2023 CORVETTE Z06 vs the PORSCHE 911: Which One Does He Keep?
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- One of these great cars may have to go! Now that my buddy has put 4,000 miles on his 2023 C8 Corvette Z06, will he decide to sell his 2016 Porsche 911 GTS? Or, will he keep his 911 and sell the Z06? Which car provides a better experience or is simply more fun? We explore in this video.
Content in this video -------------------------------------------------------------------
0:00 - Intro
2:38 - Performance for the money: Z06
4:58 - Engine stats: 2023 Z06 vs 2016 911 GTS
5:55 - Engine behavior: Z06 and GTS
8:12 - Joe's driving impressions: Z06
16:23 - Milton describes Z06 performance
19:19 - Milton describes Z06 shortcomings
20:59 - Milton discusses living with the Z06
26:31 - Joe describes Z06 shortcomings
28:54 - Who is the Z06 for?
31:41 - Interior of the Z06 vs 911
33:56 - Ride comfort of Z06
35:14 - Drivers cockpit: Z06 vs 911
36:28 - Is the Z06 a keeper or is the 911?
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Milton is a class act and knows these are special cars in their own right. That 911 is the last naturally aspirated GTS and that Z06 likely marks the end of an era. Great interview.
I agree totally. Milton is a class act and these cars are the last of a kind. Thanks for watching!!!
Thankfully, Porsche is releasing a limited edition 911 S/T that is also naturally aspirated making over 500 HP and only comes in a manual transmission.
Love them old school chairs...
Seeing a well spoken, classy black man stunting with a C8 and a 911 is inspiring af.
That Vette is sick, but that 911 just does it for me without looking gaudy or garish.
If one HAD to go, it better be the cheap thrills side piece (C8) cause the 911 is all class.
Milton is the real article.
Agree 1000%. Watching two men who look like me discussing Porsche and Corvettee is awesome. Super inspiring! They are class acts
Nothing " cheap about Z06s. There
Is 6.8 billion in R&D invested in
The Z06. The 911 GTS is alot more
Basic than the C8 Z06. Factually
cheap thrill lol. a loaded z06 is more costly. owned a few 911, all boring as hell. sounds like a lawn mower. wouldnt buy one again. have had some AMG products that have way more soul than a 911. the z06 is on another level, an engineering masterpiece, honestly.
Milton is the king. Dude is smooth and easy to listen to, I like his style. Wish I had that choice to make. LOL. Great vidd
Great video. Nice to see Milton again. FYI, I am a dedicated Porsche enthusiast. I drive a ‘21 992 (manual). However, the ‘Vette is a very special automobile. The ZO6 package is definitely the way to go. I must admit pound for pound the ‘Vette w/ ZO6 pkg delivers the most performance metrics at a reasonable price point of any sports car on the market. Keep up the good work. Long live the manuals.
Thank you! And yes, not much out there that can beat the Z06 for performance and value. It is a special car! World class!
Exceptional interview. I hope you gain more subscribers. This channel is absolutely worth it!
Joe and Milton, thank you for creating another awesome video. You guys offer great insight into the ownership experience of your vehicles and it is appreciated immensely. Keep the videos rolling Joe!
You guys couldn’t have said it any better than I could have or any other channel could have! Milton’s way of describing his thoughts is really thorough and fair in his opinions. Great dialogue and video!
So thankful I stumbled upon this video. Really great conversation!
It was a pleasure listening to you two gentlemen accurately discuss this Z-06. I have the C8, and recently drove the 911 GT4 while my wife was signing the paperwork on her new Macan.
I loved hearing how perfectly you described the exceptional performance and the few downsides.
Im holding out for the Zora, but I absolutely love my C8.
I agree that GM completely raised the bar with these new mid engine cars. I could not be happier.
Thanks for a solid, informative exchange!
Hey you guys in my opinion have done one of the best reviews of the zo6 I have seen. The reason I say that is because all the reviews I have seen is all about how fast it is and all that bs that normal people don't care about you guys nailed it with the good the bad and the ugly thanks....
Great video, great interview! Listening to the both of you describe the experience, puts me in the car (imaginary) to enjoy it as well. Thank you!
Keep them both! That's absolutely right. They are not only great cars but also great investments!
They both have their niches, but the H shift manual wins it for me. If the C8 came in H shift it would be the other way around! There's a reason all the T.50s will come in three pedal H shift.
Outstanding choices…both! This was a great conversational interview. A lot of great information. Keep them both! They are epic…
I enjoyed this video guys!
I too am in love with my Z06/Z07. I have a 2020 Z51/Stingray next to it. Those cars are very similar yet so different!
I love them both ❤
This was a fantastic interview. Both are amazing cars. Thanks for sharing.
A quarter of a million dollars in 2 cars.
$2 in lawn chairs.
Perfect.
Outstanding review & breakdown, I really enjoyed the entire segment. Just subscribed, the E-Ray is on my radar.
Awesome, thank you!
Absolutely Loved the conversation! Nice guys!
Great interview and very articulate you gentleman did a great job. I own a 2023 C8 and love it!
Great point on the splash guards! I have the same complaint and have been searching for them for my Z06, and found that ACS, EOS, and Paragon all say they are going to be offering them soon! I’m staying tuned, hopefully very soon but none gave an specific month.
The 911….and the Vette! Having the cake and eating it too! Great video, Joe! I think we both know that Milton is always going to be a victim of variety (and rightly so!).
Great man, car's, interview and sir's answer 👍 Smart thinking
Excellent interview and video, it was funny, highly insightful, and very informative.
Glad you enjoyed it! Much appreciated!
Thanks for video… fun to watch
Great video. I like the info on these cars
Nice. But I can’t get over how they have $300k+ cars behind them and they are sitting in those nylon backyard chairs from the 70’s.
Glad to see an update that Milton's keeping the 911 GTS. Both great cars, and like he said. Going to buy a used car of the same car you ordered from the factory would be painful. Bet he knew then, even with a new great car, the older Porsche still brings some unique pleasure in driving....
I had a 996 and a C6 Z51. I now have a ‘21 Roush Mustang Stage 3. It is relaxing to finally hear a car review that I can personally relate to! I wish that I had all three. Thank you and LIGHT IT UP!!!😎
Terrific discussion... The best ZO6 overview I've ever seen by a lot - great job Joe! Milton, thank you. Although the flat plane crank seems to be one of the highlights for you, I'm really curious to hear your take on the E-Ray.
Unless you're buddy has a spiritual experience in the ZO6, I would think the E-Ray would be a better fit for someone like him...
Great video. 👍🏿👍🏿 Keep it coming
Great real world analysis of the car keep up the great content
Great show 👏🏿
Excellent content and two great cars👌🏾
Appreciate it!
Love it guys! I have a 15’ GTS and have been pondering this exact scenario.
Really nice review guys!
Fantastic discussion and great job highlighting the character of the Z06. I continue to wait for my allocation but lucky enough to be enjoying my ‘23 HTC Stingray in the meantime.
Great show!!!
I love the video thanks guys
very helpful thanks
Glad it helped
Say what you will but nothing in the entire car world sounds like the ZO6.
Great show guys I enjoyed this one. The Porsche 911 for years was my favorite car and I still love them, but after getting my c8 Stingray z51. Oh my god I can't imagine any car better than the c8 right now for what you get for the price. If you have the option to keep both, do it. The Z06 is a step above my Stingray, but I'm telling you my Vett is going nowhere right now. Enjoy those cars, if your wife says it's ok 😅 life is too short.
Very interesting perspective from two Porsche guys. Thank you both!
12:29 - I was one of those people who looked down on the Corvette until this past weekend when I got a chance to drive a 911 and a Corvette back-to-back for the first time. And OMG was I pleasantly surprised by how amazing the Corvette was! It completely blew my expectations! Hard to believe but I actually enjoyed the Corvette way more than the Porsche. I wanted to love the Porsche but it just felt stiff and "blah" and too normal/easy to drive... it didn't have that drama/excitement like the Corvette.
You obviously didn't drive a GTS or Turbo S. Nothing blah about it.
Wer fährt schon VW diesen 0911 langweiler!
Thank you, gentlemen, for a great real world review on the ZO6. I have an 80's 911 Carrera Cabriolet and a C7 Stingray. I have been debating selling both of those and getting a C8 Z06. That old Carrera would be hard to let go. It's nowhere near the performance of the newer cars, but there is just something so special about it. It just drives great!!
The Corvette all day… obviously a much better looking car but the performance design styling leaves the Porsche in its tracks!!!!!!
Bro if u showed up to a car meet in a gt3 porsche vs a zo6. The gt3 would have WAY more people around it taking pics. Even the turbo s is better then any corvette
Awesome video, thank you! Any interest in the ZR1 or Zora??
Milton pimping himself out with his side piece is funny as hell. Great vid.
I agree!! Hilarious!
GREAT VIDEO AND I AM GLAD HE IS ENJOYING HIS CARS
Thank you very much for the video! Very good and valuable discussion… I’m waiting on my Z06 HTC and looking forward to comparing it the GT4. The GT4 is amazing and it sounds like the Z06 won’t disappoint!
Thanks, helped make a big decision going forward. New not revamped.
I wouldn't get rid of either.
That 991 is going to be VALUABLE.
BUT,
The Z06 is insane and also will be very valuable.
I used to have a 73 4 speed vette with a built motor.
Now have 2 Porsches.
😊
I really appreciated the sit down talk, the experiences you both have shared and Milton hit on something I experienced as well in my '16 Z06 w/Z07 package and when I first got it in '18, it had 2k miles from a collector and it had the sport cup 2 tires, which I honestly thought are probably great for a track, but for a new corvette owner, getting caught out in the rain, yes, that rear end danced around and made me very nervous and Milton said it well, you have to exercise some thoughtful restraint when driving in the raid so that you don't hydroplane and wrap it around a tree or light pole! I'm going in a different, but similar direction, now I''d like to get an older Porsche 911 either GTS, 4S or S maybe '17 and get to know that car as well! I will not sell my vette, as I enjoy driving it, just have had owning a Porsche on my bucket list as well! Appreciate the video fellas, would like to drive/ride with you if you ever find yourselves in Texas! Thanks, Brian
Trade them both for 911 Turbo S and have it tuned.
Yeah, both of them combined are a little less than the 2022 Turbo S.
Why downgrade to a turbo s?
Totally agree Joe! We had a C8, and I am only 6’1” but long torso, and felt that I could not get low enough in the seat like I can with my 911’s. Totally agree.
I'm 6'2" , long torso.
Can fit w great headroom in my 981.
My 73 Vette was fine too. Haven't sat in a C8
Perhaps it was because I drove both cars back-to-back that I felt I was sitting high in the Z06. In the 911, I feel nice a low and when driving in a spirited, sporty way, I feel more connected to the car being in it that low. The Z06 felt like I was sitting on top of the car (I am exaggerating a just to make the analogy). The Z06 is very comfortable and the bolstering of the seats made me feel locked in, so all that is good, but I just felt a bit high up in the cabin.
Outstanding discussion, Thank you for sharing it with us. The Z06 spec that Milton ordered is beautiful.
Great Video!!!!! The first time I drove a C8 Stingray, I could not get the seat low enough also, I pic my new one up in two weeks!!!
Congratulations on your C8! I am sure you will enjoy it.
Good job Joe! Always good to see you. I’m hoping to get better with my production quality so I can look good like yours!🇩🇪
Thank you so much! Really appreciate that. It was a fun one to make!
Milton sounds just like Densel Washington same demeanor too.
He made a great point about revs and those that like to cruise or do quick bursts at red lights. Stingray or boosted cars are better for that due to low end torque. I had an r8 for a short period and didn’t enjoy it because it didn’t give me that low end torque and its the same for the Z06 you gotta get these cars up in the rpm range to really get them to “boil” as he states. Red light to red light races are tougher too in these high rev cars they are more suited for the track or longer range races for sure.
Thanks very good comparison and review. Yes there is always that guy in the left lane who we all hate. I love my z06
Without even watching ONE SECOND of this video, I can tell you this. Power and performance has nothing to do with public opinion of these cars. I had a Porsche and NO ONE CARED. I now have a C8 Z06 and get looks NON-STOP, constant compliments and lots of questions.
Lmfao. Id bet my life u didnt have a new 992 turbo S or gt3 or gt2. The actual high end porsches that are rare af. Brotha i see 3 corvettes going to the gym. Deadass. Its known as a poor mans sports car for a reason. Ive never seen a 992 turbo s or gt3 out on the road in my life. The zo6 and a regular c8 all look the same for everyday people. If u went to a car meet and i already know this the brand new turbo s or gt3 thats specd out beautifully would get infinitely more looks and pics. If u gave someone both cars for free pick one they would choose a high end porsche everytime. I have neither car. Thats just a fact.
@@G82Watts facts I was thinking the same,a gts yeah I’m picking the z06 but a 992,gt2rs,gt3rs there’s no second guessing
@@africaninvestor7032 I'd take a targa 4 gts porsche over a z06 but a Carrera gts I'd take the z06
Great video Joe! Thanks to Milton for letting us into his thought processes w these cars. 👍🏼 Is Milton a doc? 😊
First of all awesome video as usual, my concern is the monetary value. I have a 2018 991.2 GTS MIAMI BLUE! I bought it two years old, but the price I paid then I can get the same price now with the car being 5yrs old! Great buy for the Vertte for all that you get! I can't compare the two because I have yet to drive a vette!
wonderful interview....finally a sane owner!
I love to see black men enjoying their success #porschelife. I'm ready for the next vid Joe!
Thanks so much!
I have never driven a Porsche, but I respect them. I'm on my third Corvette. I've owned a 1988 Z51, a 1991 ZR-1, and now a 2016 Z06. I've also owned a 2011 CTS-V. Glad to be back in a Corvette. Enjoy that Z06 Milton!. Thanks for the video!
If you had a new 911 Turbo S (992) or a GT3 RS (992) you wouldn't even have to think about it!! 911 Turbo S is also Luxurious!!!
Turbo S isn’t a comp but the 3RS against the Z06 w/Z07 is an interesting comparison if the question is only track. The Z is an experience only really rivaled by the 458. The 3rs in this generation is really not a good road car and is also realistically after ADM 2.5-3x the price of a Z…
Lover your stuff keep it up. I agree with Milton that if you are able keep them both. They different enough that you will have a different experience. He also identify some key point that is happening in the car world that may dictate having them both.
Totally agree!
Very good review Joe.
Thanks so much!!
@18:50 totally agree. Dealerships in the states are losing long-term customers. It’s about relationships folks, not single off “how much profit can we get” transactions. And that infidelity line at the end was gold! 😂
I sold my AMG GTC for ZO6. Awesome machine. Class act by both men.
This was a really good watch
Excellent video and comparison. However, I'll take my 911 turbo S over a vette 7 days a week. I think the vette is a great car, but it's nothing like driving a Porsche. To me, the vette will always be a cheaper substitute.
Thank U, I don't have enough bread for neither but like hearing others thoughts on this.
Milton has a smooth Denzel voice I could listen to for hours ;-)
I have a 2021 992 Turbo S and 2023 06, similar power/performance/price and love them both. My convertible 06 is a little more exciting/sensory but the Turbo is like fine China, appreciate sophistication. Some question price similar, got the S at list and paid over for 06 and got all the options. Within 10% of each other price. The Turbo and 06 pull the same and a different experience than 992 GT3 which I traded for the 06. The back road twisty they are the same. For the street they are two best cars money can buy. Both are livable day to day unlike the other super cars
You are living a dream. The Turbo S can function as track and daily driver. Currently waiting for my ZO6 to arrive. I sold the C8 Stingray too soon. We used it for track and daily driving duties. Our 992 Carrera serves as the long-distance cruiser. The ZO6 is more of a want than need vehicle. It will take the place of the Stingray as a track vehicle and daily cruiser. Looking forward to matching the Carrera vs ZO6 long distance cruising capabilities. The ZO6 will be an addition to our small stable.
Great content. C8 stingray is my first sports car and I have my name on the list for a z06 but was told that the wait can be 2 years so figured drive the stingray till then. 911 is a great car however starting price is way too much and honestly for a few thousand more I could get a z06, which I feel is lot more value as said by a owner who owns both. Porsche you really have to step up to the gts to get NA which is 2.5 times the price. Stingray does not rev to 8600 6500 instead but it is still plenty fast for most city driving I feel. Will wait for the Z until then enjoy the Stingray
Cool Video , as someone who owns the c8 z and wants to a
add a 911 to my garage , I enjoyed it .
Fantastic video! 2 cars any car aficionado would appreciate and love having!!!
We agree!
I have owned several super nice European sport cars, including Porsche 911 turbo and 911 GTS, while Porsche is amazing car and it definitely has no alternatives, my brand new 2024 Z06 is real good, actually they both don’t belong to supercar class (mostly because of price point) if I can say one is super car class I believe Z06 falls more into supercar class.
I love the square steering wheel which makes it much easier to get a 9 o clock 3 o'clock hold, I love it
OUTSTANDING guy’s what a BLESSING too own rides like that.
I completely agree!
Really great vlog. Continue the conversation in a few months.
'Vette is fast and flashy, 911 is fast and classy. That simple.
I have also had 2 Porsches in the past two years. A 21’ 718 Spyder (manual) and a 18’ 991.2 C4S. I’m looking at trying a Z06 as well. Great review.
Which Porsche brings you more enjoyment? I have the 21 spyder
@@danmack613 21 Spyder hands down. 911 was a great daily driver. Spyder was not. But I miss that car daily. Sold the 911. Looking for the next adventure!
Thanks for the reply. Good to know. I guess I’ll keep mine and not chase the next itch.
Brakes are configurable, you can get the Track mode braking in all modes, which is allot sharper.
Never drive a covette so i can't talk it down but i don't like the looks/ shapes that much. Own a 2018 cayman gts, have a 17 blk 911 c2s pdk convertable and a 718 spyder manual, chalk, that drives like race car and after a soul exhaust sounds lile one too.
Good video guys, enjoyed it.
Keep them both you only live once … picking up my Z06 tomorrow 🎉
This is an excellent review, and sit down with the Corrvette Z06 owner.
Excellent conversation with Milton. I love the new C8, but I'm not a Z06 type of guy personally. However, I can definitely see myself owning a Stingray Z51 with magnetic ride at some point. For around $90k well equipped, that car is the bargain of the century.
Fair enough! And I tested the C8 with the Z51 package and it is pretty great.
Agree! Bang for buck
Exactly! Stingray is an insane value, most non-car people can’t even tell the difference between the Stingray and the Z06. Z06 also looks bit strange from the front. Most Importantly, V8 Rumble Sound>Flat Plane
@@LIG242 I think both engines sound amazing, but the 6.2 is tried and true. I'm not sold on the reliability of the new 5.5
That regular 911 GTS would be gone so quick.
I have both. 2022 911 GTS Cab and 2022 Corvette Stingray 2LT HTC. They are both different animals. Sometimes you feel like you are driving a lambo or a Ferrari in the stingray but it still a Corvette. You get lots of looks and the car is fun to drive. The 911 is a 911, it does everything well, puts you a different class, its the better all around car. Both cars do their jobs really well.
For me personally id take a 911 all day long most reliable supercars on the planet and they are gorgeous 🤩 to choose one 🕜 ver a Z06 itd have to be a turbo or GT3 though
Great video. Avid fan of both of those cars. I just got a 2023 Audi S5 that I'm going to mod to get it like an RS5. I could see keeping that as a 4 door sports car and getting a Z06 at some point or some variant of the 911 (GTS or better).
It sounds like you can’t afford the rs5 let alone a z06 or 911
@@G0ddEityawesome it sounds like you are an idiot that has absolutely no idea what I can or can’t afford or what I want to do with my money. Maybe I can easily afford any of these but prefer to keep the large majority of my money invested and not in cars.
GM has been killing it with their recent hirings (past couple decades). Cadillac once they dropped the Catera and introduced the CTS (which became the indication of the brand's styling to come. Buick actually looks poised to crash back onto the scene. And then of course, the 'vette team has hit it out of the park... stadium... Earth's gravitational pull... The E-Ray is incredible too and I cant wait for the ZR1 and Zora models to really start swinging on the Hypercar heavyweights...
I drove a 98' corvette and was in shock at the suspension back then. I couldn't imagine what the magnetic ride is like. It seems like you're on a cloud in tight turns.
Milton you're crazy as hell. Just reached the end of the video and loved how you compared driving and owning the Corvette to cheating on your wife. 😂 I can almost guarantee, as long as you own a 911 turbo or GTS vehicle, the Corvette will always be your mistress. 🤨
LMAO.. Milton
I've been a Chevy man since the 1970s but I've always loved the 911. I think anyone buying one of these will enjoy the crap out of it and either one would put miles of smiles on their face.
Vette - best bang for the buck. But I've always been a 911 guy and own a 992 GTS, love the timeless lines.