Good choice Cory. This is one of my go to’s, and I typically use it on every piece. Granted I did pick this up at 50% off with an EDU discount, but I think it does very well for what it sets out to do!
Percussions have always been something I had problems with, if I don’t already know the rhythm I want and kind of sound then I’m stuck. I feel like if I had this library I would only use it once I’m done composing for percs and would either replace or layer the drums with this one, but for the price I don’t find it necessary, the sound is however very good and it seems like it’s the most solid library cinesample ever did which might be why the price is so high. Anyways, thank you for this review your videos are always very neat and great to watch but I have to honest here, I haven’t watched it from A to Z I only listened to some parts of it and see what categories the library has plus your little overall opinion on it plus the little demos at the end
I bought this in the NI sale one year. I wouldn't ever buy it full price, but I do admit it's one of the better libraries I've bought. Cinebrass and Cinewinds kinda disappointed me, whereas Cineperc had everything I wanted and more. Haven't looked at percussion since then.
There is also the occasional NI bundle sale. That's probably the only way to get this library without it being somewhat of a waste of money. I hope CinePerc is in the bundle next time.
Thanks for the review. Your reviews are always the definitive word, in my opinion, so I’m always eager to know your thoughts on a library I’m considering. For percussion though, at least in music I write, the sound is not as important as those instruments that are more up front and exposed, so good enough is usually ok for me with percussion. For that reason, I listen to this, and thinks it’s better than what I’m using for percussion (typically Albion one, BBCSO, Damage 1, and NI Abbey road kits) but not sufficiently better to make a notable difference in a mix.
It has all the standard orchestral percussion, pluse some more and beyond. All in very high quality. If price is a concern *cough* there are other ways of obtaining it *cough* .
Thanks so much Cory, for the review and of course for the fixes. I just picked this up on 50% sale at Native Instruments and was stoked to get it at that price which is available for another week or so as of writing this on 24.09.22 I previously used Spitfire Percussion and was frustrated for many reasons and ended up buying supplementary instruments to augment. Cineperc has pretty much everything and with your fixes, I’m sure I’ll be happy until Alex releases CSP. Let’s hope it doesn’t take as long as you’ve supposed! Thanks again!
Had to save up like crazy for this one, but having most of my musical background in percussion, I’m always taking a bunch of instruments from this library. Even if I don’t have whatever I’m looking for, this library will. Also fun fact: cineperc used to be sold as separate libraries: orchestral, metals/woods, epic perc and ethnic. It was an odd decision, but eventually they put all the libraries into one product, which explains the insane price tag. If you bought any of the previous packs, you’d get a discount, but that’s the most I’ve seen for it. Even with its flaws, I still have a huge soft spot for this library, and with how much it comes with, I’ll always have a use for it 💚
Thanks for showing the sounds individually! Although it is on sale now (Black Friday) and is overall great and far reaching in its inclusion of mostly great orch samples, I actually like the sound of damage drums better as they seem a little cleaner especially the reverb/room tone. The roto toms in Damage are a great example of this. Love your unbiased assessment of libraries it really helps a ton in making decisions what to throw $ at.
Did you record the drum kit at 10:00 in one take, or per instrument? The multi looks like it could be a bit of a pain to use. Did you record the part on a MIDI keyboard or with an electronic kit? I have to commend you for how realistically you programmed it - it sounded like a real drummer would!
MIDI keyboard in one go. The multi's designed to work like a standard drum library where everything's coming through the one MIDI channel. You can set your own channels though if you want.
I have quite a few cinesample libraries, love their quality and love their ease of use with Native Instruments, but holy hell, they got the price WAY wrong with this one. Between the percussion I have from Impact Soundworks and the diverse collection of percussion from my East West subscription, there's nothing here that warrants such an extravagent price. Hell I'd splurge on Hanz Zimmer purcussion from Spitfire Audio before I looked at this, which is cheaper and I believe over priced. Then again I'm starting to think I don't value purcussion libraries as much as they want me to... lol. I'd love to see you tackle Tokyo Scoring Strings. Having such a blast with that Library, can't wait to incorporate it into a score for one of our upcoming videos.
Thanks for this demo, and thanks for the free patches/fixes! I happened to watch this video during a recent Cinesamples sale and was able to get it for more than half off, which seemed about the right price. Very comprehensive and mostly great sounding, but the full price definitely had me looking elsewhere for years.
Hi Cory, Thanks for the detailed review, and the tweaked patches for the library. Well done. I love this library. It is my Go-To Perc. library. Sounds Awesome ! Cheers, Muziksculp
thanx for the patch fixes Cory, i bought this one together with the core libraries for about the same price of the cineperc library,there were two deals at native instruments,the first one was all the core libraries and cineperc,and the second one (same price) all the pro and some additional libraries like taylor davies,cinestrings solo,and descant horns,as always,great vid,cheers
Hey Cory, thanks a lot for you in depth review. Is there any library you personally would recommend for Timpani? I already own a fair share of Percussions Libraries (EW Hollywood Percussion Diamond, Audio Olli LA Percussions, Stormdrum 2, True Strike 1). This being said most Timpanies I used so far were rather limited, meaning you either got the softer mallet range, often times too soft for any Action oriented purposes or heavily compressed and drained in wet reverb. Also older Libraries as Truestrike tend to have a restricted amount of velocities. I am looking for a decent close mic timpani (as I prefer to setup reverb, eq on my own). I really like Audio Ollie's LA Modern Percussion, too bad the library is missing a timpani. Any suggestion here is greatly appreciated.
If you're going for dry and accurate I'd probably say try the Vienna Synchron Timpani (expensive but comprehensive) or the Westgate Timpani on Big Fish Audio (affordable but not as fancy).
@@BluemountScore That's what ended up costing me nearly $600 AUD. CineSamples adds the Australian GST at checkout which makes the price higher than just taking $375 and converting it to AUD like almost every other sample company does. That kind of annoyed me.
@@CoryPelizzari That happens in Canada too and it annoys me to no end lmao Bought CSS last month and instead of being ~$520 like it should have been Fastspring tacked on 15% HST because I live in Nova Scotia and ballooned it to $600
I can’t claim I know Cory’s opinion but if you don’t already possess it, don’t get it. I only heard bad things about it in the composer server I’m in, for a similar price (if I recall the price correctly) you should get Cinematic Studio Series instead which is one of the best on the market, I have a friend (Jafet Meza) who used to work with the cine series and ever since he got cinematic studio series he never used anything from the cine series ever again
@@ClicStudio I second this. CinePerc is a high point for CineSamples, whereas CineBrass and CineWinds are a low point, especially compared to what's available now for less money.
@@CoryPelizzari This is literally the first time I come across a negative opinion on CineBrass - are you sure you aren't confusing it with CineStrings? Why don't you like the brass?
Yeah, True Strike 1 is much more affordable and covers the orchestral part of what CinePerc does well (if not even better), and has a much, *much* smaller hard disk size. This thing feels dated in comparison.
Also note I will be adding a handful more scoring multis to the download folder at some point so keep an eye on it if you're interested.
Hey Corey - hope you're good. Did you ever make any extra multis for this? Cheers!
Good choice Cory. This is one of my go to’s, and I typically use it on every piece. Granted I did pick this up at 50% off with an EDU discount, but I think it does very well for what it sets out to do!
Percussions have always been something I had problems with, if I don’t already know the rhythm I want and kind of sound then I’m stuck. I feel like if I had this library I would only use it once I’m done composing for percs and would either replace or layer the drums with this one, but for the price I don’t find it necessary, the sound is however very good and it seems like it’s the most solid library cinesample ever did which might be why the price is so high. Anyways, thank you for this review your videos are always very neat and great to watch but I have to honest here, I haven’t watched it from A to Z I only listened to some parts of it and see what categories the library has plus your little overall opinion on it plus the little demos at the end
I bought this in the NI sale one year. I wouldn't ever buy it full price, but I do admit it's one of the better libraries I've bought. Cinebrass and Cinewinds kinda disappointed me, whereas Cineperc had everything I wanted and more. Haven't looked at percussion since then.
There is also the occasional NI bundle sale. That's probably the only way to get this library without it being somewhat of a waste of money. I hope CinePerc is in the bundle next time.
Ohhhhhhh this is gonna be interesting
Thanks for the review. Your reviews are always the definitive word, in my opinion, so I’m always eager to know your thoughts on a library I’m considering. For percussion though, at least in music I write, the sound is not as important as those instruments that are more up front and exposed, so good enough is usually ok for me with percussion. For that reason, I listen to this, and thinks it’s better than what I’m using for percussion (typically Albion one, BBCSO, Damage 1, and NI Abbey road kits) but not sufficiently better to make a notable difference in a mix.
What controller do you use to record these examples? (pads, e drums, keyboard?). Thanks for the review
Just an old battered 69 key midi keyboard.
Thanks as ever for your generosity with the patches, both creative and problem solving. They should hire you!
Super deals now at Cinesamples ! So cool to have your review and multis. Very best !!
thanks for the review, this gives much more detail on how each individual patch in this library sounds.
It has all the standard orchestral percussion, pluse some more and beyond. All in very high quality. If price is a concern *cough* there are other ways of obtaining it *cough* .
Hi man! Do you know how to control the tail of the timpani ? Like is there a way to shorten the release? Thanks a lot ! :)
Thanks so much Cory, for the review and of course for the fixes. I just picked this up on 50% sale at Native Instruments and was stoked to get it at that price which is available for another week or so as of writing this on 24.09.22 I previously used Spitfire Percussion and was frustrated for many reasons and ended up buying supplementary instruments to augment. Cineperc has pretty much everything and with your fixes, I’m sure I’ll be happy until Alex releases CSP. Let’s hope it doesn’t take as long as you’ve supposed! Thanks again!
This library is a classic
how do i remove the stick hits on high velocity in your and the default taiko presets?
Had to save up like crazy for this one, but having most of my musical background in percussion, I’m always taking a bunch of instruments from this library. Even if I don’t have whatever I’m looking for, this library will. Also fun fact: cineperc used to be sold as separate libraries: orchestral, metals/woods, epic perc and ethnic. It was an odd decision, but eventually they put all the libraries into one product, which explains the insane price tag. If you bought any of the previous packs, you’d get a discount, but that’s the most I’ve seen for it. Even with its flaws, I still have a huge soft spot for this library, and with how much it comes with, I’ll always have a use for it 💚
Thanks for showing the sounds individually! Although it is on sale now (Black Friday) and is overall great and far reaching in its inclusion of mostly great orch samples, I actually like the sound of damage drums better as they seem a little cleaner especially the reverb/room tone. The roto toms in Damage are a great example of this. Love your unbiased assessment of libraries it really helps a ton in making decisions what to throw $ at.
Thank you very much for the fixes!!! Helps a lot!
Did you record the drum kit at 10:00 in one take, or per instrument? The multi looks like it could be a bit of a pain to use.
Did you record the part on a MIDI keyboard or with an electronic kit? I have to commend you for how realistically you programmed it - it sounded like a real drummer would!
MIDI keyboard in one go. The multi's designed to work like a standard drum library where everything's coming through the one MIDI channel. You can set your own channels though if you want.
@@CoryPelizzari You played those fills on a MIDI keyboard?? Like with no editing you're saying? Sheesh you're on point!
I have quite a few cinesample libraries, love their quality and love their ease of use with Native Instruments, but holy hell, they got the price WAY wrong with this one. Between the percussion I have from Impact Soundworks and the diverse collection of percussion from my East West subscription, there's nothing here that warrants such an extravagent price. Hell I'd splurge on Hanz Zimmer purcussion from Spitfire Audio before I looked at this, which is cheaper and I believe over priced. Then again I'm starting to think I don't value purcussion libraries as much as they want me to... lol. I'd love to see you tackle Tokyo Scoring Strings. Having such a blast with that Library, can't wait to incorporate it into a score for one of our upcoming videos.
Thanks for this demo, and thanks for the free patches/fixes! I happened to watch this video during a recent Cinesamples sale and was able to get it for more than half off, which seemed about the right price. Very comprehensive and mostly great sounding, but the full price definitely had me looking elsewhere for years.
Hi Cory,
Thanks for the detailed review, and the tweaked patches for the library.
Well done. I love this library. It is my Go-To Perc. library. Sounds Awesome !
Cheers,
Muziksculp
thanx for the patch fixes Cory, i bought this one together with the core libraries for about the same price of the cineperc library,there were two deals at native instruments,the first one was all the core libraries and cineperc,and the second one (same price) all the pro and some additional libraries like taylor davies,cinestrings solo,and descant horns,as always,great vid,cheers
Hey Cory, thanks a lot for you in depth review. Is there any library you personally would recommend for Timpani?
I already own a fair share of Percussions Libraries (EW Hollywood Percussion Diamond, Audio Olli LA Percussions, Stormdrum 2, True Strike 1).
This being said most Timpanies I used so far were rather limited, meaning you either got the softer mallet range, often times too soft for any Action oriented purposes or heavily compressed and drained in wet reverb. Also older Libraries as Truestrike tend to have a restricted amount of velocities.
I am looking for a decent close mic timpani (as I prefer to setup reverb, eq on my own).
I really like Audio Ollie's LA Modern Percussion, too bad the library is missing a timpani.
Any suggestion here is greatly appreciated.
If you're going for dry and accurate I'd probably say try the Vienna Synchron Timpani (expensive but comprehensive) or the Westgate Timpani on Big Fish Audio (affordable but not as fancy).
great library but out of my price range
Yeah $750 USD is no joke. I think the library should really be $500-$600 USD.
Cinesamples does 50% sales on a very regular basis these days
it's actually on sale for $374.50 right now
@@BluemountScore That's what ended up costing me nearly $600 AUD. CineSamples adds the Australian GST at checkout which makes the price higher than just taking $375 and converting it to AUD like almost every other sample company does. That kind of annoyed me.
@@CoryPelizzari That happens in Canada too and it annoys me to no end lmao
Bought CSS last month and instead of being ~$520 like it should have been Fastspring tacked on 15% HST because I live in Nova Scotia and ballooned it to $600
What do you think of the rest of the CineSeries?
I can’t claim I know Cory’s opinion but if you don’t already possess it, don’t get it. I only heard bad things about it in the composer server I’m in, for a similar price (if I recall the price correctly) you should get Cinematic Studio Series instead which is one of the best on the market, I have a friend (Jafet Meza) who used to work with the cine series and ever since he got cinematic studio series he never used anything from the cine series ever again
@@ClicStudio I second this. CinePerc is a high point for CineSamples, whereas CineBrass and CineWinds are a low point, especially compared to what's available now for less money.
@@CoryPelizzari what brass libraries would you recommend?
@@SamuelJIMarks Cinematic Studio Brass. 8dio century stuff is also cheap and you may like it depending on taste.
@@CoryPelizzari This is literally the first time I come across a negative opinion on CineBrass - are you sure you aren't confusing it with CineStrings? Why don't you like the brass?
Yeah, True Strike 1 is much more affordable and covers the orchestral part of what CinePerc does well (if not even better), and has a much, *much* smaller hard disk size. This thing feels dated in comparison.
It's funny because both CinePerc and True Strike are old libraries. I think True Strike is even older.
@@CoryPelizzari Yup it is! True Strike is from 2004
@@dariusofwest Seriously?! :O
@@aleksamrkela831 Yup, seriously :)