People who specifically call themselves "nice guys" are most likely not "nice". If a person calls himself "nice" there is no problem, but if a guy always mentions how much he does for you or that you should date him because he is so "NICE", sorry, that is a red flag for me.
markclark5 You fucking nailed it. So many guys have been disillusioned because they've been asking women what they want in a man. The whole time the answer was in their face, and they couldn't see it.
A S That's terrible, but not your fault. Capitalism destroys true social bonds, and just as you'd expect most people feel fake because of it. It has nothing to do with their character and everything to do with the nurture of greed and inhumanity they've been subjected to.
+zadose So if I believe I am a nice guy then I am not a nice guy. If I say that I am not a nice guy then I am pretty sure I am a horrendous person. Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. With that mentality I grieve for your ability to make any kind of relationship or meaningful connection. You are right in one thing however, that most men pretend to be nice to women. The reason is simple, we have experience that women in general cannot handle to be treated equally as harsh as men treat each other.
Guys have generally become pussies. That's why women seem crazy. Cuz they're dealing with a bunch of pussies. Stop watching porn and go out there and fuck.
mgtow exist because the western civilization fucked things up with the feminist getting all the power and control of the government. Example: A guy who did everything for his woman and the woman cheated on him the law says he has to pay for child support, half of his wealth is going to go to the woman and he has to pay for alimony. What the fuck, he did everything right under the sun and the government fucked him. There was a study that girls suffer the most pain during a break up but they get over it but guys suffer less pain but it will haunt the pain forever.
BECAUSE this vid is not meant for just ppl who want to hook up! This is for those naive ppl who want a stable and serious one! Just ugh, why no one understands her target audience??? Jeez, all of these points should be taken into account but every person has their own mind. Just feel with your gut if its going in the direction you want or not and analyze the signals. Thats it!
+The updated bible Interesting... What if I want a serious relationship and don't know the guy...not to mention I haven't fallen in love...? And you're saying I don't want what I want...or maybe what I want is wrong? Either way... I can want a serious relationship and nobody is going to tell me what I want or don't want... I hope I've made myself clear! :)
+The updated bible You CAN want a serious relationship ever before knowing the significant other you are going to have. And it is PERFECTLY fine and NORMAL. You set a goal that you want the stable one, not one night stand, temporary, casual, etc..... then you get to know someone somehow somewhere. According to your instinct, you are gonna evaluate if this one is a good fit for your goal. If 'yes' carry on - move onto next level. Otherwise call it off.
+The updated bible , I don't agree with you. A woman or man doesn't have to do a taste test first before wanting a serious relationship. It used to go by the way in the old days; marry first then have sex on your honey moon. Your normal is different from my normal.
+The updated bible Having sex without knowing that a life with the other person would work is just as ridiculous as marrying a randomly selected person out of a modern tent city, with the stipulation that the "until death do us part" part is set in stone.
3:13 seriously? you think saying "we can hookup, but i don't want a relationship" is some kind of deceptive, "nice guy move"? it's not a "move" at all, that's just someone telling you something clearly without ANY ambiguity at all. you are SO entrenched in your world of reverse psychology and mind-games, that you actually think that someone who tells you something that's completely clear, true, and simple to understand is playing a mind-game with you. please go and learn how to think properly.
33LB Yeah girls always say they want a guy to be honest with them and when they are they think there is an angle to what they are saying. Also when a man says they just want to hook up and a girl agrees to it how is it the guys fault when the girl catches feelings?
Ehh I've had guys say that to me, are done with me and get in a relationship the next month. It's not that they're not looking for a relationship.. They don't ever see one with ME
Avatard.Essle yes, of course. they told YOU that they did not want a relationship with YOU and they were just looking for something casual. where is the dishonesty? he told you exactly what you were getting. you are stuck so deeply in games of reverse psychology that you don't even understand when someone is being direct and honest. please get out of your stupid mind games, and just think and act NORMALLY.
33LB THANK YOU! All this video tells me is that this woman is dellusional, and I'm glad I hardly had to scroll into to comments to see that I'm not the only one who thinks so.
33LB agreed. so much. I check in to these videos to see how much damage she is doing to people, dating and especially women under the guise of help and empowerment.
If a guy states that he's looking for a friends with benefits situation and the girl agrees, then he really hasn't done anything wrong. It's bit necessarily a "nice guy" move, but it's more honorable than not stating his intentions from the beginning.
She summed up the entire driveling video at 2:59: "It's just a brilliant move on their part" If a guy just wants to hook up, he will perform these tricks to get sex. As she admitted, it's a brilliant move, because for the most part it works. She, and any other woman, shouldn't be complaining about this because such women seek out these men anyway.
Stop rejecting honest, responsible men. The overwhelming majority of the time women don’t sleep with real nice guys. Women sleep with jerks which is why every woman I have known had multiple stories to tell about jerks they have been with in the past. Nice guys don’t get laid until they convert to being a jerk because that’s what works. Me personally I’ve never got laid by being nice and caring for a woman, but after having my nice guy heart stomped on and learning the hard way that being nice never works I’ve had much more success with women.
Good on you :) you are saving alot of young girl time and heartache and headaches. I know alot of men aren't going to like it. Each has their own reason. (This isn't targeting every guy.) But you know your target audience and you stick the facts. I can vouch from personal experience that this is accurate and not over exaggerating. If anything it's kinda holding back. The girls coming into the real world need this kind of help and know-hows.
People will do to you, what you allow them to. Take it for what it is, two people having fun nothing more nothing less. If you don't want it to happen don't be there.
***** that's the thing about female nature, what you say and what you do are rarely the same thing. only your actions reveal if you can take the truth.
*****"Saying that a certain behavior is exclusive to one sex and NEVER the other is ridiculously ignorant" but, it's not ignorant to misquote someone in order to support your own narrative? nowhere did i say the behavior is exclusive to women. NOWHERE. what i point out is the median behavior of females. if i were to say an orange is orange that would apply to the median. but there are oranges of different colors.
Heed My Warning My apologies, I misread your comment. I have been dealing with a lot of sexist people trying to treat females as though they are some separate lying,conniving, or inferior subspecies... I agree the truth is a hard thing to swallow for a lot of people. I faced my truth and my fate. Never been happier but when I try to help other chicks out and I am being openly honest with them they crumble and it irritates me.
these guys will end up regretting it later - same with the girls. Find someone you like and you get on with and your attracted to one another Hold On to it )
Although the emotional tip from your last video - was very good. Which brings me to getting to know the personality of either girl or guy - Not wasting hours on end or months to find it personality's dont suit. Although some peeps do grow on one another )
My favorite video so far...yes, it just happened to me, and I'm "very special" to him and he "adors me", I mean "the world" to him....but he doesn't want a "full time" girlfriend. Huh, interesting. Downright hurtful! Thanks so much girl, this was great!
so what about a guy who genuinely gives a shit and says hes there if you need it? cause i do this with almost all of my friends not all female either. including people im not attracted to.
I read the title and expected something different, but was happily surprised at the content! I learned something about me. I used the "Not Really Nice Guy Moves". Almost EVERY example you mentioned - I have used more than once! I guess wasn't really a nice guy like I remembered, BUT I'm married now so I don't get to use them anymore. (except for the backrups) Such an eyeopening experience!!
I have noticed that this is a double standard. Women don't insult dream hunks that they want to screw, they get NICE! Only when it is men being nice towards the goal of sex, does it become considered wrong.
This vid is basically a girl laying out her obsession with and anger at good-looking guys for exercising their options and then saying it's unattractive nice guys who are at fault!
Well said lady. I've been on the dishing out end of it. Yes, I've been the nice girl that says "Hey, I'm not looking for anything serious. Blah blah blah." So... I completely understand a guy when he says those kinds of things to me. Hey Universe! It's out there!
whoatemyhummus True, casual sexual relationships are valid and don't have to be romantic, as long as both parties are in it consensually, which is what the person making their intentions for he relationship clear is trying to accomplish.
Sadly I used to be that "nice" and then started focusing on myself and women appreciate that more. And for some reason you become more attractive to them when you're on your shit. The flip side is I reject more women now since my stock value has increased so sucks to be them. But I'm still the back rub guy. Never got me laid though. :/
So how should a guy act if he really wants a relationship then? I have a girl I’m really into and some of these I’ve done but genuinely, however it seems not to work
i was a nice guy once upon a time and its totally different from what you describe. being a nice guy means being a "disney"-romance soft nerd. these guys are like poor little creatures you used, just to get back at your ex , at the best case scenario. those guys if they ever became your boyfriends (i mean if a girl like you could actually visualy recognize their existence) they would be more than eager to be "best boyfriends ever" in exchange of just a good heart under the oh-so-beautiful face of yours. their social taste is.. just people with good hearts -because good hearts are rare. but nooo... i should become a sociopath in order to survive. thnx ladies. thnx for the hard lessons. i cannot give myself anymore to anybody and i inhale and exhale emotional manipulation even in my sleep. great job. thnx again..
Well, I have strict platonic female friends. Did it ever occur to you that sometimes, its fun for a guy to put his ''game' off and relax and chill and be himself with a friend even if she is seeing somebody else ? And for the record, the reason I see my female friends less when they have a boyfriend is actually out of respect for the other dude so he doesn't freak out ? Any self-respecting gentlemen knows how we feel about our new Girl ''male friends'' And lets face it, when people are in a relationship they have less time. So sorry if you got screwed over by your male friends; but like not all girls are demented bitches, not all guys are lying dogs.
I see most of the people commenting aren't aware of the "nice guy" meme which is essentially what she's talking about. A guy just pretending to be nice to manipulate but really he's more of a narc.
OMG I have been binge watching your videos for the last few hours. You crack me up. I've been laughing for the better part of the day. Love your realness. Can't wait to see your website. Keep up the great videos!
when I was a young incel (term didn't exist then), I thought I was a nice guy and was mad girls weren't into me. what was not clear to me at the time was that I was a manipulative dooshbag that wanted to trick vunerable girls into givin up the goodies. so what I sayin is, the only difference between "nice guys" who do this and players is that nice guys just don't know how to do it! become a sincere dude, get a real passion in life, put in a dash of sassy and you will find chicks starting to like you!
First off people classify me as the nice guy, which I genuinely am. 1st. When I tell a female friend I'm there for them, all I mean is that, no hidden agenda at all; I know none of my female friends see me in a dating manner and I've gotten over it. 2nd. I only hangout with any friend male or female when invited because I'm a shitty planner and my plans never work out the way I want so I let everyone make plans, I do have one friend I can only hang with while she's single but that's because she tends to date guys who hate her having male friends. 3rd. I gave up on dating a long time ago not that anyone knows and despite not knowing I do have female friends over a lot and we do watch Netflix or play video games without thoughts of sexual interactions to happen. 4th. Back rubs are for people in intimate relationships, so I don't give anyone one. 5th. I'd never say to anyone we can hang as just friends but also hookup Last point I've never broken up with someone to say they deserve better, although I do have shitty self-esteem and even lower self-confidence so if a female was to ever approach and ask me out, I could see myself telling her that she deserves better and to aim higher than well me, Way higher.
Women have a very pessimistic view of men don't they... If I say "Just let me know if there is anything I can do to help out". I mean that genuinely, I have no ulterior motive. You have to be some exceptional level of self absorbed to think everything a guy does revolves around "getting" you... Maybe its the type of men you attract. Yeah its probably that.
A lot of women have this problem with their inflated egos that anyone being nice must be 'fake' or must want them. It's sad that people have such low expectations and can't relate to decent people.
Simon Vance I remember offering to show a new student around my uni a few years back and I could see her instantly become uncomfortable because she thought I was doing it to "get something" from her... it grossed me out so I quickly pointed stuff out then walked off. I got too much self respect to waste time on women like that. Leave that for the desperate fools.
as you are obviously a man, you obviously don't know how many women are brought up being fed all these prejudgemental stereotypes... combined with the wrong role models of how to treat and deal with a man, this is what you get... I personally grew up without a single man in my family and had NO idea how to deal with them and - of course - how to protect myself from getting into situations that I didn't really want... if a woman treats a man like she would treat a woman, the man resp. the situations she's getting herself into will definitely hurt her... tragically without her even knowing that it wasn't "him", but the way she dealt with him... lve
mssummerrose1 Sorry I'm not following, the grammar was a bit difficult to decipher what you were saying. Are you saying a woman has to act stuck up to protect herself? Well she can enjoy filtering out all the good men then.
I've been watching some content similar to this trying to get a female point of view on problems they have with men, and ended up noticing a recurring theme... it's how often women just play themselves, the "I can change him" thing women do even though he just told you his intentions blows my mind.
All of your videos seriously make my day! Seriously its all incredibly straight forward information that we try to act like its not true lol you're amazing!
damm Amy, if u got all of these guy's coment on ur video it means they r watching cuz they kn what u kn is real. ..some r mad at u cuz u r reveling their stupid secrets which they call "guys code" to get anything tgey can possibly get 4m a women ...
Completely right except for one detail. The being there for someone when they break up has the intentions breakdown as follows. 90%: hoping you will make a mistake and mess around when emotionally vulnerable 9%: (this one is me) hoping they will realize that you have their back and after they are over their ex, you will pick them to date next 0.9%: just really good straight friends with no interest 0.1%: the gay best friend Im in the 9% and I think that that one is important to note. Not all guys are trying to use you with that line. Some are just pathetic males who desperately want your love and affection and will try to show how much they care to get it when they know they never stand a chance (me).
This is just your best video! I like it so much! You are definitly crazy that's what make ur video addictive and this one is so so fcking relatable and accurate! I already know guys comment are epic, I may come read that one day if I feel down to realise how down these db can feel haha!
Wow. Talk about bitter and paranoid. Yes, some guys will use a girl for sex. But odds are she is driving a lot of them away with her negativity.. She's pretty, but that only gets you so far. Based on this video it seems like it would be a chore to hang out with her. Guys want to be around girls who are fun, positive and non judgmental. She is wound way too tight. If a lot of guys are using her for sex and then ditching her she needs to look at herself, not the guys. She is the one common denominator in all the relationships. There are lots of girls that have no trouble keeping a guy. I don't care how into you a guy is, they can only take so much over analyzing and insecurity.
You are a really beautiful person. I love watching your videos you have helped me cope so much. I have the I don’t want a relationship. Not with you not with anyone. But yet we have relationship everything. Communication (good and bad) intimacy. He keeps me on lock so I can’t move but he says I’m gonna do what I want. He preaches the gospel but calls me a whore a bitch a this a that. He gets annoyed when I ask are you ok? He totally owes me money. I feel like a total idiot. But you help me so much. I won’t let a man be this manipulative ever again. Oh ya he encourages me and he gives me advice but I’m learning words are cheap and actions definitely speak louder. ❤️
I'm already guilty of #2, but thanks for the other ideas! :) ps. I'm always here for you if you need a backrub. We totally don't have to do anything else...
This is why MGTOW will spread, MGTOW doesn't have to do anything to recruit men into its philosophy. Such videos keep proving the Philosophy right every time. I mean, do you fucking enjoy walking into the trap that your detractors have set up for you?
It's awesome that women continue to take no responsibility in all this. As long as you blame guys for everything we can keep doing it and you're powerless to stop us. We can lead you anywhere we want you and you'll come right along with us because, whatever happens, it's not your fault, just blame the guy and you're off the hook.
This is what happens when you give away sex without a long-term commitment. If you as a woman want a long-term and emotionally fulfilling relationship, sex should be reserved not used as the hook. Insisting on waiting for sex, will filter out most if not all of the players.
This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard about "nice guys"..... cuz obviously there are others like "good girls" that are not good girls, sluts or whatever .. and everywhere you'll find good people and bad people, that's how life's working !! But that's kind of offensive on being a nice guy, or being a getelman.. You said it yourself, life is all about learning from the mistakes that we made and don't make them again.
ECO473 if you're nice with the ulterior motive of sex and expectation that any vague gesture of kindness is to be rewarded with sex, what you're doing isn't really for them, is it?
I'm really sorry you've had all these bad experiences. Although it's important to know not all guys are like that. There are definitely those of us who actually will be there for our female friends without any sexual intentions. Another thing is, just because something is cliche or over-said, doesn't make it false. There are scenarios where we can't fulfill the personal needs of our partner, and vice versa, and break up because of it. Loved the video, just wanted to clarify we're not all bad :).
After watching that video I am so very glad and lucky that I have been happily single for the past 38 years. I can happily keep women in the friend zone without any emotional or sexual attachment and live my life happily as a very happy single man. I wrote an article for 2 pages on Facebook about my love of the friend zone and not wanting or having sex for 38 years. So I am proud to say that my nice guy moves in the friend zone are fair dinkum:)
Damn, already feeling sorry for the guy who marries this girl. Already complaining, god damn! This is just before a serious commitment. god damn, imagine this girl after.
Him saying he doesn't want a girlfriend b/c they are "too much trouble" & "he has no time" but then all of a sudden has some chick moving in w/ him.. Or "I don't want to sleep w/ you b/c I respect you too much as a friend" and then he sleeps w/ you. lol....
Sometimes guys ask girls to have sex pretty early in order to test girls. If a girl accept to have sex too easily the guy will think she is too easy and will run away. But if the girl makes the guy wait he will find her more interesting and will respect her more. It's kind of a test. It depends on guys of course. On the other hand many other guys just want to get laid and never come back.
i'd have to disagree with 2:32, because i was that guy. i didn't think being with me was worth all the family/studying abroad problems she had to deal with, and I ended it in hopes she could be happier with someone else. maybe some guys say it because they want to keep them as booty calls. maybe others just didn't have enough self-worth to think they're good enough for her. either way though, i don't think those are the kinds of guys anyone should want to be with.
+Faizal Ali , she's generalizing too much and that sends a wrong message. You're right that a guy could find himself unworthy if he feels he needs to be a provider, which is how most men feel in general, and doesn't like the idea of the woman wearing the pants being the provider. That's intimidating and challenges one's masculinity.
Sacrilege83 yeah, unfortunately i felt like i had to be the one providing all the time, and when I couldn't do that, I left the relationship entirely. i can only take solace in knowing that my ex is in a happier relationship now, and that at least this experience has taught me something valuable.
Some won't hang out with someone of interest of the opposite gender if they're in a relationship, because (s)he was raised to see it as inappropriate. They might see you from time to time and if they find out you're single later, will probably try to spend more time with you. P.S. If you want the best possible chance of landing a real man. Turn down everything that normally leads to sex until the prospects of a future with that person are unquestionable. And stop running away from guys just for primarily having habits of men who are not always trying to get laid nor have experience with female friends.
This reminds me of the first few episodes of How I Met Your Mother when Ted kept waiting for the “window of opportunity”. He kept trying to modify his behavior so that he wouldn’t be pushed away as being too forward but she would still be interested by maintaining a distance in case she decides that she might be catching feelings. Like a friendzone purgatory.
If a guy breaks up with "I think you deserve better than me" or something similar, it might be only one side of the truth or even not the truth at all, BUT at least he tries to be POLITE. Isn't that so much better than the blaming and shaming attacks that some girls are ranting at their partner when they want to leave the relationship?
Yeah and the guy might really just have a low self esteem and think he doesn't deserve the girl. Guys are not some machoalphamachines. Generalisations like the ones on this video only tells that she doesn't know many guys that well.
Unfortunately I learnt these moves about 6 months ago. However, he's come running back. How do I play this? I don't want him anymore but wouldn't mind a tiny taste of his medicine.. Just a tiny one. Don't wanna get too invested! Btw. Just found your channel. Love it!
Well there are guys who just want to hook up or ons and tell it to you. That's ok. It might be hard to meet some of the women which only want sex too, but it's not impossible. Then there are the guys that pull every emotionally manipulative trick in the book to get the girl layed. That are the players. Then there is the guy that tells you that he is so nice, too good for this world and expects sexual favors of you cuz he's so freakn nice - that's the nice guy.
People who specifically call themselves "nice guys" are most likely not "nice". If a person calls himself "nice" there is no problem, but if a guy always mentions how much he does for you or that you should date him because he is so "NICE", sorry, that is a red flag for me.
I can see all the "nice" guys arrived.
don't listen to what women say, watch what they do
markclark5 You fucking nailed it. So many guys have been disillusioned because they've been asking women what they want in a man. The whole time the answer was in their face, and they couldn't see it.
don't be a fucking creep... listen to what women say and also have enough social skills to pick up on hints. you fucking incel degenerate.
Ahaziah of Judah
Incels don't understand that. I don't think they ever will because they gave up on women lol
*people, not just women. I think everyone is garbage until proven otherwise.
A S That's terrible, but not your fault. Capitalism destroys true social bonds, and just as you'd expect most people feel fake because of it. It has nothing to do with their character and everything to do with the nurture of greed and inhumanity they've been subjected to.
Why are there so many nice guys here? ._.
So you are unable to distinguish nice guys from players. Good to know.
so is 99.9% of the female population it seems
they like sex end of story, they are lying when they say they don't like it. Women wont change, so have to go MGTOW, let women suffer.
+zadose
So if I believe I am a nice guy then I am not a nice guy.
If I say that I am not a nice guy then I am pretty sure I am a horrendous person.
Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. With that mentality I grieve for your ability to make any kind of relationship or meaningful connection.
You are right in one thing however, that most men pretend to be nice to women. The reason is simple, we have experience that women in general cannot handle to be treated equally as harsh as men treat each other.
Guys have generally become pussies. That's why women seem crazy. Cuz they're dealing with a bunch of pussies. Stop watching porn and go out there and fuck.
mgtow exist because the western civilization fucked things up with the feminist getting all the power and control of the government. Example: A guy who did everything for his woman and the woman cheated on him the law says he has to pay for child support, half of his wealth is going to go to the woman and he has to pay for alimony. What the fuck, he did everything right under the sun and the government fucked him. There was a study that girls suffer the most pain during a break up but they get over it but guys suffer less pain but it will haunt the pain forever.
BECAUSE this vid is not meant for just ppl who want to hook up! This is for those naive ppl who want a stable and serious one! Just ugh, why no one understands her target audience???
Jeez, all of these points should be taken into account but every person has their own mind. Just feel with your gut if its going in the direction you want or not and analyze the signals. Thats it!
+The updated bible Interesting... What if I want a serious relationship and don't know the guy...not to mention I haven't fallen in love...? And you're saying I don't want what I want...or maybe what I want is wrong? Either way... I can want a serious relationship and nobody is going to tell me what I want or don't want... I hope I've made myself clear! :)
+The updated bible You CAN want a serious relationship ever before knowing the significant other you are going to have. And it is PERFECTLY fine and NORMAL. You set a goal that you want the stable one, not one night stand, temporary, casual, etc..... then you get to know someone somehow somewhere. According to your instinct, you are gonna evaluate if this one is a good fit for your goal. If 'yes' carry on - move onto next level. Otherwise call it off.
+Aung Khant That's EXACTLY what I meant :)
+The updated bible , I don't agree with you. A woman or man doesn't have to do a taste test first before wanting a serious relationship. It used to go by the way in the old days; marry first then have sex on your honey moon. Your normal is different from my normal.
+The updated bible Having sex without knowing that a life with the other person would work is just as ridiculous as marrying a randomly selected person out of a modern tent city, with the stipulation that the "until death do us part" part is set in stone.
3:13
seriously? you think saying "we can hookup, but i don't want a relationship" is some kind of deceptive, "nice guy move"? it's not a "move" at all, that's just someone telling you something clearly without ANY ambiguity at all.
you are SO entrenched in your world of reverse psychology and mind-games, that you actually think that someone who tells you something that's completely clear, true, and simple to understand is playing a mind-game with you. please go and learn how to think properly.
33LB Yeah girls always say they want a guy to be honest with them and when they are they think there is an angle to what they are saying. Also when a man says they just want to hook up and a girl agrees to it how is it the guys fault when the girl catches feelings?
Ehh I've had guys say that to me, are done with me and get in a relationship the next month. It's not that they're not looking for a relationship.. They don't ever see one with ME
Avatard.Essle yes, of course. they told YOU that they did not want a relationship with YOU and they were just looking for something casual. where is the dishonesty? he told you exactly what you were getting.
you are stuck so deeply in games of reverse psychology that you don't even understand when someone is being direct and honest. please get out of your stupid mind games, and just think and act NORMALLY.
33LB THANK YOU! All this video tells me is that this woman is dellusional, and I'm glad I hardly had to scroll into to comments to see that I'm not the only one who thinks so.
33LB agreed. so much. I check in to these videos to see how much damage she is doing to people, dating and especially women under the guise of help and empowerment.
If a guy states that he's looking for a friends with benefits situation and the girl agrees, then he really hasn't done anything wrong. It's bit necessarily a "nice guy" move, but it's more honorable than not stating his intentions from the beginning.
+Piriathy Always assume the worst :)
She summed up the entire driveling video at 2:59: "It's just a brilliant move on their part"
If a guy just wants to hook up, he will perform these tricks to get sex. As she admitted, it's a brilliant move, because for the most part it works. She, and any other woman, shouldn't be complaining about this because such women seek out these men anyway.
Frank M, Her philosophy should be, "fool me once shame on you," fool me 47 times shame on me."
They only do that after they've been pumped and dumped a bunch of times by them.
Or maybe just maybe you genuinely believed in the friendship
Stop rejecting honest, responsible men. The overwhelming majority of the time women don’t sleep with real nice guys. Women sleep with jerks which is why every woman I have known had multiple stories to tell about jerks they have been with in the past. Nice guys don’t get laid until they convert to being a jerk because that’s what works. Me personally I’ve never got laid by being nice and caring for a woman, but after having my nice guy heart stomped on and learning the hard way that being nice never works I’ve had much more success with women.
Good on you :)
you are saving alot of young girl time and heartache and headaches.
I know alot of men aren't going to like it. Each has their own reason. (This isn't targeting every guy.)
But you know your target audience and you stick the facts. I can vouch from personal experience that this is accurate and not over exaggerating. If anything it's kinda holding back.
The girls coming into the real world need this kind of help and know-hows.
People will do to you, what you allow them to. Take it for what it is, two people having fun nothing more nothing less. If you don't want it to happen don't be there.
women want to be lied to. why? because honesty is boring, has no drama, and hurts. lies are the gateway to a fantasy world where it rains panties.
I must be a freak of nature because I am a female and I prefer the ugly truth to a beautiful lie any day.
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that's the thing about female nature, what you say and what you do are rarely the same thing. only your actions reveal if you can take the truth.
Heed My Warning Hypocrites exist in both sexes. Saying that a certain behavior is exclusive to one sex and NEVER the other is ridiculously ignorant.
*****"Saying that a certain behavior is exclusive to one sex and NEVER the other is ridiculously ignorant" but, it's not ignorant to misquote someone in order to support your own narrative? nowhere did i say the behavior is exclusive to women. NOWHERE. what i point out is the median behavior of females. if i were to say an orange is orange that would apply to the median. but there are oranges of different colors.
Heed My Warning My apologies, I misread your comment. I have been dealing with a lot of sexist people trying to treat females as though they are some separate lying,conniving, or inferior subspecies...
I agree the truth is a hard thing to swallow for a lot of people. I faced my truth and my fate. Never been happier but when I try to help other chicks out and I am being openly honest with them they crumble and it irritates me.
Wow this entire video does not describe nice a guy.
Clark Kent That was the point.
blueilizzy2 Yeah someone should have put that in the title or something
***** irony overload
+Clark Kent Exactly, but she is too dopey to see it.
+Cully Schmetterling The point of the video is that they are NOT nice guys. It's in the bloody title for God's sake!
these guys will end up regretting it later - same with the girls. Find someone you like and you get on with and your attracted to one another Hold On to it )
Although the emotional tip from your last video - was very good. Which brings me to getting to know the personality of either girl or guy - Not wasting hours on end or months to find it personality's dont suit. Although some peeps do grow on one another )
I came here to be entertained not to be personally attacked lol 😂
My favorite video so far...yes, it just happened to me, and I'm "very special" to him and he "adors me", I mean "the world" to him....but he doesn't want a "full time" girlfriend. Huh, interesting. Downright hurtful! Thanks so much girl, this was great!
i fell down a youtube hole and somehow got HERE, but holy shit is she funny.
so what about a guy who genuinely gives a shit and says hes there if you need it? cause i do this with almost all of my friends not all female either. including people im not attracted to.
I read the title and expected something different, but was happily surprised at the content! I learned something about me. I used the "Not Really Nice Guy Moves". Almost EVERY example you mentioned - I have used more than once! I guess wasn't really a nice guy like I remembered, BUT I'm married now so I don't get to use them anymore. (except for the backrups) Such an eyeopening experience!!
I have noticed that this is a double standard. Women don't insult dream hunks that they want to screw, they get NICE! Only when it is men being nice towards the goal of sex, does it become considered wrong.
they will make up any explanation on the go, just to justify their actions to others and themselves.
This vid is basically a girl laying out her obsession with and anger at good-looking guys for exercising their options and then saying it's unattractive nice guys who are at fault!
So, in a nutshell, we should all be assholes
Well said lady. I've been on the dishing out end of it. Yes, I've been the nice girl that says "Hey, I'm not looking for anything serious. Blah blah blah." So... I completely understand a guy when he says those kinds of things to me. Hey Universe! It's out there!
You know, you're right. The back rub thing really does work. Thanks for reminding me.
I agreed with most of the things you said. I disagree when you say a man being honest about looking for something casual is being a bad person.
whoatemyhummus True, casual sexual relationships are valid and don't have to be romantic, as long as both parties are in it consensually, which is what the person making their intentions for he relationship clear is trying to accomplish.
Well aren't you something!!
There is something very
down to earth and unapologetically
courageous about you!!
Refreshing!!
Cheers!!
Sadly I used to be that "nice" and then started focusing on myself and women appreciate that more. And for some reason you become more attractive to them when you're on your shit. The flip side is I reject more women now since my stock value has increased so sucks to be them.
But I'm still the back rub guy. Never got me laid though. :/
Amy, you are truly wise beyond your years....I love your advice!
it's so great to see how much the quality of your videos and your content have improved. you're doing a really good job with your channel
So how should a guy act if he really wants a relationship then? I have a girl I’m really into and some of these I’ve done but genuinely, however it seems not to work
i was a nice guy once upon a time and its totally different from what you describe. being a nice guy means being a "disney"-romance soft nerd. these guys are like poor little creatures you used, just to get back at your ex , at the best case scenario.
those guys if they ever became your boyfriends (i mean if a girl like you could actually visualy recognize their existence) they would be more than eager to be "best boyfriends ever" in exchange of just a good heart under the oh-so-beautiful face of yours. their social taste is.. just people with good hearts -because good hearts are rare.
but nooo... i should become a sociopath in order to survive. thnx ladies. thnx for the hard lessons. i cannot give myself anymore to anybody and i inhale and exhale emotional manipulation even in my sleep. great job. thnx again..
Well, I have strict platonic female friends. Did it ever occur to you that sometimes, its fun for a guy to put his ''game' off and relax and chill and be himself with a friend even if she is seeing somebody else ? And for the record, the reason I see my female friends less when they have a boyfriend is actually out of respect for the other dude so he doesn't freak out ? Any self-respecting gentlemen knows how we feel about our new Girl ''male friends'' And lets face it, when people are in a relationship they have less time. So sorry if you got screwed over by your male friends; but like not all girls are demented bitches, not all guys are lying dogs.
I know I am a little late to the party since this video was from 2013 but She actually thinks she knows our moves now that is funny!
so what ARE your moves?
Just call me Sade because I'm a smooth operator lol Anyways, nice try but guy code rule number #347 "...never talk about the moves with females"
I see most of the people commenting aren't aware of the "nice guy" meme which is essentially what she's talking about. A guy just pretending to be nice to manipulate but really he's more of a narc.
OMG I have been binge watching your videos for the last few hours. You crack me up. I've been laughing for the better part of the day. Love your realness. Can't wait to see your website. Keep up the great videos!
I don't agree with 100 percent of the things you say but you're f'ing hilarious haha
when I was a young incel (term didn't exist then), I thought I was a nice guy and was mad girls weren't into me. what was not clear to me at the time was that I was a manipulative dooshbag that wanted to trick vunerable girls into givin up the goodies. so what I sayin is, the only difference between "nice guys" who do this and players is that nice guys just don't know how to do it! become a sincere dude, get a real passion in life, put in a dash of sassy and you will find chicks starting to like you!
Lol, great video, love your personality. You nailed the ending ... 😂👌
First off people classify me as the nice guy, which I genuinely am. 1st. When I tell a female friend I'm there for them, all I mean is that, no hidden agenda at all; I know none of my female friends see me in a dating manner and I've gotten over it.
2nd. I only hangout with any friend male or female when invited because I'm a shitty planner and my plans never work out the way I want so I let everyone make plans, I do have one friend I can only hang with while she's single but that's because she tends to date guys who hate her having male friends.
3rd. I gave up on dating a long time ago not that anyone knows and despite not knowing I do have female friends over a lot and we do watch Netflix or play video games without thoughts of sexual interactions to happen.
4th. Back rubs are for people in intimate relationships, so I don't give anyone one.
5th. I'd never say to anyone we can hang as just friends but also hookup
Last point I've never broken up with someone to say they deserve better, although I do have shitty self-esteem and even lower self-confidence so if a female was to ever approach and ask me out, I could see myself telling her that she deserves better and to aim higher than well me, Way higher.
Women have a very pessimistic view of men don't they... If I say "Just let me know if there is anything I can do to help out". I mean that genuinely, I have no ulterior motive. You have to be some exceptional level of self absorbed to think everything a guy does revolves around "getting" you... Maybe its the type of men you attract. Yeah its probably that.
A lot of women have this problem with their inflated egos that anyone being nice must be 'fake' or must want them. It's sad that people have such low expectations and can't relate to decent people.
Simon Vance I remember offering to show a new student around my uni a few years back and I could see her instantly become uncomfortable because she thought I was doing it to "get something" from her... it grossed me out so I quickly pointed stuff out then walked off. I got too much self respect to waste time on women like that. Leave that for the desperate fools.
as you are obviously a man, you obviously don't know how many women are brought up being fed all these prejudgemental stereotypes... combined with the wrong role models of how to treat and deal with a man, this is what you get... I personally grew up without a single man in my family and had NO idea how to deal with them and - of course - how to protect myself from getting into situations that I didn't really want... if a woman treats a man like she would treat a woman, the man resp. the situations she's getting herself into will definitely hurt her... tragically without her even knowing that it wasn't "him", but the way she dealt with him... lve
mssummerrose1 Sorry I'm not following, the grammar was a bit difficult to decipher what you were saying.
Are you saying a woman has to act stuck up to protect herself? Well she can enjoy filtering out all the good men then.
It's nothing but female projection. Don't fall for the bullshit.
you are so pretty, funny and smart and your energy is so positive
I've been watching some content similar to this trying to get a female point of view on problems they have with men, and ended up noticing a recurring theme... it's how often women just play themselves, the "I can change him" thing women do even though he just told you his intentions blows my mind.
All of your videos seriously make my day! Seriously its all incredibly straight forward information that we try to act like its not true lol you're amazing!
damm Amy, if u got all of these guy's coment on ur video it means they r watching cuz they kn what u kn is real. ..some r mad at u cuz u r reveling their stupid secrets which they call "guys code" to get anything tgey can possibly get 4m a women ...
ur doing a good job, and u have a lot to say about the truth of the mater. ..keep going..many blessings
Fricken frack your right about all of this! Glad I found your channel! Love that your a goofball haha
Yes! Dis girl knows her stuff.
Not sure about the video ending, but like what you have to say👍🏻
Completely right except for one detail. The being there for someone when they break up has the intentions breakdown as follows.
90%: hoping you will make a mistake and mess around when emotionally vulnerable
9%: (this one is me) hoping they will realize that you have their back and after they are over their ex, you will pick them to date next
0.9%: just really good straight friends with no interest
0.1%: the gay best friend
Im in the 9% and I think that that one is important to note. Not all guys are trying to use you with that line. Some are just pathetic males who desperately want your love and affection and will try to show how much they care to get it when they know they never stand a chance (me).
Wow how many times have you been used by men?
a lot and it wil continue to rise all the time she maintains she wants a good guy !
Fooled you once, shame on them. Fooled you twice, thrice, forth, fifth, sixth, etc., shame on you.
This is just your best video! I like it so much! You are definitly crazy that's what make ur video addictive and this one is so so fcking relatable and accurate! I already know guys comment are epic, I may come read that one day if I feel down to realise how down these db can feel haha!
Wow. Talk about bitter and paranoid.
Yes, some guys will use a girl for sex. But odds are she is driving a lot of them away with her negativity.. She's pretty, but that only gets you so far. Based on this video it seems like it would be a chore to hang out with her. Guys want to be around girls who are fun, positive and non judgmental. She is wound way too tight.
If a lot of guys are using her for sex and then ditching her she needs to look at herself, not the guys. She is the one common denominator in all the relationships. There are lots of girls that have no trouble keeping a guy. I don't care how into you a guy is, they can only take so much over analyzing and insecurity.
I only 18 , i can say you know your stuff ! And your really adorable! :) keep up the good work!
all i see id butthurt comments from "nice guys" 😂😂 keep up the good work Amy, you're obviously doing it right!
This one helped me a lot! (Tempted to send this to him.) Thank you. Subscribed and getting the word out.
Timeless videos. Watching in 2021
When a guy says I can’t give you what you deserve BELIEVE HIM!! Cause he’s being honest. DON’T WASTE TIME THINKING HE WILL CHANGE.
You are a really beautiful person. I love watching your videos you have helped me cope so much. I have the I don’t want a relationship. Not with you not with anyone. But yet we have relationship everything. Communication (good and bad) intimacy. He keeps me on lock so I can’t move but he says I’m gonna do what I want. He preaches the gospel but calls me a whore a bitch a this a that. He gets annoyed when I ask are you ok? He totally owes me money. I feel like a total idiot. But you help me so much. I won’t let a man be this manipulative ever again. Oh ya he encourages me and he gives me advice but I’m learning words are cheap and actions definitely speak louder. ❤️
Based on her mentality I see why all this happens to her. She seems easy...
I'm already guilty of #2, but thanks for the other ideas! :) ps. I'm always here for you if you need a backrub. We totally don't have to do anything else...
well...I told her... (crossed eyes) I'm dead lol...you're sooooo funny 😂
As a nice guy I'm afraid to say that everything she just said is true. Even though that's how I think and do things, I always end up in a friendzone.
Loving your videos Ms. Young! :)
This is why MGTOW will spread, MGTOW doesn't have to do anything to recruit men into its philosophy. Such videos keep proving the Philosophy right every time. I mean, do you fucking enjoy walking into the trap that your detractors have set up for you?
lol this is giving me tips on how to manipulate women
It's awesome that women continue to take no responsibility in all this. As long as you blame guys for everything we can keep doing it and you're powerless to stop us. We can lead you anywhere we want you and you'll come right along with us because, whatever happens, it's not your fault, just blame the guy and you're off the hook.
Here I learned that offering a back rub is a crucial move to flirting. Thanks Amy Young. Guess I need to work on my massage moves.
This is what happens when you give away sex without a long-term commitment. If you as a woman want a long-term and emotionally fulfilling relationship, sex should be reserved not used as the hook. Insisting on waiting for sex, will filter out most if not all of the players.
I actually brought someone to my room and nothing happened no i wasn't pushy either so that point is bullshit
Guy's take notes here, this is why you need to learn how to give a good massage.
No problem :]
And absolutely, we just have to learn to look past it.
Yea Amy,and what your really saying is you are having a hard time holding down a bad boy.
This is the dumbest thing i've ever heard about "nice guys"..... cuz obviously there are others like "good girls" that are not good girls, sluts or whatever .. and everywhere you'll find good people and bad people, that's how life's working !!
But that's kind of offensive on being a nice guy, or being a getelman.. You said it yourself, life is all about learning from the mistakes that we made and don't make them again.
Nice gentlemen like me get left with the nice sweet overweight girls that look like Olga and we are told they need love too. Someone shoot me please
I'm a guy and i found this piece amusing, in fact very funny ... and 100% factual. Thats how fellas really are ; that is how they think.
rofl "that's what she said" nice Amy lmfao
Yeah, it's the same old story. Nothing a guy does is ever good enough for those self-righteous, entitled women.
ECO473 yup
Men get butt hurt so damn easily. Nothing she said was a lie. Your'e just mad because we are on to you!
ECO473 if you're nice with the ulterior motive of sex and expectation that any vague gesture of kindness is to be rewarded with sex, what you're doing isn't really for them, is it?
@Jake Silbey: Even if you're decent with NO ulterior motive, it still isn't good enough.
siennavine81 it's the same with women. They get butt hurt when they are rejected, because they can't handle rejection
I'm really sorry you've had all these bad experiences. Although it's important to know not all guys are like that. There are definitely those of us who actually will be there for our female friends without any sexual intentions. Another thing is, just because something is cliche or over-said, doesn't make it false. There are scenarios where we can't fulfill the personal needs of our partner, and vice versa, and break up because of it. Loved the video, just wanted to clarify we're not all bad :).
After watching that video I am so very glad and lucky that I have been happily single for the past 38 years. I can happily keep women in the friend zone without any emotional or sexual attachment and live my life happily as a very happy single man. I wrote an article for 2 pages on Facebook about my love of the friend zone and not wanting or having sex for 38 years. So I am proud to say that my nice guy moves in the friend zone are fair dinkum:)
Why are you not getting more views?? Granted, I hope girls are not viewing this one, as you're killing guy's game with this one. You're just awesome.
Not only do nice guys finish last, they get shit on just for being nice guys. Don't be a nice guy.
Read my mind on that one! Especialy the ''wont do anything'' part...
What? I expect my friends to be there for me in hardships, even if we have 'something going on'.
what exactly is wrong with just fucking seriosly why is mindless sex a bad thing
How cute you're so young here! Still have the model looks!
Damn, already feeling sorry for the guy who marries this girl.
Already complaining, god damn! This is just before a serious commitment. god damn, imagine this girl after.
I really loved cousin It from the Adams Family :)
Just subscribed and looking forward for the upcoming "conversations" :D
when i hear the term, "nice guy", because of reddit, i typically think of the fedora wearing neckbeard xD
This is Spot. On.
Him saying he doesn't want a girlfriend b/c they are "too much trouble" & "he has no time" but then all of a sudden has some chick moving in w/ him.. Or "I don't want to sleep w/ you b/c I respect you too much as a friend" and then he sleeps w/ you. lol....
Hahahaha I love how you apologized to your parents!! XD
Just don't give it up until you know that he is a "good man", not just a nice guy. And that takes time.
Sometimes guys ask girls to have sex pretty early in order to test girls. If a girl accept to have sex too easily the guy will think she is too easy and will run away. But if the girl makes the guy wait he will find her more interesting and will respect her more. It's kind of a test. It depends on guys of course. On the other hand many other guys just want to get laid and never come back.
i'd have to disagree with 2:32, because i was that guy. i didn't think being with me was worth all the family/studying abroad problems she had to deal with, and I ended it in hopes she could be happier with someone else. maybe some guys say it because they want to keep them as booty calls. maybe others just didn't have enough self-worth to think they're good enough for her. either way though, i don't think those are the kinds of guys anyone should want to be with.
+Faizal Ali , she's generalizing too much and that sends a wrong message. You're right that a guy could find himself unworthy if he feels he needs to be a provider, which is how most men feel in general, and doesn't like the idea of the woman wearing the pants being the provider. That's intimidating and challenges one's masculinity.
Sacrilege83 yeah, unfortunately i felt like i had to be the one providing all the time, and when I couldn't do that, I left the relationship entirely. i can only take solace in knowing that my ex is in a happier relationship now, and that at least this experience has taught me something valuable.
Some won't hang out with someone of interest of the opposite gender if they're in a relationship, because (s)he was raised to see it as inappropriate. They might see you from time to time and if they find out you're single later, will probably try to spend more time with you. P.S. If you want the best possible chance of landing a real man. Turn down everything that normally leads to sex until the prospects of a future with that person are unquestionable. And stop running away from guys just for primarily having habits of men who are not always trying to get laid nor have experience with female friends.
This reminds me of the first few episodes of How I Met Your Mother when Ted kept waiting for the “window of opportunity”. He kept trying to modify his behavior so that he wouldn’t be pushed away as being too forward but she would still be interested by maintaining a distance in case she decides that she might be catching feelings. Like a friendzone purgatory.
That awkward moment where you realize a marathon of Mario Party back at your place for the end of a date is crossing the line O.O xD
Lots of projecting here. Take responsibility for your mistakes.
If a guy breaks up with "I think you deserve better than me" or something similar, it might be only one side of the truth or even not the truth at all, BUT at least he tries to be POLITE. Isn't that so much better than the blaming and shaming attacks that some girls are ranting at their partner when they want to leave the relationship?
Yeah and the guy might really just have a low self esteem and think he doesn't deserve the girl. Guys are not some machoalphamachines. Generalisations like the ones on this video only tells that she doesn't know many guys that well.
Ha! - An Honest Woman?! - Genius!
I super love this natural look on u!
Unfortunately I learnt these moves about 6 months ago. However, he's come running back. How do I play this? I don't want him anymore but wouldn't mind a tiny taste of his medicine.. Just a tiny one. Don't wanna get too invested! Btw. Just found your channel. Love it!
Well there are guys who just want to hook up or ons and tell it to you.
That's ok. It might be hard to meet some of the women which only want sex too, but it's not impossible.
Then there are the guys that pull every emotionally manipulative trick in the book to get the girl layed. That are the players.
Then there is the guy that tells you that he is so nice, too good for this world and expects sexual favors of you cuz he's so freakn nice - that's the nice guy.