around 13:00 youtube claimed a song and it was around 2 min, audio is fine after that, so if the audio sounds weird that is why. Please enjoy the video!
Just consider how crazy pirate warrior was back in the day: Rarran got that priest down to two health on turn 5, and would have had lethal if Patches had charge (like it used to) and he remembered to swing on turn 1. Oh and he spent turn 4 playing a frothing berserker which got answered. Oh and the priest had Renathal, which didn't exist at the time anyway.
Pirate Warrior was a big reasons for me taking a break from HS for a while. It almost always went off really well and if you didn’t have an early answer or really strong control, you were dead in a few turns
@@eXJonSnow It was just a badly tuned deck, there was virtually no gameplay choices to make when you were dead by turn 5. The game just wasn't designed to be that quick.
@@MydrecaNaPopa at the time of pirate warrior, no, you couldn't realistically ko your opponent by turn 5. Even the greediest control deck would be able to still be alive by that turn just with hero powers against most aggro that had existed until then. The only thing that could pull off lethal that quick was miracle rogue getting insane luck, dropping a huge early edwin, and the opponent just not having answers to it. EDIT: that said, face hunter could do it by turn 6 or 7, and similarly so for other aggro decks. Also, technically murlocs could do it that soon vs a class with no minion damaging hero powers, but most of the time until then murlocs generally sucked because it was very easy to clear them away and they hadn't gotten some of the insane support tools they would.
I think chat got upset over tip the scales paladin because they nerfed it so fast people don't remember it very well. That shit was absolutely ridiculous.
@@darkjackl999 Everything about the deck was a bit of a fever dream to be honest. It didn't get discovered until very near the end of the expansion, contained a bunch of previously terrible meme cards and had like 8 different win conditions. Then despite having one of the highest win rates in HS history, nerfing Abbes Allura by one single mana killed it.
Cubelock is one of the most iconic decks ever imo. It was super dominant, and insanely strong, but it had such cool tools, was really complicated and had a huge skill cap. I want stuff like that back, maybe in a more balanced way, but I loved it :D
oh don't worry about balance, cubelock is underpowered nowadays compared to modern archetypes. It is basically unplayable in wild lol. Control decks need much much faster wincons these days
Yes such a huge skill gap eating your own doomguard summoned by the weapon and dark pacting the cube was so skilled. Or dark pacting the possessed lackey
Imo thats Patron Warrior, Cubelock is close but Patron was genuinely a special deck in the history of the game. Shit was really hard to play yet super popular because of how cool the combo was and seeing even the best players sometimes struggle to execute it was so unusual for otherwise simple game.
@@Caio-ow5tm Just saying the facts. Using skull at 5, and eating the doomguard it summons with cube and destroying it with dark pact at t6 doesn't sound skillful to me. Or use a lackey at 5 and coin dark pact to summon a 5/7 charge or a 3/9 voidlord. Not to mention Guldan was a big fuck you card to any control decks
I think keleseth rogue would have deserved at least an honorable mention. It was literally a tier 1 with jade druid and Raza Priest around, imagine what it could have done in any other meta
that Tempo Rogue was pretty nuts but it wasn't the strongest deck in the meta and it isn't as strong as the others, definitely worth the mention tho it is such an iconic deck
@@rajkanishu I don't know the right answer, the power level difference to the meta of garrote rogue is too much plus the only time I quitted was during stormwind to alterac's miniset (for obvious reasons) but still if keleseth rogue was even with jade druid and Raza priest (both are in this list) in both ladder and tournaments I would shyly say it had something more of the others rogue decks
24:27 Raza is an ethereal, beings made of pure energy bound by magic cloths (altough in Raza's case I guess he uses those chains?), and one of the coolest races in WoW which of course means they will never be playable even though people have been asking for it for years. Raza himself is OC, tho. There are other ethereal characters in HS, including Rafaam, Erkh, Saraad and Zerek.
there's always the potential for a K'aresh expansion where they become playable, I've seen some people create fan versions of such an expansion and it definitely seems possible
Jade Druid had a card printed pretty much just to counter it (the minion that deleted all 1 cost spells from both player's hand and deck), so that says something.
You can still call the mechanic broken, but iirc, during MSoG and JtU, Jade druid wasn't that disgusting. It was KotFT with Ultimate Infestation that made the deck broken. Yes, even with Skulling Geist being on the same release.
Every time someone mentions caverns below being nerfed twice, I always think of how it actually got nerfed 3 times because they changed its interaction with sonya shadowdancer
@@ThelastProdigywild HS is insane, but nothing will touch OCG/TCG Yugioh. The game is win by turn 1 or die for half the decks, the other half is “you can’t play cards pass turn”.
(copypasta by u/Taxouck (i think)) Aya Blackpaw is the reason I work out. I have this fantasy where we start talking at Talan's Bar with her approaching me saying 'Golems are a girl's best friend.' We exchange a few pleasantries. She asks what I do. I say i'm a main Aggro Shaman. She laughs. I get my drink. 'Greetings, friend.' I say and walk away. I've got her attention now. How many guys voluntarily leave a conversation with Aya Blackpaw? She touches her neck as she watches me leave. Later, as the night's dragged on and the coterie of gorgeous narcissists grows increasingly loose, she finds me on the balcony, my bowtie undone, summoning a jade golem. 'Got a spare?' she asks. 'What's in it for me?' I say as I hand her one of my big green boys. She smiles. 'Conversation with me, duh.' I laugh. 'What's so funny?' she protests. 'Nothing, nothing... It's just... don't you grow tired of taunt minions?' 'You get used to it,' she says, placing her 7/7 and handing me back the 8/8. 'What would you do if you weren't a playable card?' I ask. 'Jade druid, I think.' 'And if I was your student, what would I be learning?' 'Infinite value,' she says quickly, looking up into my eyes, before changing the subject. 'Where are you from?' 'Gadgetzan,' I say. 'Oh wow. That's lovely.' 'It's ok,' I admit. 'Not everything is to my liking.' 'What could possibly be not to your liking in Gadgetzan?' she inquires. 'I don't like Kazakus,' I tell her. 'It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.'
31:10 is my absolute favorite hearthstone deck ever! It’s like the only time I’ve felt totems were actually competitive, and it was pretty cheap for me as the only money I had spent on the game at that point was the adventures and I just substituted a different weapon for doom hammer and there you go every thing is like rare or common.
I was actually hugely surprised Original Shudderwock Shaman wasnt one of the 3. I thought it was kind of insane at the time, gaining nerf after nerf to cards not even in the shaman class too, but maybe Im mis-remembering the winrate back then.
Shudderwock was never the best deck in standard it was just hyped up as the boogeyman because of how potentially insane it could be. At its peak it was like a tier 2-3 deck during the boomsday project
@@henryzelman4541i mean it was more like control deck and ladder was almost always dominated by agro decks. I loved for example freeze mage, but it was so complex it had barely above average winrate.
This was a lot of fun! I stopped playing after Rastakhan's Rumble so I knew a fair few of these, but not all of them! Thanks for putting them through their paces.
i love how - in the intro - when he talks about the strongest a class has ever been... " , no warrior on screen, but it pushes in from the left, like : " hey guys..i'm good too ! " I know it was just a fly-by scroll-effect , but funny all the same considering the state of warrior
I feel like kingsbane rogue desrves a mention, it was way more consistant than caverns and with the old leeching poison it always felt like you could do nothing against it
wasn't kingsbane rogue not more a wild deck than a standard deck could be wrong but i think i remember it only really being a problem after it rotated out of standard
I am primarily a wild player hence my hatred for the deck in particular, though as someone who liked the old Oil rogue deck with blade flurry hitting face, guess I am not one to talk
As a main Shaman from the very launch of the game, all those years of suffering were worth just so to have those glorious early days of Galakrond Shaman
@@beardyjesus4591 The deck is wonky as fuck, like it just doesn't feel worth it, i crafted it since i had almost all the card and it was medicore and unfun to play, takes too much effort for too little of a reward. Like by comparison thaddius otk rogue is a medicore deck but at least it's memey and fun, warrior is just meh.
“Watch, watch how good this deck was. Watch this s#!t!” *20:28** happens* I'm watching Rarran! In all seriousness, you were so lucky you had Fishy Flyer in hand.
I left hearthstone during witchwood and came back last December playing classic and death knight in standard. Thanks to this video I rebuilt the jade druid and discovered I had in wild two golden legendaries I never even saw. Now I have more dust for the next expansion 😂
When you got to Shaman and said Trogg overload wasn't its best deck ever I was like "What? What kind of Shudderwock build was stronger than this in Standard?" Then I saw Galakrond and suddenly I remembered, probably top 3 most broken Standard decks of all time, the most infuriating thing is that it was instantly obvious from the moment they revealed the cards that it was going to dominate that much, I remember even getting into arguments with people on UA-cam that somehow believed it wasn't that good
Yo rarran! Im a Former legendplayer but didnt played hearthstone for years now but just cause of you i found my Was back to it. So i just wanted to thank you Bro keep up the cool Videos ❤
To answer your question, I played HS from classic to the release of DH. Then I quit and never turned back. But I still watch your vids, they're very enjoyable (especially the content milking from Reynad xD =)
I am so glad that the quest rogue version is the correct one with 5 mana giggling inventor, even though that was the third or fourth version. The previous versions were not that good relative to their formats, but giggling inventor quest rogue had only one counter, which was completely otherwise unplayable aggro mage.
If there's one deck that still traumatizes me, it was Star Aligner Druid, aka Death Star Druid. If you were worried about facing it, you did not run 6 cost cards. Juicy Psychmelon gave them their entire combo, and ended the game on turn 6, so there was no point in running anything costing over 6. That deck was the reason I started running Secret Mage.
That Tip the Scales Paladin deck looks like a more modern version of Anyfin Can Happen, which _also_ was a disgusting deck that instantly won through murlocs after playing a spell, but it required a lot more setup than just a simple "play the 4 drop"
I was looking if i was the only one who remembered anyfin can happen. At its time it cost 10 mana, your murlocs had to die and yet it was broken... looks like devs didnt learn anyfin haHAA
gvg tempo mage was pretty insane. old mana wyrm, old sorc apprentice, flamewaker were all busted. you could clear board with flamewaker pings and cheap spells while your mana wyrm scales up and then finish with burn.
13:22 No is not, is considered a consistent wild staple FOR YEARS, an absolute powerhouse and arguably *the best 5 drop* overall alongside Guff. Decent tempo, massive disruption, fits in a lot of decks and is kinda necessary for wild's health since it shuts down combo so well, because there's no real counter to fast combo in a card game. PS: Raza is still quite good nowadays, altough not insane because control loses to combo hard. And yes, it would be good, but it would use the better support it gained over the years from control/quest priest.
Libram paladin was the first and last deck I hit legend with, and with an absolutely disgusting 85% wr. I would easily consider it the best paladin deck ever personnally.
Galakrond Shaman was so broken after release, that on hs replay that deck had worst matchup versus itself (50% obv)… so any other decks was a positive matchup for shaman
Fun fact, Madam Goya is the most broken card of all time in hearthstone. As in, for a while, it enabled some absolutely ABSURD bugs, especially with Chameleos, which led to the entire "transforms in hand" mechanic to get reworked. Feel free to look up some old videos of glitches possible with this card. I know Hysteria had a good one at the time
Funny thing about cube warlock, as at the time it was very popular Frost Lich Jaina was also a deck worth playing. Overall Frost Lich Jaina basically countered the cube warlock very hard, the only thing that could outpace the Jaina was the weapon. I put 2 acid spitter just because like 1/3 of the decks I encountered were cubelocks, and acid spitting their weapon meant that Frost Lich Jaina just wins. The tactic? Just mulligan everything that is not the acid spitter and frost lich jaina away and play your cards, you win! it was like 1:9 matchup
Rarran my man, any chance you can get our boy reynad to react/discuss the core card changes with you? Many of these cards were relevant when he was active, it could be interesting to see his thoughts on the new baseline + the overheal change might be something he'd appreciate on a gamedesign perspective
16:05 I'm confused, why doesn't it fundamentally play the same anymore? I never played around that time, so did something get nerfed? I looked at all the cards' patch changes, and they all look exactly the same, so why doesn't it play the same anymore?
Tortollan Pilgrim was nerfed - now it pulls card from your deck, in the past it cast a copy, therefore you could freeze enemy board and cast potion of illusion each turn as long as you didn't draw all copies of these spells.
Cubelock is the most fun I've ever had, if you can line it up you can get defile up to like 20 pops but Pirate Warrior was the most dominant deck in hearthstone history even now, a pre-nerf pirate warrior would destroy every single deck in the game.
Rarran your next challenge should be making the worst archetypes for each class better. You take the worst archetype blizzard has ever pushed for a class and you use new cards to try to make it win while still making sure the archetype was the reason you won
Now wild is wild. Players are capable to clear full board of 30/30 jade golems for a few turns in a row. So, they die from fatigue with "each player draw 5 cards a turn".
Odd Paladin was so dominant in Standard that they had to move it to Wild an entire year early, where it has continued to be a top five deck to this day. Neither Secret Paladin nor Scales Paladin have that legacy.
Rarran how did you not mention hunter from Rastakhan's rumble??? In the words of the great Firebat, "Hunter was like a 3-phase boss fight. It had the early game with springpaws and razormaws, the Zul'jin reload, and the Deathstalker endgame final form." Followed by a close control warrior at the time.
Not even close to as dominant as the others, remember that the entire year of the raven was completely owned by Baku and Genn Paladin, which weren't even mentioned in this video
@rajkanishu We must be playing a different game then. It was control warrior vs hunter, and everyone else was below them by a mile. I was saying during Rastakhan specifically.
i've been off hs for a while now, i've seen DK and it looks amazing. I wonder how much better the game will be with the spec setup dk have. Im looking forward to this change to give hs another try.
Droppin my 2c lol for honorable mentions: FoN combo druid, lot of cards tweaked due to how strong it was. Any shenanigans with 2 mana sorc apprentice for mage (freeze mage comes to mind). Patron and Fatigue warrior, one was a test in quick math and also lead to the decline in charge mechanics... fatigue warrior was just balls to play against and would pop up when the meta got control heavy against aggro. Miracle Rogue, still exists but so many cards have been tweaked or nerfed due to it. I know Secret Paladin got mentioned but it still was pretty gross when they had a perfect curve all til Dr. Boom. But for highest WR, people learning patron or miracle on ladder will easily tank it, similar to miracle rogue today. Shrug.
I have played wild since un goro so i don't really know all this decks that much, a second part with wild decks would be really cool, sadly some of those decks don't exist right now like questline warlock or histery priest
For each class in my opinion without watching the video: Death Knight: Frost DK with construct at 3 mana Demon Hunter: Aggro DH when DH first came out Druid: Jade Druid Hunter: Undertaker Aggro Mage: Freeze Mage with Ice block Paladin: Odd Paladin Shaman: Galakrond Shaman on release Priest: Raza Priest Rogue: Caverns Below Warrior: Grim Patron/Pirate Warrior. Close call between those two decks Warlock: Demon Seed Lock with 3 mana runed mithril rod
Did anyone else’s audio start to sound like it’s under water at about the 12min point? Cause I hit an ad and it’s normal, and before that it was normal It gets back to normal at about 15:42
It was nerfed VERY quickly, but the recent iteration of big rogue that required Kobold Illusionist to get nerfed to five mana I think is arguably as good as the rogue decks shown here. Also the current pirate rogue deck in wild is also extremely good. Rogues have a lot of choice for which was best because they've had their share of great decks.
Chat: wth rarran why aren't you playing an all vanilla monster challenge Cmon guys we don't want him getting burnt out, let him have *some* fun (before we send him back to the mines)
Garrote rogue had 3 cards nerfed. Octobot, garrote and penflinger(pen flinger nerf should not matter under most circumstances tho, since it was mainly used to trigger octobot or clear board). It was without a doubt one of the strongest rogue deck ever. In standard anyway.
around 13:00 youtube claimed a song and it was around 2 min, audio is fine after that, so if the audio sounds weird that is why. Please enjoy the video!
Starts around 12 mins papi
Underwater Rarren Pog
I personally enjoyed the underwater audio
I thought the editor was doing the Charlie Brown adult joke again for a while
shoutouts for using grab a cab i legit listen to that in my spare time
Just consider how crazy pirate warrior was back in the day: Rarran got that priest down to two health on turn 5, and would have had lethal if Patches had charge (like it used to) and he remembered to swing on turn 1. Oh and he spent turn 4 playing a frothing berserker which got answered. Oh and the priest had Renathal, which didn't exist at the time anyway.
Pirate Warrior was a big reasons for me taking a break from HS for a while. It almost always went off really well and if you didn’t have an early answer or really strong control, you were dead in a few turns
@@eXJonSnow It was just a badly tuned deck, there was virtually no gameplay choices to make when you were dead by turn 5. The game just wasn't designed to be that quick.
Cant most aggro decks do this if the oponent is pretty much afk?
@@MydrecaNaPopa at the time of pirate warrior, no, you couldn't realistically ko your opponent by turn 5. Even the greediest control deck would be able to still be alive by that turn just with hero powers against most aggro that had existed until then. The only thing that could pull off lethal that quick was miracle rogue getting insane luck, dropping a huge early edwin, and the opponent just not having answers to it.
EDIT: that said, face hunter could do it by turn 6 or 7, and similarly so for other aggro decks. Also, technically murlocs could do it that soon vs a class with no minion damaging hero powers, but most of the time until then murlocs generally sucked because it was very easy to clear them away and they hadn't gotten some of the insane support tools they would.
@@henriquepacheco7473 No, I played during the Pirate Warrior meta, it was fairly common for Pirate Warrior to have turn 4 lethals.
"We've had the strongest each Hearthstone class has been.
What about the strongest each Hearthstone class has not been?"
- Maestra, probably
Now you got me thinking...
The strongest each class has ever been is just rogue using maestra and rolling class a few times
Warrior this last year lmao, he was good like 2 weeks on sunken and got nerfed HARD
@@Tyiriel maestro rogue wasn't that strong. There was a rogue decks with more high winrate.
I think chat got upset over tip the scales paladin because they nerfed it so fast people don't remember it very well. That shit was absolutely ridiculous.
it was super toxic lol but it felt so good
I loved playing it for like one week lol
How did it get nerfed?
@@darkjackl999 abbess got nerfed from 4 to 5, but then it wasnt worth to craft cuz most cards got rotated in the next set
@@darkjackl999 Everything about the deck was a bit of a fever dream to be honest. It didn't get discovered until very near the end of the expansion, contained a bunch of previously terrible meme cards and had like 8 different win conditions. Then despite having one of the highest win rates in HS history, nerfing Abbes Allura by one single mana killed it.
Cubelock is one of the most iconic decks ever imo. It was super dominant, and insanely strong, but it had such cool tools, was really complicated and had a huge skill cap.
I want stuff like that back, maybe in a more balanced way, but I loved it :D
oh don't worry about balance, cubelock is underpowered nowadays compared to modern archetypes. It is basically unplayable in wild lol. Control decks need much much faster wincons these days
Yes such a huge skill gap eating your own doomguard summoned by the weapon and dark pacting the cube was so skilled. Or dark pacting the possessed lackey
@@ardaoguzhan8181 you mad bro 😭😭😭 #cubelockersFTW
Imo thats Patron Warrior, Cubelock is close but Patron was genuinely a special deck in the history of the game. Shit was really hard to play yet super popular because of how cool the combo was and seeing even the best players sometimes struggle to execute it was so unusual for otherwise simple game.
@@Caio-ow5tm Just saying the facts. Using skull at 5, and eating the doomguard it summons with cube and destroying it with dark pact at t6 doesn't sound skillful to me. Or use a lackey at 5 and coin dark pact to summon a 5/7 charge or a 3/9 voidlord. Not to mention Guldan was a big fuck you card to any control decks
I think keleseth rogue would have deserved at least an honorable mention. It was literally a tier 1 with jade druid and Raza Priest around, imagine what it could have done in any other meta
that Tempo Rogue was pretty nuts but it wasn't the strongest deck in the meta and it isn't as strong as the others, definitely worth the mention tho it is such an iconic deck
@@rajkanishu I don't know the right answer, the power level difference to the meta of garrote rogue is too much plus the only time I quitted was during stormwind to alterac's miniset (for obvious reasons) but still if keleseth rogue was even with jade druid and Raza priest (both are in this list) in both ladder and tournaments I would shyly say it had something more of the others rogue decks
24:27 Raza is an ethereal, beings made of pure energy bound by magic cloths (altough in Raza's case I guess he uses those chains?), and one of the coolest races in WoW which of course means they will never be playable even though people have been asking for it for years. Raza himself is OC, tho. There are other ethereal characters in HS, including Rafaam, Erkh, Saraad and Zerek.
I think you messed up your timestamp but good explaination anyway :)
RAFAAM
@@mathiasblm True, fixed with the correct timestamp, thanks.
there's always the potential for a K'aresh expansion where they become playable, I've seen some people create fan versions of such an expansion and it definitely seems possible
Nothing is more "Hunter-like" than top-decking Kill Command for lethal with an empty hand.
"Name one time druid hasn't been broken. You can't." - honestly so true.
Jade druid was absolutely disgusting to play against.
There I was, trying to make a living off of my mill rogue deck. I guess we just couldn't have nice things back in Gadgetzan.
Jade Druid had a card printed pretty much just to counter it (the minion that deleted all 1 cost spells from both player's hand and deck), so that says something.
@@43bg1 Skulking Geist, number #1 tech card of the game.
You can still call the mechanic broken, but iirc, during MSoG and JtU, Jade druid wasn't that disgusting. It was KotFT with Ultimate Infestation that made the deck broken. Yes, even with Skulling Geist being on the same release.
@@andrewyp6724 Yeah, i got back into the game with KotFT. I was on a Hearthstone break for MSoG.
I haven't played HS in a long time, seeing Sorc's Apprentince at 4 mana blows my mind
Lol same
I audibly gasped
Every time someone mentions caverns below being nerfed twice, I always think of how it actually got nerfed 3 times because they changed its interaction with sonya shadowdancer
Galakrond Shaman was soooo broken on release. It was so fun to play, def felt like a villain lol
I crafted a bunch of cards for the deck. The deck was nerfed like 1-2 weeks after release. But not all of them could be refunded. It was crushing
@@Sam-tr4cy I was okay with it. I managed to climb to legend in a few days.
Now do this for wild.
Wild is a one of the most cesspool formats iv ever played in a card game i love it
@@ThelastProdigywild HS is insane, but nothing will touch OCG/TCG Yugioh.
The game is win by turn 1 or die for half the decks, the other half is “you can’t play cards pass turn”.
@@VVheeli if you've played modern Yu-Gi-Oh at all you would know that's not the case
Most of thrm are unusuble rn
@@gstellar96 but is it still stupidly fast
The guy say that because that's most people say how modern yu gi oh is
(copypasta by u/Taxouck (i think))
Aya Blackpaw is the reason I work out. I have this fantasy where we start talking at Talan's Bar with her approaching me saying 'Golems are a girl's best friend.' We exchange a few pleasantries. She asks what I do. I say i'm a main Aggro Shaman. She laughs. I get my drink.
'Greetings, friend.' I say and walk away. I've got her attention now. How many guys voluntarily leave a conversation with Aya Blackpaw? She touches her neck as she watches me leave. Later, as the night's dragged on and the coterie of gorgeous narcissists grows increasingly loose, she finds me on the balcony, my bowtie undone, summoning a jade golem. 'Got a spare?' she asks.
'What's in it for me?' I say as I hand her one of my big green boys. She smiles.
'Conversation with me, duh.'
I laugh.
'What's so funny?' she protests.
'Nothing, nothing... It's just... don't you grow tired of taunt minions?'
'You get used to it,' she says, placing her 7/7 and handing me back the 8/8.
'What would you do if you weren't a playable card?' I ask.
'Jade druid, I think.'
'And if I was your student, what would I be learning?'
'Infinite value,' she says quickly, looking up into my eyes, before changing the subject. 'Where are you from?'
'Gadgetzan,' I say.
'Oh wow. That's lovely.'
'It's ok,' I admit. 'Not everything is to my liking.'
'What could possibly be not to your liking in Gadgetzan?' she inquires.
'I don't like Kazakus,' I tell her. 'It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere.'
24:27 In case no one told you already, that is an Ethereal. Beings of pure energy who travel through space selling magical items.
"This deck is simple unless you are in a complicated situation" - Rarran
31:10 is my absolute favorite hearthstone deck ever! It’s like the only time I’ve felt totems were actually competitive, and it was pretty cheap for me as the only money I had spent on the game at that point was the adventures and I just substituted a different weapon for doom hammer and there you go every thing is like rare or common.
First deck I reached Legend with. There’s no feeling like smashing the opponent in the face with Doomhammer.
I was actually hugely surprised Original Shudderwock Shaman wasnt one of the 3. I thought it was kind of insane at the time, gaining nerf after nerf to cards not even in the shaman class too, but maybe Im mis-remembering the winrate back then.
Don't know if the winrate was that good, possibly the nerfs might have been because it was just so unfun to play against rather than winrate.
OG Shudderwock with Agatha was good but that entire year was cannibalized by Even and Odd Paladin
Shudderwock was never the best deck in standard it was just hyped up as the boogeyman because of how potentially insane it could be. At its peak it was like a tier 2-3 deck during the boomsday project
@@henryzelman4541i mean it was more like control deck and ladder was almost always dominated by agro decks. I loved for example freeze mage, but it was so complex it had barely above average winrate.
Shudderwock Shaman didn't become OP until WIld in Castle Nathria expansion
16:55
oh WOW, sorcerer's apprentice has fallen a _lot_
This was a lot of fun! I stopped playing after Rastakhan's Rumble so I knew a fair few of these, but not all of them! Thanks for putting them through their paces.
19:32 Lmao. "Sir, this is Wendy's"
Good o' Rarran going on a rant / arguing with an invisible man.
i love how - in the intro - when he talks about the strongest a class has ever been... " ,
no warrior on screen, but it pushes in from the left, like : " hey guys..i'm good too ! "
I know it was just a fly-by scroll-effect , but funny all the same considering the state of warrior
I feel like kingsbane rogue desrves a mention, it was way more consistant than caverns and with the old leeching poison it always felt like you could do nothing against it
God I hated Kingsbane rogue. Glad I don't see it anymore
wasn't kingsbane rogue not more a wild deck than a standard deck could be wrong but i think i remember it only really being a problem after it rotated out of standard
I am primarily a wild player hence my hatred for the deck in particular, though as someone who liked the old Oil rogue deck with blade flurry hitting face, guess I am not one to talk
Kingsbane was never good in Standard.
@@ioris8363 *dont tell him about rastakhan rumbles*
As a main Shaman from the very launch of the game, all those years of suffering were worth just so to have those glorious early days of Galakrond Shaman
Back in my day, "Secret" Paladin was called Christmas Tree Paladin
My first time legend was with Raza/Anduin Priest. That deck was filthy good at its peak.
Death knight is like warrior but if it was playable and cool
Truly reflective of the state of Warrior when Wotlk hit
Enrage Warrior is playable since Castle Nathria buffs, it is upper tier 2 by winrate. Deck is just unpopular
@@beardyjesus4591 i fell like this is some sort of meme now
@@beardyjesus4591 The deck is wonky as fuck, like it just doesn't feel worth it, i crafted it since i had almost all the card and it was medicore and unfun to play, takes too much effort for too little of a reward. Like by comparison thaddius otk rogue is a medicore deck but at least it's memey and fun, warrior is just meh.
@@bartoszbartosiewicz1123 I used it a lot with great success
The fact that he's playing at such a low elo that keeping a hand with a bunch of 5 drops works is astonishing
balls
amazing first comment!
cock even
weiners, even
“Watch, watch how good this deck was. Watch this s#!t!”
*20:28** happens*
I'm watching Rarran!
In all seriousness, you were so lucky you had Fishy Flyer in hand.
Rarran narration is one of my favorite narrations.
I left hearthstone during witchwood and came back last December playing classic and death knight in standard. Thanks to this video I rebuilt the jade druid and discovered I had in wild two golden legendaries I never even saw. Now I have more dust for the next expansion 😂
When you got to Shaman and said Trogg overload wasn't its best deck ever I was like "What? What kind of Shudderwock build was stronger than this in Standard?" Then I saw Galakrond and suddenly I remembered, probably top 3 most broken Standard decks of all time, the most infuriating thing is that it was instantly obvious from the moment they revealed the cards that it was going to dominate that much, I remember even getting into arguments with people on UA-cam that somehow believed it wasn't that good
Yo rarran! Im a Former legendplayer but didnt played hearthstone for years now but just cause of you i found my Was back to it. So i just wanted to thank you Bro keep up the cool Videos ❤
Old Patron Warrior is the strongest desk in HS history. It cannot be replicated anymore unfortunately.
And probably the hardest
Omg. I literally burst out laughing at that kidnapped Alura 🤣🤣🤣
To answer your question, I played HS from classic to the release of DH. Then I quit and never turned back. But I still watch your vids, they're very enjoyable (especially the content milking from Reynad xD =)
I’m a boomer that hasn’t played since ungorro, but you got me back into it a few months ago and I’m loving it again😃
I am so glad that the quest rogue version is the correct one with 5 mana giggling inventor, even though that was the third or fourth version. The previous versions were not that good relative to their formats, but giggling inventor quest rogue had only one counter, which was completely otherwise unplayable aggro mage.
24:30 to answer your question, I’ve never seen raza in wow, and I believe he is an ethereal (similar to ethereal conjurer)
Pirate warrior showcases the insane power of hitting face and hitting it often
If there's one deck that still traumatizes me, it was Star Aligner Druid, aka Death Star Druid. If you were worried about facing it, you did not run 6 cost cards. Juicy Psychmelon gave them their entire combo, and ended the game on turn 6, so there was no point in running anything costing over 6. That deck was the reason I started running Secret Mage.
that was a wild deck
That Priest deck was in standard, it was called Quest Hunter, and it was really good.
That Tip the Scales Paladin deck looks like a more modern version of Anyfin Can Happen, which _also_ was a disgusting deck that instantly won through murlocs after playing a spell, but it required a lot more setup than just a simple "play the 4 drop"
I was looking if i was the only one who remembered anyfin can happen. At its time it cost 10 mana, your murlocs had to die and yet it was broken... looks like devs didnt learn anyfin haHAA
Great video Rarran! Your hearthstone content is top tier
gvg tempo mage was pretty insane. old mana wyrm, old sorc apprentice, flamewaker were all busted. you could clear board with flamewaker pings and cheap spells while your mana wyrm scales up and then finish with burn.
13:22 No is not, is considered a consistent wild staple FOR YEARS, an absolute powerhouse and arguably *the best 5 drop* overall alongside Guff. Decent tempo, massive disruption, fits in a lot of decks and is kinda necessary for wild's health since it shuts down combo so well, because there's no real counter to fast combo in a card game.
PS: Raza is still quite good nowadays, altough not insane because control loses to combo hard. And yes, it would be good, but it would use the better support it gained over the years from control/quest priest.
Loved the kripp posture segment haha
6:58 coin wild growth, fandral, nourish is a real play pattern
Libram paladin was the first and last deck I hit legend with, and with an absolutely disgusting 85% wr. I would easily consider it the best paladin deck ever personnally.
Hey man, i love your style of hearthstone videos! Keep it up.
What’s crazy about the ICC adventure is that one boss that can only be damaged by weapons basically made everyone play pirate warrior at least once.
I beat him with rogue with first try. Wasn't yhat difficult
Galakrond Shaman was so broken after release, that on hs replay that deck had worst matchup versus itself (50% obv)… so any other decks was a positive matchup for shaman
I started playing slightly before the release of GVG. Undertaker hunter and secret paladin are probably the two decks that give me the most PTSD
Bro that warlock era was cursed guldan vs guldan shit went forever
This video has brought back so much trauma
21:25 I feel personally attacked by this rant, my only time hitting Legend was with Secret Paladin, haven't played hearthstone since (:
Keep up the good work Rarran
I am surprised Galakrond Rogue wasn't at least mentioned. That thing really showed why Lackeys were a mistake.
Fun fact, Madam Goya is the most broken card of all time in hearthstone. As in, for a while, it enabled some absolutely ABSURD bugs, especially with Chameleos, which led to the entire "transforms in hand" mechanic to get reworked.
Feel free to look up some old videos of glitches possible with this card. I know Hysteria had a good one at the time
oh boy, liking right, thanks for reminding me rarran s m i l e r s
Funny thing about cube warlock, as at the time it was very popular Frost Lich Jaina was also a deck worth playing. Overall Frost Lich Jaina basically countered the cube warlock very hard, the only thing that could outpace the Jaina was the weapon. I put 2 acid spitter just because like 1/3 of the decks I encountered were cubelocks, and acid spitting their weapon meant that Frost Lich Jaina just wins.
The tactic? Just mulligan everything that is not the acid spitter and frost lich jaina away and play your cards, you win! it was like 1:9 matchup
I stopped playing during Rastakhan's Rumble. Havent played since, but I still enjoy watching the content.
Now I'm interested how strong each of minion tribes has been.
Rarran my man, any chance you can get our boy reynad to react/discuss the core card changes with you? Many of these cards were relevant when he was active, it could be interesting to see his thoughts on the new baseline + the overheal change might be something he'd appreciate on a gamedesign perspective
Probs not
@@Rarran try
Didn't conjure mage run that 8 mana summon two 6(?) drops spell
at 5:00 what's the song in the background I can't get it out of my head
That druid jade was insane, I played some archetype of it for one year, never boring always Strong ahah
I am curious to see revisits of these old decks. E.g. how would cube warlock look nowadays with new cards to consider?
16:05 I'm confused, why doesn't it fundamentally play the same anymore? I never played around that time, so did something get nerfed? I looked at all the cards' patch changes, and they all look exactly the same, so why doesn't it play the same anymore?
Tortollan Pilgrim was nerfed - now it pulls card from your deck, in the past it cast a copy, therefore you could freeze enemy board and cast potion of illusion each turn as long as you didn't draw all copies of these spells.
Pre nerf quest rogue had me going crazy back in the day
You can tell pirate warrior make people happy
this guy is so fucking good at pumping these out
Cubelock is the most fun I've ever had, if you can line it up you can get defile up to like 20 pops but Pirate Warrior was the most dominant deck in hearthstone history even now, a pre-nerf pirate warrior would destroy every single deck in the game.
Idk about right now, dk is pretty strong
Rarran your next challenge should be making the worst archetypes for each class better. You take the worst archetype blizzard has ever pushed for a class and you use new cards to try to make it win while still making sure the archetype was the reason you won
Now wild is wild. Players are capable to clear full board of 30/30 jade golems for a few turns in a row. So, they die from fatigue with "each player draw 5 cards a turn".
How did freeze mage not make the cut??
fav mage deck imo. High skill high reward type of play required.
Next Challenge suggestion: Each class at the most fun they've ever been to pilot.
Boomsday Warrior deserved a mention that expac was nuts for warrior
wow a lovely gameplay video I hope it's a stream highlight next
Odd Paladin was so dominant in Standard that they had to move it to Wild an entire year early, where it has continued to be a top five deck to this day. Neither Secret Paladin nor Scales Paladin have that legacy.
Rarran how did you not mention hunter from Rastakhan's rumble???
In the words of the great Firebat, "Hunter was like a 3-phase boss fight. It had the early game with springpaws and razormaws, the Zul'jin reload, and the Deathstalker endgame final form."
Followed by a close control warrior at the time.
Not even close to as dominant as the others, remember that the entire year of the raven was completely owned by Baku and Genn Paladin, which weren't even mentioned in this video
@rajkanishu We must be playing a different game then. It was control warrior vs hunter, and everyone else was below them by a mile.
I was saying during Rastakhan specifically.
i've been off hs for a while now, i've seen DK and it looks amazing. I wonder how much better the game will be with the spec setup dk have. Im looking forward to this change to give hs another try.
Droppin my 2c lol for honorable mentions: FoN combo druid, lot of cards tweaked due to how strong it was. Any shenanigans with 2 mana sorc apprentice for mage (freeze mage comes to mind). Patron and Fatigue warrior, one was a test in quick math and also lead to the decline in charge mechanics... fatigue warrior was just balls to play against and would pop up when the meta got control heavy against aggro. Miracle Rogue, still exists but so many cards have been tweaked or nerfed due to it. I know Secret Paladin got mentioned but it still was pretty gross when they had a perfect curve all til Dr. Boom. But for highest WR, people learning patron or miracle on ladder will easily tank it, similar to miracle rogue today. Shrug.
I have played wild since un goro so i don't really know all this decks that much, a second part with wild decks would be really cool, sadly some of those decks don't exist right now like questline warlock or histery priest
That Druid he faced the first is embarrassing the community. I could do lethal that turn so easy…
guys, guys hear me out he knows heartstone
4:24 the best demon hunter deck ever was odd demon hunter from day 1 with 5 mana skull
For each class in my opinion without watching the video:
Death Knight: Frost DK with construct at 3 mana
Demon Hunter: Aggro DH when DH first came out
Druid: Jade Druid
Hunter: Undertaker Aggro
Mage: Freeze Mage with Ice block
Paladin: Odd Paladin
Shaman: Galakrond Shaman on release
Priest: Raza Priest
Rogue: Caverns Below
Warrior: Grim Patron/Pirate Warrior. Close call between those two decks
Warlock: Demon Seed Lock with 3 mana runed mithril rod
I used to play a scuffed version of that conjure mage back in the day.
Did anyone else’s audio start to sound like it’s under water at about the 12min point? Cause I hit an ad and it’s normal, and before that it was normal
It gets back to normal at about 15:42
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@@Rarran the comment wasn't pinned, but I scrolled and saw why it was the case. copyright claimed video.
I didn't mind Jade Druid, but I absolutely loved original C'thun druid
I need you to try and win with the top meme decks of all time for each class.
Going first as a pirates warrior and play on curve = GG thanks for playing
It was nerfed VERY quickly, but the recent iteration of big rogue that required Kobold Illusionist to get nerfed to five mana I think is arguably as good as the rogue decks shown here.
Also the current pirate rogue deck in wild is also extremely good. Rogues have a lot of choice for which was best because they've had their share of great decks.
This is for standard as said in the video
Chat: wth rarran why aren't you playing an all vanilla monster challenge
Cmon guys we don't want him getting burnt out, let him have *some* fun (before we send him back to the mines)
Sweet video idea
Man I wish conjurer mage was still playable in wild. Probably my favourite deck of all time while it was in standard
Garrote rogue had 3 cards nerfed. Octobot, garrote and penflinger(pen flinger nerf should not matter under most circumstances tho, since it was mainly used to trigger octobot or clear board). It was without a doubt one of the strongest rogue deck ever. In standard anyway.
i didn't play at the time, what is that banner under Aya's mana cost that keeps changing color?