Student Tries To DISPROVE GOD Then ADMITS His Real Problem (Heated Q&A!)
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- In this video, a student in a Q&A line tries to disprove God and accuses Frank Turek of using an argument from ignorance ("God of the Gaps"), a fairly heated debate ensues & then the student ultimately admits something very revealing in answer to a pointed question presented to him by Dr. Turek. I hope you find this helpful!
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Hey,
just wanted to share the Gospel that all men need, the Bible says all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God (Romans 3:23) this means we all deserve death and separation from a perfect and holy God. But God did not leave us for dead, He sent His only begotten Son to die in yours and my place, so that anyone who believes in Him and repents of sin will be saved from separation from God, and have eternal life! I urge you please put your faith in Jesus Christ and follow Him, He promises to save all who cry out to Him and have a humble heart. We arent guaranteed another day so we must repent of sin and seek Him today while He may be found.
ACCORDING to Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and all Religions -
1. the Creator is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the True and Sovereign God
2. Jesus Christ is worthless, useless, and undeserving to be honored and respected as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
But Atheists, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Muslims, and all Religions can't change the TRUTHS about the Creator and his Christ into LIES and DECEITS.
Thousands of years and nothing has changed, the TRUTH remains...
ETERNAL LIFE and existence on Earth without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death
is still
the loving, kind, and merciful Creator's favor and reward
NOT to Atheists, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, and all mockers and haters of the Creator and his Christ but
ONLY to all lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who honor and obey Jesus Christ as their loving, kind, and merciful Master and Heavenly King and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
The "RESURRECTION of the DEAD"
is
NOT for Liars and arrogant, deceitful, cruel, and merciless persons
but
ONLY for all loving, kind, and respectful Worshippers of Creator who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others,
they will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of the Creator and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as the Creator's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth.
Not only does this not make any sense, but also there is no evidence that what the bible says is true.
@bortron2180 I hope you keep seeking with an open heart
@@bortron2180 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
- 1 Corinthians 2:11, 14
You have to ask…. Who made the rules that we break? Who decided the punishment for breaking those rules? Who decided what the payment should be? And, lastly, did he know what we would choose, before he made those rules in the first place?
This is what drives me nuts. They ask for physical proof. Even if they saw God with their own eyes, they wouldn't follow Christ. Proof is not what is holding them back. It's pride.
You're assuming if they saw god, it would be the Christian god. What if Vishnu was revealed to them? Or one of the hundreds of other gods people believe in?
The only reason you say that is because you know "God" isn't going to appear.
@@mirandahotspring4019Hello. Because no other god tells the future like the living God of the bible. There is none beside Him the bible says.
What exactly even COULD be proof that isn’t physical???? What other option is there???
@@charlestiraco8634 Same claim as every other religion. Yawn.
I was an atheist for 29 years. I always told my friends that if God gave me evidence to believe that I would serve Him. 8 months ago He came to me, and I don't serve Him as faithfully as I thought I would. But I've learned His grace is patient and loving, and I'm devoted to glorifying Him above all else!
How do you know it was GOD and not the devil disguised as GOD?
@ClearWaters-kv8bn if He proclaimed Jesus Christ died amd rose again abolishing death, it was the Almighty.
@@ClearWaters-kv8bn fair point. Does the devil want me to forgive people?
@@reneerolandgraceinyourface If the devil fooled Adam and Eve after they received direct instructions from GOD in the garden of Eden, what makes you think he can not fool you too by just repeating a few words?
@ClearWaters-kv8bn So the devil wants me to worship Jesus, forgive those who hurt me, and to help as many people worship God as I can? Weird
“Science doesn’t say anything. Scientists do.”
That’s gonna go over a lot of heads.
I was right, it did.
“There are only two possibilities as to how life arose. One is spontaneous generation arising to evolution; the other is a supernatural creative act of God. There is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation, that life arose from non-living matter was scientifically disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasture and others. That leaves us with the only possible conclusion that life arose as a supernatural creative act of God. I will not accept that philosophically because I do not want to believe in God. Therefore, I choose to believe in that which I know is scientifically impossible; spontaneous generation arising to evolution.” (Dr. George Wald, professor emeritus of biology at Harvard University. Nobel Prize winner in biology) “ONE IS FORCED TO CONCLUDE THAT MANY SCIENTISTS AND TECHNOLOGISTS PAY LIP-SERVICE TO DARWINIAN THEORY ONLY BECAUSE IT SUPPOSEDLY EXCLUDES A CREATOR”Dr. Michael Walker, Senior Lecturer - Anthropology, Sydney University.Quadrant, October 1982, page 44.
EDIT: I am editing this post as I only want to spread truth. It has been pointed out that the article I posted above heavily paraphrased the original quote from Dr. Wald in August 1954 in Scientific American on pages 44-53. After going over the article from a transcription critical of the above quote I will amend the paraphrased quote above to the following paraphrased quote to render a more accurate usage of the Dr's words. I have followed the APA style guide for paraphrasing.
Dr. George Wald, Hardvard Professor and Nobel Prize winner in Physiology or Medicine, opined in Scientific American, August 1954 volume on pages 44-53 about the realities of Abiogensis (previously called Spontaneous Generation when considered at a macro level) versus Special Creation as the origin of life on Earth. There are only two possibilities as to how life arose. One is spontaneous generation; the other is a supernatural creative act of God. There is no third possibility. Spontaneous generation was scientifically disproved through a series of experiments by numerous scientists over a hundred years and finally by Louis Pasteur in 1860. That leaves us with the only possible conclusion that life arose as a supernatural creative act of God. I will not accept that philosophically because I am unwilling to accept the alternative belief in special creation. A scientist has no choice but to approach the origin of life through a hypothesis of spontaneous generation even though it is untenable under present conditions. I choose to believe organisms have arisen spontaneously under different conditions in some former period over long time periods, and that time can perform miracles.
@@RickStewart1776funny how the vast majority of biologists don’t believe in a god. When you ever come up with evidence for the supernatural, let us know. Until then it’s just another claim made by sheep herders.
Scientists say themselves that finding answers always leads to more questions, every time. They're basically admitting Frank Turek is right. Yeah.
@@RickStewart1776 Evolution is a fact. We've seen it happen, and we see it happening. The science of biology rests firmly on it and makes no sense without it. The only people who dispute it are people who don't know dick about it, and have beliefs that they have to guard. The kicker is, even if you were to discredit the millions of scientists who have been adding to the evidence and verifying the evolutionary conclusion for the last 165 years, it wouldn't prove that a god did it...that would require its own evidence.
@@too1leasyfalse. The God of the Bible is eternal, so he doesn’t come from anything. No beginning no end, because he is not bound by space time or matter. You’re putting God in a box and limiting him however he has no limits thus defeating your statement. God is not bound by the laws of nature. And every scientist agrees time space and matter had to come into existence at the same time so when the continuum came into existence something outside of it had to cause it.
It's a matter of self convincing. I had an uncle who said, even if God existed, he wouldn't follow Him. These are the same people who say they want free will, then ask why there is so much pain and hurt in the world. The problem is not the evidence that is so abundant, but, their self perceived and convinced reasons why they don't want God.
SELF CONVINCING! Do you really mean SELF DELUSION.
Your uncle was an HONEST MAN, as for the abundant evidence, THERE IS NONE.
What you think is EVIDENCE is just conjecture, NOT EVIDENCE.
The EVIDENCE FOR EVOLUTION IS BEYOND ABUNDANT IT CAN BE PROVEN.
But I suspect that you will not accept it.
There is NO FREE WILL, real free will would come with NO CONDITIONS, no threats of eternal pain and suffering.
However everything you claim that comes from a LOVING GOD HAS VOLUMES OF CONDITIONS ATTACHED.
This has resulted in a perhaps the most VILE practice of all called SHUNNING, THAT HAS TORN FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES APART.
It's always a heart problem disguised as a mind problem.
When the heart isn't right it troubles the mind.
You can believe and claim it's a heart problem all you want but you don't know the hearts and minds of unbelievers. I was a Christian for 30+ years and now an atheist for the last 15 months or so. I never wanted to be an atheist. I miss having a personal savior and a Church family but I can't unlearn all the evidence that un-supports the Christian faith. At the end of the day I could not and still cannot honestly defend the Christian position because it is so full of holes and special pleading.
The guy in this video is right that it is a big jump to go from deism to a specific brand of theism.
@@icypirate11 You never knew the Lord, so you were never a Christian. You were a churchian.
@@lawrence1318 Sure. 🙄
I too believed in once-saved-always-saved. If my born-again experience and personal relationship with Jesus was all made up in my head for 30+ years, your experience could be all made up in your head as well.
@@icypirate11 So you admit you never knew the Lord but simply thought you did. Thus you are wrong when you say you were a Christian.
The conditional, hypothetical question that Turek asks, “If Christianity were true, would you become a Christian?” tends to reveal the answerer’s mode of thinking. If this were a case of pure intellect and search for truth, the answer would (I’d say almost always) be a “Yes”. If they answer “No,” you have to enquire further, as the answer implies not a search for truth in the mind, but an obstacle of truth in the heart.
Edit: I predict many will not be able to answer "Yes" to this question and be contrarian, even given the (in our example) truth-value of Christianity. "X is the truth, everything else is false. Do you choose X or Y?" "Y, please."
Very well put!
Joshua is always on point
Indeed, which is also when I asks atheist to name the Pros and Cons of Faith and also for Fear. They only mention fear.
And the Zionists had better watch their criticisms because the religious right are some of their biggest mindless supporters of their rule over Isreal 🤣
And the Zionists had better watch their criticisms because the religious right are some of the biggest mindless supporters of their rule over Isreal 🤣
“If God exists would you become a Christian?”
- “no, I’m more empathetic than God”.
Pride. Mankind’s downfall, as well as Lucifer’s. It is astounding that anyone would think they know better than the creator. I understand why God weeps for us. Thank God for his mercy.
Imagine two people disagree with the majority of people in Country X
1. Person A drowns the entire country to death except one small family that he has build an ark.
2. Person B has conversations with the people in that country, trying to convince them to see the error of their ways. (It's worth noting that Person A _did not_ attempt any sort of communication or diplomacy before drowning them all to death.)
Which is more empathetic?
@@majmage
God gives them the opportunity to repent themselves of their ways, Noah preach them to change their ways but they just reject it and make fun of it, they had 100 years to repent but they didn't
From Sodom and Gomorrah, God promised that if there just 10 fair people, he wouldn't destroy those cities, but less that 10 were fair, he gives the opportunity to the ones that were fair to escape and protect them from the citizens who wanted to rape and kill them
With the people of Jericho, they attacked the Jews first in the desert just because they escaped from Egypt, they had 40 years to repent themselves, and only one woman of all of them did it, Rahab, she and her family weren't killed during the invasion
The city of Nineveh, Jonah was sent to inform them that they were going to be destroyed because of their sins, and everyone in the city repented to God, and they were forgave
So yeah, God is emphatic, people just claim that they are "innocent" people to give God a bad image, but the people of the flood were all bad, they raped, killed and lived on an abominable way, Sodom and Gomorrah rape every person that came into the city doing orgy, people of Jericho just make baby sacrifices to their god, non of them we're "innocent" and if they still around, people would just asking their destruction for what they do
@@ivanelugo The story doesn't involve any opportunity to repent. (Read it again if you're unclear.)
So you don't get to play pretend here. You have a story describing a vicious tyrant and a human who clearly has more empathy.
Almost certainly _you too_ would've had more empathy.
So let's not play pretend and call that character "empathetic". It's laughable.
@@majmage no, they had the opportunity to repent, they always had, but you don't want to see that, Noah preach them so they can change but nobody did, the prove of if they repent can be saved is there, with Rahab, with Nineveh, with the man that was crucified on the side of Jesus, you just don't want to comprehend the context on the verses
@@ivanelugo You cannot possibly believe the nonsense you're saying:
1. If the completely imaginary version of the story you're describing is true, then you're saying one man warned an entire world, which is a ridiculous thing to believe even if it were true.
2. But it's not true, because read Genesis 6 and Gen 7. Noah doesn't do what you say he did in the story. No mention of any kind of discussion or warning to the world is mentioned. Only instructions to Noah.
Meanwhile any random, basic-empathy type human nowadays wouldn't drown the entire world to deal with this sort of problem. So the average person has more empathy than God.
I can only point you to the plain truth of that. You have to be the one that cares about truth enough to see it.
Blessed is the generation that believes without seeing
The unseeing have to have conviction by the Holy Ghost, through the Word.
Because seeing isn't enough for some. They need control of God, too.
@@desireemorris6198 Eyes can make mistakes, also mind can make mistakes, also mind can make wrong conclusions about real world, also real world can be too complex, so, seeing few times is really not enough, it should be proovable by everyone. Also, if god doesnt do anything to you in this world, why do you even need to do something about him? If something is beyond our possibilities, so be it, we have our own problems, our "own" interesting world to explore where god can be just a popular myth. I dont think that we need god.
@@desireemorris6198 I believe in a flying spaghetti monster in the sky. I don't need to prove it because I feel very strongly about it.
@@tomwisniewski8988and the holy marina speaks to me when I consume it symbolically every Sunday. That burning in my heart are the fires of truth and faith. May we never be tempted by Pesto.
Per C.S. Lewis, the great sin: pride.
Pride is what got Satan in hot doo-doo with God. It all started with pride.
Nothing more nauseating than a 20 something thinking they have all the answers. Somethings are only learned with experience, if they are so smart why don't they know this?
@@jskyg68 humility is a tough lesson to learn for all age groups.
Pride goeth before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.
It's amazing how many Christians just uncritically accept the Bible.
WILL! The young student's name is Will. Lord be with Will and show him your perfect love, beauty and majesty.
where there's a will there's a way
Either that or he will go to hell willfully
Lets hope he is not brainwashed like the rest of you idiots and thinks for himself without the need of an invisible magic pixie.
@@optimumpcyt
or he will go to heaven willfully
There are sheep.....and there are goats.....only 1 of these listen to the sheapards call....the other is hard to control
That a 15-letter sentence requires a mind, but something a billion times more complex does not, is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence. I absolutely agree.
Funny thing is the second you genuinely open yourself up, all questions are progressively answered. Never worked for me until I meant a prayer. Converted shortly after and never been happier
Yes and that recently happened to me, it’s such a crazy good feeling
God opens you up. All faith is from God.
👍
Amen!
I was this kid at one point. As I grew older and had more experiences I began to see that humans and a whole were yearning for something more. But only those without faith. The ones that had faith were content. And that opened my eyes to God.
Just as a child is content in mothers arms? Religion is regression into childhood where there is someone looking after you. If you fail in life, you can regress to those childhood feelings that someone will help you and that hope keeps you alive. That's why it evolved
There's an infinite hole in each of us that can only be filled by an infinite loving creator.
An simple observation yet with profound consequences for those who see.
I was an atheist for my first 27-yrs...then I wized-up, with Jesus showing me the truth.
@@sbgtrading how did that happen?
Romans 1: 21 "For although they knew God, they neither glorified Him as God nor gave thanks to Him, but they became futile in their thinking and darkened in their foolish hearts. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images of mortal man.."
Amen.
Amen!
Dude, please stop pretending that you believe in God. Deep down, you know that he's not real. You're just suppressing the truth.
@@LandonMetochoiWhat Truth Is That.
Do you believe Jesus was a historical figure or do you think he was just a made up story and there was no man named Jesus? If you believe there was a man named Jesus at the time famous for proclaiming he was the son of God what about the stories dont you believe? Do you believe he was crucified? Do you believe he had disciples? If so why would they go so far as to be killed for proclaiming to have seen Jesus risen from the dead? Why wouldnt they give up especially after seeing the man who they thought was the Son of God killed? Why were the disciples killed in the first place? For proclaiming Jesus was resurrected? Who cares? Especially if it isnt true? If it were a lie why wouldnt they admit it especially when faced with death? Why was the bible the first book ever written? Why has it stayed relevant?
I believe that a lot of this hard headedness is because of what people think being a Christian is based on what religion has done to the world. Being a Christian is very different to being religious. People need to actually read The Bible to understand this
Yes the faith is deeply misunderstood
Even if they read and their hearts remain hardened, they won't see. I pray God open's people's hearts and minds to the truth, like He did with Saul.
@@RS54321Amen. I pray for that too
If try to explain this to them they dig their heals in and want to argue over the definition of religion. One track minds just completely stuck on proving how you're just a religious fool who believes in a sky daddy.
The Bible actually uses the term "religion" in a positive way, so it's best not to differentiate the Bible from religion. I used to do the same thing so I understand.
It's not that religion is harmful, it's that when people reject God, they inevitably come up with belief systems that do harm because they all redefine right and wrong. Some of those belief systems can be categorized as false religions, but those false religions are no different from "humanism" or "evolution" or "communism"---the latter having produced the greatest mass murders in history. So it's not "religion" that's the problem, it's every belief system (every worldview, every outlook on life) mankind comes up with on his own; and those belief systems are harmful because they redefine right and wrong. For example, in some of those belief systems it's right to commit fornication and engage in unnatural sexual acts. God tells us that those things are wrong, mankind decides they are not and all of sudden STDs spread across the world. Religion wasn't the problem there, it was the worldview mankind was operating under. Let's take the inquisition for another example. The Catholic church decides to reject God, becomes corrupt and starts to suppress knowledge of the Bible lest their illegitimate practices be known by the people, and all of a sudden they start hunting Christians down and burning them at the stake. That is a belief system mankind came up with that people merely categorize as "religion"; but it is still just a new set of beliefs mankind has come up with, a redefining of right and wrong, which is no different from atheism.
The fact that anything exists is a miracle. I know we don’t understand the eternal which describes God who is without beginning or end. But if there wasn’t a God to create something, there’s no way we could exist. Nothing comes from nothing. Therefore our very existence proves there’s a creator.
I call it a form of extreme madness to look at the human eye and conclude that NOTHING brought it about.
@@peterbassey9668 It's pretty straightforward following the evolution of the eye. It's amazing and impressive but hardly proof of the Judeo-Christian god.
@@peterbassey9668I consider you lack of understanding NOT to be a form of madness but a cancer of a poor education system; that somehow tries its very best to teach the testable repeatable measurable elements of the scientific method, only for the students to utilize this method in every other facet of their life, except when detracting it makes you feel good.
@@tomwisniewski8988It's proof of intelligent design. Cosmological, teleological, and fine-tuning arguments establish the more generic attributes of His nature (which even these quickly disqualify most idols historically and currently worshipped as deities). For more theologically pertinent questions about His nature, will, and relationship as it pertains to man and how/if He's revealed Himself to us takes humility, a genuine desire to know the truth, patience, and an honest evaluation of the evidence from the scriptures, for the resurrection, fulfilled prophecy, not to mention the preservation of the Jewish people despite the numerous amount of genocidal endeavors and diasporas they've endured throughout the centuries.
@@peterbassey9668 I call it extreme madness to believe in something for which there is no evidence.
God is the ONLY one worthy of worship!
Praise the Lord!!!
He is worthy!
He is risen!
Amen! To God be the Glory ❤️
AMEN AMEN AMEN
The "lord" in the old testament, is ANU, of the Anunnaki. The real stories are 35,000 yrs old or older, revealed in the Emerald Tablets and many other texts. Even the "lord's prayer," came from AMEN RA, also known as Marduk, one of the fallen angels. RA insisted we thank him for everything. The Catholic Church invented the Christianity we see today... it is fake a frog hair. Oh yeah, we say AMEN because RA insisted on it... not God.
God is not worthy of anything.
@@batmandeltaforce Job 17:2
Are there not mockers with me? and doth not mine eye continue in their provocation?
Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Isaiah 28:22
Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth.
Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
This is why my debates begin with, "Truly, faith is a gift from God"
@@saishetheberzerker2355 you need faith when you are not sure about something. Read more than one book
Spent the first 14 years of my life forced to goto church. At 14 I confronted my pastor and parents and explained I did not believe any of what I was there for.
My Pastor told me and my parents I needed to find the path for myself. He was positive I would find my way to God. To my parents dismay they agreed and I didn't have to goto church anymore.
I later at about age 20 became an atheist set to disprove God. It took me about 15 years of finding clever arguments to defeat the possibility of God. Something happened though... through learning and reading the Bible over and over again to disprove God, I found God... it took me 15 years as an adult reading and rereading the Bible over and over to start to understand it. There is no doubt through understanding that God is real.
They don’t want to retain the knowledge of God. They will have no excuse, because deep down everyone knows there’s a creator, but they refuse to acknowledge the obvious, because they would have to submit to the creator who they deny, they are guilty of the sin of pride, for knowledge puffs up, but the Love of God edifies
@@tlw6932 Your god is not loving.
I can't prove there's no god, but I can prove that there's no loving god.
This is pure crap. It's not about pride or wanting to sin. I don't believe in God because there is zero evidence. How hard is this to understand. Deep down inside, you know I am right. You have your doubts, even if only a tiny doubt. All Christians struggle with doubt. That's because they know deep down inside that it is all a made up story and in the end, when we die, we cease to be.
@@01MTodd Todd I have zero doubt we were created by God. What’s the point of living if there is no God..who’s your God ?
@@too1leasy What is Love?
@@too1leasy God loves me. And my family. I know this because I read his word. I pray for his assistance and he answers. Every time I have humbled my self before God he provides.
But that’s the key . Humility and acceptance. If you keep rebelling against having a relationship with someone then naturally you will not have access to this love. Or rather it will not be felt or recognized. It is by no means Gods doing that you do not feel his love. It is your own.
People who can't make the jump from " You can't make something from nothing" is because to admit there is a creator, one must realize that the things one likes to indulge in is something the creator does NOT approve of..E.G. morals..
There was never nothing. Nothing doesn't exist. It's a human concept.
Only theists claim that something was ever created from nothing.
@avishevin1976 YHWH was always the SOMETHING that created EVERYTHING. Jesus said, " Before Abraham, I AM! And I had a hand in the creation of ALL things.."
@@too1leasy Jesus Christ,
@@KirkDavis1966 And how did you show a god to exist? Because every time I hear the something from nothing trope it is always the theists who say that, never the atheists.
Very typical of kids when they get a little education and all of the sudden they know everything. And, they will prove to you by using the biggest words they’ve learned.
Brought up Christian after my father was killed when i was a child lost my faith was in the wilderness for 40:years come to the realisation that God is the way
God allows disappointment and even allows believers to die even though the believer is doing the right things before God. It is important to understand that our life on earth is only temporary. Our citizenship is in heaven as the Apostle Paul mentioned in Philippians 3...
1Kings 21:1-16 Naboth the Jezreelite lost his life by doing what was right before God...
1 And it came to pass after these things, that Naboth the Jezreelite had a vineyard, which was in Jezreel, hard by the palace of Ahab king of Samaria.
2 And Ahab spake unto Naboth, saying, Give me thy vineyard, that I may have it for a garden of herbs, because it is near unto my house: and I will give thee for it a better vineyard than it; or, if it seem good to thee, I will give thee the worth of it in money.
3 And Naboth said to Ahab, The LORD forbid it me, that I should give the inheritance of my fathers unto thee.
4 And Ahab came into his house heavy and displeased because of the word which Naboth the Jezreelite had spoken to him: for he had said, I will not give thee the inheritance of my fathers. And he laid him down upon his bed, and turned away his face, and would eat no bread.
5 But Jezebel his wife came to him, and said unto him, Why is thy spirit so sad, that thou eatest no bread?
6 And he said unto her, Because I spake unto Naboth the Jezreelite, and said unto him, Give me thy vineyard for money; or else, if it please thee, I will give thee another vineyard for it: and he answered, I will not give thee my vineyard.
7 And Jezebel his wife said unto him, Dost thou now govern the kingdom of Israel? arise, and eat bread, and let thine heart be merry: I will give thee the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite.
8 So she wrote letters in Ahab's name, and sealed them with his seal, and sent the letters unto the elders and to the nobles that were in his city, dwelling with Naboth.
9 And she wrote in the letters, saying, Proclaim a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people:
10 And set two men, sons of Belial, before him, to bear witness against him, saying, Thou didst blaspheme God and the king. And then carry him out, and stone him, that he may die.
11 And the men of his city, even the elders and the nobles who were the inhabitants in his city, did as Jezebel had sent unto them, and as it was written in the letters which she had sent unto them.
12 They proclaimed a fast, and set Naboth on high among the people.
13 And there came in two men, children of Belial, and sat before him: and the men of Belial witnessed against him, even against Naboth, in the presence of the people, saying, Naboth did blaspheme God and the king. Then they carried him forth out of the city, and stoned him with stones, that he died.
14 Then they sent to Jezebel, saying, Naboth is stoned, and is dead.
15 And it came to pass, when Jezebel heard that Naboth was stoned, and was dead, that Jezebel said to Ahab, Arise, take possession of the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite, which he refused to give thee for money: for Naboth is not alive, but dead.
16 And it came to pass, when Ahab heard that Naboth was dead, that Ahab rose up to go down to the vineyard of Naboth the Jezreelite, to take possession of it.
Philippians 3:20-21 Our Conversation (Citizenship) In Heaven
20 For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Our time on Earth is a temporary one. As a believer some of us are permitted to go through tougher times than others. It can be difficult - but in the end...
Base on the response from some participants, we can see there will be people who reject God even though they are presented with all the evidence. Human are given the freewill to accept God or not, but there will be consequences for decisions
That’s a silly and evil game
There was 0 evidence for god in this video
True then find Jesus Christ by reading the bible@@jarskii11
@@jarskii11 Would you agree that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence?
@@alisterrebelo9013 normal evidence is enough
I see a lot of lost souls in the comments here, and I weep for them.
I also see believers and converts! And my heart sings for them.
God bless you all.
Souls don;t exist, so they can't get lost.
😊❤️🥰✝️
"He has mercy on whom He has mercy and whom He wills, He hardens".-Romans 9:18. -and- "This is the Lord's doing, it is marvelous in our eyes".-Psalm 118:23.
@@chs_ambs8356 So basically, god is a capricious dick - which is unsurprising, when humans invented him they just imagined a powered-up version of themselves. Which is why "god" has a very human personality....and a very flawed one at that. It might be marvellous in the eyes of some religious nut from the iron age, it really doesn;t look marvellous now, except those who are willing to abadon their own intelligence and go with "Mysterious Ways"
Show me 1
Point to 1 SOUL
Show me a SOUL, anywhere .
shouldn't be hard right ? You see A LOT OF THEM
Show me 1
also
You see LOTS OF LOST SOULS
ALSO... You see
BELIEVERS and
CONVERTS
so.... the believers and converts , then, ARE NOT souls ?
Weird huh ?
Nebuchadnezzar literally saw The Angle Of The Lord Walking in the furnace 🔥 with Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego and that didn’t cause him to believe he had to be brought down to the ground before he humbled himself.
You shouldn´t believe made up stories from the Bible. This was nothing but political propaganda, written long after the fall of Babylon. It never happened.
@@norbertjendruschj9121do you have proof? Eye witness account?
@@norbertjendruschj9121what makes you so sure?
@@bast4rdlyreaper
Did you know that the Russians have an proverb: "He lies like an eye witness." ?
On the other hand: Can you prove, the Bible claim is true? Because: The Bible lies all the time. It is the product of political propaganda and propaganda is another word for - you guessed it - lies.
@@bast4rdlyreaper
A sound education.
What I feel the issue is, is that even if proof, evidence of a being existed, and they saw the being, they'd think they're hallucinating or going crazy and not wanting to believe "fairy tales". There was a scientist I think, or a mathematician, forgot who, they were asked something along the lines of "What would you do if a message was written for you specifically in the stars or planets?" and the man answered "I will say that I'd be going crazy or hallucinating. I cannot believe in such nonesense" or as close to that response. Even if proof was shown, they wouldn't believe, they're too prideful to care about evidence that will turn them to the opposite side.
They think 500 people all hallucinated at the same time when they saw risen jesus lmaoo. No way to get through to them, they're not an evidence based people. Christ is king
"A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still."
You went to sea to see what you can see, now all you see is sea.
Wat
It is man's WILL that won't submit. But to love requires the ability to choose. It cannot be forced. Jesus chose the pain and suffering of rejection from those He created that He might have a people who will love Him freely.
Hallelujah!
Okay in Revelation where it tells us that some people will (after seeing God) will still fight on the side of evil. I always wondered "How can a person, seeing Jesus in the Flesh would STILL turn their back on Him?". Your closing statement my Brother 10:43 was the piece that unlocked the answer!!! I would have NEVER guessed that there were going to be people after the 1000 years (wether lit, or not) that would still choose evil, I mean I read Rev many times and listened to it loads of time on the Audio version, but that part always got me to scratch my head.
Any way Thanks a bunch, Audrey.
you are not alone, i always thought, if we all 'see' Yeshua, he brings peace and love, rescues us from sin, people would still reject him, how could they? but now I 'see the over valueing of self over God will lead many to that.
hope its ok to comment, I just felt as you had expressed something so well about something I too have been thinking, I would offer my appreciation. God is Good! God Bless you and yours.
@@cheezycatnip8352 Of course its okay!!! always a welcome feeling to hear from my spiritual siblings. Iron sharpens iron. 💗
Yep. Psalm 2 talks about this too. Earth's armies will actually take up arms against Jesus when He returns, because they won't want to be ruled by Him.
@@thelthrythquezada8397 Thankyou, It is fab to connect over the miles, I dream of the day we will be all together with Christ. Have a great day from us here in Scotland. God be with you.
@@TheFoxchild It is hard to accept that the world will view Christ this way and respond as such, he already offers so much to us, It highlights why we need him more and more. God Bless and stay safe.
One of the questions I pose when I’m getting towards the end of a conversation with an atheist after going over pieces of evidence and arguments is this: Is there a reason why you don’t want God to exist?
I usually encourage them to reflect upon this question and say that they don’t have to respond to me, if they don’t want to.
I can offer one - it would be absolutely terrifying to think that a supernatural being with total control over the unverise could allow such horrific cruelty to take place in the world and enable so much suffering. If a god did exist it would by necessity be one that is incompatible with our own morals
It's not about not wanting God to exist, it's about wanting to understand what exists. Assuming is not understanding.
Do you not want there to be a God?
The bible is very clear about this. Its a fallen creation, enabled by humans beings excercising their free will given by God, and we all shall stand before God being judged by what we have chosen to do. Every wrong will be accounted for.
Would you prefer God made you a robot slave?
“Is there a reason you don’t want God to exist”. This question is nonsense because it assumes God exists. God is not real he was made up by near eastern Iron Age men.
Let’s say God is real it would be so alien to us we would not be able to say anything about it or understand what is being revealed to us. It would have to be a lesser god that slightly above human for us to say anything about.
Myself having talked to God and having heard his voice and experience miraculous things in my life, is the pinnacle of proof or evidence for God.
For you
Define god! Whwts its ability and attributes?
Jesus Christ, the son of Living God all mighty
@@ronbernardi they're all in the Bible, but in summary the creator of the universe, time, matter, and space
@@kevingp12 Jesus being a God that's a claim. Hinduism has Vishnu. Japan's its Shinto.
No amount of Proof will ever be enough for someone who does not even like the idea of God. God himself can come down to prove that he exists, and still, some People will never believe.
It's an individual choice. How much proof is good enough for you? That's up to you!
The UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines of RELIGIONS about GOD -
1 "Trinity"
2. "heaven and hellfire"
3. "Armageddon"
4. "rapture"
5. "reincarnation"
The BIBLICAL teachings of JESUS CHRIST about GOD -
1. the "Kingdom of God"
2. "Resurrection of the Dead"
What is the worth, value, and importance of the UNBIBLICAL teachings of RELIGIONS about GOD?
ANSWER -
Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, SDAs, Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Born Again Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, and fanatics of all kinds of Religions
who
believe and preach the UNBIBLICAL teachings and doctrines about "Trinity", "heaven and hellfire", "Armageddon", "rapture", and "reincarnation"
will
definitely bring themselves nothing but their own dishonor, disgrace, downfall and ETERNAL DEATHS, worthless and useless dusts on earth forever.
What is the worth, value, and importance of the BIBLICAL teachings of JESUS CHRIST about GOD?
ANSWER -
All lowly, ordinary, kind, and respectful persons on earth who willingly submit to the authority of Jesus Christ and believe his teachings about the "Kingdom of God" and "Resurrection of the Dead"
as written in Matthew 28: 18, Luke 4: 43, and John 11: 25, 26
will
definitely bring themselves honor and the loving, kind, and merciful GOD's favor and reward of ETERNAL LIFE and existence without sufferings, pains, griefs, sickness, and death on a safe, secure, and peaceful Earth without Liars, slanderers, perverts, traitors, and murderers
as written in Revelation 21: 3, 4, 8.
What is the the "RESURRECTION of the DEAD" for?
ANSWER -
All human beings will just return to dusts after their deaths just like the animals
as written in Ecclesiastes 3: 19, 20 ; 9: 5, 6
but
the teaching of Jesus Christ about the "Resurrection of the Dead"
is
the guarantee that all loving, kind, and respectful persons on earth who died recently and thousands of years ago like Abel, Noah, Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Job, King David, Jesus Christ's Followers and disciples, and many others
will all be RESURRECTED back to life in the right and proper time so they can happily, abundantly, and peacefully live and exist on earth forever as submissive and obedient subjects and citizens of the "KINGDOM of GOD"
and fully enjoy the eternal love, kindness, goodness, generosities, compassions, favors, and blessings of GOD and his Christ for eternity
under the loving and kind rulership, guidance, and protection of Jesus Christ as GOD's Chosen King and Ruler of the heavens and the earth as written in Revelation 11: 15.
But you don’t have any proof to begin with so that’s a pointless statement.
They will believe really fast when they think the antichrist is God, and then they will STILL be wrong.
what proof though - all this guy did was go will will will and then spout more nonsensical gibberish that again proved nothing. he does the same thing everytime - the smugness and arrogance is crazy.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
Its insane how they always breakdown in delusion and invoke the flying spaghetti monster… And then they ignore all the historicity in the Bible concerning Nations, Prophecy, Events, and Archaeology… they have a feelings issue
Historicity of the bible? Sure, it contains some - most myths do. But it gets so much, so wildly wrong - Genesis and Exodus, for example, are utter bullshit, and provably so. Propecies in the bible get fulfilled quite a lot....in stories in the bible. What archeology?
Nations - what on earth does that have to do with anything
prophecy - so many of these are literally debunked. Take the book of daniel....
events - Harry Potter has events in it....doesn't make it historical
archaeology - like how there's ZERO archaeology for the exodus from Eygpt?
What Bible prophecy is widely regarded as a genuine and objectively evidenced example of a message from an invisible being?
The flying spaghetti monster is an atheist construct to rationalize their rejection of what God stands for.
One i like personally is noahs ark its been found years ago go look it up if interested i think its pretty cool. We also have found out where Jesus was crucified i believe it's called skull mountain its been a while since I've looked it up myself but within the Bible it does say it was a big stone wall that had a skull face where he died.
@@cipherklosenuf9242
But it is always a matter of the heart. It is always pride. That is what prevents repentance. We should tear down arguments and demolish strongholds and take every thought captive and obedient to Christ. A refusal to acknowledge God comes from a prideful heart that suppresses the truth. Romans 1 explains this perfectly. God's invisible qualities are clearly seen in all the material world He has made. He is also known within us because what can be known about God has been made known inside us. Here is what is happening to this young man. Light has come into the world but men hate the light because they love the darkness.
AMAZING God's kindness and patience. Lord please forgive me...
The way Frank speaks and articulates his words with so much love is something I will strive to do in my daily life. Thanks for breaking down this video. Love your content!
My question is : Why are some people so affected by the curse of sin that it causes them to hate God? while others are not? The Gospel merely reveals which side we are on, it does not change anyone. All who are ultimately lost, it will be voluntary with them and just and merciful on the part of God.
Who hates god? One cannot hate something that doesn't exist. Now, I DO hate religious people attempting to force their faith into the public school system...and into the legal system...and into the government...and using their bronze-age religious rules to insist on the condemnation of other people for not conforming to their "traditional values"...I'll admit that I hate that. But god? It would be like hating the tooth fairy.
And that's a doctrine issue..
Because many ppl believe your statement is wrong..
Many believe The Gospel doesn't just make ppl savable..than they have to with their own free will choose to be saved .
But the Gospel really saves ppl..changes their hearts..than after they've been changed they choose to follow Christ with a new will that they have..
It's on you to see which is in the pages of Scripture.
BTW that's the difference between Armenianism and Calvinism
Nobody hates god, but he's not immune to criticism and if you genuinely believe that there's not a single word in the book that's wrong or contradictory then you're living under a rock.
@lxw6657 there are PLENTY of examples of people who truly, vociferously, hate God.
Most non-believers are ambivalent, but some do indeed hate him.
@@troymccurrin625 sure but when we say that nobody hates god it doesn't mean there are zero people, it just means it's not anything even remotely close to what they're spewing. You could get away with saying out of normal everyday people that the number of them who legit hate god? Basically none.
It's because every single sub atomic particle that exists and has ever existed, in the entire know universe. Came together from a chaotic beginning, and coalesced in a specific way, to create the universe we live in. Randomly. Without any design, it just fell together perfectly to create everything. And has never fell into a chaotic state ever again. That's the basis of the atheism argument. The proverbial "Tornado in a Junkyard".
What do you mean "fell together perfectly to create everything"?
Perfectly for what?
The universe is basically just trillions of galaxies full of dead planets, 99.999....% hostile to life.
It's just billions of light years of empty space dotted with useless matter clumped up into balls due to gravity.
What's perfect about that?, what's the point of that from a 'design' perspective?
That has nothing to do with Atheism. Atheism just means you don’t believe a God exist. Nothing else. It does not provide an alternative view of how things came about.
@wharzenr no, nothing to do with Atheism. It literally only means you don’t believe a god exists. And remember, you don’t choose what you believe to be true or not. You either convinced something exists or not. If you sit on the fence, you’re agnostic about it.
No the basis of atheism is simply realizing you haven’t met your burden of proof for your insane claims.
What you said has NOTHING to do with atheism as atheism doesn’t even attempt to explain why the universe exists.
That would be the Big Bang theory. Which is scientific, not atheistic. You’re all sorts of confused.
@wharzenr If that is what you believe, please remain a Christian. By the way, Christians are overrepresented in Prisons by percentage of the population and Atheists are underrepresented by percentage of the population that identify as one or the other.
I once told an atheist "you can't catch this proof even if it was thrown at your face". They're too hard headed, God help them.
Its the other way around my friend. The religous People are so In their cults they cannot even think about them being In the wrong. They cannot "catch the proof even if it was thrown at their face"
@@jarskii11 According to The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch, the Divine Names are associated with the biblical and extra-biblical Names of God.
The correlation is made that the Divine Name YHVH serves as the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters that form our human body.
The Divine Name YHVH is spelled with four letters (Y-H-V-H), but it uses only three from the Hebrew alphabet (Y-H-V, with the H repeated).
Similarly, DNA or RNA contain four nucleotides as “letters,” but they read only three at a time to create codons that code for amino acids.
Just as DNA sequences can be rearranged for different functions, the Divine Name can also be rearranged (e.g., V-H-Y, H-Y-V, H-H-V).
The primal matrix square, called “Word Spirit,” consists of permutations of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), akin to the DNA code.
John 1:1 states, “In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God,” emphasizing the creative role of the Divine Name in creation1.
Atomic Mass Correspondence:
Another perspective suggests that elements in DNA can be translated into letters based on their atomic mass.
Hydrogen corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen to Hey (H), oxygen to Wav (V or W), and carbon to Gimel (G)
@jarskii11, you simply get it wrong because every time we give the evidence about God to atheists they they never want to accept it NEVER. an atheist even said that if we showed him all the evidence in the world about God, he would never accept it.
This was great. I have an uncle who I speak with often about God. He hates the God of the bible, saying He’s evil and unjust. Looking forward to hearing future videos on this topic
Your uncle hates the God of the Bible?
So he hates God but prays to him?
@@dorcasmcleod9439 No he’s an atheist. (I know; “how can you hate someone who doesn’t exist?”)
Understood. But if he says god is unjustified to it's creation then he have to give reference and prove evidence where god said god did wrong to his creation. U can't just claim false accusations.
@@Pajeetó_Kumar_CheterBalJi Absolutely. I think he’s got some pretty deep cognitive dissonance going on that he’s unwilling to acknowledge.
its because its... actaully true, the God of the bible is potentially unjust and malevolent!
source: the bible
I needed this right now.
I was recently engaged in an argument (more like brutal assault from all sides) with people about the reality of Christ.
I made a comment on a post that said something about believing in yourself. I said, “I believe in myself because I believe in God. God believes in me, and since I believe in God, I trust him, and I believe in myself too. Because if I didn’t have God, I would be an evil man”.
I received a lot of comments on this.
“you don't have someone who believes in you, you have an irrational belief that someone who doesn't exist believes in you”
“You’re a God away from being an evil person? What does that say about you”
“but wouldn't God have to exist to believe in you? The fact that you follow God doesn't make you a good person, the fact that you think you do does. He doesn't have to exist, you just have to think he does.”
Each one of these are some of many similar comments that I got.
These are the most unique of the bunch.
It makes me so mad that people can’t understand that this is someone who means a lot to me, and no amount of explaining or arguing can sway them.
Your comment at the end of this video helped me to remember what I need to do.
I can’t change them. Only God can.
He can use people as catalysts for his will, or he can use time and experience to teach them more about him.
But that isn’t up to me, it’s up to God, and all I can do is pray for them.
Thank you.
I would have stated the the Bible says, "the heart of man is desperately wicked and who can know it". We are born into sin, "for the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord ". We are all evil in God's eyes, but are only made righteous through Christ sacrifice on the cross.
@@123chesss I haven’t read the Bible enough to quote scripture from memory just yet.
That is a long term goal of mine, and I only wish I had thought of that.
That’s the truth. 🙏
The whole problem with god is that we don’t have evidence of it and the scary part about your comment is the fact you say nothing will shake your belief this is I awful for you just say you will believe in something even though you have no evidence of it. Where as in science you could convince people god exists just show us evidence of the stars themselves formed the words I am god serve me most would contest to Christianity on the spot but that never happens. Also relying on a god to be a good person puts you down for what you can accomplish it was not an all powerful god who made you a good person it was you just being a good person
@@robbiemosher2639 thanks for being somewhat respectful. That’s a rarity these days.
Still though, you say it’s scary as if me holding firm to my heartfelt beliefs is a bad thing.
I feel like not having a creator and ceasing to exist after death are very bad things.
But that’s what you believe, isn’t it?
I believe that Heaven, an afterlife of eternal happiness and peace is a very good thing.
Let me tell you now, if I was not a Christian, I would not be a good person.
I can see that clearly. I don’t like people, I might even go as far as to say I hate them. However, because I am a Christian, I do everything in my power to be a good person.
Does that make me a good person?
I don’t know.
I think it makes me a good person who would rather do bad things, but does good anyway.
That is all because of God.
The fact of the matter is, you and I are different people. We’ve lived different lives, experiences different things, thought about the things that have happened with different mentalities.
For me, when something miraculously happened, I didn’t automatically assume I had gotten lucky. I prayed to God, and my prayers were answered. Multiple times it a row this happened, and then I thought about it, and I realized that these things were happening for me because I was praying sincerely. Everything else that I wanted and didn’t pray for, I never got.
And before I continue, I would like to point out that prayer is not just a means to acquire things, it’s a heartfelt conversation with God. And for a conversation to exist, there must be two sides. God does not speak to us directly, but through our thoughts and emotions. I can’t describe just how a conversation with God truly feels, saying that it’s an emotional experience is the best I can think of, but it’s more than that.
God will never come to us and say that he is God and to worship him.
That’s just not how he works.
That’s the whole reason he created the devil at all, to give us freedom.
If there was no devil, there would be no evil, if there was no evil, there would be no wrong choices, no wrong choices means only one correct choice. It’s basically slavery.
God didn’t want slaves, he wanted willing servants.
I am one such willing servant.
If he were to come to us and order us to worship him, it would make the devils entire existence useless. All of our suffering throughout the ages, our hardships and pain, our loss and sadness, all for nothing.
He wants us to choose him, not to have no choice.
He wants us to have faith.
Faith to the faithless seems merely like a coping mechanism, or wishful thinking.
However, faith to the faithful is the key to a happy life, and more than that, a perfect afterlife.
And to close this off, the human mind is very complex. If this did nothing to sway your belief that I’m wrong, then you’re simply no different from me.
We humans are stubborn. We need to be stubborn to live peacefully with ourselves and with others.
I am definitely sure that I have some wrong opinions about life, but in the same way, everyone does.
There is not a single perfect person on this Earth.
And as sad as that is, that’s just a fact.
@@Iso20227 I , also, am one willing servant .
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It all boils down to logic. If God as we know Him to be did not create the universe then nothing created something, which of course is not logical.
To understand theism one must accept both seen material nature and unseen spiritual nature.
In material nature we see in order to believe but in the unseen spiritual realm, we believe in order to see.
Solid analysis. Wish I saw this video earlier today when I had a discussion about this very topic. I guess I could link this video and pray the person I was talking to watches it. Cheers.
Also I did not handle that discussion the way I should have at all. Oof.
What matters is that you take what you have learned and use it the next time a discussion like that happens. Praying that God will give you wisdom🙏🏻🙏🏻
Evidence is all around us. Arguments will never cease. Faith is what it takes to see it.
The evidence is not the issue. The issue is the bondage of the unregenerate will resulting in the refusal to believe the evidence.
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What evidence?
You don’t actually have any to disregard to begin with.
If there is so much evidence why nobody ever brings these proofs To daylight?
Here is some evidence. Do you honestly believe it is random that the Earth happens to be the exact size, shape and distance from the sun that life exists? Where one degree closer we boil. One degree further we freeze? To you, that honestly happened by chance? And please don't take my tone as anything bur civil. I am genuinely asking you with no malicious intent
When listening to someone strive to make the argument that you can't 'prove' there is a God, I've often wondered why the response isn't; 'can you 'prove' there isn't?'
Because those who already made up their mind would just stay on their side and the debater want them to come to the christian side.
Feodor Dostoievski also wrote in in Brothers Karamazov something to the effect that: Thomas the unbeliever was not actually so unfaithful, because upon seeing he believed, while most truly unfaithful people are those who have seen and still not believed
Thank you for this post. Lengthier clips of discussion, with well-articulated objections to Christianity and well-articulated responses, encourage me, not only with what I believe, but with how I engage with those who may not share my belief. It truly seems like the Spirit is working in Dr. Turek to say what needs to be said in that moment.
Brandon, I am a new subscriber to you channel, and absolutely love it. Thank you for introducing me to Dr. Frank Turek. You both are great! May God bless you always. ☮
Welcome aboard! And thanks!
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom *Hi Brandon in regards to the student's awnser, that he still wouldn't be Christian, if Christianity were true, because he would disagree with God's morals that are outlined in the bible. Could you not perhaps respond with something to the effect of....*
"Yet in the Bible God is described as maximally moral, so if Christianity were true, by definition, any morals, or principles etc, outlined in the Bible, would be correct in an absolute sense. So even if you can't quite understand, why those morals are correct in an absolute sense, by definition they are.
The same way for example, when a small child is told by their parent, they can't have third slice of cake, they may think the parent is being mean or immoral, when in fact they are being moral and just. Yet because their is such a large gap of intellect and wisdom between the parent and child, the child may not be capable of understanding why the parent's actions are in fact moral in that case. Yet the gap in intellect and wisdom between God and us, is infinitely larger, than it is between a child and parent. So we can use logical reasoning to deduce, that if Christianity were true, by definition, no matter how wrong, morally speaking, you believe God is, again by definition, it would be you who is in fact wrong.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom You're welcome, and thank you.
He made it clear in the beginning that if Christianity was true that he still wouldn't be a Christian. That says everything about his mindset. He doesn't want proof he just wants to argue to appear intelligent.
Literally thousands of religions and even thousands of more gods to choose from. Good job you guys picked the right one.
What's Your point
According to The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch®, the Divine Names are associated with the biblical and extra-biblical Names of God.
The correlation is made that the Divine Name YHVH serves as the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters that form our human body.
The Divine Name YHVH is spelled with four letters (Y-H-V-H), but it uses only three from the Hebrew alphabet (Y-H-V, with the H repeated).
Similarly, DNA or RNA contain four nucleotides as “letters,” but they read only three at a time to create codons that code for amino acids.
Just as DNA sequences can be rearranged for different functions, the Divine Name can also be rearranged (e.g., V-H-Y, H-Y-V, H-H-V).
The primal matrix square, called “Word Spirit,” consists of permutations of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), akin to the DNA code.
John 1:1 states, “In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God,” emphasizing the creative role of the Divine Name in creation1.
Atomic Mass Correspondence:
Another perspective suggests that elements in DNA can be translated into letters based on their atomic mass.
Hydrogen corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen to Hey (H), oxygen to Wav (V or W), and carbon to Gimel (G)
Its not as complicated as you might think. There are 4 views on God. Theism - only 1 God. Atheism - No god. Polytheism- many gods and Pantheism- everything is god. All religions fit within 1 of these categories. The arguments Frank discussed narrow it down to Theism. Within theism you have Judaism, Islam, and Christianity. All have different claims about Jesus. It is then a matter of determining which view of Jesus is correct. This is done by determining if the New Testament documents are historically reliable.
If there was nothing in the beginning, and "nothing became something", that's a pretty good supernatural event! Oy, it is tedious talking to atheists! God exists!
You did it against brother! I cant express how important content like yours is!✝️🙏
There are a lot of UA-camrs who play videos from Frank Turek or others and give "commentary" or "elaboration" on those videos. Almost all of them detract from what Frank or the others are saying. I want to commend you because your comments really do help explain and clarify what is going on. You do well.
"Overvaluation of self and an undervaluation of God". @dailydoseofwisdom hit the nail on the head with this observation . That statement can be summed up with Satan's downfall and the downfall of Mankind "we can choose what's right or wrong not Him" leading to the world we live in.
This is it. Man is convinced of our ability to lord it over material nature.
I’m an atheist, but this is a pretty interesting argument honestly.
appreciate that you enjoyed it atheist friendo!
Jesus ❤'s you atheist friend. He is always with you and will never leave or forsake you. Call on his name and be saved Romans 10:13 ❤
Anna
@@apurposeandaplanministryno thanks
@@mommasbigboy8656 you have free will, so don't thank me, thank God 😉
glad you aren’t closed minded. that’s a good quality. rare one too.
These videos are such a blessing! Praying for you that God would continue to use you and you would stay humble and close to him❤
Frank is the very definition (at least n apologetics).
There are never any real arguments.
@@redwoodtrees7068 If Christianity were true and could be demonstrated at a level that satisfies you, would you be Christian?
I have seen the throne of God Nov 1st 2023. These people saying God doesn't exist is pointless... they are only digging a deeper hole for themselves... The proof is literally everywhere, God created all. It is also written!
That bit at the end opened my eyes. Thx
You’re welcome!
Did you know that man had epilepsy and actually has seizures named after him. They’re ecstatic religious/spiritual seizures.
@@Daily_Dose_Of_Wisdom Also heres some more evidence why God exists!
According to The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch, the Divine Names are associated with the biblical and extra-biblical Names of God.
The correlation is made that the Divine Name YHVH serves as the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters that form our human body.
The Divine Name YHVH is spelled with four letters (Y-H-V-H), but it uses only three from the Hebrew alphabet (Y-H-V, with the H repeated).
Similarly, DNA or RNA contain four nucleotides as “letters,” but they read only three at a time to create codons that code for amino acids.
Just as DNA sequences can be rearranged for different functions, the Divine Name can also be rearranged (e.g., V-H-Y, H-Y-V, H-H-V).
The primal matrix square, called “Word Spirit,” consists of permutations of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), akin to the DNA code.
John 1:1 states, “In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God,” emphasizing the creative role of the Divine Name in creation1.
Atomic Mass Correspondence:
Another perspective suggests that elements in DNA can be translated into letters based on their atomic mass.
Hydrogen corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen to Hey (H), oxygen to Wav (V or W), and carbon to Gimel (G)
Your channel is such a ministry. Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to post these videos.
I have a genuine question. Not to mock christianity. If God is our creator, then who created God?
Look at it like this, so who created God? God, is our maker, as well as the creator of existence. So, how can we define God with the laws of existence that HE made. So like an artist and his work. How could the people inside the picture use the rules of the picture to define the painter. I hope this outlook helps you, as well, thank you for being respectful about asking. YHWY Loves Us All, Always And Forever my friend.
if everything started with a big bang...where did the big bang come from
God is eternal. The universe is said to have a beginning, which implies that it is not eternal. Having a beginning, means that there was a cause to its creation. We believe that God is that creator. God did not have a beginning. He always was. Kind of like ‘being’ itself. He is the Father of creation. And based on what we read in the Bible and its evidence, we believe that He’s revealed himself to his creation through the Old Testament prophets, and ultimately in the man, Jesus called the Christ.
God isn't subject to man's limited thinking, so we have to prove ourselves to Him, Not Him to us! God wanted us to have fellowship with Him for all eternity, so He gave up part of His very nature to do so by dying on a Cross out of love for His creations! He then conquered sin and death and rose again so we can have fellowship with Him again!
"People who indulge in sin find it difficult to believe in God(JESUS), but they may be more inclined to believe in other gods since it doesn't disrupt their lifestyle of sinning, which these other gods have already embraced."
Just found your channel and youve made a great first impression. Looking forward to watching nore of your content. God bless ❤
Romans chapter 1...from verse 1 to end says it all. 🙏🏽❤️
You can see this type of behavior in Exodus. But God gives us an explanation. He said they were never from us. Even after seeing the plagues, the sea spread apart, and God's hand take them out of Egypt; they still chose to go back to Egypt.
My favorite line about this.
God wouldn’t be a very powerful god if He just forced all of us to believe in Him, would He?
Okay I'm actually a believer but yes, he would in fact be very powerful if he just forced everyone to believe. Him giving us freedom of choice has nothing to do with the amount of power he has. A powerful God could theoretically do either. God is just nice enough to let us have a choice.
Yet if God has made us, and has known our actions since before our existence, has the decision to believe in Him not already been made?
Do you believe In free will?
@@jarskii11Free will cannot exist with an all knowing creator. I do not believe in one therefore I believe in free will.
He doesn't force our will to him, he isn't 'nice enough" God is a loving God. Think of it like this did God force Adam and Eve to believe in him? Definitely no, he give em as well as all a power of his love for us the power of choice. It's our decision to believe in God, I'm not here to stir a conflict, I'm simply another messenger not the one who determines one's heart or knows their relationship with Christ because I'm not God, just another involved in the world of the natural but understands this is not our permanent home
To compare DNA with a planned message, and to sustain that is "CLEAR" proof of intelligent design, is deluded wishful thinking, as well as scienitfic illiteracy.
A planned message does not include redundant parts, dormant parts or useless ones, nor it icludes propositions that counter each others.
Furthermore, it does not wait billion years for random mutations to achieve its significance in contrast with parts of itself.
The most advanced machine ever created, the homo sapien, was not created by humans? We are clearly not the highest form of intelligence that we know about. DNA is a higher intelligence that uses natural selection as a mechanism to make design decisions resulting in capable resilient designs. There is also evidence for intelligence within the very fabric of 4d space time, where a single thought takes millions of light years to play out, consciousness nonetheless operating at a vastly different physical scale. The pattern is clear, the precursor to all things contains this property, it's obvious. All praise and glory be to the King of kings. Amen 🙏😇🔥
According to The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch®, the Divine Names are associated with the biblical and extra-biblical Names of God.
The correlation is made that the Divine Name YHVH serves as the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters that form our human body.
The Divine Name YHVH is spelled with four letters (Y-H-V-H), but it uses only three from the Hebrew alphabet (Y-H-V, with the H repeated).
Similarly, DNA or RNA contain four nucleotides as “letters,” but they read only three at a time to create codons that code for amino acids.
Just as DNA sequences can be rearranged for different functions, the Divine Name can also be rearranged (e.g., V-H-Y, H-Y-V, H-H-V).
The primal matrix square, called “Word Spirit,” consists of permutations of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), akin to the DNA code.
John 1:1 states, “In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God,” emphasizing the creative role of the Divine Name in creation1.
Atomic Mass Correspondence:
Another perspective suggests that elements in DNA can be translated into letters based on their atomic mass.
Hydrogen corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen to Hey (H), oxygen to Wav (V or W), and carbon to Gimel (G)
@@K.O-ANIMATIONS thank you🩷
Some atheists ULTIMATE problem is not evidence or logic but pride. These people hold their own point of view or opinion on such a high pedistal, nothing can possibly challenge them to rethink, what they think they already know or believe in.
For me, it’s evidence.
I’ve asked thousands for theists for evidence and they never provide it. That’s my experience.
Excellent comment...and so so true.
@@DM-dk7jsDo you want to see some videos from before 2020 about a virus, since the gift of prophecy is a very real thing? I can give you some links. God warns his children in advance. Millions of us can tell stories of our own personal experiences but most people just blow us off and don't believe us (for no reason). However, there is proof of the gift of prophecy operating so maybe you would like to see that? I can give you a link right now to a video a woman made in 2019 about Covid. Oh and just for your own future reference... I had a dream about H1N1 like a month ago. I had a dream of a virus in 2018 as well, but youtube hid the evidence.
That is really cool I am happy to hear that I have not had the chance to investigate this specific case as I only stumbled upon it this morning, I hope it provides food for thought :)
ua-cam.com/video/SIiEo_xNKB0/v-deo.htmlsi=cl-oXEoiz0Lhy1Rb
@@DM-dk7js
Its just that there is absolutly 0 evidence for spagettimonster creating this world
I kinda LOVE that these kids are challenging some of the worlds most brilliant minds who have also asked these very same questions. God KNOWS that we are doubtful beings. We lack trust and belief and asking questions is all part of the "seeking Him" process. Those who genuinely look to find answers other than the existance of God WILL find it. It all comes down to the stance of ones heart!!!
These experts have spent their whole lives trying to disprove the existance of God and His hand in creation. They too were unbelievers - and after years and years of research they've finally concluded that God DOES infact exist. That Gods design is perfect in its form. That His perfect love letter has been given to us in the form of His son, in creation, in His word and also in our very DNA. There is no denying His magnificence.
To paraphrase: “If there is an omnipresent, omnipotent, all powerful God who created the universe, (including me) and has eternal wisdom beyond my imagination, I would not worship him because I think I’m better than him.”
Oof come on, dude
It's called PRIDE.
As simple as that.
Hence the serpent's temptation "you will be as gods"...
pride = rejection of doubt
The god of the bible is not that smart
@@andrewwright9960 I think my 10 year old said something similar when taking a crack at Plato's The Republic...
Read your bible the Christian god is a bit childish and lacks human understanding
*_God Bless_*
just more god of the gaps - what we don't understand must be the gods.
I hope that one day, you do see there is a God, But it is your free will to choose what you believe. But understand you Can't always believe that you must Know everything, Like you don't know if one day, your heart might stop, Or a drunk driver Is driving the streets and happens to ram Into your car? If you trust only what you can see, How do you make Decisions on a day to day basic? there is many grey areas. I will let you be now, but Think about this? Nothing is guaranteed.
@@calren4194you understand how big paradox is humans having free will and all knowing god?
@@-wretched1 I prefer to call it a perception of free will which is a construct of the mind.
One thing I need to clarify. Confucius never said treat others the way you want to be treated. He only said don't do onto others what you don't want others to do to you. That's not the same as "Love thy neighbor as thyself". A person can always choose to do nothing to anyone else. What Jesus asked is more.
Trust me. I was forced to study Confucius for a decade as a kid. Please don't lower my savior and mess up my culture. it's double ouch.
Good stuff. I really enjoy your channel. Thank you 🙏🏼
I love these videos - they never prove anything. This guy sits here smugly like he's proved god exists everytime - every-time he's failed. Everytime.
Reasoning is a pleasure.
What god you are looking for? There is scientific evidence of God of the Bible - Energy. 1st law of Thermodynamics explain that.
You can’t get something from nothing…
@@mellyo7262they said the same thing about lightning and called Zeus the god that preceded it. You are doing the same
@@vp-systems4375thermodynamics do not prove a god exists
Daily dose of idiocy. Repeating the god of the gaps argument and the watchmaker fallacy doesnt make them by magic correct.
If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religous people.
And people still fall for it.
You are so mad its sad. Why does the belief of others bother you so much? I hope you find peace ❤
@wingamwila4113 because we think that others believe incorrect things. The same reason religious people might be upset that atheists exist
Whats the alternate explanation of order in the universe? Never heard one before but humor me
Salesmanship 101: (1) boil everything down to as few options as possible. (2) present the one you want them to accept and the other one something absurd. (3) If they present anything outside of the choices, directly ask if they believe in the absurd. Rinse a repeat.
As far as there needing to be a personal being because they created everything is a assertion. Could not a god create the universe and in doing so create the mechanisms which led to life. He didn't address the students disbelief in a personal god he just asserted it. He asks as if things aren't ever created with intentionally. A history of chemistry will swiftly disprove such notions.
A young person, no matter what truth they are taught at home or in church or in college, their so-called "faith" has to become their own. They cannot stand upon mom or dad's faith out in the real world. They have to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and "know" Him for themselves; that's what it means to be "born again from above!!"
Thank you. I've been struggling with my faith for years. Finding your videos realigning me. I just don't know what God expecte of me, but that is probably my inner child still suffering from the immature and toxic parents, who didn't properly engage with me as a real person, but left me raise myself up alone and through my siblings, who experienced the same irresponaibility. I'm tired. 37 yo, a few therapis and still struggling with toxic shame and not being acknowledged.
he expects you to believe that Jesus came to earth and died for your sins. Forgive your parents they are human, God knows you and see you
It really just sounds like this is torture for you.
A lot of guilt and shame and pain is lost when you just read and learn that it's impossible for a god of any man-made book to exist, but that you have the willpower yourself to fix your situation, despite how hard or difficult you believe it may be. There's always a sliver of hope that we can overcome.
Read what God says about you, believe ONLY that. Then "take every thought captive" - any thought that is opposite to what God says about you, is a lie.
It is a journey, with God, start it today.
Im glad you mentioned to pray for that man and people like him, sometimes we forget that need.
It's understandable people would forget, given prayer doesn't work.
@@majmage what makes you say that?
@@ludge135 A. The lack of evidence it does work.
B. The evidence it doesn't work, like the 2006 STEP Project (largest-ever prayer study, which found prayer had no effect, or a slightly negative effect).
3. The "design" of prayer seemed to perfectly exploit confirmation bias (which is why people who pray to anything else -- other gods, or even non-god things like rocks -- also report their prayers "working")
@@majmage Researchers from the university of Texas, Colorado, and Florida did a 9 year study with 22,000 people finding that people whom attend Church multiple times a week live to 83 while those who do not attend at all live to 75
In the 2006 STEP study, is it possible that those who prayed for healing were not righteous? If so, their prayer would have no affect. “If one turns away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer is an abomination.”
Proverbs 28:9 ESV
@@ludge135 What you're describing is confirmation bias: finding a reason to ignore the data that doesn't agree with something you want to believe.
Whereas to me it seems like the clear explanation of people living longer is the benefit of a tight community. Personally I'd expect to see an extremely similar benefit to anyone who voluntarily engages in a community like that multiple times a week. But if your study actually studied secular and religious "social" individuals and found the religious ones specifically were the only ones living longer, then sure that'd be quite interesting.
This felt unfinished. Pride is the devil's favorite sin. It is sad how many young people are corrupted in college. My daughter who was raised in the Church from birth now has skewed beliefs and no longer attends Mass. It is sad beyond belief how much power the educational system has to literally destroy the moral and ethical belief system parents have given their children. Its purpose is to separate the child from the parent and distort the values of Christianity to change the moral views of young people. Please parents do your research and consider a religious college that will uphold the values you have sought so hard to instill in your children. Don't fall prey to these racist, atheistic, and immoral institutions! Sadly, I did and I have lost my daughter because of it. One last thought: it is my daughter's empathy that causes her to see today's immoral community in a positive light. The devil is strong. Never in a million years did I think this could happen to my child and BAM, it happened. Sad world we live in.
Saying God exists is not an extraordinary claim, its what we would expect based on the evidence.
Right, it's reasoned backwards. I've noticed this as well. It's simply "I want to do X and behave in X manner". "Therefore I will determine that I will believe Y".
The thing is that empathy alone is a very shallow standard for morality. Empathy is why people will drive by thousands of homeless people on their way home from work, and then donate their money to a movie star who is coming up short on their taxes. Why do they do this? Because they heard a story about a person they cared about: The movie star. And they felt compelled to help. But allll the other moral criteria for making a decision on what to do with their wealth did not come into play. They didn't consider the principle of universal greatest benefit. They didn't consider fairness, or equality, or any other principles. They just considered empathy. They were moved by a personal emotion, and gratified that emotion in a very selfish way, a way that would make them feel most significant. And that is what happens when people consider only a single moral principle. To say your moral standard is "empathy" is to say you are selfish, and gratify your emotions selfishly with the goal of making yourself feel good. But ignore what is overall, in totality, good.
If the laws of the universe can create life through evolutionary processes the that does not disprove God. God can be the one behind the laws which allow life to exist. This is a much better argument for God than to say evolution is not real. But I don’t know if this speaker is trying to say this.
The truth is we will never truly understand God and our true nature with the faculties that we have as humans. We are spirits of God having a human experience and are extremely limited. Trying to understand pure consciousness or God through a small, limited, human mind is impossible. We can glimpse it by looking inward, humbling ourselves to God, and engaging in self-reflection, prayer, and meditation. All of the problems we see in the history of the world come from mankind and the ego, nothing else. If we saw each other as we really are - God consciousness having a human experience - there would be no problems. But this is all part of the game: awakening to our true selves, amongst the illusion of material nature which is perceived through a limited mind in order to transcend our consciousness and habitation on this earth.
Not many will understand this.
That’s absolutely fascinating, because part of the battle is integrating your ego. This atheist has his own God complex that won’t allow him to believe in God
My son says he wants proof God exists but when you try to guided him to said proof he will not go look at it. Those who do not wish to see the truth will find anyway to deny God. All you can do is pray it is in the will of God to soften their hearts and lead them to Him.
Show him this... hopefully he will see:
According to The Book of Knowledge: The Keys of Enoch, the Divine Names are associated with the biblical and extra-biblical Names of God.
The correlation is made that the Divine Name YHVH serves as the key behind the transcription code of chemical letters that form our human body.
The Divine Name YHVH is spelled with four letters (Y-H-V-H), but it uses only three from the Hebrew alphabet (Y-H-V, with the H repeated).
Similarly, DNA or RNA contain four nucleotides as “letters,” but they read only three at a time to create codons that code for amino acids.
Just as DNA sequences can be rearranged for different functions, the Divine Name can also be rearranged (e.g., V-H-Y, H-Y-V, H-H-V).
The primal matrix square, called “Word Spirit,” consists of permutations of the Tetragrammaton (Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh), akin to the DNA code.
John 1:1 states, “In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was with God, and the WORD was God,” emphasizing the creative role of the Divine Name in creation1.
Atomic Mass Correspondence:
Another perspective suggests that elements in DNA can be translated into letters based on their atomic mass.
Hydrogen corresponds to the Hebrew letter Yod (Y), nitrogen to Hey (H), oxygen to Wav (V or W), and carbon to Gimel (G)
I am SO EXCITED and grateful for UA-cam. It is not just a tool for teaching and learning. It's a master tool for refining ideas and theories and sharpening and perfecting the apologetic thoughts and arguments which can and will cause unbelievers young and old to face the undeniable truth of their Creators' existence and of their guilt before Him and the Truth of His Son's sacrifice and resurrection from the dead.
"…that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God"
How did everything come into existence? It is much more logical to believe that "God" has done this compared to the alternative that it is all random. The level of complexity and intricacies make it mathematically impossible to have just happened. Lee Strobel did a great job with his book, The case for Creation. Surrender body, mind and soul to Father God. Jesus Christ is returning very soon to dispose of all evil and bring His Father's kingdom to earth.
This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. He basically says, "facts? I don't need those ... heres what I believe! No, I dont have any evidence to support it!"
There is no evidence for or against religion. There's a reason it's called a "faith"
Jesus is king of kings and lord of lords no one gets into heaven without Jesus ❤🎉
Pray for one of my friends who left Bible College and rejected the truth for these reasons.
"You cant prove something that is immaterial."
Oh, really? One word:
WIND.
the kid doesn’t realize that he himself, puts FAITH in things with zero proof as is. such as faith in friendships, marriage, your employer paying you, faith in a driver hoping he doesn’t serve and hit you etc… etc… faith in IMPERFECT things and people. but yet the kid refuses to put faith in the PERFECT blood of Jesus. 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 what a contradiction in terms.
Well, one can demonstrate that friends and family actually exist
But you decided not To put your faith In the creator of this universe. The all might and all knowing. All good and all loving spaghettimonster.
You need To deny your false god and Come be with the real creator.
This man has a patience voice, and I appreciate the chance to learn from it.
The student who was asking all the questions simply wanted to remain in that position for the whole time. That is not looking for an honest answer. Even if his line of thinking defies logic, he wouldn’t step aside and admit his own insufficiency.
I think it's just difficult for some people to admit that they do not want to believe. That is literally their god-given right but that's is what it is in so many situations. It's not the matter of the questions or them needing something it's that they do not want to believe. I don't mean everybody who questions, means that they don't want to believe I just mean that there are some people who refuse to believe regardless of evidence or circumstances