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  • Опубліковано 28 бер 2024
  • Andrew Bustamante is a former CIA covert intelligence officer. Check out his work and podcast at everydayspy.com Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors:
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    OUTLINE:
    0:00 - Introduction
    0:56 - CIA and the President
    12:34 - War in Ukraine
    53:30 - Most powerful intelligence agencies
    1:00:40 - David Petraeus
    1:10:17 - Undercover disguises
    1:23:16 - Human nature
    1:32:36 - CIA recruitment process
    1:49:19 - CIA and secrecy
    1:55:52 - Cyber security
    2:06:34 - Sexpionage
    2:13:08 - Private intelligence
    2:26:35 - NSA and Snowden
    2:54:34 - Conspiracy theories
    3:15:42 - CIA and UFOs
    3:30:27 - Spy tricks
    3:47:10 - Advice for young people
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 22 тис.

  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  Рік тому +1873

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
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    0:56 - CIA and the President
    12:34 - War in Ukraine
    53:30 - Most powerful intelligence agencies
    1:00:40 - David Petraeus
    1:10:17 - Undercover disguises
    1:23:16 - Human nature
    1:32:36 - CIA recruitment process
    1:49:19 - CIA and secrecy
    1:55:52 - Cyber security
    2:06:34 - Sexpionage
    2:13:08 - Private intelligence
    2:26:35 - NSA and Snowden
    2:54:34 - Conspiracy theories
    3:15:42 - CIA and UFOs
    3:30:27 - Spy tricks
    3:47:10 - Advice for young people

    • @phillipsundal8782
      @phillipsundal8782 Рік тому +36

      Thanks, Lex! Any updates on interview with Putin?

    • @lisettegarcia
      @lisettegarcia Рік тому +43

      I'm only 3:00 minutes in and he already misspoke about the source of the authorities. It is not divvied up by the executive. The authorities are legislative in nature, stemming directly from federal statute, codified in the US Code following drafting and ratification by the US Congress.
      He's also wrong about how money is appropriated/spent 6:20 but he is accurate that 6:25 the directors "serve at the pleasure of the President." Ntl, he's wrong about this appointment structure being reducible to cronyism because the agency could effectively mount a coup against the president and the country if Presidents can't choose leaders to those organizations that they trust. The body of the organization in the form of nonpolitical staff -- each of which is empowered to disregard any illegal order -- is the check against the corruption he purportedly decries.

    • @1walicki
      @1walicki Рік тому +19

      Every now and again his voice & intonations sounds just like Joe Rogan

    • @garad123456
      @garad123456 Рік тому +39

      29:30 He claims that UK paid off the lend-lease aid in 2020. That is absolutely false. Lend-lease of WW2 didnt have to be paid back.
      "The Lend-Lease agreements with 30 countries provided for repayment not in terms of money or returned goods, but in "joint action directed towards the creation of a liberalized international economic order in the postwar world." en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease
      He may be mixing it with the anglo-american loan which was given after war and UK paid back in 2006. It helped UK economy to stay running. Also US gave enormous amounts of aid to europe to rebuild, known as marshall aid. This guy frames american aid to europe as malicious, wanting to debt countries. He spreads downright lies and Lex does nothing about it. That's the quality of this podcast.

    • @danielshaffer1283
      @danielshaffer1283 Рік тому +34

      Just listened to the Ukraine part. I am glad to hear Lex doing more pushback, and it seems the visit to Ukraine maybe revealed to him something that Bustamante does not understand, that Ukrainians are fighting for their freedom. Bustamante is wrong, by the way, that revolutions and wars of independence have only been one with support of great powers. Look at India or Israel for some examples, or say Algeria. Bustamante also seems to miss the bigger geopolitical picture and why it’s important for the West that Ukraine wins: if Russia wins, it will keep invading it’s neighbors, as will other countries that calculate that they can get away with it. That will weaken the western order of the world we live in, including democracy, freedom and other human rights. So his assessment on Ukraine I believe is as wrong as it was on how quickly Russia will take Ukraine (as he admits), and for the same reason. Even if Ukraine falls to Russia, they will resist the puppet government, just like the Finns did in 1930’s. Russia lost already, even if it conquers Ukraine.
      To Lex, if you read this: I had been banned by you or one of you admins on your telegram. Most likely because I speculated that you might still be looking up to Putin as you seemed to before. I can’t know what your true opinion is, but I am hopeful that if you ever did admire Putin, that visiting Ukraine changed your mind. It takes strong character to change your own mind. Hopefully you can then understand why I was upset with you before, if that showed through my comments. As you, this conflict is personal to me. I am still not sure what your stance is now, but I’ll be looking forward to your video on the trip to Ukraine with some hope now.

  • @mrgman1326
    @mrgman1326 Рік тому +5268

    I’m a retired FBI Special Agent, and I can say that Andrew’s thoughts on our government not using surveillance against us, but only for terrorism is incredibly naive.

    • @misterserious3522
      @misterserious3522 Рік тому +763

      One doesnt need to be a retired FIB speshul agent to get that.

    • @monica1811
      @monica1811 Рік тому +266

      It’s also a lie. Though he may actually believe that, deceive until one believes can apply to themselves as well.

    • @sqatsi1101
      @sqatsi1101 Рік тому +313

      Security over freedom leads to neither-he’s had a cup of kool-aid too many despite his high IQ.

    • @deejhay
      @deejhay Рік тому +80

      That's not Andrew's thoughts... it's legend

    • @mgmassey174
      @mgmassey174 Рік тому

      Well then, as the daughter of predatory pedophiles, I'd say my naivete went back in 1963.
      I trust no one .

  • @mrmofopink
    @mrmofopink Рік тому +4677

    "When exposing a crime is treated as committing a crime, you are being ruled by criminals" - Edward Snowden.

    • @mariannorton4161
      @mariannorton4161 Рік тому +76

      Yep.

    • @Ojja78
      @Ojja78 Рік тому +98

      Damn, that hits hard.

    • @jannichi6431
      @jannichi6431 Рік тому +72

      Wonder how the free Snowden movement is doing, haven't heard anything a while?

    • @marineviet-vet2908
      @marineviet-vet2908 Рік тому +10

      correction my friend, Not where that sublime Detective Sherlock Holmes enters an apperance

    • @user-qc8vj3vp9v
      @user-qc8vj3vp9v Рік тому +22

      Great, and accurate statement.👍🏼❤

  • @SHADOWRONEMUS
    @SHADOWRONEMUS 19 днів тому +47

    Lex did just an amazing job interviewing Mr. Bustamonte, I’ve heard probably eight or nine interviews with him and Lex asked the most probing and interesting questions which Andrew seem to have trouble answering some but I’m very proud of Lex doing such a great job asking probing questions I’ve been a listener and love this podcast almost since it’s inception and the growth in his ability to interview is clearly apparent in my estimation. Keep doing what you do Lex I believe you have one of the most important platforms out there for conversation, and from what I’ve seen, always acting in good faith, love for his fellow man and optimism.

    • @Killuminati23
      @Killuminati23 13 днів тому +6

      ever wondered why this cia guy is wandering around every second channel just at this moment, with the talking points he brings up?

    • @JamesBrown-ux9ds
      @JamesBrown-ux9ds 11 днів тому +2

      Too obvious he has had no idea what to ask. He missed almost every junction. But first of all you need to know the infinite numbers of rooms and boxes that are. Or could be out of the blue. America can't win. They don't know the game.

  • @theghost9479
    @theghost9479 Місяць тому +12

    This is an amazing conversation. Thank you for this!

  • @renaissanceredneck3695
    @renaissanceredneck3695 4 місяці тому +443

    One thing I heard a CIA operative say is, there is "No such thing as former CIA."

    • @minibobber
      @minibobber 3 місяці тому +25

      its sounds catchy so it must be true.

    • @renaissanceredneck3695
      @renaissanceredneck3695 3 місяці тому +23

      @@minibobber ask a Marine if they were "formerly" a Marine.

    • @Roberto-de8xv
      @Roberto-de8xv 3 місяці тому +14

      ​@@renaissanceredneck3695my friend says former Marine but he felt duped for fighting in Iraq..the propaganda was strong back then

    • @vibes24osrs
      @vibes24osrs 3 місяці тому +7

      thats simply not true theres a former CIA agent that lives in my town his whole identity is being a former CIA member lol

    • @renaissanceredneck3695
      @renaissanceredneck3695 3 місяці тому

      @@vibes24osrs you apparently missed the point. Yes, there are people that are former employees of the CIA, and yet most still maintain their contacts with the agency, and will do favors for their former employer, just search for "Anderson+Cooper+CIA". But yes, technically you're correct.

  • @therikkest310
    @therikkest310 Рік тому +4643

    I like that Lex always has prepared questions but also goes off script when he's interested. He's the perfect AI.

    • @markandremy
      @markandremy Рік тому +39

      lol

    • @zekea7873
      @zekea7873 Рік тому

      @Melvin Deeply He told Zuckerberg, “a lot of people dislike you, some may even say hate you”.

    • @seeyanexttuesday23
      @seeyanexttuesday23 Рік тому +49

      "Off script" Lex is the best. We want to see him engaged in the conversation enough to forget he has an audience. I believe the best has yet to come here. He is a butterfly. ♥️

    • @JohnCraic89
      @JohnCraic89 Рік тому +13

      🤣🤣

    • @Y0utubePresident
      @Y0utubePresident Рік тому +5

      🤣

  • @Fulltime_Rookie
    @Fulltime_Rookie 17 днів тому +6

    Really enjoy these conversations, thanks Lex and Co. Always fascinating and interesting 😎 Equally grateful for all professionals who give their time for everyone to appreciate 🙏🏻 Keep pushing !

  • @PlanetaryVisitor
    @PlanetaryVisitor 16 днів тому +4

    We've seen dozens of Lex interviews ~ all of them good, this one the best ~ 4 hours well spent ~ thanks for a challenging world view... even when we weren't so sure it was right.

  • @izrealfluid24
    @izrealfluid24 5 місяців тому +769

    The last thing I'm going to do is trust anything CIA agent says

    • @aaronjenkins2135
      @aaronjenkins2135 4 місяці тому

      When the cia agent is telling you the opposite is true of what the official media is telling you then you listen.

    • @drewhuckabay3425
      @drewhuckabay3425 4 місяці тому +44

      All information is good information. It is good to distrust and question everything. It's foolish to completely turn away someone's voice because of their past.

    • @CockSmasher-xw4px
      @CockSmasher-xw4px 4 місяці тому +27

      @@drewhuckabay3425 You probably read through all your spam emails dont you?

    • @indogyrsimdead
      @indogyrsimdead 4 місяці тому

      @@CockSmasher-xw4px lol

    • @ChicagoHaitian3566
      @ChicagoHaitian3566 3 місяці тому

      @@CockSmasher-xw4px😂😂😂

  • @brentm9848
    @brentm9848 4 місяці тому +1012

    He has an amazing ability to sound so certain and so knowledgeable about things he was entirely (and predictably) wrong about.

    • @Skaggs666
      @Skaggs666 4 місяці тому +27

      Like the US trying to seek diplomatic solutions to abducted citizens. I lol’d at that one

    • @spermwater
      @spermwater 4 місяці тому

      @brentm9848 do you have any sources that can validate this? (Serious question)

    • @chrisf4268
      @chrisf4268 4 місяці тому +39

      That is how people like him earn a living. There are many of his kind out there.

    • @stephencurtis2282
      @stephencurtis2282 4 місяці тому

      This guy is a salesman for US interests and stated intentions. He's a clever and highly intelligent mind manipulator and I would not trust him with a toothpick. The US is going through a remarkable moral conflict within itself. It says "democracy and freedom" while it parlays with the worst examples of non-democratic regimes worldwide. The mantra is that the ends must justify the means at any cost. They are embedded in a truly immense moral vacuum where principles are exchanged for expedient so blithely and often; so conflicted and removed from truth, that it's hard to comprehend what they stand for anymore. If only they did what they said. The real reason they don't is because their moral compass has been so overrun by the military imperative that it's impossible anymore to know what is real and what they truly value. This is 'Orwell' written in the language of cubic dollars, the lies of the US government, while at the cost of the lives of the propagandized and indentured governments. War is a terrible thing, but we don't mind, if we get the result we want - this is what they are saying. Ukraine is the plaything of the hegemonic interests of the US as it faces down Russia while it invokes its worn-out platitudes for an expedient.

    • @stefanpopescu9664
      @stefanpopescu9664 4 місяці тому +50

      like any sociopath liar ... he is just another Wayne Simmons, not even a good one ... I have no idea how he tricked Lex to get on his podcast

  • @roseannemain9957
    @roseannemain9957 2 місяці тому +10

    Fascinating. Really interesting, thank you. Lots of food for thought.

  • @giurculetepaul8034
    @giurculetepaul8034 14 днів тому +2

    I felt you a bit overwhelmed, Fridman. I loved the interview. Thx for your hard work.

  • @sbarmiueenl
    @sbarmiueenl 4 місяці тому +363

    That guy made a living out of lying, but he would never lie to us.

    • @saxhound2003
      @saxhound2003 3 місяці тому +6

      . . ever . . His eyes can see thru a concrete wall, as easily as a bank vault door, and read your mind like an open book, already closed. Thank You Andy and Lex! Have some more Kool aid . . and relax . .

    • @saxhound2003
      @saxhound2003 3 місяці тому +2

      1:46:00 1:46:00 1:46:00
      Z-row One of You are one too . . oroZ.;¿

    • @letyourlightshine8646
      @letyourlightshine8646 Місяць тому +28

      Once CIA always CIA. No one ever leaves. The role may change, but I think it’s obvious to most that ole Andy is tasked with repairing the image of the spooks.

    • @Humanfirst528
      @Humanfirst528 Місяць тому +4

      😂😂😂 oh no he would NEVER lie to "who"???

    • @Humanfirst528
      @Humanfirst528 Місяць тому

      CIA needs to be dismanled! They are out of control for the gouverment!!

  • @ChiaraDBrown
    @ChiaraDBrown Рік тому +3602

    Andrew: I am trained by the most competent spy agency in the world to lie to people and pretend that I am their friend and giving them something they want, but I actually have ulterior motives and am willing to do or say practically anything to achieve those motives. And even though I am not longer employed by the CIA, I still enjoy doing that in my personal life.
    Everyone: But he's not doing that with us!!!

  • @MandosCulture
    @MandosCulture 2 дні тому +1

    I have watched this interview NUMEROUS times, excellent interview Lex and Andrew

  • @ande9568
    @ande9568 Місяць тому +77

    As a fellow ENTP I strongly suspect this guy was at the very best driving past a CIA building while reading a Tom Clancy novel and heard something about “fake it till you make it” on the radio and found his meaning in life.

    • @ThomasSanders-do3mx
      @ThomasSanders-do3mx 23 дні тому +3

      He’s literally confirmed a former CIA agent. I bet you’re a plumber talking shit about a decorated veteran…. 3:18:52 amirite?

    • @almas3427
      @almas3427 20 днів тому

      He’s a CIA useful idiot gang stalker. He’s not intelligent enough to be high ranking official. He’s just hired to stalk and harass innocent civilians. CIA has been involved in gang stalking of innocent people last 25 years.

    • @paulkieffer1189
      @paulkieffer1189 10 днів тому

      Yeah this guy is a super clown 🤡

    • @babycakes8514
      @babycakes8514 8 днів тому +1

      Lol, As an estp I also smell bs. He seems very comfortable with giving info on the cia. if any of the stuff he says is true, why is he being allowed to run his mouth all over UA-cam? Has he been told to do this by the CIA or is he an independent actor? I say the later. He seems to have no objective here

  • @PronkDaMonk
    @PronkDaMonk Рік тому +1692

    This guy is like a cool youth pastor for the cia

  • @donnakirkpatrick8599
    @donnakirkpatrick8599 4 місяці тому +411

    As a citizen of 78 years old, I haven't trusted government since November 1963. Lots of people in my generation think this more and more . Corruption has grown in this country as it has in every government throughout time.

    • @anuragmadan
      @anuragmadan 3 місяці тому +4

      but was there a good time at all?

    • @user-qr2kt2oq7s
      @user-qr2kt2oq7s 3 місяці тому +4

      Before the criminals showed us who they were.

    • @terranwars3504
      @terranwars3504 3 місяці тому +8

      But it's your generation making the rules right now. And have been for a while.

    • @Brian-nl1ok
      @Brian-nl1ok 2 місяці тому +8

      : "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Ben Franklin.

    • @alexandrailubs2945
      @alexandrailubs2945 2 місяці тому +1

      78?😮

  • @kenschweter190
    @kenschweter190 24 дні тому +3

    I absolutely love your work! Thank you for listening to all sides!

  • @theoldtimelinexxx453
    @theoldtimelinexxx453 2 місяці тому +53

    Crazy how autoplay when I fall asleep this video ends up playing.

    • @jcv2020
      @jcv2020 Місяць тому +2

      So trippy. I woke up to this video today

    • @fuzzbang
      @fuzzbang 29 днів тому +4

      Same. Over and over again

    • @Unclemeldrick
      @Unclemeldrick 27 днів тому +1

      This one and the one with Paul Rosolie. My dream alters when Paul describes the Amazon jungle and what contains in there such as deadly animals and tribespeople etc

    • @patricebeebe6179
      @patricebeebe6179 26 днів тому +1

      And this interview was almost 4 hours long and an ad never interrupted it?! Yeah. Ok.

    • @larryrapshaw8405
      @larryrapshaw8405 19 днів тому +1

      Same

  • @Branko353
    @Branko353 Рік тому +3075

    He finally found his dream job. Working for CIA as an ex-CIA.

    • @SalemSphynx
      @SalemSphynx Рік тому +47

      Lol🤷🏻‍♀️

    • @tewekdenahom485
      @tewekdenahom485 Рік тому

      ex cia is code for CIA agent for life

    • @lprophit
      @lprophit Рік тому +21

      haha

    • @irajohnson1101
      @irajohnson1101 Рік тому +20

      The interviewee is giving his thoughts on the possibility of the outcome of the war bad or not.

    • @jmp01a24
      @jmp01a24 Рік тому +48

      There's a word for such a guy... can't quite remember, plz help me. TRAITOR!!!

  • @vovasemenenko9458
    @vovasemenenko9458 5 місяців тому +362

    I was thinking “wow what a likable guy” until he started talking about the NSA. Then I remembered- Oh yeah, this guy is a fed 😂

    • @johnmcauliffe8824
      @johnmcauliffe8824 4 місяці тому +28

      A rule of thumb is that there is no such thing as "ex CIA"

    • @JonBonDylan
      @JonBonDylan 4 місяці тому +10

      Yes exactly - we are ignorant, and he is on the side of the law 😂 Jesus was a criminal in the eyes of law

    • @susanlorraineknox5780
      @susanlorraineknox5780 4 місяці тому +11

      I'd be real careful about lumping everyone onto an either/or paradigm. There are always exceptions and gradients. It's hard to tell who's who these days.

    • @vovasemenenko9458
      @vovasemenenko9458 4 місяці тому +8

      @@susanlorraineknox5780 ok Karen

    • @saveamerica7502
      @saveamerica7502 4 місяці тому +3

      2:33 yes a private court, along with with having the knowledge of what some politician is said privately to use against them. Sometimes it's not about prosecution it's about leverage and you can bet this guy knows I agree with the original poster the sky is likeable but he is definitely drank the Kool-Aid that we should trust these agencies as if they haven't had an agenda to be able to drag in billions and billions of dollars for their operations. And they need Congress to approve a lot of that dark money what a better way to do it than to read into their metadata which is already been proven that the organizations have done this. One last thing they don't need to take it to the courts and have the courts arrest people they just need to say we don't like this person's view take them off Twitter or X right like we have already seen proven again that if they don't like your views they will remove you from social media while the government just hints at the fact that this person is a bad person.

  • @breevas5085
    @breevas5085 13 днів тому +1

    I love that, doubling down on the things you are good at and not doing the things that you Aren’t. This might have been a fit for me if life had played out that way. You are awesome Andrew!

  • @onaleeshipstead
    @onaleeshipstead Місяць тому +3

    This is a very interesting program. Thank you for this.

  • @momentarynarration
    @momentarynarration Рік тому +627

    Loving Mike Baker’s new disguise, almost couldn’t tell it was him

    • @kwameowusu8351
      @kwameowusu8351 Рік тому +19

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @goranbrajkovic9925
      @goranbrajkovic9925 Рік тому +13

      😂😂😂

    • @remix-yy1hs
      @remix-yy1hs Рік тому +10

      Hahahah I love you man. I was losing hope. Thanks man I really mean it

    • @juniorcusn
      @juniorcusn Рік тому +1

      🤣

    • @henry06x
      @henry06x Рік тому

      Mike baker leaves his phone at home and takes an old dumb car woody wagon to disappear in the woods. This dudes full on let the government spy on you we would never turn it against you….

  • @karlmcatamney1938
    @karlmcatamney1938 Рік тому +2046

    Great to see an ex and a current Cia ops chatting together... the psy ops is next level.

  • @foodo806
    @foodo806 Місяць тому +3

    Excellent podcast, thanks.

  • @maxfield3106
    @maxfield3106 22 дні тому +13

    the way that he neither confirmed nor denied remote viewing and then gave that "hey, according to einstein's theory, anything's possible" felt quite revealing actually

    • @DragonAI_Power
      @DragonAI_Power 11 днів тому

      Now you understand

    • @DeadStreamOrganics
      @DeadStreamOrganics 3 дні тому

      I know an ex intelligence operative, it’s not a question of if they can access your electronic information and devices, it’s how fast and how easy. For example iPhones are all a 3 digit number/ prompt in the emergency call screen from accessing everything you’ve ever had on your phone, he had my phones entire history pulled up in less than 5 seconds

  • @ke8739
    @ke8739 Рік тому +838

    Well played Lex, we finally got to the ultimate Turing test, can a covert CIA agent spot a covert AI.
    You won't fool me, R2D2

    • @Sl33zytheclown
      @Sl33zytheclown Рік тому +1

      This exactly. This "agent" is an obvious disinfo. Plant. He's full of it. And when he find out how corrupt the see. I. A. really is. He'll just say well my upper ups.misled me. What a waste of podcast.

    • @AlexanderJamesHurley
      @AlexanderJamesHurley Рік тому +36

      Who is who though, really? Results may be shocking.

    • @alexisjuillard4816
      @alexisjuillard4816 Рік тому +10

      all answers can be found if you watch "this is my conversation with a goose. or is it a duck?" podcast
      best 2 minutes i ever watched, felt like 2h, fascinating

    • @alexoolau
      @alexoolau Рік тому +1

      CIA agents motivated to make trouble around world in order to keep their jobs. Now I understand. No difference from military industrial complexes. These people shape our international politics, which is quite dangerous.

    • @yunggoosbumps215
      @yunggoosbumps215 Рік тому +1

      Don't be shocked to find out that the CIA PR agent has the CIA bots in the comments designed by AI to present a group of people who actually believe his BS.

  • @victorjans3771
    @victorjans3771 Рік тому +557

    His "moral flexibility" really showed when he talked about Snowden and mass surveillance.

    • @PhilipDirven
      @PhilipDirven Рік тому +100

      Indeed, I also think that for the majority of the people 'Snowden' was a wake up call instead of a bleep on their radar.

    • @sb75ification
      @sb75ification Рік тому +32

      Victor Jans….you’ve just been put on 17 additional Fed lists.

    • @victorjans3771
      @victorjans3771 Рік тому +36

      @@sb75ification trust me, I'm on all of them

    • @jovianfour20
      @jovianfour20 Рік тому +10

      His "bass-line" was squirming.

    • @jovianfour20
      @jovianfour20 Рік тому +26

      "Its much more sensible to be a silent servant humbly carrying the burden of public service". Sounds legit. I wish some of our tax money would silently and humbly give us some health care and public education.

  • @user-bg8ji1xf9u
    @user-bg8ji1xf9u 24 дні тому +1

    This has been a wonderful Communion !

  • @haychlee
    @haychlee 2 місяці тому +1

    Fabulous! Thank you both xxx

  • @MrEazyE357
    @MrEazyE357 Рік тому +430

    Never thought I'd see two spies from opposing countries talking to each other on a podcast. The world we live in!

    • @rachelmolina986
      @rachelmolina986 Рік тому +26

      😂😂😂 .. best comment here!!

    • @idn
      @idn Рік тому +7

      LOL

    • @stephenuhe9229
      @stephenuhe9229 Рік тому +4

      There is a story where you had to be the survivor and it was a contest so only soldiers entered this contest This contest was on a really really rugged wild mountain track with wild weather and snow and one had to hunt to catch their tucker their food and hike and miss landmines and then get back to the base and be the 1st first back and be the winner and than you would get to become an elite soldier a spy or whatever or the equivalent of the green Berrets. Anyway the contestant the brave soldier would be dropped off in the wild at the beginning of this extremely crazy and unpredictable corse with just a compass and weapon and moderately warm clothing and a tarp that could be easily carried also a very sketchy map and then get driven to the drop off point where the soldier the contestant would have to hike back to base the best way he could. The track was made so that the soldiers the contestant would enivatably have to go over the mountain and along a ridge to get back to base and they were given the bare essentials in order to survive or sometimes die as it was a harrowing journey. They sent the soldiers out one by one so when one got back usually after a month then they would send out the next contestant the next soldier. Anyway this one soldier came back only after one day and one night and the judges looked really surprised as absolutely no one had finished their quest the corse so quickly or usually did not return within a month so the judges the commanders were like um "CONGRADULATIONS augh um we think... but we can't work out why you finished the hike the corse augh that by the way usually takes a month and mostly more than a month to return and you soldier are back the next day...how " the judges asked and the soldier "how did you manage to do this "? the judges were confused as they asked hesitantly. A sly smile came over the soldiers the winners face. If your reading this story have you worked out how the soldier the winner how he managed and how he returned back to base only after a day and night and so efficiently or and quickly ?? "Like I stated" the dude soldier said and then ...a sly smile returned and came over his face as the judges shuffled their feet and he said " well i didn't really want to get frozen out there where its minus ten degrees and I heard that most soldiers died trying to make it back to the finish line first so he said I will tell you so he went on to say "well on the way to the drop off point I started thinking about my chance of winning and at this point may I remind you gentlemen um officers that you said " first back" so I thought about that and my survival chances and spoke to my driver about it and he told me he had dreamed of doing the corse and becoming a top gun and a hero but he said he knew from past exercises and training drills that his chances of even finishing the corse were slim and he said he was" pretty much a failure and then the driver went on to tell me how he didn't know if he would ever even get up the nerve to speak and it was at this stage of the conversation I offered him a smoke as he the driver finished his sentence..." to any gir.... " "So in my mind at this moment I assessed his life and thought yeah mate your not really soldier material and your life sounds so depressing and it was at that piont that I knew how I was going to win and get back to the finish line first and how I would be certain to win" said the soldier and he stated and it was at that moment that I pulled out my knife and as swiftly as I could i mustered all my strength and all my inner gall and put aside my guilt and then without another thought to my fellow driver I plunged the knife deeply into the drivers body and I managed to kill him quickly and cleanly thus I won " he looked satisfied and said ". I am the winner ....correct. ????!! I hope you enjoyed this story. I wonder how many readers guessed the ending before the end ?? The END.

    • @JeffKubel
      @JeffKubel Рік тому +3

      Lmao

    • @stephenuhe9229
      @stephenuhe9229 Рік тому +3

      @@AB-wf8ek I never claimed to be a good story writer but it does make one wonder about the stakes and the outcome and the justification. The dude was made for killing I guess. I just got fascinated by the tale.

  • @JoseTheRover
    @JoseTheRover 4 місяці тому +106

    Man this video and this guy’s predictions didn’t pan out…

    • @yarik12341
      @yarik12341 Місяць тому +8

      Yeah this pod just auto played to me after a Joe Rogan video and his confidence on south Ukraine by fall was odd. I think with my personal bias I thought, at the time, that Ukraine would hold onto the south.

    • @MelbourneMeMe
      @MelbourneMeMe Місяць тому +22

      "western propaganda is basically the same as Russian propaganda" was just as laughable... What a bs 'expert', lex should have him back on and just replay parts of this...

    • @LauraLouLou
      @LauraLouLou Місяць тому +5

      They are now!

    • @applestienwilocox6381
      @applestienwilocox6381 Місяць тому

      Guys an idiot and doesn't know anything he keeps talking about the lend lease act since the invasion not a dollar or military equipment has been sent through the lend lease they owe us nothing this guy is a clown.

    • @ReturnToSender1313
      @ReturnToSender1313 22 дні тому

      @@MelbourneMeMewell, all governments lie. We the people, are a means to an end. Politicians are strangers who enjoy the trappings of power

  • @Findmylimit
    @Findmylimit 15 днів тому

    Great interview thank you!

  • @stinkynightelf
    @stinkynightelf 2 місяці тому +3

    @lexfridman idk if you’ll see this but your intros remind me of Max brooks audio book of World War Z, is that intentional? I think its amazing

  • @loganontherun
    @loganontherun Рік тому +732

    Found Lex when he was on Rogan's podcast and can say this is now my #1 watched/listen too thing on the internet. Amazing questions and calmness can have me listening for hours

  • @mattingly8322
    @mattingly8322 Рік тому +1179

    This dude is still an active operator. His defense of the NSA is ludicrous.

    • @veprk8662
      @veprk8662 Рік тому +115

      I skipped most interview but glad the bs is getting calles out

    • @mattingly8322
      @mattingly8322 Рік тому +157

      @@veprk8662 it's a great interview and he is obviously a very talented intelligent human but he just is so un trust worthy. He basically tells the listener to not trust him

    • @simbareps682
      @simbareps682 Рік тому

      Came here just to say this. His take on Snowden was ridiculous. This motherfucker was planted on this show lol

    • @caseyleonard1327
      @caseyleonard1327 Рік тому +64

      Lex's handler

    • @raceeverythinga1326
      @raceeverythinga1326 Рік тому +19

      @@jamiewoodstock1006 they absolutely would.

  • @TheMATHEHOUSE
    @TheMATHEHOUSE 12 днів тому

    Absolutetly love the timestamps!

  • @jackgoodwin1615
    @jackgoodwin1615 Місяць тому +5

    I feel like this guy is being as truthful as he can

  • @GerardVaughan-qe7ml
    @GerardVaughan-qe7ml Рік тому +152

    "Our disinformation campaign will be complete when everything the American citizen thinks they know, is untrue".
    William Casey CIA director ( way back when)

    • @denovo62
      @denovo62 11 місяців тому

      Yeah and Mike Pompeo’s more recent comment “we lie, we cheat, we steal….” When referring to his stint heading the CIA. Their resume reads like the right hand guy of Satan himself.

    • @alexlaw1892
      @alexlaw1892 11 місяців тому

      They're campaign must be close to complete then.
      Pretty much everyone thinks. Race mixing, pedophilia, the moon landing, and germ theory are true and moral. So job done.

    • @user-ws3sl9xi7y
      @user-ws3sl9xi7y 11 місяців тому +5

      What a creepy quote huh?

    • @Jamesfrancosdog
      @Jamesfrancosdog 11 місяців тому

      There’s no proof this quote is even real. A staffer claimed she heard it in a meeting with Him
      And President Reagan.

  • @AaronDaley117
    @AaronDaley117 Рік тому +670

    Love how he went complete poker face with the JFK questions and the drug questions. I'm betting Bustamante is 100% still in the CIA.

    • @RyanWbjj170
      @RyanWbjj170 Рік тому +67

      100%

    • @lobes117
      @lobes117 Рік тому +65

      Exactly, there's no way he's not still in the alphabet institution.

    • @tbrech8625
      @tbrech8625 Рік тому +27

      I’m actually liking Bustamante a bit. 🥸

    • @VincentCVazquez
      @VincentCVazquez Рік тому +44

      Doubt he’d put his face out there on a podcast with millions of viewers if he still works as an operator

    • @otisjacksonjunior9795
      @otisjacksonjunior9795 Рік тому +67

      When he claimed ignorance about the drug stuff with Seale & Bush I got a strong lying vibe.

  • @sherriford1978
    @sherriford1978 Місяць тому +3

    The talk about empathy vs strategic reading what someone will do next and then directing it…. ie manipulation. I NEVER trust manipulative people.

  • @kevin-zd4po
    @kevin-zd4po 20 днів тому +2

    Great show one of the best four hours of my life

  • @marksutherlandjr.2121
    @marksutherlandjr.2121 4 місяці тому +554

    Snowden is literally the definition of doing the right thing in the face of incredible adversity. 👏

    • @iancrawford7655
      @iancrawford7655 4 місяці тому

      Yeah bull shit Snowden is in Russia rn with US secrets Snowden did the right thing the wrong way he tried to leverage info to get sanctuary and although it worked he's fucked later if we ever captured a Russian with info we would just trade lmao

    • @jennifermommy9373
      @jennifermommy9373 4 місяці тому +9

      What Snowden did was brave and people needed to know but the execution of getting the info out was sloppy. The news "blacked" out information but you could still see the info. Snowden should be in America living free but the way the release was handled put "American assets" at risk.

    • @reecie44
      @reecie44 4 місяці тому

      @@jennifermommy9373o

    • @moodybugg-2098
      @moodybugg-2098 4 місяці тому +6

      Snowden is controlled opposition. 100%. Do you really think we would have had such mainstream coverage on him. Although they portrayed it as negative. He was getting paid for an acting gig.. what does he care. Snowden is a made for TV character. Period. If they didn't want us to hear Snowden, WE'D NEVER KNOW . We only see and hear what They want us to see & hear. I can't believe grown men and women haven't ALL figured this out. It's so ridiculous, the amount of SHIT people believe if heard on the news. Like the moon landing 6

    • @WhoWannaKw
      @WhoWannaKw 4 місяці тому +3

      ​@@moodybugg-2098
      I Definately believe that. There is No Snowden altho there Was an entity tht Was a Whistle Blower... on tht subject. The character portrayed is a job for an actor possibly living out of country but is more likely some merman embedded in a community who never is in the general public as a norm... Or whatever.
      The Original Snowden carries a different name and in my opinion is still working for some part of the behind the scenes "good" military & is protected by a different identity in return for his work. And I Also think he lives here in the US. While the made for TV version is exactly what you described.
      Lk I sd... it's my gut opinion but I honestly feel alot of ppl out there feel the same.
      Sending 💌
      Love 💖Light ✨️ &
      Blessings ✝️
      Take Care

  • @iiii4024
    @iiii4024 Рік тому +1649

    Don’t trust a guy that defends national surveillance. Especially when he says those that care about privacy are a threat & shouldn’t have a say in the topic. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”~ Ben Franklin

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Рік тому +70

      people always say this, but how realistic is it when your peer competitors don't do that? when they don't have to be restrained? especially since the actual real damage to the populace from these surveillance programs is actually close to 0.
      can I ask you when the last time government surveillance negatively affected your life? meta data collected was used against you?

    • @dmc6262
      @dmc6262 Рік тому +50

      Just because Mr Franklin said it, doesn't make it true or at least true all the time. That quote is parroted out ad nauseam without much thought. Second, just because someone disagrees with the refrain, doesn't necessarily make them untrustworthy.

    • @incredible5587
      @incredible5587 Рік тому +32

      he also said the president is the number one customer. that was just weird.

    • @iiii4024
      @iiii4024 Рік тому +78

      @@trinydex I’m pro life & have had multiple friends of mine approached by FBI due to their political beliefs
      One because he was pro life and another because he posted a meme about Jan 6th. It does have real world effects

    • @trinydex
      @trinydex Рік тому +52

      your friend got a visit for posting a meme, on the internet I presume. that has nothing to do with these clandestine programs. that's called open source intelligence.
      your other friend who is pro life didn't get a visit just because they were pro life.

  • @Jrogs4
    @Jrogs4 13 днів тому +1

    This video pops up on my auto play at least 3x a week and I close it immediately

  • @JP-wx6uh
    @JP-wx6uh 2 місяці тому +26

    I am REALLY REALLY glad this guy is no longer involved with strategic nuclear weapons.

    • @RzA201
      @RzA201 25 днів тому

      Could you imagine the Chinese and Russians getting a hold of him a minefield of bull💩.

    • @almas3427
      @almas3427 20 днів тому +2

      He was only involved in stalking and harassing citizens. He was promised a promotion but never got it.

    • @rockydubois6052
      @rockydubois6052 20 днів тому +2

      Oh they have much worse than him. some actually taking pictures and taking notes on the overall sequence for months.

    • @j.kevinhunt147
      @j.kevinhunt147 14 днів тому +3

      If he really ever was. He made so many erroneous statements that I suspect that he's 50% phoney.

  • @ZoroNZara
    @ZoroNZara Рік тому +283

    Nothing like Lex interviewing an Ex CIA agent playing in the background while I sleep. Such a weirdly comforting episode 🤣

    • @anthonygregory5150
      @anthonygregory5150 11 місяців тому +4

      Same

    • @peacedreamerable
      @peacedreamerable 11 місяців тому +3

      I usually fall to sleep listening to Richie Allen Show , but have a new go to for his nights off ,had the amazon guy on first , yes strangely comforting

    • @cathyedwards3861
      @cathyedwards3861 11 місяців тому +6

      I thought I was all alone in my "weirdness"!!! LOL

    • @aSSgoblin88
      @aSSgoblin88 11 місяців тому +1

      yeah maybe a little half lie here and there, while you sleep. ukraine being indebted to america, sure yeah. but the terms of that debt is so generous. 20 years until first payment and no interest accumulated??? that is more of a grant rather than a LOOMING DEBT. and obviously ukranians would prefer debt rather than war and conquest.

    • @LosVanGhost
      @LosVanGhost 11 місяців тому +2

      I did the same unknowingly. 👍🏽

  • @brandonb.9288
    @brandonb.9288 5 місяців тому +455

    This dude is nuts! His whole world view is scary, and that's why the intelligence community is so dangerous.

    • @rebeccab.2270
      @rebeccab.2270 5 місяців тому +29

      Finally some not worshiping this spy. As if he might not be telling the truth on.

    • @richy2258
      @richy2258 4 місяці тому +23

      @@rebeccab.2270people believed it like the gospel at the time. They worship Rogan and Fridman, etc.
      He could not have been more wrong. What a dangerous putz.

    • @dickface9157
      @dickface9157 4 місяці тому

      Right off the bat we learn: Mossad(Israel) will do anything. The CIA are competing for "business" with their "customer"(president) and Trump was a problem because he wasn't interested in the CIAs stock and trade of dirty tricks, so the CIA started going against the president.

    • @rdxdarckstar
      @rdxdarckstar 4 місяці тому +3

      @@richy2258explain your point

    • @chrisknepper5153
      @chrisknepper5153 4 місяці тому +19

      Often time the things we want to be true so badly are absolutely wrong. To the point of disbelieving reality. I am not sure which part you don’t like about what this guy is saying. However, “Russia is winning” is true.
      He is right about Americans not understanding the implications of freedom of speech.
      He is right about the lend lease act.
      He is objectively right about many things that I don’t personally like to hear.

  • @alphapraxis3622
    @alphapraxis3622 11 днів тому +11

    EVERYONE, please know he is NOT ex-CIA. He is a domestic CIA asset. He is designed to look cool and hip and relatable. He is using this persona to convince people that submitting to government agencies relinquishing all privacy is no big deal. Look, He happily does it so why not you. Have you ever met someone who leaves a job the non stop talks about how amazingly wonderful that job was and how every single thing that business does is not only good but so good everyone should LOVE it! Literally, he didn't not only say one thing he saw as a problem with his (claimed ex job), he couldn't say enough about how awesome it is to subjugate to the government! This is scary!!

  • @jongason660
    @jongason660 12 днів тому

    Lex you do a great show. Thankyou Sir.

  • @Heiserton
    @Heiserton Рік тому +329

    As soon as he started talking about the NSA and trading all freedom for a false sense of security, he showed his cards.

  • @ems7500
    @ems7500 Рік тому +402

    It’s amazing how long this man can talk and how open he seems but still… didn’t really tell us anything we couldn’t already find out with a google search. These CIA guys are CIA for life

    • @jtzoltan
      @jtzoltan Рік тому +66

      And his whole speech about the US liking to talk pro democracy, but are not willing to put real boots on the ground when democratic nations are attacked is insane. He used the example of Afghanistan, Ukraine and Hong Kong:
      Afghanistan was a debacle invasion and occupation that was mismanaged and doomed to fail and should never have happened in the first place. Was a massive black budget outlet to pay god knows what interests.
      Hong Kong was China's sphere of influence and part of China. I hate seeing them go down and support their freedom, but it is not for us to dictate.
      Ukraine was something we forced the hands of Russia on as everyone in US State knows that a neutral Ukraine was the only feasible position. When the CIA got involved in the coup that threw out the government in 2014, Russia was going to react militarily. When Ukraine broke the Minsk 2 accords and continued to shell The Donabas and Lugansk People’s Republics and when Ukraine was gearing up to join NATO, then Russia was going to act. Ukraine gives too good a staging position to invade Russia and severl other reasons, it would be like China overthrowing Canada by subterfuge and allying with them bringing in weapons, equipment and soldiers in a military alliance. The US wouldn't stand for it either.
      I love Lex but he talks like the Russians are propagandized when what he described them believing is considerbly more true amd real thn what Westerners know and think about this war.

    • @aono335
      @aono335 Рік тому +27

      This was most likely PR stuff or psyops. You give people just enough to keep their interest and to distinguish doubts.

    • @mst7155
      @mst7155 Рік тому

      To EMS: exactly: the Che Guevara looking like guy talks a lot but nothing real interesting.... Except maybe his theory of Putin winning the war in Ucraine! Is there a scientifical definition of winning???? The common sense can evaluate the winning of the war in terms of human life losses, territorial gains, economical costs,short/ long term benefits...... Assessing that Putin is winning is a bold affirmation not very well supported by empirical data... Of course Putin can grab some territory and declare victory. But how about the economical consequences and the tens of thousands Russian soldiers who died and tens of thousands soldiers wounded and crippled for life..... How about the NATO being much more powerful and united against Putin ???? Putin will claim victory but who will be fooled by one more lie coming out of the mouth of a criminal???????

    • @TheMattj88
      @TheMattj88 Рік тому +13

      “Former” 😂😂

    • @RiaSwiftHealing
      @RiaSwiftHealing Рік тому +2

      @@georgiypotulov23 Felt exactly the opposite about him. Put perceptions ate based on our unexposed reality, not truth.

  • @eldjmasterfreddy4366
    @eldjmasterfreddy4366 19 днів тому +1

    Great Interview.

  • @jessebarnett7608
    @jessebarnett7608 27 днів тому +1

    He has popped lex’s bubble hard

  • @disruptIT
    @disruptIT Рік тому +517

    I have even less trust in the CIA, NSA, FBI etc.. after this. Good Interview.

    • @cupofsadge8359
      @cupofsadge8359 Рік тому +59

      When someone leaves the "Clowns in America" they dont actually leave. They will always be a clown even if not officially on paper. I dream of the day JFK's vision of dissolving them comes true. The small amount of job loss is economically negligible and the benefit to citizens worldwide enormous.

    • @interesting7906
      @interesting7906 Рік тому +1

      @@cupofsadge8359 The clown hairdo is in full display lol... Can you imagine having this guy as a colleague?..making meetings longer with horsesh*t arguments. His prospective on the world is just as expected. Unfortunately, Lex seems to also be a clown man.

    • @arkology_city
      @arkology_city Рік тому +80

      Same. This guy was chosen by the agency to do this show as a PR campaign. They know their reputation has never been lower, and rightfully so.

    • @dirtbagdover1591
      @dirtbagdover1591 Рік тому

      spot on. andrew bustamante's is %100 a shill for the intelligence community. The fact he is ignorant to the intelligence branch of govt. being weaponized via politicians makes me doubt how smart he is or if he ever "left"..

    • @execthegaming
      @execthegaming Рік тому +17

      Yeah, this guy seemed affable enough, but he's a dyed-in-the-wool fed.
      At least when you look at Mike Baker, you know what he is.

  • @MB-to5gl
    @MB-to5gl Рік тому +75

    I discovered Lex about 4-5 weeks ago. I enjoy his down-to-earth, calm demeanour and intelligent banter.

    • @jacksonhunkle2444
      @jacksonhunkle2444 Рік тому

      Yeah, he really has a way of making the system of global capitalist hellscape that is destroying the planet seem like a good friend.

    • @rhino202
      @rhino202 Рік тому +1

      You have a great back log of episodes to listen to. One of the best at playing devil's advocate and asking questions that bring out the best answers from his guests

  • @JesseWaldorf
    @JesseWaldorf 25 днів тому +1

    Please have this guy back! I want to hear what his take is now?

  • @cajuncrackerranch7990
    @cajuncrackerranch7990 Місяць тому

    A great guest and interview Lex even if some direct questions result in covert answers.

  • @welcome33333
    @welcome33333 5 місяців тому +134

    One year later, it has luckily not played out as Andrew predicted. Germany survived winter, the Ukrainian South has not fallen, Odessa is still free and the war has not come to Moldova.

    • @ChamikaraBandaraFilm
      @ChamikaraBandaraFilm 4 місяці тому +4

      But RUS is keep shelling at Odessa harbor.

    • @vanritma4198
      @vanritma4198 4 місяці тому +1

      He might give you some true informations, but i think this is false programming. Still an agent as you say, so who knows what they are about here.

    • @jennifermommy9373
      @jennifermommy9373 4 місяці тому

      Well, it's been a bit since your comment and Ukraine isn't doing well. They are begging for more money. No money? Then credit? There is talk of putting troops on the ground. People are worried about a draft because it's going "so well" for Ukraine. Nah. We are being fed lies about how that war is going. Fortunately for the North American governments, Gaza is getting scary spicy. A great distraction from Ukraine and the taxpayers' money being laundered through these wars for our political elites and their oligarchies and whatever foreign power has money to grease our government or wants grease money from America. Have we all forgotten how many of these nations hate us. Hate our freedom from religion and our freedom to be whatever religion we want. North America isn't a cou try any more it's a corporation, and it's run like a slum lord runs his rental units. Ukraine can't win this war the way zelensky is demanding. The fact that a cease fire, truce, and negotiations are not a priority. Why? All we get is propaganda. Gaza? That war has been raging for thousands of years. Both sides are willing to be rabid, out of control monsters to each other. There is noway that your everyday moron knows enough true information to be cheering for a Jewish genocide or a Palestinian genocide. Hamasaki is using the ppl as a shield while the kill members on the other side. So should Isreal just lay down and let Hamasaki kill them in events like oct 7th? Of course not. At this point, both sides have done horrifying crimes against humanity to each other. For ppl in month America to act so sure, so cavalier about that conflict like Amy of us have a real clue about it or even have a right to tell other countries what to do. Meanwhile North American citizens are going to freeze this winter, starve, lose their homes, etc, and our governments are more worried about their bank accounts than the fact that how they are governing is destroying our nation's. It's slimy and disgusting, and as long as we keep buying the woke narrative the way the politicians want us to things will only get worse. Humans thrive under boundaries, borders, structure, routine, certainties in our life but woke is robbing us of all of that while fixing nothing.

    • @bluesuedeshoes801
      @bluesuedeshoes801 4 місяці тому +4

      True that tbh, but I won't fault his train of thought at the time. Plus Russia has the upper hand rn and Odessa is still in their sights

    • @HBD2U78
      @HBD2U78 4 місяці тому +5

      He was right about Israel

  • @wnstephens
    @wnstephens Рік тому +78

    I really appreciate your calm demeanor, Lex. Tired of hyper, screaming interviewers.
    Also appreciate the intelligent conversation rather than one sided aggression.
    Good job!
    I’m always ready to listen to Mr. Bustamante.
    Thanks!

    • @genesises
      @genesises Рік тому

      @@nicholaskrancher2693 the ones she doesnt like and never listened to 😅 to be fair 90% of the comments are just the same comment made over and over again, specifically that AI joke. i think the sentiment is more important here!

  • @peterpan8147
    @peterpan8147 Місяць тому +2

    This Andrew guy should be in a podium with Edward Snowden.

  • @advanced_code_made_easy
    @advanced_code_made_easy 12 днів тому

    This is one of my favorite ones. He actually broke into your heart here, and that's not why I liked it so much... I just liked the truth from it.
    You do SO well dude by staying as un-biased as possible... In some VERY passionate conversations.
    Kudos to you both!

  • @fighterpilot1112
    @fighterpilot1112 Рік тому +788

    This dudes stance on surveillance is exactly what I'd expect from a dude from the government. I could not trust him less

    • @alteredcatscyprus
      @alteredcatscyprus Рік тому +50

      No wonder we have problems, is what I was thinking. These guys are way out of line.

    • @TheSassygrasshopper
      @TheSassygrasshopper Рік тому +54

      Glad I'm not the only one yall this guy glows so bright I'm getting a tan...

    • @fighterpilot1112
      @fighterpilot1112 Рік тому +39

      @@TheSassygrasshopper he's so good at lying and blending in, yet every single person that watched this interview saw right through him. Including Lex😂

    • @wallrider73
      @wallrider73 Рік тому +56

      Some of his stuff is interesting but he was delivering his fair share of propaganda here. Lex wasn’t convinced.

    • @fburton8
      @fburton8 Рік тому +13

      I think he was saying that Ignorance is Strength. (The ignorance of the masses, of course.)

  • @onetoolfan
    @onetoolfan Рік тому +755

    Dang! This fed is so cool, with his hippie shirt, his bandana, his cool guy long hair and beard! He's one of us! I now completely agree with his warped intepretation of freedom of speech and agree that all communication must be monitored and controlled, due to the threat of propaganda aimed at English speaking Russians. Big brother is actually pretty cool, dunno what we were all so scared of.

    • @hawkeyeplank
      @hawkeyeplank Рік тому +110

      One of us. One of us. One of us.

    • @stevenguevara2184
      @stevenguevara2184 Рік тому +10

      What does His Shirt say? What's it about? Im dying to know

    • @elevenpsy
      @elevenpsy Рік тому +63

      It’s so good to see people on here that have a good sense of awareness

    • @millissa3756
      @millissa3756 Рік тому +22

      eNgLiSh SpEaKiNg RuSsIaNs

    • @joshualeblanc8557
      @joshualeblanc8557 Рік тому

      CIA operatives aren’t feds

  • @funkmanone
    @funkmanone 25 днів тому +1

    What a good little boy. I hope they gave him a treat

  • @charlottemoritz1352
    @charlottemoritz1352 16 днів тому +1

    I was asked to take the MBTI and WPI when applying for a job requiring close partnership with a colleague. They wanted to make sure we would work well together to reduce chance of turnover. We are going on 7 years and married - The interviewer was invited to our wedding :)
    I certainly think there is validity to using the MBTI as a data point for compatibility. The WPI (workplace inventory) that we took in addition to the MBTI determines your workplace style and mentality. Compatibility in working together, whether in careers or in personal lives, is just as valuable and important. I think using the two tests together would offer a far better insight.

  • @Mer0hwl
    @Mer0hwl Рік тому +143

    I applaud Lex for having all kinds of people on the podcast and being so open minded with all of them. The fake ones expose themselves anyway, no confrontational questions needed.

    • @rasmushertzum252
      @rasmushertzum252 Рік тому

      Exactly 😂😂
      'I like criminals. I'm friends with a number of criminals, because the only people who get me are criminals'.
      - Andrew Bustamente, 2022
      ua-cam.com/video/T3FC7qIAGZk/v-deo.html

    • @iLLuminatedWithDren
      @iLLuminatedWithDren Рік тому +2

      Who were some fakes I can watch on the podcast

    • @arandom1024
      @arandom1024 Рік тому +12

      @@iLLuminatedWithDren you just watched one

    • @dragomirivanov7342
      @dragomirivanov7342 Рік тому

      @@arandom1024 So those don't support your narrative are fake ones...Good thought, will lead you long way in the future.

    • @monica1811
      @monica1811 Рік тому +3

      @@AB-wf8ek No. They didn’t say “some other”, they said “some”. He replied, This is one. It IS a start.

  • @alleymae335
    @alleymae335 5 місяців тому +134

    One never stops being a CIA Agent knowing that, makes this interview interesting.

    • @nikolaikrow238
      @nikolaikrow238 4 місяці тому +9

      My thoughts exactly. As if he retired and was like, "Ah, now I can share my own opinion and speak absolute truth without restriction or prejudice and certainly no fear of retribution. Where's the nearest globally popular podcast? Rogan's busy? Get me the next one!" Never trusted Mike Baker either, as much as I like him.

    • @ericinthecircle3631
      @ericinthecircle3631 4 місяці тому +4

      This was my thought by the end of it. Seems like he was trying to promote a positive Image for the CIA.

    • @marinecor23
      @marinecor23 4 місяці тому +7

      Bro anyone who thinks he isn't driving an agency approved narrative is naive. You don't listen to this to glean facts from words. You listen too this to get a rough guess of what the agency is trying to promote or denounce.

    • @nikolaikrow238
      @nikolaikrow238 4 місяці тому +5

      PS: the YT algorithm is consistently playing this video next, no matter how many times I skip and remove from my queue..

    • @earlgrey691
      @earlgrey691 3 місяці тому +1

      And all these agencies have seperate departments if you recall the Lenin bearded,slithery character in the Homeland tv series.MI6-CIA-Mossad all have nefarious insulated 'weapon tips'.

  • @kylearnett192
    @kylearnett192 Місяць тому

    Sounds good... Just go with the flow... Provide what needs provided

  • @Blue_Gourami
    @Blue_Gourami 22 дні тому

    Can confirm, first few days of basic training are like shell shock, then when you leave basic training it’s like leaving a second home.

  • @filipmitf
    @filipmitf Рік тому +166

    This guy is a spokesperson for the CIA 100% xD
    All the horrible CIA shit is actually great hahaha

    • @MTS7140
      @MTS7140 Рік тому +5

      I don't believe at least from what I heard was he ever saying this stuff was great but more like explaining how these things work.

    • @filipmitf
      @filipmitf Рік тому +1

      @@MTS7140 I also thought that until the stuff with Snowden came up and how happy he is withs nsa, cia...

    • @MTS7140
      @MTS7140 Рік тому

      @@filipmitf what he was saying about "happy" was that he would happily give up his and his family's personal privacy which anyone who uses the internet doesn't really Have anyway if it meant keeping American safe from outsider wanting to do harm to us and the country as a whole.

    • @Neimonster
      @Neimonster Рік тому +4

      @@MTS7140 But it doesn't. And I'd rather have my privacy.

    • @tobiasreaper6784
      @tobiasreaper6784 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely

  • @JoshMckinneyShow
    @JoshMckinneyShow Рік тому +958

    There's something I don't quite trust about Andrew. He seemed really sharp and I was loving his dispassionate analysis of situations but as the podcast went on, I began trusting him less and less. So many questions Lex asked, didn't really get answered, and his opinion on NSA mass surveillance and the need for us to feel safe are major red flags.

    • @ZorexZockt
      @ZorexZockt Рік тому +207

      Clearly part of CIAs PR department

    • @andrewgusak123ua
      @andrewgusak123ua Рік тому +103

      The whole Ukraine segment on his part was a total bs.

    • @pwilliams3600
      @pwilliams3600 Рік тому

      Exactly. His NSA defense was...something. We are seeing in real time what an out of control FBI, DOJ and likely NSA can do. It doesn't require a whole new "secret police, secret court", etc. This guy is either a fanboi or part of the PR effort.

    • @mofayer
      @mofayer Рік тому

      @@andrewgusak123ua are you aware of your obvious bias given you have UA in name and UA flag? because if you did you would've known that your opinion on this matter is worth nothing.

    • @dimebucker2
      @dimebucker2 Рік тому +49

      I had exactly the same feeling

  • @milakowalski4539
    @milakowalski4539 20 днів тому

    Andrew is realy smart, loved it.

  • @kirstenbrogan5958
    @kirstenbrogan5958 Місяць тому +1

    Enjpy the interviewsc Lex, it's nice to see more of your humerus side.

  • @uasiddiq
    @uasiddiq Рік тому +529

    Andrew was mostly consistent except when he said he was okay with a surveillance state without the permission of Congress...
    "I'm okay with the NSA having all my passwords for that safety." He kept speaking of empirical evidence. There's no empirical evidence that the mass surveillance saved any lives and that the mass surveillance would have stopped previous attacks like 9/11. Snowden may be a blip, but his reasoning was far more sound than the way Andrew made it seem in this interview.

    • @elevenpsy
      @elevenpsy Рік тому

      It is Andrew’s job to talk Snowden down like he was a “blip” and nothing more. This is a PR campaign for the CIA.

    • @traceyjohnson7521
      @traceyjohnson7521 Рік тому +28

      Agreed.

    • @ErnestCarroll
      @ErnestCarroll Рік тому +16

      He was speaking of “empirical” evidence

    • @jakeedwards1668
      @jakeedwards1668 Рік тому +6

      Good point lad

    • @neptunejoo
      @neptunejoo Рік тому

      Agreed. The more I hear him talking the more I am convinced the CIA is an evil organisation as a whole.

  • @BlowingbytheOz
    @BlowingbytheOz Рік тому +285

    They send this guy to make the CIA seem like “normal” people 🤣

    • @GaminHasard
      @GaminHasard Рік тому +3

      He tells us that a guy that looks like him does not stand out and is trusted to be in a class role.

    • @luciferlight243
      @luciferlight243 Рік тому +19

      It’s the bandana lowers your guard

    • @asdflkjohn
      @asdflkjohn Рік тому +4

      That what he literally says in the interview too. Nice catch

    • @GaminHasard
      @GaminHasard Рік тому

      @@asdflkjohn haha yeah i was like....wait a minute......aren;t you doing this right now..... hmmmmmz.z.. HMMMMMZZZ

    • @mikeuptegrove
      @mikeuptegrove Рік тому

      Exactly! It’s all a scripted PR stunt whenever a spies goes public. They’re all criminal POS! Period.

  • @roseannemain9957
    @roseannemain9957 2 місяці тому +2

    It is interesting trying to work out who the narrative is for and who it is that Andrew is trying to convince when he speaks. Is it him reinforcing himself to ensure he keeps within the boundary of the lines he operates within. Or is it Lex, or is it everyone else, or is it a cover, or what. There are so many facets to it, like watching the various multiple identities of a disordered personality. Love it.

    • @user-be6ye6cp3s
      @user-be6ye6cp3s 2 місяці тому

      Lex a former Soviet citizen who left the country. And such people, as a rule, have a distorted understanding of Russia. And they are not telling the truth about her. We have such a meme. Valeria Novodvorskaya. She is a professional oppositionist. With every government, she is against the government. Therefore, former Russian citizens cannot be trusted about Russia. They will lie.

    • @TEKim-lk6op
      @TEKim-lk6op 2 місяці тому

      Dude never left CIA. He just got the PR job for CIA.

  • @Bedrock33783
    @Bedrock33783 10 днів тому

    Lex you have told me a lot I never click on your videos but fall asleep listening to something else and end up listening to you great work on hacking UA-cam. I do enjoy your content though thank you

  • @whodatdere2415
    @whodatdere2415 Рік тому +63

    I don’t ever remember listening this intently to any podcast or discussion before. I loved the show Lex. It was great listening to you and Andrew.

  • @execsapp9587
    @execsapp9587 Рік тому +182

    Lex: "so, the guy here sitting quietly is the one in control?"
    Person who just got done telling you they've been trained in the art of interrogation, and has been talking the entire time in complete control of what he wants to or not talk about: "oh absolutely"

    • @hazyhunt9493
      @hazyhunt9493 Рік тому +5

      Gold comment

    • @nemovi5379
      @nemovi5379 Рік тому

      Yep, 'the CIA doesn't have stuff for us to do as a family with a kid'
      Sure they don't.
      I'm sure you are the first agent to ever have a family.
      I'm sure they are just willing to let 2 very experienced field agents, retire, instead of giving them another long term assignment
      'oh yea, I was CIA, ask me anything.
      JFK? Let me give a SUPER precise answer that leaves lots of room for the truth'
      Did anyone else notice how his tone, body language, and cadence changed when Lex changed from talking about generalities to talking about the stuff the CIA is accused of being in bed with?
      You could hear it in his voice and see it in his eyes that he was desperate to say the right thing the right way.
      I'll finish with;
      Lex- I've always wondered, if the CIA ever showed up and interviewed me, would I know about it?
      CIA operative - No Lex, no you wouldn't. We're just that good. 😐
      As he literally sits there and does a passive interview.
      Ok I lied, one more thing.
      The line about, 'the person asking questions has all the power in a conversation ' total bullshit.
      This guy gets a B+ overall.
      Still an obvious glowie. Retired my ass. 😂

    • @theophrastusvonhoenheim4022
      @theophrastusvonhoenheim4022 Рік тому +5

      This isn't an interrogation ya ding dong

    • @be12
      @be12 Рік тому +5

      @@theophrastusvonhoenheim4022 Try not thinking with yours. Ding dong.

    • @trevorthetherapist4200
      @trevorthetherapist4200 Рік тому +1

      Check out the Congressional hearings with FBI Direction Christopher Wray or Andy McCabe a few years back. Congress exercises a degree of control because Wray and McCabe have to show up and answer questions even thought the answers are all lies. Brian C Turner is going to be the FBI Director in the next Democratic Administration by the way. Check out what happened to Steve Bannon when you decide you will not answer questions and ignore subpoenas.

  • @maxdog1299
    @maxdog1299 Місяць тому

    Wow!! Self respect man
    What a great person

  • @Skyboub73
    @Skyboub73 16 днів тому

    What DGSE ???? I would not have expected this one :) Thank you Lex !

  • @LilDragon247
    @LilDragon247 Рік тому +24

    His point of view on secrecy is exactly what I would expect to hear from a CIA operative

    • @duganrocks100
      @duganrocks100 Рік тому +1

      Makes no sense lmao. Bias as hell. Seems like a smart guy though

  • @ShireleneBane-mc7ex
    @ShireleneBane-mc7ex 5 місяців тому +32

    I always enjoy your interviews mostly because I enjoy your questions and how calmly you ask your questions let your guests talk
    I also appreciate your compassion

  • @thedandyhighwayman
    @thedandyhighwayman Місяць тому +5

    Probably the longest recruitment ad ever.

    • @almas3427
      @almas3427 20 днів тому

      Except gang stalking isn’t not appealing to most

  • @davidmckayii752
    @davidmckayii752 19 днів тому

    Great and educational podcast, if u want an inside and discretionary view of intelligence agency, it's good.

  • @CSTam-vy7bp
    @CSTam-vy7bp Рік тому +74

    This was by far the longest podcast I have ever sat through ... not a single yawn throughout!😀

    • @chito127
      @chito127 Рік тому

      I saved it and listened when I could...then straight through the last 2 hours. A really good dialog.

    • @RodrigoOswego
      @RodrigoOswego Рік тому

      The Donald Hoffman episode was better imo.

    • @CSTam-vy7bp
      @CSTam-vy7bp Рік тому

      @@RodrigoOswego will check that out.

  • @ToriZealot
    @ToriZealot Рік тому +408

    Looking at Assange, it seems a wise decision for Snowden to go to a "enemy state"

    • @conradthediscoviking
      @conradthediscoviking Рік тому +30

      Sad but true 😔

    • @robertjulesyoung9994
      @robertjulesyoung9994 Рік тому +56

      this guy wouldn't be able to even breath without permission. this podcast is bs.

    • @lars337
      @lars337 Рік тому +20

      also, he asked for asylum in germany but was denied. that is the real sad thing.

    • @chito127
      @chito127 Рік тому +25

      @@robertjulesyoung9994 It may be a recruitment outreach for the CIA. Bustament is really sharp.

    • @stereoreviewx
      @stereoreviewx Рік тому +8

      Snowden is not in a maximum security prison why because he’s in Russia what would you do the answer is obvious

  • @mrsaturn1792
    @mrsaturn1792 19 днів тому +2

    Red flag right away, an interview with a CIA agent lol

  • @enoughalready45
    @enoughalready45 17 днів тому

    Gives a whole new meaning to the Pittsburgh “Stealers”

  • @christinecarmichael3253
    @christinecarmichael3253 Рік тому +42

    This really gave me a lot to think about . Wished I could have seen more of Andrews face during the asking if questions. It’s was
    Fascinating .

  • @citizen1130
    @citizen1130 Рік тому +60

    Lex is becoming my favorite podcast host. No wonder his show is now in top 10 on Spotify. His positive attitude and great ability to ask amazing questions makes everyone appreciate him.

    • @Qthepug
      @Qthepug Рік тому +4

      Lex pushes back politely and in the occasions that time will tell so far he has been proven to be the one who sees things clearly. It seems the war in Ukraine is yet another example. This interview also demonstrates that a persons self-confidence isn’t a gage for their accuracy, correctness or ability to predict outcomes.

    • @hawkbartril3016
      @hawkbartril3016 Рік тому

      Must say I gave up on him after he said he was the best. Wow both these guys are sick

  • @jarvismckenzie776
    @jarvismckenzie776 Місяць тому +1

    I'm doubting this guy some.. but, hey - I'm compelled enough to listen to the entire conversation.

  • @ComeAlivewithMK
    @ComeAlivewithMK 23 дні тому +1

    This is a fascinating interview!!! Love it!! Great job!!!!❤❤❤❤

    • @almas3427
      @almas3427 20 днів тому

      Not fascinating unless you have bird brain

  • @JCOwens-zq6fd
    @JCOwens-zq6fd Рік тому +602

    This guy has been trained well that's for sure. He delivered all of that like a pro. Almost no signs of deception or anything....almost.

    • @chantzarcher4807
      @chantzarcher4807 Рік тому

      As if you can really believe anything this guy says….he is from the govt…..or at least just an actor for the govt….saying scripted shit in a convincing way

    • @LaRoucheisright
      @LaRoucheisright Рік тому +30

      You're referring to Fridman right?

    • @yqisq6966
      @yqisq6966 Рік тому

      Yep real masters of deception always hide lies within the truth ;)

    • @TheFreddieFoo
      @TheFreddieFoo Рік тому +40

      yeah yeah, you're an expert at spotting spies! you must be a child prodigy too! Can you enlighten us how you figured it all out, what are the tells??

    • @thegizmologist8325
      @thegizmologist8325 Рік тому

      @@TheFreddieFoo The fact that he's a commie and from the CIA.

  • @cloudbloom
    @cloudbloom Рік тому +58

    Only 45 min in so far and this has been fascinating. Love your podcast lex thank you for all you do

  • @Torontogal777
    @Torontogal777 2 місяці тому

    FASCINATING! Also fascinating that Rex Freeman has a PHD; I didn’t know this.