Arrogance is ignorance. This is what I run into every time someone opposes my testimony. People who have never read the Bible or studied theology that think their general knowledge is a good explanation for why God doesn't exist. Bro walked in like he was a theologian and had all the answers. I love him. The same way God loved me when I didn't want Him to love me and I overdosed twelve times trying to kill myself. All glory to God. Again you have outdone yourself brother 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
People of all kinds please state if you are christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics. #1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral? #2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child? #3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others? #4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it? #5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?
People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers.
@@dlsimmonsjr1 >>People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers."" Any view should have to provide answers. Can i ask if you can see my comment just above yours with 5 questions in it?
What's wrong with proud I'm a proud father and grandad W T F are you talking about being a good person is got nothing to with God and being a good human being is what it's about ya idiot
@justingary5322 May the Lord Jesus continue to empower you with the dynamite power of God the Holy Spirit to the glory of God the Father, my brother in Jesus.🔥
Romans 9:15-16 [15] For God said to Moses, “I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” [16] So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it.
And his children are dying in Africa of starvation and your god is salvation what about the abuse of children in the church its rife and you choose to ignore that clean up your god first and I might follow you
I just summon the atheism when I hear a Christian UA-cam channel is posting. Close my eyes in dark, silent room and just summon it. That's how it works.
Lol😂 It activates their atheism so they must drop absolutely everything they are doing to go debate against the existence of someone that they don't even believe exists.
It’s so sad because he has no need to fear….. well in his current state yes…. But if he knew the peace that comes from faith in Jesus as opposed to faith in ( ??? ) he would not be scared. The invested interest in disproving faith is something I always find so mystifying
I have zero respect for people who ask a question then repeatedly cut you off when you try to answer. They ask a question and there is only one acceptable answer to them and that is that you just agree with them. Once they sense there is a different point of view or an objection to the premise of their question they cut you off. This shows a weak mind that is afraid to be exposed to other points of view.
Yes he isn't asking the question because he wants an answer, he is just starting an argument trying to prove some point that he isn't even sure of himself in all reality.
Yeah. It's called being disingenuous. It's not asking in good faith. Oftentimes, it's nothing more than a repeated attempt to to make the person look foolish, rather than an honest inquiry into Truth or even to know what another actually believes. It's intellectually dishonest.
When Dr. Turek says things like “hold on nick hold on” I find it oddly respectful, because there’s a quote that says “never stop your enemy from making a mistake”, which is Machiavellian in nature. When Dr. Turek says to hold on, he’s trying to prevent the person from making a fool of themselves and being overly emotional and incoherent. He helps them to clarify their point, so as to help them facilitate an air of dignity. Dr. Turek doesn’t want to embarrass people or “gotcha” them. He truly believes what he is saying and is being as intellectually honest as I can tell. He always shows respect regardless of if a person’s mind has been changed, and doesn’t want the audience laughing at disagreers. True maturity and humility.
He also stops them because he has heard the argument a hundred times already, and wants them to get to the point so that the conversation can really begin.
Nick: *Shows up 70 minutes into a 75 minute presentation explaining his entire belief system* Also nick: i demand you explain and defend your belief system in its entirety while i interrupt, talk over you, and assert my opinions as widely known facts
Painfully obvious Nick isn't interested in the truth or an honest conversation. Doesn't want to hear what Dr. Turek presented, only might kinda sorta maybe read his book but only Dr. Turek re-reads Dawkins lol. Pray for patience with these people
@@Mr_FairdaleNick read Dawkins, and voila! An expert who parrots Dawkins. I had a back and forth with a guy who had only read Bart Ehrman, and he purported to be an expert on all things biblical, though it became painfully obvious that he knew very little. Typical modern “skeptic” of other peoples’ beliefs, but never one’s own.
They should be given time to ask one question at a time Once the question is finished, Stop them until you finished your answers. Otherwise they want to be overwise!
The biggest thing this student can learn from watching his own performance at the mic is how to listen. Such pride in his own intelligence! I don't think Turek completed more than 2 sentences in the 16 minutes. “Ego is the worst Master. Humility, the best teacher.” ― Andrew Pacholyk, Barefoot ~ A Surfer's View of the Universe
@@santiagorivas1950 how does he answer the question? He doesn't. He twists and turns and attempts to get the conversation on to a level where he can say something that sounds vaguely intelligent. His 4 tests for god are just...idiotic in the extreme...I mean 'can miracles happen, the greatest miracle already has'...he, without evidence, is stating his opinion as fact. Il ask you, assuming (perhaps incorrectly) you are a Christian or at least a theist...how do you know you are right? How do you know you just so happened to have picked the right version of the right god?
@JP-je6jg correct i am a Christian. I never said I WAS right lol but, if it is true I won eternity. If not, then you won am argument. (That's the answer to your first question.) And secondly, in bible, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15: 14. "And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." If jesus didn't really die and rise from the dead then we live in vain and everything we do is for naught. There's no reason to go to church or ask for forgiveness. It's the same in our brains. No one dies for a lie. Ppl could die for a lie they were made to belive is true but not a truth that is a lie. Got me??? (Saying it in a friendly tone.)
@@santiagorivas1950 That word, eternity...that's an awfully long time...what do we do in heaven?...ok what do people who go to heaven do? (No way I'd be going) ...is one lifetime worth an eternity of either punishment or reward? I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree. Why on earth would our lives count for less without god? I can still love and fear and laugh and hope as much as any theist. I still have dreams and aspirations. I can still be a good person and aim to make the world a better place. God doesn't have a monopoly on that, heck, id say the world can be moral in spite of religion. Why does Jesus having died for us make our lives worth more? I agree people wouldn't die for a lie...but as you point out, people will die for what they believe to be true, whether it is or not. Look at Heaven's Gate...or even any Islamist terrorist. They must believe in their cause, but presumably you, as a Christian, must disagree with them and think it a lie.
@@kos-mos1127 well technically if he wanted to point out that he was lying, he would have to actually hear the full answer in order to refute it. Refutation in this case doesn't exist though. He missed the majority of the presentation and then fired off one atheistic talking point after another without allowing a chance for an adequate back and forth. Even if he had a legitimate point, Dr. Turek was not given the opportunity to fully answer. That's not how it works on either side.
@@kos-mos1127it’s rude to interrupt someone answering a question that has been posed to them. It shows a lack of morales and etiquette, furthermore, it’s disingenuous. Also how can determine if it’s a lie or not, he wasn’t listening to the answer.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Imagine pulling up late, not even seeing the presentation, and then questioning the validity of the presentation WITHOUT EVEN SEEING THE CRITICAL POINTS!!! That’s insane to me
it's like he just heard the Leprechaun thing on TikTok or something and couldn't wait to parrot 😆 someone came at me with the exact same echoes in comments somewhere else 😂 the fact that they use something as ridiculous as a Leprechaun for comparison just shows their animosity towards Gods, because when you compare the gravity of the claims they are nowhere near each other 🤦♂️ last I checked nobody ever claimed Leprechaun's created everything, or gave their life for us, or that there's any possible way we should be accountable to them. it's as if the people who ask it this way think they're belittling God but it only shows how badly they misunderstand the question.
I wish all churches would open up their doors at least once a month to an open question and answers session like this. So people can air their views and gain understanding. I think that would break down the barriers between believers and non believers...
Do you actually believe that false teachers want to be questioned! Those false teachers that will allow you to question them already know that the person they are talking to have limited bible knowledge and will be easily duped!
I think that would be a horrible idea. Ever see those riots a couple years ago? Same maniacs destroying stores will be “the peaceful people just seekianswers”. Boom. Fights break out. Don’t fool yourself. Bad company corrupts good character.
Unfortunately, many churches these days...(at least in Western societies), couldn't debate this well for Christ. Markedly mega-churches who'd much rather hang an LBGTQ flag out front to "attract" followers rather than preach salvation and the grave dangers of sin.
Right like a paradox would be me being born only to grow up go back in time to create myself. This guy just thinks two color blind people looking at a tree one says purple the other says blue and then claiming either one of them is right and the other wrong. The truth how ever could be as simple as both are right or both are wrong and the tree is green.
I was raised in a loving atheistic family and only last year have my eyes been opened to the truth of the Word (Aleluia!). Been watching everything all you post, and I thank you (and all of your subscribers, me included), for the beautiful content. I think this kind of approaches are very helpful, not that my faith will be increased by it, but it's definitely inspiring to hear brighter and wiser people than me, explaining all the different facets of God's truth. I think all the proofs and evidences for the claim have been layed down before us during His-Story, there's only a small (giant) leap of faith required to feel how blessed we are. That's up to each soul individually, and is beyond logic or explanation. That's probably the reason why it feels so miraculous what happened to me, and to all of you probably too. It brought a new meaning to the expression "seek and you shall find..." Well... I've found you bro! Yah Bless 🙏🏻✨
So did you stumble upon this or another channel and become curious? Did you just decide to look into Christianity? Curious about what got you going in this direction. God Bless you!
I didn't find Nick's question too tough at all. It's a pretty popular one among atheists. When Nick asked his question, the first thing I would've said was, "Why are you asking?" This gets them to look inward and think or at least put them on notice that I've already put it through a thought process. I've heard a LOT of Christians that don't. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to atheist radio talk show hosts like Tom Leykis or Ray Taliaferro on KGO and their ilk talking to Christians who go to battle "in their underwear." When someone asks me a question, I don't just jump to the answer. Sometimes I don't answer at all because in asking why they're asking their question, I'm sussing out their REAL reason for asking, which isn't an actual answer, but an attempt to stump me or whoever they're talking to, in which case, they don't deserve an answer because they really don't care...they're just trying to trip YOU up.
Everybody has all the answers at their fingertips via the internet. Anybody that actually cares would have looked into it already. 99% of the time they ask questions as an attack, not because they actually want to know.
Yes, let’s pray for him today, in Jesus name, that His heart would be softened and that God would do whatever it takes for Him to come to know the Joy of the LORD 🙏❤️!
I'm coming into the Catholic Church soon, thank you for your work I love this! Channels like yours have played a huge role in my conversion this past year - I wish I could go up to each of you apologists and give you all a big hug. God bless you all :)
The catholic church shifts focus away from Christ and puts it on Mary. It's doctrines are unbiblical. You'd do well to steer clear. You can fellowship with Christians in your community without ensnaring yourself in falseunbiblical doctrines.
I feel so badly for you. The Roman Catholic Church is a manmade religious cult. It is not the ‘Catholic’ church that is a term relating to the entire body of born again, blood washed, saved to the uttermost, Christians. Please read your Bible. You will find many fallacies that underscore the fact that tge Roman Catholic Church can be nothing but a cult.
@@xyriusd832 yeah and Frank demonstrated how one can handle the adversarial (which is always gonna be there somehow) without getting own feathers ruffled. Being a peacemaker is a high calling 😉
every time, when so called 'intellectuals' ask about the right belief, there is a quote from NT, when Jesus said: in my fathers house are many flats. That means, all people with a good heart who try to be honest, helping and comforting others, living a life pleased to God would come into the fathers house once.
Lol I liked the part when he said he hasn’t read his book and wasn’t even present for the presentation/seminar, and then proceeded to disagree with him while not even understanding his position. It’s impossible to understand your own opposition if you do not even understand what it is that you oppose. In this particular case, the young man not only doesn’t understand, he hasn’t even heard what he has to say. Amazing!
He was coming into this saying "What proof do you have that you are right and others are wrong when they can point to just as many proofs as you for why they are right?" So the proofs this person gave at the beginning are just as valid as if a Muslim was up there giving proof about Allah. I very much doubt the speaker said why everyone else's proofs were wrong while his was right. For the math problem he quickly blew through it and if everyone at the table came forward with evidence to show that their answer was correct then he wants to know why that person's claim is more valid than everyone else's. A better example would be for this math problem "4x = y" what is x and y? He wants to know why this person is the right one when everyone else can come up with their own answer to show they are right.
When I first was saved I was wanting to share my new faith with family friends and work colleagues The heart breaking part was not that most did not believe but rather that even if I could prove that Christianity is true some people would still reject Christ Thank god that is not true of everyone who does not believe .!!!
@davidmccarroll8274 if Allah appeared and was exactly as the Muslims believed would you reject him? If a Muslim could prove their belief as being the 100% truth would you convert?
@@PhuckEwerself You will have to re think your question and ask it in a way that is in line with Islam WHY The Muslims believe that God is above us in a way that we are unworthy to meet him in this life and reject the idea that we can have a relationship with god in the way Christians do and therefore they would reject the idea that Allah would approach anyone in this life in this way !!!.As I have already had a relationship with the living God I have to reject the above Islamic attitude !!!
@davidmccarroll8274 So then you would still reject that belief if it was shown and proven to be 100% true. You are bad mouthing others for not following your faith if yours was 100% proven yet you wouldn't believe if someone else's was 100% proven.
Frank's book I Don't Have Enough Faith to be An Atheist is a really good resource that goes over all the evidence pointing toward God. Good wrap-up at the end of this video with the scripture from Revelation. Great job.
@nitsujism God gives us grace b/c we are human. Our flesh was/is tempted so he died for our sins so that we may saved from them. If you notice in the Bible satan/ other fallen entities don't get this same grace b/c they were not tempted and are not of flesh.
@@deontelipscomb5417 None of that makes any sense at all. Worse, it's immoral for somebody else to be punished for something you did wrong. It's simply unjust, barbaric, immoral. We wouldn't accept it in any system of court justice. Let's say I committed a crime and was found guilty in court and then sentenced to torture and death. Then let's say one of my parents stepped forward and said they'll take the punishment so that I don't have to. Is that justice? What does it say about the entity inflicting the punishment that it can vindictuvely torture and kill somebody who did not commit the crime? That it doesn't care as long as somebody gets tortured and killed? Even worse, let's say that it's the judge who set this law that decides to take the punishment on my behalf. Not only is that barbaric, unjust, vengeful and immoral, it's literally sadistic and insane.
@@cristineclingman8588 He's the typical Internet Atheist who just wants to win a debate. Most Atheists just don't care about supernatural anything and just live their lives not thinking about anything spiritual.
This young student is the byproduct of the “cultural confusion” promoted by the college professors who are far too intelligent for their own good! It very simple…..he can’t find God, the same way a thief can’t find a policeman!
Don't ever feel bad for being " preachy". The preaching you did was beautiful and everyone needs to hear this. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
I was thinking the exact same thing...Unfortunately, in this country, there seems to be somewhat of a "Stigma" when sharing, when we speak the fundamental truths of the Gospel. " He Loves us, He died for us, He wants to give us the free gift of eternal Life through Himself. It was touched on briefly when referring to Christianity's baggage. Jesus is so AMAZING! He died for EVERYONE as though we were the ONLY one!
@shane2973 I love that! "He died for us as if we were the ONLY one." The Lord is beyond amazing! I was thinking just yesterday (as it is Thanksgiving coming soon, things to be thankful for). How amazing his love is ! It's so pure with no hidden agendas. It's love without " if you do these certain things, then I will love you. " . It's just pure love! I'm so thankful he is who he is! ...its so sad how people of the world can't(or won't)see Jesus for who he is. We were condemned to hell, but he loved us enough to die a brutal death, so we no longer have to go to hell if we are willing to come to a point in our life where we will repent of our sins we have done against him and believe on Jesus Christ! His salvation is free to us, but it costs Jesus Christ everything! Now that is Love!
@@charisasmith8554 Christ's salvation is to His people. Nobody can resist the call of God. But only some are called not all. That's why God is sovereign. Only He decides.
@@laocheebye no, God calls to all, that is why we are to witness. He wants to give everyone a chance to accept him as Saviour. Many will refuse his gift of eternal life, but he wants them to accept him as their Saviour, but ultimately its up to each individual. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
I admire the teacher’s patience and eloquence even when faced with arrogance, blatant rudeness and a copious amount of self-reighteousness. Lord, help us. Continue to bless this beautiful hearted teacher. “If anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet”
I love your ending comments. It always strikes me that the gospel is so simple a child can understand it and yet so deep that brilliant scholars and theologians have been studying/debating it forever.
@@Tinesthia I think it interesting that I can agree with Nick yet if I said the same thing as Nick to Nick, he would likely not agree with me when he learned my thoughts of what he was saying. Our Creator and his son love all humanity past present and future, it's many of his other sons and daughters that don't yet.
And yet, here you are having NOT read the Gospels, and if you did, you didn't understand it. Because THIS is exactly what Jesus told us NOT to do. He told us to believe what you want, be a good person, and not to concern yourself with what anyone else believes. Care ONLY that others are good people too, by whatever means to come to wanting or being a good person. He told us NOT to proclaim our faith in public or try to prove our faith because that's what hypocrites do. He told us there was NO NEED to prove God's existence. And here you are, not understanding or not ever knowing, or completely ignoring what He said. He was RIGHT.
@@amylathrop8329 Where does it say to believe what you want? Where also does it say not to profess your faith to non believers? “And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.”” Matthew 28:18-20 ESV “So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 10:32-33.ESV We cannot be good, only God is good: “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.” Mark 10:18 ESV We must not be quarrelsome, but we must spread the Gospels, and the unbelievers are looking for God, looking for something to fill the God size hole, which are easier to reach than those who heard the Gospel and chose to walk away. Maybe you can clarify what you mean?
@@amylathrop8329 what you're saying is the exact opposite of what the scriptures say. The whole point of being a disciple of Christ is to be a witness for our faith and to share it so that others will believe and be saved. He did not tell us to believe what we want! "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8 "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Matthew 28:19 "And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation." Mark 16:15 "For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power." 1 Cor 1:17 "And most of the brothers, having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear." Phil 1:14 "For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" 1 Cor 9:16 "How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?" Rom 10:14 "And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” Rom 10:15 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 "And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Acts 16:31 "Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” John 6:29 "For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep." 1 Thess 4:14 "and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” Mark "Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16
Atheists like this guy always try to sound smarter than the person they are trying to debate. Bro contradicted himself multiple times and I hope he realized this or realizes it at some point in time. Turek firing on all cylinders once again. Great video.
AMEN🙏🏾 Nick's heart is hardened...and he will be eternally punished if he continues. Atheists say, "There is NO God...but, boy do we HATE Him." He is a sad person and, again, if he doesn't accept CHRIST, in HELL he will lift up his eyes🙏🏾
Truly enjoyed the argument as well as your commentary. There aren’t many times when a message rings so true that my automatic response is ‘Amen, preaching to the choir’, when I’m on UA-cam watching Reactors yet you got one from me today. I’m glad the algorithm put you in my suggestion list. LCS
The man asking questions didn’t seem to be searching for the truth, he seemed like he was trying to ask questions to make the speaker doubt his faith. Love the speaker’s patience and calmness
That's exactly right. They think they got the "silver bullet" that will cause any rationally minded person to reject Christianity "because it's stupid". Atheists have no clue how utterly brainwashed they are.
False. The student was challenging his faith. Imagine claiming something is real and you can't prove it. None of us knows the actual truth about what's out there but having thousands of religions and thousands of gods there's an issue here. If one of these is the truth then there would be ONE religion and ONE god. You do the math from now
To challenge his faith, the man asking questions should have listened to what the speaker was saying, and he should’ve been there from the beginning to be able to have a debate or to be able to share different perspectives. That man came during the q&a with just the intention of putting his perspective, he didn’t come prepared nor with the intention of listening and sharing. It was a one way road of him saying that God doesn’t exist.
@@kkp5556 what was he supposed to listen? "God is real" "Jesus is real and died for our sins" "Jesus loves you" we've heard ALL of that already and the guy knew it. There's nothing more to talk about. If you can't prove something your so sure exists then just say that. Don't try and tell people that God doesn't exist in this universe. That just creates a bunch of "what if's" and still not proving it. If somebody challenges you, you have to be ready. If you don't have proof then you can't win a debate. Religion always takes the L because of lack of evidence
These kids believe they are a lot smarter than they really are. Good on them to have the confidence to challenge someone with a far far greater and superior level of knowledge than theirs on a subject that they obviously have far less knowledge about than Turek. I hope they see and accept when they are humbled and take that lesson with them. These kids are our future and I love seeing their confidence and blossoming intellect at work in these debates.
He's not only missing the point of his own question and how it should be answered, he's not giving full opportunity for Frank to answer him completely and that never amounts to much. He doesn't present as someone genuinely interested in truth because if that were so, then he would hear out, completely,each response to each question without interrupting and muddying the exchange.
I am from South Africa , and regarding with what you said about hearing the Gospel for the first time vs the baggage , i am shocked seeing on youtube mostly American people not believing in God and the Godlessness in America and Europe , but also i have seen great people in America beliving in God like people on your channel , comparing South Africa to America and Europe and the rest of the world i am glad that we are very conservative and do not share the rest of the world's Godlessnes, it is absolutely shocking, but then again it all depends on one's point of view , keep up the good fight
This guy should just say what he wants to say. People like him want to sound so educated and liberal and open minded when what he’s really asking is “why don’t you stop believing in your religion so that I can feel better about other religions?” There is a reason this guy talks about Christianity the way he does, he wouldn’t question hindi, Islam, buddhism to same way. One of Gods greatest characteristics is that he doesn’t force himself on anyone.
Actually he was comparing all them stating that they are all the same depending on who u ask. Take yourself and your feelings out of the equation and compare all religions. Just think their religion is special because they think they feel it in their heart. All he is saying is everyone has just as much conviction about their religion as the others and all arguments for each religion can apply to the other one.
Travis, that's precisely what Turek tries to do in his presentations. I'm not sure who it is Nick thinks is saying that the believers in each religion don't believe in their religion. Pointing out that they do is a tautology but it says nothing whatsoever about the truth or falsehood of Christianity. That remains to be decided on other grounds, which were covered during the presentation Nick missed.
@@chrisclark7170 It was almost like a fairytale when he delivered me from the satanic cult I was a member of. His deliverance and work in y life was greater than I can explain. Jesus is my LORD and SAVIOUR, not because of what I did, but because of whet HE did. Jesus loves you Chris.
"A little heavy, a little preachy". Not at all. Amen brother. Your closing statements in this video were my favorite part of this video. More of that please.
I wish Nick listened. He's asking all these questions but he doesn't seem to be interested in having a conversation. A virtue in life is listening. Not always easy to do when we're impatient. I've learnt I can be very impatient. Patience takes respect and humilty.
For sure. It's so tempting after hearing theists blurt out nonsense to call them delusional and move on with your day, but to continuously listen to the broken logic and try to counter it is commendable. This is likely why most yt atheists who make commentary on religion are some of the kindest, most patient people on the entire platform.
@@isabellalarkin8859 Isabella, do not leave where you'll be after your time on this earth in question. If you want to see people who have already pulled back the curtain look up John Ramirez's testimony.
At What point point does the Verse....do not cast your pearls before the swine come into the discussion.....because God has given it for EVERY person born to know that there is a God....no matter how much people deny it. I wouldn't have time for this.
Imagine coming into a presentation late to aska question that was covered in the presentation, and then thinking that Dawkins is some kind of esoteric text that Frank isn't aware of.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@propagandakiller632 You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Am a hindu, been to a Catholic School, it was a great experience, got to know about other faiths and we used to celebrate Christmas and diwali alike in school with all the fathers and sisters and teachers , honestly I never felt any difference between between faiths I love my krishana and I loved visiting my school church too, my friends and I still visit our school on Christmas. If your questioning someone at least listen to what the other have to say and not interrupt in between
This guy walks in late, having missed 90% of the presentation, and proceeds to heckle the teacher. He's lucky that anyone took him seriously. If it hadn't been an important question, most teachers would have blown him off. "Come see me after class. Other students actually came to listen. I'll see you later."
Awesome my brother great message at the end. This was a way God spoke to me about always having a word ready. I pray your staying enthusiastic about your channel because it is helping so many people. Dave from Canada
A story I love that illustrates the error Nick makes is the story of the blind men that encounter the elephant - each makes different claims - ‘long and skinny like the tail’, ‘broad and rough like the side’, ‘thick like a tree (trunk)’. This is often used to say the blind men are all wrong (like Nick is claiming about religions). The error is the storyteller is claiming to see the whole elephant but we are all equally ‘blind’.
A theist in your example would have no hand on the elephant at all, because while the blind people are fumbling about trying to discover the truth they are all actually dealing in *evidence*, and a theist is only dealing in *faith*. Completely different.
@@adamsalazar8214 Faith is not inherently without evidence and everyone must deal in faith to a degree because absolutely nothing is certain -- entropy exists.
God does not have to prove himself. The proof is in fact out there but in truth we are to have faith. Carry on not believing and soon you will be woke up in a giant way
@mirandahotspring4019 that isn't true at all. Use your head. Athiests assert there is no creator. Believers assert there is. That is COMPLETELY dishonest to think that athiests don't have a truth claim. You are hiding behind this idea that the natural world is the baseline and you don't have to prove anything. Basic philosophy proves that is nonsense.
@@mikepotter6426 Does that apply to the remote uncontacted Amazonian tribes that have never heard of your god, the billion or so Hindu who have their own gods, and all the others who have different beliefs? How arrogant you have to be to believe that!
@mirandahotspring4019 you mean *God, when you say god you're not talking about our God but a man made idol. Jesus can reach anyone in many many ways, if they are uncontacted then how would anyone know what they believe? You surely couldn't as you have not contacted them.
Imagine being a movie reviewer and walking in to interview Tom Cruise about his new Top Gun movie but you haven’t even watched it. You’re critical about it but you haven’t even watched it. That’s what Nick did right here and it shows his lack of character and disrespect for others. Nick should have had the decency to listen to Frank’s lecture and then ask questions. These types of people are not interested in the truth because they don’t want to be accountable for their own sins. If they were interested in the truth, they would seek it out like Frank and so many other former atheists have done. If Nick was interested in finding the truth, he would have listened to Frank’s lecture before asking questions.
Good point, and here’s some evidence: You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
I agree with you. How Nick has the nerve to get up and waste Frank’s time and also the time of members of the audience who have sat through the lecture and know what has been discussed, I don’t know. Nick worships his own ego by the looks of it.
@@GhostWriter-wt8pb PAY ATTENTION; I just proved 4 different ways That God is real, and he wrote the Bible, so what you said was a guess! a loving God Has To show evidence and he has! You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@louiseng7272 here’s the evidence the guy is looking for; You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Love the content, brother! I know you’re committed to being objective and fair, but Nick was the reason this discussion was going off course. Nick came to monologue, not dialogue. Nick came to play gotcha, frank came to teach. Nick was combative, Frank was calm
I agree, Nick seemed frustrated and frightened the more Frank would knock down the false doctrine from the book, 'The God Delusion." Nick seemed desperate when he couldn't achieve his goal, poor kid. Too bad he arrived so late that he missed all the hard facts Frank had for him, and probably would've just left at that point.
Confidence is Latin for Con Fide = With Faith. Everyone, because we are made in the image of God, live by faith. Thank you STB! When someone demonstrates that they are unwilling or unable to listen...stop talking, move on.
Missionary kid here, I just wanted to say that if you live in America you should not take the “Christian Environment” of America for granted. While cultural Christianity can be harmful, Christianity in America is a blessing that many American Christians don't fully understand. I'm not usually one to say “Check your privilege,” but you really should.
As someone who lives in a country with cultures that have no Christian foundation, I can attest to this. A western atheist would be more accurately described as an heretical christian.
I'm in America, and your statement is true. Having said that, we have predominately lost Christian culture in this country and are living on the fumes of our Judeo/Christian heritage. Still, we see many blessings because of the heritage in spite of America's increasing depravity and rejection of God.
@@wandertreeyes, so true. I totally agree, I guess I should've been more clear in my original post. I don't know 10 churches in my entire country whose doctrinal statements I could sign, whereas I know so many churches in America whose doctrinal statement I could sign. America has a lot of great churches and no American Christian should take that for granted.
Love the premise of the video and have said it for years. An assertion that got doesn’t exist is an affirmative claim equally responsible for the burden of proof. Great work. Keep going!
I remember this moment as clear as day. I was and still am an active duty soldier and all I wanted to do was sit down and listen to Dr.Frank Turek. When this gentlemen walked up (me left shoulder, it took every ounce of the Holy Spirit for me not to lose it. Just listening to the way he spoke and the disrespect had me up the hills. Again, with military as my background, respect is a must. Ever since then, I haven’t stepped into college ground.. thanks Turek for doing what I and others probably don’t have the patience in doing.
@@trumpbellend6717 Do you know that their was an insult that would make a Viking obligated to kill you. Some people value respect more then you, and I am pretty sure you wouldn't tell a Viking grow up.
@@viperstriker4728 Lol sorry dear I don't "respect" anyone that thinks our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible being who thinks it moral to *_"kill all the males from amongst the little ones"_* 🤢🤮
Yes Praise Jesus. Join the narrow road, might be narrow but not hard. I say this by my testimony. A born and bought up hindu, saw worst part of life. Was mentally ill and eventually physically ill and almost certain to die and no hope from doctors( they called me abnormal). So started to search god, visited temples, recited prayers and atlast Jesus came to me and here I am alive and having life in abundance. No more mental or physical illness that too without pill(recovered in hardly 2-3 months after I met Jesus i.e and in the time when doctors had already declared me abnormal). I Praise him with my testimony.😊 So, way might be narrow, but not hard.Bcoz it is by his grace we are saved not by our works. And thus I can say confidently that there is God and that Jesus is God.😊
It is simpler than we think. Question is who do people see when they have a "near death experience" that is they died and came back to life. Well people see Jesus Christ. It is easy to believe when the person is Christian. Christians are not the only people with near death experiences, Who do Muslims or Hindus or any other religion see? Testimony exists. Who is on the other side of death? Dive in and research. Share what you find.
I always enjoy your videos but, the loving, caring and compassion that you displayed during your invitation to all people to come to the loving arms of Christ, at the end of your video was absolutely beautiful and refreshing. Blessings to you for your example of Christ's love. Thanks for sharing.
I like what you said at the end. It reminds me of what I like to tell people like Nick. I’ve heard others say it as well, so it’s out there. I tell them: Consider this, if I’m wrong, and you’re right, then , when we both die someday, we are just no more and that’s it. Nothing either one of us can do about it. But, if I’m right, and you’re wrong, then I get to live for eternity with my Lord and Savior with whom I love. And the best part of it all is, it’s free. You on the other hand will live in eternal damnation where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth. I go on to tell them that I, nor anyone else is forcing you to believe. It’s up to you, and you alone. So what do you care that I believe, and you don’t. If you’re convinced that you’re right, then let me be. Im doing nothing to you. Unless of course, you have doubt in what you’re saying, and are looking for answers. …..then the conversation really begins…..
No man can resist God. Those that have ears they will hear. Those that have eyes they will see. God only came to save His people. There will be gnashing of teeth no matter who is right or wrong. God decides because He is sovereign.
Why I care is because while you're titled to believe any bullshit you have been indoctrinated with what you do not have the right to do , which Christians do ,do is impose by various means your supposed gods laws, your tenets, dogma and doctrines of your religion on me, I would like nothing better than to leave you alone, and will do so the minute you reciprocate.
Dr. Frank Turek is a gift for the body of Christ. Thank you for sharing this video...short duration _big idea ! Thank you also for including J. Warner Wallace explanation on objectivity of truth & objective claim of Christianity.❤
if you're going to ask a question, slow down, and listen for and to the answers. Asking to prove a point is not a good way of learning. It's not asking it's "preaching a point" but not following any logic. It's literally repeating what you have heard. When you have to speak so fast to overtalk others YOU'RE NOT ASKING TO LISTEN.
The biggest takeaway from this is our belief is based on opinion, and our opinion doesn’t make anything factual. Facts are facts regardless of what we believe.
I used to think like that guy.. When you have a spiritual encounter there is no amount of "evidence" that can tell you that what you have experienced is not real. The Bible is full of people that have had spiritual encounters. Have faith and seek Him, then you will find the truth too.
A Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu, and a Buddhist were seated at a table, facing north, south, east, and west respectively. When asked to identify the center of the table, the Christian pointed north, the Muslim south, the Hindu east, and the Buddhist west. Observing this, an atheist who had been watching from the sidelines concluded with a degree of certainty, "The center of the table does not exist!"
Or, a different atheist would say, the centre of the table is the centre of the table and none of those around the table are looking in the right place. The joke is flawed, if the words 'centre of the table' are replaced with god, as the joke implies, then the only logical conclusion made by the atheist (assuming he or she is rational) would be that each person has a different idea and the existance of god cannot be boiled down to a single idea based on their diverse cultural interpretations. The centre of the table is there in the joke, and undeniable. The atheist would be able to see it. The joke is almost funny, but not written cleverly enough to work. The fact that god is not visible is what leads, amongst many other factors, to atheists not having the belief in god (s). An atheist needs proof of existance, therefore the centre of the table provides that in this case. If the table was invisible, and claimed by those around it to be there (irrespectove of where they are pointing) I would want its existance proven by putting a glass on it. If the glass falls, I will suspend my belief until such time as evidence is demonstrated.
@@clarkegibson464 Actually, the more accurate scenario would involve the group arguing over how the table got there. The Christian would claim to know who built the table, and that he knows the builder personally. The Muslim would claim to know who built the table, but call the Christian a blasphemer because the builder of the table is far too important to talk to just anybody. I don't know much about Buddhism or Hinduism, but I suspect they would claim that there were many builders of the table. The atheist isn't even sitting at the table. He just stands there above the rest, mocking them for even claiming there was a builder to begin with. The atheist would claim that the table needs no builder, that its intricate design is simply a matter of many coincidences happening over a long period of time. The atheist claims that the existence of the table is not sufficient evidence to support the claim that there is a builder.
Wow. Crazily stupid play on words to astound the ….. stupid. The atheist from the corner of the room literally has a perspective of the flawed rationale of the people at the table and with science and logic dispute the single mindedness of the people at the table and work out where the centre of the table is precisely. Almost a perfect analogy for religion😁
I was deeply involved into the New Age and witchcraft of all sorts. Both of my grandmother's performed miracles I've seen with my eyes. I have seen tarot readings with 100% accuracy and at one point I tried manifesting my girlfriend because I thought I was actually god. Anyways the Lord opened my eyes slowly and he delivered me from a narcissistic relationship. But in all of this I thought ( God saved me so now he is going to save my relationship ). I started being angry with God and questioned how is he Sovereign and why did he allow those New Age demons and etc to fool me for years in the first place and give me a counter-feit relationship. I got a response to my prayer in a day. I cried almost the entire day. I realized I was born a Christian ( who didn't know his Bible ), but the moment I started seeing all of those false demonic teachings and miracles I ate them like bread. I am a worthless garbage , I realized even as I was repenting my heart posture was ( I am repenting for real this time, maybe he will give me a miracle or restore me). God is not our vending machine and we are not saved by our works, we are all worthless sinners, only He is worthy.
I think it's ok to listen to someone challenge your authority and not have to justify yourself. Every conversation doesn't have to be an endless debate. Simply respond, "OK, thank you for sharing your opinion. Are you asking a question because you want to know something, or is your question just a jab? And if you are humble enough to admit you have a desire for knowledge, can you listen with an open mind? Good! Let's begin. Or, ok. Thank you for your thoughts.
Wow! 1st time watching your show. I really enjoyed that; top notch. Thank you. I subscribed immediately. God be with us and we enter 2024. I have a feeling we're gonna need it.
I've been through so many of these types of conversations with non-believers that I think I'm finally coming around to the idea that learning how to get past their defenses and getting to the real person is the missing ingredient in our modern Evangelical evangelism. That you can't get from watching Christian debates online. In fact, I am beginning to think that this approach is actually just another impediment. A substitute for the real thing, which is learning how to be much more personal. It's as if Frank here is just dealing with this young man's "smoke screen" that he has erected to hide his real person. Nick doesn't care whether there's a God or not. Frank does it extremely well, but I wonder if it's not merely "the seed that fell along the path" kind of evangelism. We have to do better than just learning how to answer their objections.
I'm inclined to agree but I think this is what Jesus meant by "doing greater works". As in a multitude of different ppl have different ministries for reaching different types of ppl...(since Jesus' short ministry was primarily to the Jews). These intellectual apologetics work for some ppl where emotional appeals might fail. But for me I've never been swayed by these kind of apologetic arguments, (but then again I was born & rasied in a Christian household). The main reason I watch videos like this is to learn different methods for witnessing to others (since a lot of American churches neglect to prioritize teaching its converts how to spread the Gospel).
Oh yeah, don’t think that I am dismissing this type of thing as useless or of no value. They are of great value. All I’m really trying to get at is that one should not think that this is what you want to get good at. The”aim of our charge” isn’t to be able to win arguments, although we should learn how to “destroy arguments and every proud obstacle to the knowledge of God” but that should come AFTER our own obedience is complete.
But the “greater works than these will be do” is referring to is enabling one to enter into eternal life, since every one of the people Jesus healed all died anyway, so granting eternal life through us is of even greater works than physical miracles, all of which are simply typologies of spiritual transformations.
Jesus reached people by loving them. Forgiving them. Showing kindness, love, mercy, forgiveness, even for His enemies, which is unheard of in our society. He was humble and rejected no one. He didn't look down on others, but saw that we're all sinful and broken, and He loved us, unconditionally, and sacrificially, that's what reaches people. It's God's love and grace that inspires change. Jesus came to save, not condemn, but so many times, as Christians, we judge and condemn others which pushes them further away from God, because when we reject them, they think that God does also, when He doesn't. It's Good News. Just sharing...
The real problem with non-believers is that, when they ask for evidence of God, and you give them evidence, they refuse to accept it as evidence. Suppose I told an historian that I don't believe George Washington was a real person. So the historian gives me a list of evidence like his grave site, his writings, a painting, a granite monument, his hand written signature on documents, testimonies from witnesses, results of military campaigns, his house, and so on but I immediately reject all of them claiming that every one on them can be faked. The historian would consider me deranged. But this is essentially what non-believers are doing. They won't accept any evidence no matter how good. Richard Dawkins recently said in an interview, "If all the stars were rearranged to spell out 'I am God' I still wouldn't believe it. I would think it was aliens messing with us." That statement pretty much summarizes how non-believers think.
I love the confidence the gentleman has in asking his question. It takes a lot of courage to ask a question in a room like this. The answer he gets is awesome!
To be honest, it's very difficult to PERSUADE soneone (especially someone with a powerful intellect) of a spiritual point. My own experience is that that person must first live enough and love enough and worry enough and struggle enough, enough to come to the absolute dead-end of his mind. He must expreience deeply and suffer terribly, bitterly from the limitations of his own intellect. Then he will, because he must, throw up his hands and admit that his mind is not getting him anywhere useful. THEN and only then the door cracks open, and this type of "how to resolve this paradox, how to address this conundrum" type of conversation will simply disappear because there is no need for it.
It’s Actually not a powerful intellect, it’s a Hardened Heart- If he indeed had a powerful intellect he could prove there is no God. Instead he trying to get Nick to resolve a paradox that doesn’t exist- He’s arguing subjective Truth when We, Christian believe in Objective Truth
That what makes The Day Jesus returns so Awesome & so Terrible- so Beautiful and yet so dreadful- Atheism is a temporary position. That’s Why the Bible says the Fool has said in his heart there is no God- After all this fruitless articulation, What words will Atheists use when they stand before the God the spent the Entire Life denying the existence of? “My Bad”? Ok I have proof now I believe- Then they’ll say “Lord Lord”. And He’ll say depart from Me, Ye worker of iniquity, I never knew you…. That’s Dreadful. You snuggly debated the person who took time to present you with the Truth that could save your soul.
To be honest , I have studied Buddhism Islam and Hinduism for a period of time and it became quick knowledge to me that many of those religions the followers do not have any garuntee that they will enter heaven-Moksha(Hinduism), Nirvana(Buddhism), or Jannah(Islam) People in general may appear confident in the anything they hold dear to themselves, but if you ask anyone how they feel their chances are getting into heaven they always say they don’t know or it’s “If Allah wills” or “hopefully I get reincarnated into something good”, really they are placing their faith on chance rather than something firm. That’s the difference between worldly confidence and being Confident in Christ. We have the eternal Guarantee because of what Our God did for us at the cross!
He does not. And then he offers some small humility in suggesting it's perhaps semantics. But he doesn't understand what "semantics" means either. You can't back away from the poverty of your position by claiming the words you used are insufficient and then inserting presumed thoughts and points--presumed because you haven't even the skill to make them, let alone defend them. Some words and "semantics" that would be particularly useful for him? The thousands that were shared during a discussion he didn't even bother to attend. It's probably safe to deduce he's quite sure he already knows what would have been said. It's EVIDENT that he does not.
I'm working on being able to think like that, but presently I'm imagining him with a broken nose. God still has a lot of work left to do on me. Getn there...
@@flyingtime5501 what good work God starts in you , He will finish 💪 You're going through a sanctification process, me too, lots of people deserve a broken nose imo also 😂 however....that's the old man talking We're slowly becoming the new man, walking with Christ. That's going to take time. Keep surrendering to Christ, it takes courage to get it done. Keep going Christian brother 🙏
@@flyingtime5501 I've time to pray for you bro I'll do that now after this text, I'll just pray the Lord watches over you, stay your hand from anger and temptation, guide your walk and that the spirits voice you continue to listen to over your own 🙏 Be the light to others 🕯️ Till we meet in the kingdom 📖
So this kid hopped in late to the discussion just to tell everyone they are wrong about believing in God and his opinion is correct. Perhaps he will grow up some day and realize how little he know.
I'm a practicing catholic and obviously a Christian but this young man is articulate, intelligent, and has well thought out argument. I'll give him that, many non believers aren't able to voice there opinions this well. Can't be angry at him and I'll pray for him to come and know the lord.
What lord should he get to know though? And why is yours the "only" real one? The worst day our childhood's is when we learned Santa Claus isn't actually real.
I'm halfway thru the bible with studying what I read, and it's amazing. Reading the Bible and the recent discoveries being made and what we are still finding is all adding . Kinda scary
Arrogance is ignorance. This is what I run into every time someone opposes my testimony. People who have never read the Bible or studied theology that think their general knowledge is a good explanation for why God doesn't exist. Bro walked in like he was a theologian and had all the answers. I love him. The same way God loved me when I didn't want Him to love me and I overdosed twelve times trying to kill myself. All glory to God. Again you have outdone yourself brother 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
Thank you for sharing this! 🙏❤️
People of all kinds please state if you are christian or muslim, atheists, agnostics or any combination of those and then if willing participate in the test. As well, looking for 5 good moral theist questions for atheists/agnostics.
#1 You see a child drowning in a shallow pool and notice a person just watching that is able to save the child with no risk to themselves but is not, is that persons non action moral?
#2 If you go to save the child, the man tells you to stop as he was told it was for the greater good, but he does not know what that is, do you continue to save the child?
#3 Is it an act of justice to punish innocent people for the crimes of others?
#4 If you were able to stop it and knew a person was about to grape a child would you stop it?
#5 Would you consider a parent who put their kids in a room with a poison fruit and told the kids not to eat it but then also put the best con artist in the room with the children knowing the con artist will get the kids to eat the fruit and the parent does nothing to stop it a good parent?
People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom of course brother 🙏🏿✌🏿💙💪🏿
@@dlsimmonsjr1 >>People who witness become educated in opposing views. Being knowledgeable about views that oppose christianity strengthen my faith not weaken it. The nicks of the world just dive into one side or element. In a godless view you have to supply answers.""
Any view should have to provide answers. Can i ask if you can see my comment just above yours with 5 questions in it?
*"God opposes the proud, but gives grace to the humble." - James 4:6*
What's wrong with proud I'm a proud father and grandad W T F are you talking about being a good person is got nothing to with God and being a good human being is what it's about ya idiot
@justingary5322 May the Lord Jesus continue to empower you with the dynamite power of God the Holy Spirit to the glory of God the Father, my brother in Jesus.🔥
Romans 9:15-16
[15] For God said to Moses, “I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I will show compassion to anyone I choose.” [16] So it is God who decides to show mercy. We can neither choose it nor work for it.
And his children are dying in Africa of starvation and your god is salvation what about the abuse of children in the church its rife and you choose to ignore that clean up your god first and I might follow you
@@roberteccles3896who's starving the children in Africa? Who's abusing children in the church?
God, or man?
He didn’t even attend the presentation. He heard there was a Christian event being held which activated his atheism and he rushed over. Wild.
"Activated his atheism", Steve for the win.
I just summon the atheism when I hear a Christian UA-cam channel is posting. Close my eyes in dark, silent room and just summon it. That's how it works.
Lol😂 It activates their atheism so they must drop absolutely everything they are doing to go debate against the existence of someone that they don't even believe exists.
Hearing your god probably doesn't exist, activates your Christian Narcissism.
@@kos-mos1127 Like summoning demons, huh? Sad and tragic.
I love Frank Turek! “I read that book.” He has done his homework. Nick isn’t even willing to read Frank’s book. That tells us a lot right there.
He’s terrified that Frank is correct.
It’s so sad because he has no need to fear….. well in his current state yes…. But if he knew the peace that comes from faith in Jesus as opposed to faith in ( ??? ) he would not be scared. The invested interest in disproving faith is something I always find so mystifying
Very few atheists are willing to look at anything that might shake their beliefs.
@@JamesCouch777most atheists are former church goers in my experience. Reading the Bible convinced me it’s fiction.
@JamesCouch777 atheists ask is there a god with facts not blind belief
I have zero respect for people who ask a question then repeatedly cut you off when you try to answer.
They ask a question and there is only one acceptable answer to them and that is that you just agree with them. Once they sense there is a different point of view or an objection to the premise of their question they cut you off.
This shows a weak mind that is afraid to be exposed to other points of view.
Yes he isn't asking the question because he wants an answer, he is just starting an argument trying to prove some point that he isn't even sure of himself in all reality.
so a Narcissist
Yeah. It's called being disingenuous. It's not asking in good faith. Oftentimes, it's nothing more than a repeated attempt to to make the person look foolish, rather than an honest inquiry into Truth or even to know what another actually believes.
It's intellectually dishonest.
Classic behavior of narcissists as well.
Afraid no, weak yes
When Dr. Turek says things like “hold on nick hold on” I find it oddly respectful, because there’s a quote that says “never stop your enemy from making a mistake”, which is Machiavellian in nature. When Dr. Turek says to hold on, he’s trying to prevent the person from making a fool of themselves and being overly emotional and incoherent. He helps them to clarify their point, so as to help them facilitate an air of dignity. Dr. Turek doesn’t want to embarrass people or “gotcha” them. He truly believes what he is saying and is being as intellectually honest as I can tell. He always shows respect regardless of if a person’s mind has been changed, and doesn’t want the audience laughing at disagreers. True maturity and humility.
He was telling to hold on because he was just monologuing .
That's a very wise and insightful comment. Congrats and thank you 🙏🏻
He stopped him because this arrogant young man isn't his enemy.
@@TheEternalHyperboreanis that your claim of truth?
He also stops them because he has heard the argument a hundred times already, and wants them to get to the point so that the conversation can really begin.
Nick: *Shows up 70 minutes into a 75 minute presentation explaining his entire belief system*
Also nick: i demand you explain and defend your belief system in its entirety while i interrupt, talk over you, and assert my opinions as widely known facts
That last statement "assert opinions as widely know facts" is pretty much every athiest and far Lefty nut you see on the internet.
Painfully obvious Nick isn't interested in the truth or an honest conversation. Doesn't want to hear what Dr. Turek presented, only might kinda sorta maybe read his book but only Dr. Turek re-reads Dawkins lol. Pray for patience with these people
Bravo assertion !
@@Mr_FairdaleNick read Dawkins, and voila! An expert who parrots Dawkins.
I had a back and forth with a guy who had only read Bart Ehrman, and he purported to be an expert on all things biblical, though it became painfully obvious that he knew very little. Typical modern “skeptic” of other peoples’ beliefs, but never one’s own.
They should be given time to ask one question at a time Once the question is finished, Stop them until you finished your answers. Otherwise they want to be overwise!
People that never humble themselves will never find the truth, and only humble people can accept the grace of God.
Spot on.
That’s a nice way of saying you have to self proclaim that you have no brain cells.
The biggest thing this student can learn from watching his own performance at the mic is how to listen. Such pride in his own intelligence! I don't think Turek completed more than 2 sentences in the 16 minutes. “Ego is the worst Master. Humility, the best teacher.”
― Andrew Pacholyk, Barefoot ~ A Surfer's View of the Universe
Turek does not believe that objective listening exists. He is an atheist when it comes to paying attention
As soon as frank said "i already read it" arrogance was gone. Humbled immediately 😂😂
Yet Frank shows shocking disingenuous ignorance.
@@JP-je6jg how?
@@santiagorivas1950 how does he answer the question? He doesn't.
He twists and turns and attempts to get the conversation on to a level where he can say something that sounds vaguely intelligent. His 4 tests for god are just...idiotic in the extreme...I mean 'can miracles happen, the greatest miracle already has'...he, without evidence, is stating his opinion as fact.
Il ask you, assuming (perhaps incorrectly) you are a Christian or at least a theist...how do you know you are right? How do you know you just so happened to have picked the right version of the right god?
@JP-je6jg correct i am a Christian. I never said I WAS right lol but, if it is true I won eternity. If not, then you won am argument. (That's the answer to your first question.) And secondly, in bible, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 15: 14. "And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith." If jesus didn't really die and rise from the dead then we live in vain and everything we do is for naught. There's no reason to go to church or ask for forgiveness. It's the same in our brains. No one dies for a lie. Ppl could die for a lie they were made to belive is true but not a truth that is a lie. Got me??? (Saying it in a friendly tone.)
@@santiagorivas1950
That word, eternity...that's an awfully long time...what do we do in heaven?...ok what do people who go to heaven do? (No way I'd be going) ...is one lifetime worth an eternity of either punishment or reward?
I'm afraid I fundamentally disagree. Why on earth would our lives count for less without god? I can still love and fear and laugh and hope as much as any theist. I still have dreams and aspirations. I can still be a good person and aim to make the world a better place. God doesn't have a monopoly on that, heck, id say the world can be moral in spite of religion.
Why does Jesus having died for us make our lives worth more?
I agree people wouldn't die for a lie...but as you point out, people will die for what they believe to be true, whether it is or not. Look at Heaven's Gate...or even any Islamist terrorist. They must believe in their cause, but presumably you, as a Christian, must disagree with them and think it a lie.
Nothings more annoying than somebody that asks questions but wont give an oppertunity to hear answers.
Why so he can lie?
@@kos-mos1127 well technically if he wanted to point out that he was lying, he would have to actually hear the full answer in order to refute it. Refutation in this case doesn't exist though. He missed the majority of the presentation and then fired off one atheistic talking point after another without allowing a chance for an adequate back and forth. Even if he had a legitimate point, Dr. Turek was not given the opportunity to fully answer. That's not how it works on either side.
@@kos-mos1127it’s rude to interrupt someone answering a question that has been posed to them. It shows a lack of morales and etiquette, furthermore, it’s disingenuous. Also how can determine if it’s a lie or not, he wasn’t listening to the answer.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@TheDominic1011 He was dodging the question.
Watching from Uganda 🇺🇬 ( East Africa).
God bless you.
Me too! 🇺🇬 Love Love Frank Turek
Imagine pulling up late, not even seeing the presentation, and then questioning the validity of the presentation WITHOUT EVEN SEEING THE CRITICAL POINTS!!! That’s insane to me
That’s arrogance.
🤣🤣🤣...I know, RIGHT!
That's atheism, unfortunately.
it's like he just heard the Leprechaun thing on TikTok or something and couldn't wait to parrot 😆
someone came at me with the exact same echoes in comments somewhere else 😂
the fact that they use something as ridiculous as a Leprechaun for comparison just shows their animosity towards Gods, because when you compare the gravity of the claims they are nowhere near each other 🤦♂️
last I checked nobody ever claimed Leprechaun's created everything, or gave their life for us, or that there's any possible way we should be accountable to them.
it's as if the people who ask it this way think they're belittling God but it only shows how badly they misunderstand the question.
Key atheism. "Showing up late" to disprove God's existence when God's existence predates and exceeds the realm of atheism.
I wish all churches would open up their doors at least once a month to an open question and answers session like this. So people can air their views and gain understanding. I think that would break down the barriers between believers and non believers...
Do you actually believe that false teachers want to be questioned! Those false teachers that will allow you to question them already know that the person they are talking to have limited bible knowledge and will be easily duped!
@@mikejordan6290so are you an atheist
I think that would be a horrible idea. Ever see those riots a couple years ago? Same maniacs destroying stores will be “the peaceful people just seekianswers”. Boom. Fights break out.
Don’t fool yourself. Bad company corrupts good character.
Unfortunately, many churches these days...(at least in Western societies), couldn't debate this well for Christ. Markedly mega-churches who'd much rather hang an LBGTQ flag out front to "attract" followers rather than preach salvation and the grave dangers of sin.
Go to Sunday school for Bible study.
He doesn't even know the correct use of the word paradox. He just feels superior for using it.
Yes that was not an example of a paradox
Right like a paradox would be me being born only to grow up go back in time to create myself.
This guy just thinks two color blind people looking at a tree one says purple the other says blue and then claiming either one of them is right and the other wrong. The truth how ever could be as simple as both are right or both are wrong and the tree is green.
I think he means the...God created humans...when really we created God.
@ThyHoneyNut God did create everything we know. Hate to burst your bubble buddy
@brandonwhitehead2856 lol I agree with you man. I was trying to clarify what the original commentator meant.
The guy barged in on a mission. Fully arrogant, fully confident. He absolutely had to have his brilliance heard because he read Dawkins.
It's called PRIDE!
I was raised in a loving atheistic family and only last year have my eyes been opened to the truth of the Word (Aleluia!). Been watching everything all you post, and I thank you (and all of your subscribers, me included), for the beautiful content. I think this kind of approaches are very helpful, not that my faith will be increased by it, but it's definitely inspiring to hear brighter and wiser people than me, explaining all the different facets of God's truth.
I think all the proofs and evidences for the claim have been layed down before us during His-Story, there's only a small (giant) leap of faith required to feel how blessed we are. That's up to each soul individually, and is beyond logic or explanation. That's probably the reason why it feels so miraculous what happened to me, and to all of you probably too.
It brought a new meaning to the expression "seek and you shall find..."
Well... I've found you bro!
Yah Bless
🙏🏻✨
You might have had a stroke and woke up twenty-five IQ points down.
Be blessed my loved bro!
Such an amazing comment. Thank you 🙏 ❤️
What was it that convinced you?
So did you stumble upon this or another channel and become curious? Did you just decide to look into Christianity? Curious about what got you going in this direction. God Bless you!
I didn't find Nick's question too tough at all. It's a pretty popular one among atheists. When Nick asked his question, the first thing I would've said was, "Why are you asking?" This gets them to look inward and think or at least put them on notice that I've already put it through a thought process. I've heard a LOT of Christians that don't. I can't tell you how many times I've listened to atheist radio talk show hosts like Tom Leykis or Ray Taliaferro on KGO and their ilk talking to Christians who go to battle "in their underwear." When someone asks me a question, I don't just jump to the answer. Sometimes I don't answer at all because in asking why they're asking their question, I'm sussing out their REAL reason for asking, which isn't an actual answer, but an attempt to stump me or whoever they're talking to, in which case, they don't deserve an answer because they really don't care...they're just trying to trip YOU up.
That's what Jesus was referring to when he said don't cast your Pearls Before Swine cuz they were just trample all over it
Yes, if someone asks me those questions I try to ask them how they have been personally hurt by religion.
Agree in finding their motivation of questions first
We cannot win over the debate. Our faith is in power not in words
EXACT PROPHECY that comes to pass with precision. Thats how. NO OTHER BOOKS DO THAT. DONE!!!!!!!
Everybody has all the answers at their fingertips via the internet. Anybody that actually cares would have looked into it already. 99% of the time they ask questions as an attack, not because they actually want to know.
Poor Nick dropped the “God Delusion” thinking Frank doesn’t read opposing views… sweet Nick….
Yes, let’s pray for him today, in Jesus name, that His heart would be softened and that God would do whatever it takes for Him to come to know the Joy of the LORD 🙏❤️!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdomamen! 👍🏻❤️🥃🇺🇸
It was a failed gotcha moment for sure.
Yes, he could have done far better that way.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom The last person that used Jesus name on me backed off real quick.
I'm coming into the Catholic Church soon, thank you for your work I love this! Channels like yours have played a huge role in my conversion this past year - I wish I could go up to each of you apologists and give you all a big hug. God bless you all :)
i'm recently coming back to the catholic faith my grandfather would be very proud.
The catholic church shifts focus away from Christ and puts it on Mary. It's doctrines are unbiblical. You'd do well to steer clear. You can fellowship with Christians in your community without ensnaring yourself in falseunbiblical doctrines.
I would recommend trying nondenominational church service before committing to catholicism, just saying. Sola scriptura.
@@kathleengraham3577 Too late 😋
And if it’s sola scriptura wouldn’t yall just buy a bible and stay at home
I feel so badly for you. The Roman Catholic Church is a manmade religious cult. It is not the ‘Catholic’ church that is a term relating to the entire body of born again, blood washed, saved to the uttermost, Christians. Please read your Bible. You will find many fallacies that underscore the fact that tge Roman Catholic Church can be nothing but a cult.
I’ve seen this clip so many times, and yet when Turek says “I’ve already read it” gets me every time. Such a flex.
Fr that was so cold
Fr
And the "questioner" never asked what book he should read in exchange.
There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.
I can't believe he asked this question without being at the presentation. Actually, I can believe it.
Maybe just maybe God sent him there. He probably left and something was planted…
@@xyriusd832 good outlook.
@@xyriusd832 yeah and Frank demonstrated how one can handle the adversarial (which is always gonna be there somehow) without getting own feathers ruffled. Being a peacemaker is a high calling 😉
HA!
every time, when so called 'intellectuals' ask about the right belief, there is a quote from NT, when Jesus said: in my fathers house are many flats. That means, all people with a good heart who try to be honest, helping and comforting others, living a life pleased to God would come into the fathers house once.
Lol I liked the part when he said he hasn’t read his book and wasn’t even present for the presentation/seminar, and then proceeded to disagree with him while not even understanding his position.
It’s impossible to understand your own opposition if you do not even understand what it is that you oppose. In this particular case, the young man not only doesn’t understand, he hasn’t even heard what he has to say. Amazing!
He was coming into this saying "What proof do you have that you are right and others are wrong when they can point to just as many proofs as you for why they are right?" So the proofs this person gave at the beginning are just as valid as if a Muslim was up there giving proof about Allah. I very much doubt the speaker said why everyone else's proofs were wrong while his was right.
For the math problem he quickly blew through it and if everyone at the table came forward with evidence to show that their answer was correct then he wants to know why that person's claim is more valid than everyone else's. A better example would be for this math problem "4x = y" what is x and y? He wants to know why this person is the right one when everyone else can come up with their own answer to show they are right.
When I first was saved I was wanting to share my new faith with family friends and work colleagues The heart breaking part was not that most did not believe but rather that even if I could prove that Christianity is true some people would still reject Christ Thank god that is not true of everyone who does not believe .!!!
@davidmccarroll8274 if Allah appeared and was exactly as the Muslims believed would you reject him? If a Muslim could prove their belief as being the 100% truth would you convert?
@@PhuckEwerself You will have to re think your question and ask it in a way that is in line with Islam WHY The Muslims believe that God is above us in a way that we are unworthy to meet him in this life and reject the idea that we can have a relationship with god in the way Christians do and therefore they would reject the idea that Allah would approach anyone in this life in this way !!!.As I have already had a relationship with the living God I have to reject the above Islamic attitude !!!
@davidmccarroll8274 So then you would still reject that belief if it was shown and proven to be 100% true. You are bad mouthing others for not following your faith if yours was 100% proven yet you wouldn't believe if someone else's was 100% proven.
Frank's book I Don't Have Enough Faith to be An Atheist is a really good resource that goes over all the evidence pointing toward God. Good wrap-up at the end of this video with the scripture from Revelation. Great job.
dude, your line at the end is great. "only 1 of 2 people can pay for our crimes, either us or Jesus"
Somebody else being judged and punished for something you did wrong is fundamentally immoral.
Would it not be better to be sin free and face your own darkness?
@nitsujism God gives us grace b/c we are human. Our flesh was/is tempted so he died for our sins so that we may saved from them. If you notice in the Bible satan/ other fallen entities don't get this same grace b/c they were not tempted and are not of flesh.
remember if you dont sin, then jesus died for nothing lol
@@deontelipscomb5417 None of that makes any sense at all. Worse, it's immoral for somebody else to be punished for something you did wrong. It's simply unjust, barbaric, immoral. We wouldn't accept it in any system of court justice.
Let's say I committed a crime and was found guilty in court and then sentenced to torture and death. Then let's say one of my parents stepped forward and said they'll take the punishment so that I don't have to. Is that justice? What does it say about the entity inflicting the punishment that it can vindictuvely torture and kill somebody who did not commit the crime? That it doesn't care as long as somebody gets tortured and killed?
Even worse, let's say that it's the judge who set this law that decides to take the punishment on my behalf. Not only is that barbaric, unjust, vengeful and immoral, it's literally sadistic and insane.
The student is there to give a monologue and not ask a question and he won't actually listen, and neither wants an answer.
Yep!! Pure arrogance. He doesn't even listened and he blocks him and keep arguing . He never get to the main point.
@@cristineclingman8588 He's the typical Internet Atheist who just wants to win a debate. Most Atheists just don't care about supernatural anything and just live their lives not thinking about anything spiritual.
Exactly like the speaker.
This young student is the byproduct of the “cultural confusion” promoted by the college professors who are far too intelligent for their own good! It very simple…..he can’t find God, the same way a thief can’t find a policeman!
Don't ever feel bad for being " preachy". The preaching you did was beautiful and everyone needs to hear this.
Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
A GIGANTIC - AMEN! 😊
I was thinking the exact same thing...Unfortunately, in this country, there seems to be somewhat of a "Stigma" when sharing, when we speak the fundamental truths of the Gospel. " He Loves us, He died for us, He wants to give us the free gift of eternal Life through Himself. It was touched on briefly when referring to Christianity's baggage. Jesus is so AMAZING! He died for EVERYONE as though we were the ONLY one!
@shane2973 I love that! "He died for us as if we were the ONLY one."
The Lord is beyond amazing! I was thinking just yesterday (as it is Thanksgiving coming soon, things to be thankful for). How amazing his love is ! It's so pure with no hidden agendas. It's love without " if you do these certain things, then I will love you. " . It's just pure love! I'm so thankful he is who he is! ...its so sad how people of the world can't(or won't)see Jesus for who he is. We were condemned to hell, but he loved us enough to die a brutal death, so we no longer have to go to hell if we are willing to come to a point in our life where we will repent of our sins we have done against him and believe on Jesus Christ! His salvation is free to us, but it costs Jesus Christ everything! Now that is Love!
@@charisasmith8554 Christ's salvation is to His people. Nobody can resist the call of God. But only some are called not all. That's why God is sovereign. Only He decides.
@@laocheebye no, God calls to all, that is why we are to witness. He wants to give everyone a chance to accept him as Saviour. Many will refuse his gift of eternal life, but he wants them to accept him as their Saviour, but ultimately its up to each individual.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
not 'heavy' or 'preachy', it seemed sincere and heartfelt. the core of the human heart is the epicentre, indeed.
I admire the teacher’s patience and eloquence even when faced with arrogance, blatant rudeness and a copious amount of self-reighteousness. Lord, help us. Continue to bless this beautiful hearted teacher. “If anyone will not welcome you or heed your words, shake the dust off your feet”
Exactly and AMEN AND AMEN ✝️
Bravo! Exceptionally (and well) said! 👏🏽👏🏻👏🏿
Amen. I noted vocabulary from your comment as i am non english speaker.
I’ve have to asked for forgive and learn and new level of patience twice now watching him lol. Thank You Jesus
Were we watching the same video? 😂 He deflected the question
I love your ending comments. It always strikes me that the gospel is so simple a child can understand it and yet so deep that brilliant scholars and theologians have been studying/debating it forever.
If the gospel were that simple, there wouldn’t be so many sects and lifelong theologians that disagree with each other on it.
@@Tinesthia I think it interesting that I can agree with Nick yet if I said the same thing as Nick to Nick, he would likely not agree with me when he learned my thoughts of what he was saying. Our Creator and his son love all humanity past present and future, it's many of his other sons and daughters that don't yet.
And yet, here you are having NOT read the Gospels, and if you did, you didn't understand it. Because THIS is exactly what Jesus told us NOT to do. He told us to believe what you want, be a good person, and not to concern yourself with what anyone else believes. Care ONLY that others are good people too, by whatever means to come to wanting or being a good person. He told us NOT to proclaim our faith in public or try to prove our faith because that's what hypocrites do. He told us there was NO NEED to prove God's existence. And here you are, not understanding or not ever knowing, or completely ignoring what He said. He was RIGHT.
@@amylathrop8329 Where does it say to believe what you want?
Where also does it say not to profess your faith to non believers?
“And Jesus came and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them inthe name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.””
Matthew 28:18-20 ESV
“So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.”
Matthew 10:32-33.ESV
We cannot be good, only God is good: “And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.”
Mark 10:18 ESV
We must not be quarrelsome, but we must spread the Gospels, and the unbelievers are looking for God, looking for something to fill the God size hole, which are easier to reach than those who heard the Gospel and chose to walk away. Maybe you can clarify what you mean?
@@amylathrop8329
what you're saying is the exact opposite of what the scriptures say. The whole point of being a disciple of Christ is to be a witness for our faith and to share it so that others will believe and be saved. He did not tell us to believe what we want!
"But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.” Acts 1:8
"Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit," Matthew 28:19
"And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation." Mark 16:15
"For Christ did not send me to baptize but to preach the gospel, and not with words of eloquent wisdom, lest the cross of Christ be emptied of its power." 1 Cor 1:17
"And most of the brothers, having become confident in the Lord by my imprisonment, are much more bold to speak the word without fear." Phil 1:14
"For if I preach the gospel, that gives me no ground for boasting. For necessity is laid upon me. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel!" 1 Cor 9:16
"How then will they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how are they to believe in him of whom they have never heard? And how are they to hear without someone preaching?" Rom 10:14
"And how are they to preach unless they are sent? As it is written, “How beautiful are the feet of those who preach the good news!” Rom 10:15
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
"And they said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” Acts 16:31
"Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.” John 6:29
"For since we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so, through Jesus, God will bring with him those who have fallen asleep." 1 Thess 4:14
"and saying, “The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.” Mark
"Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned." Mark 16:16
Atheists like this guy always try to sound smarter than the person they are trying to debate. Bro contradicted himself multiple times and I hope he realized this or realizes it at some point in time. Turek firing on all cylinders once again. Great video.
what do you mean sound smart? bro can you even smart
The funniest part is that you often don't need to be smarter than a theist to win a debate about religion, you just need to be less delusional.
@@isabellalarkin8859Yet, you probably believe the big bang which means nothing became something. Sounds like a religion called Atheism.
@@isabellalarkin8859 The world, especially the western world runs on delusion.
AMEN🙏🏾 Nick's heart is hardened...and he will be eternally punished if he continues. Atheists say, "There is NO God...but, boy do we HATE Him." He is a sad person and, again, if he doesn't accept CHRIST, in HELL he will lift up his eyes🙏🏾
Truly enjoyed the argument as well as your commentary.
There aren’t many times when a message rings so true that my automatic response is ‘Amen, preaching to the choir’, when I’m on UA-cam watching Reactors yet you got one from me today.
I’m glad the algorithm put you in my suggestion list. LCS
The man asking questions didn’t seem to be searching for the truth, he seemed like he was trying to ask questions to make the speaker doubt his faith. Love the speaker’s patience and calmness
That's exactly right. They think they got the "silver bullet" that will cause any rationally minded person to reject Christianity "because it's stupid".
Atheists have no clue how utterly brainwashed they are.
But the speaker didn't answer his question...
False. The student was challenging his faith. Imagine claiming something is real and you can't prove it. None of us knows the actual truth about what's out there but having thousands of religions and thousands of gods there's an issue here. If one of these is the truth then there would be ONE religion and ONE god. You do the math from now
To challenge his faith, the man asking questions should have listened to what the speaker was saying, and he should’ve been there from the beginning to be able to have a debate or to be able to share different perspectives. That man came during the q&a with just the intention of putting his perspective, he didn’t come prepared nor with the intention of listening and sharing. It was a one way road of him saying that God doesn’t exist.
@@kkp5556 what was he supposed to listen? "God is real" "Jesus is real and died for our sins" "Jesus loves you" we've heard ALL of that already and the guy knew it. There's nothing more to talk about. If you can't prove something your so sure exists then just say that. Don't try and tell people that God doesn't exist in this universe. That just creates a bunch of "what if's" and still not proving it. If somebody challenges you, you have to be ready. If you don't have proof then you can't win a debate. Religion always takes the L because of lack of evidence
These kids believe they are a lot smarter than they really are. Good on them to have the confidence to challenge someone with a far far greater and superior level of knowledge than theirs on a subject that they obviously have far less knowledge about than Turek. I hope they see and accept when they are humbled and take that lesson with them. These kids are our future and I love seeing their confidence and blossoming intellect at work in these debates.
You seem to be contradicting yourself
Usually wrong conclusions are made to lack of information. In Nick's case he is in denial as per James Warner Wallace. Grace
LOL turek is a joke
All of Turek's verbal gymnastics couldn't save him from logic and facts,
@@DiggitySlice in what way my friend?
He's not only missing the point of his own question and how it should be answered, he's not giving full opportunity for Frank to answer him completely and that never amounts to much. He doesn't present as someone genuinely interested in truth because if that were so, then he would hear out, completely,each response to each question without interrupting and muddying the exchange.
I just want to say thank you for the commentary, and thank you for allowing time for the video to play.
I am from South Africa , and regarding with what you said about hearing the Gospel for the first time vs the baggage , i am shocked seeing on youtube mostly American people not believing in God and the Godlessness in America and Europe , but also i have seen great people in America beliving in God like people on your channel , comparing South Africa to America and Europe and the rest of the world i am glad that we are very conservative and do not share the rest of the world's Godlessnes, it is absolutely shocking, but then again it all depends on one's point of view , keep up the good fight
This guy should just say what he wants to say. People like him want to sound so educated and liberal and open minded when what he’s really asking is “why don’t you stop believing in your religion so that I can feel better about other religions?” There is a reason this guy talks about Christianity the way he does, he wouldn’t question hindi, Islam, buddhism to same way. One of Gods greatest characteristics is that he doesn’t force himself on anyone.
God is a fairytale.
Actually he was comparing all them stating that they are all the same depending on who u ask. Take yourself and your feelings out of the equation and compare all religions. Just think their religion is special because they think they feel it in their heart. All he is saying is everyone has just as much conviction about their religion as the others and all arguments for each religion can apply to the other one.
Travis, that's precisely what Turek tries to do in his presentations. I'm not sure who it is Nick thinks is saying that the believers in each religion don't believe in their religion. Pointing out that they do is a tautology but it says nothing whatsoever about the truth or falsehood of Christianity. That remains to be decided on other grounds, which were covered during the presentation Nick missed.
@@chrisclark7170Prove that GOD is a fairytale. Where's your evidence to back up your statement?
@@chrisclark7170 It was almost like a fairytale when he delivered me from the satanic cult I was a member of. His deliverance and work in y life was greater than I can explain. Jesus is my LORD and SAVIOUR, not because of what I did, but because of whet HE did. Jesus loves you Chris.
"A little heavy, a little preachy". Not at all. Amen brother. Your closing statements in this video were my favorite part of this video. More of that please.
Okay, well thank you! 🙏❤️
Not too heavy and not too preachy for me. Thank you for this message. God bless you!
I wish Nick listened. He's asking all these questions but he doesn't seem to be interested in having a conversation. A virtue in life is listening. Not always easy to do when we're impatient. I've learnt I can be very impatient. Patience takes respect and humilty.
It takes a lot of patience to have dialogues like this.
For sure. It's so tempting after hearing theists blurt out nonsense to call them delusional and move on with your day, but to continuously listen to the broken logic and try to counter it is commendable. This is likely why most yt atheists who make commentary on religion are some of the kindest, most patient people on the entire platform.
@@isabellalarkin8859 Isabella, do not leave where you'll be after your time on this earth in question. If you want to see people who have already pulled back the curtain look up John Ramirez's testimony.
At What point point does the Verse....do not cast your pearls before the swine come into the discussion.....because God has given it for EVERY person born to know that there is a God....no matter how much people deny it. I wouldn't have time for this.
Imagine coming into a presentation late to aska question that was covered in the presentation, and then thinking that Dawkins is some kind of esoteric text that Frank isn't aware of.
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
We don't have to imagine, it happened. Blessings
The time of his arrival has no impact on the truth of his rhetoric. Turek got his ass kicked by an armature from his audience.
@@propagandakiller632 The time of his arrival should make him give pause. You can't make an educated rebuttal without hearing the presentation.
@@propagandakiller632 You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Am a hindu, been to a Catholic School, it was a great experience, got to know about other faiths and we used to celebrate Christmas and diwali alike in school with all the fathers and sisters and teachers , honestly I never felt any difference between between faiths I love my krishana and I loved visiting my school church too, my friends and I still visit our school on Christmas.
If your questioning someone at least listen to what the other have to say and not interrupt in between
Just recently found this channel - thankful for your faithfulness in spreading the word ! Great work, brother 🙏
This guy walks in late, having missed 90% of the presentation, and proceeds to heckle the teacher. He's lucky that anyone took him seriously. If it hadn't been an important question, most teachers would have blown him off. "Come see me after class. Other students actually came to listen. I'll see you later."
He's lucky the class didn't sit him down
“I already read it” is my favorite part so far. 😂
Yet he remains oddly ignorant. Wilfully so I imagine
@@JP-je6jg woefully
@@TheKingwalker22 yes it is sadly woeful
Awesome my brother great message at the end. This was a way God spoke to me about always having a word ready. I pray your staying enthusiastic about your channel because it is helping so many people.
Dave from Canada
A story I love that illustrates the error Nick makes is the story of the blind men that encounter the elephant - each makes different claims - ‘long and skinny like the tail’, ‘broad and rough like the side’, ‘thick like a tree (trunk)’. This is often used to say the blind men are all wrong (like Nick is claiming about religions). The error is the storyteller is claiming to see the whole elephant but we are all equally ‘blind’.
A theist in your example would have no hand on the elephant at all, because while the blind people are fumbling about trying to discover the truth they are all actually dealing in *evidence*, and a theist is only dealing in *faith*.
Completely different.
@@adamsalazar8214 Faith is not inherently without evidence and everyone must deal in faith to a degree because absolutely nothing is certain -- entropy exists.
The kid is also hiding behind Burden of Proof and thinking that believers are the only ones with the burden.
They are the ones making a claim something exists!
God does not have to prove himself. The proof is in fact out there but in truth we are to have faith. Carry on not believing and soon you will be woke up in a giant way
@mirandahotspring4019 that isn't true at all. Use your head. Athiests assert there is no creator. Believers assert there is.
That is COMPLETELY dishonest to think that athiests don't have a truth claim.
You are hiding behind this idea that the natural world is the baseline and you don't have to prove anything. Basic philosophy proves that is nonsense.
@@mikepotter6426 Does that apply to the remote uncontacted Amazonian tribes that have never heard of your god, the billion or so Hindu who have their own gods, and all the others who have different beliefs? How arrogant you have to be to believe that!
@mirandahotspring4019 you mean *God, when you say god you're not talking about our God but a man made idol. Jesus can reach anyone in many many ways, if they are uncontacted then how would anyone know what they believe? You surely couldn't as you have not contacted them.
Thank you.
Your ministry is important.
My daughter was raised in Christianity and has now decided she is an atheist.
Im sorry! I pray that she would come to her senses & come home to God ❤️
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Your prayers are appreciated ❤️
Well what gospel do you believe
Seeds planted. You did your job
She sounds like a sensible young woman. I congratulate her.
The gospel is never too heavy or preachy. It is TRUTH!
Imagine being a movie reviewer and walking in to interview Tom Cruise about his new Top Gun movie but you haven’t even watched it. You’re critical about it but you haven’t even watched it. That’s what Nick did right here and it shows his lack of character and disrespect for others. Nick should have had the decency to listen to Frank’s lecture and then ask questions. These types of people are not interested in the truth because they don’t want to be accountable for their own sins. If they were interested in the truth, they would seek it out like Frank and so many other former atheists have done. If Nick was interested in finding the truth, he would have listened to Frank’s lecture before asking questions.
Good point, and here’s some evidence: You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
I agree with you. How Nick has the nerve to get up and waste Frank’s time and also the time of members of the audience who have sat through the lecture and know what has been discussed, I don’t know. Nick worships his own ego by the looks of it.
It does not matter how much you know about god if god does not excist.then you know less then tje guy that knew he didnt exist.duh
@@GhostWriter-wt8pb PAY ATTENTION; I just proved 4 different ways That God is real, and he wrote the Bible, so what you said was a guess! a loving God Has To show evidence and he has!
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
@@louiseng7272 here’s the evidence the guy is looking for;
You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God!
Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth!
Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny!
Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers!
God authored the Bible!
DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication?
1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion!
One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled!
Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“!
Psalm 139 is about the human body!
Every time I listen my faith is strengthened. Thank you.
Love the content, brother! I know you’re committed to being objective and fair, but Nick was the reason this discussion was going off course. Nick came to monologue, not dialogue. Nick came to play gotcha, frank came to teach. Nick was combative, Frank was calm
I agree, Nick seemed frustrated and frightened the more Frank would knock down the false doctrine from the book, 'The God Delusion." Nick seemed desperate when he couldn't achieve his goal, poor kid. Too bad he arrived so late that he missed all the hard facts Frank had for him, and probably would've just left at that point.
Confidence is Latin for Con Fide = With Faith. Everyone, because we are made in the image of God, live by faith. Thank you STB!
When someone demonstrates that they are unwilling or unable to listen...stop talking, move on.
Nick: I'll give you The God Delusion.
Frank: I already read it. 😂😂😂
And he is still delusional
@@lisaann5895 yeah a lot less delusional to believe that nothing created everything 😂
Missionary kid here, I just wanted to say that if you live in America you should not take the “Christian Environment” of America for granted. While cultural Christianity can be harmful, Christianity in America is a blessing that many American Christians don't fully understand. I'm not usually one to say “Check your privilege,” but you really should.
As someone who lives in a country with cultures that have no Christian foundation, I can attest to this.
A western atheist would be more accurately described as an heretical christian.
I'm in America, and your statement is true. Having said that, we have predominately lost Christian culture in this country and are living on the fumes of our Judeo/Christian heritage. Still, we see many blessings because of the heritage in spite of America's increasing depravity and rejection of God.
@@wandertreeyes, so true. I totally agree, I guess I should've been more clear in my original post.
I don't know 10 churches in my entire country whose doctrinal statements I could sign, whereas I know so many churches in America whose doctrinal statement I could sign. America has a lot of great churches and no American Christian should take that for granted.
Where are you from? If you dont mind. The middle east?
Yes, thank you. I will check my privilege. Yes, GOD BLESS! I WON'T take my blessings for granted.😇🤩🙏🏻
Love the premise of the video and have said it for years.
An assertion that got doesn’t exist is an affirmative claim equally responsible for the burden of proof.
Great work. Keep going!
I remember this moment as clear as day. I was and still am an active duty soldier and all I wanted to do was sit down and listen to Dr.Frank Turek. When this gentlemen walked up (me left shoulder, it took every ounce of the Holy Spirit for me not to lose it. Just listening to the way he spoke and the disrespect had me up the hills. Again, with military as my background, respect is a must. Ever since then, I haven’t stepped into college ground.. thanks Turek for doing what I and others probably don’t have the patience in doing.
Grow up dear🤭
@@trumpbellend6717 Do you know that their was an insult that would make a Viking obligated to kill you. Some people value respect more then you, and I am pretty sure you wouldn't tell a Viking grow up.
@@viperstriker4728
Lol sorry dear I don't "respect" anyone that thinks our moral status the result of a talking snake convincing a rib woman and mud figurine man to eat a magic fruit against the wishes of an invisible being who thinks it moral to *_"kill all the males from amongst the little ones"_* 🤢🤮
@@trumpbellend6717 telling him to grow up? How old are you?
@@thomashasty2936
Lol old enough to have realised more than 50 years ago the absurdity of belief in the biblical narratives dear. 🤫
Yes Praise Jesus. Join the narrow road, might be narrow but not hard. I say this by my testimony. A born and bought up hindu, saw worst part of life. Was mentally ill and eventually physically ill and almost certain to die and no hope from doctors( they called me abnormal).
So started to search god, visited temples, recited prayers and atlast Jesus came to me and here I am alive and having life in abundance. No more mental or physical illness that too without pill(recovered in hardly 2-3 months after I met Jesus i.e and in the time when doctors had already declared me abnormal). I Praise him with my testimony.😊
So, way might be narrow, but not hard.Bcoz it is by his grace we are saved not by our works. And thus I can say confidently that there is God and that Jesus is God.😊
It is simpler than we think. Question is who do people see when they have a "near death experience" that is they died and came back to life. Well people see Jesus Christ. It is easy to believe when the person is Christian. Christians are not the only people with near death experiences, Who do Muslims or Hindus or any other religion see? Testimony exists. Who is on the other side of death? Dive in and research. Share what you find.
I always enjoy your videos but, the loving, caring and compassion that you displayed during your invitation to all people to come to the loving arms of Christ, at the end of your video was absolutely beautiful and refreshing. Blessings to you for your example of Christ's love. Thanks for sharing.
"ill give you the book called "THE GOD DELUSION""
"Frank says, "IVE ALREADY READ IT!!"
I laughed so hard on that and...like seriously mic drop.
Honestly to think an apologist wouldn’t at least be aware of that book and already have a response is so naive.
I like what you said at the end. It reminds me of what I like to tell people like Nick. I’ve heard others say it as well, so it’s out there. I tell them: Consider this, if I’m wrong, and you’re right, then , when we both die someday, we are just no more and that’s it. Nothing either one of us can do about it. But, if I’m right, and you’re wrong, then I get to live for eternity with my Lord and Savior with whom I love. And the best part of it all is, it’s free. You on the other hand will live in eternal damnation where their is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
I go on to tell them that I, nor anyone else is forcing you to believe. It’s up to you, and you alone. So what do you care that I believe, and you don’t. If you’re convinced that you’re right, then let me be. Im doing nothing to you. Unless of course, you have doubt in what you’re saying, and are looking for answers.
…..then the conversation really begins…..
Wow! Thanks! ❤
No man can resist God. Those that have ears they will hear. Those that have eyes they will see. God only came to save His people. There will be gnashing of teeth no matter who is right or wrong. God decides because He is sovereign.
Why I care is because while you're titled to believe any bullshit you have been indoctrinated with what you do not have the right to do , which Christians do ,do is impose by various means your supposed gods laws, your tenets, dogma and doctrines of your religion on me, I would like nothing better than to leave you alone, and will do so the minute you reciprocate.
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God doesn't send anyone to Hell. But it's that person's Will is the reason they go to Hell.
Dr. Frank Turek is a gift for the body of Christ. Thank you for sharing this video...short duration _big idea !
Thank you also for including J. Warner Wallace explanation on objectivity of truth & objective claim of Christianity.❤
"I see a paradox that no one tells about" if it starts like this i know it will be something dumb.
Your commentary was beautiful! Thank you for this!
if you're going to ask a question, slow down, and listen for and to the answers.
Asking to prove a point is not a good way of learning.
It's not asking it's "preaching a point" but not following any logic.
It's literally repeating what you have heard.
When you have to speak so fast to overtalk others YOU'RE NOT ASKING TO LISTEN.
This is powerful, thank you bro! God Bless you all! ✝️🙏🏽♥️🔥
Really loving your videos. God is working through you, it’s really great to see. Thank you for the solid work and please, don’t stop now!
Thank you for the encouragement! Many have been lied to. All Glory to God for sending us His son!
The biggest takeaway from this is our belief is based on opinion, and our opinion doesn’t make anything factual. Facts are facts regardless of what we believe.
I appreciate what you do and the platform that God has blessed you with🙌🏻
I used to think like that guy.. When you have a spiritual encounter there is no amount of "evidence" that can tell you that what you have experienced is not real. The Bible is full of people that have had spiritual encounters. Have faith and seek Him, then you will find the truth too.
Thank you for your time to spread this message. So glad I found your channel. 😇🙏
You’re welcome!
Nick: "Yap yap yap yap?"
Frank: "Answ -"
Nick: "Let me interupt again."
He didn't want answers, he wanted to make claims.
A Christian, a Muslim, a Hindu, and a Buddhist were seated at a table, facing north, south, east, and west respectively. When asked to identify the center of the table, the Christian pointed north, the Muslim south, the Hindu east, and the Buddhist west. Observing this, an atheist who had been watching from the sidelines concluded with a degree of certainty, "The center of the table does not exist!"
Wrong, the Muslim would murder the Christian. The Hindu would say direction doesn’t exist, and the Buddhist would be starving himself to death.
Or, a different atheist would say, the centre of the table is the centre of the table and none of those around the table are looking in the right place.
The joke is flawed, if the words 'centre of the table' are replaced with god, as the joke implies, then the only logical conclusion made by the atheist (assuming he or she is rational) would be that each person has a different idea and the existance of god cannot be boiled down to a single idea based on their diverse cultural interpretations.
The centre of the table is there in the joke, and undeniable. The atheist would be able to see it. The joke is almost funny, but not written cleverly enough to work. The fact that god is not visible is what leads, amongst many other factors, to atheists not having the belief in god (s).
An atheist needs proof of existance, therefore the centre of the table provides that in this case. If the table was invisible, and claimed by those around it to be there (irrespectove of where they are pointing) I would want its existance proven by putting a glass on it.
If the glass falls, I will suspend my belief until such time as evidence is demonstrated.
@@clarkegibson464 Actually, the more accurate scenario would involve the group arguing over how the table got there. The Christian would claim to know who built the table, and that he knows the builder personally. The Muslim would claim to know who built the table, but call the Christian a blasphemer because the builder of the table is far too important to talk to just anybody. I don't know much about Buddhism or Hinduism, but I suspect they would claim that there were many builders of the table. The atheist isn't even sitting at the table. He just stands there above the rest, mocking them for even claiming there was a builder to begin with. The atheist would claim that the table needs no builder, that its intricate design is simply a matter of many coincidences happening over a long period of time. The atheist claims that the existence of the table is not sufficient evidence to support the claim that there is a builder.
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Absolute GENIUS 👌🏾
Wow. Crazily stupid play on words to astound the ….. stupid.
The atheist from the corner of the room literally has a perspective of the flawed rationale of the people at the table and with science and logic dispute the single mindedness of the people at the table and work out where the centre of the table is precisely.
Almost a perfect analogy for religion😁
I was deeply involved into the New Age and witchcraft of all sorts. Both of my grandmother's performed miracles I've seen with my eyes. I have seen tarot readings with 100% accuracy and at one point I tried manifesting my girlfriend because I thought I was actually god. Anyways the Lord opened my eyes slowly and he delivered me from a narcissistic relationship. But in all of this I thought ( God saved me so now he is going to save my relationship ). I started being angry with God and questioned how is he Sovereign and why did he allow those New Age demons and etc to fool me for years in the first place and give me a counter-feit relationship. I got a response to my prayer in a day. I cried almost the entire day. I realized I was born a Christian ( who didn't know his Bible ), but the moment I started seeing all of those false demonic teachings and miracles I ate them like bread. I am a worthless garbage , I realized even as I was repenting my heart posture was ( I am repenting for real this time, maybe he will give me a miracle or restore me). God is not our vending machine and we are not saved by our works, we are all worthless sinners, only He is worthy.
I think it's ok to listen to someone challenge your authority and not have to justify yourself. Every conversation doesn't have to be an endless debate. Simply respond, "OK, thank you for sharing your opinion. Are you asking a question because you want to know something, or is your question just a jab? And if you are humble enough to admit you have a desire for knowledge, can you listen with an open mind? Good! Let's begin. Or, ok. Thank you for your thoughts.
Wow! 1st time watching your show. I really enjoyed that; top notch. Thank you. I subscribed immediately. God be with us and we enter 2024. I have a feeling we're gonna need it.
I've been through so many of these types of conversations with non-believers that I think I'm finally coming around to the idea that learning how to get past their defenses and getting to the real person is the missing ingredient in our modern Evangelical evangelism. That you can't get from watching Christian debates online. In fact, I am beginning to think that this approach is actually just another impediment. A substitute for the real thing, which is learning how to be much more personal. It's as if Frank here is just dealing with this young man's "smoke screen" that he has erected to hide his real person. Nick doesn't care whether there's a God or not. Frank does it extremely well, but I wonder if it's not merely "the seed that fell along the path" kind of evangelism. We have to do better than just learning how to answer their objections.
I'm inclined to agree but I think this is what Jesus meant by "doing greater works". As in a multitude of different ppl have different ministries for reaching different types of ppl...(since Jesus' short ministry was primarily to the Jews).
These intellectual apologetics work for some ppl where emotional appeals might fail. But for me I've never been swayed by these kind of apologetic arguments, (but then again I was born & rasied in a Christian household). The main reason I watch videos like this is to learn different methods for witnessing to others (since a lot of American churches neglect to prioritize teaching its converts how to spread the Gospel).
Oh yeah, don’t think that I am dismissing this type of thing as useless or of no value. They are of great value. All I’m really trying to get at is that one should not think that this is what you want to get good at. The”aim of our charge” isn’t to be able to win arguments, although we should learn how to “destroy arguments and every proud obstacle to the knowledge of God” but that should come AFTER our own obedience is complete.
But the “greater works than these will be do” is referring to is enabling one to enter into eternal life, since every one of the people Jesus healed all died anyway, so granting eternal life through us is of even greater works than physical miracles, all of which are simply typologies of spiritual transformations.
Jesus reached people by loving them. Forgiving them. Showing kindness, love, mercy, forgiveness, even for His enemies, which is unheard of in our society. He was humble and rejected no one. He didn't look down on others, but saw that we're all sinful and broken, and He loved us, unconditionally, and sacrificially, that's what reaches people. It's God's love and grace that inspires change. Jesus came to save, not condemn, but so many times, as Christians, we judge and condemn others which pushes them further away from God, because when we reject them, they think that God does also, when He doesn't. It's Good News.
Just sharing...
The real problem with non-believers is that, when they ask for evidence of God, and you give them evidence, they refuse to accept it as evidence. Suppose I told an historian that I don't believe George Washington was a real person. So the historian gives me a list of evidence like his grave site, his writings, a painting, a granite monument, his hand written signature on documents, testimonies from witnesses, results of military campaigns, his house, and so on but I immediately reject all of them claiming that every one on them can be faked. The historian would consider me deranged. But this is essentially what non-believers are doing. They won't accept any evidence no matter how good. Richard Dawkins recently said in an interview, "If all the stars were rearranged to spell out 'I am God' I still wouldn't believe it. I would think it was aliens messing with us." That statement pretty much summarizes how non-believers think.
When you can’t use the term “paradox” correctly, but it sounds cool…
Thank you so much for this. Video you shared was good, also loved the wrap up and no worries if you feel like it was preaching. God bless
Brilliant presentation, thank you so much for putting this together.
I Pray many who need this information will see this very post.
*_God Bless_*
Thank you Brandon, for for doing what you do and putting so much effort in your videos🙏🏼❤️
your channel is amazing. Dont ever stop doing this.
I love the confidence the gentleman has in asking his question. It takes a lot of courage to ask a question in a room like this. The answer he gets is awesome!
Beautiful presentation of the gospel at the end. Thank you. You’ve won my subscription!
To be honest, it's very difficult to PERSUADE soneone (especially someone with a powerful intellect) of a spiritual point. My own experience is that that person must first live enough and love enough and worry enough and struggle enough, enough to come to the absolute dead-end of his mind. He must expreience deeply and suffer terribly, bitterly from the limitations of his own intellect. Then he will, because he must, throw up his hands and admit that his mind is not getting him anywhere useful. THEN and only then the door cracks open, and this type of "how to resolve this paradox, how to address this conundrum" type of conversation will simply disappear because there is no need for it.
Exactly my experience! God is goood ❤
It’s Actually not a powerful intellect, it’s a Hardened Heart-
If he indeed had a powerful intellect he could prove there is no God. Instead he trying to get Nick to resolve a paradox that doesn’t exist- He’s arguing subjective Truth when We, Christian believe in Objective Truth
That what makes The Day Jesus returns so Awesome & so Terrible- so Beautiful and yet so dreadful- Atheism is a temporary position. That’s Why the Bible says the Fool has said in his heart there is no God- After all this fruitless articulation, What words will
Atheists use when they stand before the God the spent the Entire Life denying the existence of? “My Bad”? Ok I have proof now I believe- Then they’ll say “Lord Lord”. And He’ll say depart from Me, Ye worker of iniquity, I never knew you…. That’s Dreadful. You snuggly debated the person who took time to present you with the Truth that could save your soul.
Frank is awesome!
Your comments at the end made me sob with joy and truth and gratitude for my Savior!
To be honest , I have studied Buddhism Islam and Hinduism for a period of time and it became quick knowledge to me that many of those religions the followers do not have any garuntee that they will enter heaven-Moksha(Hinduism), Nirvana(Buddhism), or Jannah(Islam)
People in general may appear confident in the anything they hold dear to themselves, but if you ask anyone how they feel their chances are getting into heaven they always say they don’t know or it’s “If Allah wills” or “hopefully I get reincarnated into something good”, really they are placing their faith on chance rather than something firm.
That’s the difference between worldly confidence and being Confident in Christ. We have the eternal Guarantee because of what Our God did for us at the cross!
Man please....so God died ???
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As usual, awesome and informative! Thank you and God bless ✝️
I don’t think he knows the definition of a paradox
He does not. And then he offers some small humility in suggesting it's perhaps semantics. But he doesn't understand what "semantics" means either. You can't back away from the poverty of your position by claiming the words you used are insufficient and then inserting presumed thoughts and points--presumed because you haven't even the skill to make them, let alone defend them. Some words and "semantics" that would be particularly useful for him? The thousands that were shared during a discussion he didn't even bother to attend. It's probably safe to deduce he's quite sure he already knows what would have been said. It's EVIDENT that he does not.
@@josephlacko4757 truth
I hope God softens this man heart.
Wouldn't it be awesome to see nick one day actually become a Christian apologist ❤
Yes! 🙏
I'm working on being able to think like that, but presently I'm imagining him with a broken nose. God still has a lot of work left to do on me. Getn there...
@@flyingtime5501 what good work God starts in you , He will finish 💪
You're going through a sanctification process, me too, lots of people deserve a broken nose imo also 😂 however....that's the old man talking
We're slowly becoming the new man, walking with Christ. That's going to take time.
Keep surrendering to Christ, it takes courage to get it done.
Keep going Christian brother 🙏
@@MrWackywilson Thanks...you too
@@flyingtime5501 I've time to pray for you bro
I'll do that now after this text, I'll just pray the Lord watches over you, stay your hand from anger and temptation, guide your walk and that the spirits voice you continue to listen to over your own 🙏
Be the light to others 🕯️
Till we meet in the kingdom 📖
So this kid hopped in late to the discussion just to tell everyone they are wrong about believing in God and his opinion is correct.
Perhaps he will grow up some day and realize how little he know.
Nick just wants to hear himself talk.
This was great, the best part were your thoughts at the end. I struggle with explaining to non believers and this will help me thank you
I'm a practicing catholic and obviously a Christian but this young man is articulate, intelligent, and has well thought out argument. I'll give him that, many non believers aren't able to voice there opinions this well. Can't be angry at him and I'll pray for him to come and know the lord.
What lord should he get to know though? And why is yours the "only" real one?
The worst day our childhood's is when we learned Santa Claus isn't actually real.
Lol, no, no he isn't.
The fact that you don't know who he is, very sad.
lol maybe there is a misunderstanding.... im talking about the host of "daily dose of wisdom...@@MrBumpy2013
@@MrBumpy2013 there are 8 billion people on this planet. I'm more concerned about why you'd know them.
I'm halfway thru the bible with studying what I read, and it's amazing. Reading the Bible and the recent discoveries being made and what we are still finding is all adding . Kinda scary
Read the Quran next, then the Hindu Vedas, then the Tibetan book of the dead
@geoffreyporter530 the quran confirms the books before it (the gospels and torah) are true then the quran is false.