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Too be honest, I don't blame Magneto. He surrender himself to the United Nation to give himself a chance to follow Charles path. Then the extinction of Genosha reminded him of why he has to makes the most radical decisions for Mutant kind. He's done playing politics and is now acting.
Yes he's done playing nice Charles is wrong Magneto is right where you there were Gambit died were was Charles when your own people needed you hiding in space Xavier he's no room to talk.
Thats the the problem magneto is just as extreme. Making decisions emotionally is gonna backfire
@@brandonwilliams5526You do realize that Magneto is giving the humans any reason and excuse they need to hate mutants right? As long as humans like Senator Kelly or mutants like Magneto exist, the conflict will always be an endless circle.
Well no one can anticipate terminator shenanigans to mess everything up
Magneto was right all along, this rate we kind of don’t blame him for going over the edge
“None of you were there the day Genosha fell”
Nightcrawler is right there but ok
Was thinking the exact same thing. He was there he was fighting to save it. And he had a lot more of a connection that rogue to that place he was the religious representative of the council or whatever
She talking with the rest of the group not Kart.
@@Asupernaruto1 Kurt is part of the group.
@@nickdentoom1173Since when? just now?
A small flub in the script but point still stands
"I promised a boy a future free of fear, only to watch his frightened eyes be vapored inside his tiny skull, because he believed in me." 🥺🥺🥺.
Leach. The boys name was Leach. Magneto triad to save him & the Morlocks. While trying to hold the monsters back Leach clung to him & he told him it would be alright.... But that child & others became casualties
Justice for Leach!
Magneto: How many more of your bones will pave the way for Xaviers future?
Wolverine: 😰
"Please don't mean me " said wolverine internally
Lol he'll be alright. If I remember his healing factor stopped him from dying in the comics, but damn it must've hurt and i'm really surprised how fast they're going through the arcs from the comics
Well, Wolverine is kind of an idiot when you think about it.He attacked a man with magnetism powers and keep saying that Magneto started the war when it was clearly part of the UN and bastion and mister Sinister.
@@brandonfitzgerald-eo3tkHe does hate Magneto a lot but yes, he is kind of a simpleton
@@rumbazumba3189 Yes, he's basically the answer to the question.When you let your emotions control you over your common sense
This is what makes Magneto a great villain. His methods are wrong, but his motivation is reasonable. He lost his family and he did not want to go through that pain again. But his anger twisted his mind and he became no better than the man who started WW2. Magneto is not right but his anger justified.
Magneto really did try, and gave numerous chances.
@@Aleaaitacest3736 Palestine is filled with bigotry…
Magneto is right! He gave too many chances and thousands died!
@@chrisidornigie So he kills thousands of innocents back? Yeah, keep backing the wrong horse pal
@@cheapfinish6224What was he supposed to do here? The Prime Sentinels were enslaving Mutants! What else could he have done?
We are not gods, Magnus!
Gods abandon those who believe in them 1:38
Dumb quote somone who dosent understand God
@@boomee78Chill man. It's a figure of speech
Reminds me of how in Elie Wiesel's Night the concentration camp inmates put God on trial & find God lacking.
@@boomee78 High Evolutionary: There is no God
To be fair, where df is he? When is he gonna step up? 2 world wars ain't enough to make a Slient god wake up?
You can hardly blame Rogue and Sunspot. Rogue was just about to start a new life on Ginosha only to see it get destroyed along with one of her closest friends. Roberto was literally abandoned by his mother at the most crucial moment when he needed her. She closed the door on him as he was taken away, leaving him to whatever fate the prime sentinels had for him. There's a limit to how tolerant you can be, and I say they reach beyond the limit.
Exactly all any mutants wants is a true home and to be left alone and all humanity does is provoke them for no reason other than being born different
@josephbridges4914 It gets worse when you realize that those who chose to become prime sentinels basically became what they wanted to destroy. Mutants are a natural evolution of humanity, yet they choose to go through a forced process of evolution to become what Bastion is.
I get Sunspot's point of view completely, but Gambit died saving Rogue, and as many as he could save, is this really the way to honor his sacrifice, and is this really what Remy wanted for her.
@dreamwalker2865 To rogue, this isn't about honoring Gambit and the other mutants that died. This is about fighting to assure that other mutants don't die the way they did. I mean, the way she discarded his jacket is her way of acknowledging that this is something he wouldn't have approved of, so she knows she's not honoring him.
I agree, Rogue and him definitely had justifiable motives
That said, I thought Sunspot acted like an annoying simp during the battle when he was trying to apologize to jubilee for hitting her
The same jubilee that he completely brushed aside the relationship he built with her throughout the show
So yeah, he may have an understandable motive, but he’s still not a very likable character to me
For someone who reads minds, professor X is the most inconsiderate man ever. If he had did the following:
1. Hear Magneto’s grief and just listen. Magneto upheld a dream he did not share and was betrayed. Obviously Professor X was right for critizing his approach but he was not there for his friend.
2. Have a plan instead of reacting to events. Had Professor X approached with a plan to get Justice on the people who wronged the mutants, agreed with Magentos approach in a scantuary, and from there empathized with his goals, Magento would have listened.
Magneto's helmet prevents Professor X from reading his mind
@@purpledragons1146 I believe we don’t not understand each other. I am referring to simple dialogue. With Professor X he just reacted and tried to preach a good fight but he did not take into consideration he failed his friend and set him up to fail. It has nothing to do with a helmet, just merely good communication skills.
When Rogue is wearing her green (not green and yellow.) uniform 🥋 you know she’s going to side with her old boss/ex Magneto. It’s one of her old Brotherhood uniforms.
Me olvidé de esa referencia. Tienes razón
The thing that sucks is that Magneto is justified for his anger so its hard to just say "He's evil.". He genuinely tried to do it Xavier's way and they were sort of getting close to doing it before it was destroyed. Only problem is he's got all humans in his crosshairs not just the ones who sent the attack.
Anger is self destructive.
Honestly, I'm surprised Magneto didn't decide to take out the world leaders revolutionary France style on TV. He's VERY capable of that and would consider it to get his point across.
The problem is that magneto is right but hes too dangerous and must be stopped. he himself turned on apocalypse for punishing the innocent along with the guilty
There's a difference between understandable and right. I understand Magneto, but I don't believe he's right. Even putting aside that 20% of the population - about 1 billion in 1997 - are just kids who are innocent of wrongdoing, Magneto is at that moment hurting humans AND mutants. I think Magneto might think he's doing this for the mutants, but I think he's doing this largely for himself.
Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, for all eternity, never ending.
@@treek10k gods abandon those that believe in them
magneto has been proven right in every single future story. mutantkind is always decimated and humanity is to blame. xavier is the "good" stance to take but it's also an idealistic and naive stance@@Ares99999
Magneto is right and should NOT be stopped. Everything is justified, humans only knows hatred, bypass the mistreatment of mutants instead of defending mutants. All humans non-related to mutants have hatred in their heart, especially the mutants that look different. Magento been right but the plot armor will make him lose.
Charles: my X men, this is definitely an Avengers level threat now.
them folks will get washed real quick.
@@goat1408 fr. I mean *Ironman* Cpt Ameria and his shield fr??
They can do heavy lifting but they also have to try deal with the fallout, villains, damage and other collateral from the emp
@@goat1408 avengers can take X men and have already done it before. Hell, Hulk and thor can solo and Ironman has counters to fight magneto.
@@AnonTDegenerate Ironman has counters for magneto. You think tony wouldn't prepare when going against someone whose powers counter him?
This is an xmen show. Sick snd tired of the avengers who were only pushed because they had a richer backer aka disney.
I joked about this man going full char aznable but he's literally doing the whole "those who cling to earth are vermin" thing.
Char is cooler than Magneto. Change my mind.
@@shailennanu5491 I like them both. And both would likely kill each other given the opportunity
Perfect comparison indeed 🤌🏼
idk but the writing on the Genosha incident screams Gundam
@anenemystand5582 One pilots a mecha, and one doesn't. I think the choice is clear lol
Difference is that Char never betrayed anyone.
Jesus, the fact that Xavier can't come up with a counter to Magneto's "Will Humanity undo Genosha?" Was an OOF
Him mentioning Leech's death in gruesome details hurts even more😢
Nobody can out debate Magneto, he's owned everybody in every episode so far of the series. Whether it's the United Nations, Cyclops, or even Charles Xavier himself, Magneto has verbally owned and humbled them all.
@@fmthebaronyeah in this circumstance that’s a strawman argument founded on pain. Of course humanity can’t replace the lives lost. That’s like asking if the Germans can undo the holocaust. But use that argument to justify attacking Germany after the holocaust happened is lunacy.
@@fmthebaronhe’s also equating all of humanity to like 5 people responsible for Genosha. Apparently Remy’s human friends are responsible for his death.
The issue is that he's targeting all of humanity for the crimes of the ones who did the attack. Along with any mutants who stand against him.
Not to mention Charles doesn't have a leg to stand on, metaphorically speaking. HE tried to abandon Earth and couldn't even commit to THAT so now he has nothing, not even good faith.
Good job Rogue, "honoring" gambits death, join a man who is planning genocide and with whom you cheated! Truly the best!
Gambit's gonna be Apocalypse Horseman anyways. Try to keep up.
@@AggrofoolWe all don't have acces to comics bro
@@Aggrofool found the dipshit
There’s still one episode left and my mind blown away while watching this episode. Still can’t even think reasonable theory ways on how they wanted to stop the war with the mutants fighting with each other as well as against Bastion. So many things messed up in this episode😵💫. Hopefully wouldn’t getting any cliffhanger in the last episode.
For Rogue, literally Rogue just turn her back against her own family to join and get back with Magneto (Stand by her choice to lead the new genosha and marry Magneto🤢). Not a fan with this scene and with all of Magneto and Rogue stuffs. Just please bring back Gambit as Death and smack the hell outta this two😤. Gambit deserved someone better.
@@Raphaelnaim_08 I doubt she'll marry him or anything. If anything she's still falling from Gambit's death. Like how she attacked the base and ditched the funeral all for revenge. Now she's getting revenge and assurance something like that can't happen again.
It always boils down to truth and ideals. Xavier and Magneto were exposed to the other's path this season. And now look at how BROKEN Magneto is now that hes lost hope.
At this point I'm surprised neither side has tried a watchmen/Halo flood situation lol.
a different enemy makes 2 sides surprisingly friendly
POKEMON BLACK AND WHITE MENTIONED, RAAAAH
TRUTH AND IDEALS, RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
he lost hope way too many times. He was almost reasonable, but a robot-hybrid controlling minds of humans proved him wrong? come on, Magneto didn't even try to think. He sought comfortable excuse.
Magneto and Rogue: "We don't want anymore mutants to die."
Also Magneto: * kills thousands of mutants along with humans by messing with the magnetic field of earth. *
Yeah it can happen coz hospitals or cars or planes will shut down.
Yeah people seem to forget the at it’s stuff like this that will guarantee humans will fear and hate mutants. Like ultimatum is the perfect example of this where magneto used his powers to kill millions across the globe and all it did was make more humans despise mutants rather than make them respect mutant kind
2:14
Rogue questioning where the hell is Bishop like most viewers would think of and Morph's limited screentime in the series is kinda Hilarious 😂
Magneto speaks the painful yet logical truth about the seemingly volatile and somewhat fruitless reality of Charles' dream of co-existence between mutants and humans. Magneto has already warned all the echelons of the UN council that its leaders are untrustworthy, conniving and deceitful in their decisions. He tried very hard to not let them down and to realise Xavier's initial peaceful plan yet when the Genosha holocaust occurred, they instead turn their backs on him and his companions. As a result, he will no longer give them any chances since they have squandered all of them. However, despite all of this, even Magneto's long-term vision is unacceptable and irrational either. Ruling over a created paradise with him as the undisputed overlord is also not applicable as well. At the end of the day, Magneto's ideas, albeit, noble were in fact also violent in all its practice.
Your essays are 🔥
Facts
Noble yes but sheer hypocrisy as well.
That one reveiwer (Don't remember the name): You can't have heroes and villains when the "wrong" side is making the best sense.
Evil is subjective
I mean, Magneto gave humanity so many chances. And even in their time of need, the UN didn’t do a thing for Genosha. Magneto was right
So by your own logic humanity is justified in killing mutants for magneto’s actions that killed thousands of innocent civilians who had nothing to do with genosha? It’s this logic that leads to the future where humans and mutants alike get killed by the sentinels
What was Magneto to do though? Let prime sentinels destroy all mutants and then start killing civilians?
Exactly 😂
You realize he didn’t give a single care about the prime sentinels right? He was just murdering civilians for “revenge” against humanity. He never gave a damn if humanity went extinct
apocalypse : how about you join my rank gambit
gambit : i’ll take that bet
What Professor X does not realize is that Bastion and other humans are playing a Zero-sum game with Mutants.
He's naive.
It's the problem that this show is framing beautifully. Magneto IS right. Always has been. At least, about the danger from humanity.
Charles is right, that "mass extermination is not a solution". But humanity will never, ever accept mutantkind unless *forced* to.
You need a Charles Xavier, to guide things toward a path that means the least harm for everyone. And you need a Magneto, as a nuclear deterrent.
@@Pyrejust like mlk Jr couldn't have done what he did without the threat of Malcolm x in case mlk failed
@@Pyre Charles Xavier can show humankind that they are not a threat but humans fear Mutant's abilities.
I would fear mutants if they turn out to be evil villains.
SOME humans are. Just as Magento is now. Neither side of that is right. The only way forward that works is finding a way to make peace. How Charles goes about it, some of his speeches, are a bit naive. But ultimately only his way can work. Genocide on either side is not an option.
@@CarlosSuperCuteIf mutants aren't considered a potential threat, then they won't be respected. They'd be exploited, abused, or treated with indifference like those on the spectrum have. Charles' dream is simply that, a DREAM. And while Magneto's actions throughout the show are very much an extreme, they are the only actions between him and Charles that have earned results, however fleeting those results were. This is why Cyclops has to be the one to lead, he's the only one perceptive enough to NOT resort to the extremes that the two aforementioned are so often guilty of.
rogue: "I will not see anymore mutants die"
*joins magneto who's planning on destroying the planet that will kill mutants*
it makes no damn sense.
Magneto's going to take all the mutants to Asteroid M.
@@KingOfMadCowsby force? Because if he’s just asking he’s not really doing anything wrong
@@KingOfMadCows magneto would not be able to save all the mutants. the planet was already starting to die. what about the mutants who wouldn’t want to leave their human loved ones??? magneto isn’t going to let them bring humans into his Astro M. the x-men would be left behind because they would never join him. there would be mutants that will die because of him.
@@nuyoricanbooks
That’s their problem then
@@nuyoricanbooksthat's what they get for siding with oppressors then
Magneto was never evil, just plain angry.
So angry that he is calm. The type of calm anger that most sane beings would fear.
Sure if we
look at it from your perception another way
of looking at it. he clearly is. the guy wanted mankind to be cleansed
from the face of the earth an only wanted mutants to live and or survive
that's just like saying Genghis Khan was never evil just plain angry an that
is why he took over most of the continent of Asia and parts of eastern Europe
think before you type something stupid like that again.
Damn…
Well said
He is trash
Red Skull was never evil, he was just angry, angry at how the Germans were reduced to little because of other countries.
Actually, if you don't notice the similarity between both characters, you are a complete Magneto fanboy, because in a comic Magneto himself calls himself the new Hitler.
@@yuanpucasn4955 dotn know much about red skull past but im sure he wasnt an holocaust victim or saw people women and children he tried to protect dying in front of him ...
becuase if germany was made victim of their hown holocaust in marvel comics i wouldve read about it somewhere by now
Yeah I don't blame them, they tried so hard to play the good path, Charles is a good man and I respect him without fault, but sometimes enough is enough.
Charles is *NOT* a good man. He's done some messed up things.
I don't know, genocide either way is still bad.
@@thebloodedge284 Comic Charles yes, but not this Charles.
@@thebloodedge284 I mean he tries
Charles is a flawed man although comics especially more modern ones try to make.him more villainous then he was probably ever intended to be
If Megneto wants to blame someone over the genocide on Genosha, he should point the finger at Bastion, because he was the one who started these killings on that Island, plus I get that he needs to be angry, but putting the entire Human Race on his list of guilt, while ignoring the fact that we Humans also turn on each other for various reasons, is not justified and he needs to be stopped.
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Don't forget that the United Nations behind closed doors funded operation zero tolerance under Bastion. Valerie Cooper was in collusion with them. Don't forget they were scheming behind closed doors right after Xavier's faux death. The whole thing was an inside job right from the get-go they never really wanted to know they never really wanted Genosha to coexist with them as a nation. There were literally like lambs for slaughter at the mercy of lions tigers and bears (oh my lol).
I used to be sympathetic towards Rogue but not anymore.... She's no better than her mother mystique, she's worse! She wants to throw stones at someone when she's a walking fragile piece of glass herself.
Roberto is reacting out of fear and anger, I guess deep down that he resented jubilee for coming out to his mom only to abandon him do the robots that were well known to kill mutants just to protect her image and wealth. That betrayal hurts like hell.
Exactly they should be uniting together to stop him. Not creating another floating base.
Bastion had humans volunteering to be Prime Sentinels and was supported by at least two world leaders (Valerie Cooper and Dr. Doom). Also humans like Captain America didn't do anything to help.
@@wilcee238 Still, it doesn’t mean the entire Human Race needs to be punished, only those who took part in the massacre.
I dont blame those 3 at this point. Charles, i admire you but yeah. Magneto tried to play the good fight but in the end, its still the same result
That's the best part of this
Nobody is wrong, just have different opinions and you can't blame any sides
@@LightningXXI and yet, some people already feel mad about Rogue decision etc, while forgetting that she used to be a villain fighting alongside the Brotherhood and such
@@LightningXXII don't know about you but killing millions of people seems pretty bad to me.
@@johans3164 well it's just that Bandit wouldn't like this. It's tough to see someone fall yk
@@AnonTDegenerate i get that. But she was overcome with grief. It may be a wrong decision but i def get why she made that choice
Magneto is truly a unique villain; what he does makes him no better than the evil he wants to destroy but his reasoning for doing what he does is justifiable to an extent!
I honestly don’t blame magneto.
I do, he is a domestic terrorist.
Then I will
Same man
Sunspot: You gave your school to a guy, how could you?
Also Sunspot: Im joining the bad guy
Magneto been through so much pain. He survive ww2 and lost his parents. Being hated because he's a mutant and still being hated for trying to be a hero. How can he not be angry.
Excuses. People been thought worst then he has.
He survived the Holocaust
@@INFERNO95 Worse than a Holocaust survivor and all this other crap? Who is/are these people?
@INFERNO95 Many people forget that he's a Holocaust survivor
using that logic then it is okay for black people to straight up murder all policemen because what happened to george floyd
Haha I called it. I knew Rogue is going to be touchy-feely with Magneto again. Gambit must be rolling in his grave now.
Apocalypse, hearing the rolling: You are now promoted to one of my Elite Employees!
@@Benthino Let Rogue witness the new Horseman of Death that she partly created.
She chosed a side not a boyfriend, don't assumed too much yet, if my belief and tactics ended with the death of the love of my life, I would chose violence too. What does a decade of peace with the Xmen had done? Genocide of their people
Ikr. What happened to "something is deeper than skin" in Episode 5 when she said that to Mags? I told people Gambit deserve better but they call me sexist and misogynist for hating her guts.
Am I the only one who thinks she could had asked Forge to make her a power suppression necklace to solve her... personal urges?
just once I need to see Magneto beat the professor with his own char.
Bruh but why though
If I was a mutant too, I'd side with Magneto with holding Bastion accountable as well for assisting the sentinel program.
To be honest, so would I. I gave up on humanity long ago
I think you not getting the point of Magneto ....this is will cause an endless war which is loss from both sides ...Xavier's path is the right one and safest path ..bit it's hard one of which the magnetos generation can't do but the young mutants and humans can make and work together for a better world
Magneto isn't going after just Bastion. He's killing everyone else even though humans didn't cause Genosha
@@colecamp2539 your just a misanthrope
@@Problemsolver434 most of them willingly let themselves be turned into robot hybrids to destroy them. who knows how many of them are left
To quote Tyra Banks. “I was rooting for you. We were all rooting for you! How dare you?”
Who is that in reference to?
@@pksmith4496 Could be Magneto for becoming genocidal again, or X-Men 97 Rogue being X-Men 97 Rogue (I refuse to believe that this is the same Rogue I grew up with, I despise her).
Tyra Banks from America’s next top model.
@@shailennanu5491 I think she’s just going through a lot she lost the man she loves to the sentinel and is not handing her grief in a healthy way but I would absolutely love to see her back to normal and have more sibling interactions with Nightcrawler (that scene with them in ep 7 was so heart wrenching. Also that is a good quote to use for 97 Magneto and everyone watching him “I was rooting for you! We were ALL rooting for you!!!”
@pksmith4496 I'm not gonna lie to you, but it's not really her doing this that annoys me. It's everything she did before to Gambit, now going back to the person she rejected him for before choosing Gambit when it was too late, but even before that she was flip-flopping between those two. Yeah... not my favourite version of Rogue anymore if this really is the one I grew up with. I doubt you agree, but yeah.
There comes a point where turning the other cheek starts looking like rolling over and playing dead. Even if it’s the “right thing”, most people don’t have the stomach for going through that kind of pain again and again.
This Rogue hate is really bizarre, she has just lost the person she loved. Charles barely gave her two lines of explanation for abandoning them all to go play concubine. Is anyone surprised she joined the one guy who was there. Who fought with her? Who maybe understands what she is going through?
The Rogue hate is deserved. She earned it
Unfortunately Xmen has a lot of male fans who really hate Rogue. They do not like a strong female lead and some compared her to the Captain Marvel movies. It's by far this misogyny that's behind this. And they are using any excuse to demand she be replaced
@romy_edits Its cause she's lofty from what I'm seeing. From her alliances to her love life. Gambit died a REJECTED man but you'd swear they were dating with how she talks, and prior Rouge was a villain before the Xmen, and now she sides with Magneto, the guy she rejected Gambit for initially. She doesn't stand for anything, she flip flops. All that talk about hating strong women is bullcrap. Storm is Omega level and got people out here simping.
Not really untreated grief and trauma can make you do unreasonable things like that.
@@romy_editsYet we love the other female characters like Storm,JubiLee, and even Jean 😂?
I’d join Magneto in a heartbeat considering everything that’s happened to him and the mutants. Sure you could save some humans, but others will always hate and threaten you.
I don't get the Rogue Backlash. She was literally on Genosha. Experienced the entire massacre and has to live with choices she regrets (Gambit). She's far too understandably upset to keep following Xavier's Dream. Finally, like him or not, Magneto made some strong selling points. If I was there I'd really consider joining him.
A lot of these “ fans” don’t understand basic human emotion. Your sadly wasting your breath man
Even without being there and experiencing it like watching the news report of it happening like some of the others would probably make me join magneto. Just like cyclops said a few episodes ago about they always saving humans just to keep getting treated like they do by them would have me going f this!
@@toyboimaniac1661 I can tell by your violation of a profile pic that you've gotten off to a lot that happened in the show. Clown.
@@UceScooter If this Cyclops is anything like his comic counterpart, he'll eventually find that balance merging Xavier's and Magnetos's Views together.
Honestly, I don’t Blame Magneto. Yeah he’s a little genocidal but he gave himself up to the UN and tried to create and Utopia Island where Mutants can be free of discrimination. Only to it all be destroyed by the Sentinels.
In my opinion, since Sinister is envolved with that plot, I think that everything is part of Apocalypse strategy to conquest the world. This time he wants to split everyone to conquer them.
In the comics it was Colossus who joined Magneto
I see why..
He really has no other choice
And in the comics Colossus ultimately healed, and turned his back on the Acolytes, so Rogue will be fine
Sunspot has a history of switching sides in the comics as well. He even joined Hellfire after Sebastian Shaw died.
Rogue has gone rogue. Literally.
I have feeling that this is temporary for the following reasons
• Rogue is still grieving over Gambit's sacrifice.
• Sunspot can't be taken as a villain. (Further evident by him apologizing to Jubilee after hitting her with his powers)
• What Magneto did to Wolverine, it's way too obvious that their legions with him is temporary.
• Regardless of the situation, the X-Men helped Rogue through her past because the X-Men are her family.
Again.
They put her back in her bad guy outfit, too.
@@jasonrichter6920 I have a feeling that legions is temporary
@@jasonrichter6920that’s not her bad guy outfit. It’s similar though.
That’s why I always liked magneto because he always makes sense but he goes about it the wrong way its so good and it makes sense for sunspot and rogue to join after everything that’s happened
I like how at this point no one complains about Morph being referred as "them"
Yeah, I'm shocked about that too.
I've seen pricks on twitter complaining
I think she was referring to Morph and Bishop
I definitely see how everything is going… all the old X-men shows are turning into ONE now….. all the cartoon shows they’ve made
Yeah to be honest if I was Magneto situation I'll probably Want ReVenge too create a world save for my people to
To think about, all the issues within the Rogue and Gambit "No Touching"-problem could have been solved by them snatching just one "FoH-Suppression"-collar for private purposes, makes all the forced drama about her character feel like a cringeworthy selfbetrayal. Clearly, Gambit deserved better!
He really isn’t a villain, he gave his trust in the people who destroyed his kind, this is the only way they’ll listen, by becoming what they think he is. A monster.
What happened to genosha that's terrible. But it's not the fault of every single child on the planet
I have feeling that this is temporary for the following reasons
• Rogue is still grieving over Gambit's sacrifice.
• Sunspot can't be taken as a villain. (Further evident by him apologizing to Jubilee after hitting her with his powers)
• What Magneto did to Wolverine, it's way too obvious that their legions with him is temporary.
• Regardless of the situation, the X-Men helped Rogue through her past because the X-Men are her family.
I agree, I think that she just joined because she is very emotionally affected by Remy's death. She will realize her mistake
@@Kapu7Yup, I think she'll turn babyface again either next week or somewhere in Season 2.
She'll probably be getting a redemption arc in season 2. At the moment I think She'll actually leave the Xmen. Jubilee will likely hate her by the end of season 1 and with Jubilee being like Remy's little sister I don't think Rogue will be able to deal with Jubilee's anger and frustration toward her on top of her own regret, grief, and guilt. Given all her mistakes this season its likely she will be on her own for a bit next season.
@@camhill3480 I would actually like that cause for one thing, it will show off Jubilee's sister side & another thing it will finally shut up all the Romy marks.
The heart wants to believe in Xavier's dream but the mind, history and reality say that Magneto is right. The truth is that humanity never learns from its mistakes and is never kind to those who are different or think differently. It's true that Bastion is the villain who manipulated everyone but the truth is that he just knows how human nature works. Humans allowed and funded the creation of Sentinels and world leaders turned a blind eye to Bastion's atrocities because they feared mutants. In the same way, it is not as if a Utopia with only mutants would have peace, after all, Mutants are humans, so there would be prejudice and wars even in a mutant society.
When you fight back and match energy for energy, people are going to look at you like you did them wrong.
I respect Sunspots reasoning and desicision making process (ON par with the others)
Rogue was 💯 right to counter Storm’s “do not turn your back on family” line by pointing out how Storm literally was gone from the team during many of the crisis’ the team has faced throughout this show.
Ororo could have done so much for the team despite not having her powers at the time like provide emotional support and level headed guidance to her so called “family”
So yeah, Rogue was right to call out Storm’s hypocrisy
Storm had a right to do what was right for herself after losing her powers. They were so intrinsic to her identity and she lost them. Storm had no way of knowing what events would happen in her absence. It's like saying that someone taking a trip after suffering a loss of a limb is selfish.
Also to talk about hypocrisy. Rogue is complaining about no one else being there for Genosha (even though Nightcrawler was) and saying it was horrible. Think about what her ex-lover Magneto is causing in that moment. Hundreds of thousands of deaths! And she, Magneto, and Roberto are leaving all but themselves to die? It's hypocritical to an absurd degree.
@@Nightman221k Those hundreds of deaths are generally human, a species who have given Rogue , Magneto and Sunspot no real reason to care about the well being of at this point. And so what if Nightcrawler was at Genosha, even then he wasn’t physically conscious to witness the horror and trauma she and Magneto did.
And regardless of Storm’s motive, she still abandoned her so called family all cause she lost her pretty little powers, powers were not even that much helpful in the fight against the sentinels in this episode anyways XD.
Rogue: I won't let another mutant die.
10 mins later, Magneto ruins her mutant family
Self-defence.
All the mutants on earth would die if Logan and Charles didn't try to force Magneto to see reason.
@@Nightman221k all the mutant will still die if magneto fix earth , after he fix earth those sentinals which magneto shut down will wake up and start the massacre once again
@@anjan17Well which one is better everyone including mutants, humans including Captain America and Spider-Man dying. Or sentinels targeting a specific demographic that they X-Men can protect
Imagine the power level of Magneto! He is holding up an asteroid and having a casual conversation with the X-men! Omega level.....
In the last episode, when they showed the transmission of Charles Xavier being alive on TV, none of the X-Men watching it gave a look of surprise. This was surprising considering they didn't know he was alive.
Last episode of X-Men TAS in the 90's, Magneto saved Xavier's life by sending that message to Lilandra in which she arrived instantly and saved him in front of all the X-Men so they all knew Lilandra had kept him alive. She had to take him back to her Shi'ar to get him back healthy in which she did.
I knew the new Kid Sunfire would join Magneto. His head dropped when listening to Magneto's speech.
Sunspot*
I really can't blame him for having a mother who's a lying traitor.
@@aidanhever3369 Who held a charity event to help Genosha survivors while throwing his mutant son under a bus. Does anyone see the irony in that?
@@striderreborn1467 Like I said, she's a lying traitor. And a hypocrite too.
Team Magneto all the way! I knew Rogue would stay loyal to him after what they went thru on Genosha. Loved that epic music that played when Rogue was going over to Magneto's side.
"Are you prepared to WALK mine?"
"..by walking THIS MAN'S path"
The former to Charles' face, the latter within his earshot.. KNOWING FULL WELL that Charles is in a wheelchair.. Those two felt personal, Mags, and I don't blame him
When he talked about Leach….that hit deep
I saw rogue joining magneto a mile away
Then she's disgrace for Gambit's legacy.
She wants justice for his death
@@toyboimaniac1661 By letting Magneto kill all humans and mutants? That's called "Vengeance".
@@johnsantos507 Magneto’s plan is to have all mutants taken to live on asteroid M. He wants humans to die. Not that difficult a plan to understand.
@@toyboimaniac1661 Does that also he wants heroes who live in New York to die? We know it was Bastion and Mr.Sinister who start the war and turning every humans into prime sentinels!
You can say that she has gone "rogue"
I have feeling that this is temporary for the following reasons
• Rogue is still grieving over Gambit's sacrifice.
• Sunspot can't be taken as a villain. (Further evident by him apologizing to Jubilee after hitting her with his powers)
• What Magneto did to Wolverine, it's way too obvious that their legions with him is temporary.
• Regardless of the situation, the X-Men helped Rogue through her past because the X-Men are her family.
Definitely but I was trying to make a joke here 😅 that said, this joke must be super old now so that's why 😂
@@DeathkaiserGpeople used it two episides ago when she beat up the military and almost killed trask
Magneto has a point even though the coexistence of human and mutant happens. There are always be some entity will try to eliminate the mutants because they believe they are a threat. Magneto just wanted to restart the earth itself.
Magneto demands for justice, while Xavier demands for the status quo. Bastian literally states that he comes from a time when Charle's Xavier's dream comes true but Mutants live under the boot of supercybernetic humans, likely morphed into prime sentinels. If Magneto did not unleash a worldwide EMP, the X-Men were all going to die and than where would that have taken Xavier's point of view? Bishop and Cable's consistent time traveling, show that Xavier's dream is fragile because it constantly needs to be safeguarded by people literally having to change the timeline. Mutantkind cannot hang on the balance anymore as shown by the fact that Cable is unable to jump into the past passed Genosha anymore. There are no more chances. There has to be a radical solution. Magneto has tried every option: from leaving the Earth, to creating a separate nation, to even trying to create a separate dimension.
An EMP has leveled the playing ground and I think unleashing an asteroid onto humanity wasn't actively sought for by Magneto. In every timeline where humanity sought to destroy mutants, they either destroyed themselves or ceased to be humans. Sentinels and Super Cybernetics are the only threats to mutants. Magneto deduced correctly on a solution and saved the XMen. What did Xavier do? Nothing.
Magneto has tried to be better and has tried compromise. Xavier keeps pushing Magneto away and can't make hard decisions for himself. He damned a chance to change the Shi'ar for the better and to propel both humans and mutants into a starfarring civilization by making the hard decision to forget the X-Men. The Shi'ar already have mutant-like royal guards. Together they could've been an unstoppable force for the universe.
The tragedy of Magneto and Xavier is that Magneto is right. Magneto is a leader and Xavier is an idealist. They compliment each other and need to come together. Psychic and Magnetic powers would subdue any and all human threats whether it be from their hearts or their creations. Magneto is not a villain or an antagonist, but the protagonist.
NOT JEAN CATCHING STRAYS 🤣🤣🤣
No fr 😂😂
I still think it would an amazing plot twist if it turns out Cassandra nova Xavier's sister has been helping bastion this whole time cause i swear in the X-Men comics it was Cassandra who launched the attack on genosha
Too much. Let’s not mix storylines as the episodes are not many. Save Nova for a future season.
Would be a good cross promo for the new Deadpool movie where she’s the main antagonist.
For me from ep 1 to now Magneto is the one that makes more sense and is easier to understand his path. While Xavier and Logan are the ones I cannot understand at all with they stubbornes and naive.
"...asked me to walk your path. Are you prepared to walk mine?" And just like that, he ripped the moral high ground away from Charles. He tried to make peace in spite of himself. Charles won't even consider Magneto's path.
Rouge was wrong when she Said non if you were there when genoshia fell
Nightcrawler was there
She obviously doesn’t mean him Jesus you people need to have your hand held
@@toyboimaniac1661 do you khow how to read she was speaking to the entire X-Men when she said non if you were there the day genoshia fell
Including nightcrawler
@@azaz-dc4zk read??? lol 😂 you mean watch dipshit. And yes I have eyes and ears and common sense. She’s speaking to the rest of the actual team that wasn’t there
Yeah I don’t blame rogue or magneto for this as rogue said she was there and they weren’t she and magneto saw what happened she saw how happy every mutant was on genosha only for it to be ripped away and the man she loved taken from her they only saw the aftermath she witnessed it all and all because humans couldn’t accept them. I admire Charles but it gets to the point of enough is enough rogue and magneto have tried Charles path and look at where it has gotten them. There is only so much begging the mutants can do before they finally have enough of humanity as it was stated humanity only tolerated them and that was because of Charles “sacrifice” that’s it.
I’m surprised Cyclops didn’t join Magneto, we saw him get angry over how mutants were treated throughout the series.
It's most likely due to unlike Sunspot and Rouge Cyclops wasn't treated badly due to his Mutant powers especially Rouge with unlike Cyclops Rouge's parents basically disowned and abandoned her same with Sunspot's mom the episode before this. That and he and Magneto rarely see eye to eye compared to Cyclops and Professor X who usually see eye to eye but not too often do they not
Cyclops blasts Xavier’s head off, kicks his fresh corpse into the water and spits. “The X-men are yours, Magneto”.
1:55 Rogue you bold faced liar. We saw you turn down Magneto's offer and choose Gambit, and now you're siding with Mr.Genocide.
She was just in a genocide herself, remember? She tried Charles’ path of peaceful coexistence and got to watch Gambit die for her troubles.
Her decision makes since even if the dialogue is a bit dodgy.
This is Colossus' storyline how it is Rogues fault when DeMayo wrote her like this
Yes Rogue is just as much a traitor as Charles you made Gambits death and ultimate sacrifice be for nothing but when he gets resurrected by Apocalypse he disses Rogue by going with Polaris instead in your face Rogue.😂
Magneto said nothing about genocide, all he said was literally "I'm ditching this planet, anyone wanna come with"
@@brandonwilliams5526 Shut up misogynist
Rogue want Magneto so badly
It was actually Colossus who joined Magneto in the Comics after the death of his Sister Illiyana to the legacy virus!
"whos dying next? Jean? ha been there done that" rogue foreshadowing something..
she died before in the original series
1:40 so Magneto went from Judaism ✡️ to becoming a atheist.
Magneato: I tried reason. Now I show the world what is a real villain. 💀💀💀💀😈😈😈😈
X-Men 97 should've been nominated for a Daytime Emmy for best drama. Lol
I'm surprised many agree with Magneto. While I agree that his viewpoint is understandable and sympathetic, he's still essentially doing the same thing to that humans have done to them even though Mr. Sinister and Bastion caused Genosha's fall. On the other hand we have Xavier, who is technically right but too idealistic and doesn't face reality in his pursuit for his dream.
This is why we have Cyclops, a man who truly does believe in Xavier's dream but like Magneto goes on the front lines and has to deal with the hatred of mutants. Hopefully we can see Scoot grow into the balance between Xavier and Magneto.
Rogue has no right to say what she did. Not when Kurt did so much to try and protect her. And was nearly killed for it. "None of you were there the day Genosha fell." Notice she didn't mention Kurt in her little speech at all. Does she even care about him anymore? The poor fuzeball deserves so much better.
Why does Rogue refer to Morph as "them" in 1997?
I like how Sunspot finally joins up with the crew just to immediately side against them
Make sense
Even with what Rogue did, if the X-Men are a true family, they won't abandon her.
what she did , she finnaly is willing to step for herself and her kind , not be a cowerd like rest of x men are
Gambit is very disappointed in Rogue right about now
Why are you not disappointed with Beau De Mayo instead
@@kisaragistation5220 Because my character did not die
@@Symphonia30 And who is that?
@@kisaragistation5220 The character he played. I bet gambit in death would want rogue to honor Professor Xavier’s wishes not turn against them
@@Symphonia30 What?
God this show tries to hate rogue so hard😂😂😂
Nah. People aren’t black or white.
@@jackkolero she is the worst character so far deal about it
Rouge and Roberto are right in their point of view. Rouge lost so many friends and love of her life and had to watch her own kind die on Genosha, and Roberto was sold to prime sentinels by his own mother, his mother!? Both tried Professor X way it didn't work so well now they will try it Magneto way😔.
"I think we're going to have to kill this guy Charles."
"Damn."
Can't believe sunspot joined magneto because of his mother betrayed him
I mean what would you do?
I might not join a genocidal maniac, but I'll definitely resent humans.
Dude, it’s his mother
His mother delivered him to Sentinals Prime anyway, just after forbidding him to divulge his mutation. It's still quite serious.
Like seriously, if your parents sent you off in collars and chains, would you NOT be pissed?
He's valid for it though what do you mean.
So disappointed in Rogue even after Gambit's sacrifice but I also can't really blame her choice here.
She did start out with a villain group before joining the X-men and this happening now just gives her character some much needed interest.
It’s not even starting off as a villian. She got to briefly witness mutants living happily on Genosha only be be wiped out almost immediately because of humanity’s hatred.
Her choice makes total sense. You can’t make peace with these people. They won’t let you.
@@jaycol21 And yet in the comics Colossus came to the same conclusion but ultimately came to believe in the dream again. So too will Rouge.
@@cheapfinish6224 Yes this is not even her storyline. This is the doing of Beau DeMayo alone
I believe Rogue will come to her senses either in this season or in Season 2.
And who are you Rogue's mother? Oh wait. Mystique would actually be proud of her
Given everything that happened in this season Rouge going bad here made a lot of sense can't wait for season 2 this delivered on exactly everything it build up
I would most likely join Magneto in his cause if I found myself in this situation. How many times have the X-Men fought and put their lives on the line for everyone, yet they're still hated and scorned and jeered just because they're mutants? The most they've ever managed to gain from humanity is tolerance and even that is short-lived. How long can they fight for a world that hates and fears them before they decide enough is enough?
Magneto enemy again? Lol
Why are the victims always expected to be reasonable or forgiving while their abusers get slaps on the wrist? How many times are victims supposed to just endure until someone says "Enough"?
Magneto Was Right.
Magneto was trying to help mutants and protect them while Professor X was busy clapping Shiar cheeks 😂😂. For real though I understand both Xavier’s and Magneto’s POV.
You know, in a way, in the original series finale, by choosing to save Xavier instead of leading a mutant war, Magneto chose Xavier's life over Leeches and Gambits; that's why he's so angry.