NONE OF THEM have genuinely read the Bible, especially Noah’s ark. God didn’t “choose his favorite people” to save, in fact, he ALLOWED Noah to warn others to join him on the ark. He WARNED THEM FOR YEARS but they refused and mocked him. Why don’t they mentioned that part?….You can’t force someone to be saved when they don’t want to.
Excellent! She didn’t STUDY the scriptures. Odds are, she heard a third hand narrative of the scriptures and now feels she is educated towards them. You nailed it, Noah warned them for years as to what was come if they didn’t repent. Instead they rejected his teachings. I’m surprised Cliffe didn’t pick up on that. Well done! 👏
Well she’s technically right. And let’s be honest. How can Noah travel the world and spread that he’s building a boat while he works on the boat at the same time…… What she’s saying Right and wrong is subjective. And God is also being subjective in the way he dealt with things. God tells us not to be jealous, yet jealous. Not to kill, but goes and kills…I think that was her point Rather the ppl believed Noah or not doesn’t matter because God destroyed the entire earth (including babies and children and cattle’s) to start over and still have the same things happen… Why reset the world by water, now fire. Why keep resetting the world just to have the same things happen???
@@Sweets-qg5be I’ll try my best to answer your questions assuming that they are genuine--Respectfully, you’ve brought some points that are nowhere in the Bible. There’s no passage that says Noah “traveled the world preaching about the boat while building the boat at the same time” per se, but it’s possible that both can be done in the same timeline before the initial flood. It’s also unclear whether (from what I know by my surface level understanding of scholars’ teachings as both are debated) whether the flood was really in Noah’s part or section of the world (as the “whole earth” could be an exaggeration to make a point), or literally every inch of the globe. Even then, it’s constantly shown throughout the Bible that before destruction hits, God gives people A LOT of time to change and repent before letting his judgment take place. He doesn’t warn them on day one and then pass his judgement on day two. Noah warned them for 100+ years and they hated him so much so, that in their rebellion they even tried to kill him. God also never just arbitrary allows his judgement to pass. The book of Genesis tells the exact reason why God had to judge the people - Genesis 6: 1-5. Secondly when the Bible says God is a “jealous God” it is not a comparison to how we humans are jealous of a person’s belongings or abilities. This “jealousy” or envy that we have to others is due to us wanting things that we don’t have, this is a selfish kind of desire. It is not wrong for God to demand worship that belongs to him in the first place, it is not wrong for the holy, pure, all knowing, powerful, creator - GOD to demand something that is rightfully due to him. His “jealousy” isn’t wanting something that doesn’t belong to him and it’s not a thing that leads us to our demise as he is protecting us from worshiping idols and false things that lead us towards the wrong path. Overall, it benefits us to turn to him in worship as he says in Jeremiah 29:11 - “”For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.”” Thirdly, God has the power to give life and take away life anytime he wants. He is the creator of it, he knows the mechanisms of it, he knows the ins and outs of life and death. God cannot “murder” as he alone has the ability to “give” life to whoever he wants. When it comes to US on the other hand, no one has the right to take life (besides self defense which is a whole other topic), and usually when you look at the intent for murder in most cases, it’s out of selfishness, greed, or the wicked intents of a person. We can’t “create” life or “give” life from scratch, we are not the source of life, God is. Throughout every human experience, our lives intertwine and many of us face the consequences of others that live closest to us, hence why the children would be affected by the actions of their parents too. A father that smokes around his child, is going to end up causing his child to fall sick with many illnesses. A son that joins gangs is inherently putting the lives of his family in danger. However, if God can take the lives of the children in the flood by letting his judgement pass, their final destinations is in paradise with him, not because they are at fault, but because of the decisions of their parents. Still a tough issue, but I’m doing my best to reason with you. Lastly, the story of Genesis explains specifically that the world was destroyed because of the wickedness of people and the nephilims which were the outcomes of fallen angels mating with humans. This act was an abomination and it was also destroying the bloodline of humans making it impure. This destruction of humanity’s bloodline would have prevented the following generations of people that needed to come that eventually lead to the coming of the Messiah which was supposed to destroy and overcome the bondage sin and damnation had on all of us. God however promised not to destroy the world by flood ever again, but because he is just and holy judge, he also can’t turn a blind eye to evil at the end of the day. His final judgement would be hell, which is separation from him.
@@sandras.9312. Normally when I see very long posts like yours, I click off… but reading your response was worth the time. Very well written and enlightening. Thank you for your input. ❤ 🙌😇
Cliffe has an amazing ability to ignore little (inconsequential) falsehoods that people utter and stick to the subject they are supposed to be debating. He doesn't correct people on stuff that isn't important to that subject. Unlike most of us, he doesn't seem to be easily sidetracked. I am praying for you Cliffe, your crew, and your mission.
Cliffe has an amazing ability to ignore every fact that doesn't fit his narrative and to attack everyone that will dare to challenge him. The first guy tells him: "Jesus said that the pure in heart will see God". Cliffe replies (angrily) in 3:21: "No, he didn't say that. He said 'Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God". The only difference between the two phrases is that the guy missed the "Blessed are". Cliffe made a fuss that the young man misquoted the Bible (which he didn't) instead of replying to an argument based on a legitimate Bible verse that challenged his notion about hell and salvation. Cliffe didn't spend time to explain what Jesus meant to say with the phrase that the young man rightfully quoted. He prefered to use rhetorics, just to silence him. If this is a way to show he is "a letter from Christ" (2 Corinthians 3:3) I have nothing to add.
@@AndMakrid well it was pretty big difference by just adding the words “blessed are” to the quote. The young man was quoting a good bit of scripture so he seemed well versed and had enough intellect to distinguish his mistake. You can’t misquote God’s scripture to make a point. But hey you found out Cliff is human like all of us 👍🏽. If he had to respond to everything like your critique suggests he wouldn’t be very effective in his delivery.
@@ycee21 If you believe that the difference between the two phrases was "pretty big" why didn't YOU explain that difference in its essence? * "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God" * "The pure in heart shall see God". What "pretty big" difference do the words "blessed are" make to the rest of the sentence? Do they negate the fact that the pure in heart shall see God? Or maybe they mean that the sighting of God is not a priviledge of the pure in heart? If the latter is true, how come that they are "blessed" then? No my friend. The young guy had enough intellect but not enough experience to face an older interlocutor who interrupted him angrily to avoid his own disproval. Mr Cliff has been lucky enough to have met with young people with limited knowledge of the Bible, or with limited experience of debates. And in this case, he only proved that he was afraid of the phrase "pure in heart": He was afraid of it, because he instictivly understood that he could claim the exclusivity of salvation, but he couldn't claim the exclusivity of the purity of heart, which is not a theoretical quality but an visible quality. And such a situation is always highly problematic...
@@AndMakrid the guys quote “the pure in heart” could mean simply anyone who leads a good life or is morally right by the worlds standards. Meaning they don’t have to put their faith in Jesus which would make it a salvation issue- hence the point they were talking about. However since the correct quote is “blessed are” it takes on a different meaning. Who is doing the blessing? The Lord. Who is the Lord specifically trying to reach in this passage? Well read the full passage Mathew 5:11 points to it talking about God’s children. No matter how good you are your going to sin and if your not repenting to the lord who laid down his life and trying to do right by His standards then you will not see the gates of Heaven. no matter how pure you are by the worlds standards, it doesn’t make you pure in God’s eyes. This makes it a huge point!
The patience you guys practice while dealing with some of the nations nastiest narcissists is an amazing display of the work of the Holy Spirit. God bless you guys. And may the Spirit work in the cold hearts of our egotistical human hearts. Lord help us break down these personal towers of Babel we’ve been programmed to build for ourselves in our hearts and minds. Amen.
Amen to that! The lady at the end especially! Really had to try and keep it together during that whole segment. Ooh boy! Thank God for men like Cliffe who can keep it together enough to debate with atheists with short tempers
Cliff is a very strong foundation and defender of the Christian faith. He is way much better than most priests, pastors, and other religious leaders. He is a game-changer in doing the way he does and affecting the lives of peoples in a global scale. God bless him!
Cliffe has literally saved me from the devil. He's the only reason I'm where i am today! Praise the lord for the wonderful gift cliffe has been blessed with! Edit: I realized there was a major misconception about what o wrote. I was meaning that cliffe helped guide me to christ. Without discovering cliffe, I wouldn't have discovered Jesus. And j know that God put cliffe on this earth with his incredible skills of speech for a reason. I was nit intending to seem to be idolizing cliffe. Simply stating that due to God's gift of speaking that he granted to cliffe, I wouldn't be where I am today.
I am a Christian. And I am so amazed with the work you have been doing for so many years while trying to reach out so many people to the Truth. It makes me think if I am doing anything at all as a Christian. Your videos show how much people know so less about God and care less about the end of it all. It is sad. We all think we live once, do as we will and die. Nobody understands the importance God has given us. His love is boundless and his mercy is incomparable
What amazes me is all these people that argue the Bible and the existence of Jesus being God, and they have NEVER read the Bible!! How can you doubt something you know nothing about?
Father God give me strength, I seem to bear the weight of the world on my shoulders as a single mom, I often face challenges that can seem insurmountable especially with raising two children with special needs. I’m trying to balance everything but Lord I’m struggling to make ends meet, to pay bills, and to put food on the table for my children. HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE ME strength. 💕❤️
And He will do just what you ask give you strength and then you have be careful to give Him the praise and tell others He’s the reason you are strong. Continue to ask Jesus to live big in you. God is great and worthy to be praised.
I'm also a single mom of two with special needs. I feel your struggle and I'm praying for you right now. I pray that He will surround you with people that will support and love you and your kids as you need to be right now. I'm sending you a big hug from Canada.
Hey, I’m also a single mom with two special needs boys. Praise God that we have both found strength when we needed it, and I pray that you and I continue to find strength in Christ. God bless you! ❤
This is super interesting since it was filmed nearly 20 years ago. I find the discussions to be much more respectful even with those who disagree. Very different than college campus culture now. Pre smartphones and people making real eye contact and listening well.
VERY WELL WRITTEN!!! Look not only at the eye contact, but, there are no rainbow people. They stole that covenant between our Lord and Noah, and are using it to represent evil.
That’s facts. Try preaching on social media and see how many people threaten, use memes and humor to scold you, and pull up your address on their computers lol
Anyone can claim they have the power to forgive sins. But When Jesus heals the paralytic man, He is proving his claim with evidence. That He is God in human flesh. Cliff knows how to interpret the scriptures. And it's a blessing to hear him speak.
Please, never have the bad luck of being a defendant in a trial using biblical logic. There is NO independent corroborating evidence that someone named Jesus ever did a single supernatural act. All we have are the gospel writers, decades after the events, claiming this or that. In court: "Your Honor, the defendant did it. I know because there is a book I read that says that some people saw him do it, and I believe the book, so...he did it!"
@@emmanuelginikanwa283 If my high school biology studies were correct, human procreation is a well-documented NATURAL process, so I know that I, sitting here, am evidence for the existence of all of my ancestors, as you are evidence for the existence of all of your ancestors. Plus, I have a few old documents of property owned by my slightly distant ancestors, one Israel Pierce, and a son of the aforementioned great great grandfather, one American Union Pierce (I kid you not!!!!). I said there is no evidence for any of the SUPERNATURAL events described in the bible. Jesus certainly existed and certainly preached and led a group of fellow worshippers. But no evidence exists for any of the supernatural acts.
@@stevepierce6467We Christians view the Bible as historical documentation. There are plenty of references of people who witnessed the miracles mentioned in the Bible. This is a collection of books written by people who never knew each other, whose stories all tie together. Also, Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophesies that were written before his birth in the Old Testament. Another practical point is nearly all of Jesus’s disciples died horrendous deaths spreading the Good News, and spread the word knowing this would likely happen. Who in their right mind would be willing to die for something they know isn’t true?
Pastor Cliff, thank you for your ministry, devotion and joyful heart for the Lord Jesus Christ. ROMANS 9:15 For HE says to Moses, " I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
Praise the Lord for this pastor he is crying a loud and sharing with the people the truth of the Bible so that people can learn the will of God for themselves. He is simply just coming to the people as people will not come to the church. The Bible tells us to go out among them and preach the gospel so that many will be saved.
After listening to so many of these videos over almost a couple weeks, one thing I noticed is how clear and concise cliff is with his words and what he is saying vs many ppl that talk to/with him struggle to speak or be clear in what they are trying to say. Obviously cliff has more experience talking in front of ppl but it’s so clear that the Holy Spirit speaks through him!
Only in thriving societies where life has become so easy you find moral relativists. Most of human existence surviving was a struggle and having your basic needs met would be considered wealthy. Now we live in the greatest nation that has ever existed and people are so comfortable that they have the ability of being able to spend their time contemplating moral relativism and other intellectual exercises that no one actually lives out.
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis? I worked for a living my entire life but still found time to read and expand my horizons, learn about how people lived and thought and acted in the past and in other parts of the world. Rather than being "intellectual exercises that no one actually lives out," my intellectual pursuits have helped me immensely to understand the world I live in and the people with whom I share it. Spending time learning "contemplating," reflecting, that has been some of the best time I have ever spent. Try it. You will lose some of your insular provincialism in the process. By the way, what exactly is "moral relativism" other than recognizing that not everyone in the world shares the same moral code as you?
@@stevepierce6467Moral relativism is subjectively deciding what is personally right and wrong instead of what is right and wrong according to God in the Bible.
@@magjag8257 There is an excellent middle ground between what you describe, between being a blind fundamentalist on one side and a psychopath on the other. The vast majority of us find that the bible morality is a good compilation of the moral code for some inhabitants of the Middle East 3-4 thousand years ago. We have progressed as humans, finally relegating slavery to the dustbin of immorality. Throughout all human history people have been laboring painfully to build a moral code that reflects their society's needs and interests. Our moral code (codes, since they differ somewhat from society to society) is by no means a finished product, but we are still working on it.
@@stevepierce6467wait till you find out there's more than 40 million slaves right now. That's more than at any point in history. The dustbin is empty of slaves. How do you not know this?
This is such a blessing. Thank you for bringing me back into discussions of what matters the most. God’s word. It's so much better than politics. Thank you!
a great service would be giving a reason to believe what you do, not just asserting without evidence… anybody can just assert things are true and give no proof for it
@@roscowbrown3937 It’s a faith based religion and he uses logic and reason. No one is going to “prove” anything. He provided evidence using logic. If you think for example that the “big bang” created the universe, there is no proof logic or reason for such a belief. In fact it violates the law of conservation of energy and mass amongst many others. He’s spreading the word of God as God has commanded which in Christianity is a service to God. If you know the Bible, you would know this fundamentally.
@@strongmountain7446well then you’re just lying saying that there’s no proof of a big bang… you can’t say that something doesn’t exist when you can literally Google it, that’s just lying
@@roscowbrown3937he gives proof. Math has given proof. Science gives proof. Evidence isn’t what you are seeking. What you are truly seeking is evidence that you aren’t wrong… trying to justify the way you live and your transgressions against God, others, and even yourself. That’s what all seek when they refuse to look inside themselves, and be honest with themselves about who they are and what they’ve done. You’d rather do this instead of realizing that you have to own up to what you’ve done and it seems to scare you in a way that you won’t admit. We all do this and I don’t mean you directly. I did it for years… thankfully God never quit on me and I finally came to what I KNOW as truth. I am not a preacher I do not carry a title of any kind other than Saved. I Believe Wholeheartedly that Jesus died for my sins. I KNOW that by following his words I will receive life everlasting. I am so grateful and at the same time so sad. I am grateful for his sacrifice. For Gods Grace to forgive me as he sees me work on the things that offend him. I’m sad because I see the Bible is correct in every single day I’m alive as far as how people treat each other and what they do. This world is going full throttle into The Book of Revelations… it’s completely happening right now before our very eyes. Christians… True Christians are being condemned and hated when they never use a hateful word to spread love. They are persecuted and killed for this. That is sad. However it shows all the more that God is Real. The Bible is right, and we are coming to the end of times. I pray for all of you and Love you. In Jesus Christ name. Amen
@@roscowbrown3937 Not sure why my original response is not here… It’s a faith based religion. He uses logic and reason to produce “evidence”. For example, If you believe in the Big Bang that is blind faith without logic (it violates the laws of physics i.e the law of conservation of mass and energy. He did a service to God by speaking spreading his word. That is foundational to the Bible.
I love the videos you guys continue to put out! Thank you so much.. I’ve learned so much from Cliff and Stuart and their patience on how to break it down for so many different view points… don’t think I could ever do 1/10 of what they do. God bless you and the whole team! Going to need to take a trip to New Haven someday.
This dude is saying that if a magical ruler doesn’t exist, that evil is justified… you should recognize that evil is still evil regardless of a magical sky daddy… don’t say that this idea is correct that evils is totally great if there’s no sky daddy
@@didyouseeit7260 still not gonna prove that sky daddy is real, huh? Your just gonna assert that things are only wrong because I think sky daddy up there
Great video Cliffe. I wouldn’t have agreed with the last girls point of God whipping the earth and the innocent children as “wrong”, because the innocent went to heaven. An analogy I’d use is if I came home and my house was an utter mess and I said “enough everybody is leaving except for Noah” and half the group was put on punishment and the other half went to chuckie cheese. Sure they’re gone, but the innocent were rewarded.
The real answer is love. Without God, there is no love. If you ask a human being if he has felt some kind of love in any form or manner at one point in his life, then that is the evidence that God exists. Because human comprehension will not be able to define love because it is the ultimate thing that God has only created and innate in Him. I would say that if someone asks me if God exists, then right on the spot I will tell that God exists because human experiences love.
@@didyouseeit7260 I goofled it, nothing that leads to the conclusion that there’s a sky-daddy, not a single thing comes up in Google that leads to this conclusio
It amazes me how many people show up not to debate Cliff but to yell and be mad with the Lord 😂 ironically, it warms my heart because atleast individuals with such passion and anger (like the last lady) are searching for answers and willing to air grievances. Cliff has wonderful patience, God bless him and this channel, I pray he reaches many more ears and minds to help soften the hearts of unbelievers!
Yes, she seemed very hurt. I would love to have seen more of the talk with her to see if she was willing to listen to Cliffe and hear some of his teaching.
It doesn’t matter if she was hurt, it only matters that her argument is correct, you can’t discredit her and say she’s wrong because she’s hurt, that’s not fair
To counter the young black woman's statement that God killed everyone, animals except Noah's family is false. First of all, the animals were allowed into the ark. Secondly, God sent Noah to tell the people what was about to happen and asked them to come into the ark so they won't die, but they refused. So they made the choice.
I honestly don't know how you do this. You have the patience of a saint. The mental gymnastics these kids do to convince themselves that Christians are insane, are infuriating. 12:00 this girl takes the cake.
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People don’t understand that God ONLY has the right to take people out of the world because he’s the creator. And death is not final it’s just exit to the other world but you as a human has no right to exit a fellow human and that is called murder. 2 . In war the most casualties are innocents people. That’s to tell us your choice in life has an influence on people.3. God is a God of justice. If he doesn’t judge then he is not fair to victims of crime and evil. Many people want to judge GOD AS if they care so much for man more than GOD.
The hardened heart doesn't understand scriptures, for the Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing. That's the Word of God. Tragically, unbelievers tend to talk themselves out of the gift of salvation. They fight to remain in condemnation and subsequently talk or argue themselves right into hell. They are self righteous and think they know what they don't know. I did the same thing with such ease until I had an encounter with Jesus Christ, which radically altered the whole trajectory of my life.
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I think cliff is amazing at breaking down Christian religion. I personally witnessed things in my life, only 2 to the honest. I was an atheist, i was an agnostic, I even lent towards Satan the final one Satan was the biggest mistake of mine. But I had one amazing experience that blew my doubts away. Too long to explain. But believe me when it a burning bush thing. It still resonates with me to this day. But I had to go through everything for me to finally see the the truth. It’s very humbling.
30:30 Genesis 6:5 “And GOD saw that the wickedness of the man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” if GOD allowed the antediluvians to keep living there offspring would have been evil “where sin abounded grace did much more abound”
What I see over and over is people finding reasons to hang their hat on to reject God. They spend their time finding ways in their own way to make God out to be fake or a monster........but they've never tried to get to know Him and see for themselves.
Ironic how people can say God isn't moral based on a standard of morality that he gave them. He has the right to take an innocent life because he's the only one that can redeem life. Stop thinking God's mind works like yours. He gave life and he can take life, doesn't matter if your time on Earth is 5 years or 100, the righteous and the innocent will spend eternity with him.
Well, that may be so long as God does it (kill) himself. There's nothing I can do anyways. But what troubles me is when he commands us to do it for him. Is that also ok or moral or we humans suddenly have the right to kill others now? How do you know it's God commanding you to do so? Can we read his mind? His will? What happens when God commands your pastor or preacher to tell you to do his command to kill others? Would you do it? Would you obey him or disobey him? Joan of Arc believed she followed God's commands to fight against England, to save the French king etc. she did, but she was prosecuted and burned at the stake later. What gives?
@@tTtt-ho3tqcan you find one people group that God had the Israelites wipe out that was not utterly wicked? Do you know how long God gave them to turn away from their wicked ways before He had them wiped out?
@@tTtt-ho3tq He is patient. Ultimately, I do not know His reasoning for waiting, but it may have had to do with bringing Gibeonites into the culture of the Israelites.
Yea you can see the recording rippling from time to time. Not sure the reason but yea that’s a hilarious skip. I didn’t catch that the first time or second. Good eye lol
@@SilverbackItyeah, I bet the doesn’t think women should be forced to have kids they don’t want, and that’s somehow a double-standard, unlike you, who thinks we should force people to become parents when they’re not ready… yeah, you totally have your head on straight
God wants the relationship with you. No middle men, no distractions. Matthew 7:7-8 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. Seek him!
Cliffe said something genius at the beginning. "I can not do your homework for you" Yet week after week, month after month and year after year, atheists show up an this channel and demand that we do exactly that. Think for yourself atheists, stop outsourcing your reason to others.
You - Atheists demand we do their homework for them. Response - • Atheists, saying: you're full of nonsense, is not them, asking anything from you. • It's them, saying: you're full of nonsense. • How does anyone reach the level of stpdty that you have managed to reach.?
You - Atheists demand we do their homework for them. Response - • Atheists, saying: you're full of nonsense, is not them, asking anything from you. • It's them, saying: you're full of nonsense. • How does anyone reach the level of absurdity that you have managed to reach.?
That's exactly what they're doing when they go all, "Prove! Prove that your God exists! Where's your proof?" A lot of it is just BS. They're not looking to be convinced. It's obvious when they keep pulling Hitchen's Razor-esque style moves instead of presenting anything affirmative and insists that they don't have to present anything. Only a small handful of atheists that I've encountered would at least back off and not go that route.
And somehow, people don't think that a mighty God who created everything could have the power to make certain the texts are not changed or perverted throughout centuries. That's my argument for that. God is all knowing, omnipotent and all powerful..of course he could make sure the bible remained unchanged
Absolutely amazing! Have you thought about putting audio debates on Spotify and other streaming platforms? It'll be good to hear on a walk or on the way to work. God bless you
Yeah, amen to the guy who literally said that if there is no God, I would totally be cool with owning humans… amen to the guy who can’t say (it literally doesn’t matter if He exists or not, only a psychopath would justify that)
The guy at 19:43…bro stands there in front of one of the greatest Christian apologists of our time and says “I’m not that familiar with the Bible” while making the argument that the Bible has been interpreted too literally. YIKES
@justingary5322 "Christ was definitely the most influential and historical non military figure to have lived." I disagree. I can cite numerous historical figures way more interesting important and uncontested than Jesus. Cleopatra is one. Socrates and Plato are another. Leonardo DaVinci is way more important than Jesus. Also: every American president.
@@TboneWTF I’m not forcing anything on you. You asked a question I answered it it’s because you’re not sure yourself which is why you’re looking for an answer that pleases you. Idk if you’re trying to get me to doubt. But that is what you’re probably doing. Doubting and believing. Confusions
When addressing the guy who said Jesus never said He claimed to be God, Jesus told the Pharisees, "If you do not believe in Me, you will die in your sins." He also said, "I am The Way, The Truth The Life, no man comes unto the Father except through Me." He also said, "He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son does not have life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Jesus said, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." He prayed, "Father, give Me the glory that I had with You from the beginning..." Cliffe dropped the ball. But his heart is in the right place.
In Cliffe's newer debates/discussions he points out the reason Jews sought to stone him in John 8 and John 10:33. He makes clear that Jesus claimed to be God and that's why He was killed. Just sharing as this is an older vid. 🤗
Mankind wants to have his cake and eat it too. Jesus Christ says” But who ever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 10:33.
I think you can "logically" prove God. Creation is one of those logical arguments. So is life. It's just that people don't want to accept those arguments.
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John14:6 Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.” We can't get to heaven by works, because God doesn't pick favorites.
What I now know as a Christian with the Holy Spirit is that it’s NOT ME WHO LIVES it’s Christ within me he has my body and ownership over me, my flesh fights it and my spirit ultimately wins over my flesh, I have seen God work my heart to soften and take my hand and show me where to go to find him. Its not about your mind, God will show you if you simply ask even if you don’t yet believe:-)
If I interpret Scripture in a way that justifies, say, same-sex marriage, who has the authority to tell me I'm wrong? And I don't mean wrong in a subjective sense. What authority exists to tell me I am objectively wrong?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that the Bible has done the opposite. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
'Innocent people are being swept away' and that's fine as they're neither robbed something invaluably good, nor swept out of the hands of the allmighty!.. You might rather argue that God did them a great favor for now they're with him! Gods judgement is just. And he's power over heaven and hell!
We can never understand the reasons to the full extent of why things happen, only God knows, that is why we must put our trust in God. It is far beyond our abilities.
NONE OF THEM have genuinely read the Bible, especially Noah’s ark. God didn’t “choose his favorite people” to save, in fact, he ALLOWED Noah to warn others to join him on the ark. He WARNED THEM FOR YEARS but they refused and mocked him. Why don’t they mentioned that part?….You can’t force someone to be saved when they don’t want to.
Excellent! She didn’t STUDY the scriptures. Odds are, she heard a third hand narrative of the scriptures and now feels she is educated towards them. You nailed it, Noah warned them for years as to what was come if they didn’t repent. Instead they rejected his teachings. I’m surprised Cliffe didn’t pick up on that. Well done! 👏
Makes me wonder if the nations and tribes that the Israelites conquer once received some prophets to warn them but they rebelled.
Well she’s technically right. And let’s be honest. How can Noah travel the world and spread that he’s building a boat while he works on the boat at the same time……
What she’s saying Right and wrong is subjective. And God is also being subjective in the way he dealt with things. God tells us not to be jealous, yet jealous. Not to kill, but goes and kills…I think that was her point
Rather the ppl believed Noah or not doesn’t matter because God destroyed the entire earth (including babies and children and cattle’s) to start over and still have the same things happen…
Why reset the world by water, now fire. Why keep resetting the world just to have the same things happen???
@@Sweets-qg5be I’ll try my best to answer your questions assuming that they are genuine--Respectfully, you’ve brought some points that are nowhere in the Bible. There’s no passage that says Noah “traveled the world preaching about the boat while building the boat at the same time” per se, but it’s possible that both can be done in the same timeline before the initial flood. It’s also unclear whether (from what I know by my surface level understanding of scholars’ teachings as both are debated) whether the flood was really in Noah’s part or section of the world (as the “whole earth” could be an exaggeration to make a point), or literally every inch of the globe. Even then, it’s constantly shown throughout the Bible that before destruction hits, God gives people A LOT of time to change and repent before letting his judgment take place. He doesn’t warn them on day one and then pass his judgement on day two. Noah warned them for 100+ years and they hated him so much so, that in their rebellion they even tried to kill him. God also never just arbitrary allows his judgement to pass. The book of Genesis tells the exact reason why God had to judge the people - Genesis 6: 1-5.
Secondly when the Bible says God is a “jealous God” it is not a comparison to how we humans are jealous of a person’s belongings or abilities. This “jealousy” or envy that we have to others is due to us wanting things that we don’t have, this is a selfish kind of desire. It is not wrong for God to demand worship that belongs to him in the first place, it is not wrong for the holy, pure, all knowing, powerful, creator - GOD to demand something that is rightfully due to him. His “jealousy” isn’t wanting something that doesn’t belong to him and it’s not a thing that leads us to our demise as he is protecting us from worshiping idols and false things that lead us towards the wrong path. Overall, it benefits us to turn to him in worship as he says in Jeremiah 29:11 -
“”For I know the plans I have for you,” declares the Lord, “plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.””
Thirdly, God has the power to give life and take away life anytime he wants. He is the creator of it, he knows the mechanisms of it, he knows the ins and outs of life and death. God cannot “murder” as he alone has the ability to “give” life to whoever he wants. When it comes to US on the other hand, no one has the right to take life (besides self defense which is a whole other topic), and usually when you look at the intent for murder in most cases, it’s out of selfishness, greed, or the wicked intents of a person. We can’t “create” life or “give” life from scratch, we are not the source of life, God is. Throughout every human experience, our lives intertwine and many of us face the consequences of others that live closest to us, hence why the children would be affected by the actions of their parents too. A father that smokes around his child, is going to end up causing his child to fall sick with many illnesses. A son that joins gangs is inherently putting the lives of his family in danger. However, if God can take the lives of the children in the flood by letting his judgement pass, their final destinations is in paradise with him, not because they are at fault, but because of the decisions of their parents. Still a tough issue, but I’m doing my best to reason with you.
Lastly, the story of Genesis explains specifically that the world was destroyed because of the wickedness of people and the nephilims which were the outcomes of fallen angels mating with humans. This act was an abomination and it was also destroying the bloodline of humans making it impure. This destruction of humanity’s bloodline would have prevented the following generations of people that needed to come that eventually lead to the coming of the Messiah which was supposed to destroy and overcome the bondage sin and damnation had on all of us. God however promised not to destroy the world by flood ever again, but because he is just and holy judge, he also can’t turn a blind eye to evil at the end of the day. His final judgement would be hell, which is separation from him.
@@sandras.9312. Normally when I see very long posts like yours, I click off… but reading your response was worth the time. Very well written and enlightening. Thank you for your input. ❤ 🙌😇
Cliffe has an amazing ability to ignore little (inconsequential) falsehoods that people utter and stick to the subject they are supposed to be debating. He doesn't correct people on stuff that isn't important to that subject. Unlike most of us, he doesn't seem to be easily sidetracked.
I am praying for you Cliffe, your crew, and your mission.
Cliffe has an amazing ability to ignore every fact that doesn't fit his narrative and to attack everyone that will dare to challenge him.
The first guy tells him: "Jesus said that the pure in heart will see God".
Cliffe replies (angrily) in 3:21: "No, he didn't say that. He said 'Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God".
The only difference between the two phrases is that the guy missed the "Blessed are". Cliffe made a fuss that the young man misquoted the Bible (which he didn't) instead of replying to an argument based on a legitimate Bible verse that challenged his notion about hell and salvation.
Cliffe didn't spend time to explain what Jesus meant to say with the phrase that the young man rightfully quoted. He prefered to use rhetorics, just to silence him. If this is a way to show he is "a letter from Christ" (2 Corinthians 3:3) I have nothing to add.
@@AndMakrid well it was pretty big difference by just adding the words “blessed are” to the quote. The young man was quoting a good bit of scripture so he seemed well versed and had enough intellect to distinguish his mistake. You can’t misquote God’s scripture to make a point. But hey you found out Cliff is human like all of us 👍🏽. If he had to respond to everything like your critique suggests he wouldn’t be very effective in his delivery.
@@ycee21 If you believe that the difference between the two phrases was "pretty big" why didn't YOU explain that difference in its essence?
* "Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God"
* "The pure in heart shall see God".
What "pretty big" difference do the words "blessed are" make to the rest of the sentence? Do they negate the fact that the pure in heart shall see God? Or maybe they mean that the sighting of God is not a priviledge of the pure in heart? If the latter is true, how come that they are "blessed" then?
No my friend. The young guy had enough intellect but not enough experience to face an older interlocutor who interrupted him angrily to avoid his own disproval.
Mr Cliff has been lucky enough to have met with young people with limited knowledge of the Bible, or with limited experience of debates. And in this case, he only proved that he was afraid of the phrase "pure in heart": He was afraid of it, because he instictivly understood that he could claim the exclusivity of salvation, but he couldn't claim the exclusivity of the purity of heart, which is not a theoretical quality but an visible quality. And such a situation is always highly problematic...
@@AndMakrid the guys quote “the pure in heart” could mean simply anyone who leads a good life or is morally right by the worlds standards. Meaning they don’t have to put their faith in Jesus which would make it a salvation issue- hence the point they were talking about. However since the correct quote is “blessed are” it takes on a different meaning. Who is doing the blessing? The Lord. Who is the Lord specifically trying to reach in this passage? Well read the full passage Mathew 5:11 points to it talking about God’s children. No matter how good you are your going to sin and if your not repenting to the lord who laid down his life and trying to do right by His standards then you will not see the gates of Heaven. no matter how pure you are by the worlds standards, it doesn’t make you pure in God’s eyes. This makes it a huge point!
@@AndMakrid imagine if cliff had to have this back and forth. Would take up a lot of time.
The patience you guys practice while dealing with some of the nations nastiest narcissists is an amazing display of the work of the Holy Spirit. God bless you guys. And may the Spirit work in the cold hearts of our egotistical human hearts. Lord help us break down these personal towers of Babel we’ve been programmed to build for ourselves in our hearts and minds. Amen.
Amen to that! The lady at the end especially! Really had to try and keep it together during that whole segment. Ooh boy! Thank God for men like Cliffe who can keep it together enough to debate with atheists with short tempers
@@codybyas2675 he sets a great example for sure!
The irony in calling people narcissistic while professing to believing in a magical being while never proving it is equally amazing
@@roscowbrown3937you cannot prove God is real however there overwhelming evidence for His Existence
@@roscowbrown3937 so Christian’s can’t recognize narcissism? What in the world is your point?
Listening to these videos by Cliffe really helped my understanding of Jesus and changed my view on life. I'm grateful 🕊!
Mine too. Thank you God for giving me an understanding of how to follow Jesus. Praise God
When did you start listening?
@@domcruise274 Around the end of June, I actually just bought a bible 3 weeks ago. It's been nice!
Cliff is a very strong foundation and defender of the Christian faith. He is way much better than most priests, pastors, and other religious leaders. He is a game-changer in doing the way he does and affecting the lives of peoples in a global scale. God bless him!
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Cliffe has encouraged me to do the research myself I am now more sure than ever that Jesus is the way the truth and the life ❤✝️🙌🏽
AAAMMMEEENNNN!!!!👏🏼👏🏼🙌🙌🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Cliffe has literally saved me from the devil. He's the only reason I'm where i am today! Praise the lord for the wonderful gift cliffe has been blessed with!
Edit: I realized there was a major misconception about what o wrote. I was meaning that cliffe helped guide me to christ. Without discovering cliffe, I wouldn't have discovered Jesus. And j know that God put cliffe on this earth with his incredible skills of speech for a reason. I was nit intending to seem to be idolizing cliffe. Simply stating that due to God's gift of speaking that he granted to cliffe, I wouldn't be where I am today.
I’m glad Cliffe has been a blessing. But remember Christ is the one who saves, not Cliffe. 👍
@wh9174 absolutely, I was meaning cliffe helped guide me to Jesus which in turn saved me. I misspoke, that's my bad
Glory to God!!! Let's praise him for giving Cliffe and other Christians the right words to open their hearts. 🙌🙌
God saved you through Cliffe, and God can save others through you.
@@Ava.parnellruns.5678I knew what you meant. ❤ may the Lord continue to bless you.
This man is courageous!
More grace sir🙏
i just scream nooo when i hear the song slowy getting louder when im so hooked on the topic
Same
Fammmm😂😂😂
I am a Christian. And I am so amazed with the work you have been doing for so many years while trying to reach out so many people to the Truth. It makes me think if I am doing anything at all as a Christian. Your videos show how much people know so less about God and care less about the end of it all. It is sad. We all think we live once, do as we will and die. Nobody understands the importance God has given us. His love is boundless and his mercy is incomparable
Well if you or Cliff could prove God, then we would absolutely know more about Him
Cliff has changed me for the better.
Cannot thank him enough!
What amazes me is all these people that argue the Bible and the existence of Jesus being God, and they have NEVER read the Bible!! How can you doubt something you know nothing about?
@@JennaD7207 maybe because they're afraid of it? 🤷♀️
Father God give me strength, I seem to bear the weight of the world on my shoulders as a single mom, I often face challenges that can seem insurmountable especially with raising two children with special needs. I’m trying to balance everything but Lord I’m struggling to make ends meet, to pay bills, and to put food on the table for my children. HEAVENLY FATHER GIVE ME strength. 💕❤️
And He will do just what you ask give you strength and then you have be careful to give Him the praise and tell others He’s the reason you are strong. Continue to ask Jesus to live big in you. God is great and worthy to be praised.
I'm also a single mom of two with special needs. I feel your struggle and I'm praying for you right now. I pray that He will surround you with people that will support and love you and your kids as you need to be right now. I'm sending you a big hug from Canada.
sorry to hear your pains. what steps are you currently taking to turn things around?
Receive strength my ❤❤
Hey, I’m also a single mom with two special needs boys. Praise God that we have both found strength when we needed it, and I pray that you and I continue to find strength in Christ. God bless you! ❤
THIS IS MY COLLEGE! I WISH I WAS THERE WHEN HE WAS THERE!! That’s so dope we need Cliff there again!
Perfect timing to listen to this on the way to work
May the Lord be with you, protect you, and bless your work.
23:54 that young man is seriously close to getting saved. He seems genuinely interested
That guy in the red, hooded top; bless him, was challenging Cliffe’s wide-leg-stance superiority. Bold!
He was so animated. He danced with ever word he spoke.
Unfortunately, he lost all credibility with his act.
I hope you are joking. The kid was a joke.
@@spacecoastz4026The “kid” is learning; give him a break.
I feel like he was on something... off his head a little and consumed in self
He was so fun to watch XD
This is super interesting since it was filmed nearly 20 years ago. I find the discussions to be much more respectful even with those who disagree. Very different than college campus culture now. Pre smartphones and people making real eye contact and listening well.
VERY WELL WRITTEN!!!
Look not only at the eye contact, but, there are no rainbow people. They stole that covenant between our Lord and Noah, and are using it to represent evil.
That’s facts. Try preaching on social media and see how many people threaten, use memes and humor to scold you, and pull up your address on their computers lol
Anyone can claim they have the power to forgive sins. But When Jesus heals the paralytic man, He is proving his claim with evidence. That He is God in human flesh. Cliff knows how to interpret the scriptures. And it's a blessing to hear him speak.
Please, never have the bad luck of being a defendant in a trial using biblical logic. There is NO independent corroborating evidence that someone named Jesus ever did a single supernatural act. All we have are the gospel writers, decades after the events, claiming this or that. In court: "Your Honor, the defendant did it. I know because there is a book I read that says that some people saw him do it, and I believe the book, so...he did it!"
@@stevepierce6467...your honor,show me evidence that your great great grand father existed?
@@emmanuelginikanwa283 If my high school biology studies were correct, human procreation is a well-documented NATURAL process, so I know that I, sitting here, am evidence for the existence of all of my ancestors, as you are evidence for the existence of all of your ancestors. Plus, I have a few old documents of property owned by my slightly distant ancestors, one Israel Pierce, and a son of the aforementioned great great grandfather, one American Union Pierce (I kid you not!!!!). I said there is no evidence for any of the SUPERNATURAL events described in the bible. Jesus certainly existed and certainly preached and led a group of fellow worshippers. But no evidence exists for any of the supernatural acts.
@@stevepierce6467We Christians view the Bible as historical documentation. There are plenty of references of people who witnessed the miracles mentioned in the Bible. This is a collection of books written by people who never knew each other, whose stories all tie together. Also, Jesus fulfilled over 300 prophesies that were written before his birth in the Old Testament. Another practical point is nearly all of Jesus’s disciples died horrendous deaths spreading the Good News, and spread the word knowing this would likely happen. Who in their right mind would be willing to die for something they know isn’t true?
@@stevepierce6467 and that, my friend, is credence to the existence of A God.... class dismissed
Pastor Cliff, thank you for your ministry, devotion and joyful heart for the Lord Jesus Christ. ROMANS 9:15 For HE says to Moses, " I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."
I love listening to this man; he speaks meaningful sense 🙏♥️
Praise the Lord for this pastor he is crying a loud and sharing with the people the truth of the Bible so that people can learn the will of God for themselves. He is simply just coming to the people as people will not come to the church. The Bible tells us to go out among them and preach the gospel so that many will be saved.
After listening to so many of these videos over almost a couple weeks, one thing I noticed is how clear and concise cliff is with his words and what he is saying vs many ppl that talk to/with him struggle to speak or be clear in what they are trying to say. Obviously cliff has more experience talking in front of ppl but it’s so clear that the Holy Spirit speaks through him!
Only in thriving societies where life has become so easy you find moral relativists. Most of human existence surviving was a struggle and having your basic needs met would be considered wealthy. Now we live in the greatest nation that has ever existed and people are so comfortable that they have the ability of being able to spend their time contemplating moral relativism and other intellectual exercises that no one actually lives out.
Whatchu talkin' 'bout, Willis? I worked for a living my entire life but still found time to read and expand my horizons, learn about how people lived and thought and acted in the past and in other parts of the world. Rather than being "intellectual exercises that no one actually lives out," my intellectual pursuits have helped me immensely to understand the world I live in and the people with whom I share it. Spending time learning "contemplating," reflecting, that has been some of the best time I have ever spent. Try it. You will lose some of your insular provincialism in the process. By the way, what exactly is "moral relativism" other than recognizing that not everyone in the world shares the same moral code as you?
You make a very good point. Moral relativists are the equivalent of entitled brats.
@@stevepierce6467Moral relativism is subjectively deciding what is personally right and wrong instead of what is right and wrong according to God in the Bible.
@@magjag8257 There is an excellent middle ground between what you describe, between being a blind fundamentalist on one side and a psychopath on the other. The vast majority of us find that the bible morality is a good compilation of the moral code for some inhabitants of the Middle East 3-4 thousand years ago. We have progressed as humans, finally relegating slavery to the dustbin of immorality. Throughout all human history people have been laboring painfully to build a moral code that reflects their society's needs and interests. Our moral code (codes, since they differ somewhat from society to society) is by no means a finished product, but we are still working on it.
@@stevepierce6467wait till you find out there's more than 40 million slaves right now. That's more than at any point in history. The dustbin is empty of slaves. How do you not know this?
This is such a blessing. Thank you for bringing me back into discussions of what matters the most. God’s word. It's so much better than politics. Thank you!
Pastor Cliffe, you sir, are doing a great service to the Lord. Amen. May God bless you.
a great service would be giving a reason to believe what you do, not just asserting without evidence… anybody can just assert things are true and give no proof for it
@@roscowbrown3937 It’s a faith based religion and he uses logic and reason. No one is going to “prove” anything. He provided evidence using logic. If you think for example that the “big bang” created the universe, there is no proof logic or reason for such a belief. In fact it violates the law of conservation of energy and mass amongst many others. He’s spreading the word of God as God has commanded which in Christianity is a service to God. If you know the Bible, you would know this fundamentally.
@@strongmountain7446well then you’re just lying saying that there’s no proof of a big bang… you can’t say that something doesn’t exist when you can literally Google it, that’s just lying
@@roscowbrown3937he gives proof. Math has given proof. Science gives proof. Evidence isn’t what you are seeking. What you are truly seeking is evidence that you aren’t wrong… trying to justify the way you live and your transgressions against God, others, and even yourself. That’s what all seek when they refuse to look inside themselves, and be honest with themselves about who they are and what they’ve done. You’d rather do this instead of realizing that you have to own up to what you’ve done and it seems to scare you in a way that you won’t admit. We all do this and I don’t mean you directly. I did it for years… thankfully God never quit on me and I finally came to what I KNOW as truth. I am not a preacher I do not carry a title of any kind other than Saved. I Believe Wholeheartedly that Jesus died for my sins. I KNOW that by following his words I will receive life everlasting. I am so grateful and at the same time so sad. I am grateful for his sacrifice. For Gods Grace to forgive me as he sees me work on the things that offend him. I’m sad because I see the Bible is correct in every single day I’m alive as far as how people treat each other and what they do. This world is going full throttle into The Book of Revelations… it’s completely happening right now before our very eyes. Christians… True Christians are being condemned and hated when they never use a hateful word to spread love. They are persecuted and killed for this. That is sad. However it shows all the more that God is Real. The Bible is right, and we are coming to the end of times. I pray for all of you and Love you. In Jesus Christ name. Amen
@@roscowbrown3937 Not sure why my original response is not here… It’s a faith based religion. He uses logic and reason to produce “evidence”. For example, If you believe in the Big Bang that is blind faith without logic (it violates the laws of physics i.e the law of conservation of mass and energy. He did a service to God by speaking spreading his word. That is foundational to the Bible.
Thank You Cliffe, for standing strong and correcting other with the truth of the Faith in Christ…
I love the videos you guys continue to put out! Thank you so much.. I’ve learned so much from Cliff and Stuart and their patience on how to break it down for so many different view points… don’t think I could ever do 1/10 of what they do. God bless you and the whole team! Going to need to take a trip to New Haven someday.
This dude is saying that if a magical ruler doesn’t exist, that evil is justified… you should recognize that evil is still evil regardless of a magical sky daddy… don’t say that this idea is correct that evils is totally great if there’s no sky daddy
@@roscowbrown3937honestly he’s right just get over it no god no good or bad and thanks again this is really funny
@@didyouseeit7260 still not gonna prove that sky daddy is real, huh? Your just gonna assert that things are only wrong because I think sky daddy up there
@@roscowbrown3937 There is God.
Great video Cliffe. I wouldn’t have agreed with the last girls point of God whipping the earth and the innocent children as “wrong”, because the innocent went to heaven. An analogy I’d use is if I came home and my house was an utter mess and I said “enough everybody is leaving except for Noah” and half the group was put on punishment and the other half went to chuckie cheese. Sure they’re gone, but the innocent were rewarded.
The real answer is love. Without God, there is no love. If you ask a human being if he has felt some kind of love in any form or manner at one point in his life, then that is the evidence that God exists. Because human comprehension will not be able to define love because it is the ultimate thing that God has only created and innate in Him. I would say that if someone asks me if God exists, then right on the spot I will tell that God exists because human experiences love.
I love it that this conversation is being had with our young adults❤
Tough love preaching. Respect.
What is with this red sweatshirt guys' stance? Stand like a man, stop hiding in your hood.
Clive is a wise man. I admire how he presents his spiritually inspired knowledge.
I like watching Cliffe videos. He teaches well but no man can save us from the devil only Jesus Christ can
not until you prove He’s real
@@roscowbrown3937just look the evidence up there plenty
@@didyouseeit7260 I goofled it, nothing that leads to the conclusion that there’s a sky-daddy, not a single thing comes up in Google that leads to this conclusio
@@roscowbrown3937how else, with magic?
@@emmanuelginikanwa283 with a valid reason to believe the thing you’re arguing for
God bless, brother Cliffe❤❤❤
One common theme I see on these videos is the people arguing with Cliff are arrogant and that arrogance grows from pride.
It amazes me how many people show up not to debate Cliff but to yell and be mad with the Lord 😂 ironically, it warms my heart because atleast individuals with such passion and anger (like the last lady) are searching for answers and willing to air grievances. Cliff has wonderful patience, God bless him and this channel, I pray he reaches many more ears and minds to help soften the hearts of unbelievers!
That last speaker has been hurt, and something moved her in a direction against Jesus. She wasn't raised that way, and that is fact!
She referred to some of Oprah Winfrey's arguments. Looks like Oprah's "gospel" has spread to the next generation.
Yes, she seemed very hurt. I would love to have seen more of the talk with her to see if she was willing to listen to Cliffe and hear some of his teaching.
@@cynthialewis3785 Agree
It doesn’t matter if she was hurt, it only matters that her argument is correct, you can’t discredit her and say she’s wrong because she’s hurt, that’s not fair
@roscowbrown3937 Hmmm, was she correct?
its amazing to watch cliffe speak :D
God bless Cliffe!
To counter the young black woman's statement that God killed everyone, animals except Noah's family is false. First of all, the animals were allowed into the ark. Secondly, God sent Noah to tell the people what was about to happen and asked them to come into the ark so they won't die, but they refused. So they made the choice.
I honestly don't know how you do this. You have the patience of a saint. The mental gymnastics these kids do to convince themselves that Christians are insane, are infuriating. 12:00 this girl takes the cake.
I Agree 💯
It is impossible to have many truths unless they all agree harmoniously with each other
4:31 It's not often that a rapper is evangelized.
Bruh 😂 😂😂
I came looking for this comment. I was literally typing that “second dude in the red hoodie wanna be a rapper so bad” as your comment popped up lol. S/O to UA-cam for these timestamps
Right?😅
😂😂😂
Keep up the good work Pastor Knechtle!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
I need to see more of that last clip please
They can think my body my choice but have a problem when they think; God thinks my earth my choice.
People don’t understand that God ONLY has the right to take people out of the world because he’s the creator. And death is not final it’s just exit to the other world but you as a human has no right to exit a fellow human and that is called murder. 2 . In war the most casualties are innocents people. That’s to tell us your choice in life has an influence on people.3. God is a God of justice. If he doesn’t judge then he is not fair to victims of crime and evil. Many people want to judge GOD AS if they care so much for man more than GOD.
John 8:24 Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for unless you believe that I am, you will die in your sins.”
its funny , that when he talkes about the chinese people at 15:10, behind him pops out a chinese guy out of nowhere hahah
Lol I peeped that too 😂😂 I was rolling
I am DONEEEEE 😂😂😂😂😂
I think that right saying would be that all Asians look alike
Dawg 😂. What’s the odds lol
i love watching old 90s clips just seen your interview with charlie
The hardened heart doesn't understand scriptures, for the Gospel is foolishness to those who are perishing. That's the Word of God. Tragically, unbelievers tend to talk themselves out of the gift of salvation. They fight to remain in condemnation and subsequently talk or argue themselves right into hell. They are self righteous and think they know what they don't know. I did the same thing with such ease until I had an encounter with Jesus Christ, which radically altered the whole trajectory of my life.
Praise God for saving you and not giving up on you. No one loves you more!
BCM Logo spotted at 14:48. Grateful to have been a part of that ministry!
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I've always wanted to be involved for a long time but the volatility in the price has been very confusing to me. Although I have watched a lot of UA-cam videos about it but I still find it hard to understand
I think cliff is amazing at breaking down Christian religion. I personally witnessed things in my life, only 2 to the honest. I was an atheist, i was an agnostic, I even lent towards Satan the final one Satan was the biggest mistake of mine. But I had one amazing experience that blew my doubts away. Too long to explain. But believe me when it a burning bush thing. It still resonates with me to this day. But I had to go through everything for me to finally see the the truth. It’s very humbling.
30:30 Genesis 6:5 “And GOD saw that the wickedness of the man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” if GOD allowed the antediluvians to keep living there offspring would have been evil “where sin abounded grace did much more abound”
You misspelled their.
Cliff has done a amazing job explaining the way other preacher's
Have twisted the Bible into something that is not true.
Sadly that black girl at the end sounds like my son. I so pray for his soul everyday. Please pray for Chris.
@@sscliche praying for your son, Chris
I pray that your son will experience divine encounter and come to the saving grace of our Lord Jesus Christ. 🙏
Your son is a smart boy then
Amazing video,God Bless ptr.cliffe
What I see over and over is people finding reasons to hang their hat on to reject God. They spend their time finding ways in their own way to make God out to be fake or a monster........but they've never tried to get to know Him and see for themselves.
Yeah they put way more effort into being able to not believe than they put into actually searching for God.
11:59 i was raised to think... no athiest is raised to think. Theyre raised to follow
5:24 , he got that cliff stance 😂
God will have mercy on those who have shown mercy..
Is that kid in the red on something...he can't stop moving around 🤔🥴 well done cliffe love listening to you 😊 thank you ✌️🫶🥰
Yes that kid was on something....it's called college bull-crap.
Is there any more video on the last conversation? I’d like to see how it played out. Thank you for this ministry. GOD Bless!
Ironic how people can say God isn't moral based on a standard of morality that he gave them. He has the right to take an innocent life because he's the only one that can redeem life. Stop thinking God's mind works like yours. He gave life and he can take life, doesn't matter if your time on Earth is 5 years or 100, the righteous and the innocent will spend eternity with him.
Do you believe slayvery is wrong? i do. yet the bible endorses it. read Exd 21. I'd say that makes your god extremely immoral wouldn't you? Thanks.
Well, that may be so long as God does it (kill) himself. There's nothing I can do anyways. But what troubles me is when he commands us to do it for him. Is that also ok or moral or we humans suddenly have the right to kill others now? How do you know it's God commanding you to do so? Can we read his mind? His will? What happens when God commands your pastor or preacher to tell you to do his command to kill others? Would you do it? Would you obey him or disobey him?
Joan of Arc believed she followed God's commands to fight against England, to save the French king etc. she did, but she was prosecuted and burned at the stake later. What gives?
@@tTtt-ho3tqcan you find one people group that God had the Israelites wipe out that was not utterly wicked? Do you know how long God gave them to turn away from their wicked ways before He had them wiped out?
@@Skylerrelyks93
Why waited? He didn't know?
@@tTtt-ho3tq He is patient. Ultimately, I do not know His reasoning for waiting, but it may have had to do with bringing Gibeonites into the culture of the Israelites.
Jesus words is powerful with any words 🙏♥️
The resurrection is proof that Jesus is different than all other religions. It's proof Jesus is who he says he is.
God bless cliff!! Good conversations
9:30 the pride is really making her say this just so she don’t accept shes wrong…
So smart they can't get out of their own way.
Lord help them see
Did I just hear cliffe telepathically say “riiiight” at 15:53?
It was not okay of you to make me laugh that hard xD
I heard it too 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yea you can see the recording rippling from time to time. Not sure the reason but yea that’s a hilarious skip. I didn’t catch that the first time or second. Good eye lol
🤣🤣
Was looking at this comment approximately 10 seconds before it happened. That was funny.
Yeshua said I am the way the Truth and the Life NO ONE COMES 2 THE FATHER BUT THROUGH ME !!! ❤ ✌️
The girl at the end was bugging if she just read Genesis 6 she would known about the nephilim.
I bet she is the first one to cry out abortion is OK... double standards
@@SilverbackItyeah, I bet the doesn’t think women should be forced to have kids they don’t want, and that’s somehow a double-standard, unlike you, who thinks we should force people to become parents when they’re not ready… yeah, you totally have your head on straight
God wants the relationship with you. No middle men, no distractions. Matthew 7:7-8
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
Seek him!
Come on I really wanted to hear the last one why do these always cut😭
And then you can’t find the continuation… sometimes I find it by scouring through the archives looking for videos of Cliff in the same shirt
Some people will grasp that the clock is always ticking and they wind up ever learning and never coming to the knowledge of truth.
Cliffe said something genius at the beginning. "I can not do your homework for you"
Yet week after week, month after month and year after year, atheists show up an this channel and demand that we do exactly that.
Think for yourself atheists, stop outsourcing your reason to others.
You -
Atheists demand we do their homework for them.
Response -
• Atheists, saying: you're full of nonsense, is not them, asking anything from you.
• It's them, saying: you're full of nonsense.
• How does anyone reach the level of stpdty that you have managed to reach.?
You -
Atheists demand we do their homework for them.
Response -
• Atheists, saying: you're full of nonsense, is not them, asking anything from you.
• It's them, saying: you're full of nonsense.
• How does anyone reach the level of absurdity that you have managed to reach.?
That's exactly what they're doing when they go all, "Prove! Prove that your God exists! Where's your proof?"
A lot of it is just BS. They're not looking to be convinced. It's obvious when they keep pulling Hitchen's Razor-esque style moves instead of presenting anything affirmative and insists that they don't have to present anything. Only a small handful of atheists that I've encountered would at least back off and not go that route.
@@jackalsgate1146leaving the comment twice doesnt make you seem right anymore than it did once pal.
Well . . . tell me how Atheists are asking you to do their homework.?
You people have no wisdom to offer.
Mantap gass haleluya haleluya haleluya Yesus Kristus Amen 👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏
The bible was WRITTEN by God
The bible was RECORDED by man.
Simple, distinguishable difference
And somehow, people don't think that a mighty God who created everything could have the power to make certain the texts are not changed or perverted throughout centuries. That's my argument for that. God is all knowing, omnipotent and all powerful..of course he could make sure the bible remained unchanged
Absolutely amazing! Have you thought about putting audio debates on Spotify and other streaming platforms?
It'll be good to hear on a walk or on the way to work.
God bless you
Premiere from 1988. 🤣
The footage might look low quality, but it's stated in the description: Recorded at VCU, Spring 2006. But I suppose you might be just joking. 😅😅
You are off by almost two decades, and it should be easy to tell by the clothes. ;)
We in it while we talk about Jesus Christ
Yes, amen.......
Yeah, amen to the guy who literally said that if there is no God, I would totally be cool with owning humans… amen to the guy who can’t say (it literally doesn’t matter if He exists or not, only a psychopath would justify that)
The guy at 19:43…bro stands there in front of one of the greatest Christian apologists of our time and says “I’m not that familiar with the Bible” while making the argument that the Bible has been interpreted too literally. YIKES
Jesus Christ is king of kings lord of lords
How do you know this?
@@TboneWTF it is written
@@eandj9181 "it is written" LOL. Where? So if i write that Santa Claus is real does that make him real? Good luck my friend.
@justingary5322 "Christ was definitely the most influential and historical non military figure to have lived." I disagree. I can cite numerous historical figures way more interesting important and uncontested than Jesus. Cleopatra is one. Socrates and Plato are another. Leonardo DaVinci is way more important than Jesus. Also: every American president.
@@TboneWTF I’m not forcing anything on you. You asked a question I answered it it’s because you’re not sure yourself which is why you’re looking for an answer that pleases you. Idk if you’re trying to get me to doubt. But that is what you’re probably doing. Doubting and believing. Confusions
When addressing the guy who said Jesus never said He claimed to be God, Jesus told the Pharisees, "If you do not believe in Me, you will die in your sins." He also said, "I am The Way, The Truth The Life, no man comes unto the Father except through Me." He also said, "He who has the Son has life, he who does not have the Son does not have life, but the wrath of God abides on him." Jesus said, "He who has seen Me has seen the Father." He prayed, "Father, give Me the glory that I had with You from the beginning..." Cliffe dropped the ball. But his heart is in the right place.
In Cliffe's newer debates/discussions he points out the reason Jews sought to stone him in John 8 and John 10:33. He makes clear that Jesus claimed to be God and that's why He was killed. Just sharing as this is an older vid. 🤗
I agree that he dropped the ball; I do get aggravated when there are so many things he could have said but didn't.
Why is the second guy break dancing?
If you ask question with right attitude you will find it but if you ask any question with wrong attitude you will not find it up to your expectations
What exactly is the "right attitude"?
@@TheoSkeptomai honestly if you want to know something then you will know it something
@user-sg5ju5mz7i So, again, what is the "right attitude"?
@@khumongK I want to know if any god exists in reality. I haven't found an answer. Care to explain?
@@TheoSkeptomai wanted to know right or true one I mean
"How is God going to send His children to Hell?"
He's not. God's children will be in Heaven.
Mankind wants to have his cake and eat it too. Jesus Christ says” But who ever denies Me before men, him I will also deny before My Father who is in heaven.” Matthew 10:33.
@@gingercake0907 Correct. There will be more people in Hell than in Heaven. But none of God's children will be among those sent to Hell.
I give God,Lord Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit each all the praises.
I think you can "logically" prove God. Creation is one of those logical arguments. So is life. It's just that people don't want to accept those arguments.
It's just that we know exactly which fallacies you're using
@@spooky6902 Which is none, since there are no fallacies when it comes to Creation and life. Try again.
@@spacecoastz4026 argument from ignorance, incredulity, and analogy. There are three
@@spooky6902 You can tell that to God during your eternal judgement.
@spacecoastz4026 sure, if that happens I'll tell him I couldn't make myself accept an argument that was demonstrably fallacious
The faith is doing unto others like how you treat yourself. That should be it...but some sins are greater than others
I'm inspired.
Please spill some sugar about the bi-weekly stuff you mentioned.
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John14:6 Jesus said, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” John 3:5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.” We can't get to heaven by works, because God doesn't pick favorites.
What I now know as a Christian with the Holy Spirit is that it’s NOT ME WHO LIVES it’s Christ within me he has my body and ownership over me, my flesh fights it and my spirit ultimately wins over my flesh, I have seen God work my heart to soften and take my hand and show me where to go to find him. Its not about your mind, God will show you if you simply ask even if you don’t yet believe:-)
If I interpret Scripture in a way that justifies, say, same-sex marriage, who has the authority to tell me I'm wrong? And I don't mean wrong in a subjective sense. What authority exists to tell me I am objectively wrong?
@@brotherdamien1804 every person has the authority to tell you you're wrong.
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that this is not what the Bible has done. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
@@saintpaulofyoutube4416 Let me ask--do you think one of God's reasons for providing us with the Bible is to unite all His children in love and truth in imitation of the Trinity? Of course. I think we all believe that. The problem is that the Bible has done the opposite. Instead of uniting God's children in Truth, it has divided us because, as you said, "every person has the authority" to say whose interpretation is right and wrong. Do you think this is how God planned it? Or did Jesus give authority to the Church as it is written in Mt 16: 18-19, where it says "And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.” Is this not Jesus founding a Church and giving it authority? Maybe. What do you think?
'Innocent people are being swept away' and that's fine as they're neither robbed something invaluably good, nor swept out of the hands of the allmighty!..
You might rather argue that God did them a great favor for now they're with him! Gods judgement is just.
And he's power over heaven and hell!
God was manifested in the flesh, and Jesus is fullness of the Godhead bodily.
Yes he is
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We can never understand the reasons to the full extent of why things happen, only God knows, that is why we must put our trust in God. It is far beyond our abilities.