I am VERY thankful that they finally made Berserker a viable subclass! The Exhaustion cost of Frenzy made it the only subclass that actively hurt the character for using their ability instead of it just being situational or underpowered. Thank you very much!
It still had a stacking debuff of -1 on attack rolls every time you used a frenzy bonus attack, so that you'd get less and less accurate in a single encounter. Much more forgiving of course.
Yup - if you want it to make sense in a less meme-focused way, it could be hiding by holding yourself in an impossibly athletic position, supporting your body near the ceiling by pressing against two close walls, or something like that.
@@mr.e822I think you should probably explain these not with physical feats, at least the stealth one. They keep putting emphasis on "primal power", just think of the Barb going full primal instinct hunter/gatherer mode, hiding his presence while stalking his prey. I know this sounds more like Ranger, but they're both in touch with nature so you're bound to have some overlap.
@@AlphaOmega08922 This is true, although it is nice to have a rule you can point towards without asking your DM for permission. A great DM will look for creative uses of abilities like that, but not everyone has a great DM. This puts it in the hands of the player, and makes it something they have, not something they have to hope they are granted.
People need to realize that the new “Rage” isn’t just “Rage” anymore. It’s not the barbarian getting mad. It’s the barbarian manifesting otherworldly power. Each barbarian can choose how to manifest it. That is the rebranding. They are just keeping the same name to not confuse players. The name should just be called “Primal Transformation” or something like that etc etc. Just an FYI for everyone complaining that it doesn’t make sense.
I think what is confusing is calling it Primal power when you have Zealot Barbarians that clearly are not getting their power from a Primal source. Now that they have divided magical forces into Arcane, Divine and Primal it makes it more confusing.
@T0beyeus They should call it a primal trance, or just a trance. It's a good way to convey that they are in an other worldly state of mind. Half their mind being there own while the other half is opened up, taken over and empowered by other forces
They need to 1) make Intimidation usable with either STR or CHA for all characters 2) make Medicine an INT skill. WIS is too loaded with benefits, and Clerics/Druids/Rangers don’t need to know medicine, they have healing magic.
@@brilobox2 In 2014 players handbook, there was optional rules to use different ability scores if it made sense in the situation. Personally, I did exactly what you're describing in my home games
mine will be so late its not even going to show up, the Artificer has been left out of the upgrads so Ill need to wait for a whole other book to be done
@@mattheusfinco Power wise, they absolutely do not need buffs. But they don't have a set of unique and cool features that represent the theme of a Ranger, the master hunter of a supernatural world
@@davidsantos1299 Agree. They are formidable in practice. Yet they don't have a unique central theme to build off of, like Rage, as mentioned in this video. Rangers are mostly flawed because they are the ultimate hybrid class. What do you have to build off of? Favored Enemy, Deft Explorer? It's so hard to really pin down a feature to define a class that's "pretty good at everything".
I think they specified in the UA materials that every time you level up you get something. That way you don't have the levels block having a bunch of blanks like they did before for some classes
Only about 1% of players run much above 10th save for one shots. Even then that is likely not more than another 1%. Not sure high level stuff should ever be a priority
@@SophiaAphrodite I have no idea what percent play at double digit levels, but as someone who does I am glad they paid some attention to higher levels.
I've always wanted to play a Barbarian in THEORY but when I tried to sit down and come up with a fun build for the concept I wanted I would always just be disappointed. I love love LOVE this new Barb.
So the Zealot's "Rage of the Gods" feature...does it still allow you to fight even if you hit 0 or "die" like the original "Rage Beyond Death"? I kind of still want to be too angry to die. All the othe stuff sounds cool but I hope this wasn't taken away.
Well, even if they don't have that, the Barbarian base class had that with their "Drop to zero, con save, back up" ability. I actually wouldn't be too sad if Zealot lost it, just because the stacking of them could be a little hard to parse.
It was removed during UA and I assume it has not returned. I believe this choice was made because it was not a really well implemented ability. Sure, it might have been fun for the barbarian but it made them maybe a bit too unreasonable to deal with, especially with a now 10 minute rage. The wording of "instead" in the preview heavily implies it is gone.
@@NarokhSleep. That's all it takes to completely negate Rage Beyond Death regardless of the duration. This feature was so well liked people were willing to tolerate all the underwhelming stuff till level 14. Removing this is a massive letdown.
About 17 minutes in you say something that isn't quite accurate. You claim that people thought they had to choose the same animal totems in the original version of Path of the Totem Warrior because they saw the same animals reappearing in each feature. While this is true, it leaves out the fact that the subclass description discourages choosing different animals, saying it is very rare for someone to have multiple types of totem animals. It said that you *could* use multiple, but to me it heavily implied that you shouldn't without consulting your DM.
@@billyjoemaurillo929 its every time they gain a fighter level, instead of every time they get an ASI. One Weapon Mastery can be swapped on a long rest, like practicing weapon drills. Fighting Styles should probably require more than a few hours of practice and a sleep to change.
I hope you still kept the being-revived-for-free part of Warrior of the Gods, even if you added other stuff. It wasn't much more than a ribbon feature in terms of how often it would be useful in most games, but it was incredibly thematic and flavourful.
Thats what pulled me to make one and write a history for the character based around that. If its outright removed then you may as well play as a paladin.
In terms of game design, I can't pretend I like the Primal Knowledge allowing the Barbarian to Rage to use **Persuasion** (emphasis added due to some misreading) and Strength in any social situation. I would be OK with it *if* was to convince folks in combat, like Persuasion to exert leadership, give morale, etc. My reasons are obvious : some characters may be built to be social/charismatic, let them shine, rather than allow a Barb with 18 Str attempt his own non-combat Persuasion. Compare that with a Fighter who wants to play a leader: the Barb will oddly be better at Persuasion, pretty much for free (well, while Raging only), while that Fighter will invest in Charisma, a proper subclass, etc. - I am of course *not* talking about Intimidation, which is fine. Barbs could have a permanent feature to Intimidate with Str and I would be fine with that. I am also ok with Acrobatics using Str while Raging in combat or Persuasion with Str in combat to lead NPC allies in a charge.
@@PedroHISilva The revision here includes Persuasion, in any situation, as long as the Barbarian burns one Rage. If I DM, I would moderate that to a situation where Raging makes sense, so with some form of conflict, which could include a social conflict (pre-combat if you will, that might even avoid combat).
"Well while Raging only" is a massive understatement here. Barbarians do not want to use their rages if they don't have to. If you feel like a Barbarian at your table is using this feature "for free" I'd challenge you to run more encounters per day because burning a rage should never feel free for a Barbarian player. Also, while some players do build their character to be social, there's also like every warlock who gets to be super good in social encounters just for playing a warlock. I don't see this as anything different other than it being way more limited due to the rage requirement.
I actually really like how this feature works: It gives a risk for expending a use of your rage for a better roll elsewhere; Do you risk potentially not having a rage for the next combat encounter just to get a better price on that magic axe? Also, on the DM side of things, I think that using Strength for some checks would lead to different results failure or success; Sure, you managed to persuade the shopkeeper to lower their price on the item, but in doings so, you’ve scared them so badly that they never want you to come back to the shop and will call the guards if you attempt to do so.
I just realized the bonus action to maintain rage wasn’t actually a thing that existed already. I think it misread the ‘you can end the rage as a bonus action’ part as a being part of the previous sentence, and so have always allowed barbarians to ‘seethe’ as a bonus action. Good to know it’s official now
Thanks Wizards cost, all your Pre-order bonuses are for the USA only leaving us in the rest of the world to pay more and not even get the digi bonuses. thanks for showing the love to your players from around the world.
@@SwiftBandit23I mean they have every right to be upset. Personally I preordered, but I honestly agree, it’s stupid. It should be accessible the same around the world in the same manner regardless of where you are. I think they’d get more money that way, and ultimately it’s be good for the company as a whole, since they can then say that it’s a game meant for the world to enjoy.
@@SwiftBandit23And telling them to leave the game for another is not the way to go about it. It doesn't change the problems that exist, it actually worsens them. Don't gatekeep the game when people have legitimate concerns, it makes the rest of the fan base look bad. If you're someone who thinks that D&D is only for one group of people, then you're not welcome in this Fandom. It's meant for everyone, and I wish their business practices would reflect that. But don't hate on someone for legitimate concerns
Primal Knowledge is basically getting so frustrated when you can't solve a math problem that you force the universe to just tell you the god damned answer.
I Reread Primal Knowledge on the UA and I really want to know how you Rage Sneak. Least Persuasion isn't on the list, I want to Rage Seduce the barmaid ain't right.
@lazerrhino You aren't but a barbarian is. Strength isn't just flexing but also your ability to stop a maul or hammer. Also muscle definitely helps resist damage, wether it be blunt or slashing damage
Wish they visited Path of the Beast for this new system that uses rage outside of combat. Lot of options they could of added to further this within the theme that also isn't as aggressive as growing claws/tail/mandible.
It sounds like the overriding philosophy for the 2024 Rules is "As long as the Players are having fun, it's good," which is great... Sadistic RAW DMs everywhere will now be pushing Homebrew Rules from AD&D with a Tomb of Horror's flavor.
@@Creepernom My DM is actually good and fair. I was referring to all of the RAW DMs on Reddit or some of the DM moderators on D&D Beyond Discord who are Pedant Trolls,
I love having all of those choices, in the “Totem Warrior” the new Wildheart. The more options the better. I just hope that the Elk with the increased mobility features, is still an option. That one is my favorite. Please Wotc have those options still be able to be chosen!
Is it bad that I’m not crazy upset by any of the new changes I’ve seen? Like, I get the vibe from the comments that I should be angry and up in arms, but I’m not.
I really like the little clarification for the zealot barbarian that they need not necessarily worship and particular god, or gods in general and can instead be linked to a different kind of divine source. I am currently playing a zealot barbarian who actually dislikes so many people's blind following of gods and instead draws power from the belief in his own potential.
So if I get this right, while you are raging you can use strength for persuasion or intimidation (and a few others) but rage also gives you advantage on strength checks. So barbarian can actually be a party face 😮. Probably not as good as charisma based classes but still, that's pretty cool
Honestly, besides being mechanically consistent (hey, bonus action to start rage, bonus action to maintain rage) it even makes narrative sense, because as you start using your bonus action for utility again (you know, not fighting) your character comes closer back to reality and less consumed by the Rage 🤔
Agree. It’s like turning on cheat codes. I think they are playing into a juvenile expectation to just win all the time. Tempted to not allow the class, frankly.
This could've been the opportunity to make Artificers cool. But looks like they'll be left behind. Especially since all other classes are free on DnD beyond. So that's another barrier to entry
I really hope the zelott still has the feature that makes it easier to resurrect. I really like the theme that this person is a warrior that can basically be summoned without cost and is basically a summon. Please please please don't touch that
@@barcster2003 I saw that, but it seems like he said it was replacing it. If that is gone, I'd be down to to tell a player they can swap it back cause it's just so cool thematically
Barbarian was my first Class playing DnD The new Berserker Subclass sounds like the Subclass I really wanted. But the exhaustion condition made me to pick an other subclass
Anyone else feel like Primal Knowledge sucks? You can use it on Acrobatics, Intimidation, Perception, Stealth, or Survival. You get to use strength for the check and since you are raging, you get advantage. Why does it use up a rage though? That cost is too high to be worth it. You can maintain a rage for 10 minutes, but how many of these checks will you make in a 10 minute span? I'd say you would be lucky to get 3 checks. You probably aren't chaining stealth checks. Once you try to intimidate someone, you'll either get what you need or you won't be allowed to try again. You usually won't be hiven multiple perception or survival checks in 10 minutes. And the chance of you neesing multiple Acrobatics checks in 10 minutes is low. Barbs shouldn't have to spend their combat resources to have any out of combat use, because then they won't be useful in combat (without rages) and are basically just a worse fighter. Not being able to rage in combat also locks you out of most of your subclass features most times. Reckless attack is hard to justify most times without rage resistance.
As good as many of these changes seem, I'm still left a bit concerned. I'd designed a minotaur zealot for our next campaign, but 1) I'm worried that the Weapon Mastery stuff will reduce the impact of his racial traits and 2) I specifically made choices to tilt him more toward offense than defense because of the "too ornery to die" capstone, but now that's gone. 🙁 I guess I'll have to go back to the drawing board once the official rules are published, and he may not make it through the transformation.
Brutal Strike is still meh. 9 times out of 10, I'd rather just hit with advantage instead of risking a miss and wasting an attack. Especially if I'm still taking disadvantage to my ac. Brutal Strike should have just been an extra weapon damage dice once per round. This would have nowhere near broken the game for a level 9 character.
A little disappointed Brutal Strike- as it appeared in UA -is going in cause it feels like it's immediately stepping on the toes of the Weapon Mastery mechanics that were introduced right alongside them. I get that they can be stacked with the Weapon Mastery mechs, like Battle Master's tactical maneuvers, but it feels like there's a bit of an excessive overlap here comparatively.
I vehemently opposed the changes to the zealot during the playtest and am so sad to see my favorite abilities changed. I don’t really care for flying. If I wanted to fly I’d create a character able to fly. It’s not even something I can voluntarily do. It may have been easier for Warrior of the gods but it felt like the gods weren’t ready for you to die so they helped other players raise you from the clutches of death to complete your mission. Instead it’s just essentially an extra healing potion if it even helps and you don’t outright die. The flavor of those now feels so meh. With the other abilities of Rage of the Gods what was said was so vague.
I cant even watch this i am so upset about the smite nerf. i Just want nothing to do with the "new" players hand book they have just soured me on this product. I cant imagine taking power and fun away form my players.
Geez they better be altering the Monster Manual pretty heavily. Every class is getting buffed to OP levels. Here’s hoping every single encounter isnt going to be over in one round.
I am hoping Call Emotions get a clause for Rage. It feels wrong that is no longer can be used to counter a Rage by pausing combat for a round. How is a barbarian able to use a bonus action to maintain rage when can't feel that rage?
i am concerned that the path of the ancestral guardian wasn't mentioned here, same with many of the wizard subclasses, ect, i do hope its just a matter of them not haveing time to touch on those classes in these videos and not that the subclasses not mentioned have simply been dropped
Not sure I'm on board with the explanation given with Primal Knowledge. Maybe seeing the curated list of skills will change my mind, but for now it seems a little shoe-horned in there.
That ability to use strength for other abilities will make my homebrew Path of the Hulking Transformation feature difficult. It replaces all Strength checks and attacks with INT.
So as someone who played a Guild artisan background Swift stride shifter Elk totem barbarian With mobility and poke arm master feats (season or two away from piercer) I'm listening and so far I hear "Well we didn't put enough shills in" Insight, persuasion, Athletics, survival, stealth and animal handler were not enough skills? Not enough bonus actions (shifter, rage, bonus attack, ) Bye to my 3D10/3d4 critical with advantage... Hello slowing a guy who already can't catch me? Still overland travel speed for the party or acrobats in town/dungeon as a wild heart? I feel I'm losing my ability to be "the fastest dwarf around", the fastest moving bowerman, and the staby staby withdraw.
Boo. Intimidate should be decoupled from ability checks. I can imagine Intimidate for any ability score. Strength and Charisma are obvious, but I could make a Dex Intimidate, like that guy who made a sword display in the Indiana Jones movie (sure, he failed that check), or an Intelligence Intimidate to scare some bureaucrat with your Rules Fu, Wisdom Intimidate to get insight into what scares your enemies, or Constitution Intimidate when someone tortures you and you don't break so hard you unnerve your torturer.
Really fun new features. Amazing job, but me as a DM is looking forward to the new monster book to counter some of all this. As of now it seems most of the dangers of being an adventurer is gone. Might be that I have played since 1983, times where different. Love your work and I will keep reading and listening.
As a barbarian I appreciate this video since my INT is too low to read the book
I am VERY thankful that they finally made Berserker a viable subclass! The Exhaustion cost of Frenzy made it the only subclass that actively hurt the character for using their ability instead of it just being situational or underpowered. Thank you very much!
I think they got rid of that in baldurs gate. or maybe it was there and i never noticed because berserker is very good in that game
@@lazerrhino they got rid of the debuff in baldur's gate
It still had a stacking debuff of -1 on attack rolls every time you used a frenzy bonus attack, so that you'd get less and less accurate in a single encounter. Much more forgiving of course.
@@lazerrhino baldurs gate is a third party game, it's not made by the people who make dnd
"YOU DON'T SEE GROG!" Can now be mechanically viable.
Yup - if you want it to make sense in a less meme-focused way, it could be hiding by holding yourself in an impossibly athletic position, supporting your body near the ceiling by pressing against two close walls, or something like that.
horrifying
@@mr.e822I think you should probably explain these not with physical feats, at least the stealth one. They keep putting emphasis on "primal power", just think of the Barb going full primal instinct hunter/gatherer mode, hiding his presence while stalking his prey. I know this sounds more like Ranger, but they're both in touch with nature so you're bound to have some overlap.
@@AlphaOmega08922 This is true, although it is nice to have a rule you can point towards without asking your DM for permission. A great DM will look for creative uses of abilities like that, but not everyone has a great DM. This puts it in the hands of the player, and makes it something they have, not something they have to hope they are granted.
A picture of more being the Batman stare.
They've turned barb into "I unga therefore I bunga." and I love it.
People need to realize that the new “Rage” isn’t just “Rage” anymore. It’s not the barbarian getting mad. It’s the barbarian manifesting otherworldly power. Each barbarian can choose how to manifest it. That is the rebranding. They are just keeping the same name to not confuse players. The name should just be called “Primal Transformation” or something like that etc etc. Just an FYI for everyone complaining that it doesn’t make sense.
I think what is confusing is calling it Primal power when you have Zealot Barbarians that clearly are not getting their power from a Primal source. Now that they have divided magical forces into Arcane, Divine and Primal it makes it more confusing.
@@T0beyeus The barbarians base powers are still primal, even if it gains further powers from a divine source
@T0beyeus They should call it a primal trance, or just a trance. It's a good way to convey that they are in an other worldly state of mind. Half their mind being there own while the other half is opened up, taken over and empowered by other forces
That's how I tended to play it anyway. My Zealot Barbarian was more in a trance and not a screaming madman
Primal Rage could work
"I would like to rage."
Barbarian: That's my secret. I'm always ra
DM: You're raging. You can't talk.
Barbarian: RAAA MAAA SAACRAAA! AM AAAWAAA RAJAAAAA!
😂 Yes!!!
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@@zippomage😂
I read this in Grog Strongjaw
Primal Knowledge finally lets you play the Barbrogue slasher villain of your dreams
oh my god that's such perfect flavor for a barb. Never dying, resistant to attacks, now stealthy as well?
I'm gonna make a Jason Voorhees Barbarian with high Athletics for grappling and high Stealth. I'll terrorize the next bandits with a machete lol
@@evillaughinthebackground5732love it. I hear the music now …
You can still do that
Just go like 5 bear totem barb 15 rogue (swashbuckler) and go brrrrr
literally just a serial killer lol
Considering the Great Old One Warlock, Dance Bard, and Assassin Rogue have been willingly 'leaked' to UA-camrs, my guess is that those three are next.
The World Tree Barbarian is also out there prior to this too
which youtubers
@@dreamusmenus3759I know Mark "Sherlock" Hulmes has covered the GOOlock
@@dreamusmenus3759 I believe it was the Dungeon Dudes.
Ginni Di made a video on the Dance Bard
I think of rage strength persuasion being like the anime protagonist angrily explaining their ideals while every else is shocked by their passion
This is giving me Gabriel Seth vibes from Warhammer 40K; and I am HERE for it!
They need to 1) make Intimidation usable with either STR or CHA for all characters
2) make Medicine an INT skill. WIS is too loaded with benefits, and Clerics/Druids/Rangers don’t need to know medicine, they have healing magic.
@@brilobox2 In 2014 players handbook, there was optional rules to use different ability scores if it made sense in the situation. Personally, I did exactly what you're describing in my home games
Anyone else feel like their favourite class will be last
Yes, my class will be the last one.
im just excited to see how they fix rangers and monks
Yes, I am expecting Warlock to be last or very close to it.
@@StoneCardinal45 yeah me too
mine will be so late its not even going to show up, the Artificer has been left out of the upgrads so Ill need to wait for a whole other book to be done
Considering that it's been stated that they had the most amoung of changes alongside the Fighter... please release the Ranger video soon.
ranger tbh does not need even more buffs, they have spetacular spellcasting and a lot of optional features from the new books
@@mattheusfinco Power wise, they absolutely do not need buffs. But they don't have a set of unique and cool features that represent the theme of a Ranger, the master hunter of a supernatural world
@@mattheusfinco Theyre strong but the buffs were more of a bandaid fix, they still need to be rebuilt from the ground up.
@@davidsantos1299 Agree. They are formidable in practice. Yet they don't have a unique central theme to build off of, like Rage, as mentioned in this video. Rangers are mostly flawed because they are the ultimate hybrid class. What do you have to build off of? Favored Enemy, Deft Explorer? It's so hard to really pin down a feature to define a class that's "pretty good at everything".
Rogue I believe is next. I have no idea when Ranger will come
Path of the World Tree barbarians should 100% be able to just banish themself and an enemy to have a 1-on-1 duel on the branches of the world tree
I love the barbarian...under level 6 or 7 .. hope they have built in more things for it to do so players what to play barbs to 20th level
I think they specified in the UA materials that every time you level up you get something. That way you don't have the levels block having a bunch of blanks like they did before for some classes
Only about 1% of players run much above 10th save for one shots. Even then that is likely not more than another 1%. Not sure high level stuff should ever be a priority
They definitely deal amazing damage at all levels in the ua so they're probably in much better shape. We won't know for sure until the book comes out
The playtest dropped unlimited Rages at level 20, so I'm hoping they know better.
@@SophiaAphrodite I have no idea what percent play at double digit levels, but as someone who does I am glad they paid some attention to higher levels.
The Karen Barbarian who Rages in stores, maintains it with their bonus action, and uses Strength to "speak with the manager" 😂
The problem with that is that nobody is actually persuaded by Karens.
@@tofubaba1315 They just need a higher Strength 😉
Allows them to avoid minions and get to bosses.
@@Poduma_ that just means Karens are using intimidation, not persuasion
Looks like they clarified brutal strike advantage stacking.
what did they say?
Sap weapon property is a good choice for barbarians. It removes opponent advantage with a hit while recklessly attacking.
I don’t think any two handed weapons get sap unfortunately
@brannenpfister2579 though with changes to brutal critical choosing other weapons than greataxe is viable now
@@brannenpfister2579 No, but versatile ones do. Longsword and War Pick, from the playtest, if memory serves.
@@ad9aggie correct. You’re trading offense for defense. 1d10 vs d12/2d6
@@brannenpfister2579 Yep, an average decrease of 1/1.5 HP per hit. Not a huge sacrifice.
Excited to see the final version of Brutal Strikes!
Warlocks together we can summon our class video by collectively beseeching our patrons to release the video 🙌🏾 *summoning warlock video*
I have never wanted to play a barbarian. I now want to play a barbarian.
It's been a sub-class for so long and is finally powerful enough to knock a stupid Fighter out of the park.
I've always wanted to play a Barbarian in THEORY but when I tried to sit down and come up with a fun build for the concept I wanted I would always just be disappointed. I love love LOVE this new Barb.
So the Zealot's "Rage of the Gods" feature...does it still allow you to fight even if you hit 0 or "die" like the original "Rage Beyond Death"? I kind of still want to be too angry to die. All the othe stuff sounds cool but I hope this wasn't taken away.
This was my concern also, the zealot is supposed to be temporarily immortal. Or as you say to angry to die
fully agree. This is the only change I didn't like. The concept of not even death can stop you is way too cool to be removed.
Well, even if they don't have that, the Barbarian base class had that with their "Drop to zero, con save, back up" ability. I actually wouldn't be too sad if Zealot lost it, just because the stacking of them could be a little hard to parse.
It was removed during UA and I assume it has not returned. I believe this choice was made because it was not a really well implemented ability. Sure, it might have been fun for the barbarian but it made them maybe a bit too unreasonable to deal with, especially with a now 10 minute rage.
The wording of "instead" in the preview heavily implies it is gone.
@@NarokhSleep. That's all it takes to completely negate Rage Beyond Death regardless of the duration.
This feature was so well liked people were willing to tolerate all the underwhelming stuff till level 14. Removing this is a massive letdown.
I love how Path of the World Tree just lets you yeet people all over the battlefield- very nice.
~_~
About 17 minutes in you say something that isn't quite accurate. You claim that people thought they had to choose the same animal totems in the original version of Path of the Totem Warrior because they saw the same animals reappearing in each feature. While this is true, it leaves out the fact that the subclass description discourages choosing different animals, saying it is very rare for someone to have multiple types of totem animals. It said that you *could* use multiple, but to me it heavily implied that you shouldn't without consulting your DM.
Wildheart can change their always-on power with a long rest, but fighter can't change their Fighting Style with a long rest?
They can now actually, I think it was mentioned in the Fighter video.
@@billyjoemaurillo929 its every time they gain a fighter level, instead of every time they get an ASI. One Weapon Mastery can be swapped on a long rest, like practicing weapon drills.
Fighting Styles should probably require more than a few hours of practice and a sleep to change.
@@ChicCanyon they...don't need to swap them, they're all active all the time
I hope you still kept the being-revived-for-free part of Warrior of the Gods, even if you added other stuff. It wasn't much more than a ribbon feature in terms of how often it would be useful in most games, but it was incredibly thematic and flavourful.
Thats what pulled me to make one and write a history for the character based around that. If its outright removed then you may as well play as a paladin.
TBH, as a DM, I'd probably house-rule it in even if it's not in the 2024 version of the subclass.
Excited to see what they changed, Barbs are one of my favorites.... Have been forever
They've made some good changes since the playtest.
Berserker now sounds pretty nutty if you reckless attack and do brutal strike and the frenzy.
Same here!
As a Barbarian main, I've never used Brutal Critical, mostly because I always forgot it existed because of how little I would roll a crit
Oh, yeah more Monty Haul power Creep. I fear for this becoming a dumpster fire.
In terms of game design, I can't pretend I like the Primal Knowledge allowing the Barbarian to Rage to use **Persuasion** (emphasis added due to some misreading) and Strength in any social situation. I would be OK with it *if* was to convince folks in combat, like Persuasion to exert leadership, give morale, etc. My reasons are obvious : some characters may be built to be social/charismatic, let them shine, rather than allow a Barb with 18 Str attempt his own non-combat Persuasion. Compare that with a Fighter who wants to play a leader: the Barb will oddly be better at Persuasion, pretty much for free (well, while Raging only), while that Fighter will invest in Charisma, a proper subclass, etc.
- I am of course *not* talking about Intimidation, which is fine. Barbs could have a permanent feature to Intimidate with Str and I would be fine with that. I am also ok with Acrobatics using Str while Raging in combat or Persuasion with Str in combat to lead NPC allies in a charge.
I guess it will be only intimidation among the CHA skills
@@PedroHISilva The revision here includes Persuasion, in any situation, as long as the Barbarian burns one Rage. If I DM, I would moderate that to a situation where Raging makes sense, so with some form of conflict, which could include a social conflict (pre-combat if you will, that might even avoid combat).
@@Baraz_Red fair enough
"Well while Raging only" is a massive understatement here. Barbarians do not want to use their rages if they don't have to. If you feel like a Barbarian at your table is using this feature "for free" I'd challenge you to run more encounters per day because burning a rage should never feel free for a Barbarian player.
Also, while some players do build their character to be social, there's also like every warlock who gets to be super good in social encounters just for playing a warlock. I don't see this as anything different other than it being way more limited due to the rage requirement.
I actually really like how this feature works:
It gives a risk for expending a use of your rage for a better roll elsewhere; Do you risk potentially not having a rage for the next combat encounter just to get a better price on that magic axe?
Also, on the DM side of things, I think that using Strength for some checks would lead to different results failure or success; Sure, you managed to persuade the shopkeeper to lower their price on the item, but in doings so, you’ve scared them so badly that they never want you to come back to the shop and will call the guards if you attempt to do so.
I just realized the bonus action to maintain rage wasn’t actually a thing that existed already. I think it misread the ‘you can end the rage as a bonus action’ part as a being part of the previous sentence, and so have always allowed barbarians to ‘seethe’ as a bonus action. Good to know it’s official now
I like that Berserker is tightened up.
Meh don't really like the Zealot changes that much.
Thanks Wizards cost, all your Pre-order bonuses are for the USA only leaving us in the rest of the world to pay more and not even get the digi bonuses. thanks for showing the love to your players from around the world.
Play pathfinder then
@@SwiftBandit23I mean they have every right to be upset. Personally I preordered, but I honestly agree, it’s stupid. It should be accessible the same around the world in the same manner regardless of where you are. I think they’d get more money that way, and ultimately it’s be good for the company as a whole, since they can then say that it’s a game meant for the world to enjoy.
@@SwiftBandit23They have every right to criticize the company that nearly monopolizes the genre for treating their global playerbase poorly.
@@SwiftBandit23And telling them to leave the game for another is not the way to go about it. It doesn't change the problems that exist, it actually worsens them. Don't gatekeep the game when people have legitimate concerns, it makes the rest of the fan base look bad. If you're someone who thinks that D&D is only for one group of people, then you're not welcome in this Fandom. It's meant for everyone, and I wish their business practices would reflect that. But don't hate on someone for legitimate concerns
I have a feeling they will be opened up to everyone prior to release. I understand your frustration, but you'll still get in before the bell.
Primal Knowledge is basically getting so frustrated when you can't solve a math problem that you force the universe to just tell you the god damned answer.
Darth Maul using his bonus action to maintain his rage during duel of the fates before it was cool
I Reread Primal Knowledge on the UA and I really want to know how you Rage Sneak. Least Persuasion isn't on the list, I want to Rage Seduce the barmaid ain't right.
I want barbarians to be able to use strength for their unarmed defense instead of dexterity.
I dont, it doesnt make sense. Youre not stopping an axe from sinking into your flesh by flexing.
@lazerrhino You aren't but a barbarian is. Strength isn't just flexing but also your ability to stop a maul or hammer. Also muscle definitely helps resist damage, wether it be blunt or slashing damage
@@lazerrhinoyou're not...but you could and would be freaking cool
and I want wizards to be able to use Int for HP instead of Con lmfao
@@djsnoflake the two don't correlate
Wish they visited Path of the Beast for this new system that uses rage outside of combat. Lot of options they could of added to further this within the theme that also isn't as aggressive as growing claws/tail/mandible.
Who knows, they probably will in a future book!
Hey yall, the timestamp for the path of the zealot is a great deal later than it should be. Put it at 21:53.
thx bro :)
Wait, what? Is he fucking cooking for the first time?
It sounds like the overriding philosophy for the 2024 Rules is "As long as the Players are having fun, it's good," which is great... Sadistic RAW DMs everywhere will now be pushing Homebrew Rules from AD&D with a Tomb of Horror's flavor.
You play with bad DMs.
@@Creepernom My DM is actually good and fair. I was referring to all of the RAW DMs on Reddit or some of the DM moderators on D&D Beyond Discord who are Pedant Trolls,
Nah, I think they just stopped playing 5e like I did
Palas weren't too happy with their vid
Warlock and Wizard next please and thank you.
They seem to be doing Martials first, then spellcasters
Quietly screaming sneaking in to the enemy stronghold.
these videos need some text on screen to highlight each new change
Brutal critical is gone 🦀🦀🦀
I've never rolled a NAT 20 before anyway 🤣
I feel the sadness... really not jazzed about brutal strike
🦀
For those that had my kind of luck the ability never existed to begin with!
The biggest buff to the barbarian so far!!
I love having all of those choices, in the “Totem Warrior” the new Wildheart. The more options the better. I just hope that the Elk with the increased mobility features, is still an option. That one is my favorite. Please Wotc have those options still be able to be chosen!
I'm looking forward to this one
Also very curious about the rogue and about sorcerer subclasses
Like what subclasses will be included or just the mechanics of the subclasses? They announced what the sorc subclasses will be already I believe.
@@oshermdaddy2058 yep: draconic, wild magic, clockwork soul, and aberrant mind.
I’m curious with Druids
hope they don't butcher moon
Is it bad that I’m not crazy upset by any of the new changes I’ve seen? Like, I get the vibe from the comments that I should be angry and up in arms, but I’m not.
I really like the little clarification for the zealot barbarian that they need not necessarily worship and particular god, or gods in general and can instead be linked to a different kind of divine source.
I am currently playing a zealot barbarian who actually dislikes so many people's blind following of gods and instead draws power from the belief in his own potential.
So if I get this right, while you are raging you can use strength for persuasion or intimidation (and a few others) but rage also gives you advantage on strength checks. So barbarian can actually be a party face 😮. Probably not as good as charisma based classes but still, that's pretty cool
I believe that Persuasion was mistakenly said. You might be able to find videos by youtubers who have early copies.
Honestly, besides being mechanically consistent (hey, bonus action to start rage, bonus action to maintain rage) it even makes narrative sense, because as you start using your bonus action for utility again (you know, not fighting) your character comes closer back to reality and less consumed by the Rage 🤔
Removing every potential downside or complication from the classes feels wrong to me. It is like 4e-ification of 5e
Agree. It’s like turning on cheat codes. I think they are playing into a juvenile expectation to just win all the time. Tempted to not allow the class, frankly.
@@utopia2112 I’m not judging it except by my own needs and preferences. If other people like and want them let them enjoy it.
Stealth check using strength?? For real?
This just sounds like D&D version 4.0
This could've been the opportunity to make Artificers cool. But looks like they'll be left behind. Especially since all other classes are free on DnD beyond. So that's another barrier to entry
I really hope the zelott still has the feature that makes it easier to resurrect. I really like the theme that this person is a warrior that can basically be summoned without cost and is basically a summon. Please please please don't touch that
They gave them a lay on hands for self ability instead.
I'm pretty sure the resurrection ability is gone.
@@barcster2003 I saw that, but it seems like he said it was replacing it. If that is gone, I'd be down to to tell a player they can swap it back cause it's just so cool thematically
During the UA it was both, so hopefully he just misspoke.
@@rhylin26 I pray to Helm you're right
@rhylin26 well we know they've made changes so maybe they increased the healing and axed the death benefit.
Battlerager better have some love. That subclass is iconic and it's so very underwhelming as it is.
I would love to see some attack options in the Wild Heart as in the BG3.
I hope that there are statements in the PHB that the DM makes the final decision if something is allowed and appropriate.
That has always been the case
Oh wow, this will date Fantasy High season 3, because now, there is such a thing as barbarian healing
Barbarian was my first Class playing DnD
The new Berserker Subclass sounds like the Subclass I really wanted. But the exhaustion condition made me to pick an other subclass
Anyone else feel like Primal Knowledge sucks?
You can use it on
Acrobatics, Intimidation,
Perception, Stealth, or Survival.
You get to use strength for the check and since you are raging, you get advantage.
Why does it use up a rage though? That cost is too high to be worth it. You can maintain a rage for 10 minutes, but how many of these checks will you make in a 10 minute span?
I'd say you would be lucky to get 3 checks. You probably aren't chaining stealth checks. Once you try to intimidate someone, you'll either get what you need or you won't be allowed to try again. You usually won't be hiven multiple perception or survival checks in 10 minutes. And the chance of you neesing multiple Acrobatics checks in 10 minutes is low.
Barbs shouldn't have to spend their combat resources to have any out of combat use, because then they won't be useful in combat (without rages) and are basically just a worse fighter.
Not being able to rage in combat also locks you out of most of your subclass features most times. Reckless attack is hard to justify most times without rage resistance.
As good as many of these changes seem, I'm still left a bit concerned. I'd designed a minotaur zealot for our next campaign, but 1) I'm worried that the Weapon Mastery stuff will reduce the impact of his racial traits and 2) I specifically made choices to tilt him more toward offense than defense because of the "too ornery to die" capstone, but now that's gone. 🙁 I guess I'll have to go back to the drawing board once the official rules are published, and he may not make it through the transformation.
Brutal Strike is still meh. 9 times out of 10, I'd rather just hit with advantage instead of risking a miss and wasting an attack. Especially if I'm still taking disadvantage to my ac. Brutal Strike should have just been an extra weapon damage dice once per round. This would have nowhere near broken the game for a level 9 character.
Really like the Zealot Barb changes. I've been playing one in a high level campaign and it's a blast.
A little disappointed Brutal Strike- as it appeared in UA -is going in cause it feels like it's immediately stepping on the toes of the Weapon Mastery mechanics that were introduced right alongside them. I get that they can be stacked with the Weapon Mastery mechs, like Battle Master's tactical maneuvers, but it feels like there's a bit of an excessive overlap here comparatively.
I vehemently opposed the changes to the zealot during the playtest and am so sad to see my favorite abilities changed. I don’t really care for flying. If I wanted to fly I’d create a character able to fly. It’s not even something I can voluntarily do. It may have been easier for Warrior of the gods but it felt like the gods weren’t ready for you to die so they helped other players raise you from the clutches of death to complete your mission. Instead it’s just essentially an extra healing potion if it even helps and you don’t outright die. The flavor of those now feels so meh. With the other abilities of Rage of the Gods what was said was so vague.
I just need to see Ranger info, there were barely any changes in the UA so I need to see if anything’s different
I cant even watch this i am so upset about the smite nerf. i Just want nothing to do with the "new" players hand book they have just soured me on this product. I cant imagine taking power and fun away form my players.
Geez they better be altering the Monster Manual pretty heavily. Every class is getting buffed to OP levels. Here’s hoping every single encounter isnt going to be over in one round.
I am hoping Call Emotions get a clause for Rage. It feels wrong that is no longer can be used to counter a Rage by pausing combat for a round. How is a barbarian able to use a bonus action to maintain rage when can't feel that rage?
So far all I'm seeing in these videos is all reward with zero risk. Heaven forbid players get punished for their mistakes.
i am concerned that the path of the ancestral guardian wasn't mentioned here, same with many of the wizard subclasses, ect, i do hope its just a matter of them not haveing time to touch on those classes in these videos and not that the subclasses not mentioned have simply been dropped
Love the change to the Berserker, world tree is excellent. Not a fan of the zealot changes, I like my living dead barbarian
Let me get this straight...I can salmon rage now? Lmao!
Would love if the chapter selection was accurate. Misses the start of every chapter. 🤦🏻♂️
Not sure I'm on board with the explanation given with Primal Knowledge. Maybe seeing the curated list of skills will change my mind, but for now it seems a little shoe-horned in there.
This all sounds very unrageful, but certainly more powerful and mayby thats the point…
Raaaaaaageeee!!’
I'm so looking forward to open these new books and flesh out so great PC's.
Hoping to finish up my campaign by the time these drop!
Very disappointed there are no bundles of none USA players.
why not just let the rage last a number of rounds equal to their constitution ability (wow)
Barbarians didn't need anything else. look I'm going to say it rage resistance is busted
Are we getting all of the other class previews as well? Love to hear about Druid and Warlock.
they're basically releasing one a day
I was suspecting I would see Dungeons & Dragons 4e mechanics and here it is in the Barbarian.
Sad they got rid of the Zelot undeath that was the feature that made me choose the class.
wow tenemos quw esperar hasta el 26 par ver al picaro, pero estoy viendo gente subiendolo ya
I would want the capstone for world tree barb to let you use plane shift.
That ability to use strength for other abilities will make my homebrew Path of the Hulking Transformation feature difficult. It replaces all Strength checks and attacks with INT.
Bonus action to maintain rage?! YES! Thank you! 🙏 👍🤩
BRÜLLE THE BEST BARBARIAN IN BRAZIL 🇧🇷
So now i can actually make a Conan the BARBARIAN build
I play-tested the new barbarian, and as someone who really dislikes melee classes, I thought it was really fun!
00:32 What type of grip is that? You want your hands farther apart for greater reach and power.
It's called "I'm an artist who doesn't know how to hold a weapon" grip.
Half-swording but with axe?
maybe his arm got tired poor guy
I love that the rage is now something you can use outside of combat. Thank you. Barbarians needed more outside of combat features.
No Wild Magic subclass? Anyone else sad about that?
No love for my Wild Magic Barbarian... Sad Panda...
So as someone who played a
Guild artisan background
Swift stride shifter
Elk totem barbarian
With mobility and poke arm master feats (season or two away from piercer)
I'm listening and so far I hear
"Well we didn't put enough shills in"
Insight, persuasion, Athletics, survival, stealth and animal handler were not enough skills?
Not enough bonus actions (shifter, rage, bonus attack, )
Bye to my 3D10/3d4 critical with advantage... Hello slowing a guy who already can't catch me?
Still overland travel speed for the party or acrobats in town/dungeon as a wild heart?
I feel I'm losing my ability to be "the fastest dwarf around", the fastest moving bowerman, and the staby staby withdraw.
Persuasion with strength? Yep, my fists are very persuasive:)
That’s called an intimidation check. I still don’t get it.
@@tofubaba1315 can you please explain why should we get you in?
*Shows abbs*
Boo. Intimidate should be decoupled from ability checks. I can imagine Intimidate for any ability score. Strength and Charisma are obvious, but I could make a Dex Intimidate, like that guy who made a sword display in the Indiana Jones movie (sure, he failed that check), or an Intelligence Intimidate to scare some bureaucrat with your Rules Fu, Wisdom Intimidate to get insight into what scares your enemies, or Constitution Intimidate when someone tortures you and you don't break so hard you unnerve your torturer.
Really fun new features. Amazing job, but me as a DM is looking forward to the new monster book to counter some of all this. As of now it seems most of the dangers of being an adventurer is gone. Might be that I have played since 1983, times where different. Love your work and I will keep reading and listening.