DRIVING the 2021 PORSCHE 718 SPYDER with PDK: The Perfect Sports Car?
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- Could the 2021 Porsche 718 Spyder with PDK be better than a 911 Carrera? I've owned a first generation Boxster and currently own a 991.1 911 Carrera GTS and I'll explore how the 718 Spyder stacks up. In this video you will be immersed in the driving experience of the Spyder's 414 horsepower naturally aspirated 6-cylinder engine whose chassis has been tuned by the motorsport division of Porsche. New this year is Porsche's dual clutch automatic (PDK) and we find out if contributes to the thrill of driving.
Content in this video -------------------------------------------------------------------
0:00 - Intro
1:37 - What is a 718 Spyder
2:15 - The Engine
3:45 - The Spyder and the Cayman GT4
4:23 - Aerodynamics
5:35 - Driving Impressions
11:15 - 718 Spyder vs 911 Carrera GTS
14:07 - Design
16:07 - Usefulness, Interior, Comfort
20:22 - Final Thoughts
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Decided last minute to fly to MN from VA back in May to pick one up….drove it all the 17 hours back and good god…the Spyder is such an amazing machine
Congratulations!!!! Are you still enjoying the car?
Wonderful job Joe. As a car enthusiast, I have seen my fair share and wealth of automobile reviews over the years. You are by far the best - the insane part about it is that you are a grassroots, unfunded, DIY production! Caliber and quality all the way! - Mike
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words. I really appreciate it. I’m still learning and trying to improve. But I enjoy driving great cars and enjoy sharing the experience. And comments like yours are so encouraging!
I have a manual 718 Spyder and actually had a 2015 GTS manual I traded in for it. The GTS was a fantastic car and having a 911 definitely is special. However, this Spyder is just on another level when it comes to performance. I don’t think I’ll sell it for a long time if ever, it is driving bliss!
Very interesting! I must admit, this Spyder made me question my ownership of my GTS. The Spyder is so sharp and fun. As a driver's machine, it is great. I think I will hold on to my GTS though, because I still drive long distances in the Porsche and the GTS covers that ground a little better for me. But the Spyder is such a great weapon.
Love it! Very INTELLIGENT Review! Best 718 Spyder review on UA-cam. Truly love the way you verbalized your description and Review of the 718. Thank You for relating the driving experience so well, I felt like I was in the car with you. Congrats, BTW, live your 911 GTS too. Thanks again, you do extremely well in defining driving experiences.
Thank you so much !!!! I am glad you enjoyed the review.
Fabulously well done video, Joe. I own a 2020 718 Spyder (manual), and watch (and have watched) every UA-cam Spyder review. Although not the first, I think that your’s is the best. Excellent video + pan to still videography, pitch perfect audio (loudness and delivery). And love the spirited driving; PUSH IT! I’m now a subscriber👍🏼💪🏼
Thank you so much for watching and for your comments. The Spyder was really special and made me question my own 911! The Spyder was such a joy to drive so I tried to capture the fun I was having. Thanks for the sub and thanks for watching! Keep enjoying your Spyder as you have something special there.
this video deserves more views. great watch.
Thank you so much for the kind words!
Joe...very nicely done sir! I appreciate your enthusiasm. The 718 Spyder is indeed a BEAUTIFUL car!
Thank you kindly!!!
I did like your dynamic explanation as much as the excitement perceived of the driving experience.
Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! It was truly a pleasure driving that car.
Fantastic review! I appreciate your comparisons with your 911 GTS. I have a 718 Spyder with a manual and it is an incredible drivers car. I will never sell this car.
Your Spyder is a keeper for sure. Especially considering the next generation will be electric, your Spyder is special.
I’ve owned 105 cars in my life and my only Porsche prior to my current 911 was a 2002 Porsche Boxster in Racing Yellow. Viewing your video I need this car to join my Racing Yellow 911. This car seems like a lot of fun. Great review….your excitement also made a difference..love your passionate review 👍👍
Wow! I absolutely enjoyed your review. A thorough analysis! Thank you, Joe!
Excellent review, greets from Hamburg, Germany
Thanks for watching!
Glad to you doing your thing sir. You’re a Porsche expert. Great review! 😎
I appreciate that! More to come! Thanks for watching!
Enjoyed your video and love that 718!!!!
That color combination is fantastic!
I think so too!
Another awesome review. I recently discovered your channel. It's one of the best out there. Hoping for more reviews.
Much appreciated! Thank you for your support!
Great review - have watched it many times as I await the arrival of my new 718 Spyder this weekend. Joe’s enthusiasm and attention to detail has kept the excitement level right up there, and even more so now that the model has been discontinued by Porsche. Thanks Joe.
Congratulations on your 718 Spyder!!! Please tell me your thoughts on the car!!!
nicely chopped up bits of the spyder flying by and that PDK is vicious. Great review.
Thanks so much! Still trying to learn video editing. That car is so special, I tried to do my best to capture the excitement and enjoyment of driving it.
Nice review 😊
Very good video. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Subscribed. Great review pretty much my dream Sunday car
Thank you!
Awesome video Joe!!!
Thanks so much! I really appreciate it!
One of the best review on 718 Spyder!😮 Its good but save money and quite happy with BMW Z4 M40i. Maybe you can review it?
Great video Joe! Just what the doctor ordered to lift my spirits during the tumultuous times we live in. Escapism has its rewards.
Looking forward to your next dose.
Excellent! Thanks so much! Sometimes we need to have a little fun, right?
Love watching your videos. Hopefully you make more as you really have a lot of interesting stuff to say. That said, the SPYDER is my dream car (dare I say, I think it's better than the 911).
Thank you for watching. More videos to come. After experiencing that 718 Spyder, I must admit, I was tempted to make a change. That Spyder is so good!
those wheels are beautiful and car looks so amazing
Joe, epic review for an epic car!!
Thanks so much!
Great review, thank you
Thanks for watching!!!!!
Thanks Joe. I always look forward to your videos. Enjoying with a cup of joe in hand ☕.
I love your videos!!
Thank you so much!
I just got my 22 spyder, originally ordered with PDK but changed my mind and got the Manual and i'm glad i did.
Getting my Spyder in November. Agree. Manual all the way!
Great video
Thanks for watching!
Great video and I appreciate how accurate you are when going through the car. I have a Spyder coming in a few weeks and I can't wait for this car. Manual of course.
Glad it was helpful! And congratulations on your Spyder!! I think you'll enjoy it.
That blue is beautiful
Great vid Joe , I just sold my 16 Spyder and man do I miss it already lol , love that mid engine feel and I miss that Porsche howl !!!!!
Right on! It's so addictive!
@@Joe_Hutchinson btw your GTS has a beautiful induction howl that the newer Spyder and GT4 incorporate with the sound symposer coming from your intake , it does sound incredible. I was watching when you test drove your buddies manual GTS and you could really hear it in the lower gears when you got in it , it had that low growl that built up into that Howl , epic stuff . I wanted to ask you what your plans are for your GTS , are you going to keep it even longer since it’s the only engine that’s naturally aspirated for the 911 is the GT3 going forward .
Love it Joe H. thanks for the review, appreciated. My first choose would be a manual, yes i know, second Miami Blue, 3rd black wheels, 4rd ….. i need to save up because i want one. BTW yr 911 GTS is stunning still i would prefer the Spyder.
I have a boxter s 2012 black edition pdk and a 2016 911 club coupe ( pca model ) manual. I thought of trading the boxster but i find the cars so different i decided i needed both. Thanks for the video.
That is an awesome combination!!!
Very good video. I have a 21 manual and it’s just a fantastic car! It makes you smile every time you drive it. Value and price aside, would you trade it straight up for your 911?
I believe that your 21 manual puts a smile on your face every time you drive it! I really enjoyed my time with the Spyder. What a fun car! Would I trade my 911 GTS in for it? From a pure driving pleasure point of view, carving up back roads, yes! BUT, I also go for long trips in the GTS so the GTS is a better all rounder for me, so I couldn't bring myself to trade it in for that wonderful Spyder. At least not yet.
Hi Joe, Came across your most enjoyable review of the 718. I know your review is of the 2021 model and its now a model that's progressed into the 2022 and soon 2023 models but I found your review really helpful in a first hand driving driver experience of the car.
I'm trying to research a buy in the very near future and am leaning towards Porsche for their drivability.
My test drives have been of a few of the Porsche range but I dearly want an full open top car for the Queensland weather and weekend and daily fun drives, without a the super powerful twitchy engines the massive turbo models. But to hear form someone who's driven the car for more than 20 or 30 minutes like i have is very helpfiul in my choosing a second, enjoyment car.
I was considering a 2018 2019 Ferrari 488 (pre Pista model) but my heart and eyes keep returning to Porsche for their practicality. I'm a tad scared to be honest of the practical using of a Ferrari and parking up when out etc. I am pretty sure the Porsche wont suffer from such immediate scrutiny as Ferrari's while not uncommojn in my region of southern Queensland are still seen as very exotic. Porsche not quite so much.
I love the shape. The balance of the rear and front of the car is so pleasing to the eye and the dual ferrings on the rear boot give the car real zing. The rear end itself is so gorgeous too. Thanks again for the opportunity to share your pleasure of this beautiful car.
Thank you for watching my review and for your kind words. Sorry it took me so long to respond, but I am curious about what you decided to do. Did you end up purchasing a Porsche or Ferrari? I would share your concern about maintenance cost of a Ferrari. Not that Porsches are inexpensive to maintain, but I hear about very large expenses with Ferrari. I would be more comfortable with a Porsche in that regard. At any rate, I hope you are enjoying whichever vehicle you decided to purchase and thanks again for watching!
Good video. But the Syder should always be a manual transmission. It is marketed as a true driving car and not a track focused machine, such as a GT3 and thus it should provide the driver with the complete visceral engagement driving experience. This requires a third pedal and manual gearbox.
Love this car
Great video i might be getting one next week lets see if dealer makes it happen
Did you get the car??? Thanks for watching!
@@Joe_Hutchinson did not the dealer was playing games and car later found to be accident in history so i walked.
Ok. I don’t blame you for waking away.
Your channel, Cars With Luke, Harry's Garage and Buzzy The Blue (I think this is correct) are just the best. You like cars and don't hate on other brands even if you do prefer Porsche. I thought your GT350 review was nice. Cheers to you man!
Thanks so much for your very kind words. I really appreciate that. As I am sure you can tell, I am car enthusiast. The brand doesn't matter to me if the car is special in some way. Take the GT350 you mentioned: that is a fantastic car in its own right and stands up to any brand! And I enjoyed my time with it (and wish I could have kept that one in my garage). When a car is great, you have to give it props.
DuDE I Cant wait for mine to arrive !!!! It arrive in may . My first Baby haha its going to be red with black wheel and all kind of option in the interior ;)
I assume your car arrived! How do you like it?
@@Joe_Hutchinson Its Awesome But i cant go pass 4k rpm for now because *break-in* but after 3000km i will (i have about 2500km right now Its a BLAST :)
@@financewithpom4315 Indeed. Take care during that break in period. So important for the long-term health of the car. Let me know your thoughts once you are able to open it up!!!
great review, which would you pick for a joy ride around the curves this or your GTS?
Oh man, both are great around the curves. You can’t miss with either. But the 718 Spyder is tuned by the GT Motorsport department so it sticks a bit more and being a smaller platform it is sharper in the very twisty stuff. So if it is about pure canyon carving, the choice may be the Spyder. But for all around use, the 911 is still on top.
appreciate the perspective, I am currently in a 2022 Cayman GTS 4.0 and am considering the swtich to a 991.1 GTS Rwd manual coupe. I go back and forth on it. I am drawn to the looks and sound of the 991, but appreciate the smaller size and better manual in the 4.0. I think overall the 991 would be more of an event to drive for me, even if maybe slightly less fun in sheer driving enjoyment. Now the only trick is to find a rwd manual coupe in a color I like!@@Joe_Hutchinson
Awesome review! I would take this over the new Corvette. I think I might like the 4.0 GTS even better because the top is easy to raise and lower.
Soon after driving the Spyder, I drove the new C8 Corvette. A video on the C8 will come soon.
@@Joe_Hutchinson Look forward to it!
Great video!
Would you take this car over a 992 Carrera S?
Full disclosure: I have not driven a 992 Carrera S yet. So I can't say definitively. And, I would ask: how is the car going to be used? If its being used primarily to carve up the backroads, autocross, track then the Spyder fits that brief. Or, its being used to run errands, commute to the office/long distance and occasionally carve up backroads/autocross/track, then the Carrera S may be the way to go as it is more of an allrounder. Still fun but wider use. If the 992 S and 718 Spyder were sitting in front of me today, and I wanted to drive fast on a great curvy backroad and be thrilled: 718 Spyder.
What a beautiful place to drive, can I ask where this is? Looks like Lake George NY.
Several locations. The really twisty road was Harriman State Park.
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Anyone for one? Do you scrape it on speed bumps and getting up Shelly curbs to stores and gas stations?
I think its possible to keep the engine in the high rev power band with the manual as well.
Oh yes, for sure.
Hi Joe, great review of the SPYDER. I have a 2019 991.2 Turbo S Coupe. This is my 17th Porsche. The car prior was a 2016 911 GTS CABRIOLET. I was hit head-on by a Chevy 3500 Silverado Dually pickup and so that awesome car was destroyed as well as myself. Seven surgeries later I encounter daily reminders of that accident. The 3 airbags saved me.
I am on the waiting list for the Corvette ZO6. I am number 400+ after 15 months on the list. I may forego the ZO6 and order the SPYDER. It is a tough decision when I have an awesome Porsche already and a Corvette but the new ZO6 comes with 670 Hpw and redlines at 8600 RPM. However the SPYDER is one of the best looking cars ever!!! Most likely won’t get the Corvette until 24 or 25. So I am wondering if Porsche will make the SPYDER in 2023.
Thanks again for your awesome video!!!
Cheers
Gordy
Oh my goodness! The accident and the aftermath sounds like such a traumatic experience. I am glad you survived that crash and recovered!!
The Z06 Corvette's naturally aspirated, flat-plane crankshaft engine putting out 670 hp (!) will be a very special motor. I experienced a flat-plane crankshaft V8 in the Shelby Mustang GT350 that sounded glorious, revved out to 8500+ rpm and was a spine-tingling thrill! What a visceral experience. The Vette V8, with so much more power than the Shelby, should be even more thrilling.
I drove a C8 Corvette convertible with the Z51 package and it is a great car, so the Z06 has a solid foundation. The magnetic ride is so smooth when you need it to be yet allows the car to handle very well. The Z06 should take this to the next level of performance. I suspect the Z06 will be a pretty rewarding car to drive.
Having said all that, the Spyder is so, so, so much fun to drive and looks amazing. The Spyder is more of a scalpel compared to the C8/Z51 car. If you enjoy carving up a twisty road, that Spyder is really hard to beat and is more thrilling that the C8/Z51. And it is so gorgeous to look at. What an amazing design.
The Z06, at least on paper, promises to be in a whole different league, performance-wise. But the Spyder provides a thrill!
Gordy, thanks for sharing your feedback. Hopefully you are getting better every single day 🙏🏻 Quick Q. After your experience with both GTS and Turbo S * I am still debating between both of them in cabriolet version. Which one in your opinion fells better * safer, as my wife will be driving. I am extremely confused and the on,y thing is missing in 718 Spider are space with rear seats that 911 have, but it’s look fantastic. Extremely hard decision...
@@Dejan_23Unlimited Hey Dejan, if you can get the 911 Turbo or Turbo S. Both the Turbo and GTS are the same in safety. All 911 Porsches are the same in safety. I have to say after my experience the 911 is one of the safest cars made. The Turbo or Turbo S are incredibly fast and definitely faster than the GTS. All three models are excellent daily driver’s cars!!! I recommend the Turbo. Turbo S is $20K more but the same car as the Turbo. Take your wife on a holiday with the savings by getting the Turbo. Definitely one of the best cars on the planet‼️
@@gordydexter2615 That’s a great advice, best I heard in a long time. Truly Thankful 🙏🏻
I’d take the spyder over every Porsche, (except maybe the speedster) Can’t wait to snag one. hope they don’t go up in value too soon! 👌 great review!! 🔥
Looking at the Spyder and Speedster side by side, the Spyder wins. The Speedster looks bulbous by comparison.
The Spyder really had me wondering if I should trade in my 911 GTS for one. I still love my GTS and decided to keep it, but the fact that the Spyder made me question my car is a testament to how good the Spyder is!
I wish there was an option for a power top if you want it
4.0 GTS is the ticket.
Yes, agreed, 4.0 GTS.
Joe what is the road/wind noise like with the top up?
Oh, good question. The thin fabric top may not be as insulated as a normal 718 Boxster top but it does a decent job. Understanding that this is a sports car, not a luxury car, I was fine with the amount of noise coming in to the cabin. My wife and I were able to have pleasant conversations with the car's top up. No need to shout.
@Joe - You good? Haven't seen a video in over a year!
Thank you for checking in on me. I appreciate it. My real job has become all consuming and made it difficult to carve out time to make videos. But I am back at it! I just posted a video this morning about my recent autocross runs in the 911. Please check it out. Let me know what you think!
I have a spyder coming, but I'm starting to get very hesitant about trading my 981 cayman GTS for it....the GTS seems to just sound so much more passionate, emotional etc. Have you had experience with both? What are your thoughts?
I have not driven or experienced the 981 Cayman GTS so I can't speak to a direct comparison with the 718 Spyder. But what I can say is that the 718 Spyder is very engaging. My microphones may not have captured how good the Spyder's engine sounds so I apologize for that. The Spyder's engine note combined with the Spyder's open-top convertible adds to the whole visceral experience. I really enjoyed it.
Owning a 981 Spyder I can confirm that it sounds much better and emotional than its successor. The 718 Spyder sounds very well in these times but if you know the sound of the 981 you might miss something.
is the 2.5 faster
Great car sir. I must need a different set of ear buds, I'm not digging it's sound?
My exterior mic isn’t the best, unfortunately. But when you are in the car or the car is driving by, the engine/exhaust sounds great.
@@Joe_Hutchinson I believe you brother. Cool car. I will own a 911 someday! Good video.
I’ve read where the 718 Spyder weighs nearly 400lbs more than the 981, much of it due to the added emissions systems. Totally defeats the “light and nimble” essence of what the Spyder should be. Brutal.
The car only weighs 3205lbs which is a feather in todays car world. And with 414hp its a rocket.
@@danny200mph5 Thanks for the correction, so it’s about 300lbs more than the 981 Spyder. So both are equal when it comes to lbs/Hp. With an ECU tune, the 981 is about equal to the 718 in HP. The 718 is a great car, just not as engaging for me as the 981 and the 981 engine sound is much better due to the emission controls on the 718. Both are great cars, just “different” great.
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Nicely done, you've never been more excited telling us about a car. Is that a Spyder in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? 🤣You were super enthused on this one! I hear you on the PDK but I wish Porsche did a better job designing that shifter. It just screams old automatic! At least the 992 looks more high tech but you can't please everybody because people say that one looks like an electric shaver. 🤣 Nice car.. someone commented it's not a GT3 but last I checked the Touring doesn't offer a convertible so this is the ONLY convertible developed by the famed Porsche GT team. It's also not the $150K+ a GT3 would cost if you can find a dealership that will sell it MSRP. The reality is a 991 or 993 GT3 in today's market approaches $200K and the ones with a manual transmission are $200K. This is a nice option and something to think about.
Thanks Asten! Yes, I was really pleased with this car. HA! All good points about GT3s and the Touring!
Why aren't you uploading videos anymore?
My real job has been taking up so much time. Plus trying to leave time for family. But I am back at it! I uploaded a video today that I hope you will enjoy. And more to come!
WOW ,,,,, what a car..... but still expensive for a 6 cylinder car.
4:46, WTF muffler already rusty???
I know when I wash my car, the steel rotors for my brakes look rusty after being wet. As soon as I use the brakes, that surface level rust comes right off. I think that may be a similar situation with that muffler.
@@Joe_Hutchinson Stainless Steel would be nice.
too bad its impossible to get any of the special Porsches
Yeah, and nowadays, with the supply shortages, it's so difficult and dealerships are charging extra premiums. It's really crazy now.
As great as it is, it doesn't sound like a GT3... imho...
Fair enough! You are right, the GT3 engine is in yet another league of its own.
Having said that, you were lucky to have fun & some time with the Spyder... Congrats!
You lost me at PDK, ugh
You've obviously never driven one
oh yeah because your manual 2004 honda accord gearbox is better, snob
I’d get the manual. But then the PDK is amazing, and the ratios are better TBH. You’d hear the engine more, but you’d lose the shifting engagement. Weirdly, the former might actually be more important than the latter. I can’t believe I just said that, but it’s probably true.