As a professional camera operator since 1994,I have to say, that the really big shoulder-mount ENG cameras. ( 20.000 dollars + ) are made to last, they are real workhorses. With very good viewfinders, Timecode generators (IN, OUT) , SDI1,SDI2 out, HDMI out, 4 audio channel input, built in multiple ND-s, built in audio limiters that can be adjusted or turned off, no overheating... many things why I still prefer them as my main camera. For a small camera I use the Sony FX3. But I agree, for UA-cam is overkill to use such big cameras.
For me, the real question is how to get broadcast quality video at a reasonable price. I own a Sony CX900 (the HD prosumer version of the Z90) and am impressed how gorgeous my HD 60p Blu-rays look. The camera is far from perfect in design and feature set, but the images have made me a happy prosumer.
Yes, for a TV studio or ENG where you have a whole team for news, yes. But the cinematic world is different. Audio can be separatedly recorded (and much better quality), NDs can be attached (IF needed> control over lights!), SDIs are not relevant unless its hollywood and 2 teams, and so on... For the average artist, even cheap cameras like the FX30 are absolutely overkill. LF in Venice LOG? Holy crap 😀Who cares, if the story is not good.
I love shooting with my DSR500 even if it's just standard def. You can't hardly tell the difference after youtube's compression has done its worst anyway. If I'm just shooting for fun, I'll often just take that massive old monster out.
@@ScorpionRanchTX They make most sense for newsgathering and run & gun where you basically have no time for setup (menu diving). Break out the camera, plug in the mike (good old "stone age" XLR is so reassuring on the road) and get running in under a minute.
You're such a big kid but your enthusiasm is infectious. It's also lovely that youre so down to earth and unpretentious. Yet you've all these years of experience that you share with the world. Thanks for the tips!
The one big problem of the smaller camcorders is that the're usually limited to 30fps at 4K. If you film sporting events or anything else that has a lot of movement then 60FPS looks so much better. If you're shooting 30FPS on a bright day without the right ND filter you end up with a staccato mess due to the ultra-high shutter speeds that usually result with small camcorders in those lighting conditions. I would have loved to buy the Sony AX53 as a 4K upgrade to my 1080p Sony BOSS camcorder but only does 30FPS at 4K. Ended up going with the Panasonic HX-1500 because it does offer a full 60FPS at 4K. The stabilization isn't as good on the Panasonic and it is bigger but it's still super-light, has built-in ND filters, will record for 4 hours on a single battery, doesn't overheat and has a great EVF (something that's also missing on cheaper camcorders) for working in bright sunlight.
The reason for XLR is beyond just connecting shotgun microphones if you are in a news gathering scenario you need to be able to connect to a patch bay to get an audio feed of a press conference or connect to handheld microphone. Camera's like the larger ones in the video give you everything you need in one package and have features you need in broadcast like SDI. The smaller sensor in these also gives you greater focal length allowing for greater reach.
"XLR is part of the stone age..." I can add this sound device thingy for another $1K that is much better.... What I liked about the video is it backed up my decision to go with a Canon XA70 as opposed to a Canon XF605. The XA is half the size of the XF and has sound capability that allows for a nice semi-pro $300 shotgun mic. The bigger model is so nice... but twice the price. The cheapo 1080P consumer model camcorders aren't doing it for me for athletic events.
The problem is that he has never worked in a live broadcast situation. Mickey Mouse adapters and 3.5mm jack adaptors work well for mirrorless cams, but come to a situation where you need to feed to an OB van they will never cut it
Actually I worked in Hollywood for 20 years. Even made my own 2.5 million dollar movie that was in theaters all over the world. We did not use 3.5mm jacks. Pay attention. I said Lemo 3 and TAF4 . Maybe you don't know what that is.
To claim that XLR is part of the stone age is a bit ridiculous to me. There's no need to abandon XLR. How many shotgun microphones, multi or single input field recorders use a Lemo 3, or TA4F connector for input are there not any that I know of? TA3F or Mini XLR probably but aren't common. How many Lav mics use a sure TA4F or mini XLR connector plenty. How many boom poles use anything but an XLR connector. in those scenarios what is the benefit of a smaller connector? @@MarkusPix
I would agree. I hate/resent being placed in the situation of so much gear having 3.5mm because the majority of it does not use a threaded lock down hardware to keep them in place. It's just a matter of when it will loosen up, get "scratchy" and drop signal, not if. They've never had enough spring tension possible to 100% snap a plug in tight compared to the old 1/4" size of the same format. It's also harder to find good shielded 2 conductor cables off the shelf in 3.5mm suitable jacket diameters. Since 2020 I have the Sony AX-700, little brother to that Z90. No regrets. I already had invested in portable multi channel recorders for live music so I wanted to put them to use in video; thus my choice not to pay that $800 Cdn more for the XLR handle. I do much prefer the camcorder physical orientation and controls, always have. I confess I take out my A7III for video too but it's not as enjoyable, easy to steady by hand only, or reassuring to operate and monitor. @@MarkusPix
Markus, I was using the CX405 for a while, but needed a better sensor for night shooting. I switched over to the Sony a6300, but it overheated when shooting during the day. Your videos convinced me to temper my ego and go back to a camcorder. Picked up the Sony AX700, and it is so good. People always comment how good the video looks. Thanks for all you do in educating and entertaining us!
I also have the AX700, it's great. It's so easy to use even in manual mode. The only thing that's bad is if you're walking around you need a stabilization unit and it can get a bit heavy.
If you are a camera operator, the big cameras feel like an extension to your body. The Sony FS7 is still a work horse. Big camera body with a Super 35 sensor, built in NDs, 4K and also Raw output. It was a costly camera and still is as a used one. Works right out of box without any extensions and is built like a tank.
I work as a professional cameraman here in Germany. I must say, there are different cameras for different purposes. The cameras you showed are all small compared to what you need for professional use in sports, for example. We are currently working with the Sony PXW-Z750, where one lens alone is as expensive as all the cameras in your video combined. There are good reasons for this: the usability and the speed. No DSLR or mini camcorder can keep up. For portraits or film-like documentaries we also use the Sony Alpha 7S III and mainly the FX9. There are appropriate cameras for all purposes.
I've been using my 405 for years just love it, I started out with Panasonic 3tube and Sony 3/4inch tape, over 45lbs walking around plus battery belts, uggg, now my Sony 405 is my choice for video, thanks Markus, glad you still have your 405
I fell in love with camcorders with the first Sony Video 8. It had a flying erase head for clean edits (no VHS glitches) and it just seemed to get the shot every time. Camcorders are so well balanced and incredibly underrated these days. Great video Markus. BTW. Who doesnt love a good zoom rocker?
Totally agree. Been shooting TV programs and professionally for 40 years. These days I put a GH5 in a cage to make it look professional and everyone's impressed. About 25 years ago I was chatting to a friend about the weight and hassle with Betacam cameras and wished we had something smaller and lighter. Now they're here but you can't pitch up to a pro shoot with something that looks the same as what your client bought for his wife for her birthday (like the GH5). So you have to be creative. I always lean toward ENG shooting and a light cage generally works for me. The GH 5 in a cage is still too heavy and clumsy for me, you battle to get focus. So I'll take the big, impressive looking camera around on the shoot, but most of the time I shoot 95% on my Mavic mini drone, often just held in my hand. I can fly it too and the picture is phenomenal. Thanks for your channel, it's by far the best for professional advice. 😊🌈
Hey Markus, I bought the Sony RX VII a year ago based on YOUR recommendation. You were so right. It was nice to see it mentioned again here. The camera helped me launch my own UA-cam channel. It's perfect. You're an amazing resource and inspiration. Carry on....
Unless you’re in a pro broadcast studio, or taping church services or corporate seminars, xlr and big bulky cams are overkill. I miss my Sony HDW-F900R but I will never miss lugging that beast around!
That was the best 12 minutes explaining what I’ve tried to tell my daughter that is a remarkable artist/photographer & videographer regarding these video/photography cameras with more bling and cost than necessary. I retired from film around the same time digital started. I can’t understand the new technology but I can tell stories and that’s what’s kept her tech business afloat. I’m talking into getting rid of ask her wasted equipment that collects dust and to just trust me that she can have a digital studio in one small domke camera bag. Your video helped tremendously in helping her see the light. Thank you. I threatened to also let her create a story without my help at all. She knows her tech skills will get her nowhere. I want her to exercise her creativity and not be trapped by marketing garbage.
I would say camcorders are more about ergonomics and how you hold the camera then anything else. Also cameras have a good general lens. Its why TV stations use them. I heard about some TV show wanting to switch to the Canon C300 back in the day and Philip Bloom again that's going to be a headache switching lens I believe it was a surfing showing in Australia. And who wants to change lens all the time on the beach with all that sand and salt in the air.
Thank you for talking about the fun element. I like shooting on small camcorders, but they aren't used a lot in the UA-cam sphere so they don't get much attention. Still, I like them and have been having fun with UA-cam and family videos.
Thank you again for another very objective video. There are only two types of photographers/videographers, those who make money (for living) from the hardware and those who do this for hobby/interest/social work. I fall into second category. Given this, I do not have financial resources to even think about buying anything that is more than few hundred dollars. When the video production is for pure joy / enjoyment it does not matter if things are HD, 720P or 4K. Many people are driven by equipment. They think that newer the equipment, better results. To that end, as someone else has also mentioned, only drawback of consumer level equipment is that repeated use of it will eventually cause it to deteriorate. I shot an event where I ended up in renting a video camera (no money/funding for production !!). During that event I did a secondary shoot (B Roll) with a small Sony handycam I had for more than 8 years now. I can guarantee you that my footage from vintage sony handycam can compete with the footage I got from rental video. As a matter of fact as Markus said, rental camera was no fun to use. For pure artistic purpose any equipment will work well. Again, personally I like lower end equipment because there are less things to mess with and less things can go wrong. Thanks again for putting objectivity and creativity ahead of equipment.
I use a camcorder with a 1inch sensor and 24-490 equivalent zoom. Thinking about getting the Osmo Pocket 3 for when I need something wider, 20mm equivalent lens, optional optical reducer takes it to 15mm.
I agree that the shape of a camcorder is way more fun to use than an SLR or one of those gigantic pro cameras. I have an old JVC GZ-EX210BUS that only does 1080p but I love using it for recording bands when I go out to see them play live. The sound quality of the built-in mic is actually pretty good!
I used a JVC camcoder, had to stop around 2012, because it started to show hot pixels. Swapped it for Canon 650D back then. They both collect dust on a shelf now, but sometimes I think about taking JVC for a grainy session.
I think of the large ones as being good "event cameras", for something in an auditorium or large performance space, that can be set up with minimal hassle. The XLR is handy for taking an audio feed from a sound board. I use a couple of these for work and they do the job. I have smaller camcorders that I personally bought for similar tasks. Once again, they do the job. We are lucky to be living in a time when choices have never been wider, even if prices seem to be creeping up. And up...
Y'know Markus thres so many scammers and bad people on the internet you my friend are such a breath of fresh air with your really cool, fun attitude towards creativity and life. i struggle with depression and you always make me feel really good and postive thank you.
Awesome video! I don't know why people have such a hate for camcorders, I own several and it is funny how some people react to them. Anywho... fun to see Camera Conspiracies in the end! Really enjoyed the colab you did with Kasey!
I have been working as an ENG cameraman for television for over 31 years and currently use a Sony PXW-Z-750, Sony Z-90, Sony FX-9, Sony FX-6 and Sony a7sIII. Each of these cameras has its advantages and disadvantages. The shooting situation you encounter is crucial when choosing a camera
Your point was excellent that normally we record 5 or 10 minutes of video at a time. And this limitation made me change my workflow and today i prepare my videos a lot more carefully and i spend way lot less time on editing and cutting out waste footage. great videos you have.
How do you think the Sony RX100vii would do for close up on small items? I film a lot of videos showing details of small coins. Right now I use my Sony Xperia 5 IV cell phone. :-) I love equipment and playing with cool stuff though. (Also been loving that you and Kasey have been collaborating! So much fun!!)
Mr. Markus, you make some sound arguments in regards to the smaller camcorder's. And I'll admit that I was one of those folks that liked using the larger camera's for ENG work (electronic news gathering). But boy was my body tired after several hours of usage. I'll also agree that nowadays the smaller camcorders can do what we use to pay 1ooo,s of dollars on for those extra pro features which many prosumer and smaller camcorders now incorporate. So in summary... I find it difficult to dispute or find anything wrong with your claims in favor of the smaller camcorders.
Nice video Markus I think it really depends on what you’re using the camera for I personally own 9 x Panasonic HCX1 cameras which I do for live concert and live sport. In fact there is currently a program on the BBC iPlayer which features all of my cameras, this particular model if it shot in 24p cinema 4K, offers a stunning picture they are super reliable run all day on batteries and yes as you say they do have excellent superb audio quality They’re also great run and gun documentary or news cameras. they are very very versatile indeed have shot music videos and interviews. I cannot recommend them highly enough
After watching your video on the CX 405 I bought 2 used ones for less than $250 total. I'm still working out the subject matter for a puppet music video I created. Talk about lots of steps. Camera angles, lighting, staging costumes and the most time consuming the dreaded 'EDITING" A lot of work for just one guy but at 69 I have a lot of time on my hands and since I am the boss I do it at my own pace.😃. Thanks for suggesting the CX405 video camera. They work great. Oh and a big Hello to Cara.😃
I really enjoy my Panasonic VX 981 and still discovering how to use it. I still have my betacams and VHS camcorders, just hard to get rid of my old cameras. Thanks for the recommendation on the Panasonic.
I LOVE my Sony CX-405 even more than you I have2 and will soon buy my 3rd Markus. What I like best about it is I can edit 10+ hours of recording all of the bird, and squirrel action in the day and at night possum, racoon and skunk action down to 10 minutes or less and put it in my PC. I record everything at HD 1080p. I know nothing about XAVC-S. Thank you very much for this great review of my favorite HANDYCAM. Have a Happy Halloween weekend Markus.
Hi Markus I was wondering if you could make a film with all of your cheep gear and a few actors just like your last big film that you did in the 1990's I would love to see how it's done on a budget with cheap gear basically a basic camera basic tripod basic lights a short script with a few actors and some foam core and minimal decorations I only say this because I am trying to get into short film making with all of my cheep budget gear lights cameras mics and and a few actors I have gathered like noore than 5 actors and would love to learn from you how to make it all work into a short film
I started out with camcorders back in the day and wasted years trying to do video with a Nikon, manual lens setup because I already had the lens. So many wasted shoots because of struggling to be in focus. Had to use an external monitor. Cards filled up fast. Got the cheapest camera here Markus suggested and my biggest headache is getting the sd card recognized. Otherwise love it always in focus. Love the flip monitor so I can see myself. Very happy and it was affordable. Thank you Markus!
I love the Sony RX S100. It does amazing things; I agree! The only thing it doesn't do is stay on for more than 5 minutes or so. It makes it hell to film a long take or to film oneself while performing a 45 minute set. So it looks like the only other option is the Z90V. Thank you for all the great info and tips. P.S. Really enjoying your videos - keep 'em coming!
This is the best and most sincere camera review on UA-cam I've ever seen. You've done so well to highlight the differences in the cameras, it's left for the viewer to choose, but yh I agree with you, smaller cameras are so liberating 😅. The Sony ax43 and ax53 are also powerful beasts in a small body but I'm glad you mentioned that the panosinic is much cheaper. Sony is so powerful but their prices are a bit over. Thanks for the enlightenment once again.
The advantage of shoulder cams in the analog days is that they balanced well sitting on your shoulder and held against your ear. You heard the microphone from the built-in speaker. With your left hand you manipulate the audio, the lens and the buttons. In this way you got steady shots and good sound. Then digital happens and everything changes.
I love my Sony CX405 . I take it with me everywhere! Just like you said... it's fun! it hase great zoom also! I don't have to change lenses, and it's so portable! I jsut put it in my pocket and I'm ready to go. I use it to film my everyday specially my daughters adventures. Thank you for sharing this video!
Markus, I just want to thank you for all your time and effort you put into making these videos. I am a lifelong Godox owner and fan because of your videos demonstrating their products. Many I didn't even know they existed. You have saved me soooo much time and money, and now I have a very versatile kit to photograph under any situation. Many thanks!! Thomas
I have just used one of theses large camcorders today, and I'm going to be using one over the next month, for a Uni project. In defence to these cameras, I think you have got the wrong idea about who is using them. Now I do believe that there is a market for event videographers who like to use these, for events like weddings, but another use case for these and the actual market case they are intended for, is journalists. Journalists use these large camcorders when they are a one person crew, this is why they are an all in one solution. To make it easier for someone who might not be a camera operator or audio engineer first. Another benefit to some of theses large camcorders are the ports, not only do they have XLR, but they also have SDI out which is used in broadcasting, and full size HDMI out, which are two ports not always found on normal camcorders and mirrorless cameras.
I have tha pamasonic hdc tm700. I like it and i feel nostalgic and ashame using now that cam against new gadgets.. love your vids, greetings from Peru🇵🇪
5:06 music to my ears! Love that $225 chime because I know I'm going to enjoy watching later what everybody else missed shooting because they were digging through their camera bags to find the right lens.
I love using camcorders too. All mine are really old and not great quality but it's all I can afford for now. I stream shows using 3 panasonics This weekends stream I did use my canon c100 MK1 though. So much more fun than using my DSLR. Great video as always Markus. A pleasure to watch 😊
I love when you do Camcorders, I love them too. Currently using a Sony AX-33, the only thing I don't like about it is the Zoom is weak, and viewfinder wimpy. I shoot Surfing videos and like the small size.
Love that Sony RX 100Vii. I think it's a must have. I went to Italy and Cuba with a Panasonic 40x optical zoom tiny camera ZS60 and loved the pics and video. I can imagine the Sony is better. Talk about fun. Thanks Markus
I lol'd at your 'weak moment' at buying the big cameras, I have done so, too. I love camcorders, particularly the built-in ND filters, the really well-placed and thought out buttons/placement. As a long-time viewer I want to share one thing I have invested in last year that is next level, it's a Skarhoj Color Fly V3, which is a camera shader so I can control my muilticams with a single interface. It's not user friendly to setup, but once it's going it is amazing...
I saw the RX100VII coming a mile away, Markus (because I saw your video comparing it with the XF605). I have a RX100V and I take it everywhere. Thanks!
I love the AX53. I use it for top-down shots mainly now. I do love the Z90V and may end up still investing in one. Camcorders offer great functionality to gain greater focal length. I would love to see you do a similar video on ENG style cameras to add in the Z280, or the Z150. Great video! Thanks Markus!
Couldn't agree with you more! I've been using a Canon Vixia HF R600 for a few years and couldn't be happier with the quality. I even use one for streaming my UA-cam show every week - 1080/30 and it gives top quality every time. Bought two of them on eBay and paid all of $250 total.
Excellent Video! The Panasonic and others have many adjustable, fun features, extreme zoom, options and abilities too. The Shoulder Cam's are delicate. Drop them/Knock them once and they are unusable - their beautiful lens's are glued or thin plastic sealed to the body unit. Put them on a very strong tripod, and rope them off, or never let them leave your shoulder or padded carry bag. The hand held cam's will work until their internal parts wear out, as long as the damage isn't intentional or extreme. The valuable parts are protected by a solid unit of hard plastic with no vulnerable or delicate areas. The equipment "value" lines are being blurred from cell phones to hand held, to shoulder mounts, due to digital and microchip advancements. A talented post production/effects person can see all 4k/high-def the same,, no matter what it was captured on, and then process and render out, into their own vision of quality.
HC-X1 is from 2016, discontinued and replaced by the HC-X20. MSRP for the X20 is $2600, everything has been improved. My kitchen is airconditioned, but I shoot motorsports in the hot sun, 90-100 degree heat, dust, and smoke.
Sounds like my expected use. I currently video on my phone, but heavily eyeballing the X20 for drag racing. That Sony Z90V was looking very tempting with up to 960fps, but it costs more, the X20 has more physical controls (great for making changes on the fly without having to interrupt recording to navigate menus), and that 960fps is only good for a few seconds of real time recording. 120fps is plenty fine for me, and can work Topaz magic on it to slow it down even more if needed.
After watching one of your videos (and a few others), bought a JVC GYLS300 and a bunch of MFT len's instead of a giant Panasonic. Great size, weight, image quality, flexibility, battery life and it runs all day without smoke coming out of it.. Use this in conjunction with some MFT cameras as all can share the same len's. Have shot hundreds of hours of broadcast TV in the UK on this. Quite old but very useable. Also had a tiny Panasonic SD900 consumer camera back in 2011 (still have it, still works).. This blew most of the pro 1080p cameras at the time out of the water.
One thing I’m not a huge fan of with smaller camcorders is that they shake easier, and with action zoom shots that’s an issue. I’ve found that servo zoom smoothness usually compromised in smaller but that not definite. Low light capabilities are always something to consider as well.
Great video Markus. I use a GH6 as my main camera. Sometimes mirrorless cameras can get so rigged out that a camcorder might be beneficial. More of a run and gun for professionals. The one inch sensor is not good for events though. Indoor event lighting can be all over the place and a larger sensor can make a huge difference.
It's the ergonomics, the style, the state-of-mind you get when you hold an actual camcorder in your hands. - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
Ive been wanting to get back into camcorders, how I started, now using DJI action cams I really miss the hands on, Something like the prosumer sony with the lens hood is what I need / want :P
I use many types depending on my job. The Sony Z280 can't be beat for professional dance, lectures and theater. My Small Sony FX3 (equivalent your Sony A7 line) is amazing for B roll and interviews.
I have a Sony CX240 sat right here (and a Canon 70D, which also shoots amazing 1080p footage). I love this vid for the side-by-side actual comparison of the quality. Also, as I've said for years "all the gear" doesn't make someone creative. Some of the most iconic movies of all time were shot on gear far inferior to even the budget stuff we have access to these days. Thanks Markus!
"under the right conditions" is why I moved from a phone (S21) to a legit camcorder and spent more than a $200 entry-level model. I think just under $1000 is the sweet spot for something that will tick all the boxes for anyone wanting good footage with options. The only thing that's impressive about the Sony is the price which allows one to forgive it for it's quirkiness, but there are no excuses with the Panasonic (I have a VX1...same family as that 981). The Sony will work most of the time for the average family, but you can do wonderful things with that Panasonic. I got a shot of the moon that seemed like I had a high powered telephoto lens on it. With phones that perform better than $2000 cameras just 10 years ago, we're living in a good time. The Panasonic VX1 is like a DSLR with auto-everything. It focuses, it zooms in & out quietly, it's practically it's own gimbal, the color is almost as nice as Canon's, batteries last forever, doesn't overheat, can be rigged with all sorts of accessories, etc... and in the right hands, it can shoot some beautiful footage. I'm done with using camera bodies for shooting video when a camcorder is like having 3 lenses in one compact lightweight better performing, more convenient device. Yes, it's better than a phone even if it's bigger. And you can accessorize it (mic, lights, monitors, etc...). I never knew how miserable I was with a DSLR or frustrated I was with using the limited phone camera until I began using a camcorder.
Big cameras are necessary for long hours live production. SDI, big batteries, power zoom, full of manual controllers. I use the big cameras for live multi camera events and love the smaller ones for personal fun or low budget one man shows. I love the Sony Z90V and the prosumer AX33 for multi camera productions .. 3 of those cameras fits in a small pelican case. Use the fx3 for manual lenses and pretend I’m a film maker. The Sony A5100 or Sony ZV E10 are amazing for web content.
The Z90V HAS SDI output and you can get optional huge battries for it, and it has a power zoom and manual controllers like you said. Lots of people are using smaller cameras like that for pro multi-cam live stream shoots.
Having the XLR inputs is more about ubiquity and properly adjustable preamps than the semantics of words like "professional". Different things for different use cases. I like small camcorders, but I like the big ones more, partly because I actually find them more fun to use, and more practical because they have all the controls I need while shooting at my fingertips. Separate control rings for focus, zoom, and iris, the jog wheel can further select to adjust shutter speed and gain, ND filters can be swapped out at the flick of a switch, all without having to stop shooting. Plus audio gain adjustment if not using AGC. The law of diminishing returns is in effect, undeniably, but it's the tool I like. It just weighs 13 pounds...
Couldn't agree more. While, my main UA-cam camera is a Canon 90D, I shoot more than one angle. My other cameras are the Panasonic VX981 4k camcorder, my Sony CX440, and my Canon M50. I use the Panasonic most of the time and is the camera I grab first, on the go.
Shooting for youtube is easier because you have the time to prepare. But if you have to shoot a 3 hour video in unknown conditions it is a whole other story. No constant lens swapping, excellent built in mic, ergonomics, light, easy on tripod, excellent low light performance, easy media handling, excellent monitoring, no hunting, crisp detail, easy battery system are important then. What a lot of us are looking for is a pro shoulder cam in a smaller form factor. Panasonic should have developed its hvx200 because it had most of that. All bigger camcorder offerings are indeed underwhelming in specs.
Physical buttons are good though. How I'd love to be able to turn off zebras, focus peaking and whatnot via a dedicated button! When you're shooting interviews run and gun style, you simply don't have time dive into the menu for anything. You need to keep your eye on what's happening in front of the camera. Besides, the menu structure in my SONY CVX900 (which does shoot good pictures otherwise) is a pain in the arse. Too bad those big boys aren't any better (and maybe a little smaller). The medium SONY ones (like the Z90V) are a nice size. Besides, the power zoom is a big PRO for camcorders. Not happening with any photo camera. Sure, you don't need it for talking head content. But out in the field, it's great.
I don't regret getting a Canon G50 several years ago. It's amazing for less than 1K. And will record 4k for hours of an event with its dual cards plugging the power adaptors. Its other party trick is its smart shoe's audio mike. Amazing environmental sound.
Agree with you about camcorders. I've got the Sony AX53 and am very happy with the video quality. It also lacks the green tint often found in Sony colour science that people complain about. However, as you say, if you turned up for a job with one, rather than one of the bigger camcorders, people wouldn't take you seriously, but imo it actually outperforms them. The Sony Z90V's footage looked awesome, but is rather expensive!
My church has 3 981's and we love them for live-streaming. solid little units that's for sure!
I already love your church 😊
As a professional camera operator since 1994,I have to say, that the really big shoulder-mount ENG cameras. ( 20.000 dollars + ) are made to last, they are real workhorses. With very good viewfinders, Timecode generators (IN, OUT) , SDI1,SDI2 out, HDMI out, 4 audio channel input, built in multiple ND-s, built in audio limiters that can be adjusted or turned off, no overheating... many things why I still prefer them as my main camera. For a small camera I use the Sony FX3. But I agree, for UA-cam is overkill to use such big cameras.
The Z90V in this video also has all that- SDI, HDMI, timecode, built in ND filters, 4 channel audio etc. I just never use that stuff
For me, the real question is how to get broadcast quality video at a reasonable price. I own a Sony CX900 (the HD prosumer version of the Z90) and am impressed how gorgeous my HD 60p Blu-rays look. The camera is far from perfect in design and feature set, but the images have made me a happy prosumer.
Sometimes i own Panasonic dvx100 & dvx200.
Where is Panasonic px800, px5000 & cx4000 ??
Yes, for a TV studio or ENG where you have a whole team for news, yes. But the cinematic world is different. Audio can be separatedly recorded (and much better quality), NDs can be attached (IF needed> control over lights!), SDIs are not relevant unless its hollywood and 2 teams, and so on... For the average artist, even cheap cameras like the FX30 are absolutely overkill. LF in Venice LOG? Holy crap 😀Who cares, if the story is not good.
I love shooting with my DSR500 even if it's just standard def. You can't hardly tell the difference after youtube's compression has done its worst anyway. If I'm just shooting for fun, I'll often just take that massive old monster out.
Unexpected cameo haha :) I hope the camcorder industry makes a comeback!
My two favorite Ontario photography dudes are collaborating!
Don't camcorders really make the most sense for vlogging? They do need to make a comeback.
Sup Casey?!
@@ScorpionRanchTX They make most sense for newsgathering and run & gun where you basically have no time for setup (menu diving). Break out the camera, plug in the mike (good old "stone age" XLR is so reassuring on the road) and get running in under a minute.
You're such a big kid but your enthusiasm is infectious. It's also lovely that youre so down to earth and unpretentious. Yet you've all these years of experience that you share with the world. Thanks for the tips!
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The one big problem of the smaller camcorders is that the're usually limited to 30fps at 4K. If you film sporting events or anything else that has a lot of movement then 60FPS looks so much better. If you're shooting 30FPS on a bright day without the right ND filter you end up with a staccato mess due to the ultra-high shutter speeds that usually result with small camcorders in those lighting conditions.
I would have loved to buy the Sony AX53 as a 4K upgrade to my 1080p Sony BOSS camcorder but only does 30FPS at 4K. Ended up going with the Panasonic HX-1500 because it does offer a full 60FPS at 4K. The stabilization isn't as good on the Panasonic and it is bigger but it's still super-light, has built-in ND filters, will record for 4 hours on a single battery, doesn't overheat and has a great EVF (something that's also missing on cheaper camcorders) for working in bright sunlight.
Completely agree with the staccato mess statement. Use ND filters with 180° shutter, or 60 FPS.
The reason for XLR is beyond just connecting shotgun microphones if you are in a news gathering scenario you need to be able to connect to a patch bay to get an audio feed of a press conference or connect to handheld microphone. Camera's like the larger ones in the video give you everything you need in one package and have features you need in broadcast like SDI. The smaller sensor in these also gives you greater focal length allowing for greater reach.
"XLR is part of the stone age..." I can add this sound device thingy for another $1K that is much better....
What I liked about the video is it backed up my decision to go with a Canon XA70 as opposed to a Canon XF605. The XA is half the size of the XF and has sound capability that allows for a nice semi-pro $300 shotgun mic. The bigger model is so nice... but twice the price. The cheapo 1080P consumer model camcorders aren't doing it for me for athletic events.
The problem is that he has never worked in a live broadcast situation. Mickey Mouse adapters and 3.5mm jack adaptors work well for mirrorless cams, but come to a situation where you need to feed to an OB van they will never cut it
Actually I worked in Hollywood for 20 years. Even made my own 2.5 million dollar movie that was in theaters all over the world. We did not use 3.5mm jacks. Pay attention. I said Lemo 3 and TAF4 . Maybe you don't know what that is.
To claim that XLR is part of the stone age is a bit ridiculous to me. There's no need to abandon XLR. How many shotgun microphones, multi or single input field recorders use a Lemo 3, or TA4F connector for input are there not any that I know of? TA3F or Mini XLR probably but aren't common. How many Lav mics use a sure TA4F or mini XLR connector plenty.
How many boom poles use anything but an XLR connector. in those scenarios what is the benefit of a smaller connector?
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I would agree. I hate/resent being placed in the situation of so much gear having 3.5mm because the majority of it does not use a threaded lock down hardware to keep them in place. It's just a matter of when it will loosen up, get "scratchy" and drop signal, not if. They've never had enough spring tension possible to 100% snap a plug in tight compared to the old 1/4" size of the same format.
It's also harder to find good shielded 2 conductor cables off the shelf in 3.5mm suitable jacket diameters.
Since 2020 I have the Sony AX-700, little brother to that Z90. No regrets. I already had invested in portable multi channel recorders for live music so I wanted to put them to use in video; thus my choice not to pay that $800 Cdn more for the XLR handle. I do much prefer the camcorder physical orientation and controls, always have. I confess I take out my A7III for video too but it's not as enjoyable, easy to steady by hand only, or reassuring to operate and monitor. @@MarkusPix
Markus, I was using the CX405 for a while, but needed a better sensor for night shooting. I switched over to the Sony a6300, but it overheated when shooting during the day. Your videos convinced me to temper my ego and go back to a camcorder. Picked up the Sony AX700, and it is so good. People always comment how good the video looks. Thanks for all you do in educating and entertaining us!
I also have the AX700, it's great. It's so easy to use even in manual mode. The only thing that's bad is if you're walking around you need a stabilization unit and it can get a bit heavy.
Excellent video as always. And a surprise cameo from Camera Conspiracies! Was not expecting that!
If you are a camera operator, the big cameras feel like an extension to your body. The Sony FS7 is still a work horse. Big camera body with a Super 35 sensor, built in NDs, 4K and also Raw output. It was a costly camera and still is as a used one. Works right out of box without any extensions and is built like a tank.
You are the reason I bought a CX405. Glad to see you are still making videos about it.
Me too man. I'm obsessed with camcorders.
I work as a professional cameraman here in Germany. I must say, there are different cameras for different purposes. The cameras you showed are all small compared to what you need for professional use in sports, for example. We are currently working with the Sony PXW-Z750, where one lens alone is as expensive as all the cameras in your video combined. There are good reasons for this: the usability and the speed. No DSLR or mini camcorder can keep up. For portraits or film-like documentaries we also use the Sony Alpha 7S III and mainly the FX9. There are appropriate cameras for all purposes.
I've been using my 405 for years just love it, I started out with Panasonic 3tube and Sony 3/4inch tape, over 45lbs walking around plus battery belts, uggg, now my Sony 405 is my choice for video, thanks Markus, glad you still have your 405
Loved the cameo from Camera Conspiracies. The most fun camera I have is the GX850- uncomplicated, take it out, shoot from the hip. Super fun.
I LOVE the GX850 !!!
@@MarkusPix I tried to like the G100. On paper, it's better, but the EVF isn't great and the flip-out screen isn't as fun as the flip -up screen IMO.
@@MarkusPixare there any low light camcorders that can film the night sky, not just the moon but stars? Appreciate your help and advice thank you!
I fell in love with camcorders with the first Sony Video 8. It had a flying erase head for clean edits (no VHS glitches) and it just seemed to get the shot every time. Camcorders are so well balanced and incredibly underrated these days. Great video Markus. BTW. Who doesnt love a good zoom rocker?
*I just got word from a Sony employee that the HDR-CX405 is now discontinued so you guys better get one before the prices go nuts.*
Totally agree. Been shooting TV programs and professionally for 40 years. These days I put a GH5 in a cage to make it look professional and everyone's impressed.
About 25 years ago I was chatting to a friend about the weight and hassle with Betacam cameras and wished we had something smaller and lighter. Now they're here but you can't pitch up to a pro shoot with something that looks the same as what your client bought for his wife for her birthday (like the GH5). So you have to be creative. I always lean toward ENG shooting and a light cage generally works for me. The GH 5 in a cage is still too heavy and clumsy for me, you battle to get focus. So I'll take the big, impressive looking camera around on the shoot, but most of the time I shoot 95% on my Mavic mini drone, often just held in my hand. I can fly it too and the picture is phenomenal.
Thanks for your channel, it's by far the best for professional advice. 😊🌈
Hey Markus, I bought the Sony RX VII a year ago based on YOUR recommendation. You were so right. It was nice to see it mentioned again here. The camera helped me launch my own UA-cam channel. It's perfect. You're an amazing resource and inspiration. Carry on....
My god!! So much logic and I love it! Feels like it makes sense and not pushing you the latest “greatest” thing!!!
Unless you’re in a pro broadcast studio, or taping church services or corporate seminars, xlr and big bulky cams are overkill. I miss my Sony HDW-F900R but I will never miss lugging that beast around!
Amen.
That was the best 12 minutes explaining what I’ve tried to tell my daughter that is a remarkable artist/photographer & videographer regarding these video/photography cameras with more bling and cost than necessary. I retired from film around the same time digital started.
I can’t understand the new technology but I can tell stories and that’s what’s kept her tech business afloat. I’m talking into getting rid of ask her wasted equipment that collects dust and to just trust me that she can have a digital studio in one small domke camera bag. Your video helped tremendously in helping her see the light. Thank you.
I threatened to also let her create a story without my help at all. She knows her tech skills will get her nowhere. I want her to exercise her creativity and not be trapped by marketing garbage.
I would say camcorders are more about ergonomics and how you hold the camera then anything else. Also cameras have a good general lens. Its why TV stations use them. I heard about some TV show wanting to switch to the Canon C300 back in the day and Philip Bloom again that's going to be a headache switching lens I believe it was a surfing showing in Australia. And who wants to change lens all the time on the beach with all that sand and salt in the air.
Agreed.
Thank you for talking about the fun element. I like shooting on small camcorders, but they aren't used a lot in the UA-cam sphere so they don't get much attention. Still, I like them and have been having fun with UA-cam and family videos.
Thank you again for another very objective video. There are only two types of photographers/videographers, those who make money (for living) from the hardware and those who do this for hobby/interest/social work. I fall into second category. Given this, I do not have financial resources to even think about buying anything that is more than few hundred dollars. When the video production is for pure joy / enjoyment it does not matter if things are HD, 720P or 4K. Many people are driven by equipment. They think that newer the equipment, better results. To that end, as someone else has also mentioned, only drawback of consumer level equipment is that repeated use of it will eventually cause it to deteriorate. I shot an event where I ended up in renting a video camera (no money/funding for production !!). During that event I did a secondary shoot (B Roll) with a small Sony handycam I had for more than 8 years now. I can guarantee you that my footage from vintage sony handycam can compete with the footage I got from rental video. As a matter of fact as Markus said, rental camera was no fun to use. For pure artistic purpose any equipment will work well. Again, personally I like lower end equipment because there are less things to mess with and less things can go wrong. Thanks again for putting objectivity and creativity ahead of equipment.
The new dji pocket cam with 1in sensor is, supposedly, pretty good.
@@TobiasRieperGoodit has a 4x digital zoom, but still not as good as camcorders, mirrorless or some phones
I can buy x3 cx405's, and a couple tripods and mics for the cost of one of those with the creator pack!
I use a camcorder with a 1inch sensor and 24-490 equivalent zoom. Thinking about getting the Osmo Pocket 3 for when I need something wider, 20mm equivalent lens, optional optical reducer takes it to 15mm.
Marcus has that one too. From the comments he’s made just doesn’t fit him as well a camcorder.
Camera Conspiracies at the end?! My two favorite camera people!
I agree that the shape of a camcorder is way more fun to use than an SLR or one of those gigantic pro cameras. I have an old JVC GZ-EX210BUS that only does 1080p but I love using it for recording bands when I go out to see them play live. The sound quality of the built-in mic is actually pretty good!
You are exactly right but the big ones make one look "professional". Client likes cinema size equipment at thier venue, you are right though.
I used a JVC camcoder, had to stop around 2012, because it started to show hot pixels. Swapped it for Canon 650D back then. They both collect dust on a shelf now, but sometimes I think about taking JVC for a grainy session.
I think of the large ones as being good "event cameras", for something in an auditorium or large performance space, that can be set up with minimal hassle. The XLR is handy for taking an audio feed from a sound board. I use a couple of these for work and they do the job. I have smaller camcorders that I personally bought for similar tasks. Once again, they do the job. We are lucky to be living in a time when choices have never been wider, even if prices seem to be creeping up. And up...
I was after a video camera for recording alongside my wildlife photography, and Markus has just shown me the light, big thank you !
All I want is the perfect camera, love colabs Marcus 😊
Y'know Markus thres so many scammers and bad people on the internet you my friend are such a breath of fresh air with your really cool, fun attitude towards creativity and life. i struggle with depression and you always make me feel really good and postive thank you.
I really like the Sony Z90V. Great size, and I prefer camcorders for videos. Thanks for the comparisons!
Awesome video! I don't know why people have such a hate for camcorders, I own several and it is funny how some people react to them. Anywho... fun to see Camera Conspiracies in the end! Really enjoyed the colab you did with Kasey!
I have been working as an ENG cameraman for television for over 31 years and currently use a Sony PXW-Z-750, Sony Z-90, Sony FX-9, Sony FX-6 and Sony a7sIII. Each of these cameras has its advantages and disadvantages. The shooting situation you encounter is crucial when choosing a camera
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Your point was excellent that normally we record 5 or 10 minutes of video at a time. And this limitation made me change my workflow and today i prepare my videos a lot more carefully and i spend way lot less time on editing and cutting out waste footage. great videos you have.
How do you think the Sony RX100vii would do for close up on small items? I film a lot of videos showing details of small coins. Right now I use my Sony Xperia 5 IV cell phone. :-)
I love equipment and playing with cool stuff though. (Also been loving that you and Kasey have been collaborating! So much fun!!)
Mr. Markus, you make some sound arguments in regards to the smaller camcorder's. And I'll admit that I was one of those folks that liked using the larger camera's for ENG work (electronic news gathering). But boy was my body tired after several hours of usage. I'll also agree that nowadays the smaller camcorders can do what we use to pay 1ooo,s of dollars on for those extra pro features which many prosumer and smaller camcorders now incorporate. So in summary... I find it difficult to dispute or find anything wrong with your claims in favor of the smaller camcorders.
Nice video Markus I think it really depends on what you’re using the camera for I personally own 9 x Panasonic HCX1 cameras which I do for live concert and live sport. In fact there is currently a program on the BBC iPlayer which features all of my cameras, this particular model if it shot in 24p cinema 4K, offers a stunning picture they are super reliable run all day on batteries and yes as you say they do have excellent superb audio quality They’re also great run and gun documentary or news cameras. they are very very versatile indeed have shot music videos and interviews. I cannot recommend them highly enough
After watching your video on the CX 405 I bought 2 used ones for less than $250 total. I'm still working out the subject matter for a puppet music video I created. Talk about lots of steps. Camera angles, lighting, staging costumes and the most time consuming the dreaded 'EDITING" A lot of work for just one guy but at 69 I have a lot of time on my hands and since I am the boss I do it at my own pace.😃. Thanks for suggesting the CX405 video camera. They work great. Oh and a big Hello to Cara.😃
I really enjoy my Panasonic VX 981 and still discovering how to use it. I still have my betacams and VHS camcorders, just hard to get rid of my old cameras. Thanks for the recommendation on the Panasonic.
I LOVE my Sony CX-405 even more than you I have2 and will soon buy my 3rd Markus. What I like best about it is I can edit 10+ hours of recording all of the bird, and squirrel action in the day and at night possum, racoon and skunk action down to 10 minutes or less and put it in my PC. I record everything at HD 1080p. I know nothing about XAVC-S. Thank you very much for this great review of my favorite HANDYCAM. Have a Happy Halloween weekend Markus.
Hi Markus I was wondering if you could make a film with all of your cheep gear and a few actors just like your last big film that you did in the 1990's I would love to see how it's done on a budget with cheap gear basically a basic camera basic tripod basic lights a short script with a few actors and some foam core and minimal decorations I only say this because I am trying to get into short film making with all of my cheep budget gear lights cameras mics and and a few actors I have gathered like noore than 5 actors and would love to learn from you how to make it all work into a short film
I started out with camcorders back in the day and wasted years trying to do video with a Nikon, manual lens setup because I already had the lens. So many wasted shoots because of struggling to be in focus. Had to use an external monitor. Cards filled up fast. Got the cheapest camera here Markus suggested and my biggest headache is getting the sd card recognized. Otherwise love it always in focus. Love the flip monitor so I can see myself. Very happy and it was affordable. Thank you Markus!
I love the Sony RX S100. It does amazing things; I agree! The only thing it doesn't do is stay on for more than 5 minutes or so. It makes it hell to film a long take or to film oneself while performing a 45 minute set. So it looks like the only other option is the Z90V. Thank you for all the great info and tips. P.S. Really enjoying your videos - keep 'em coming!
I love my mini but mighty cx405! Thanks for making this videos Markus, it’s entertaining and informative.
Peace.
This is the best and most sincere camera review on UA-cam I've ever seen. You've done so well to highlight the differences in the cameras, it's left for the viewer to choose, but yh I agree with you, smaller cameras are so liberating 😅. The Sony ax43 and ax53 are also powerful beasts in a small body but I'm glad you mentioned that the panosinic is much cheaper. Sony is so powerful but their prices are a bit over. Thanks for the enlightenment once again.
Thanks for watching!
I just loveit when UA-camrs meet in person and appear on one of the others videos.
The advantage of shoulder cams in the analog days is that they balanced well sitting on your shoulder and held against your ear. You heard the microphone from the built-in speaker. With your left hand you manipulate the audio, the lens and the buttons. In this way you got steady shots and good sound. Then digital happens and everything changes.
Did you hear about those guys all getting brain cancer?
brain cancer? Reallyy? Nope. I didn't get brain cancer myself. Arthritis, but not brain cancer. @@MarkusPix
I love my Sony CX405 . I take it with me everywhere! Just like you said... it's fun! it hase great zoom also! I don't have to change lenses, and it's so portable! I jsut put it in my pocket and I'm ready to go. I use it to film my everyday specially my daughters adventures. Thank you for sharing this video!
Markus, I just want to thank you for all your time and effort you put into making these videos. I am a lifelong Godox owner and fan because of your videos demonstrating their products. Many I didn't even know they existed. You have saved me soooo much time and money, and now I have a very versatile kit to photograph under any situation. Many thanks!! Thomas
With kasey camera conspiracy!! Same wild spirit.👍🏼
I have just used one of theses large camcorders today, and I'm going to be using one over the next month, for a Uni project. In defence to these cameras, I think you have got the wrong idea about who is using them. Now I do believe that there is a market for event videographers who like to use these, for events like weddings, but another use case for these and the actual market case they are intended for, is journalists. Journalists use these large camcorders when they are a one person crew, this is why they are an all in one solution. To make it easier for someone who might not be a camera operator or audio engineer first. Another benefit to some of theses large camcorders are the ports, not only do they have XLR, but they also have SDI out which is used in broadcasting, and full size HDMI out, which are two ports not always found on normal camcorders and mirrorless cameras.
I have tha pamasonic hdc tm700. I like it and i feel nostalgic and ashame using now that cam against new gadgets.. love your vids, greetings from Peru🇵🇪
If it makes you feel good, use it!
Preach brother! Love my Sony CX700!
i was just looking for used camcorders on ebay yesterday... this video will help me allot, thanks
You gotta love this guy, content is always somewhat special.
5:06 music to my ears! Love that $225 chime because I know I'm going to enjoy watching later what everybody else missed shooting because they were digging through their camera bags to find the right lens.
I love using camcorders too. All mine are really old and not great quality but it's all I can afford for now. I stream shows using 3 panasonics This weekends stream I did use my canon c100 MK1 though. So much more fun than using my DSLR. Great video as always Markus. A pleasure to watch 😊
I love when you do Camcorders, I love them too. Currently using a Sony AX-33, the only thing I don't like about it is the Zoom is weak, and viewfinder wimpy. I shoot Surfing videos and like the small size.
Love that Sony RX 100Vii. I think it's a must have. I went to Italy and Cuba with a Panasonic 40x optical zoom tiny camera ZS60 and loved the pics and video. I can imagine the Sony is better. Talk about fun. Thanks Markus
Marcus can good video (and audio) from a rock. Always amazing stuff!
You two are really having great fun with your cameos 😂
Thank you Markus for always giving the raw facts, and showing what truly matters in equipment as always!
Happy to see my another favourite youtuber "Camera Conspiracy" with you Markus! ❤
Thank you Markus! Always a joy seeing your reviews!
I lol'd at your 'weak moment' at buying the big cameras, I have done so, too. I love camcorders, particularly the built-in ND filters, the really well-placed and thought out buttons/placement.
As a long-time viewer I want to share one thing I have invested in last year that is next level, it's a Skarhoj Color Fly V3, which is a camera shader so I can control my muilticams with a single interface. It's not user friendly to setup, but once it's going it is amazing...
I saw the RX100VII coming a mile away, Markus (because I saw your video comparing it with the XF605). I have a RX100V and I take it everywhere. Thanks!
I love the AX53. I use it for top-down shots mainly now. I do love the Z90V and may end up still investing in one. Camcorders offer great functionality to gain greater focal length. I would love to see you do a similar video on ENG style cameras to add in the Z280, or the Z150. Great video! Thanks Markus!
that would be great, to see ax53 with 1" sensor from sony zv-1 series ^^
Couldn't agree with you more! I've been using a Canon Vixia HF R600 for a few years and couldn't be happier with the quality. I even use one for streaming my UA-cam show every week - 1080/30 and it gives top quality every time. Bought two of them on eBay and paid all of $250 total.
Excellent Video!
The Panasonic and others have many adjustable, fun features, extreme zoom, options and abilities too.
The Shoulder Cam's are delicate. Drop them/Knock them once and they are unusable - their beautiful lens's are glued or thin plastic sealed to the body unit. Put them on a very strong tripod, and rope them off, or never let them leave your shoulder or padded carry bag.
The hand held cam's will work until their internal parts wear out, as long as the damage isn't intentional or extreme. The valuable parts are protected by a solid unit of hard plastic with no vulnerable or delicate areas.
The equipment "value" lines are being blurred from cell phones to hand held, to shoulder mounts, due to digital and microchip advancements. A talented post production/effects person can see all 4k/high-def the same,, no matter what it was captured on, and then process and render out, into their own vision of quality.
HC-X1 is from 2016, discontinued and replaced by the HC-X20. MSRP for the X20 is $2600, everything has been improved. My kitchen is airconditioned, but I shoot motorsports in the hot sun, 90-100 degree heat, dust, and smoke.
Sounds like my expected use. I currently video on my phone, but heavily eyeballing the X20 for drag racing. That Sony Z90V was looking very tempting with up to 960fps, but it costs more, the X20 has more physical controls (great for making changes on the fly without having to interrupt recording to navigate menus), and that 960fps is only good for a few seconds of real time recording. 120fps is plenty fine for me, and can work Topaz magic on it to slow it down even more if needed.
A real viewfinder and built in ND filters are an absolute must. I also like a massive zoom and smooth servo.
Is that what you tell the women? Massive zoom and smooth servo? 😅
After watching one of your videos (and a few others), bought a JVC GYLS300 and a bunch of MFT len's instead of a giant Panasonic. Great size, weight, image quality, flexibility, battery life and it runs all day without smoke coming out of it.. Use this in conjunction with some MFT cameras as all can share the same len's. Have shot hundreds of hours of broadcast TV in the UK on this. Quite old but very useable. Also had a tiny Panasonic SD900 consumer camera back in 2011 (still have it, still works).. This blew most of the pro 1080p cameras at the time out of the water.
One thing I’m not a huge fan of with smaller camcorders is that they shake easier, and with action zoom shots that’s an issue. I’ve found that servo zoom smoothness usually compromised in smaller but that not definite. Low light capabilities are always something to consider as well.
You prevented me from wasting so much money with these videos. Thanks so much.
Hello Markus, try out the DJI Osmo Poket 3. That would be a great comparison?
I got one. Video soon.
Great video Markus. I use a GH6 as my main camera. Sometimes mirrorless cameras can get so rigged out that a camcorder might be beneficial. More of a run and gun for professionals. The one inch sensor is not good for events though. Indoor event lighting can be all over the place and a larger sensor can make a huge difference.
It's the ergonomics, the style, the state-of-mind you get when you hold an actual camcorder in your hands. - James D Watkins artistic director of PHOENIX PRODUCTIONS.
Love your enthusiasm for the little guys. Thanks mate. Subscribed
Ive been wanting to get back into camcorders, how I started, now using DJI action cams I really miss the hands on, Something like the prosumer sony with the lens hood is what I need / want :P
I use many types depending on my job. The Sony Z280 can't be beat for professional dance, lectures and theater. My Small Sony FX3 (equivalent your Sony A7 line) is amazing for B roll and interviews.
I have a Sony CX240 sat right here (and a Canon 70D, which also shoots amazing 1080p footage). I love this vid for the side-by-side actual comparison of the quality. Also, as I've said for years "all the gear" doesn't make someone creative. Some of the most iconic movies of all time were shot on gear far inferior to even the budget stuff we have access to these days. Thanks Markus!
The large camcorders reminded me of the HDV Sony Z1. I loved that semi pro camera.
3 chip cameras are great
"under the right conditions" is why I moved from a phone (S21) to a legit camcorder and spent more than a $200 entry-level model. I think just under $1000 is the sweet spot for something that will tick all the boxes for anyone wanting good footage with options.
The only thing that's impressive about the Sony is the price which allows one to forgive it for it's quirkiness, but there are no excuses with the Panasonic (I have a VX1...same family as that 981). The Sony will work most of the time for the average family, but you can do wonderful things with that Panasonic. I got a shot of the moon that seemed like I had a high powered telephoto lens on it.
With phones that perform better than $2000 cameras just 10 years ago, we're living in a good time. The Panasonic VX1 is like a DSLR with auto-everything. It focuses, it zooms in & out quietly, it's practically it's own gimbal, the color is almost as nice as Canon's, batteries last forever, doesn't overheat, can be rigged with all sorts of accessories, etc... and in the right hands, it can shoot some beautiful footage.
I'm done with using camera bodies for shooting video when a camcorder is like having 3 lenses in one compact lightweight better performing, more convenient device. Yes, it's better than a phone even if it's bigger. And you can accessorize it (mic, lights, monitors, etc...). I never knew how miserable I was with a DSLR or frustrated I was with using the limited phone camera until I began using a camcorder.
Love camcorders ❤❤great video ! Thank you for sharing!
Big cameras are necessary for long hours live production. SDI, big batteries, power zoom, full of manual controllers. I use the big cameras for live multi camera events and love the smaller ones for personal fun or low budget one man shows.
I love the Sony Z90V and the prosumer AX33 for multi camera productions .. 3 of those cameras fits in a small pelican case. Use the fx3 for manual lenses and pretend I’m a film maker. The Sony A5100 or Sony ZV E10 are amazing for web content.
The Z90V HAS SDI output and you can get optional huge battries for it, and it has a power zoom and manual controllers like you said. Lots of people are using smaller cameras like that for pro multi-cam live stream shoots.
Haha I’m so glad to see the little RX100 took the win again.❤ Z90V and VX981 are great too! 😊
Having the XLR inputs is more about ubiquity and properly adjustable preamps than the semantics of words like "professional". Different things for different use cases. I like small camcorders, but I like the big ones more, partly because I actually find them more fun to use, and more practical because they have all the controls I need while shooting at my fingertips. Separate control rings for focus, zoom, and iris, the jog wheel can further select to adjust shutter speed and gain, ND filters can be swapped out at the flick of a switch, all without having to stop shooting. Plus audio gain adjustment if not using AGC. The law of diminishing returns is in effect, undeniably, but it's the tool I like. It just weighs 13 pounds...
Couldn't agree more. While, my main UA-cam camera is a Canon 90D, I shoot more than one angle. My other cameras are the Panasonic VX981 4k camcorder, my Sony CX440, and my Canon M50. I use the Panasonic most of the time and is the camera I grab first, on the go.
I've used all of those from factors and I can tell you that Markus is SPOT ON!
Thanks Markus❤ Love that Sony 405....that sound is magic
Why did you delete the two videos where you talked about the new god Osmo poket 3
Too many DJI owners with no sense of humor
@@MarkusPix That's a shame, I would have been very interested in your opinion on pocket 3.
Shooting for youtube is easier because you have the time to prepare. But if you have to shoot a 3 hour video in unknown conditions it is a whole other story. No constant lens swapping, excellent built in mic, ergonomics, light, easy on tripod, excellent low light performance, easy media handling, excellent monitoring, no hunting, crisp detail, easy battery system are important then. What a lot of us are looking for is a pro shoulder cam in a smaller form factor. Panasonic should have developed its hvx200 because it had most of that. All bigger camcorder offerings are indeed underwhelming in specs.
Physical buttons are good though. How I'd love to be able to turn off zebras, focus peaking and whatnot via a dedicated button! When you're shooting interviews run and gun style, you simply don't have time dive into the menu for anything. You need to keep your eye on what's happening in front of the camera. Besides, the menu structure in my SONY CVX900 (which does shoot good pictures otherwise) is a pain in the arse. Too bad those big boys aren't any better (and maybe a little smaller). The medium SONY ones (like the Z90V) are a nice size.
Besides, the power zoom is a big PRO for camcorders. Not happening with any photo camera. Sure, you don't need it for talking head content. But out in the field, it's great.
I don't regret getting a Canon G50 several years ago. It's amazing for less than 1K. And will record 4k for hours of an event with its dual cards plugging the power adaptors.
Its other party trick is its smart shoe's audio mike. Amazing environmental sound.
I wish I saw this earlier. I would have bought that little Panasonic camcorder!
At least I'm subscribed now.
Agree with you about camcorders. I've got the Sony AX53 and am very happy with the video quality. It also lacks the green tint often found in Sony colour science that people complain about.
However, as you say, if you turned up for a job with one, rather than one of the bigger camcorders, people wouldn't take you seriously, but imo it actually outperforms them.
The Sony Z90V's footage looked awesome, but is rather expensive!
Wow, surprising to learn the performance differences. That's shocking. Great video!