'Fate: The Winx Saga' Season 2 Review
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- Ooof. I'm so late...
Hello everyone! If you can read me, it means that I’ve finally managed to get this video out… a whole month after the show came out. But to be fair, my first Fate video came out more than a year after season 1, so I think we’re just going to have to accept that as my modus operandi at this point… I just wanted to pop in and express my gratitude for all the attention my channel has gotten recently. I know it’s small in the context of UA-cam, but for me it’s so so big. Thank you for the shoutouts, for people who posted my videos on twitter or the reddit forums (which I’ve just discovered… and you call yourself a Winx fan), and to everyone who has been watching my videos and leaving comments. Your support means so much to me, and I hope I can live up to it! I’m a little ashamed that this is my first video following on from that, I would have wanted to do better by you. I had to cut a lot out - so to me it feels very incomplete, but so does this show so… let’s just get into it.
silly intro: 00:00
real intro: 00:39
Rosalind: 02:55
tone & colour: 07:23
Flora: 11:52
Beatrix: 16:39
Sebastian: 22:14
Conclusions: 28:07
Outro: 32:02
#winxclub #winx #fatethewinxsaga #fate #flora #season2 #fatewinxsaga #fatewinx #beatrix #stella #bloom #valtor #aisha #musa #tecna #terra #icy #darcy #stormy #trix #netflix
EDIT 01/11: RIP Fate the Winx Saga, I guess... I'm not even sure how to feel about it. I know that some people will be really disappointed though, and I sympathise with that. I'm kind of sad too, because (not to be melodramatic) Winx's future feels uncertain again: For better or worse, it felt like Fate had revived Winx.
But more to the point, I don't know if people would still be interested in a rewrite? It feels almost disrespectful (not to the show, but to the fans I guess) - like let the dead sleep kind of thing...???
One of the reasons this video took so long was that, honestly, I was paralysed with anxiety, because I think most people ended up liking season 2 much better, and well...
I know that the some of the criticisms I make in this video won't be popular, but I hope that you can see that it's not just about hating on the show no matter what: It's about having respect for the original, and this new premise, and the effort behind both.
Anxiety? Can you please be a bit more confident
I think you have you legitimate criticisms you should feel free to share them! A lot of the critiques you made were ones many professional critics have also lamented on, ones that I personally had as well!
I would be interested in a rewrite😃✋ I really like your ideas for the fate adaptation. it would be cool to see you expand on it more😸
I wanted long-haired Valtor. Literally my favorite villain in the show I loved the idea of him being Bloom's opposite, the darker side of the Dragon Flame. sigh
Calling Winx Saga an adaptation of Winx Club is like calling cactus a tooth brush.
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I really disliked season 2, but I knew they literally couldn't do anything actually good without giving us whiplash from season 1, so this season was doomed in my eyes anyway. When watching it I didn't even realize Sebastian was Valtor because that's how invested I was (zero, nothing, nada) and only noticed when someone else told me about it. I got so furious because they massacred our favorite villain to a shadow of himself and the worst part is how I was talking to my partner about how Valtor as a Blood Witch could had worked if done right before knowing Sebastian was actually Valtor.
Valtor was charismatic, he loved to make himself known and stand out in the crowd, he had, as you said, these highly sexually charged interactions with everyone just to manipulate them and that was his biggest thing. This Valtor felt nothing like him, he was more of mixing in the crowd and had the opposite to a threatening aura and even less of a sexually appealing one. OG Valtor was so memorable specially from a design perspective and this one is just the most boring and plain looking dude.
Anyway, I also didn't like Flora, she was p pointless but just like half of the characters this season and Bloom had the biggest Mary-sue savior complex I've ever seen.
You know you are writing your main character awfully when you get people to actually feel joy when the character is presumed dead.
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24:50 UGH YESSSS BRING IN THE BLACK CIRCLE LMFAO. I remember watching that season and actually being like genuinely scared of them as villains. Then again, I was young then so idk how I feel about them now. But like damn, I even said while watching "Are we getting The BLACK Circle?"
I think for Beatrix situation, in the original winx club, fairies and witches have the chance to choose to become either one where fairies can be witches and witches can be fairies !
Like for Mirta she was a witch but she became a fairy and Head mistress griffin was a fairy but she became the headmistress for the witch School??
Beatrix could definetly be in that type of situation, a theory of mine is that Beatrix is actually a Changeling… Think abt it along with the whole Ancestral witches thing, she coudlve been born in a fairy being but she was destined to be a witch along with her sisters mentioned Isobel and D’arcy
An interesting theory, my only issue with it is no-one(Bloom) clicking and asking: "Wait, how did a fairy get born in a town of blood witches?..."...
Wow you literally summarized what I couldn't put int words since I finished season 2.
So many interesting subplots are dropped by killing the characters who bring the mystery.
So many new mysteries introduced that don't have enough time to be explored and build up.
yes, it's underwhelming😔 on the one hand, we're supposed to treat it like it's its own thing, on the other hand, it won't commit to the alternative elements it introduces...
@@talkytilki my guess is that its because the creators are lazy. Winx is easy money for them. This is why they aren't putting any effort into creating something on their own or into making a good adaptation.
I really hate that they're bringing in Darcy and Icy I know that she has electrical powers but she was supposed to be all three of them. Yes she has stormy's power but she has Icys conniving leadership and most importantly Darcy's storyline (where she dates riven) the only way they can bring in a different Darcy is if she's not the same person and that scares me because I've seen what this show did to the other characters.
Ngl I actually completely missed the fact that Sebastian was Valtor the first time I watched the show, it wasn't until I watched a review of the show where a commenter said that he's the son of the original Valtor? Or something like that
Yea while watching the show the idea he was valtor never crossed my mind
Another thing is that I do not like How the Dragon Flame is portrayed To be this Dangerous Magical power or something like In the OG the dragon flame was pretty much creation in fate it was made for destruction?
By improvement we mean it finally has a plot, and that in my opinion took too long.
*Spoilers*
I hated the last episode where Fara was gonna tell them the secret about transformation magic and they just skip that whole part and suddenly they know how to do it
Didn't she tell them to make peace with their emotions? That's how you transform.
@@emilypaul3432 true, but how was THAT the "secret" that had been lost for generations?... Also, Bloom didn't do that really, she just channeled a shitton of magic.... so.... (I like elipses, sue me)
Bloom just comes off as Stubborn with her decision making and kinda dumb She stopped being a brat which is good but at times when the last episode when everyone is getting ready to fight bloom flexed her dragon flame to the girls saying "I need to do this" implying to me at least I have the power im the chosen one its like "OG bloom would never act like this"
Yes. So cringy "i have he dragon flame so you just shut up".
She literally goes from sucking at magic and whining about how bad she is to being like "but mah dragon flame!?!?".
This character is truly insufferable but that's only one of the minor clues that Brian doesn't care about the original story nor his own story... Just wants to capitalize on nostalgia
@Will N i didn't realize :) but it looks like another piece of evidence that he is following an archetype to get quick cash without too much effort...
@Will N Idk Bloom Felt Like a Slight Improvement But Still Insufferable
Musa actress Elisha apple baum is actually a person of color, she is majority middle eastern and is mixed white and 1/4 singaporean… She is brown skinned as said in her resume and she is an Israeli Jewish who can speak an West Asian langauge Hebrew fluently.
You can also confirm that in her Instagram because she wored traditional ethnic clothings that seem to be from middle eastern culture. She is actually West Asian with a singaporean descent but is seen to be white passing at the same time. Though lets not be ignorant and acknowledge the fact that she is still part a person of color !
Im totally fine with Elisha Applebaum playing Musa in this version, but you cant claimed someone is a person of color when the person herself never confirmed it.. None of your evidence was confirmed to be true.. besides, asian or not, Musa is heavily inspired by EAST ASIAN and most likely chinese.. she often wear chinese traditional clothes.. her planet has traditional chinese palace/building design. and she was inspired by Lucy Liu, Asian-American actress .. but Lucy Liu is fully chinese.
Even IF she is somewhat middle Eastern, you don’t have any proof to back this up and just being 1/4 Singaporean isn’t gonna cut it. And middle eastern and East Asian are two different things. Also she has very small amounts of middle eastern and Asian and isn’t even Jewish SOOOOO. Also I’m pretty sure she doesn’t speak any other language and the outfit she wore was solely for an interview on press day
@@getstompedon2200 The outfit on her interview was not a middle eastern clothing, as a half west asian myself I can tell she wasnt white in the first place because she looks brown and noticeable Shes mixed, I agree that she isnt east asian and that she shouldve been chinese…
Elisha apple baum is a Christian woman so obviously she wouldnt be Jewish relligious wise but ethnicity wise shes not ashkenazi Shes the israeli one whos native to asia, Shes still a poc, I just dont like how people see middle eastern as white…
I have lots of evidence according to my Research that this person is middle eastern, Go check her twitter she mentioned abt being a brown woman, and again her Instagram and as well her Record background (I believe if you search it up the first two) and there are many articles saying Shes a mixed woman !
Personally She dont look white to me and we should acknowledge and not be ignorant that she is still a person of color even tho we dont get actual full representation and proper ethnic diversity like the og musa / winx club, Elisha applebaum was the closest they got sadly
@@zahiedzamri3141 I agree and I know that Shes chinese and will always be, I am upset we wont be able to have that as Elisha applebaum was apparently the “closest” they casted, the actress did claim she was a person of color… she was mixed race and in her twitter and Instagram she mentioned abt being a brown woman, and she even uses this skin tone emoji 👩🏽 to indicate that Shes brown skinned as said in her resume-
Im half west asian (arab) and half south east asian (Filipino) so I understand whats its like to not see proper diverse representation…
@@fatedwinx6329 SHE IS NOT FULLY OF COLOR. she is just mixed Race and is VERY whit passing. She’s not even actsully Jewish that’s just part of her ethnicity and I’ve even seen a chart where it shows she’s not fully of color. Argue all you want, this woman is white.
In the show, there is one reference to a movie when Bloom and Sky are writing the horse Vapor got kiko
I've not watched the show past the first episode of the first season, so I have no informed opinion about the second season. But this was an excellent breakdown even for a non-viewer and I'm looking forward to your rewrite!
oh 👀 thank you very much. I'm really glad you enjoyed it 🥰 and I hope you didn't mind the spoilers...
@@talkytilki you're welcome! I was never going to watch it so the spoilers are fine.
I’m honestly writing my version because the show could have been better but it was so bad, like the creators didn’t even care about the winx club and what made it amazing.
I look forward to it!!! Don't forget to link us!
Worse they hated source material with strong passion. Hardly ever Netflix adaptations aren't travesty. Butchering Witcher and introducing toxic messages hurt me deeply. They have lots of scandals on their account. Like Cuties or 13 Reasons Why (series led to increased number of suicides). Most recent is making documentary series about black Cleopatra. Egypt sued them for 2bln dollars. I don't know how come such thing as Netflix can exist in USA. Netflix has become a national shame for USA
I absolutely love your content
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I honestly believe that Sebastian was Valtros son, he kept mentioning him and said he's from ancient war, plus if Valtor is his last name then his father was also Valtor. If thats the case then we could get the true Valtor as the big bad of season 3
Maybe its adapting Magic Bloom, not Winx Club xD
Lol
I feel Saban would have done a better job at adapting Winx as a live action show like Winx has the potential to be like the power rangers.
Hmm
That could work!
YESSSSSS!
i swear they said something in s1 ab blood witches' magic coming from sacrifice??? then it never became an actual thing
Yeah, this was exactly the kind of thing that bothered me about this show. So, okay, you've changed everything about Winx... but you apparently didn't even have a vision and a reason why, because you won't even commit to your own ideas... What then was the reason???🙈🙈🙈
this being the only review of ss2 saying something
13:39 - 13:48 This was funn to me
I'm glad you're enjoying... 💖💖💖
0:33 Winx fans everyday
If they don't bring Beatrix back, I may just stop watching it all together.
Well they cancled it so....
I don't like Roslyn as a character I thought She was supposed to be misgriffin for Zelda Zelda is miss baragonda assistant
Oh
Jesus Christ, I only now realized that Fara is played by Eve Best o.o What a waste of the woman who plays Rhaenys Velaryon
Btw why is Riven should a weird name. I don't get it.
right? he came for it both times??? 😵💫
@@talkytilki and still named a character Terra, made sure she acknowledged the weirdness of all other names including Flora's.
He is literally making sure that we know what he thinks about the original show but he is trying to make it sound funny.
You actually made me realize how obvious it is that he wants easy money and success without putting in the work.
"He is literally making sure that we know what he thinks about the original show." Yes.
I really came to dislike him after reading his interview for The Guardian (have you seen it?). His whole dismissal and superiority over a show that HE has chosen to adapt really rubs me the wrong way...
@@talkytilki i haven't seen the interview actually, but I'm not sure I want to actually :(.
I do have some hopes that the show gets better
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Hi
I would consider this show the worst live action remake ever made...for TV at least. Mulan is still worse.
Welp they canceled this show