day , to daily feed on the bread of Life....then from time to time at His choosing the Holy Spirit highlites a truth to show a deeper truth i had not seen before.
A young man said to me some years ago I never told God to make me , I took it he was asking why did God make me which i thought instantly was a fair question and also pretty much straight after this is what i believe God had me ask him . Me : When you make a sandwich what do you like on it ? Him : Peanut butter Me : Why ? Him : Because i like peanut butter Me : Ok fair enough Me : If that sandwich could talk and said to you , Why have you made me like this , why didn't you make me a jam sandwich instead ? What would be your reply ? He didn't reply but the look on his face said it all , the penny dropped..... For us both . 💯❤️☝️🙂
But if your imaginary sentient sandwich said “I don’t want to be grilled for eternity “ just because you made me doesn’t mean I have no rights. This kind of philosophy was where the idea that wives and children are property comes from. “I made you therefore you are my property”. 🐹
@@CR-yd4qe fair point, and it does show how all analogies ultimately fall short. I think the better (but still not perfect) analogy than a sandwich is a young man who sees a beautiful woman that he wants to date, but she refuses. He tries to woo her, but ultimately she says, "No." What is the man supposed to do: force her to love him? Such a thing is not possible! No, eventually after she rejects him enough he will stop trying to form a relationship with her. God made human beings to share his love with them. Some human beings refuse to partake in this. Being out of God's presence is what Hell is. It is described as "the outer darkness....a place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth." Btw, the sad truth is that if there is no God, then there is no purpose or right to life: we simply poof out of existence. No one has an inalienable right to anything.
@@sidwhiting665 as analogies go I prefer your first one. The girl has every right to reject the man’s unsolicited advances, should he then have the right to have her shunned from her family and if l continues to reject his demands condemn her to everlasting fire?🔥. He sounds like a stalker to me and a court would take a dim view of his obsessive behaviour. 🐹
My reply would of been: I made the sandwich with peanut butter because I created it with my vision of true culinary perfection. I wouldn’t have the peanut butter sandwich altered, mixed, or tainted by the jam. The Peanut Butter sandwich doesn’t need the Jam in order to be beautiful or wonderful in any way. The Peanut Butter sandwich is divine, perfect, delicious, and remarkable all by itself. The Peanut Butter sandwich never asked me to make it. The Peanut Butter sandwich might not have even wanted me to take it. However, I made it anyway out of love. I believe the Peanut Butter sandwich is remarkable and I wanted to share how remarkable it is with the rest of the world. The Peanut Butter sandwich may not even realize it, but a world with out it would be a sad world. The existence of the Peanut Butter sandwich will have a far reaching impact on the world then it will ever know. An when the Peanut Butter sandwich gets sad that people don’t want to eat it due to being allergic or due to them wanting to eat Ham sandwich or Tuna sandwich. In those moments of sadness, That is when I love the Peanut Butter sandwich even more. My love for it is unwavering because it is special to me. Yeah, I think that is my answer to the question.
Why would a god create a system in which your very soul is at stake and wants you to make that decision without evidence but faith? Faith is an unreliable pathway to truth.
There’s overwhelming evidence bro. Just take a look around you. Sadly sometimes no amount of evidence can smash that horrible pride attribute that most of us have. Have a look at the video on the evidence for the Red Sea crossing and The mountain inside the Ararat mountains that’s been scorched at the top. If they don’t at least start you on your journey to want to know the truth sadly no amount of evidence will. God Bless bro
thanks God for doc's explaining about creating me on this earth..sometimes that question pops up in me. i didn't choose to be here.. but God gave a way.. truly, God will make a way to understand.. to God be the glory.
@@tomdavid952 The second one, but the answer to the first is also not good. I will say he bs the first question and did not answer the second one at all.
@@joeleniola9140 He did answer.. i did not choose to be created is like blaming God for this sinful world.. creating someone and force to obey God or else they will die. We have freewill, choose life or death. When God created us, He provides everything.. but many rejected Him. We cannot blame God for our sufferings, loneliness and death because He provides a way. He provides the knowledge to understand truth. He provides everlasting life. He gave us His son. The only reason why we asked this questions, why God created me is because of sufferings, sickness and death. We try to blame Him and that's what this enemy wants to insert in our mind. Did God failed His children? Instead of complaining, we need to give thanks and worship Him because He created us and provides every thing we need.. not what we want or like in this world. We cannot be satisfied on this world. The power, wealth and strength will ends but His promises if we only obey never cease. in short, God provides our NEEDS not what we want. We need to be content of what we have because everything here is temporar. God bless you.
Recently discovered your channel and look forward to your videos. Thought provoking, at times emotional but always challenging me to delve deeper into my reason for being. Much love from Ireland ☘ 💚🙏
Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment! So happy you're finding the content helpful. My last name is McGuire. We're originally from County Fermanagh, North Ireland! Good stuff!
For the second question, I think there is a greater act of mercy and love by NOT creating humanity. If I knew that by creating one individual human would result in eternal damnation, I would never create humanity in the first place.
It's a good point. But I suppose God didn't create humanity in the first place with the intention of the possibility that they would suffer eternal damnation. That then leads to the question why did God not just start over?.. but I suppose the whole point of having humans and not pets is that we have free will and the capacity to choose Him or ourselves? As much as I respect Dr Turek, he also didn't answer the implied sub-question the second question has, which is how can you settle all those who haven't heard of Jesus and therefore didn't have the ability to be saved? People were living and dying all over the world for thousands of years before Jesus, and in the years after Jesus, but before his word was spread across the world. It seems at surface level that those people are doomed for damnation and don't get a choice in the matter, which seems difficult to come to terms with.
100% agree with your point on the 2nd quesrltion. I was waiting for him to go into further detail, but he didn't. He missed the point of the question, imo.
So if you are in a burning building with your child and you are dying but you can save your child....wouldnt you save them? Point is...not every one wants to go to hell
@@everyhandlestaken what about John 14:16 though? Bearing that passage in mind, I interpret Romans 2:14-15 to simply state that people innately know God, morality and goodness. That's not necessarily going to get them into heaven. It's a tricky question. Personally I settle it by saying that I cannot judge God's actions and decisions, and instead trust in His mercy, righteousness and love. Not the greatest argument to put towards a sceptic, however!
What is grace? Unmerited favor, goodness not deserved. Does God owe us grace? No, we have sinned and only deserve His wrath. What does it say in Roman's 9 concerning Rebekah and the twins? Romans 9:10-13 NASB And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; [11] for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, [12] it was said to her, "The OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER." [13] Just as it is written, "Jacob I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED." Romans 9:14-16 NASB What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! [15] For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." [16] So then it does not depend on the man who "wills" or the man who runs (works) , but on God who has mercy. Read the next verses. He raised Pharoah up and hardened his heart so He could crush him and show his power. Cruel you may say, no. It's called justice. He sinned, he deserves hell. Just like the rest of us. Some God saves for His good pleasure and some He passes over. God can show off any one of His attributes when He pleases. He grants faith Philippians 1:29 NASB For to you it has been granted for Christ's sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake. He also grants repentance. 2 Timothy 2:24-26 NASB The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, [25] with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, [26] and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. God lets Satan blind the minds of unbelievers as a form of punishment and God hardens hearts for the same reason. Satan is God's puppet on a leash. Satan means it for evil and God means it for good to get the most glory. If you think this life is about you and your so called free will, you are sadly mistaken. It's all about God's story and glory. Psalm 115:3 NASB But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases. Jesus suffered God's wrath for the ones that were chosen. The ones who would repent and believe. I have shown you both are a gift from God the sinner contributes nothing but sin which even God is in control of. What is your favorite food? Was you born and told yourself your favorite food would be pizza or tacos? No, God chose those and works out the sin you commit in such a way that His goodness is not tarnished. The removal of grace is where sin comes in to play. He does not owe us grace and can use it how He pleases. I hope this helps the people who read this understand God better.
@@joeleniola9140 The first question was actually a bunch of questions, about things that the Bible doesn't specifically answer. So, his answers are not bs, they are more theories, based on possibilities to be true. Like asking what is heaven like. We can tell some things that the Bible makes clear, but without experiencing it, we can not say what it smells like etc. But, he did a good job, with the limited information that we have. To me, where did sin come from? God is a Person with a will. He can not be anyone else. When someone with a free will (satan) goes against God's will, this becomes sin. And if that little thing (sin) grows, it would create many that could nit dwell indefinitely in God's presence. If you were forced to live with someone who believed opposite from you, and taught others around him to also believe opposite from you. How long could you live in the same room? And because satans view would keep others away from God, and Goodness, it had to be punished (judged). To me, this makes sense. Cause, and effect. What a person sows, that he will also reap. If he sows good seed, he will reap eternal life. If he sows evil, he will reap destruction. And unbelief is evil (see Hebrews 3).
@@scottm4042 I don't think I can convince any Christian that according to bible humans don't have free will. I hope you can come to that conclusion, but I don't think I am helping in any way. The answer to how long I can live with the person that has opposite view from me is forever. Though it will be stressful and annoying sometimes I will be okay with living with him/her. God on the other hand can't tolerate this, he did something a man would do. He basically deletes the rebels. No forgiveness, he just sends them into hell. This is the God you serve. You claim he is of love, but the same book you get this from says otherwise. Oh, he is forgiving, he is actually not unless you give him some animal or human blood. I can go all day about how this God is neither love of forgiving.
The book of Revelation talks about the new reality of Earth… the reality of God living with us. I believe that as humans, who lived in the sinful condition and consequent suffering, we won’t desire to live it again and out of free will want to live in God’s presence forever! 🙌🏼♥️
@clebermachado. Can you explain the Volition (free will) and the Temperament ( innate nature) that being will have in the new reality who will not transgress against God from being who were able to transgress in the present of God while they where in heaven.
Fabulous as always. For the 2nd question, I think of the analogy of someone wanting to eat glass. We try to tell them to not eat glass because our bodies cannot process glass. But they want to eat it and they did not choose this non-glass consuming body, so we should not encourage them to eat food. For me and my house, we choose food.
We are currently in the process, the perfect plan is unfolding to create the final product, we are not finished yet, we are in the "here and now, and not yet," so when we finite temporal beings look around at this we don't understand the process fully, but the Maker is working out His perfect process to make the final product
0:00 - 5:20 I believe at the end of time whether a person is in the new heaven/new earth or the lake of fire. There is no more free will. Because our free will has already been exercised in our choices to follow God or not. So by the time your with God or in the lake of fire, your free will choice has already been expended, as you've already reached your destination Analogy: if theres 2 doors, and you pick the left one. Once your in there you no longer have the choice anymore. As its already expended. At the beginning of time you have the choice to choose your destination.At the end of time you have reached the destination.
That’s interesting! I think We will always have free will in heaven friend . Bc we will always have love. We won’t be robots. Hell- there is so much pain/ anguish / separation from God your free will is useless . you CAN’T do anything else but wish you would’ve listened. Heaven - there is so much love / peace / joy/ Glory you won’t want to do anything else but live and praise God bc you will have all you need . Always fulfilled . Never lacking . Surrounding by more love that we can fathom.
I'm so thankful for your channel and for Frank Turek!! Both of you gentlemen are AWESOME!! Thank you for everything you do for us! Much respect and support from Yuma, AZ.
Hey Charlene. We shall be in the new earth for eternity, not heaven. It is good that repentance is available. We are going through tribulation right now, but the wrath of God will be poured out upon the wicked. We shall be caught up to meet the Lord Jesus in the air, go to heaven for the marriage supper, and return on white horses to reign with King Jesus for 1,000 years.
The Lord God Almighty, Most High already knew us before we were conceived : of THAT importance you are !! Accept God's second Covenant through Christ. When He'll lead your way to your full potential and this question will fade away and become self-evident. 🎯💌. My apology for this second answer apart from the first. My system mal-functions at times. Hence... Just thought it was also an important one to answer. God bless in abundance 💐. Sincerely,
heres a story back when u was 16 i cceoted jesus and i was so excited i was learning for a while then my dad got sickk i prayed and pryed for him to get better it never happend after that my faith was up and down diifferent things happend in my life that shaked my faith
Please do study the word and don't skip the interesting part either. The part where God supports slavery, wiped out the entire planet, did not forgave sin, and so on.
@@ADxtraIsHere You can do a quick google search for the slavery verses. The flood is what I was referring to as wipe out the entire planet. I was referring to Lucifer, Adam. Eve, the snake, Sodom, and all the other people that god did not forgive. These are all the things in your bible. This all show how the god of the bible is not loving and people that worship him should see that.
@@joeleniola9140 Where in the Bible does it say that God did not forgive Adam and Eve? And the people of Sodom were morally and spiritually corrupt, in direct defiance of God's will. Lucifer obviously wouldn't be forgiven because not only did he place his will, passion and desires over God's (essentially what sin is), he corrupted God's creation. God sent the flood to wipe out morally deficient people and saved Noah (and his family) because they were morally correct or (put another way) they're will aligned with God
I think, the underlying issue is, that you have to make an effort to get into the other boat compared to not being there in the first place and not needing to be saved and not having to make that effort, which comes with real life implications. On the contrary: If you are saved and get a pure new body free from sin in exchange.... I would prefer to have to make that effort.
The bigger question is why can’t I be on the shore looking at fools being in and out of the boat, some needing help and some not, just wondering why these choices are the only ones I have? What if I turn around and see the beach oh wow there’s a third choice I was never made aware of? Or I look beyond the beach and see lush grass and trees even a fourth choice now? I mean why are we even limiting ourselves to only two choices placed in front of us yet never bothered to look around
Patiently awaiting the day someone comes along and encourages healthy debate from both sides but as is always the case with this cult they parrot each other
Also notice how daily dose whatever only comments on those who praise him not those who challenge, only get silence on my comments that he actually allows. So much for debating when only positive comments are acknowledged
I love your connection to Marriage on the first question. It completely eradicates the idea that it would still be possible to sin in Heaven, Post-Second coming of the Lord. Wonderful video! God Bless
I do not have enough faith to be an atheist. It is mind-boggling. How many hoops I would have to jump through to have no faith in God's existence. All praise and glory to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Yeah I'm not an atheist either. Because the truth is that God does exist but it doesn't mean that we can't have faith in him because we can have no faith in him.
@thefighter5182 atheist have to bend reality to come to the conclusion that God does not exist. Everything points to a Holy God and His creation. Jesus is 100% man and 100% God. That does not mean that 100% of God was in Jesus Christ. The human body would have no way of holding 100% of God. That is why Jesus prayed to God. All praise to the alpha and omega and the I AM our Heavenly father. Amen.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uAtheist don’t bend reality and most of us atheists are not making the positive assertion that there is no god. It requires no faith at all to be an atheist. I’m not convinced that a god exist a god could very well exist but I have no evidence of this being the case. It’s like court. If a cop arrested you for murder but presented the courts with no or insufficient evidence the court would automatically find you not guilty of murder due to a lack evidence. That’s what atheism is it’s the default position of disbelief in a claim until that claim has met the burden of proof. Hope this cleared things up for you.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uNope that’s not how that works as an atheist I’m not bending reality I’m examining the claims and seeing if they meet the burden of proof.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uThats just your imagination.The most accurate position is agnostic.We dont have evidence for God, it doesnt mean that some Force didnt create universe/multiverse it just means that at the moment we are not able to prove it, just like we were not able to see cells under the microscope few hundred years ago.Nonetheless, case of God, dont help lies that are base of Christianity, Islam and all other religions.Simply its fact that it is utterly stupid to believe in "prophets", "angels", "hell", "heaven"...Those are human ideas which served to fill the gaps of our knowledge.The sooner you Christians, Muslims... rejecet stupid lies you believe in the sooner there will be established base for possibly factual God.If there is a God your religions just mock it by using lies and wishful thinking.That wishful thinking was justified to some degree 2000years ago, but at this point is just stubborn stupidity.
4:21 her question is sometimes called the paradox of choice. If I have the ability to only choose righteousness, do I have the ability to choose at all. If there’s only one option available to me, do I have any options at all. Here’s the funny thing about this paradox, by giving someone free will, God gave him the ability to choose to obey or disobey, the. Existence of free will create the ability to rebel, but you have to remember just because someone has the ability to rebel does not mean they have a right or a responsibility to it, and it does not put the rebellion on the creator or give her a free will because if it’s God’s fault, then the creature doesn’t have free will
The analogy I tell my daughters is to say it’s kinda like really ugly clothes. Just bc they make them doesn’t mean u should wear them. As teenagers, they full understand lol.
The Lord Jesus does have a free will. He chose and will always choose the Father's will, there is no way He can do different and yet He has his own will (see prayer at Gethsemane). When we "get to heaven", by the action of the Holy Spirit, we will have the Lord's character formed in us. So we will share His choice. There will be no way of choosing anything else, and yet, it will be a free choice. The love of God constrains us (2Co 5).
The parable about building on the rock or sand is great, because the consequences of doing the wrong thing is not a punishment, it just happens. Atheists often claim God is unfairly punishing people who simply just don't have any reason to believe in Him. Yet most often their poor choices are their own punishment. It is a rare thing for God to intervene and punish. He tolerates a great deal of wickedness before he does so. He is also merciful in punishment. It is never long drawn out though it may be painful. Probably, the Flood was the worst of all (evee God hints at this). One could conceivably have survived many days into the flood, or managed to stay afloat before drowning. Though I like to believe no one stood a chance against the raging waters and would have quickly drowned.
Keep sharing these type of videos bro 👍🏾 Frank Turek is an awesome apologist 🙌🏾 Does he have any new videos, or interviews, etc?… If he doesn’t I’ve seen several other apologists, do you have any new content apologists have made? - God bless brother 🙌🏾
Thanks brother! I put up 4 new videos with me and Frank from a few weeks ago.. moreso in video podcast style.. but I’m always open to content recommendations. My email is in the info part of this channel 🙌
Yeah, "ultimate heaven" seems like an ad hoc label. Frank is right that Jesus in the gospels is predicting a kingdom of God on earth. It gets weird if you try to reconcile that with other ideas in the bible.
Alright, I have an issue with people who die go and be with GOD? What I understand is when we die, as Paul puts it, we are asleep until the return of JESUS, so Mr. Frank states, they go be with GOD, all through scripture, it does not say that at all. Here is one of many, but this one is so very sincere, 1 Thess. 4: 13-18, says it all. So when we die, we are asleep and waiting for judgement to come. Praise GOD!!
I agree with you. When one dies they wait in the grave unaware (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) of their surroundings like being asleep. Then they resurrect when Christ returns if they are in him
Then why does Paul say to be absent from the body is to be present with God? Also, why would Jesus tell the thief that he would be in paradise that very night with Him?
We were also fearfully and wonderfully made. That means that through gods wisdom he knew that there would be the chance through free will that there could be the sin and evil that we face today and there would be many loss to sin. But he also saw the absolute wonderfulness in those of us that are one with him through Jesus, he always new we would need a savior and that this savior would be a sacrifice that would be deemed enough by the father to exalt us along with Jesus to the right hand side of the father in righteousness for those who believe on the one whom was sent. His pureness and love in the desire to have a relationship that was chosen by us to have with him was the drive for our creation.
I need to share something on the topic "I didnt chose to exist". My answer is: Maybe you did, maybe we all did. This answer is my extension of an explaination I have heart on the topic FREEDOM OR PREDESTINATION. This theory moved the free will before our creation. God knows how we will choose, so he created our lifes according to our free will. Our entire life is created by our character and free will. God lets it happen. The ultimate connection of free will and predestination. Like parents who know their kid wont be perfect and they still create it, so God lets us live. Back to the "I didnt choose to exist" dilemma according to this theory. I think, the soley fact that we exist, shows us that we wanted to exist. Maybe like God knows everything about us, he knew that we wanted to exist. He wouldnt push us into existence. I think the man in this video is happy to exist even if he talks that way. Maybe we decided to live and God granted us this gift. Maybe we did choose at some point that God can create us. Interesting? Oh yeah!!
I'm not a Bible expert or anything, but I think you're right. I know the Bible says that we all existed before the foundation of the earth. I heard something, not sure where in the Bible, but about us volunteering to be on earth in his creation.
❤Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. His creation includes the universe of all space, time, matter, energy and life. ❤John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. ❤What is easier to Believe? God...the Creator Created Creation...or...Nothing Evolved Everything.
NASA The universe is everything. It includes all of space, and all the matter and energy that space contains. It even includes time itself and, of course, it includes you. Bible In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.
@timothytrudelle9245 I'm not exactly sure what your point is, but I'll just add that it's also about the source of all creation and how it got there. Saying that the universe contains everything doesn't explain how it all got there, including the universe itself and even including existence as a concept. Saying that the universe is everything isn't enough to justify atheism, because it doesn't explain much. It just explains WHAT is, not HOW it is or WHY it is.
I believe in God but I don't find the idea that God always existed any easier to believe that the universe always existed. When it comes to ideas about the nature of existence things start to break down and leave the realm of reason and expectation.
@almightyzentaco If God hasn't always existed, then there would be no existence, because there would be nothing to create God. God is 'eternal,' because there has to be something before everything, but God himself acts outside of time, space and matter, which is what existence is. Space, matter and time can't create space, matter and time before space, matter and time have been created, and so God created space, matter and time. We can't comprehend the nature of God, but him always existing is the explanation for everything, because if he didn't always exist, that means something was before him and would lead you to believe that there are an infinite amount of gods creating each other...which then leads to the same question of "who created the first creator?" God being eternal is the explanation.
I’m a Christian but I’ve been doing a lot of critical thinking here lately and really challenging my faith, if it cannot stand what do I really have right? On that second question, with Frank’s analogy, it’s basically like “ believe in God or else” or “accept Christ or else “ or else what? The boat you’re in will sink and you’ll die right? Of course most people will get on the boat because they don’t want to sink or die. You could tell them to believe in the tooth fairy and they’ll probably hop on so they don’t die. Not really a good analogy. We apparently have a sin “problem “ that we didn’t create and we also did not choose to be born but the solution to the problem ( if you believe there IS a ‘problem’) is a solution in which you’re almost given no choice but to accept..if you want to ‘live’. On top of that once we become believers, we have Christ’s imputed righteousness which ‘makes’ us holy (in Gods sight) but it is impossible for us to actually BE “holy” in a practical sense, in this flesh, because of what we are at our core, sinners. Why would I ask or expect a dog to be anything more than a dog? Why would it be asked that anything be anything OTHER than what it was created to be? THIS I struggle with,…
God has every moral right to decide how we live our life, And what the consequences are if we don't. God created the universe that we live in, God created the world. We live in, God created the animals in the plants that we eat to survive, God gave us a brain to use. , he provides for us through the climate by sending the rain. And all the nutrients that we can gather to help sustain us. Is it too much to ask that we honor God with our, faith, worship, life?
@@roberteager2803 It’s not that “is it too much to ask” it’s about we were, without our consent, brought into this world with a propensity to “sin”. Then we are asked NOT to “sin”, when it is in our very nature TO “sin”. My question was simply why are we being asked to NOT be how we were clearly programmed TO be?
I love Frank and I’m a big fan of his work. I find that it’s helps me tremendously…. I just wish that he would answer truthfully sometimes and say that he doesn’t really know the answer. I find that he frequently avoids answering the question by deviating it to pre-existing clauses that are already made for similar questions.
There's also a fundamental paradox in saying, "I didn't consent to being created", as it assumes you were already created in order to give consent for your creation lol.
While that may be true, I don’t think that’s what question was really getting at. It doesn’t matter whether he actually prefers being created versus not, but, when your creator creates you and demands your unconditional love and worship otherwise damning you with eternal hellfire it begs the question as to why you would be created. An all knowing god also forces you into this position knowing fully what your ultimate fate will be. I don’t think this serves to disprove the existence of a god, but highlights the nature of the Christian god from a different perspective. Paradox aside, if he had the choice to be created versus being forced into the proposition above, maybe he would have preferred not to be created. Similarly, Frank’s analogy really does not line up with the situation that humans are put in if the Christian god is true. It would be more accurate if the people that were offering to save you were also the ones who threw you overboard to begin with. There’s just a bit of irony in that situation.
Well that doesn't sound like the Christian God at all. First the Christian God does not demand our unconditional love. We wouldn't be able to give it in the first place. Second the Christian God does not damn us to hell for not loving Him; He damns us to hell because we have committed crimes worthy of such a punishment. However unlike any human judge, God does not deal with us according to what we deserve because he gave His own Son the death penalty in our place so that we might be saved from our proper sentence. WE are the ones who throw ourselves overboard, but it is God who does not deal with us according to what we deserve and begs us to take the life boat He has provided. God knows whether you will or won't choose rescue but the choice is still up to you.
That makes sense. How can one not yet existing be able to extend or retract consent to come into existence? To be able to do so implies that one is already in a state of existence, even if it be "no-existence".
It doesn't matter if you didn't choose to exist but you can't deny the fact that we do exist. Because we wouldn't be having this conversation on UA-cam if we didn't exist at all. Because the whole no-existence proves nothing. Because you wouldn't say that The Devil doesn't exist if God exists. Because that would be an ignorant thing to say. Right?
For me here is how I would answer it. You don't ask for a gift you are given a gift. What you do with that gift is up to you. God gave us the greatest gift life. I didn't ask for it it was given to me and personally I am grateful for it. Given a choice between life and never existing I will always choose life. I know I have not dealt with even modest hardship in my life compared to those of the past so you might think it is easy for me to say I choose life. However I have no doubt in my mind that those that live harder lives than I, receive all that much more joy out of the good times they are a part of. I think the vast amount of people would agree with me and say they would choose the gift of life, only the foolish would choose to never exist.
I have asked my "bible teacher" the exact same questions about 2 weeks ago and got an answer that makes now even more sense, especially because not everything makes sense what this guy said. Furthermore, according to him we all go to heaven. So what is the earth made for? Just to stay temporarily? Why does it say in Ecclesiastes 1:4 that the earth will stay forever? Just by itself? 😆 there are more bible verses that the earth will remain forever, with people living on it (paradise-earth like it was intended).
Add to Blake question: if he chooses not to be saved, then why is he the one being judged, if we’re not supposed to judge others then why are we being judged so much by others or god.
The Bible never says “don’t judge.” And stops there friend. Manyyyyyy people assume that - or use that as justification for not taking accountability. But It’s says in Matthew 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged. 2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. 3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? God is perfect . Blameless . Sinless. Holy. And Sovereign so he has all the rights to judge. Also consider, we hire / elect judges right. If you ever sued me for damage to your person or property , would you not want a righteous judge? Humans can be fickle and mean and selfish at times, we have all done this . That’s why 1. We judge (too)harshly and sometimes hypothetically. 2. Why we need Jesus and that higher moral standard to live by so we can be better.
First,..two great questions. For the first one I think it's important for us to remember that "sin" can most simply be defined as disobedience to God. When God gives us free-will to choose He goes to the extent of allowing us free reign to even choose to believe He exists or not, He does not limit our choices and therefore does not limit our choice to disobey Him. For question #2,.. where in the Bible does it say we didn't choose to exist?
Yes mankind wants to live. But in their own way. Which because men direct their own paths which leads to a sad end. Just seeing how people are today makes me think man if we just all Love are neighbors and responded respectfully to one another like scriptures shows us it would be an amazing world.🙂👍
He gives you the choice to not be with him, but if he tells you one is an eternity of hell and the other is eternal happiness, is he really giving you a choice? Freedom does not exist outside of the principle and the laws God set. So, the only real choice God really is giving people is the choice in how they find God. Also, since God predestined that all men will find God, ultimately, you will find God and he will wait until you willingly choose God. A billions years means nothing to God, he has already waited longer than that. He is timeless. See, the only purpose of people to exist is to bring joy to God. Everything else doesn't matter. You can hate God now for whatever resentment you have. In the end it will not matter, it will simply only take longer.
@@toxic-skeptic Mankind never find The Maker of Heaven and Earth Remember what the Messiah said John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. I know you hope that all people will make it in the kingdom but there is a time for everything and the time of judgement will come there will be those who will die for eternity and Those who have eternal life choose this Day who you will serve. Not just by word but by actions.
@@ThinkToknow-nh9wp I don't believe in a God that will ultimately keep people in hell. Eventually all people will return to him. It might take a billion years, a trillion years, eventually there should be no man left in Satan's domain.
I used to have questions just like this in the past as a believer. When I finally realized they don’t matter because I have faith in Christ, following Christ got a lot more enjoyable
I remember saying to my parents after getting in trouble for being an a-hole kid that I didn’t ask to be here. Their collected responses were that God put me here bc He gives us purpose. He loves me beyond my earthly existence
Once this life is over we will have the knowledge of how much not believing Gods words hurt us. So when we are in his presence and finally see him in all his Glory we will not want to ever be removed from his presence again. And the deceiver will not be there to lie to us and tell us we don't have to believe what God said.
Have you read the Silmarillion? The way Tolkien talks about and describes Melkor/Morgoth as he distances himself from Eru and goes into the void by himself resonates greatly with this question about Satan and the angels distancing themselves.
Thanks for this video. Has helped me grow and thanks for explaining the fact that it's through our union in Christ and because of him that we will not need nor want to sin in heaven thus being the difference between us and Adam and Eve. Really helpful, thank you.
So question. I get that in heaven we’re not going to sin and it’s because of the marriage with Christ like he said. However, I’m walking with Christ now and I can’t stop from sinning the same stupid sin. I understand the difference right now is that I’m in my human body which has needs and desires and my body will be new and holy in heaven, but if I can’t stop sinning, even though I pray for help to not sin and not be tempted, what’s gonna stop me in heaven? Will it be because I will have seen God and his full glory and presence at that point because I have not now as a human?
You .. can .. stop. Especially if it’s a sin you are very aware of. You may , like many of us , lack discipline. Or you may have a legit addiction. Therapy , honesty, fasting , and prayer works. I need all of that too tbh. Philippians 4:13 “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.” Take it one day at a time. It’s the same sin… you know the traps and triggers . You know satan hates you , you know your flesh wants to gorge itself on darkness ..so that’s actually a cheat code! You know what to avoid and what to “starve.” If professional help is needed - go! Keep asking God for the wisdom and strength. I love you, let’s let God free us from these same cycles.
Good answer on the first question, insufficient answer on the second. Ive struggled with this all my life, and the doubt that it holds on me keeps me from being all God wants me to be. I guess ill keep looking for an answer though i suspect there isnt one.
Did God know from all eternity that he would regret his own choice to create mankind (Genesis 6:5-6)? If so, then God is like the stupid teen who already knows she will regret going to next Friday's party, but goes anyway.
There is a verse in the Bible that calls some angels elect, so that means that God’s grace was working to save some angels. Although they cannot be redeemed, God’s grace apparently can prevent them from sinning.
Not sure his last analogy works for the question. The question is more you have parents and they tell you to obey them in all things or else they will torture you. Or if you don't worship them, they will scuttle the boat. Or course if you have no choice, you might take the safeboat, but you will want to get away as soon as possible and certainly won't be grateful or love them because they don't deserve it. But the meta question is if someone tells you they are your real parents and ask you to be grateful to them otherwise they will torture you unless you give them everything you have. I think most people would move away from those people that act like bandits. If that's his answer, it's probably the result he will get. If he does not see the moral problem, he is blind.
Well no one should preach that bc that’s not what God said. But I know that’s how some view it and teach it . Hell is a consequence . His analogy works fine. Bc that’s how it’s written in scripture . It’s the getting people to realize they are actually drowning that’s the hard part. The Bible also explains who the “parent” is and how Good He is has been and is and what awaits them should they choose to be adopted.
God wants us all to be saved, but... for those who don't, he still loves, and gives temporal pleasures, that they might have these things for a season at least. It really comes down to a matter of, do you want very temporary instant gratification, or unbelievably extreme delayed gratification? But because of God's love, and the natural dynamics of good and evil, even the temporary pleasures grow sour, and end in destruction. This is to guide us towards the light, to him, that we could have life more abundantly.
I love how Frank takes science and the Bible and cross them to prove each other. A lot of times it will seem like science and the Bible contradict each other but he puts it in a way that shows that they actually support each other.
Turek's apologetics is considered kindergarten by most counter-apologists. I'm an atheist and I find nothing he says to have the least bit of evidentiary force. The fact is, the vast majority of atheists and skeptics who confront him during these question and answer periods are asking questions that are, quite literally, Sunday school stuff. Turek always leads away from the argument to preaching to the choir. He acts like God's perfection and love are no less obvious than trees.
@@Mr.Sprockets I would ask whose burden it is to designate the audience of the NT: Is it my burden to show the NT doesn't apply to unbelievers today? Or is it Turek's burden to show that the NT DOES apply to unbelievers today? If the latter (which is consistent with his repeated assertion that the claimant always carries the initial burden), then Turek will not be able to persuasively broaden the intended audience of NT authors and story characters beyond the 1st century contemporaries they were obviously addressing, i.e., when I refuse to bother with the NT on the grounds that no case can be made that anything it says was ever intended for anybody living in the 21st century, I'm not violating any canon of common sense, historiography, or hermeneutics...and therefore such refusal cannot rightly be labeled "unreasonable". So the more Turek thinks his bible condemns 21st century unbelievers who knowingly reject the gospel message, the more he proves his own unreasonableness.
@@Tom-j4v7f Very good question! You are not alone. Many people have asked the same thing because it's a good question. The New Testament's intended audience is actually irrelevant. The entire point of that part of the Bible is to address the way of living after Christ's resurrection. The principles the book addresses are that of sin and what to do with life. Yes, society has changed but the underlying sin in it has not and the way of living the books address still apply because they were written to address the problem that has always been there. If there is truly an all knowing God why would he write a book with the principles that it includes that is only true and relevant for a short time?
The 2nd one.. being here, already here.. the thoughts of I didn't choose to be created thought is completely cause bg the devil, instead we must think of our purpose..
God Creator did not create sin; He created a human with a will, and it was then, when sin was made. Blessings! Enjoying your video’s from the S☀️NSHINE State, Florida.
Love these vids. Putting some thoughts with this topic: Sin is the absence of God. It is choosing that which opposes Him. So God did not create sin. It is darkness. Darkness is what happens with no light. We did not ask to be born: good point. Death is the wages of sin not eternally being tormented. We do not have an eternal existence without the resurrection to Life. Otherwise the second death for those who say no to Life/salvation/Jesus.
I appreciate what the Dr. does and says most of the time, but I would question the assumption that says people will live in a new physical world as being the promise of Scripture .
Clarity came to me on this topic when I heard someone say God created the possibility of sin when HE created free will in us. It is a by product of free will. 👍🏼
As for the answer to the second question, just brilliant. As for the first question, consider the following. The Bible never speaks -- nor could it -- of the image of Christ being formed in angels, however that is precisely the mission of the Holy Spirit in this era: to form the Lord's image in us who believe. So the first question that was centered around "in heaven" e.g. if Satan sinned "in heaven" why not could we sin once we get there? Answer: Satan never had the image of the Holy Son of God formed in him, we, by the pure grace of God, yes! That is why we will be delivered of the possibility of sinning.
WHAT KIND of PERSONS are CHRISTIANS and FANATICS of RELIGIONS? ANSWER - Mormons, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to hate Jesus Christ and reject his Biblical authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" and believe instead their LIES and UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation" are obviously the liars, traitors, cruel, merciless, and deceitful persons on earth who are not worthy and deserving of GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings and death but worthy and deserving of their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever like Adam and Eve..... never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth. WHAT is the WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of JESUS CHRIST to imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings? ANSWER - Jesus Christs KNOWS that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who honor and obey him as the One given by GOD all authority in heaven and on earth and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead" as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26 are clearly his loving, kind, and respectful Followers on earth who are not worthy and deserving of humiliations, degradations, insults, mockeries, sufferings, griefs, and death but worthy and deserving of the loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without LIARS, slanderers, perverts, traitors, and murderers as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8. HOW WILL FOLLOWERS of JESUS CHRIST LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER if they just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths? ANSWER - GOD KNOWS that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6 but he knows too that he will not let Jesus Christ's Followers and all loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever, instead, in the right and proper time, he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom and fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
For the first question (1:55), Frank says, “We don’t really know - the Bible doesn’t tell us.” Kudos to Frank - that’s really where answers to questions like these need to be left. And although I sincerely appreciate DDW’s apologetic reflection (the marriage reminder resonates and helps my journey), the fallen Angel stuff appears fantastical; stories made up by a population to help guide our evolving sense of morality. It’s served an important purpose but only takes us so far.
I don't agree with that. If people that were once in heaven can fall into sin, then how are you save if you enter heaven. There is still a chance of you sinning the presence of the god. It is a good question one that Franks fails to answer.
@@joeleniola9140 angels and humans aren't the same. the bible alludes to the fact that we will be above the angels when resurrected. it also tells us that us as humans mostly wrestle with sin because of our flesh. The spirit is willing but the body is weak. so when our flesh is no more, our desire to sin will go away with it. currently in our bodies it feels good to sin because it is the nature of our flesh. this is why we are seen as enemies of God. because we actually take pleasure in doing what he doesn't like, it's a desire we have naturally. in our new bodies it won't feel good and we may have the option to, but we genuinely won't want to. walking fully in his spirt means that what is displeasing to God will now naturally be displeasing to us.
@@brolylegendaryssj I hope you know you are saying gibberish. Obviously, humans and angles are different. The angels are spirit just like God and we will be too in heaven. right? If those that once spirit can still sin, then that is a problem. If those in God's presence before had sin, then we can all sin in heaven. Lucifer, Adam, and Even they did not even know what sin is and they sinned. My point is that being in God's presence does not mean you will not sin in heaven. It does not make any sense, but that is expected since it is man-made fiction.
@@joeleniola9140 You aren't reading my answer fully. And I see you are confused by what I'm referring to by the spirit of that scripture so I'll refrain from using it again. You think I'm saying we are different than angels as in just right now. I'm saying after resurrection we will be different from angels too. We will be above the angels. We aren't going to become angels, we will be above them to the point where we can judge them. We are coheirs to the kingdom alongside Christ. We will not be the same as the angels. Adam and Eve did not have to know what sin is to sin. Just like you don't have to know what a crime is to commit one. But that's not the point. The point is about them being tempted. You are tempted by things you have an actual desire for. If neither of them wanted to go against God or be like God themselves then they couldn't be tempted in the first place. The point that you are missing when reading is the lack of desire. We sin because we have an actual desire to. Our new bodies will not have this desire. Meaning you CAN sin but simply don't WANT to. Everything in your body will be completely against it.
@@brolylegendaryssj Will we be spirits in heaven? If the answer is yes then I am saying that we can still sin. Not only that we most likely will sin. This is based on the angels sinning before. The angels worship God and they know of hi glory and all. Lucifer was well aware of this why would he sin? When we get to heaven we will also be able to see God's glory but we can still sin. I point out Adam and Eve because they good and they did not know what sin is. You cannot say lucifer, Adam and Eve were jealous because they don't know what that is. This is where it all falls apart. It is either God created sin which is what make sense to me. The other option being the devil or sin created sin. This is not possible because the idea of sin was not known to those in the beginning except for God. They cannot sin because sin did not exit to them. The sin Adam commits was disobedience but he does not know what that is. He can't know what that is. Only God knows that. Him doing it and never being inform by God that it is a sin shows God was okay with sin manifesting. He was okay with it because he made it. Sin was an option because God made sin. If my mom cooked and I see rice, I cannot just eat chicken unless she made chicken. This is just my thoughts on Christianity. I don't believe any of this exists because there is no evidence for it. I am just pointing out that even if it does it does not make sense.
Lots of mystery in that first question. What is it about us that we can’t possibly worship God unless God sends His Spirit to open our eyes to truth…yet even when He does that for us, we can still say ‘no thank you’ and continue in our sin. I suspect that ‘free’ piece of us is very similar to what all angels have, including Lucy, who stood in the presence of God yet ultimately made the choice to embrace pride. I think what we can say for certainty is that neither Adam and Eve, nor angels, have had what believers will have at the end: The full Christ-exalting, gospel-applying, new-covenant fulfilling, Satan-defeating, sin-rejecting power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
I have a hard time with these questions as well. How are we supposed to understand a being that created DNA? Or the countless things in the sky? The same with the question: Did Uncle Bob go to Heaven or Hell? I don't know! I'm having a hard enough time keeping myself low on the sin-scale. But... I like hearing how how to answer these unknowable questions.
As I understand what Paul was saying: “sin dwells in me, that is, in my flesh,” [Romans 7:18-23] this is what explains it. The fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was eaten by our first parents. It had a physical effect… their bodies were changed from glorious - brilliant, dazzling, glowing heavenly creatures - to shameful people aware of their own nakedness! The fruit’s effect is still operating in our flesh… we are subject to aging, open to attack by bacteria, viruses and other degenerative parasitic organisms and we have no defence mechanism against them. Jesus was not like us… he was unafraid of contracting leprosy - He removed it from affected people with His touch! He had no sin in His flesh… He was not a son of Adam… only a son of Eve. We are all in Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:21-22 For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
Hey Brandon, I know it's a long shot but I started making Bible study videos and would love for your input on them. I've been a massive fan and hope you might remember me. God bless brother and keep up the great work.
We will worship perfectly... we have his word written on our hearts...it will be the only thing we need... it will shine thru...we will know it by heart, so to speak... and live it out. Everything we knew would be erased from our hearts...it is idolitry...our first born...first car etc. will be gone, and a pure heart filled with his word!
This is really good, I like Frank, I like the question about ,we didn't choose to be created. Does anybody know where this would have taken place? There's no description?
I too am glad for Jesus and God being who He is, able to keep His promises. No matter how bad or good life gets, God through belief in Jesus shall give us better leading into the best.
Modern temporal mechanics would simply say that the people who die "now" just uncouple from any connection to the dimension of linear time, and so they are "at" the Final Day already, but whatever.
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Greetings from a believer in the death - burial - and resurrection as the scripture states.
Warning: Tough subject.
When I was new to Christain gospel studies, the church asked me not to come back, because in my estimate "the one" us sealed believers should pray for 'once'... Lucifer.'
Truly, an enemy and, (prodigal son)? No befriending though!
Your nice reply?
Maranatha✝
Charlie Kirk next?
Some say that Satin or the Accuser are titles held by many demons.
dude seriously I said it before, please don't use keeps as a sponsor for this channel. It is literally against God's will. If God did no want you lose your hair you would not. I understand you need to make some money. I would disagree doing that with God's message, remember the pharisees, but at least don't use keeps as a sponsor not only is it annoying but is bothersome on a channel spreading God's message. Ask yourself would Jesus agree with sending that kind of message. Please rethink your sponsor, maybe look at Joe Kirby for inspiration.
Also I really don't know any other christian channel
that uses a sponsor apart from maybe trying to sell merch with bible verses.
You lost me as a sub
Are seriously finding this bs convincing 😂😂?
There’s a scripture in Isaiah 46:3-4 that says (Paraphrasing) God made us and He takes responsibility for us, from our mother’s womb to our gray hair. I am not sure if it’s for the Israelites, but as a grafted-in Gentile, I receive this comforting Word, He is my Abba, He made me, planned me, He will not abandon me, He will carry me throughout my whole earthly life to when I am in His Presence eternally ❤
Truth. Beautiful facts. ☺
Atheist do not believe in aliens, ufos, cryptid creatures!! I was on the Atheist Experience last month & boy they attacked me & did not let me speak much, they hogged the time to prove they don't excist!!
That’s beautiful! Thanks for explaining your understanding of this passage:
Isaiah 46:3-4
“Listen to me, O house of Jacob,
all the remnant of the house of Israel,
who have been borne by me from before your birth,
carried from the womb;
even to your old age I am he,
and to gray hairs I will carry you.
I have made, and I will bear;
I will carry and will save.
He made you and planned everything out you have no free will. Aka nobody has free will. As a result, everything you Christan say is evil is made by God. That is because he made us all and then planned what will happen to us all.
Thank you very much for the edifying information. God takes care of us till the time of death.
I asked God one day. If we are sinfull on this earth. What is going to stop us from doing the same things in heaven. He replied. In perfect love you can't sin. 😊
So God spoke to you out loud? What was his voice like?
It's a mans voice. Deep.. loving, knowing I was his child. It was a warm and happy feeling. He called me three times as a toddler. At the time I was with momma driving at night. I was two or three only barely able to make sentences. He was very loud and like a father. I knew it immediately as a man first. Then I asked momma if she said my name. Completely silence from her an a no. My father been out of my life since then and before. She was alone driving. I was in the back seat. I said ok afterwards. I never heard it again,nor did I chase it as I grew to rebel. He was male,saying my name as I was his child. So I responded. My name means favored and I am the tribe of Dan. @@markbyfield8190
Where exactly in Bible scripture does it say that humans go to Heaven ?
Sandra
Read Revelation 7:9-17
"In perfect love you can't sin."
-----------Then if God bestowed his perfect love on us living in this fallen world, we wouldn't be able to sin.
FINALLY!!!! SOMEONE ASKED THE VERY QUESTIONS THAT HAVE HARDENED MY OWN HEART.
And where these answers sufficient enough to soften your heart again towards God?
responded with responses to both the questions. I hope you'll be willing to read them... And through The Mercy of God open your heart again. I've had moments where I was hurt by certain ones who proclaimed Jesus... Luckely He called upon my life without any interference from Christians.🤗💯
God is not a man that He should lie 💝👍. I pray The Lord, through His Omnipotant Love, will enter your heart.
Within His Love for you, and from the bottom of my heart,honestly 💞 ; " May The Lord God through The Messiah bless you in abundance. For His Face to shine upon you and give you peace🕊️ Sincerely in Christ Jesus through The Holy Spirit 💖, in His service ✝️🌹,
@@a.deewai3181 thank you for your loving prayer 💗
Frank give a false narrative by comparing himself as a father to God as a father. Frank as a father is not omnipotent but God is. Frank cannot make children that will not sin but God can.
@@PaulPereira-l5q yeah I agree. The answer to that question just can't be found in this life time. Only life in eternity will we understand. Our earthly minds are so so limited and I'm sure God has done that for a reason. Guess that is a part of learning to TRUST God with our lives despite what WE see or think. 💗🙏
Children ask the best questions. 💯 no doubt about that.
Children ask questions relevant to their understanding same as mature intelligent adults, but my questions are deleted so explain that?
It's the flipped reasoning that God says "choose me or die" when what God really says is "choose me and live".
Live forever.
The irony of people selling their souls and chasing imortality in the name of fame when real imortality lies with going with God.
You exist. G-d offers salvation and eternal life. Your choice is to accept this gift or reject this gift. Pride causes people to reject this gift.
He supposedly created everything according to your beliefs but punishes you for not following his word? Yet he also created the opposite to tempt you? Again you hats with the narcissistic behaviour? Yeah I’ll choose a happy death if that’s the case
@lucasherbert2254 it hurts to see you in the same position I was in only years ago. I believe you'll be led out of your anger like I was.
Lets see whenyou really stand before god, if he exist, if you stand by your words 😁
I really enjoy your channel as you let the clip play before you break it down vs people who just interrupt the whole time. Keep up the great work and God Bless 🙏
I appreciate that! Thanks!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom This is one of, if not **the** most elegant channel I've found on YT.
Good bless, Brandon & keep up the great work!
Pardon me for interrupting, but you do know that this channel just lets you hear the bits that support his views 🐹
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom why do you keep deleting my comments, I said nothing offensive nor did I try to be inflammatory.?It's one thing to not like what I say to you, or people I might have mentioned, but to have the mere thought and act on the fact to delete entire conversations I have with others is just wrong one more then one level.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom What event happened first Satan first Sin or the Sin of Adam and Eve ?
It distills down to this:
Without free will there is no love. Forced love isn't love. God won't force us to love Him. In doing that He showed us His ultimate love.
Except unlike a bad friend or a lover, God will still chase us even if we don't want to love Him yet. He gives us the freedom to choose it or not but as we all know, you can't force someone to love you and you wouldn't WANT to make someone feel forced to love you either.
And “giving free will” means you can abdicate any and all responsibility.🐹
@@CR-yd4qeSo you would rather have God to force you to love Him? God cannot fail if He gives free will. He is not responsible for our sins. We are responsible for our sinful actions. God never forced us to sin, either. We are the ones who rejected Him, He never rejected us first. If a parent warns their child to look both ways when crossing a road, or else they get hit by a car, and the child grows older and doesn’t heed their parents’ warning and gets hit by a car, would that be the parents’ fault? No, it simply isn’t. God warns us that if we keep rejecting Him and His goodness, then we’re going to hell. That’s a fair warning. There’s always a consequence to our actions. It seems you don’t believe in consequences, and that people should just do what they want.
We don't choose Him still faith comes from the word ....so its still God who draws us to Himself out of mercy and love
@@katierucker2870 yes I take your point, your child doesn’t listen to you and j-walks without looking. Ends up in traction with multiple compound fractures 😢 You (the parent) visit your injured progeny and say “you didn’t listen to my warning so I’m going to twist your broken legs and cause you intense agony for eternity”. Great example of gods love, you’ve convinced me I’ll be in church tomorrow 🐹
In what universe does this make sense? I made you to love me but you can choose to love me but if you don’t I’ll punish you ? That’s your big revelation from this god ?
Please continue your videos. I pray that your videos reach people that need them.
What people really need is peace and happiness something your god even 2000 years later still can’t and has not chosen to provide.
Your commentary is so precious.
God bless your soul brother❤
I love that these questions are answered in a way that makes sense. I’ve never had these questions until I’ve heard them asked by other people
This guy Turek doesn’t know the Bible 100% that’s why he can’t answer adequately. If you want to understand GOD who HE really is I have some uploads on UA-cam 24 sermons each about 90 minutes . Explaining the whole Bible scenario, from Genesis to revelation.
This is sense ?🐹
@@CR-yd4qe yes it is, hope you find some one day!
@@bigmanting1874 I did (aged 10), saw the light. Realised it wasn’t for me🐹
@@CR-yd4qe so you didn’t get any sense then😂. Any normal person who has passed elementary school knows that life can’t come from nothing. Knowing this, not believing in God makes you nonsensical
I have two sides when it comes to my daily devotions. one side goes deeper, tries to gain the context, and look beyond the text. the other side enjoys reading the word without overthinking or overcomplicating the text. Over time, I am trying to find that balance between too intellectual for knowledge sake, and too surfaced where there isn't much beyond enjoying a "story."
WITW are you saying?
@@joeleniola9140 I am saying the Word is for depth of heart and soul, not just mind.
@@arthurcheater3359 I am sorry but what does that have to do with the video?
@@joeleniola9140 There are some deep questions about Satan and whatnot. Sometimes if we look for specific answers about matters that are really back burner issues, we miss the message.
😂 again WTF are you going about? I just live your life without religious constraints I guarantee you actually be happy not living with fear of disappointing an imaginary god who apparently already knows when and why you have failed him but let’s it happen anyway because for some reason he enjoys actually seeing it, maybe it looks better in real life 4K and his memory is still in 720p 😂
Isaiah 14 vs 12
The Fall of Lucifer
12 “How you are fallen from heaven,
O [d]Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
‘I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.’
15 Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol,
To the [e]lowest depths of the Pit.
Sounds to me like Cain.
@@victoriasalvant5629can’t be Cain, Cain wasn’t cut down from heaven, Cain didn’t weaken the nations, Cain did not say his heart that he wants to usurp God, those words only fits the anointed cherub , Lucifer himself
I have to say that I was very impressed with the video. Frank Turek, I watch quite a few times. I have not seen this video before and thank you for sharing it. Mayn GOD bless you, in JESUS name. Amen.
Obviously very little impresses you, much like many christians today 💁
Why are my comments constantly deleted? I’m not part of the narrative guess that’s why?
Daily dose you are awesome bro! Thank you for what you do!! 🎉
God bless Frank Turek and you too! You guys are a wonderful blessing!
Great questions and thanks for sharing. I had the same questions for a long time but never got anything close to answer til now after hearing this 😊I had asked the same question on the origin of evil and after awhile, I’ve concluded that much as we don’t know the origin of God, I think evil was always there and don’t think God created evil. But God is the key who holds everything together. Going from the saying darkness is the absence of light, one can see the importance of light appearing in the darkness. God creates order out of chaos and upholds everything good, he is the the corner stone, beam, pillar that holds up the universe earth heavens etc. The choice we are given is to be used to choose him. If otherwise, then one falls out of range of the light and into darkness and chaos one remains.
I have this question. Why did God throw Lucifer and the Fallen Angels down to the Earth when God could have thrown them to other planets, stars or galaxies and let Adam and Eve be freely given the test to see if they're personally obedient to God.
@@sootuckchoong7077Who would have tempted Adam and Eve to see if they’ll disobey God?
If evil has always existed then God is evil since He’s the only eternal being.. Evil couldn’t have existed with God because God is Holy, evil only exists because God created the possibility for it and He did for His own glory in the end.. That’s why in the new heavens and earth, there will be no more evil, God will wipe it out with the possibilities..
But who created chaos then?
Seriously need to ask deeper questions like these, it’s not a simple case of go left or right , there’s still up and down or inward and outward and that’s only our current understanding who actually knows how many other directions are possible.
Love your videos. They help me to think more critically as a believer myself. And can I say that I loved your response to the first question even more than Frank Turek's, all due respect to him of course. Us being IN Christ is the key to not following the path of Lucifer when in heaven, even with free will.
Until your not a believer you cat think critically, I’m convinced any religious person has never had an individual thought and I’m yet to be proven wrong
Great channel .... I read a chapter a day , to daily feed on the bread of Life....then from time to time at His choosing the Holy Spirit highlites a truth to show a deeper truth i had not seen before.
A young man said to me some years ago I never told God to make me , I took it he was asking why did God make me which i thought instantly was a fair question and also pretty much straight after this is what i believe God had me ask him . Me : When you make a sandwich what do you like on it ?
Him : Peanut butter
Me : Why ?
Him : Because i like peanut butter
Me : Ok fair enough
Me : If that sandwich could talk and said to you , Why have you made me like this , why didn't you make me a jam sandwich instead ? What would be your reply ?
He didn't reply but the look on his face said it all , the penny dropped..... For us both . 💯❤️☝️🙂
But if your imaginary sentient sandwich said “I don’t want to be grilled for eternity “ just because you made me doesn’t mean I have no rights. This kind of philosophy was where the idea that wives and children are property comes from. “I made you therefore you are my property”. 🐹
@@CR-yd4qe fair point, and it does show how all analogies ultimately fall short. I think the better (but still not perfect) analogy than a sandwich is a young man who sees a beautiful woman that he wants to date, but she refuses. He tries to woo her, but ultimately she says, "No." What is the man supposed to do: force her to love him? Such a thing is not possible! No, eventually after she rejects him enough he will stop trying to form a relationship with her.
God made human beings to share his love with them. Some human beings refuse to partake in this. Being out of God's presence is what Hell is. It is described as "the outer darkness....a place where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Btw, the sad truth is that if there is no God, then there is no purpose or right to life: we simply poof out of existence. No one has an inalienable right to anything.
@@sidwhiting665 as analogies go I prefer your first one. The girl has every right to reject the man’s unsolicited advances, should he then have the right to have her shunned from her family and if l continues to reject his demands condemn her to everlasting fire?🔥. He sounds like a stalker to me and a court would take a dim view of his obsessive behaviour. 🐹
My reply would of been:
I made the sandwich with peanut butter because I created it with my vision of true culinary perfection.
I wouldn’t have the peanut butter sandwich altered, mixed, or tainted by the jam.
The Peanut Butter sandwich doesn’t need the Jam in order to be beautiful or wonderful in any way.
The Peanut Butter sandwich is divine, perfect, delicious, and remarkable all by itself.
The Peanut Butter sandwich never asked me to make it.
The Peanut Butter sandwich might not have even wanted me to take it.
However, I made it anyway out of love.
I believe the Peanut Butter sandwich is remarkable and I wanted to share how remarkable it is with the rest of the world.
The Peanut Butter sandwich may not even realize it, but a world with out it would be a sad world.
The existence of the Peanut Butter sandwich will have a far reaching impact on the world then it will ever know.
An when the Peanut Butter sandwich gets sad that people don’t want to eat it due to being allergic or due to them wanting to eat Ham sandwich or Tuna sandwich.
In those moments of sadness, That is when I love the Peanut Butter sandwich even more.
My love for it is unwavering because it is special to me.
Yeah, I think that is my answer to the question.
@@XPLAYERJX just a guess, but I suspect you have even less to do at work than me🐹
Thanks my brother Frank is awesome, I always find myself using Franks little story’s to help the unbelievers God Bless
Statements that are made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.🐹
Why would a god create a system in which your very soul is at stake and wants you to make that decision without evidence but faith? Faith is an unreliable pathway to truth.
There’s overwhelming evidence bro. Just take a look around you. Sadly sometimes no amount of evidence can smash that horrible pride attribute that most of us have. Have a look at the video on the evidence for the Red Sea crossing and The mountain inside the Ararat mountains that’s been scorched at the top. If they don’t at least start you on your journey to want to know the truth sadly no amount of evidence will. God Bless bro
thanks God for doc's explaining about creating me on this earth..sometimes that question pops up in me. i didn't choose to be here.. but God gave a way.. truly, God will make a way to understand.. to God be the glory.
It truly is a remarkable guess by doc.
OMG, he did not answer the question.
@@joeleniola9140 what question he didn't answer?
@@tomdavid952 The second one, but the answer to the first is also not good. I will say he bs the first question and did not answer the second one at all.
@@joeleniola9140 He did answer.. i did not choose to be created is like blaming God for this sinful world.. creating someone and force to obey God or else they will die. We have freewill, choose life or death. When God created us, He provides everything.. but many rejected Him. We cannot blame God for our sufferings, loneliness and death because He provides a way. He provides the knowledge to understand truth. He provides everlasting life. He gave us His son. The only reason why we asked this questions, why God created me is because of sufferings, sickness and death. We try to blame Him and that's what this enemy wants to insert in our mind. Did God failed His children? Instead of complaining, we need to give thanks and worship Him because He created us and provides every thing we need.. not what we want or like in this world. We cannot be satisfied on this world. The power, wealth and strength will ends but His promises if we only obey never cease.
in short, God provides our NEEDS not what we want. We need to be content of what we have because everything here is temporar. God bless you.
Recently discovered your channel and look forward to your videos. Thought provoking, at times emotional but always challenging me to delve deeper into my reason for being.
Much love from Ireland ☘ 💚🙏
Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment! So happy you're finding the content helpful. My last name is McGuire. We're originally from County Fermanagh, North Ireland! Good stuff!
I dig the mustache and backwards hat combo. Love your channel, God bless you brother.
Haha! Thanks brother
I think the stache makes him looks gay. Gives a Freddie mercury vibe. He’s still a good looking chap tho. (No offense Freddie). 😉🥰
I disagree about the Lip Sweater. I'm trying to bribe him to grow a beard, goatee, or shave it off before I subscribe, but it hasn't worked yet.
@@teeemm9456 lip sweater lol? Never heard that before.
that outfit appears conservative backwards - the insights are great
For the second question, I think there is a greater act of mercy and love by NOT creating humanity. If I knew that by creating one individual human would result in eternal damnation, I would never create humanity in the first place.
It's a good point. But I suppose God didn't create humanity in the first place with the intention of the possibility that they would suffer eternal damnation. That then leads to the question why did God not just start over?.. but I suppose the whole point of having humans and not pets is that we have free will and the capacity to choose Him or ourselves?
As much as I respect Dr Turek, he also didn't answer the implied sub-question the second question has, which is how can you settle all those who haven't heard of Jesus and therefore didn't have the ability to be saved? People were living and dying all over the world for thousands of years before Jesus, and in the years after Jesus, but before his word was spread across the world. It seems at surface level that those people are doomed for damnation and don't get a choice in the matter, which seems difficult to come to terms with.
100% agree with your point on the 2nd quesrltion. I was waiting for him to go into further detail, but he didn't. He missed the point of the question, imo.
So if you are in a burning building with your child and you are dying but you can save your child....wouldnt you save them? Point is...not every one wants to go to hell
@@everyhandlestaken what about John 14:16 though? Bearing that passage in mind, I interpret Romans 2:14-15 to simply state that people innately know God, morality and goodness. That's not necessarily going to get them into heaven.
It's a tricky question. Personally I settle it by saying that I cannot judge God's actions and decisions, and instead trust in His mercy, righteousness and love. Not the greatest argument to put towards a sceptic, however!
What is grace? Unmerited favor, goodness not deserved. Does God owe us grace? No, we have sinned and only deserve His wrath.
What does it say in Roman's 9 concerning Rebekah and the twins?
Romans 9:10-13 NASB
And not only this, but there was Rebekah also, when she had conceived twins by one man, our father Isaac; [11] for though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything good or bad, so that God's purpose according to His choice would stand, not because of works but because of Him who calls, [12] it was said to her, "The OLDER WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER." [13] Just as it is written, "Jacob I LOVED, BUT ESAU I HATED."
Romans 9:14-16 NASB
What shall we say then? There is no injustice with God, is there? May it never be! [15] For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOM I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOM I HAVE COMPASSION." [16] So then it does not depend on the man who "wills" or the man who runs (works) , but on God who has mercy.
Read the next verses. He raised Pharoah up and hardened his heart so He could crush him and show his power. Cruel you may say, no. It's called justice. He sinned, he deserves hell. Just like the rest of us. Some God saves for His good pleasure and some He passes over. God can show off any one of His attributes when He pleases. He grants faith Philippians 1:29 NASB
For to you it has been granted for Christ's sake, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake. He also grants repentance.
2 Timothy 2:24-26 NASB
The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, [25] with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, [26] and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will. God lets Satan blind the minds of unbelievers as a form of punishment and God hardens hearts for the same reason. Satan is God's puppet on a leash. Satan means it for evil and God means it for good to get the most glory. If you think this life is about you and your so called free will, you are sadly mistaken. It's all about God's story and glory.
Psalm 115:3 NASB
But our God is in the heavens; He does whatever He pleases.
Jesus suffered God's wrath for the ones that were chosen. The ones who would repent and believe. I have shown you both are a gift from God the sinner contributes nothing but sin which even God is in control of. What is your favorite food? Was you born and told yourself your favorite food would be pizza or tacos? No, God chose those and works out the sin you commit in such a way that His goodness is not tarnished. The removal of grace is where sin comes in to play. He does not owe us grace and can use it how He pleases. I hope this helps the people who read this understand God better.
Oooh! Don't ya just love it when people ask the tough questions? 👍😎
For the second question, I think an important other thing to add is that Hell is not a punishment, Hell is a consequence of your choice.
Was fortunate enough to have Frank Turek speak at my church this past weekend. Overall, good foundational knowledge
I am kind of jealous. Also, frank has no foundational knowledge of any kind. You don't need it when you bs as much as he does.
@@joeleniola9140 And what are you refering to?
@@scottm4042 he bs the first question and did not answer the second
@@joeleniola9140 The first question was actually a bunch of questions, about things that the Bible doesn't specifically answer. So, his answers are not bs, they are more theories, based on possibilities to be true. Like asking what is heaven like. We can tell some things that the Bible makes clear, but without experiencing it, we can not say what it smells like etc. But, he did a good job, with the limited information that we have. To me, where did sin come from? God is a Person with a will. He can not be anyone else. When someone with a free will (satan) goes against God's will, this becomes sin. And if that little thing (sin) grows, it would create many that could nit dwell indefinitely in God's presence. If you were forced to live with someone who believed opposite from you, and taught others around him to also believe opposite from you. How long could you live in the same room? And because satans view would keep others away from God, and Goodness, it had to be punished (judged). To me, this makes sense. Cause, and effect. What a person sows, that he will also reap. If he sows good seed, he will reap eternal life. If he sows evil, he will reap destruction. And unbelief is evil (see Hebrews 3).
@@scottm4042 I don't think I can convince any Christian that according to bible humans don't have free will. I hope you can come to that conclusion, but I don't think I am helping in any way.
The answer to how long I can live with the person that has opposite view from me is forever. Though it will be stressful and annoying sometimes I will be okay with living with him/her. God on the other hand can't tolerate this, he did something a man would do. He basically deletes the rebels. No forgiveness, he just sends them into hell. This is the God you serve. You claim he is of love, but the same book you get this from says otherwise. Oh, he is forgiving, he is actually not unless you give him some animal or human blood. I can go all day about how this God is neither love of forgiving.
You are the reason I’m addicted to listening to Frank now. lol so thanks a lot :)
The book of Revelation talks about the new reality of Earth… the reality of God living with us. I believe that as humans, who lived in the sinful condition and consequent suffering, we won’t desire to live it again and out of free will want to live in God’s presence forever! 🙌🏼♥️
@clebermachado. Can you explain the Volition (free will) and the Temperament ( innate nature) that being will have in the new reality who will not transgress against God from being who were able to transgress in the present of God while they where in heaven.
Fabulous as always. For the 2nd question, I think of the analogy of someone wanting to eat glass. We try to tell them to not eat glass because our bodies cannot process glass. But they want to eat it and they did not choose this non-glass consuming body, so we should not encourage them to eat food. For me and my house, we choose food.
That’s unforgettable!
We are currently in the process, the perfect plan is unfolding to create the final product, we are not finished yet, we are in the "here and now, and not yet," so when we finite temporal beings look around at this we don't understand the process fully, but the Maker is working out His perfect process to make the final product
That's not consistent with the OT and NT commands to be perfectly obedient right NOW.
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I believe at the end of time whether a person is in the new heaven/new earth or the lake of fire. There is no more free will. Because our free will has already been exercised in our choices to follow God or not. So by the time your with God or in the lake of fire, your free will choice has already been expended, as you've already reached your destination
Analogy: if theres 2 doors, and you pick the left one. Once your in there you no longer have the choice anymore. As its already expended.
At the beginning of time you have the choice to choose your destination.At the end of time you have reached the destination.
Beautifully said
That’s interesting!
I think We will always have free will in heaven friend . Bc we will always have love. We won’t be robots.
Hell- there is so much pain/ anguish / separation from God your free will is useless . you CAN’T do anything else but wish you would’ve listened.
Heaven - there is so much love / peace / joy/ Glory you won’t want to do anything else but live and praise God bc you will have all you need . Always fulfilled . Never lacking . Surrounding by more love that we can fathom.
God is good!
Great questions and great answers
The ego will do anything to survive and can make you believe anything.enter this guy.
I'm so thankful for your channel and for Frank Turek!! Both of you gentlemen are AWESOME!! Thank you for everything you do for us! Much respect and support from Yuma, AZ.
Thanks Ryan!
@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Thank you sir! I always look forward to seeing your video's!
Awesome video. Your commentaries are always so helpful and solid!
Glad you found something helpful!
No they are not
@@joeleniola9140 you’re free to your own opinion. Thanks for sharing!
@joeleniola9140 Yeah I agree with you about that.
Hey Charlene. We shall be in the new earth for eternity, not heaven. It is good that repentance is available. We are going through tribulation right now, but the wrath of God will be poured out upon the wicked. We shall be caught up to meet the Lord Jesus in the air, go to heaven for the marriage supper, and return on white horses to reign with King Jesus for 1,000 years.
Jesus Christ 2024 ❤ that's what I vote for! No Man will save this world
Amen
The Lord God Almighty, Most High already knew us before we were conceived : of THAT importance you are !! Accept God's second Covenant through Christ. When He'll lead your way to your full potential and this question will fade away and become self-evident. 🎯💌.
My apology for this second answer apart from the first. My system mal-functions at times. Hence...
Just thought it was also an important one to answer.
God bless in abundance 💐. Sincerely,
heres a story back when u was 16 i cceoted jesus and i was so excited i was learning for a while then my dad got sickk i prayed and pryed for him to get better it never happend after that my faith was up and down diifferent things happend in my life that shaked my faith
Great wisdom most important thing is to study Gods word daily 👍🏻. Thanks for your channel 😊
AMEN!
Please do study the word and don't skip the interesting part either. The part where God supports slavery, wiped out the entire planet, did not forgave sin, and so on.
@@joeleniola9140 where exactly does this accure?
@@ADxtraIsHere You can do a quick google search for the slavery verses. The flood is what I was referring to as wipe out the entire planet. I was referring to Lucifer, Adam. Eve, the snake, Sodom, and all the other people that god did not forgive.
These are all the things in your bible.
This all show how the god of the bible is not loving and people that worship him should see that.
@@joeleniola9140 Where in the Bible does it say that God did not forgive Adam and Eve? And the people of Sodom were morally and spiritually corrupt, in direct defiance of God's will. Lucifer obviously wouldn't be forgiven because not only did he place his will, passion and desires over God's (essentially what sin is), he corrupted God's creation. God sent the flood to wipe out morally deficient people and saved Noah (and his family) because they were morally correct or (put another way) they're will aligned with God
Dude that boat analogy was maybe the best I’ve heard
I think, the underlying issue is, that you have to make an effort to get into the other boat compared to not being there in the first place and not needing to be saved and not having to make that effort, which comes with real life implications.
On the contrary:
If you are saved and get a pure new body free from sin in exchange.... I would prefer to have to make that effort.
The bigger question is why can’t I be on the shore looking at fools being in and out of the boat, some needing help and some not, just wondering why these choices are the only ones I have? What if I turn around and see the beach oh wow there’s a third choice I was never made aware of? Or I look beyond the beach and see lush grass and trees even a fourth choice now? I mean why are we even limiting ourselves to only two choices placed in front of us yet never bothered to look around
I am so glad this channel is growing so fast. One of my favorite channels.
Glad you enjoy it!
I'm so surprised so so many people on the world belive those legends as facts...
Patiently awaiting the day someone comes along and encourages healthy debate from both sides but as is always the case with this cult they parrot each other
Also notice how daily dose whatever only comments on those who praise him not those who challenge, only get silence on my comments that he actually allows. So much for debating when only positive comments are acknowledged
I love your connection to Marriage on the first question. It completely eradicates the idea that it would still be possible to sin in Heaven, Post-Second coming of the Lord. Wonderful video! God Bless
We didnt choose to be born but we can choose if we live forever. Thats an awesome gift.
I do not have enough faith to be an atheist. It is mind-boggling. How many hoops I would have to jump through to have no faith in God's existence. All praise and glory to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Yeah I'm not an atheist either. Because the truth is that God does exist but it doesn't mean that we can't have faith in him because we can have no faith in him.
@thefighter5182 atheist have to bend reality to come to the conclusion that God does not exist. Everything points to a Holy God and His creation. Jesus is 100% man and 100% God. That does not mean that 100% of God was in Jesus Christ. The human body would have no way of holding 100% of God. That is why Jesus prayed to God. All praise to the alpha and omega and the I AM our Heavenly father. Amen.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uAtheist don’t bend reality and most of us atheists are not making the positive assertion that there is no god. It requires no faith at all to be an atheist. I’m not convinced that a god exist a god could very well exist but I have no evidence of this being the case. It’s like court. If a cop arrested you for murder but presented the courts with no or insufficient evidence the court would automatically find you not guilty of murder due to a lack evidence. That’s what atheism is it’s the default position of disbelief in a claim until that claim has met the burden of proof. Hope this cleared things up for you.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uNope that’s not how that works as an atheist I’m not bending reality I’m examining the claims and seeing if they meet the burden of proof.
@@DonaldMarshall-k8uThats just your imagination.The most accurate position is agnostic.We dont have evidence for God, it doesnt mean that some Force didnt create universe/multiverse it just means that at the moment we are not able to prove it, just like we were not able to see cells under the microscope few hundred years ago.Nonetheless, case of God, dont help lies that are base of Christianity, Islam and all other religions.Simply its fact that it is utterly stupid to believe in "prophets", "angels", "hell", "heaven"...Those are human ideas which served to fill the gaps of our knowledge.The sooner you Christians, Muslims... rejecet stupid lies you believe in the sooner there will be established base for possibly factual God.If there is a God your religions just mock it by using lies and wishful thinking.That wishful thinking was justified to some degree 2000years ago, but at this point is just stubborn stupidity.
Amen. Thank you! Perfect way to wrap it up!
4:21 her question is sometimes called the paradox of choice. If I have the ability to only choose righteousness, do I have the ability to choose at all. If there’s only one option available to me, do I have any options at all. Here’s the funny thing about this paradox, by giving someone free will, God gave him the ability to choose to obey or disobey, the. Existence of free will create the ability to rebel, but you have to remember just because someone has the ability to rebel does not mean they have a right or a responsibility to it, and it does not put the rebellion on the creator or give her a free will because if it’s God’s fault, then the creature doesn’t have free will
The analogy I tell my daughters is to say it’s kinda like really ugly clothes. Just bc they make them doesn’t mean u should wear them. As teenagers, they full understand lol.
The Lord Jesus does have a free will. He chose and will always choose the Father's will, there is no way He can do different and yet He has his own will (see prayer at Gethsemane). When we "get to heaven", by the action of the Holy Spirit, we will have the Lord's character formed in us. So we will share His choice. There will be no way of choosing anything else, and yet, it will be a free choice. The love of God constrains us (2Co 5).
@@Prof.AguirreThat’s beautiful!
@@kymdickman8910 The
Lord Jesus is indeed beautiful!
When I choose the wong way, God eventually intervenes. Praise!
The parable about building on the rock or sand is great, because the consequences of doing the wrong thing is not a punishment, it just happens. Atheists often claim God is unfairly punishing people who simply just don't have any reason to believe in Him. Yet most often their poor choices are their own punishment. It is a rare thing for God to intervene and punish. He tolerates a great deal of wickedness before he does so. He is also merciful in punishment. It is never long drawn out though it may be painful. Probably, the Flood was the worst of all (evee God hints at this). One could conceivably have survived many days into the flood, or managed to stay afloat before drowning. Though I like to believe no one stood a chance against the raging waters and would have quickly drowned.
That analogy with the boat is epic!
Keep sharing these type of videos bro 👍🏾 Frank Turek is an awesome apologist 🙌🏾
Does he have any new videos, or interviews, etc?…
If he doesn’t I’ve seen several other apologists, do you have any new content apologists have made?
- God bless brother 🙌🏾
Thanks brother! I put up 4 new videos with me and Frank from a few weeks ago.. moreso in video podcast style.. but I’m always open to content recommendations. My email is in the info part of this channel 🙌
His podcast is awesome.
Frank just makes it up as he goes
Give it up, Ryan. Go back to your wh*res and weights.
I don’t think so.
Get over yourself.
Yeah, "ultimate heaven" seems like an ad hoc label. Frank is right that Jesus in the gospels is predicting a kingdom of God on earth. It gets weird if you try to reconcile that with other ideas in the bible.
Thank you for your videos. They really inspire me
Alright, I have an issue with people who die go and be with GOD? What I understand is when we die, as Paul puts it, we are asleep until the return of JESUS, so Mr. Frank states, they go be with GOD, all through scripture, it does not say that at all. Here is one of many, but this one is so very sincere, 1 Thess. 4: 13-18, says it all. So when we die, we are asleep and waiting for judgement to come. Praise GOD!!
I agree with you. When one dies they wait in the grave unaware (Ecclesiastes 9:5-6) of their surroundings like being asleep. Then they resurrect when Christ returns if they are in him
Then why does Paul say to be absent from the body is to be present with God? Also, why would Jesus tell the thief that he would be in paradise that very night with Him?
We were also fearfully and wonderfully made.
That means that through gods wisdom he knew that there would be the chance through free will that there could be the sin and evil that we face today and there would be many loss to sin.
But he also saw the absolute wonderfulness in those of us that are one with him through Jesus, he always new we would need a savior and that this savior would be a sacrifice that would be deemed enough by the father to exalt us along with Jesus to the right hand side of the father in righteousness for those who believe on the one whom was sent.
His pureness and love in the desire to have a relationship that was chosen by us to have with him was the drive for our creation.
I need to share something on the topic "I didnt chose to exist". My answer is: Maybe you did, maybe we all did.
This answer is my extension of an explaination I have heart on the topic FREEDOM OR PREDESTINATION. This theory moved the free will before our creation. God knows how we will choose, so he created our lifes according to our free will. Our entire life is created by our character and free will. God lets it happen. The ultimate connection of free will and predestination. Like parents who know their kid wont be perfect and they still create it, so God lets us live.
Back to the "I didnt choose to exist" dilemma according to this theory. I think, the soley fact that we exist, shows us that we wanted to exist. Maybe like God knows everything about us, he knew that we wanted to exist. He wouldnt push us into existence. I think the man in this video is happy to exist even if he talks that way. Maybe we decided to live and God granted us this gift. Maybe we did choose at some point that God can create us.
Interesting? Oh yeah!!
Wellll.....we all WERE the sperm that beat out 30 billion others to get to the egg first, after all...!😁
I'm not a Bible expert or anything, but I think you're right. I know the Bible says that we all existed before the foundation of the earth. I heard something, not sure where in the Bible, but about us volunteering to be on earth in his creation.
Your whole post is all speculation at the end of the day.
No one can choose to exist, since You have to exist to choose.
❤Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
His creation includes the universe of all space, time, matter, energy and life.
❤John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in
the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
❤What is easier to Believe? God...the Creator Created Creation...or...Nothing Evolved Everything.
NASA
The universe is everything. It includes all of space, and all the matter and energy that space contains. It even includes time itself and, of course, it includes you.
Bible
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind.
@timothytrudelle9245 I'm not exactly sure what your point is, but I'll just add that it's also about the source of all creation and how it got there.
Saying that the universe contains everything doesn't explain how it all got there, including the universe itself and even including existence as a concept.
Saying that the universe is everything isn't enough to justify atheism, because it doesn't explain much. It just explains WHAT is, not HOW it is or WHY it is.
I believe in God but I don't find the idea that God always existed any easier to believe that the universe always existed. When it comes to ideas about the nature of existence things start to break down and leave the realm of reason and expectation.
@almightyzentaco If God hasn't always existed, then there would be no existence, because there would be nothing to create God.
God is 'eternal,' because there has to be something before everything, but God himself acts outside of time, space and matter, which is what existence is. Space, matter and time can't create space, matter and time before space, matter and time have been created, and so God created space, matter and time.
We can't comprehend the nature of God, but him always existing is the explanation for everything, because if he didn't always exist, that means something was before him and would lead you to believe that there are an infinite amount of gods creating each other...which then leads to the same question of "who created the first creator?" God being eternal is the explanation.
@brads8350 I personally believe they are one in the same. The universe is "the word" of God as per its name and description. God is reality.
I’m a Christian but I’ve been doing a lot of critical thinking here lately and really challenging my faith, if it cannot stand what do I really have right? On that second question, with Frank’s analogy, it’s basically like “ believe in God or else” or “accept Christ or else “ or else what? The boat you’re in will sink and you’ll die right? Of course most people will get on the boat because they don’t want to sink or die. You could tell them to believe in the tooth fairy and they’ll probably hop on so they don’t die. Not really a good analogy. We apparently have a sin “problem “ that we didn’t create and we also did not choose to be born but the solution to the problem ( if you believe there IS a ‘problem’) is a solution in which you’re almost given no choice but to accept..if you want to ‘live’. On top of that once we become believers, we have Christ’s imputed righteousness which ‘makes’ us holy (in Gods sight) but it is impossible for us to actually BE “holy” in a practical sense, in this flesh, because of what we are at our core, sinners. Why would I ask or expect a dog to be anything more than a dog? Why would it be asked that anything be anything OTHER than what it was created to be? THIS I struggle with,…
I think your struggle is completely justified. I hope you find peace wherever you land.
Look up James White. Calvinism has answers to your questions
God has every moral right to decide how we live our life, And what the consequences are if we don't. God created the universe that we live in, God created the world. We live in, God created the animals in the plants that we eat to survive, God gave us a brain to use.
, he provides for us through the climate by sending the rain. And all the nutrients that we can gather to help sustain us. Is it too much to ask that we honor God with our, faith, worship, life?
@@roberteager2803 It’s not that “is it too much to ask” it’s about we were, without our consent, brought into this world with a propensity to “sin”. Then we are asked NOT to “sin”, when it is in our very nature TO “sin”. My question was simply why are we being asked to NOT be how we were clearly programmed TO be?
@@roberteager2803 Does God have the right to inflict pain or death upon us at will?
Hold on to the Rock in obedience 10:40 🎉 love you bud
I love Frank and I’m a big fan of his work. I find that it’s helps me tremendously…. I just wish that he would answer truthfully sometimes and say that he doesn’t really know the answer.
I find that he frequently avoids answering the question by deviating it to pre-existing clauses that are already made for similar questions.
There's also a fundamental paradox in saying, "I didn't consent to being created", as it assumes you were already created in order to give consent for your creation lol.
While that may be true, I don’t think that’s what question was really getting at. It doesn’t matter whether he actually prefers being created versus not, but, when your creator creates you and demands your unconditional love and worship otherwise damning you with eternal hellfire it begs the question as to why you would be created. An all knowing god also forces you into this position knowing fully what your ultimate fate will be.
I don’t think this serves to disprove the existence of a god, but highlights the nature of the Christian god from a different perspective. Paradox aside, if he had the choice to be created versus being forced into the proposition above, maybe he would have preferred not to be created.
Similarly, Frank’s analogy really does not line up with the situation that humans are put in if the Christian god is true. It would be more accurate if the people that were offering to save you were also the ones who threw you overboard to begin with. There’s just a bit of irony in that situation.
Well that doesn't sound like the Christian God at all.
First the Christian God does not demand our unconditional love. We wouldn't be able to give it in the first place.
Second the Christian God does not damn us to hell for not loving Him; He damns us to hell because we have committed crimes worthy of such a punishment. However unlike any human judge, God does not deal with us according to what we deserve because he gave His own Son the death penalty in our place so that we might be saved from our proper sentence.
WE are the ones who throw ourselves overboard, but it is God who does not deal with us according to what we deserve and begs us to take the life boat He has provided.
God knows whether you will or won't choose rescue but the choice is still up to you.
@@itzamedio5427that is a very good response to his question. Thanks for sharing that!
That makes sense. How can one not yet existing be able to extend or retract consent to come into existence? To be able to do so implies that one is already in a state of existence, even if it be "no-existence".
It doesn't matter if you didn't choose to exist but you can't deny the fact that we do exist. Because we wouldn't be having this conversation on UA-cam if we didn't exist at all. Because the whole no-existence proves nothing. Because you wouldn't say that The Devil doesn't exist if God exists. Because that would be an ignorant thing to say. Right?
God and hair loss ...Madness
Good video!! Got me scratching my chin a little. It's a good thing! 🤣
For me here is how I would answer it. You don't ask for a gift you are given a gift. What you do with that gift is up to you. God gave us the greatest gift life. I didn't ask for it it was given to me and personally I am grateful for it. Given a choice between life and never existing I will always choose life. I know I have not dealt with even modest hardship in my life compared to those of the past so you might think it is easy for me to say I choose life. However I have no doubt in my mind that those that live harder lives than I, receive all that much more joy out of the good times they are a part of. I think the vast amount of people would agree with me and say they would choose the gift of life, only the foolish would choose to never exist.
I have asked my "bible teacher" the exact same questions about 2 weeks ago and got an answer that makes now even more sense, especially because not everything makes sense what this guy said. Furthermore, according to him we all go to heaven. So what is the earth made for? Just to stay temporarily? Why does it say in Ecclesiastes 1:4 that the earth will stay forever? Just by itself? 😆 there are more bible verses that the earth will remain forever, with people living on it (paradise-earth like it was intended).
God gave us free will hence we can sin or not, and we are held responsible.
Add to Blake question: if he chooses not to be saved, then why is he the one being judged, if we’re not supposed to judge others then why are we being judged so much by others or god.
The Bible never says “don’t judge.” And stops there friend. Manyyyyyy people assume that - or use that as justification for not taking accountability.
But
It’s says in Matthew 7
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
God is perfect . Blameless . Sinless. Holy. And Sovereign so he has all the rights to judge.
Also consider, we hire / elect judges right. If you ever sued me for damage to your person or property , would you not want a righteous judge?
Humans can be fickle and mean and selfish at times, we have all done this . That’s why 1. We judge (too)harshly and sometimes hypothetically. 2. Why we need Jesus and that higher moral standard to live by so we can be better.
First,..two great questions. For the first one I think it's important for us to remember that "sin" can most simply be defined as disobedience to God. When God gives us free-will to choose He goes to the extent of allowing us free reign to even choose to believe He exists or not, He does not limit our choices and therefore does not limit our choice to disobey Him. For question #2,.. where in the Bible does it say we didn't choose to exist?
Where does it say we do choose to exist? Did I miss something and is this supposed to be a remembered conversation?
Yes mankind wants to live. But in their own way. Which because men direct their own paths which leads to a sad end. Just seeing how people are today makes me think man if we just all Love are neighbors and responded respectfully to one another like scriptures shows us it would be an amazing world.🙂👍
He gives you the choice to not be with him, but if he tells you one is an eternity of hell and the other is eternal happiness, is he really giving you a choice?
Freedom does not exist outside of the principle and the laws God set. So, the only real choice God really is giving people is the choice in how they find God. Also, since God predestined that all men will find God, ultimately, you will find God and he will wait until you willingly choose God. A billions years means nothing to God, he has already waited longer than that. He is timeless.
See, the only purpose of people to exist is to bring joy to God. Everything else doesn't matter. You can hate God now for whatever resentment you have. In the end it will not matter, it will simply only take longer.
@@toxic-skeptic Mankind never find The Maker of Heaven and Earth
Remember what the Messiah said
John 6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
I know you hope that all people will make it in the kingdom but there is a time for everything and the time of judgement will come there will be those who will die for eternity and Those who have eternal life choose this Day who you will serve. Not just by word but by actions.
@@ThinkToknow-nh9wp I don't believe in a God that will ultimately keep people in hell. Eventually all people will return to him. It might take a billion years, a trillion years, eventually there should be no man left in Satan's domain.
I used to have questions just like this in the past as a believer. When I finally realized they don’t matter because I have faith in Christ, following Christ got a lot more enjoyable
In other words, bury those questions down deep and don’t use your brain.
@@damienschwass9354 God bless you.
I remember saying to my parents after getting in trouble for being an a-hole kid that I didn’t ask to be here. Their collected responses were that God put me here bc He gives us purpose. He loves me beyond my earthly existence
Once this life is over we will have the knowledge of how much not believing Gods words hurt us. So when we are in his presence and finally see him in all his Glory we will not want to ever be removed from his presence again. And the deceiver will not be there to lie to us and tell us we don't have to believe what God said.
Have you read the Silmarillion? The way Tolkien talks about and describes Melkor/Morgoth as he distances himself from Eru and goes into the void by himself resonates greatly with this question about Satan and the angels distancing themselves.
Tolkien's writing is heavily influenced by his faith and the Bible which is why it's easy to see similarities in stories of both.
Brother great answer to the question about why we will not sin in heaven!! Completely agree.
Thanks for this video. Has helped me grow and thanks for explaining the fact that it's through our union in Christ and because of him that we will not need nor want to sin in heaven thus being the difference between us and Adam and Eve. Really helpful, thank you.
So question. I get that in heaven we’re not going to sin and it’s because of the marriage with Christ like he said. However, I’m walking with Christ now and I can’t stop from sinning the same stupid sin. I understand the difference right now is that I’m in my human body which has needs and desires and my body will be new and holy in heaven, but if I can’t stop sinning, even though I pray for help to not sin and not be tempted, what’s gonna stop me in heaven? Will it be because I will have seen God and his full glory and presence at that point because I have not now as a human?
You .. can .. stop. Especially if it’s a sin you are very aware of.
You may , like many of us , lack discipline.
Or you may have a legit addiction. Therapy , honesty, fasting , and prayer works. I need all of that too tbh.
Philippians 4:13 “I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.”
Take it one day at a time. It’s the same sin… you know the traps and triggers . You know satan hates you , you know your flesh wants to gorge itself on darkness ..so that’s actually a cheat code! You know what to avoid and what to “starve.” If professional help is needed - go! Keep asking God for the wisdom and strength. I love you, let’s let God free us from these same cycles.
Good answer on the first question, insufficient answer on the second. Ive struggled with this all my life, and the doubt that it holds on me keeps me from being all God wants me to be. I guess ill keep looking for an answer though i suspect there isnt one.
Also some people know some things ,some people know alot of things only God knows everything God bless all ❤️🌈❤️
Did God know from all eternity that he would regret his own choice to create mankind (Genesis 6:5-6)? If so, then God is like the stupid teen who already knows she will regret going to next Friday's party, but goes anyway.
There is a verse in the Bible that calls some angels elect, so that means that God’s grace was working to save some angels. Although they cannot be redeemed, God’s grace apparently can prevent them from sinning.
The question is not free will or not free will. The question is nature, desire, the driving power behind the will.
2 Corinthians 5:16-17 if we are struggling with sin. As well as 1 Corinthians 10:13. ❤
Not sure his last analogy works for the question.
The question is more you have parents and they tell you to obey them in all things or else they will torture you. Or if you don't worship them, they will scuttle the boat. Or course if you have no choice, you might take the safeboat, but you will want to get away as soon as possible and certainly won't be grateful or love them because they don't deserve it.
But the meta question is if someone tells you they are your real parents and ask you to be grateful to them otherwise they will torture you unless you give them everything you have. I think most people would move away from those people that act like bandits. If that's his answer, it's probably the result he will get. If he does not see the moral problem, he is blind.
Well no one should preach that bc that’s not what God said. But I know that’s how some view it and teach it .
Hell is a consequence . His analogy works fine. Bc that’s how it’s written in scripture .
It’s the getting people to realize they are actually drowning that’s the hard part.
The Bible also explains who the “parent” is and how Good He is has been and is and what awaits them should they choose to be adopted.
God wants us all to be saved, but... for those who don't, he still loves, and gives temporal pleasures, that they might have these things for a season at least. It really comes down to a matter of, do you want very temporary instant gratification, or unbelievably extreme delayed gratification?
But because of God's love, and the natural dynamics of good and evil, even the temporary pleasures grow sour, and end in destruction. This is to guide us towards the light, to him, that we could have life more abundantly.
I love how Frank takes science and the Bible and cross them to prove each other. A lot of times it will seem like science and the Bible contradict each other but he puts it in a way that shows that they actually support each other.
Science and religion are none compatible magisteria 🐹
Turek's apologetics is considered kindergarten by most counter-apologists. I'm an atheist and I find nothing he says to have the least bit of evidentiary force. The fact is, the vast majority of atheists and skeptics who confront him during these question and answer periods are asking questions that are, quite literally, Sunday school stuff. Turek always leads away from the argument to preaching to the choir. He acts like God's perfection and love are no less obvious than trees.
@@Tom-j4v7f ok, good point. If you were at the mic what would you ask?
@@Mr.Sprockets I would ask whose burden it is to designate the audience of the NT: Is it my burden to show the NT doesn't apply to unbelievers today? Or is it Turek's burden to show that the NT DOES apply to unbelievers today? If the latter (which is consistent with his repeated assertion that the claimant always carries the initial burden), then Turek will not be able to persuasively broaden the intended audience of NT authors and story characters beyond the 1st century contemporaries they were obviously addressing, i.e., when I refuse to bother with the NT on the grounds that no case can be made that anything it says was ever intended for anybody living in the 21st century, I'm not violating any canon of common sense, historiography, or hermeneutics...and therefore such refusal cannot rightly be labeled "unreasonable". So the more Turek thinks his bible condemns 21st century unbelievers who knowingly reject the gospel message, the more he proves his own unreasonableness.
@@Tom-j4v7f Very good question! You are not alone. Many people have asked the same thing because it's a good question. The New Testament's intended audience is actually irrelevant. The entire point of that part of the Bible is to address the way of living after Christ's resurrection. The principles the book addresses are that of sin and what to do with life. Yes, society has changed but the underlying sin in it has not and the way of living the books address still apply because they were written to address the problem that has always been there. If there is truly an all knowing God why would he write a book with the principles that it includes that is only true and relevant for a short time?
The 2nd one.. being here, already here.. the thoughts of I didn't choose to be created thought is completely cause bg the devil, instead we must think of our purpose..
God Creator did not create sin; He created a human with a will, and it was then, when sin was made. Blessings! Enjoying your video’s from the S☀️NSHINE State, Florida.
Love these vids. Putting some thoughts with this topic:
Sin is the absence of God. It is choosing that which opposes Him. So God did not create sin. It is darkness. Darkness is what happens with no light.
We did not ask to be born: good point.
Death is the wages of sin not eternally being tormented. We do not have an eternal existence without the resurrection to Life. Otherwise the second death for those who say no to Life/salvation/Jesus.
“ I form the light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, the LORD, do all these things.”
Isaiah 45:7
I appreciate what the Dr. does and says most of the time, but I would question the assumption that says people will live in a new physical world as being the promise of Scripture .
2 interesting questions everyone early on into Christianity might have or still thinks about.
Blessings to all
Clarity came to me on this topic when I heard someone say God created the possibility of sin when HE created free will in us. It is a by product of free will. 👍🏼
As for the answer to the second question, just brilliant. As for the first question, consider the following. The Bible never speaks -- nor could it -- of the image of Christ being formed in angels, however that is precisely the mission of the Holy Spirit in this era: to form the Lord's image in us who believe. So the first question that was centered around "in heaven" e.g. if Satan sinned "in heaven" why not could we sin once we get there? Answer: Satan never had the image of the Holy Son of God formed in him, we, by the pure grace of God, yes! That is why we will be delivered of the possibility of sinning.
WHAT KIND of PERSONS are CHRISTIANS and FANATICS of RELIGIONS?
ANSWER -
Mormons, SDAs, Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions in the world
who trick and deceive their own families and neighbors to hate Jesus Christ and reject his Biblical authority and teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
and
believe instead their LIES and UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
are obviously
the liars, traitors, cruel, merciless, and deceitful persons on earth
who
are not worthy and deserving of GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence on earth without sufferings and death
but
worthy and deserving of their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, just worthless and useless dusts on earth forever like Adam and Eve..... never to be seen and heard ever again on the face of the earth.
WHAT is the WORTH, VALUE, and IMPORTANCE of JESUS CHRIST to imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings?
ANSWER -
Jesus Christs KNOWS
that all imperfect, suffering, and dying human beings who honor and obey him as the One given by GOD all authority in heaven and on earth and put their faith and hope in his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
are clearly
his loving, kind, and respectful Followers on earth
who are not worthy and deserving of humiliations, degradations, insults, mockeries, sufferings, griefs, and death
but
worthy and deserving of the loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and EXISTENCE without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe and peaceful earth without LIARS, slanderers, perverts, traitors, and murderers
as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.
HOW WILL FOLLOWERS of JESUS CHRIST LIVE and EXIST on EARTH FOREVER if they just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths?
ANSWER -
GOD KNOWS
that all human beings will just become worthless and useless dusts on earth after their deaths just like the animals
as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6
but he knows too that he will not let Jesus Christ's Followers and all loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, Naomi, Ruth, King David, Daniel, and many others to remain as worthless and useless dusts on earth forever,
instead,
in the right and proper time,
he will let Jesus Christ RESURRECT them back to life so they can all happily and abundantly live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects of the "KINGDOM of GOD" or His Kingdom
and
fully enjoy his and his Christ's eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings for eternity under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as his Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth
as written in Revelation 11: 15.
The Will of Christ is Supreme.
Frank, you're a mighty man🔥.
For the first question (1:55), Frank says, “We don’t really know - the Bible doesn’t tell us.” Kudos to Frank - that’s really where answers to questions like these need to be left. And although I sincerely appreciate DDW’s apologetic reflection (the marriage reminder resonates and helps my journey), the fallen Angel stuff appears fantastical; stories made up by a population to help guide our evolving sense of morality. It’s served an important purpose but only takes us so far.
I don't agree with that. If people that were once in heaven can fall into sin, then how are you save if you enter heaven. There is still a chance of you sinning the presence of the god. It is a good question one that Franks fails to answer.
@@joeleniola9140 angels and humans aren't the same. the bible alludes to the fact that we will be above the angels when resurrected. it also tells us that us as humans mostly wrestle with sin because of our flesh. The spirit is willing but the body is weak. so when our flesh is no more, our desire to sin will go away with it. currently in our bodies it feels good to sin because it is the nature of our flesh. this is why we are seen as enemies of God. because we actually take pleasure in doing what he doesn't like, it's a desire we have naturally. in our new bodies it won't feel good and we may have the option to, but we genuinely won't want to. walking fully in his spirt means that what is displeasing to God will now naturally be displeasing to us.
@@brolylegendaryssj I hope you know you are saying gibberish.
Obviously, humans and angles are different. The angels are spirit just like God and we will be too in heaven. right? If those that once spirit can still sin, then that is a problem. If those in God's presence before had sin, then we can all sin in heaven. Lucifer, Adam, and Even they did not even know what sin is and they sinned.
My point is that being in God's presence does not mean you will not sin in heaven. It does not make any sense, but that is expected since it is man-made fiction.
@@joeleniola9140 You aren't reading my answer fully. And I see you are confused by what I'm referring to by the spirit of that scripture so I'll refrain from using it again. You think I'm saying we are different than angels as in just right now. I'm saying after resurrection we will be different from angels too. We will be above the angels. We aren't going to become angels, we will be above them to the point where we can judge them. We are coheirs to the kingdom alongside Christ. We will not be the same as the angels.
Adam and Eve did not have to know what sin is to sin. Just like you don't have to know what a crime is to commit one. But that's not the point. The point is about them being tempted. You are tempted by things you have an actual desire for. If neither of them wanted to go against God or be like God themselves then they couldn't be tempted in the first place. The point that you are missing when reading is the lack of desire. We sin because we have an actual desire to. Our new bodies will not have this desire. Meaning you CAN sin but simply don't WANT to. Everything in your body will be completely against it.
@@brolylegendaryssj Will we be spirits in heaven? If the answer is yes then I am saying that we can still sin. Not only that we most likely will sin. This is based on the angels sinning before.
The angels worship God and they know of hi glory and all. Lucifer was well aware of this why would he sin?
When we get to heaven we will also be able to see God's glory but we can still sin.
I point out Adam and Eve because they good and they did not know what sin is. You cannot say lucifer, Adam and Eve were jealous because they don't know what that is.
This is where it all falls apart. It is either God created sin which is what make sense to me. The other option being the devil or sin created sin. This is not possible because the idea of sin was not known to those in the beginning except for God. They cannot sin because sin did not exit to them. The sin Adam commits was disobedience but he does not know what that is. He can't know what that is. Only God knows that. Him doing it and never being inform by God that it is a sin shows God was okay with sin manifesting. He was okay with it because he made it. Sin was an option because God made sin.
If my mom cooked and I see rice, I cannot just eat chicken unless she made chicken.
This is just my thoughts on Christianity. I don't believe any of this exists because there is no evidence for it. I am just pointing out that even if it does it does not make sense.
Lots of mystery in that first question.
What is it about us that we can’t possibly worship God unless God sends His Spirit to open our eyes to truth…yet even when He does that for us, we can still say ‘no thank you’ and continue in our sin.
I suspect that ‘free’ piece of us is very similar to what all angels have, including Lucy, who stood in the presence of God yet ultimately made the choice to embrace pride.
I think what we can say for certainty is that neither Adam and Eve, nor angels, have had what believers will have at the end:
The full Christ-exalting, gospel-applying, new-covenant fulfilling, Satan-defeating, sin-rejecting power of the indwelling Holy Spirit.
I have a hard time with these questions as well. How are we supposed to understand a being that created DNA? Or the countless things in the sky? The same with the question: Did Uncle Bob go to Heaven or Hell? I don't know! I'm having a hard enough time keeping myself low on the sin-scale. But... I like hearing how how to answer these unknowable questions.
As I understand what Paul was saying: “sin dwells in me, that is, in my flesh,” [Romans 7:18-23] this is what explains it.
The fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was eaten by our first parents. It had a physical effect… their bodies were changed from glorious - brilliant, dazzling, glowing heavenly creatures - to shameful people aware of their own nakedness! The fruit’s effect is still operating in our flesh… we are subject to aging, open to attack by bacteria, viruses and other degenerative parasitic organisms and we have no defence mechanism against them.
Jesus was not like us… he was unafraid of contracting leprosy - He removed it from affected people with His touch! He had no sin in His flesh… He was not a son of Adam… only a son of Eve. We are all in Adam.
1 Corinthians 15:21-22
For as by a man came death, by a man has come also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
Hey Brandon, I know it's a long shot but I started making Bible study videos and would love for your input on them. I've been a massive fan and hope you might remember me. God bless brother and keep up the great work.
We will worship perfectly... we have his word written on our hearts...it will be the only thing we need... it will shine thru...we will know it by heart, so to speak... and live it out. Everything we knew would be erased from our hearts...it is idolitry...our first born...first car etc. will be gone, and a pure heart filled with his word!
This is really good, I like Frank, I like the question about ,we didn't choose to be created. Does anybody know where this would have taken place? There's no description?
I too am glad for Jesus and God being who He is, able to keep His promises. No matter how bad or good life gets, God through belief in Jesus shall give us better leading into the best.
Modern temporal mechanics would simply say that the people who die "now" just uncouple from any connection to the dimension of linear time, and so they are "at" the Final Day already, but whatever.