A wise hunter understands that predators are necessary for healthy prey animals. If we had more wolves there wouldn't be as many diseases in deer or other animals. We removed the predators and the animal balance is off.
The discussion between 9-10 minutes about private land ownership and corner crossings really hits home for me. I live in Western Colorado where a trophy elk unit is literally in my neighborhood; it is mostly private land and much of the public BLM land within the unit is locked in by private lands. As Joe mentions, the public cannot access this land without trespassing, and permission to trespass is rarely to never given. The land owners stand to make a lot of money selling landowner hunting tags and many of them also run guide services. I have seen them (the outfitting service) advertise "1000 acres of private land with access to even more public land that is inaccessible to the public". The private holdings are created so as to intentionally preclude access to even more public lands so these landowners have nearly exclusive hunting rights to public lands enclosed by their private holdings, without needing to purchase that land. As a 20 yr Colorado resident and hunter, I can barely draw a hunting license in desired units, and the accessible public land is so overcrowded with hunters, it's not even fun anymore. And it gets worse. When you look at the land ownership in the unit I speak of, most of it seems owned by out of state LLC corporations, whose true ownership is virtually impossible to trace. I couldn't even easily ask for permission to trespass if I wanted; who do I ask? Colorado government in concert with Colorado Parks and Wildlife need to stop chasing the money and give hunting back to its residents. They can start by drastically limiting the number of private land hunting tags to landowners who are not Colorado residents, and create a scheme by which out of state landowners are forced to create easements through their property to public lands. AS always, the power and the rights are with the wealthy. My neighbor a blue collar middle income earner was born and raised here in our community. He no longer hunts due to his disgust with the current system.
some hunters are scumbags and kill cows leave trash and gut piles causing bears to come on your land and use your imagination of the stupid things people do when there not being supervised . thats why old guys with a big ranch don't want to put up with the idiots. there's the reason stupid people!
The way I understood the law in Idaho a private landowner can restrict hunting on their property but If they do they cant hunt on their property. I may be wrong or it may have changed but this seemed like a great idea to me.
It’s simply really; us farmers really care about we own and what we manage. Especially land that is native growth. I’m a mad keen hunter and am welcome everywhere…because I’m a farmer. Australia
I remember her doing another podcast, and all the animal "welfare" groups said she has no idea what she was talking about. Like what, she literally wrote the book on wolf reintroduction.😅
To be fair, she is pretty clueless about the real nature of the conflict at hand. Just because she wrote a book about what she thinks doesn't make her a great thinker or rich with knowledge.
@dhand34 ya exactly, for instance, she references the gardener elk herd and how the people of the town would go out and shoot a bunch of elk from the wintering grounds.... as if that was somehow a bad thing. The residents relied on that meat for the winter, and that was taken from them by the wolves. Now, instead of those people getting the elk meat the wolves do, and the residents have to apply for a permit to hope to get a chance to get an elk. Now you can argue that it's better that wolves get elk meat and people do not... but to act like it's universally better that people no longer have access to protein out, their door is so ridiculous.
2:38 I like how she takes full ownership of what she was participating in, despite the fact that Joe absolve her with the "only following orders" line.
Wolves go from being apex predators to something almost sacred once we give them human names like "Jake" or "Jericho." Suddenly, the ethical lines blur, and we hesitate to manage them the way we might if they were just "9007." This anthropomorphization-while heartwarming-shows how we impose our values onto wild creatures, creating a deeper emotional conflict. The wolves don't care about our names, but we do, because it allows us to relate, empathize, and make judgments based on emotional connection rather than ecological reality.
@CraigBuckton-o3q Disney films are based on older tales such as Grimm's fairy tales for Snow White, Robin Hood for Robin Hood, and an old German book for Bambi.
Great video!! I would love to be a guest on your show to talk about racing pigeons. I have pigeons that flew back to my home in Los Angeles from San Francisco, and even one that returned all the way from Arizona to Los Angeles. They are truly incredible animals.
There’s a big difference between having a healthy reasonable population of wolves and adding wolves to areas that nature has already determined there should be fewer or none.
@@Homeless-mma well people built roads cities sub divisions that doesn’t exactly support the ecosystem of old. You could say the same about buffalo but people in New York would be pretty upset about road jams from natural population sizes of buffalo
Why can’t they just let wolves reach an area naturally? I mean I get planes like Yellowstone, but how about just waiting five fucking minutes and let them do their thing? Here in Italy wolves had essentially recolonized Italy from scratch with minimal protection, if one of the most urbanized country in Europe has wolves repopulate almost the entirety of its country like that, I’m pretty sure the US can do it!
@@caiusKeys same reason tasmanian tiger is extinct literally greedy ranchers couldnt bare a wild predator that every now and then preyed on sheep government and ranchers killed em all that's what happened to wolves and grizzly bears in North America
I believe her when she says they are expanding. I live in the northeast part of Iowa and we get a couple 2-3 wolf sightings every year. They found a dead gray wolf laying in the median of I-80 earlier this year in Scott county iowa.
I am in Oregon. A black wolf was spotted on a hay pivot a half mile down the road. Our cattle, pastured about 12-15 miles from that pivot, are very much within a wolf's circle. When the yearling calves were brought in a month ago, there was a very foul smell. Turns out a heifer was chewed up extremely bad. ODFW came out and declared it a wolf attack. We will be compensated for it. We are good with that. The problem is when this collared wolf was reported ODFW, they had no clue about it or it's whereabouts. Rogan, invite a rancher on now.
I'm from Oregon as well. I couldn't agree with you more. Or better yet, release a wolf pack in Forest Park up in Portland. We will see how much they love wolves then.
IF, you were educated, you would know that Donkeys, are what you need. Any self respecting wolf will NOT mess with a donkey. I grew up in Kansas. All cattle ranchers I knew, had a bunch of donkeys around to protect the livestock.
@@hartlessteve03because otherwise the ranchers will exterminate the wolves with or without government permission? If they’re losing cows and not being compensated what’s stopping them from stuffing roadkill full of rat poison and leaving it out there?
As a fifth generation western rockies cattleman, we name all the beef we plan on finishing for the freezer, had one steer named burger King, last two I had processed at my local butcher was named prime and rib were both finished and butchered, had a heifer lost a calf and became b.b.q. her name was marina, steer named granite and Bruno. It doesn't matter my kids and grandkids are raised on idaho state fair blue ribbon homegrown beef, I have been into embryo and artificial insemination for decades. My family and friends refuse to cook any other beef.
Yep…certainly not winter die off where I hunt just south of the Panhandle. I use to roll my eyes when folks told me the wolfs moved into our area. (Outsiders that can’t tell the difference between a coyote and wolf) This year is the first year I have seen their scat. Guess the jokes on me 😅 shit
I know ranchers and hunters in Idaho. They all think the reintroduction was a huge mistake. Idaho Fish and game underestimates wolf numbers in a big way. They are also not honest about where they’re being found.
What problems are the wolves causing? Are they hurting humans? Are the ranchers not compensated fairly for a lost calf? Is it possible the hate has become political?
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One reason elk have moved to private land IS because of predators. So they see these big herds of elk on a ranch and say we have way too many elk. But there are 10s of thousands of acres of public land (a lot of wilderness areas) that are completely missing game animals. Just spend 5 days in a wilderness area and saw 0 elk
Try having Black Berries on. your land and people crawling through the fence to get your berries. They do not care they harm the fence, which can let cows on the road, and take something that is not theirs. I get why people do not allow people to cross their land. Most will be respectful but sadly a large group will not.
I’m lucky that the farmer moves the sheep and leaves the gate unlocked to his blackberries, i cut back the big stalks that can hook the sheep, for that i can get the biggest ones left untouched from the rest of the bush. Sorry to hear careless people damage your stuff.
Have the same issue w/ blueberries at our vacation home. They roll around in minivans w/ the doors open so they can run in and run out. I may or may not have fixed this problem this year. Next year will be interesting because I have a feeling it will be different people they don’t know what happened the previous year.
@@Bob_Smith19 “vacation home” how many acres is that? Are they going close to your vacation home, and how if so how close is close? Were you even planning to pick the berries they picked? Yes people shouldn’t damage your fence; but if your answer is no to those questions stop being an ass, and let people have access to the earth, maybe you’ll make some good friends.
Wolves are spiritual so beautiful.. watching them we can learn a lot .. one example is how the leader of the pack is also THE LAST… so he knows none is left behind.. nature has so many answers humans could and should learn from .. but everyone is worried about the wrong things in life .. anyways they are beautiful animals
lmao. tell that to the moose in Alaska they kill just "teaching" the youngsters, pilots often see an adult moose dead on the ground every 5 or 6 miles, not a single thing eaten. Stop inserting Disney themes into real life.
They are awesome animals. However as a for instance someone above wrote how one of their cows stunk and they started looking and it had beet attacked by wolves and obviously the flesh was rotting. That's because wolves will often run their prey to exhaustion and eat it while it is still alive. Take the good with the bad. That is nature and it is their way. : Now my concern is that people who do not have to live with this sort of experience are allowed to decide what animals should and should not be where they do not live. It isn't an easy question to answer but for instance people in New York have no business or right to tell people in Montana how to live. If folks in Montana don't want wolves then their wishes should be respected same as folks in new york don't want certain things done where they live. And montana people should not be allowed to tell them how to live.
Over population of elk??? How many hunters put in for elk tags to hunt that get turned down each year…. Fact, reintroduced wolves in areas that now have roads/houses/human infrastructure restricts the ungulate habitat. Enables wolves to prey on them with incredible efficiency.
Not taking any sides here but I find it interesting that human beings have found themselves in a position to decide how other species should exist. Think about that for a moment. It's just weird.
@@Dman-c5c Of course. I just find it interesting that out of all the different lifeforms that exist, human beings are the only ones we know of that have evolved focused on intellect to the point where we can decide the fate of other organisms on a planetary scale. It just boggles the mind when you think about it in those terms lol
Humans are the ONLY species that destroys itself as well as eveything in our habitat. We are a parasite and not the smartest or most capable by a long shot. Take away guns, electricity, running water THEN see how well humans do as a species. Tech does not us superior.
I lived on a big ranch in the Paradise Valley in Montana in the 90’s that bordered the park. Beef. At that time the pack was small and didn’t travel out of the park much. We only had two heifers killed by the wolves. The gov paid us fair market value at the time. It’s a love hate relationship. So much tourism comes from the wolves. Early 2000’s we ran guided tours along our boundary we would see the wolves . That paid our barely breaking even ranch very well.
My mom is native and raised me on importance of nature as a whole, animals all have their place and reason, wolves are vital in keeping deer, elk and other mammals from overpopulating also many native tribes have wolf symbols some even have a wolf dance, wolves are amazing creatures and are also symbols of strength, loyalty and wisdom, they are similar to us humans in social structure they are family bound animals who raise their pups until they’ve grown to start their own pack they also teach their pups the ways, alpha males/females have equal role and work together to achieve their goals whether this is to protect their territory or while on the hunt, truly remarkable animals
Hunters can stop animals from overpopulating too if the state game board issues more tags. In states with a strong hunting culture you really don’t need all the same natural large predators.
Yeah, there should be legally mandated easements along a few properties to provide access to public land, and if nobody allows it then it should be taken by eminent domain. Public land should be accessible
I had no idea she existed. When I saw the thumbnail I wasn't going to click on it but then I saw the word wolf and now I'm glad cuz this lady is awesome.
Northern Mn has many thousands more wolves than when she worked in northhome Mn. Our deer herds are fractions of what they were 20 years ago. Our moose are just about gone. Very sad. I would love to hear her opinion on northern Mn now.
The corner crossing thing is more than hunting. When you have a checkerboard and you buy every piece of private in the checkerboard, you cut off legal access to the public and you can act like the public land is yours. You effectively double your acreage and a lot of the value in a set of land holdings in a checkerboard is public land that is locked up by the private around it. The problem is the government, in their infinite wisdom made every other parcel private, so all the "black" squares are private and all the "red" squares are public.
No, she is not an expert. She is an educated idiot who unknowingly works for the Livestock Insurance industry. As a Wildlife Biologist she denies Mankind is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth. Man not only is part of the Natural Wildlife but also the Apex Predator.
@@427max This Wildlife Biologists denies Mankind is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth. Man is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth and the Apex Predator. Congress should restore Tribal Treaty Hunting Rights in Yellowstone Park and eliminate Protections for man-killing Man-eating Gray Wolves.
Great Job Diane Boyd : The only thing is The Timber Wolf was always present in the Kelly Lake / Kelly Creek Drainage of the Clearwater of Idaho… your heralded introduction of the mass of packs Canadian Wolf was over Kill…!
Interesting and I agree with some/most of what she is saying. However, I disagree that wolves don't have a significant impact on deer populations. Michigan's Upper Peninsula has Mid and Northern regions that have had dramatic declines in deer population directly corresponding to increased wolf population. The same is true in North Central and NW Wisconsin. In the UP hunters who used to see 4-6 deer per day now frequently go a week or more without seeing a single deer. It is causing the closure / sales of many great traditional deer camps and it has a huge detrimental impact on hunter recruitment.
But wolves are all mystical and spiritual and cool and they only take what they need and they are noble conservationists and muh biased research paper though!!!!
😂😂 as a wolf population grows game declines. What don’t you understand about that the only way you keep a wolf in check is to have another Apex predator such as a cougar or a bear so if you re-introduce cougars, bears and wolves, they will maintain a balance if you only bring back one of them, they will be out of balance in short order. This is the dumbest goddamn argument I’ve ever heard of. I know far too many ranchers in Montana in Wyoming dealing with these fucking issues right now, so that yuppies from California can feel like they’re saving the fucking world.
Or come to southern wisconsin, where theyre are less than a dozen wolves in total, even up near michigans, your lucky to see a wolf . So your either from the east or your part of the problem
People who hunt northern WI have more patience than me, that is for sure. Guys will hunt sun up to dark the whole 9 day gun season and see a couple does at best (no doe tags). Hunters up there need to head to central WI….tons of deer there. Also, bears eat a huge number of deer fawns, and there’s always been more bears than DNR admits. Bears eating elk calves is the reason the elk reintroduction hasn’t produced much.
As this point was already made in the video. Don’t stop at the wolves. Look at the snow fall and lack of ag fields. Important reasons that lead to fewer deer in northern MN
I live in northern MN, used to see lots of deer, they all but disappeared. One evening I was sitting in a lawn chair and a doe came flying out of the woods woods, 30 seconds later a wolf came out of the same spot. Explains why I very seldom see deer around here anymore
Wolves aren’t spirit animals and they’re not evil. They’re wolves and they do what wolves do. Colorado made it tough by making it a ballot issue when they were moving down from Wyoming on their own.
Joe what does the land owner do when a hunter gets hurt on one of these pathways on your property? I get it but i think lines should be off limits unless permission is given.
The solution to land locked public land is a a forced path like Joe said. The government pays to fence a 20’ wide pathway along the edge of their land to the public land. If you as a hunter leave the fenced path, trespassing charge.
I was raised in a hunting family, and there were at least 3 cardinal rules: poaching is reprehensible, don't drink and hunt, and if you don't have a clean shot, don't take a chance on it and wind up with a gut-shot deer. My Grandpa, and larer my uncles, had almost a 2000 acre farm with lots of woods, plenty of extended family would hunt there, but you had better follow the rules. And we will turn poachers in.
What you don’t understand, Joe is we have the exact situation up where we have our ranch and as soon as you open up that little pathway that goes through your private property to the public land, you’ll get these public hunters that ruin it for everybody because on the way through your private ranch, they’re gonna see all these animals because it is a private ranch and they’re gonna start poaching and they’re gonna start shooting them from your access road or hunting from your access road and poaching once I go to that public land and don’t see anything or unsuccessful and then they go through your private ranch and it’s way easier so poaching is what’s keeping these people from giving access roads
I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan. We have not had hard winters in the past 8 years, and the wolves have %100 percent decimated the deer population. The difference in the places discussed in this JRE segment and Michigan is that the wolves aren’t managed here. It has ruined the fall economy that was centered around hunting public lands.
There shouldn’t be 50,000 acre ranches where people “grow deer” or “grow elk” they’re wild animals and belong to the State, there should be more accessible public hunting lands and keeping public lands inaccessible for public use should be an automatic fine; ESPECIALLY when you’re selling access to the State owned property
Insane situation happening in Canada right now. Excessive linear disturbances (mostly ATV and logging trails) have made it exceptionally easy for wolves to hunt Caribou. Between rapidly exploding wolf populations as a result, and chronic wasting disease in the caribou, they're learning to being endangered. Instead of functionally restoring these linear features (which would involve very simple felling of trees to make the path difficult for wolves to traverse), Trudeau in his infinite wisdom has hired US companies to shoot wolves from helicopters (rather than the local Indigenous groups who have offered to assist). Absolutely insane.
It’s because they don’t let people hunt like they used too in the northeast, and the newer generation has less and less hunters every year so we aren’t keeping up like we used to.
She is purposely not discussing northern WI, MI, and MN where the wolves have devastated most of the wildlife up there. They are also eating people's dogs for crying out loud. Wolves are starting to eat each other because of starvation. Wolf paws have been found in wolf poop. Yes weather is the biggest affect on herds but wolves keep it from coming back.
That's not true. In fact wolves have helped bring back important trees and brush that were previously over eaten which has helped herbivore populations in areas where wolves are now. And, they do not over hunt like you're claiming. If they are as big of a problem as you're claiming then why were they here before us? Why were things normal and healthy back then when they were thriving if they are oh so terrible? If they are eating people's dogs then maybe those people need to be more responsible with their animals. I'm a farmer and haven't lost any livestock or pets to predators. Those dogs could also be killed by coyotes, mountain lions, or bears. Big deal. They were here first not you or the dogs and they belong here. It's scientifically proven that you are wrong do any amount of research and you'll see that. Wolves are a keystone species to the United States and it was a tragedy when they were gone. Trees stopped growing, elk and other cervids began breeding terrible traits that no longer were being removed by wolves, and we saw a giant spike in coyote populations which THEY like to actually attack dogs, people, and livestock way more often than wolves. Coyotes are less fearful of humans than wolves.
@@swiftclawtheshadowpup808 You are wrong about forests. Without human involvement all forests would have overly mature trees this preventing any understory from developing. Llightning, insects, and tornadoes are the only way to kill these mature forests. Wolves have nothing to do with it. Wolves are attacking more people, which is happening in northern WI. Just last month a group of teenagers duck hunting were encircled by a pack of wolves. They were not out in "the boonies". It was in a massive community overrun by retirees. That means they are starving. You are straw manning me by assuming that everything was normal back in the day. You would have to walk around the forest, personally, 150-200 + years ago to truly see what wildlife was like then. What streams flowed where, what trees grew where and how many, etc. and how healthy wildlife was. If the timber wolves are properly fed then why are they pushing more southern every year? Why is it that trail cameras used to see squirrels, rabbits, raccoons, skunks, bears, deer, etc., but now a hundred photos will have 70% wolves or greater? WI government have spent around 3 million dollars in lost cattle in the last ten years due to wolves. Democrat senator Tammy Baldwin introduced a bill to Congress to delist the timber wolves. This is a bipartisan problem. In regards to pets, if the wolves were so well fed, then why do wolves feel the NEED to eat dogs off people's backyard? Golden retrievers, not poodles. No coyotes don't eat a regular sized dog. I live in coyote country and that is not a thing. Wolves are found all around the world. What exactly makes them a keystone in the US? All that needs to happen is a quota or a season. The states can make money on the side and manage wolves like any other animal. It's a win win. Being "here first" doesn't legitimize anything. You are appealing to authority. With that logical you would have to give your land back to the wolves and leave your farm. I hunt coyotes and they are definitely afraid of humans and can evade us with ease.
@@Carma123 not in my location. Elk herd has become stagnant since the introduction of wolves and the whitetail has dropped so much that people are selling their hunting land and permits sold are dropping faster than they should be. The packs are slowly moving south and where they move too they devastate those animals. All that needs to happen is a quota or season. It's the best of both worlds.
There is an access problem in these areas where tags numbers are unlimited. Property owners who would like fewer elk also don’t want hunters or want a prohibitive access fee.
The French have a version of a shepherd dog which is an equivalent of an MMA fighter dog that fights off the wolves. I don’t see why American ranchers can’t do what the European ranchers do. I mean the arm the dogs with spiked collars to give them the upper hand
I tend to think of human hunting as a great substitute for non-human predation. With the amount of human hunting nowadays, I tend to think we get to choose between wolves and human predation at a comparable rate to what we have now. A compromise us our other option
Hunting is where I learned some farmers see hunting as murder… growing up, I’ve always assumed farmers and hunters were cut from the same cloth. That is not the case!
In scotland we have "right to roam". This means we have the freedom to access any natural feautures, regardless of it is private land or not. There is a code of conduct for this, and in general, pride and responsibility from most. We can even camp almost anywhere rural. It works great.
In the full podcast, she basically tells Joe that his yellow journalism wolf stories are bunk, including the super packs. He should have more guests who are real experts and debunk BS like Dr Boyd does. Guest who spread conspiracy theories and myths get more views though. No Joe her experience is a lifetime of wolf biology, along side of a phd in biology.
Almost every community in Canada had a Rod & Gun club , bk in the day, not sure but I don't think many exist anymore ? Not sure why. It tought proper hunting and fishing ethics,
I like that not only is she a wolf expert, she is also a fellow hunter, so she can come at the wolf issue from both sides. Very good podcast
A wise hunter understands that predators are necessary for healthy prey animals. If we had more wolves there wouldn't be as many diseases in deer or other animals. We removed the predators and the animal balance is off.
Listen to the whole thing and all the BS she debunks
My grandfather let me name 1 cow when I was a kid. She was never sold but he didn’t let it happen again.
Where is Trump?
We had a cow named burger. Burger was yummy.
Yup. You don't eat the livestock with namess. I had to stop my weeun from naming the chickens for this reason.
@@That0Homeless0Guyweeun 😅 keep the language alive.
all my cows are named Burger King
The discussion between 9-10 minutes about private land ownership and corner crossings really hits home for me. I live in Western Colorado where a trophy elk unit is literally in my neighborhood; it is mostly private land and much of the public BLM land within the unit is locked in by private lands. As Joe mentions, the public cannot access this land without trespassing, and permission to trespass is rarely to never given. The land owners stand to make a lot of money selling landowner hunting tags and many of them also run guide services. I have seen them (the outfitting service) advertise "1000 acres of private land with access to even more public land that is inaccessible to the public". The private holdings are created so as to intentionally preclude access to even more public lands so these landowners have nearly exclusive hunting rights to public lands enclosed by their private holdings, without needing to purchase that land. As a 20 yr Colorado resident and hunter, I can barely draw a hunting license in desired units, and the accessible public land is so overcrowded with hunters, it's not even fun anymore. And it gets worse. When you look at the land ownership in the unit I speak of, most of it seems owned by out of state LLC corporations, whose true ownership is virtually impossible to trace. I couldn't even easily ask for permission to trespass if I wanted; who do I ask? Colorado government in concert with Colorado Parks and Wildlife need to stop chasing the money and give hunting back to its residents. They can start by drastically limiting the number of private land hunting tags to landowners who are not Colorado residents, and create a scheme by which out of state landowners are forced to create easements through their property to public lands. AS always, the power and the rights are with the wealthy. My neighbor a blue collar middle income earner was born and raised here in our community. He no longer hunts due to his disgust with the current system.
some hunters are scumbags and kill cows leave trash and gut piles causing bears to come on your land and use your imagination of the stupid things people do when there not being supervised . thats why old guys with a big ranch don't want to put up with the idiots. there's the reason stupid people!
The way I understood the law in Idaho a private landowner can restrict hunting on their property but If they do they cant hunt on their property. I may be wrong or it may have changed but this seemed like a great idea to me.
I live in gunnison county and have seen coyote/wolf hybrids already here
It's never been about fun for me or my family it's about our meat .
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As a hunter I always respected the land owners. If they said don't do t go there or don't do something I didn't. It all down to RESPECT.
Unfortunately you are in a minority. As a landowner I sometimes get disrespected to my face.
Joe knows all about private land hunting
Literally his bread & butter 😂
Because Rogan goes on private land that i stocked.
Hey, those private land Elk are actually more wild than public land elk.
@@kyles8358how
It’s simply really; us farmers really care about we own and what we manage. Especially land that is native growth.
I’m a mad keen hunter and am welcome everywhere…because I’m a farmer. Australia
Fantastic interview..
So nice to see an experts detailed explanation on camera. So fascinating.
I remember her doing another podcast, and all the animal "welfare" groups said she has no idea what she was talking about. Like what, she literally wrote the book on wolf reintroduction.😅
Modern Woman 🤷♂️😝☕️
To be fair, she is pretty clueless about the real nature of the conflict at hand. Just because she wrote a book about what she thinks doesn't make her a great thinker or rich with knowledge.
She knows wolves but not psychology or anthropology. She gets off track thinking she knows how some subcultures think
@dhand34 ya exactly, for instance, she references the gardener elk herd and how the people of the town would go out and shoot a bunch of elk from the wintering grounds.... as if that was somehow a bad thing. The residents relied on that meat for the winter, and that was taken from them by the wolves. Now, instead of those people getting the elk meat the wolves do, and the residents have to apply for a permit to hope to get a chance to get an elk. Now you can argue that it's better that wolves get elk meat and people do not... but to act like it's universally better that people no longer have access to protein out, their door is so ridiculous.
@@lukevanlanen8828 if you listen the whole podcast she explains why your comment is just plain stupid
2:38 I like how she takes full ownership of what she was participating in, despite the fact that Joe absolve her with the "only following orders" line.
judgmentcallpodcast covers this. ane Boyd discusses wolves reintroduction.
Wolves go from being apex predators to something almost sacred once we give them human names like "Jake" or "Jericho." Suddenly, the ethical lines blur, and we hesitate to manage them the way we might if they were just "9007." This anthropomorphization-while heartwarming-shows how we impose our values onto wild creatures, creating a deeper emotional conflict. The wolves don't care about our names, but we do, because it allows us to relate, empathize, and make judgments based on emotional connection rather than ecological reality.
I blame Disney
@CraigBuckton-o3q Disney films are based on older tales such as Grimm's fairy tales for Snow White, Robin Hood for Robin Hood, and an old German book for Bambi.
Thank you ChatGPT!
The history of "management" is more like the history of ignorance, incompetence, and destruction.
I have land in wolf country. I'd prefer to get rid of my neighbors' cows that trespass and trash my land.
Great video!! I would love to be a guest on your show to talk about racing pigeons. I have pigeons that flew back to my home in Los Angeles from San Francisco, and even one that returned all the way from Arizona to Los Angeles. They are truly incredible animals.
There’s a big difference between having a healthy reasonable population of wolves and adding wolves to areas that nature has already determined there should be fewer or none.
Uhh tye fish only reason wolves aren't in all of North America is because people killed them all due to greed
@@Homeless-mma well people built roads cities sub divisions that doesn’t exactly support the ecosystem of old. You could say the same about buffalo but people in New York would be pretty upset about road jams from natural population sizes of buffalo
Why can’t they just let wolves reach an area naturally? I mean I get planes like Yellowstone, but how about just waiting five fucking minutes and let them do their thing?
Here in Italy wolves had essentially recolonized Italy from scratch with minimal protection, if one of the most urbanized country in Europe has wolves repopulate almost the entirety of its country like that, I’m pretty sure the US can do it!
@@Homeless-mma Ignorance and greed, which go together like trouble and love
@@caiusKeys same reason tasmanian tiger is extinct literally greedy ranchers couldnt bare a wild predator that every now and then preyed on sheep government and ranchers killed em all that's what happened to wolves and grizzly bears in North America
More of topics related to hunting, farming, ecology plz!
I believe her when she says they are expanding. I live in the northeast part of Iowa and we get a couple 2-3 wolf sightings every year. They found a dead gray wolf laying in the median of I-80 earlier this year in Scott county iowa.
Yep there are waaay more wolves in WI than the "experts" will admit to
I am in Oregon. A black wolf was spotted on a hay pivot a half mile down the road. Our cattle, pastured about 12-15 miles from that pivot, are very much within a wolf's circle. When the yearling calves were brought in a month ago, there was a very foul smell. Turns out a heifer was chewed up extremely bad. ODFW came out and declared it a wolf attack. We will be compensated for it. We are good with that. The problem is when this collared wolf was reported ODFW, they had no clue about it or it's whereabouts.
Rogan, invite a rancher on now.
Nah, boring
I'm from Oregon as well. I couldn't agree with you more. Or better yet, release a wolf pack in Forest Park up in Portland. We will see how much they love wolves then.
IF, you were educated, you would know that Donkeys, are what you need. Any self respecting wolf will NOT mess with a donkey. I grew up in Kansas. All cattle ranchers I knew, had a bunch of donkeys around to protect the livestock.
Why should you be compensated for something that happens naturally. What a waste of taxpayer money. You should be ashamed.
@@hartlessteve03because otherwise the ranchers will exterminate the wolves with or without government permission? If they’re losing cows and not being compensated what’s stopping them from stuffing roadkill full of rat poison and leaving it out there?
much better than interviewing politicians
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This is what I like the most on this podcast.
Everything fits here.
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Speaking of wolves
As a fifth generation western rockies cattleman, we name all the beef we plan on finishing for the freezer, had one steer named burger King, last two I had processed at my local butcher was named prime and rib were both finished and butchered, had a heifer lost a calf and became b.b.q. her name was marina, steer named granite and Bruno. It doesn't matter my kids and grandkids are raised on idaho state fair blue ribbon homegrown beef, I have been into embryo and artificial insemination for decades. My family and friends refuse to cook any other beef.
"Nerver cry wolf"
Its a film and is on UA-cam. Brilliant film, give it a watch.
The book is better. He proved wolves weren't responsible for the dwindling caribou population back then, but this debate continues on.
Just look how quickly we in Idaho reintroduced hunting and depredation for wolves after bringing Canadian wolves here.
Yep…certainly not winter die off where I hunt just south of the Panhandle. I use to roll my eyes when folks told me the wolfs moved into our area. (Outsiders that can’t tell the difference between a coyote and wolf) This year is the first year I have seen their scat. Guess the jokes on me 😅 shit
I know ranchers and hunters in Idaho. They all think the reintroduction was a huge mistake. Idaho Fish and game underestimates wolf numbers in a big way. They are also not honest about where they’re being found.
I remember seeing a bumper sticker “Smoke a pack a day”
@@joearceneaux9854 I saw that one at a cafe in Cascade on hiway 55. Another one said wolves: shoot, shovel, shut up. We really hate them in Idaho
What problems are the wolves causing? Are they hurting humans? Are the ranchers not compensated fairly for a lost calf? Is it possible the hate has become political?
This is the kind of stuff I geek out over, what an interesting lady.
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One reason elk have moved to private land IS because of predators. So they see these big herds of elk on a ranch and say we have way too many elk. But there are 10s of thousands of acres of public land (a lot of wilderness areas) that are completely missing game animals. Just spend 5 days in a wilderness area and saw 0 elk
Try having Black Berries on. your land and people crawling through the fence to get your berries. They do not care they harm the fence, which can let cows on the road, and take something that is not theirs. I get why people do not allow people to cross their land. Most will be respectful but sadly a large group will not.
I’m lucky that the farmer moves the sheep and leaves the gate unlocked to his blackberries, i cut back the big stalks that can hook the sheep, for that i can get the biggest ones left untouched from the rest of the bush.
Sorry to hear careless people damage your stuff.
Have the same issue w/ blueberries at our vacation home. They roll around in minivans w/ the doors open so they can run in and run out. I may or may not have fixed this problem this year. Next year will be interesting because I have a feeling it will be different people they don’t know what happened the previous year.
@@Bob_Smith19i have to know... what did you do to fix it?
@@Bob_Smith19 “vacation home” how many acres is that? Are they going close to your vacation home, and how if so how close is close? Were you even planning to pick the berries they picked? Yes people shouldn’t damage your fence; but if your answer is no to those questions stop being an ass, and let people have access to the earth, maybe you’ll make some good friends.
Agreed
Love this conversation .....Very necessary
Wolves are spiritual so beautiful.. watching them we can learn a lot .. one example is how the leader of the pack is also THE LAST… so he knows none is left behind.. nature has so many answers humans could and should learn from .. but everyone is worried about the wrong things in life .. anyways they are beautiful animals
lmao. tell that to the moose in Alaska they kill just "teaching" the youngsters, pilots often see an adult moose dead on the ground every 5 or 6 miles, not a single thing eaten. Stop inserting Disney themes into real life.
They are awesome animals. However as a for instance someone above wrote how one of their cows stunk and they started looking and it had beet attacked by wolves and obviously the flesh was rotting. That's because wolves will often run their prey to exhaustion and eat it while it is still alive. Take the good with the bad. That is nature and it is their way. : Now my concern is that people who do not have to live with this sort of experience are allowed to decide what animals should and should not be where they do not live. It isn't an easy question to answer but for instance people in New York have no business or right to tell people in Montana how to live. If folks in Montana don't want wolves then their wishes should be respected same as folks in new york don't want certain things done where they live. And montana people should not be allowed to tell them how to live.
Great conversation!
Over population of elk???
How many hunters put in for elk tags to hunt that get turned down each year….
Fact, reintroduced wolves in areas that now have roads/houses/human infrastructure restricts the ungulate habitat. Enables wolves to prey on them with incredible efficiency.
No one cares you are a sub human
I think you’re kind of conflating different things. There are many Arbitrary reasons, for hunting laws and tag numbers.
Yep. all the roads and trails made wolf superhighways.
@@repetemyname842 that applies to all animals lol
Yeah but not 10000 to 35 wolves.
Not taking any sides here but I find it interesting that human beings have found themselves in a position to decide how other species should exist. Think about that for a moment. It's just weird.
Cos we are smarter than any other animal, why would we let them decide whether or not something they do effects us negatively.
If there was another species out there smarter than us I bet they’d do to us what we do to animals. Not saying it’s wrong or right it’s just reality
@@Dman-c5c Of course. I just find it interesting that out of all the different lifeforms that exist, human beings are the only ones we know of that have evolved focused on intellect to the point where we can decide the fate of other organisms on a planetary scale. It just boggles the mind when you think about it in those terms lol
Humans are the ONLY species that destroys itself as well as eveything in our habitat.
We are a parasite and not the smartest or most capable by a long shot.
Take away guns, electricity, running water THEN see how well humans do as a species.
Tech does not us superior.
Not really...
I lived on a big ranch in the Paradise Valley in Montana in the 90’s that bordered the park. Beef. At that time the pack was small and didn’t travel out of the park much. We only had two heifers killed by the wolves. The gov paid us fair market value at the time. It’s a love hate relationship. So much tourism comes from the wolves. Early 2000’s we ran guided tours along our boundary we would see the wolves . That paid our barely breaking even ranch very well.
My mom is native and raised me on importance of nature as a whole, animals all have their place and reason, wolves are vital in keeping deer, elk and other mammals from overpopulating also many native tribes have wolf symbols some even have a wolf dance, wolves are amazing creatures and are also symbols of strength, loyalty and wisdom, they are similar to us humans in social structure they are family bound animals who raise their pups until they’ve grown to start their own pack they also teach their pups the ways, alpha males/females have equal role and work together to achieve their goals whether this is to protect their territory or while on the hunt, truly remarkable animals
Well thank god your mother and your don’t make the laws LOL.
Hunters can stop animals from overpopulating too if the state game board issues more tags. In states with a strong hunting culture you really don’t need all the same natural large predators.
Beautiful.
Both Joe and Diane are absolutely correct that winter die-off is the largest killer of big game in some areas, and state.
Yeah so we dont need wolves eating elk calves
Yeah, there should be legally mandated easements along a few properties to provide access to public land, and if nobody allows it then it should be taken by eminent domain. Public land should be accessible
Tell ranchers that graze cattle on public land that you want access to public land. They will tell you to pound sand they feel it’s theirs via blm
Buy land maybe. Steal it through a political process NO.
Wolves run in packs. Take it away to relocate it, the other packs DO NOT accept a stranger & will kill it! I worked on a Wolf Sanctuary Ranch!
Wolves "Saving the Planet"
Well, that's where dogs came from so, yeah, I'll buy that.
Great info
God bless this young lady
Being a guy that have always buy my food in a supermarket and town market..... living in the wild is insane.
We also live in a time of constant breaking news panic
Minnesota strong! Cool lady!
I had a girlfriend from minnesota named Jamal
I had no idea she existed. When I saw the thumbnail I wasn't going to click on it but then I saw the word wolf and now I'm glad cuz this lady is awesome.
Tampon Tim Strong
Minnesota weird, maybe. Keep your people and your politics on the west side of the Mississippi we dont need you in WI.
How about keep the cheeseheads out of MN. They all come here to get jobs.
Northern Mn has many thousands more wolves than when she worked in northhome Mn. Our deer herds are fractions of what they were 20 years ago. Our moose are just about gone. Very sad. I would love to hear her opinion on northern Mn now.
Ha! Northhome, right next to Effie, Bigfork and Wirt! 😂 this is Awesome!
The only people who want to reintroduce wolves are the people who don't have to deal with the consequences of them being around.
They never live in the areas where they roam free.
The corner crossing thing is more than hunting. When you have a checkerboard and you buy every piece of private in the checkerboard, you cut off legal access to the public and you can act like the public land is yours. You effectively double your acreage and a lot of the value in a set of land holdings in a checkerboard is public land that is locked up by the private around it.
The problem is the government, in their infinite wisdom made every other parcel private, so all the "black" squares are private and all the "red" squares are public.
Is Joe changing up his format of the show? This lady is an actual expert
idk she might be CIA
@@ShroomFactory that makes more sense lol or an actor but not a Terrance type actor cause “he might just be a genius” to quote Joe
No, she is not an expert. She is an educated idiot who unknowingly works for the Livestock Insurance industry. As a Wildlife Biologist she denies Mankind is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth. Man not only is part of the Natural Wildlife but also the Apex Predator.
A deceptive "expert"
@@427max This Wildlife Biologists denies Mankind is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth. Man is part of the Natural Wildlife on Planet Earth and the Apex Predator. Congress should restore Tribal Treaty Hunting Rights in Yellowstone Park and eliminate Protections for man-killing Man-eating Gray Wolves.
Joe will you be doing an election livestream on November 5th?
No
Full moons make me howl like a wolf out of breath
Great Job Diane Boyd : The only thing is The Timber Wolf was always present in the Kelly Lake / Kelly Creek Drainage of the Clearwater of Idaho… your heralded introduction of the mass of packs Canadian Wolf was over Kill…!
Interesting and I agree with some/most of what she is saying. However, I disagree that wolves don't have a significant impact on deer populations. Michigan's Upper Peninsula has Mid and Northern regions that have had dramatic declines in deer population directly corresponding to increased wolf population. The same is true in North Central and NW Wisconsin. In the UP hunters who used to see 4-6 deer per day now frequently go a week or more without seeing a single deer. It is causing the closure / sales of many great traditional deer camps and it has a huge detrimental impact on hunter recruitment.
What about all the Monsanto they spray around killing the elk.
But wolves are all mystical and spiritual and cool and they only take what they need and they are noble conservationists and muh biased research paper though!!!!
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Are you dumb?
Humans too
😂😂 as a wolf population grows game declines. What don’t you understand about that the only way you keep a wolf in check is to have another Apex predator such as a cougar or a bear so if you re-introduce cougars, bears and wolves, they will maintain a balance if you only bring back one of them, they will be out of balance in short order. This is the dumbest goddamn argument I’ve ever heard of. I know far too many ranchers in Montana in Wyoming dealing with these fucking issues right now, so that yuppies from California can feel like they’re saving the fucking world.
The kill in excess to have food already available
Come to northern wi. Where there are no deer anymore. Wolves destoryed the deer population
You were experiencing abnormal deer overpopulation for decades. You have no clue. I hear you locals eat dear everyday
Or come to southern wisconsin, where theyre are less than a dozen wolves in total, even up near michigans, your lucky to see a wolf . So your either from the east or your part of the problem
@@criSOME1you’re an idiot
People who hunt northern WI have more patience than me, that is for sure. Guys will hunt sun up to dark the whole 9 day gun season and see a couple does at best (no doe tags). Hunters up there need to head to central WI….tons of deer there. Also, bears eat a huge number of deer fawns, and there’s always been more bears than DNR admits. Bears eating elk calves is the reason the elk reintroduction hasn’t produced much.
Come to northern Minnesota and see what the wolves have done to the moose and deer
As this point was already made in the video. Don’t stop at the wolves. Look at the snow fall and lack of ag fields. Important reasons that lead to fewer deer in northern MN
I live in northern MN, used to see lots of deer, they all but disappeared. One evening I was sitting in a lawn chair and a doe came flying out of the woods woods, 30 seconds later a wolf came out of the same spot. Explains why I very seldom see deer around here anymore
Wolves aren’t spirit animals and they’re not evil. They’re wolves and they do what wolves do. Colorado made it tough by making it a ballot issue when they were moving down from Wyoming on their own.
Joe Rogan really got Longlegs on the pod...Nice
Sell more elk tags if the herd gets to big. Feed people. Not wolfs
Fukk people, save the wolves.
23 likes and this clip is about how hunters don't know wtf they're talking about when blaming wolves over winter die off.. love roganetes
@@ZizzerLV do you hunt
Very unlikely and hasn’t spent much time in the Rocky Mountain west either
😂
Gotta save society first
Too late for that
@@303TAG303 we’ll see
@@TheeMaddScienctist we can already see buddy, look at history
@@303TAG303 look at history = see future. Y’all gotta unplug
@@303TAG303 I respectfully disagree
Justin Webb from foundation for wildlife would be a good guest to talk about wolves
Yeah he's a total idiot. Dr Boyd has a phd. Webb blocks anyone who disproves his lunacy
Joe what does the land owner do when a hunter gets hurt on one of these pathways on your property? I get it but i think lines should be off limits unless permission is given.
The solution to land locked public land is a a forced path like Joe said. The government pays to fence a 20’ wide pathway along the edge of their land to the public land. If you as a hunter leave the fenced path, trespassing charge.
You think the government is going to get support to use tax dollars to create public access onto their biggest donor's properties?
The states can put roads through private property to create access
Wow! Thank you both
I was raised in a hunting family, and there were at least 3 cardinal rules: poaching is reprehensible, don't drink and hunt, and if you don't have a clean shot, don't take a chance on it and wind up with a gut-shot deer. My Grandpa, and larer my uncles, had almost a 2000 acre farm with lots of woods, plenty of extended family would hunt there, but you had better follow the rules. And we will turn poachers in.
What you don’t understand, Joe is we have the exact situation up where we have our ranch and as soon as you open up that little pathway that goes through your private property to the public land, you’ll get these public hunters that ruin it for everybody because on the way through your private ranch, they’re gonna see all these animals because it is a private ranch and they’re gonna start poaching and they’re gonna start shooting them from your access road or hunting from your access road and poaching once I go to that public land and don’t see anything or unsuccessful and then they go through your private ranch and it’s way easier so poaching is what’s keeping these people from giving access roads
I live in the upper peninsula of Michigan. We have not had hard winters in the past 8 years, and the wolves have %100 percent decimated the deer population. The difference in the places discussed in this JRE segment and Michigan is that the wolves aren’t managed here. It has ruined the fall economy that was centered around hunting public lands.
What if you let people hunt the wolves, too?
Joe Rogan looks like the guy at every gym that comes in for 4 hours a day, talks to everybody, does 10 total sets, and never does legs.
But he isn't
35 wolves after 1 year become 50. After 2 years become 90. After 3 year become 150. Now they spread.
There shouldn’t be 50,000 acre ranches where people “grow deer” or “grow elk” they’re wild animals and belong to the State, there should be more accessible public hunting lands and keeping public lands inaccessible for public use should be an automatic fine; ESPECIALLY when you’re selling access to the State owned property
Insane situation happening in Canada right now. Excessive linear disturbances (mostly ATV and logging trails) have made it exceptionally easy for wolves to hunt Caribou. Between rapidly exploding wolf populations as a result, and chronic wasting disease in the caribou, they're learning to being endangered. Instead of functionally restoring these linear features (which would involve very simple felling of trees to make the path difficult for wolves to traverse), Trudeau in his infinite wisdom has hired US companies to shoot wolves from helicopters (rather than the local Indigenous groups who have offered to assist). Absolutely insane.
Bureaucracy is a bih
Castros boy is soy filled simp.
What did you expect from Castro Jr?
Maybe it has more to do with chronic wasting disease and the wolves simply benefit? Terrible "solution" regardless
As a farmer in wv, I can’t speak for wolves but coyotes cost us a lot of money. Money most farmers/ranchers don’t have.
I’ve been corner hopping for years! I keep a note from my attorney in my pack. I’ll see you in court!!
What a smart lady!
Joe educates the wolf expert on wolves.
In the northeast we have a huge issue with wild turkeys.
Deer too. Far too many.
Incentivize hunting
It’s because they don’t let people hunt like they used too in the northeast, and the newer generation has less and less hunters every year so we aren’t keeping up like we used to.
Yep, my nephew got attacked by a wild flock, and a couple of rogue turkeys took out my French bullfrog! Savages!
The reintroduced turkeys in kansas are decimating quail populations
I think I'm in love. This woman is amazing !
He’s got that look in his eyes again…
We have an election in a a few weeks and we’re talking about wolves. WOLVES
Tell me about hyenas?
Wolves can indeed save the planet
She is purposely not discussing northern WI, MI, and MN where the wolves have devastated most of the wildlife up there. They are also eating people's dogs for crying out loud. Wolves are starting to eat each other because of starvation. Wolf paws have been found in wolf poop.
Yes weather is the biggest affect on herds but wolves keep it from coming back.
The deer are plentiful there. They aren’t eating each other. There are wolf dog hybrids now in Minnesota due to foolish pet owners.
That's not true. In fact wolves have helped bring back important trees and brush that were previously over eaten which has helped herbivore populations in areas where wolves are now. And, they do not over hunt like you're claiming. If they are as big of a problem as you're claiming then why were they here before us? Why were things normal and healthy back then when they were thriving if they are oh so terrible? If they are eating people's dogs then maybe those people need to be more responsible with their animals. I'm a farmer and haven't lost any livestock or pets to predators. Those dogs could also be killed by coyotes, mountain lions, or bears. Big deal. They were here first not you or the dogs and they belong here. It's scientifically proven that you are wrong do any amount of research and you'll see that. Wolves are a keystone species to the United States and it was a tragedy when they were gone. Trees stopped growing, elk and other cervids began breeding terrible traits that no longer were being removed by wolves, and we saw a giant spike in coyote populations which THEY like to actually attack dogs, people, and livestock way more often than wolves. Coyotes are less fearful of humans than wolves.
@@swiftclawtheshadowpup808 You are wrong about forests. Without human involvement all forests would have overly mature trees this preventing any understory from developing. Llightning, insects, and tornadoes are the only way to kill these mature forests. Wolves have nothing to do with it.
Wolves are attacking more people, which is happening in northern WI. Just last month a group of teenagers duck hunting were encircled by a pack of wolves. They were not out in "the boonies". It was in a massive community overrun by retirees. That means they are starving. You are straw manning me by assuming that everything was normal back in the day. You would have to walk around the forest, personally, 150-200 + years ago to truly see what wildlife was like then. What streams flowed where, what trees grew where and how many, etc. and how healthy wildlife was. If the timber wolves are properly fed then why are they pushing more southern every year? Why is it that trail cameras used to see squirrels, rabbits, raccoons, skunks, bears, deer, etc., but now a hundred photos will have 70% wolves or greater?
WI government have spent around 3 million dollars in lost cattle in the last ten years due to wolves. Democrat senator Tammy Baldwin introduced a bill to Congress to delist the timber wolves. This is a bipartisan problem.
In regards to pets, if the wolves were so well fed, then why do wolves feel the NEED to eat dogs off people's backyard? Golden retrievers, not poodles. No coyotes don't eat a regular sized dog. I live in coyote country and that is not a thing.
Wolves are found all around the world. What exactly makes them a keystone in the US?
All that needs to happen is a quota or a season. The states can make money on the side and manage wolves like any other animal. It's a win win.
Being "here first" doesn't legitimize anything. You are appealing to authority. With that logical you would have to give your land back to the wolves and leave your farm.
I hunt coyotes and they are definitely afraid of humans and can evade us with ease.
@@Carma123 not in my location. Elk herd has become stagnant since the introduction of wolves and the whitetail has dropped so much that people are selling their hunting land and permits sold are dropping faster than they should be. The packs are slowly moving south and where they move too they devastate those animals.
All that needs to happen is a quota or season. It's the best of both worlds.
I live and hunt in Minnesota, wolves are devastating our deer herd. 2.4 deer per square mile last year.
It’s odd that she used the term inhumane for a wolf to live out its life hunting things that are in front of it. Like Cattle, or people.
it's an intentional tactic used by predator apologists, just like giving them names.
They don't care about those things
@@bigtenfourrubberducky predator apologists?? 😂
We don’t have anything that big, but we’ve had people cut fences, set up game cameras to catch people, and they stole the game cameras…
That's cute when's Trump episode dropping Joe ?
Or at the VERY LEAST RFK
F Trump. F Kamala. At least this convo has some substance. Just my opinion ✌️
@@cestlavegan5793Your opinion is invalid, vegan.
@@cestlavegan5793substance? Lol some weird liberal idiot who has never spent a minute in the woods hahahaha ya ok......
after Kamala's kackeler!
Is Diane single?
i would love to know where in WY/MT they are giving away unlimited elk tags because the population is so great. come on now...
The new Type 8 licenses(unlimited )will be available in eastern Wyoming's elk hunt areas 3, 6, 7, 8, 117, 122, and 126.
There is an access problem in these areas where tags numbers are unlimited. Property owners who would like fewer elk also don’t want hunters or want a prohibitive access fee.
Like when people say you are living in a simulation actually you are not
The French have a version of a shepherd dog which is an equivalent of an MMA fighter dog that fights off the wolves. I don’t see why American ranchers can’t do what the European ranchers do. I mean the arm the dogs with spiked collars to give them the upper hand
I hope my hair looks as good as hers at her age 😍
Very interesting smart lady. 👍
Access on our own reservation is cut off to us.
JAKE THE WOLF
That's also why the government gives titles.
I tend to think of human hunting as a great substitute for non-human predation. With the amount of human hunting nowadays, I tend to think we get to choose between wolves and human predation at a comparable rate to what we have now. A compromise us our other option
“Expert”
Thank god Trump hadn't gotten on jre, I enjoy pods with genuine, interesting people. Not selfish lying "politicians".
Hunting is where I learned some farmers see hunting as murder… growing up, I’ve always assumed farmers and hunters were cut from the same cloth. That is not the case!
In scotland we have "right to roam". This means we have the freedom to access any natural feautures, regardless of it is private land or not. There is a code of conduct for this, and in general, pride and responsibility from most. We can even camp almost anywhere rural. It works great.
For high trust and small countries this works. Hopefully you don’t lose this with mass immigration.
In the full podcast, she basically tells Joe that his yellow journalism wolf stories are bunk, including the super packs. He should have more guests who are real experts and debunk BS like Dr Boyd does. Guest who spread conspiracy theories and myths get more views though. No Joe her experience is a lifetime of wolf biology, along side of a phd in biology.
I wish she come listen to the ranchers and farmers around here.. And I wonder what her answers to their questions would be..
Joe, we are waiting for Hancock podcast on ancient civilizations part II, and Trump's podcast on how they will become extinct again.
make it happen.
Almost every community in Canada had a Rod & Gun club , bk in the day, not sure but I don't think many exist anymore ? Not sure why. It tought proper hunting and fishing ethics,
They're too male and white