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- Seth and Thomas dive into what makes Swiss Army Knives so popular. Plus, a small utility folding knife, more hard-use premium knives, and what gives a knife “soul?”
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This past year I canoed the BWCA for 8 days and took the Victorinox SwissChamp with me. I had many choices of knives and multitools to take but the SwissChamp had all of the tools I needed for this trip. The large knife filleted fish, the fish scaler scaled, the scissors cut braided and mono fish line, the sewing awl and pliers repaired leather shoes, the mag glass and tweezers removed a tick, the saw helped to prep kindling, the package hook lifted a teapot off the fire, the corkscrew loosened a stubborn knot. Need I say more?
I enjoy seeing Thomas in front of the camera. His sarcastic wit is always appreciated.
its really fun to have you both in front of the camera. making DCA proud
Never settle for imitation Swiss Army Knives. The genuine article is far superior.
Not only are they far superior than the imitations, but they are superior to many other options for dedicated outdoor knives. The fact that I can take any Swiss army knife surf fishing and not worry about sand is case and point.
Yes, I've had a fake one before, and the tools bent.
@@debbiej.2168 thanks China!
Knives by Swiza are on par.
@@cintage Swiza are Swiss Army Knives for people with big hands. The tools are a lot easier to access if you don't have tiny mittens.
I have carried a SAK for 60+ years, Scouts, Vietnam and in the plumbing trade. Great, handy tool. Just recently I have given away 20+ Classic SAK, mostly to women friends. Consistently have received positive feedback from them; scissors always handy and they we amazed at how useful they were used. Do I also carry a second ( third?) folder? Yes.
The warncliff utility blade question, measure once cut twice, Cold Steel Tuff Lite (or mini Tuff Lite)
First thing on my mind was the Mini Tuff Lite as well, and seeing they are on sale you could even get 2 of them!
How they even forget it? It was exactly the only knife I immediately thought about after hearing the question.
Agree! I always have mine in my car and have used it several times.
I've got one serrated. Light, cheap, great lock... Perfect answer
@@fredelmoi would recommend the normal tuff lite not the mini. the mini uses 4116 which is a pretty bad steel, at least compared to aus8 on the normal
I own 35 Victorinox Swiss Army knives and I love them all. I love their versatility, the high quality for a very affordable price, and the variety of materials and tools depending on the multitool. My favorites are the Alox's (Farmer X, Pioneer X and Cadets), the Rambler, the Climber (in white), the Compact (in blue), the Sportsman, and my Outrider. I often carry my Cadet and Climber in my bag, and my Rambler around my neck. I own many fixed and folding knives, and my Victorinox's are among my favorites.
And I've never seen an Alox Rambler! I'd love one of those.
I love my Swiss Army knives. I have somewhere around 10 of them. They’re small, light (unobtrusive) and most average knife carriers don’t need anything with a super steel that they can’t replace if they lose or break it. Are they ideal for cutting cardboard 40 hours a week? No. But in a pinch they’re great to have if you pick the right one for you, and if someone around you wants a knife to borrow, they’re perfect for that too. People who need to borrow a knife don’t need to know about every blade i’m carrying.
Not everybody needs one... everybody needs at least 3.
Absolutely! Got a Rescue Tool in my car, a Classic on my keychain, a Pioneer Solo in my pocket (if someone asks for a knife)..and the Venture and Spirit X on my belt..and a s#itload more stuffed away in drawers around the house 😅
Absolutely.
Absolutely I have two and I bought both my wife and girlfriend a Swiss army knife as well
or one Leatherman.
The Cold Steel Tough Lite for the leather worker.
I have one and I never carry it alone. I always have a knife with it. It does things my knife can’t do.
Mine does things my knife shouldn’t do 😅
@@campuscolt65 I feel this. Like prying shit open 😂
Living in Minnesota, the SAK parcel hook works really well as a lace-puller on hockey skates.
Top Liner Lock? Oh, you mean Steve. 😂
I love my SAKs. It's not intimidating/scary when you pull it out in certain situations. Its a great car/travel knife (in the US...don't know about regs in other countries). Its one of the few knives with a file that really works. Lots of positives that far outweigh any negatives for me.
It is always nice having Seth on camera, and, the only downside of having Thomas in front of the camera, is not having him off camera, missing those snarky remarks.
Fun-Facts:
Victorinox makes SAK models with pliers that are way stronger than they look.
The scissors are also strong & sharp enough to be reliable wire cutters.
The little pliers are awesomely useful!
the SAK classic is a winner because it has scissors to cut up the buds, and tweezers to use as a roach clip !
1:37 also if you ignore the other half of that quote "a jack of all trades is a master of none, but often better than a master of one"
I like that Vosteed calls their version on the compression lock, "Top-Liner"
It's the best alternative name so far imo
I need more Thomas in my life
The crkt razelcliffe is impeccable, I work at Aldi and they provide really strange safety cutters that I find very annoying so I just use my razelcliffe for everything.
Thomas’s Pontiac hat🤩
Really enjoy Thomas and Seth together in front of the camera!
You guys should do the holy trinity:
DCA Seth and Thomas in front of the camera!
Thank you both for this video!
With the Viking away rampaging elsewhere you both did an admirable job of running the show with the help of the backup camera crew - thanks to them also and to all who help by keeping the business going.
*_You call it "The Index Lock: because you generally use your index finger to unlock it!_*
Can't believe Thomas missed his big chance to mention that the CRKT Razel(probably spelt that wrong so forgive me) is an actual true Reverse Tonto!! Great installment fellas, love the B-Team lol
New name for compression lock - *Pinch lock*
Also, press lock isn't bad. Squeeze lock is a bit of mouthful.
Pinch lock isn’t bad.
Great video, love the channel and always enjoy the videos. The interplay between two hosts steps up the game on an already enjoyable series.
I have been using and collecting knives for more than 40 years and have around 100. They cover a very wide range of kinds, countries and prices.
I like more and more the Victorinox.The consistent quality is a plus. The balance between affordability and quality too.Being non-scary at all is also an advantage. They are useful. I like to sharp myself my knives. Sharpening the Victorinox is easy and I get very good results.
Hi all, love the show! What’s the purpose of a bolster on a folding knife? Why are they so common on the classic knife styles (e.g., stockman, trapper, canoe, etc.)? I’ve also noticed that a lot of the KnifeCenter exclusives have titanium bolsters (e.g., CJRB Ekko and CJRB Pyrite Bowie). Is it more than just looks? I can’t find a good answer. Thanks!
Thomas seems like that one friend you always wanna hangout with but He never wants to come around 😎
Agreed... He never want to call me back
The compression lock could be viewed as mechanically equivalent to the Tri-Ad lock, just using the liner rather than a rocker bar as the handle's moving element. 'Tri-Liner lock' and 'Liner-Ad lock' are options. Others: 'Top Liner lock', 'Side Liner lock', 'Squeeze lock'. My favorite, as it reflects both how the liner tongue fits between tang ramp and stop pin, and how its disengaged: 'Pinch lock'.
Killed it 2 weeks in a row guys! Love that shirt Thomas!
SAK's are probably the "best" choice for edc here in the UK they're pretty much universally accepted and don't cause much fuss. They have models to suit everyone.
My Dad carries one, my daughter carries one, I carry one.
Cheers 🍻
Because Victorinox make consistent quality knives/multitools and they are at attainable prices. Plus they apparently have a good warranty.
I love DCA, but you guys are great as well. I’m very happy to see you guys on here. Thanks for the great information in a fun format.
I wholeheartedly agree with Seth's call to bring back the Rambler. I love that knife. While I'm at it, PLEASE bring back the 74mm Executive with the Pen Blade, Small Blade, Scissors, Nail Filer, and Orange Peeler. It was far and away my favorite SAK ever made (followed closely by the super tinker my late father carried for as long as I can remember). I carried one for years as my backup knife, but now that I can't get one anymore I've been relegated to carrying the Compact SD because I fear losing my executive.
I every day carry a Victorinox, I think it’s the “Climber,” chosen because it has a Philips head and a corkscrew. I also EDC a pocket knife, usually a PM2 or a Bugout, for when I need to cut something. Love and use them all regularly.
SAK poor quality? Find something better for THE PRICE. Sorry, at the price range that Victorinox plays, it's quality reigns supreme.
Hey DCA, Thomas & Seth. Really love the work you do. I'm here today to take a crack at giving the compression lock a generic name.
My understanding is; a compression lock is nothing but a top mounted/reverse liner lock with a stop pin or "wedge" attached to it. When the knife is open, the stop pin/wedge keeps the knife open & the blade secured in place. So, if people starts calling it a "Wedge Lock" instead of a compression lock, I don't think anybody would have anything to complain about. What do you think?
Victorinox rules b/c it's the perfect combination of non-threatening and utility.
I use my Compact daily. Even the parcel hook gets used to put the bikechain back on.
I have more expensive knives. But i don't carry them a lot; in my daily life as a teacher and a father they wouldn't get used as much as the Vic tools.
Definitely one of the best brands out there. I'm probably out of control but I must have no less than 2 dozen Victorinonox knives. They're fun to collect. Love Victorinox.
The parcel hook is a world class paracord tool to untie knots. I absolutely rely on it when making lanyards etc.
I have just the 6 or so SAKs. These are incredibly convenient and a great size and a decent price.
How about "wedge lock"? It kind of wedges a liner between the blade and stop pin.
Hey Thomas!!
Hey! --Thomas
Question: Working as a janitor at a school. I work at night so I have been given permission to bring my own tools for the tasks needed since kids are out when I work. I have been carrying Leatherman Free P4 and T4 for all my box breaking and screw and lock maintenance. I am looking for a fixed blade that can be deep carried in the pocket or worn as a neck knife (neck knife preferably) that won't break the bank to lessen the load on my multi tools. Is there a good small option that is ~175 with a sheath included or a cheaper one that I can get a separate sheath around that price?
Thanks for the answer in advance. You all give great information and I love the content.
Esse Izula is worth a look, 2 different steels to choose from, can add handles, set up for neck carry.
White River M1 or variant, the backpacker is a paracord wrap and very low profile with a well made sheath.
Hey DCA/crew here is something that i was hoping you could shed some light on for all us knife lovers. For example i just heard last year that ZT is affiliated with Kershaw, not to mention the whole Boker brand confusion. Hoping you can clear this up. Also we know that Byrd is Spyderco’s sub brand, and Sencut Civivi and We are all sister companies. What are the other major sister knife brands? Thx. Keep up the great content. (Also quick shout out. thx to Seth and Thomas and camera crew for manning the ship for DCA)
36:20 it should be called Sideback lock
Victorinox is the brand that is the go-to knife brand for a ton of people because it is the household name everybody knows. They're very widely available in retail and are the only knife brand most people will see and recognize growing up at one point or another. As such it has become the go-to brand for people who, for whatever reason, purchase a knife but don't possess any significant knowledge of knives and what makes them work. Sure the knives produced by Victorinox are of adequate built quality and are affordable but that is where their practical qualities end when compared to competition. The steel Victorinox uses in all of its products is of relatively low quality and heat-treated to be quite soft. The plastic and rubber used as scales in the majority of Victorinox's line-up are fragile and cannot be removed for cleaning or replacement by the consumer. The spring-action used in both the slip-joint and independent spring tools such as pliers or scissors isn't very strong nor are the springs durable enough for long-term frequent use. I believe Victorinox has become a victim of its success when it comes to the quality of its products, having become complacent with innovating with its products because they don't have to. Whilst other manufacturers have improved and innovated both with new materials and functions, Victorinox has sat idle. On the current knife market, Victorinox survives and thrives off brand recognition and the unwarranted brand loyalty of its consumers. I've personally carried a Ruike-LD51B as a multitool for about three years now and it outperforms an SAK in almost every way despite the product being based on that of Victorinox. Ruike has had to make a name for itself not through brand loyalty or lack of competition but through innovation and the quality of its products. The result is a line of products that, in terms of materials and practicality, puts Victorinox to shame.
Another great video. As always, you two killed it. Thanks. I’m telling you, The Push Lock. 🎸🔪
I carry a victorinox compact every single day, have a classic SD on my work keys and my favourite tool in my whole collection is my walnut scale evo 17 that I got as a gift on my first Father’s Day
We all know DCA is on his knife signing tour. 😊
I have a Cybertool. Use it every day multiple times.
When i hand it out to someone for cutting, i offer it with the small knife.
It never offends anyone.
But…. It weeeel cut!
Hi DCA, Seth, Thomas,
I live in France where we have a restrictive knife law and people arround me tend to be scared about knives (they find a Ladybug or McBee intimidating due to the « tactical look »). I tried a Boker multi tool but they were again scared.
So I mainly use SAK such as victorinox or MKM Malga 6. I noticed that whatever looks like a normal size SAK with wood handles tends to be acceptable, such as a Fox Livri. Wood especially seems to reassures them. If possible not locking.
Would you have any recommendations for a knife looking like a SAK or Laguiole, with a modern PM steel (Magnacut, S35VN or similar) ?
Keep on the great work !
Harry
Lionsteel CK edition.
Case Highbanks rosewood.
Tuya MAS desert ironwood.
Wesn Samla rosewood.
Fontenille Pataud Le Capuchadou.
Jack Wolf models in rosewood.
Leatherman Bond, PS style, CS style, Micra, Squirt and Rebar are non-locking multi-tools if you wanna try a different style of multi-tools.
@@icygecko thanks a lot icygecko, the Tuya MAS would fit exactly and the fingerchoil adds some safety. I did not know this brand, thanks you ! The Jack Wolf is a good option too.
At Fontenille Pataud, there is indeed some options for customization to have RWL34 or Damasteel.
@@HarryK-ir7tv I own all these as I live in the UK. Yup my Fontenille is in Rwl34 and has my name on the filework. Tuya MAS you can get it from Lamnia. The leather slip that comes along with it is one of the best too because it has a pocket clip on it. It won the best knife in a German magazine if I recall.
@@icygecko thanks a lot :)
My Swiss army "card" is awesome and probably the only victorinox I'll ever need
The mountaineer is my most carried as the scissors
And the metal file are used daily.
I argue, that unless you are in a trade of some sort, it’s the only one you need.
call the compression lock the wedge lock
I use my classic almost everyday. I use it to trim my beard and cutting down six pack soda bottle plastic. I have it razor sharp and no complaints. Oh, and it’s also an early 1970’s model that belonged to my grandfather. These things last man.
The best knife is the one you have with you. That makes the Swiss army knives the best.
The CJRB Ruffian is a great wharncliffe/utility blade as well. I have bought three
What’s a newer knife that you think will stand the test of time to join classics like the Buck 110, SAK, Case trapper, etc.
Also, the classic versions are legal to carry anywhere in Europe as far as I am aware of. If I do not choose to carry anything in particular, I carry one of them.
I go saltwater fishing several times a month and I always take a Swiss army knife as a back up folder because of how easy it is to clean out sand.
For the EDC wharncliffe - I have a Cold Steel Tuff Lite that does a brilliant job of random utility tasks. Wicked edge at the end of the hollow grind and enough thickness to back it up; unstoppable lockup, and remarkable handle comfort. Dulls pretty quickly but sharpens up super easy.
Boys you are doing such a great work!🎉
we could call the generic compression lock a pinch lock, or a squeeze lock. maybe the grip lock
I like the pinch lock, that makes sense in my brain.
@@casualcanoer2426 that would make it simple. I think people would know what we are talking about about if we started calling it that. Unless it's already taken
I have heard the term "top liner lock" to refer to the compression lock.
I have a Victirinox "Locksmith" that was purchased in Switzerland and customized at the factory with my name/date of purchase, presented to me as a gift from my parents when they visited on vacation... it is my EDC since 2000. Victorinox also has a place in my kitchen... the rosewood handled line is high quality and very capable of everyday work. Jack of all trades master of none? Yeah right... Victorinox is not a display case grail knife only used by lames to brag about the materials that they never really use except to cut open their Amazon deliveries and show off to the nerds in the office... Victorinox makes dependable gear that works for real. Don't even get me started on the 2 Victorinix INOX watches I own, one Titanium black dial and one Stainless blue dial... they are as tough and accurate as can be.
Hey Thomas, I have an OHO 111mm GAK and the saw has side to side play at the pivot when deployed that wiggles the main blade inside but deployed main blade doesn't have it. Also, The liners don't quite reach the tangs by a mm or two so there's movement there as well. Haven't gotten a lot of feedback when asking about this so idk how common or if it's a case of substandard lots... Some say rock solid, and some say lock rock. I wouldn't expect this from victorinox and haven't experienced this in any other model. Do you see any wiggle on your outrider saw? For all others that came here bc it's a SAK vid with a 111mm, what say you?
Why not call the Compression Lock something easy that just trips of the tongue, how about "The C-lock" ? Uncomplicated, straight forward and easy to remember for everyone ?
Great to see you Seth, and an absolute miracle having Thomas out from behind the camera ! He has so much more to give than just great wit during the show ?
Bless you all. 🙏☺️🤗❤️🖖✌️
A genuine Victorinox is a beautiful carry, I carry the officer Suice every day and its perfect for opening packaging and bottles every day.
0:24 LOL 😂🤣 That's exactly my humor!
Good show guys!
I have a few good folding knives but I am thinking about buying a good fixed blade now. I’m looking for something versatile, reliable and resistant, with a decent sized blade but without being too bulky.
More to the point, considering the zombie apocalypse that is inevitably upon us, which fixed blade you’d recommend as an all-around survival tool, good for bushcraft, hunt, urban use and, naturally, defending oneself from the hordes of the undead?
Congratulations on the amazing channel. You are responsible for addicting me in perceiving what should be ordinary cutting tools as collectible works of art.
Can we get a video of the top 10 most expensive knives in the store?
I have collected all of the Icons in the Beat the Icon content and I now carry a 940 Osborne more often than the Enduras that I have carried since they (and Glock) came on the scene. The sweet spot regarding price is between 100 & $200 because I really use, and sometimes lose, these knives. I have been pleasantly surprised by character of the different tools and your curating of them, so thank you for that.
Hi Knifecenter!
I'm looking for a fidget knife with a thumb hole as well as thumb studs. It has to be a frame lock or a liner lock. I've only been able to find the QSP Hornbill. Is that really the only knife with the mentioned configuration (thumb hole+studs - frame/liner lock)? Price, steel and blade shape/length doesn't matter - only the sweet fidgetness.
How much for the Pontiac hat?
Give me a chance to wash it first... --Thomas
Hey guys, I hope DCA is okay. I'm fairly new to the knife world and i don't know that many good value knives or knife brands and was looking for some options. I'm looking for a premium feeling knife around the $100 - $250 mark though if its a bit over that's fine and, due to knife laws in my country, ideally it would have a blade under 4 inches. If you do answer this thank you very much and I love your content.
I have a sak pioneer x in my bag always, and I have a rambler in my wallet attached to a small prybar, I also very much enjoy the German army trekker.
I have a question about your GAK. Could you tell me if the saw has side to side pivot wiggle and if there is any gap between the main blade / cap lifter and liners causing up and down movement? TIA
It's a shame David wasn't there for this show cause you had a REAL reverse tanto...the CRKT Razelcliff......lol
I have got the small Swiss knife on my keychain as well. Most used knife I have on me.
Pinch lock, squeeze lock, reverse liner lock, spiner lock.
Artisan Cutlery Sea Snake is the correct answer to the second question from leather worker.
When I pull out a SAK in an office environment - even a 110 mm - no one looks twice. Any other knife on that table, though, may draw serious stares (or a call to HR) when people hear the quick-open action.
Because the Farmer model comes in extremely handy
I bugged you guys for like 4 years in the comments to use the KC pull to get Victorinox to make an Olive Drab Alox Huntsman...... AND I STILL WILL,,,,,,, make it happen!!!
Possible question. I find the Case 253 Mini Blackhorn to be ideal for light duty EDC because it is dead simple, disapears in the pocket, has a long slicey blade (especially considering the compact size), and has a serviceable handle shape. Only problem...it feels kind of cheap. Is there a more upscale knife with similar characteristics?
Wassup!! KNIFECENTER ROCKS!!!
Seth: good call on the Delica. Your argument ticked all the boxes including samurai history. Now I need to go buy the k390 version....
A lot of high priced knives are hard to open and much harder to close. The last is the pits for a folder. People with weak hands are going to end up leaving them open and not use them.
Hi DCA, thank you for your channel. I’m on the market to buy a Chris Reeve 31 sebenza. But I can decide between a large and a small. Can you make a size comparison with well known knives like pm2, bugout or Buck 110 to help me out? Thank you so much. With kind regards from France !!
And Swiss Army Knives are legal pretty much anywhere you can carry a knife. No locking blades and short enough blades outside of a handful of models.
SAS,'s are made for a world wide audience. Not everyone can have a lock blade. Not everyone can have a blade over 3 inches. A lot of countries put many restrictions on what can be carried. We are fortunate. SAK is a good learning tool.
I saw they were coming out with a swiss army knife the other day minus one specific item. I thought it was going to be the corkscrew only to find out it was the blade. LoL
go Thomas, love the Pontiac hat
Hello, like the show but. You mentioned that Reate has tighter tolerances than Aerospace spec.’s? I going out on a limb, but have you seen aerospace spec’s on some of GE or Pratt components, some are held to the thousandth and the millionth.
Regarding the generic Compression Lock name, since the liner has a tab that fits into a notch in the blade, I was thinking something like "tab lock" or "notch lock." Maybe "tab notch lock." Since it's on the top side of the knife, it could also be called a "top notch lock," which it certainly is.