Cable Explains to the X-Men Why He Failed to Save Genosha Several Times 97 Episode 8
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There theory the Homospaien replace the Neandertals because there more Homospaiens to breed with than Neandertals.. That why some Homospaiens only have 2 percentage DNA from them.
“Another dystopian future where Logan is the last to die”😂😂😂😂 that sent me
You can hear Cable laugh a little when he says “No”
Logen: "Got a problem with that bub?"
He didn't laugh. @@BlueBirdFeather1996
Morph is messy
Cable: No, a utopia. (Proceeds to describe a dystopia)
Genosha is a Canon Event.
X-men: studying and trying to stop timeline from crashing
Miguel o hara: U ALL WILL DIE
Shame is a canon events
Cable: “nah… imma do my own thing”
@@nex5691 Miguel: *“So you have Chosen Death.”*
Like the Ancient One said to Strange in What If season 1.
It's an absolute point in time.
Like father like son.
Logan: Aaw~ Daddy's home.
Good one, I would have preferred something more like okay, okay Summers Men to the Danger Room get all the rage out.
He took that seat tho.
@@babe6835 Right. Logan and Scott has argue and even battle each other many times, but he recognizes Scott as the leader.
I think a better response to "Take a seat, Logan!" would have been "Is that an order?"
@@MatthewTheWolf2029 iys outrageous its unfair
0:28 So basically…
Bastion’s grand plan is to uplift non-mutant Humanity into pseudo-sentinels, then eventually enslave Mutants as a whole into improving the planet on IT’S terms?
they are not pseudo sentinels. they are the next step of sentinel evolution after nimrod
In a sense, yes.
@@Winter0263 No, the offstrings are still humans just upgraded.
I love how Wolverine just needlessly destroys presumably expensive equipment and no one reacts like it’s just an everyday thing haha
Just off screen, Morph and Beast going over to the closet to grab one of the numerous spare view screens they keep around just for this occasion.
Its fine.
Logan's owned many banks and stocks over the hundred years.
"Logan's Lack Of Impulse Control" is actually a section on Xavier Mansion's annual budget.
The cameos, the Summers family banter, Morph shading Wolverine with that dystopia line… I LIVE FOR THIS SHOW.
Cables usage of the word "Utopia" is actually the perfect description given to this potential future.
Unlike what most people think of when people describe places as Utopias it isn't really a positive descriptor. The term actually is a description for "a society thriving by standing on top of another one", like how in Bastions future society basically treats mutants like appliances instead of as people.
Man the writing in this show knows what it is doing.
Edit: Sadly have to correct myself, apparently that definition is not correct/I was told a wrong one, so sadly, my argument doesn't hold.
but what we all can learn from this is to double check if what we know is actually correct, so there would be at least that.
And Cable said that Xavier's dream of Mutants and humans co-exist peacefully finally came true. But not in the way Xavier intended.
I find it odd Bastion has mutants alive and not Sentinelized.
@@LordVanOskuro There could be a chance his sentineli-fictation could cross with the X-Genome resulting in yet another evolutionairy jump, which Bastion doesn't want.
He'd basically ask for to create his own worst enemy if he even attempted it.
@@EnerKaizer: I am pretty certain Bastion already is that. He was created through the DNA of a human and technology of a Sentinel. A mutant by the show’s standard is an offspring born to adapt to the conditions they are in. If the area is composed of radiation, than the baby will evolve naturally to survive in that environment and even thrive.
@@fishnewt1331 not quite. Mutants in Marvel are defined to be humans whose inert X-Genome went active. Getting born with powers or gaining them otherwise doesn't make someone into a mutant, otherwise Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner or Peter Parker would also qualifiy for example.
But I'd love it if they reveal that Bastion is indeed a being who is, by the classic definition, a mutant because Nimrod accidentally crossed machine-life with the X-Genome. Would also bring back the classic line of Mastermold who openly admitted that there is not difference between humen and mutants.
So, even if they take down Bastion, that political card of Xavier is still quite damning. Although... a real strategist knows you never make your move too early... and I think Bastion made a critical mistake.
Nah he didn't. He's better than the X-Men
@@KadenHartley In his own mind perhaps.
@@matthewcoster5535 no he is. If you think about it, Charles is the villain of this entire show. None of this would have happened but nope, he had to go have a love affair with a bird girl, and travel across the other side of the universe. Bastion is better
@KadenHartley bro glazing the hell out of bastion😂
@@ANONYMOUS47725 Agreed. Charles's crime is running away. Bastion's is several attempts at genocide.
Beast: strange....kamar taj......aaaaah I see what ya did there
I don't, explain please.
@@OO-Enterprises
He said strange ..... Then kamar taj which is where Dr strange learned magic
@@ozmasterofmasks5838 Dr Strange reference I get it now. 👍🏾
I kinda like this logic of rather than trying to fear the mutants, taking the technolgical evolutionary step which turns everything on its head again. It's probably the scariest alternate future option i've seen. It's beautifully played in a way that would make the average viewer potentially sympathise with it. Beautiful writing at its best.
No viewer would sympathise with this,no one want to get turn into a cyborg
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 says the guy commenting on his smartphone
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 speak for youself,many poeople wants superpowers and prolonged lifespawn
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 "You want those dirty mutants to come here and steal away are children, do you?! Now get those cybernetics implants! And don't listen to that mutie propaganda about ''losing your humanity' and crap!"
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003 "You want those dirty mutants to come here and steal away are children, do you?! Now get those cybernetics implants! And don't listen to that mutie propaganda about ''losing your humanity' garbage!"
Morph is such a breath of fresh air in all of this
Pretty much makes fun of what we're all thinking 😂
Booster Gold: Hey, it's alright man. You did what you could.
Wrong universe
Shut up, Green Lantern!
@@ligtningdog6399for the last time! I am not Green lantern.
@@ligtningdog6399
Deadpool: UH, HELLO IM ROGHT HERE!!!
Oh that is sad about Maddie.
Seriously, the amount of times he tries to go back and save her but eventually give up?
That… that’s really sad.
Let’s hope she’s in Limbo making Alex her prince lol
He’d have to the hope of saveing her the pain of loseomg her again and again plus the guilt born of what he sees as his failure it would be beyond crippling plus two other factors they don’t show in the show 1) he inherited his mothers powers not his fathers he’d feel her love and her hope for him 2) unlike bishop who is anchored in the point he goes through his portal so he dosent age in the past cable dose he’d see him self beginning to lose strength and speed makeing the guilt worse
0:45 THATS RACHEL SUMMERS!!!! There is still hope that we’ll see her in the show! (Yes, I am delusional, let me have me have my crumbs)
Edit after the finale:
Maybe I’m not as delusional as I thought-
I'm delusional too!!! What an intro if they reveal her in the finale as the person who sent Cable back.
@@SSJRadioBluth you’d think they’d have to, right? Setting aside how cool of a character she is on her own (and she’s so cool, I love her sm, literally one of my top 5 X-Men), she plays a huge part in Cable’s upbringing.
I saw Polaris too before that
I appreciate that they reference Dr. Strange AND What If in this episode.
This show is amazing one of the best things Marvel has produced
Oh they brought the absolute points into this. We kinda knew it cuz the watcher was there
0:28
Morph: we do a lil bit of friendly fire around here
Karmar-Taj? Dr. Strange's school?
Yes
Captain Obvious
Ooo, I missed that. Beast for potential Sorcerer Supreme?
@@Asher_Tye There’s probably a Dr. Strange in that universe.
@@matthewvaneyk4713there is in spiderman TAs which is canon to this show and we even see spidey in this episode
Sounds like the idea of “fix points” in time from doctor who. Events that cannot be altered.
Rachel Summers is coming 🎉
Cyclops' daughter and the phoenix, not Jean Gray just the phoenix
Yes and I hope she meets her half-brother, Cable.
Yeah Scott & Jean need to get on this... though since Sinister kidnapped Nathan, I vote for Stryfe to kidnap baby Rachel...
@@saidi7975 Stryfe does not have the techno-Organic virus, Mr Sinister infected him in series remember .
@@wadewilsondeadpool309It's hard for me not to think of Rachel as the daughter of Jean and the Phoenix after listening to Claremont interviews. It was an idea he didn't have time to fully implement in the comics though Rachel never really seems to have much feeling for Cyclops so maybe that's an inkling. Not that she would know but whatevs.
So the Genosha incident was a canon event
ABSOLUTE. POINT.
THEY ARE DIFFERENT G-
Miguel intensifies
In the comic Genosha like basically cured, like it fell mutiple time under both human and mutant leadership. It also gotten taken over by zombies at one point.
Correct.
The same thing @@Firemaster27
Humans aren’t more evolved then Neanderthals, there were several human species and branches that existed in the past. We are the result of outcompeting and hybridizing with them. Trask the creator of the sentinels was an anthropologist that went hard on the Neanderthal idea, kind of ironic he made a race of machine mutants.
To be fair the comic writers keep on having the mutants repeat this point all the time even when they didn't understand anything about evolution.
@@Underworlddream Yeah... common science fiction trip up evolution has no predetermined path or destination irl
How are they Mutants? In comics Basins is a human Hybrid with Nimrod and Master mold. Join together.
@@sophiawilson8696 Sentinels in the comics have literally changed and evolved over time with healthy mix of genetic engineering. Children of the Vault being an example.
I know that’s not Josh Brolin but it’s really close I gotta give whoever that is credit
It's the actor who played Gambit in the original series
He was the son in Kung fu legend continues to..
Chris potter
I have to keep reminding myself that's not Josh Brolin
0:40 those two mutants were last scene in the original XMAS. They were with Wolverine in the DOFP episode that introduced Bishop.
It’s so weird to me that they’re still trying to coexist even after hearing they’re gonna be turned into slaves for humanity. They clearly hate mutants with every fiber of their being. Charles path is one of peace but that’s it. He might have made a kids school for mutants but he doesn’t do anything about the discrimation mutants face everyday
I don’t want the Genosha massacre to be a fixed point in time.
Magento really should stop trying to make his own Mutant nation, it never work out well for him or anyone involved. In the comic I think they did it like 4 or 5 time by now and he still think it a good idea despite how it always ending badly.
Me after this scene: SO HOW ARE YOU GOING TO BRING BACK GAMBIT THEN 😭😭😭😭
ngl i thought Morph was Charles for a minute
Same
Bastion is really that strategic villain, framing the X-Men making them the villains in the public eye.
0:30 Cable says it’s Xavier’s dream, but really it’s Magneto’s. A world where mutants became the dominant species as evolution intended and doing things innovatively. I think all Xavier ever wanted was one where mutants and the rest of humanity can coexist, which ultimately never truly happened for any sustained period of time. 🤔
Marvel did too many "Vs X-men" comics already but I get the feeling we are getting a "Spider Society/Spderverse Vs X-men" at some point in the comics where The Phoenix will try to burn down the Web of Life and Destiny.
Spiderman was shown to present the fact that Spiderman '98 is confirmed. yes.. like Xmen '97..Spiderman '98 is next.
@hot04281981 wouldn't it be Spider-Man94 since thats the year it came out
@@ShirouBrando i think '98 is more appropriate because xmen '97 cameod spidey. and spiderman will continue his adventure from that day the planetwide EMP from magneto was felt?
This is starting to sound like a bad comic book plot
2:12 Why did Wolverine casually destroy the professor’s expensive equipment?
He’s pissed because Bastion is turning the world against the X-Men.
Cable's an ultimate Badass!
Was.....he is soft in this and what was up with the weird magneto displays through this episode
I don't blame Cyclops
Wolverine is a better leader and love interest for Jean and you know it
@@KadenHartleyno
@@KadenHartleyLol never
😂😂@@KadenHartley
omg! Rachel Summers made a cameo and using her phoenix powers :o i LOVE her, i have read most of the classic Excalibur comics and she is one of my fave characters along with Kitty Pryde and Megan!
Excalibur was a great series. Probably my favorite spin off X book.
yeah im guessing shes not hosting it at that point otherwise even sentinels would be powerless to stop her
So basically: Genosia is a canon event.
Then that also means there's no undoing the events and bringing back Gambit, like so many fans in denial were expecting.
Gambit's gone for good.
They really doing gambit dirty if that's tru
Like heavens no one would want to see any of the X-Men(or any superhero) gets killed off but when 1 does whether it's Gambit, Rouge, Cyclops or even Storm, they're either coping that the writers of the show would fine a way to bring them back. As if its like a love one they lost but couldn't do nothing to bring them back which this show is much trying to emphasize with the events that happened with Genosha so that the impact of someone being lost leaves an impact in the story.
😂he’s literally resurrected by Apocalypse next season
Let's hope it's before magneto puts a baby in Rogue lol @@eskanda3434
@@lavardokemp3827 "Nobody stays dead except Uncle Ben."
A fixed point in time as the Doctor would say
Kamar Taj?? A Dr. Strange reference!!!
He made a cameo in the old show too.
Yep.
Where is Apocalypse when you need him ha :D
If anyone’s biding their time from afar, it’s him
He is back from the astral plane after the beyond good and evil Saga!!
We might actually get Stryfe OR we might see more of Cable's timeline where Apocalypse keeps him as a potential vessel.
If they made Bastion this terrifying, Apocalypse is going to be curing people's constipation
@@solblackguyWill he make Gambit one of his Horsemen?
I mean, Cable would need a couple of old military friends, a huge ship/gateway/AI, an older sister with a clan of followers, a group of young recruits having previous experience with associates of the X-Men, that guy from Saskatchewan, the young version of himself that tries to kill him every once in awhile, pockets, ..... is that everyone?
Amazing
Deadpool: well... that's just lazy writing.
Man, this new-old X men is amazing. Well done.
IT'S RACHEL!!! 0:45
Honestly, there's a lack of an adventure between Cable and Deadpool in this universe, after all, there isn't a friendship as strong as Cable and Deadpool in the comics, they're considered kind of friends, so much so that Cable is willing to save him in Genosha during the events of his game
“So another dystopia where Logan’s the last to die…”
Morph that is NOT FUNNY I cried SO MUCH DURING “LOGAN”.
That frown Logan gives after Morph says he's the last to die = 😂😂😂😂
I can't unhear it when Cable sounds like Gambit. Cable VA was Gambits in the OG
Mon ami
Gambit's death was a canon event.
Is that in 00:45 Rachel Summers as the host of the phoenix. If so it doesn’t make much sense as I doubt the Phoenix Force could be contained as a slave
There are times when Rachel only gets like a piece of the phoenix force maybe that's what is happening here.
Yeah, she has to actually call on it to get the full Phoenix Force. She also started out as a hound for a future mutant hunter, so she can be enslaved.
0:59, Holy hand grenades, Ship/Graymalkin?
I am very glad they making this stick because technically in the original show that’s how they fix the problems. I think it’s time to see how they solve issues that can’t be prevented. Not do what magno did tho…
I am surprised Cable didn’t pull out his Fanny Pack and put lip balm on while giving the rundown 😂😂😂😂
Kinda seems like the mutants are trying to prevent the next evolution that will surpass them just like they surpassed humans. And they're also mad that humans got a utopia.
The hell is the point of destroying a TV. Lololol
It did look cool though. 😂
Classic short tempered wolverine
They kinda did fake Xavier's death to Garner support.
I like that Cable kind of sounds like Brolin a bit.
Just like in the Flash movie, certain events are inevitable and cannot be changed.
In the Marvel comic, it said that some events in time are lockdown to prevent changes because it may make things worse or basically create a temporal war where timetravelers would fight over events in time and assasinating people to prevent people from being born to change history.
Marvel Civil Wars is an event that was a lockdown to stop people from changing it.
Thing like the Sentinel is said that no matter who you killed, the idea of a Sentinel would always come into being.
wait a minute. I recognised that depiction of the timelines as seen in loki!
What a backhanded statement... Lmao. "Xavier got his wish", huh? He thinks Xavier wanted mutants to be enslaved? Ain't no way he's THAT dense. Whatever, what did I expect from MODERN X-Men writing? The fool is I.
All you do is whine and complain like a wuss
God this show is so good
Is this connecting to Wolverine and Deadpool? It would be cool tho 😅
Genoshia is a canon event AND the branched timeline imagery from Loki
straight line signifying timeline generally common depiction of a timeline in the media Loki show has not invented that concept😂
Here we go with Disneytards thinking the MCU invented everything in a Marvel property again
Polaris... Rachel (Phoenix)...
0:45 ok, thats Rachel , so why the F did Bishop suddenly become the one to save Nathan??
I don't want to believe maddie is dead
Spider-man 2099:It’s a canon event Cable….(his theme blares in the background)
Cable have jeans power....remember he pulled his gun using his mind....and got cyclops power too...look at his eyes glowing...maybe he can use optic blast too
Now, the real question is how this bad future led to Cable fighting Apocalypse in the future?
They cant explain that 🤡, the writing of this show is awful
Yeah this future doesn't make sense since back to old season, Cable was fighting Apocalypse and old Sentinel robot, not this kind of Sentinel
@@SWOTHDRA nice face you got there
@@Keito-santhe future was changed probably
Likely all the times we saw Bishop and Cable alter time and that one season finale that got rid of Apocalypse may have changed the timeline so this Cable grew up in a different future than the Apocalypse ruled one.
So, did they basically say that they cannot truly reverse genosha?
I’m surprised more people aren’t talking about the Spider-Verse Easter egg.
Morph is unsettling 🤦♂️
Notice the Apex Predators bit MCU. I wish they stay with comics origin story.
with that distopian logan comment.. we sure that only one person in that room travel times and wreties haha
Cable:My mom dead
The existence:Sorry its a canon event deal with it
Man Scott and Son Nathan need to Squash their Revelry Sincerely He knows dad Scott has his Back! man i hope Cable Understands why Scott had to save him! I would love to see that Reaction Theatrical with James Mardsens Scott Sunmers Cyclops and Nathan Summers Cable well Done Portrayal my favorite Actor of Course Josh Brolin! Yeah to see The actors live action Marsden Brolin and Famke Jansen's Gene Grey to portray this onscreen would be So Awesome!! 🥹🤣🤣🤣👌🏽
Cable kind of sounds like his MvC2 counterpart.
So no Gambit coming back because it's a canon event/absolute point.
Genosha, a absolute point, the people that were on the island when it happened is a different story.
Also the comic literally every time they make a mutant nation it get destroyed and somehow, they never learn not to go their sense they become a fish in a barrel. I think they tried this like 4 or 5 time by now and they still haven't learn their lessons.
So the attack on Genosha is a absolute point in time but does that mean they can’t save gambit?
No, i'm afraid not. Which makes the whole tragic event even sadder.
@@Asupernaruto1 I mean I wouldn’t count the idea out fully. It just says the attack on Genosha was an absolute point in time. It didn’t say anything in changing stuff within that absolute point. As long as that event occurs it’s fine. I have a feeling it will be solved in some way.
Genosha maybe a absolute point but not necessarily who going to be on that island or get killed.
Does this mean that Gambit won't be coming back?😢😭
Is it just me or 0:02 sounds like Josh Brolin?
So Gambit is unequivocally, undoubtedly...
Cry about it
Becoming a horseman of Apocalypse
A badass character.
0:45 Rachel ☺️🤗
Getting real tired of Absolute Points, Fixed Points, Canon event kind of storylines. Kinda defeats the purpose that there are Infinite Universes with Infinite Possibilities. So what they're telling in these stories is that the universe is forcing everyone to certain destiny meanwhile also telling a story that destiny can be broken. Kind of confusing with all these counterproductive time travelling story plots.
My annoyance is that it sort of devolved into a hand waving, just because it has to happen and just become lazy writing. Original it was more complex before it was dumb down.
Like in one marvel comic, absolute points are created by certain powerful beings to prevent time traveler from trying to change the event because it could make things worse or lead to a time war between timetravelers trying to rewrite history and erasing people. While people can time travel and do things, certain time and event are off limits because of this danger.
Xmen comic sort of stay in their own corner and don't follow certain thing establish in other Marvel comic. Like they have it that certain thing always going to happen, for example no matter what sentinel creators is destroyed, sentinel will always come into existence. One timeline where they are created by mutant themselves to hunt mutants.
Rachel summers!!!
I miss gambit
2:10, quick someone change the channel or turn the TV off.
Wait why are they saying Cyclops is Cable's dad? Cable looks older than Cyclops 😂😂😂
I can tell you didn't read the comics or pay attention to the show at all
So Sinister did make the techno organic virus to make them invincible but does Bastion has upgrade the techno organic virus to turn humans into Prime Sentinals?
Bastion is basically Nimrod reborn in human form.
@@Ghostkilla773 Nimrod is the worst one to be created in the future...and worst making Bastion a living weapon to hate mutants, I have a feeling that Nimrod will come back to reek havoc in next episode.
Por lo que veo nadie nota la referencia en las imagenes holografucas verdes
Genosha is such a deeply canon event
The mystics of khmertage
HEY LOGAN, YOU GONNA PAY FOR THAT?
So it was a Canon event?
Canon Events
isnt the green haired woman, magneto’s daughter?
Yeah!!
Yep, Polaris/Lorna
Miguel O hara is proud of the Genoshan event. Its a canon event after all
Aren’t Scott and Jean Cable’s parents?
No, you brainless idiot. Scott is, but Madelyne Pryor was the mother.