The Perfect Way To Observe and Compliment Women

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  • @SynValorum
    @SynValorum 9 років тому +53

    I really like how your walking slowly then suddenly quicker as I approach from behind wheezing and grunting.

  • @HayleyQuinn
    @HayleyQuinn  11 років тому +1

    Keep going Esat- I used to be rubbish socially but developing curiosity in other human beings is a great starting point to overcoming that

  • @knottreel
    @knottreel 10 років тому +34

    I usually change the topic to the muzzle velocity of her favorite concealed carry weapon. If the girl responds favorably, we go to the coffee shop and I show her pictures of my fallout shelter.

    • @TheGuavaberry
      @TheGuavaberry 10 років тому

      haha, nice technique!

    • @dougtaylor2803
      @dougtaylor2803 9 років тому

      Knott Reel Nicely done sir.

    • @evandaire1449
      @evandaire1449 7 років тому +1

      Lol you realize that there is a dating site for concealed carry permit holders right? Keeps it simple XD

    • @jackjones3657
      @jackjones3657 6 років тому

      Ha, love it! Guessing that wouldn't work on Hayley, being European without 2nd Amendment rights and all but hey, there are lots of "fish in the sea."

    • @Archemik99
      @Archemik99 6 років тому

      Is that where she gets shot ? 😂

  • @betterdiscover
    @betterdiscover 10 років тому +7

    Your advice is far more genius than a man's, it is more accurate to the women's psychology. Your very insightful and I think the key underlining is to approach from her point of view. Sometimes us men spend more time thinking how to relate to women rather than how to comprehend them first. I enjoyed your video !!!

  • @mcdee56
    @mcdee56 8 років тому +2

    I really like how you are sincere and open, Haley! You seem comfortable being yourself. I value my own authenticity and it makes me want to get to know you better! Sincerely!

  • @andygeorge7617
    @andygeorge7617 11 років тому

    Finally! Hayley you got it right! This short video has better and more useful information than all the others I have seen combined, and I've seen a lot. It has a simple, easy to remember structure with practical advice and solutions, its adaptable to any girl anywhere, and it has specific examples of each. Thanks and keep up the good work!

  • @fodoli
    @fodoli 11 років тому

    Thanks for the advice. Usually I get puzzled trying to find something unusual that allows me start a conversation; but the examples given demonstrate that simple day-to-day details are themselves a good source.

  • @spoonman73
    @spoonman73 11 років тому

    This was actually really good. A lot of this I do naturally but have never seen it broken down like this before. Thanks for sharing.

  • @bronks1010
    @bronks1010 9 років тому +1

    Lady, I wish I would have come across your channel much sooner. These sure are golden nuggets of wisdom ^^

  • @confidentman294
    @confidentman294 7 років тому

    You are the first guru who I feel really cares

  • @Kollin011
    @Kollin011 10 років тому

    The best convo tip I've seen. I've done these things spontaneously and it really allows you connect. Just one problem; if you are a guy be careful how you compliment a women's accessories or she will think you want to buy some yourself. In fact stay away from her clothes.

  • @5740tury
    @5740tury 10 років тому +11

    Guys don't listen to her!! the only thing you need to say is, excuse me, I was wondering if you were single? the first thing you need to find out is if she's taken & interested in you, if she's not taken & interested the rest is easy after that!!

    • @dougtaylor2803
      @dougtaylor2803 9 років тому +1

      Arturo Portillo Logic....yes, that would seem the most sensible approach wouldn't it? Whether it works in this area of life I am not certain.

    • @StygianStyle
      @StygianStyle 9 років тому +2

      +Arturo Portillo That line sounds like you're taking a survey. The best openers should show your sense of humor, and show that you like meeting people just for fun, and not just to get laid. If you approach like "I need a girlfriend, are you available?" this immediately gives you less value.

  • @timesmash
    @timesmash 11 років тому

    I like how you used a number of actual, practical examples. You seem like a very helpful, thoughtful person. :)

  • @stewartrap6689
    @stewartrap6689 11 років тому

    After watching this once, I notice that it's a lot easier to think of things to say to open strangers when I'm out in public, which is a skill that I'm working on for my business. I can't open everyone, but I can think of something to say to perhaps 1 out of 4 strangers, which is better than I was able to do a couple days ago.

  • @mahmudhasan6087
    @mahmudhasan6087 11 років тому

    I think this is one of the most useful daygame related video I have ever watched. Thank you so much for the great tips. I was thinking to stop trying the daygame because of constant failure but, your video gave me hope. Now I really wanna try this technique tomorrow at the mall :)

  • @StygianStyle
    @StygianStyle 9 років тому +3

    The problem is girls know that guys don't give a crap about how you coordinate your purse and top, and most of these lines would sound very contrived and insincere, or she might think you're gay. It would be better to just be honest and tell her you want to talk to her because she's hot, or just make a funny observation about something going on at that moment. If you can open with a line that makes her laugh or smile you have sparked a little bit of interest that you can build on. It's more important to focus on creating a feeling of natural spontaneity and sincerity so she doesn't feel like she is being gamed by some desperate guy.

  • @toicest
    @toicest 10 років тому

    Her talk is pretty true, I tried that on a lot of people and it worked well. Nice job

  • @mav6232
    @mav6232 8 років тому

    great vid hayley- I like how thorough it and examples and elaborations really resonated (:

  • @ajdmmoz7354
    @ajdmmoz7354 11 років тому

    I have a thing for brunettes so I'm biased but I think your stunning Hayley. And actually one of the things I love about women in general is their ability to diversify their looks. I think its creative.

  • @HayleyQuinn
    @HayleyQuinn  11 років тому

    Really glad to hear this...

  • @therespectedlex9794
    @therespectedlex9794 9 років тому +3

    Hayley I like the way you wear your hair, a very nice dramatic colour contrast with your hair colour and that white top. (How'm I doing?) You seem very sensible and logical, I like a person who uses what they know to help others. That's very generous, you look very genuine and sound very clued up about what makes people tick. Me, I've never really learned about all that, for so many years now, but I think that this will help.
    Thank you x

    • @StygianStyle
      @StygianStyle 9 років тому

      +Marmamarquess All of that sounds very desperate. It's better to say "you're cute." and just try to have a fun conversation and make her laugh. You'll never get anywhere with a bunch of analytical observations.

    • @therespectedlex9794
      @therespectedlex9794 9 років тому +2

      On the contrary I find it the best way bar none to get laid.

  • @Sam-jq8zt
    @Sam-jq8zt 8 років тому

    Fabulous tips Hayley. Thanks for posting the video.

  • @smoothswagg12
    @smoothswagg12 12 років тому

    great video i used to struggle with conversation this video gave me the basics i need to improve my conversation skills i really like how u broke down each word into great detal to explain it great video

  • @matthiashepworth6583
    @matthiashepworth6583 7 років тому

    Ignore the negative comments. This has been most helpful. Thank you. This video has made me realise the need to viualise interactions (without psychoanalysis) to be in a positive and complimentary frame of mind. I'll start with my work colleagues!

  • @ramisidhu
    @ramisidhu 11 років тому

    its so real & genuine. very happy to see this video. thanks Hayley, you are awesome...........

  • @lionheart051droid
    @lionheart051droid 11 років тому

    Thanks for your advice, really clear straight forward and to the point. I' m not really into meeting any women atm but this stuff can come in handy when just simply making conversation with women.
    Subbed.

  • @gypsytale7743
    @gypsytale7743 11 років тому

    This is honestly more helpful than half the stuff on the topic. I am tired of running into pick up artist pages, do not get me wrong I will watch something that interesting, but a lot of what they teach is common sense. I assume basically women are women and are attracted to men that are men. I mean seriously let me go to the mall, raise my shirt and rub my belly. The matter of the fact is I do what I want to do. Talking for me is awkward, I am a writer.. I love to talk and have conversations.

  • @bornetocrywolf5965
    @bornetocrywolf5965 7 років тому

    I like how you constantly drill the acronym throughout the vid. Good points. Observe Assume Relate

  • @MrCitrusfruitz
    @MrCitrusfruitz 9 років тому +1

    Just be yourself. If there is a mutual click or attration, you will feel it. No worries. Just do not expect the first girl you see on the day to be the one. No expectations is succes.

    • @StygianStyle
      @StygianStyle 9 років тому +1

      +MrCitrusfruitz "Just be yourself" is a rhetorical expression that means absolutely nothing. So is "no worries." You are one of the 99% of guys that just wait for the girl to make the move, which happens to an average guy about once a year. Wake up and realize you have no useful information to give anyone about anything.

    • @KillBoyUK
      @KillBoyUK 8 років тому

      being rich helps more

  • @ichhabegenug7865
    @ichhabegenug7865 9 років тому

    Hayley, I just had an excellent thought in relation to this whole video.
    Practice makes perfect, and you need to do things that allow you to practice more effectively. So, what if you simply spent a lot of time imagining yourself as someone else? You might make this thought-cycle automatic, so that when you see someone for the first time, almost instantly you can understand what they are feeling and can likewise have a mastery over the situation.
    Basically, it's a big cognitive empathy bump (not emotional empathy).

  • @tonyho94
    @tonyho94 7 років тому

    6:08- 6:30 A is for Assume
    What was the second part?
    I think she said "Other girls as you well know require a lot more plowing you to invest a lot more in the open of the conversation before she's gonna feel ready to respond to you. This is where you'd pause and wait if she doesn't respond to the observation. You then make an assumption. An assumption is basically a cold read, a guess about what she's like based on what you've seen.

  • @SStoopid
    @SStoopid 10 років тому

    This is gold...I actually took notes..Thanks!

  • @devinebowens852
    @devinebowens852 10 років тому

    Been looking for this video for months strictly professional and to the point 10 out of 10.

  • @ufotofu9
    @ufotofu9 8 років тому +4

    This may sound overwhelming, and at first I was like "what is she on about?" But then I realized that what Hayley is describing is just cold-reading.
    One thing though is that your observations sound a bit...for lack of a better word, girly. The observations are that of a woman or a gay man.

    • @petec1234pete
      @petec1234pete 8 років тому

      +Geoffrey Zoref Geoff is right, the girl will look down her nose at you, TELL HER SHE IS BEAUTIFUL, ASK IF SHES A MODEL, DONT BE AFRAID TO PAUSE, LOOK INTO HER EYES THEN SLOWLY LOOK SLOWLY ALL AROUND HER FACE.SHOW UR PURLY WHITES, IF U DONT HAVE ANY ..GET SOME!

    • @petec1234pete
      @petec1234pete 8 років тому

      +Geoffrey Zoref Geoff is right, the girl will look down her nose at you, TELL HER SHE IS BEAUTIFUL, ASK IF SHES A MODEL, DONT BE AFRAID TO PAUSE, LOOK INTO HER EYES THEN SLOWLY LOOK SLOWLY ALL AROUND HER FACE.SHOW UR PURLY WHITES, IF U DONT HAVE ANY ..GET SOME!

  • @Strongbear2013
    @Strongbear2013 11 років тому

    This is extremely helpful information and an easy acronym to remember with so much packed in. Although I've seen similar techniques used in other guys' videos on approaching women, it hasn't been condensed into a simple formula like this one which you don't have to struggle to remember. Thanks very much for this.

  • @Onmysheet
    @Onmysheet 8 років тому

    Getting to the conversation stage would only happen if the girl likes you just by looking at you. The look on their faces would sum up their personalities straight away.

  • @mkrump9403
    @mkrump9403 6 років тому

    I see the guys just taking one note: Say I like I like I like I like! hahaha
    6:40 if she is coordinated... That sounds such military the way she said it.
    Purposeful, vibrant, relaxed, conscientious, meditation to switch off... She will make it clear that you seem from another part of the upper side town. haha
    10:00 I believe that must of use lake of conversation SKILLS!! Let watch this!

  • @Sleppy92
    @Sleppy92 10 років тому +2

    Just another guy that loves your accent.

  • @yusufalef92
    @yusufalef92 10 років тому

    This actually worked, thanks Hayley :)

  • @tatuco8
    @tatuco8 12 років тому

    That was superb, ive added this straight to my playlist. I love that mr Hawking made a guest appearence to *thumbs*

  • @florianlightspring2274
    @florianlightspring2274 10 років тому

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  • @hectorsmith1308
    @hectorsmith1308 10 років тому

    Hi. I like how you know that we guys need help in this area. And I like that you are actually doing something to help us. Very unselfish! I'm guessing you grew up around brothers and their clumsiness with women drove you to do something for all us. I only had one sister, and one brother, but could not learn anything lol!

  • @guillermosobernesspeare6066
    @guillermosobernesspeare6066 6 років тому

    It would be very usefull to use the same skills that the ones used for Observe Birds (Without disturbing their natural ambient).

  • @sravat1234
    @sravat1234 8 років тому

    I watched a few of your videos hayley. You really are talented. I tried a few of these tips and got a good response... ciao

    • @NoName-bx2ft
      @NoName-bx2ft 7 років тому

      Sufyaan Ravat why you lying ?

    • @sravat1234
      @sravat1234 7 років тому +1

      Ask your mum

    • @NoName-bx2ft
      @NoName-bx2ft 7 років тому

      Hold on, I'm still watching yours getting fucked

  • @milpatel83
    @milpatel83 11 років тому

    "..like wrestling a polar bear or going skinny dipping in the Thames..that doesn't happen often, sometimes it does and its a gift"...I can assure that does not happen! :)

  • @esatakan3076
    @esatakan3076 11 років тому

    THANK YOU very much for this! Its really awesome and useful...
    I like that you know so much about people and socializing.It seems like you have a very observant and assuming personality while being relatable..Me on the other hand,I lack a lot in this area, so I'm trying to improve myself.. ;))

  • @papaharris340
    @papaharris340 7 років тому

    this video is good keep dem coming

  • @searchingsearcher
    @searchingsearcher 11 років тому

    No words to explain, the best. Very hard to hear such info

  • @Synchrowize
    @Synchrowize 8 років тому

    Hayley, your observations are so precise and organized. I like your attention to details. I am observatif towards women but I never tought I could express my feelings and observation in such a simple way

  • @thebrillantgreenful
    @thebrillantgreenful 10 років тому

    a good system Hayley, thank you for sharing :)
    god bless

  • @Causewisdom
    @Causewisdom 7 років тому

    This is very informative!

  • @gypsytale7743
    @gypsytale7743 11 років тому

    So this was helpful, thank you.

  • @raystaar
    @raystaar 8 років тому +1

    Love you videos, Hayley. Wonderful information, well said and well presented. You have a teeny problem with your sound,, however. I hear way too much room ambiance, and you voice echoes about a bit too much. Just move the mic closer or get a lavaliere mic. That way, your voice will be front and center, clear and clean. Again, I love your stuff. It's head and shoulders over much of the other relationship/dating videos. Keep up the great work. All the best.

    • @mr.mister4110
      @mr.mister4110 8 років тому

      Did you get any?

    • @raystaar
      @raystaar 8 років тому

      no dude. not gay, although if I were, go turbo yourself. I'm just a techie hustling work.

  • @Nerve18
    @Nerve18 11 років тому

    her eyes are amazing

  • @VictoV7
    @VictoV7 10 років тому

    Great tips!

  • @jeeveselliot7528
    @jeeveselliot7528 11 років тому

    ...it tells me that you are a very clean and take care of yourself.

  • @Sebizaahpower
    @Sebizaahpower 10 років тому

    I've NEVER had problems with women.. But after watching this video, I think I will have. :O

  • @cameronmiller6240
    @cameronmiller6240 5 років тому

    Really simple and useful.

  • @jamesgrey13
    @jamesgrey13 10 років тому

    **walks up** I LOIK UR CHICKEN NUGGETS! **keeps on walking**

  • @hvrtguys
    @hvrtguys 8 років тому +17

    How to feed a big ego.

    • @TheOmnipresent12
      @TheOmnipresent12 8 років тому +3

      +Jared D Yes... well said Jared. May I add... how to create your own personal monster.

  • @fuzzyone99
    @fuzzyone99 11 років тому

    I realize women are obsessed with changing their looks up whenever they feel that life's gotten too boring, but you really do look better in your natural lighter shade, luv.

  • @MrEGOMACHINE
    @MrEGOMACHINE 8 років тому

    I really like the color and fullness of your lips. I gather that you must hear this frequently, maybe even being self conscience if your shade is not quite right. I too also get comments on my lips being nice. I just wish there were a way to not be to be too forward in saying I wish i could kiss them.

  • @eleanor78895
    @eleanor78895 8 років тому +20

    Title of video should be " how to talk like a woman to a woman".

  • @thatguylol5766
    @thatguylol5766 10 років тому

    Just be creative and nature with what you say.

  • @shokopars1989
    @shokopars1989 11 років тому

    I like how you look at camera with those ocean shining eyes you seem like a sincere and relaxed kinda of person.
    How is this ?

  • @Hi-qw3gp
    @Hi-qw3gp 9 років тому

    Love the video miss.

  • @Thecriticofdooooom
    @Thecriticofdooooom 10 років тому

    I like how your eye-shadow is not quite the same color of your skin but still completely pointless! It shows you care. ;)

  • @darkman4747
    @darkman4747 9 років тому

    Lmao dat intro.

  • @esatakan3076
    @esatakan3076 11 років тому

    Thank you..I will.

  • @joyhuya9781
    @joyhuya9781 10 років тому

    Nice to have different prospective

  • @ErenThorne
    @ErenThorne 10 років тому +40

    So we have to talk about shit we don't care about? great...

    • @CrownOfNails
      @CrownOfNails 10 років тому +6

      Yea. Great attitude. That will you get you the girl you want!

    • @devilzdandruff9199
      @devilzdandruff9199 9 років тому +13

      Asharpshooter96
      I'd rather be real than get a girl by being FAKE!

    • @bonniebianco5918
      @bonniebianco5918 9 років тому +1

      Devilz DandruFF right. no girl wants a liar. keep it real.

    • @ufotofu9
      @ufotofu9 8 років тому +3

      +Devilz DandruFF Then why are you hear? I imagine that it's because you've not had the greatest success by being yourself. This isn't saying you have to be fake with somebody for the rest of your life; but initially meeting a girl in a romantic manner is difficult, and you at least need to break the ice in a less than natural manner.

    • @bonniebianco5918
      @bonniebianco5918 8 років тому

      i come here to feel superior.always works.

  • @noahdillehay2648
    @noahdillehay2648 10 років тому

    I'm in middle school and I really want to get to know this girl, but I'm afraid that if I try talking to her or start engaging in a conversation with her that she'll think I'm 'hitting on her'. Any suggestions?

    • @lamborger
      @lamborger 10 років тому +1

      Then don't hit on her, bro. There's a few things you have to remember.
      1) you don't REALLY know this girl. You said yourself that you "want to get to know her." Well, think about it. How did you get to the point where you knew which friends you want to hang out with and which people you didn't want to hang out with. You just interacted with them and assessed if they seemed cool. That's exactly what you should do here. Make your interest clear from the beginning (that's really important, 9otherwise you can easily fall into the friend zone) but make sure you aren't building this girl up to be something super cool that you will be devastated to lose when really you don't even know her. Just talk, be comfortable, and listen to her answers. Joke around with her and be yourself. Do not try to impress her. Remember: you don't know her and the only way to get to know her is to be friendly and comfortable and open with her.
      2) hitting on a girl means talking to her with the specific purpose of getting in her pants. Don't do that. But getting to know her is different. You have no "purpose," you just want to talk. If she can't tell the difference there is nothing you can do about it. But don't worry, most people can. So just be yourself.
      3) don't try to impress her. It will only backfire. BE COMFORTABLE and have a good time talking to her and engage her in the fun.
      Hope this helps.

    • @CVstix
      @CVstix 10 років тому

      ask her if she wants to watch Dora or some shit. you're in middle school LOL

    • @knottreel
      @knottreel 10 років тому

      Try to take classes that she likes. It's easy to make conversation when you have a common activity, like art. If she likes you she'll let you know quickly and you'll hang together. If she doesn't, then find someone else, because you can't force someone to like you. I really don't believe in the friend zone. Guys who feel they fall into that fail to realize that the girl is just not interested and wants to keep things casual.

  • @MrVilkop
    @MrVilkop 9 років тому +1

    Doesn't matter anymore, I lost the girl who I really liked :(

  • @rlgwf
    @rlgwf 8 років тому

    You should list the oar in the description

  • @celsothedevil
    @celsothedevil 11 років тому

    Hayley i like how you talk with such a emotion on your message. You seen like the type of person that my mom tell me to stay with. Me, on the other hand, i have to admit, am not luck enought. :/ ( i did it right? :D )

  • @betteryoubetter
    @betteryoubetter 8 років тому +5

    This is back-handed sideways third wave feminism. Sneaky...... Look, I'm tired of men acting like surrogate women, I'm a f'n guy, and I like things guys like (RIP Lemmy)

  • @Robocop025
    @Robocop025 11 років тому +1

    You're a very beautiful and intelligent girl. Why bothered look for a girl if I can use all these shit you just told me on you!

  • @delsodapopco
    @delsodapopco 11 років тому

    Wow Haley your tight I've jus got out of a 6 year relationship and was a Lil sketch on talking to women but o,a,r makes ao much sense I'll try it out and I'll keep u posted thank

  • @hoodgangstur
    @hoodgangstur 9 років тому +1

    your body looked amazing in that purple outfit and heels when you were walking down the sidewalk Wow!

    • @latinboy906
      @latinboy906 9 років тому +1

      +Quinton Mac Hayley does have some sexy curves. Hayley, would you like some fries with that shake?

  • @giroitalia2082
    @giroitalia2082 9 років тому

    Your alright Hayley.
    (thats a big check plus)

  • @IcarusReborn
    @IcarusReborn 8 років тому

    Very nice!

  • @DjW1986
    @DjW1986 8 років тому +1

    this is incredible advice, thank you!

  • @Aenntw
    @Aenntw 11 років тому

    I love your accent!

  • @MikeM-py2hq
    @MikeM-py2hq 7 років тому

    Does this apply to daygame only?

  • @SloveintzWend
    @SloveintzWend 10 років тому +3

    Most important lesson: don't listen to a girl's advice. Girls are extremely emotional, mood dependant, words have multiple meanings and generaly they don't even know what they want.
    A guy goes crazy over this.

  • @SStoopid
    @SStoopid 10 років тому +1

    O is for Observe....Sesame Street Style

  • @TheLun4tic
    @TheLun4tic 11 років тому

    I first read "Harley Quinn"... I'm such a Nerd... ;-)

  • @eaberrydc
    @eaberrydc 8 років тому +16

    hey there. I see that you have feet. I, too, have feet.

  • @fabianpatrizio2865
    @fabianpatrizio2865 9 років тому +1

    That's ONE ugly walk at 3:30 !!! hahaha

  • @Krazeebaby77
    @Krazeebaby77 11 років тому

    haha lol gud one Haley

  • @unjustkatana
    @unjustkatana 11 років тому

    I wish you and I lived in the same country !!!

  • @anonymous2513456
    @anonymous2513456 11 років тому

    Ha, I think fuzzyone99 has missed the point of your video entirely, brilliant case point. I like your hair by the way, It shows that your dynamic and that you care about your appearance but also like to try new things and see if you like them or not rather than just not try them at all and never know

  • @MegaLochgelly
    @MegaLochgelly 11 років тому

    I can only say one thing. Your eyes are so lovely.

  • @danona1234
    @danona1234 11 років тому

    you are very pretty and you have some good ideas

  • @averageguysgadgetguy
    @averageguysgadgetguy 11 років тому

    I'm not ripping on your advice, admittedly I am not here looking for advice as I am one of the lucky ones that just naturally Stumbles into situations usually oblivious to how Iol But Some of this sounds like common sense ... actually most of the videos are all just common sense and normal interaction scenarios ... my question is, do some guys actually need help or advice on talking to women? That seems crazy to me like how hard is chatting up a hot chick? I Swear I'm not trolling just curious

  • @peterpedant
    @peterpedant 11 років тому

    3:58 Location: Kitchen.

  • @jazzmanhuhu
    @jazzmanhuhu 11 років тому

    Auch! That was rude Hayley!

  • @HOWYOUDOIN884
    @HOWYOUDOIN884 8 років тому +2

    Women like jerks. Like I said, women love jerks. The best thing you can do is walk up to a cute beautiful woman and say "Your nose is like a fine bottle of wine in the summer, now lemme in your pants!" and then when you are done with her grab her purse and run but let her keep her cell phone so you can call her the next day. Like I said, women love jerks.

  • @hichcoc
    @hichcoc 8 років тому

    How to throw your whole being away and be forever subservient....
    H~

  • @Hiphop101ize
    @Hiphop101ize 11 років тому

    why did you make this channel? what lead you to this career or hobbie as a woman? what motivation do you have to help guys?