The Most Controversial Parts of Every Pokemon Generation
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- Опубліковано 14 тра 2024
- In this video I describe the aspects of each generation and region of Pokemon that split the Pokemon community and spawn controversial opinions.
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@@shinyseasalt4404
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What is the ost at 10:08
I've learned a lot about my own biases from this video. Thanks for the excellent video.
After all but skipping the last two gens, I picked up sword and the dlc to play through. My only real gripe is that the gyms do feel basically like a cake walk. I'm sure the late game has separate challenges, but all in all when you can one shot the whole team it's not as epic as it should feel. This is likely because of the wild are (which I like), I just wish they tuned up the difficulty
"The controversy’s in gen 8 are"
*INHALES*
@@sinjinfinnplays9366
Taking a deep breath before listing something is a comedic effect meant to hint that there is a lot to said list, especially if its pertaining to a list of bad things. Gen 8 is riddled with problems regarding its story writing, game performance, game content, and straight up lies (oh look, they removed half the dex for balance purposes, then sold back all the horrendously overused, balance breaking meta legendary mons in DLCs which completely negates that excuse). Which is a shame because the gen 8 pokemon roster is fantastic and the characters are likable, but they're in a game that doesn't do them justice.
The list given didn't even mention things like Pokemon Home. Though I imagine it's easier to make the video if you don't have to include things not in the main games.
joshua kim I agree with everything, EXCEPT (yes, in ALL CAPS) about the pokemon roster being “fantastic”. Are you serious? This is literally the WORST part of Gen 8 for me... the pokemon themselves. There are like 7 or 8 good designs, everything else just look SO bad.
I waited to get Gen 8 until a b2g1 deal. I haven't played it much, but I might get the DLC if it's as good as people say... though other videos I've seen show otherwise.
Side note, please give us 6v6 unlimited time battles, Game Freak.. or at least a reason why you neglected to do it.
I just quit gen 8. Didn't wanna have buy a switch after buying so many DS's
_“Babies are controversial in general, but relatively harmless”_
Controversy is like moldy bread.Some pats of it are good and parts no so much.
Golden Jedi 😂
This much is true.
i mean,you are not wrong
As a jojo fan, I have to disagree
The most revolutionary experience about these games for me was playing X and Y for the first time and seeing that you can save in a literal second now instead of waiting what felt like 5 minutes in previous gens.
Saving in diamond and pearl be like
Especially when it said "Saving _a lot of data_ "
You can actually save instantaneously in all games up to gen 5 if you are using the right flash card
@@Vextrove Just insert your flashcard right into your GBA.
D/P/P would take like a full minute to save. Even if you *hadn't done a single thing since the last save*.
*This*
Considering Hoenn's real world inspiration is literally an archipelago within an archipelago, I think the water routes are fine. Of course I'm biased, though, since Hoenn was my first region and is still one of my favorites.
True, besides the whole point of these games was the duality between water and earth so i t makes sense that these games had much focus on water
The water routes would be fine if surfing weren't slower than the normal walk cycle.... in the game where we get a speed up button in the tutorial.
Don't get me wrong. For the most part Gen 3 is my favorite. But it's map was garbage until the remakes came along and made surfing and diving have a half decent speed.
to be honest, Hoenn never came off as especially watery compared to the first two gens when I played it as a kid...
for me i like it but i agree that it have too much water making my electric type pokemon over leveled xD
the problem with the water is not that it is there, but how its experienced. every water square is an encounter square, meaning you cant just swim across a path quickly when you want to get from one island to the other, you have to run in to pokemon allong the way, if you dont want to spend money on repels. plus theres a pretty small selection of actual pokemon you encounter, which makes the whole experience tedious. i love the asthetic and idea of hoenns water routes, but hated having to run into tentacools and pellipers every five seconds of surfing
For the sun and moon section: People aren't upset over all the cutscenes, they are upset over the fact that they are all unskipable.
Your character's expression doesn't help either
@@benthemother3fan884 God, I replayed Sun recently and was struck by the unintentional comedy of my character's dead stare in all the cutscenes.
And the fact that they look horrible and sterile, like they're doing the same "animations" they did when they were sprites and it doesn't translate well to 3D.
PREACH!
I remember when the demo came out and the blank state was first encountered. People joked about the protag being an actual psychopath.
I had no idea that people didn’t enjoy the legends in sinnoh. That made sinnoh so great and have a ton of post game content
On me i love garintinas demension i thought it was a nice concept
I absolutely hate them. Almost ruined the series to me. Nothing more dumb than being able to catch the literal God of the universe.
@@PrincipalSkinner3190 felt the same tbh when it released
@@PrincipalSkinner3190 you couldn’t?
My problem was with the event stuff with that hedgehog thing and didn't you have to transfer the regis to get access to regigigas?
I like gen 5 having mainly gen 5 mons, it encourages you to use Pokémon that are new and perhaps find new cool ones you wouldn’t have used if you could already use old mons.
Plus, you got the national dex after completeing the game..so you could still transfer your favs over to gen 5 afterwards. Its not the same as gen 8 where you litterally can not transfer certian mons at all which is the real bummer.
@@vianjelos Exactly, and Galar still had past generation Pokémon before the post game. I ended up only using TWO new Pokémon, which was my starter Rillaboom and Corviknight. The rest of the team was Pangoro, Skuntank, Manectric and my ace G-Max Blastoise from the Isle of Armor.
I gotta say on the other hand, Heart Gold was my first and favorite game. I fell in love with the 400 some pokemon in the dex, to go from that to Black where I recognized nothing, I just felt alienated. Just my opinion
People underrate how repayable and balanced gen 5 is because of the choice to only use new pokemon. Everytime I come back I can try out a totally new team and still have it work. Ask anyone who played gen 5 what they had on there team and its always different too. You don't get the usual I had an ampharos gen 2 or I had a luxray gen 4 and I honestly enjoy that not everyone has carbon copy teams.
Exactly, it could be bias since bw was my first pokemon game but I liked that there was an entire dex of brand new pokemon. Every other generation adds around 30 new pokemon and a lot of old pokemon. The majority being fan favorites to please the old fans. Unova has a variety of solid designs but I will admit that a trash heap, ice cream cone, and gears aren't the best designs. Especially the ice cream cone. Here's something to think about, garbodor isn't that different from muk and the klink line isn't that different from the magnemite line.
I love it that I was forced to explore new pokemon to build my team in Gen 5. It should be done more often. As much as I love having Gyarados as an auto include in my team as I did on other gens, I really enjoyed having to resort to use other mons that I have never used before.
Me too! In fact, ever since Gen 5, I made it a point to use nothing but new mons in each Gen moving forward. I honestly had trouble narrowing down my team to just six in each new game. That’s how many new mons I actually liked. 😁
You mean you didn’t think about Starmie?
I'm an old Gen 1er, and I adore Unova
@@nachodorito6955 I used Starmie on Gen 1 and 2 but went for Gyara all the way on 3 and 4
i understand your point, but for me personally, whenever i play through a region with only 150-170 or so pokemon, the region always feels a little empty. like, i'm always running into the same 10 pokemon over and over again. it can get quite stale after a while. thats why i love kalos, alolas and galars massive pokedexes. every area feels unique because the pokemon you encounter there are new
Gen 5’s “Use Gen 5 Pokémon” was something I disliked at first but then liked because it forced me to start looking at other Pokémon instead of me looking at a select few while continuing to use old Pokémon. The overuse of Old Pokémon Use is the reason why we have at least 4 different Charizards.
Same i like that its only new now
After people had told me how much better the older generation I didn't know which I liked more but the idea of a lot of the Pokemon in Gen 5 is that one of the head producer's took a trip to New York and wanted to style a Generation after urban things, hence the trash can and all the other objects
I agree. This is also the reason why i don't see the national dex controversy as a problem because that would defeat the point of GF introducing new mons when your more likely to use your old favourites without giving the new ones a chance
@@password4531 That's what I felt like during the Bring Back Nat Dex days. I really enjoyed using the Gen 8 Pokémon and almost went nuts when I learned about Dreepy and its evolutions.
@@squeebosh8525 Yeah people complain about the national dex problem like non of the gen 8 pokemon are good which i thought was weird since i actually really like most of them and the galarian forms was potential well used (in my opinion)
The worst of Gen 4 was THE SPEED. Since 2012 i'm still waiting for that Blissey to lost her HP bar.
any second now...
Check out Renegade Platinum
Dynamax Blissey with gen 4 hp drain
Yeah when i first did Red in HG/SS when i was 7 i had to wait a minunte for the damn pokemon to faint 😂😂
Blissey hold on a focus sash, Blissey use rest
Something that's always perplexed me about Pokemon fans, is their idea of "difficult". I can definitely understand certain battles like the Sinnoh Elite and Cynthia being actually "difficult" because of their team, but then there's the people who talk about EXP and difficulty. At the end of the day, if we drop EXP/remove EXP share, all that does is shave more time. This in no way makes the game harder or more difficult, it just adds in extra hours needed to pass certain objectives. Which, in the rest of the game industry, is an aspect often looked down on. "Time≠Difficulty"
couldn't agree more. Not to mention that Pokemon is still a childrens game in it's core. They can't just make them extremly dificult and hard to beat, just becouse the adult fans want that.
@@aniflowers1998 A fix for that would be built in hard-modes, also there are always challenges you can do. Like Nuzlocke and stuff (easier on ROMS tho).
BoTW had a normal mode and Master Mode.
Make the base game how you (the Dev) intent it to be, but add harsher scaling, trickier fights, entirely new rules, replace some old encounters with entirely different ones and now youve got a Hard-Mode many will play, especially more adult audiences.
@@tramachi7027 true, build in hard mode options could be an interesting idea. Though the comunity didn't really need the game devs to get those, as far as I know Nuzlocks where fan created. But yeah, intentional hard modes in game could be an interesting feature in the future.
I'll date myself here a little, but I played the handheld games from Gen 1's Yellow thru Gen 4's Diamond. Amongst those games, the only game I ever really whited out on was Gen 1 Yellow. The opponent's Pokemon are just a bit higher level and more difficult to beat, particularly through the first two badges (not to mention that game screws you a bit by not telling you that you'll pretty much need a mankey/nido with a fighting move for Brock). With Gen 2 through Gen 4, I was never really at risk of whiting out and the overall challenge seemed smaller (with the exception of Whitney's Miltank). I don't think its absolutely critical to keep a difficulty aspect to the game, but I do think it's good overall. It teaches kids lessons about losing, and lessons on how to strategize.
Hard Modes, Nuzlockes, Kaizos, and etc. are absolutely fantastic challenges, but I think it's good if a little bit of challenge is baked into the normal mode.
@@joshuabrittain5919 Agreed, but again, aside from I guess Brock, the only real struggle was a time investment, and that's not the kind of struggle I like in games like Pokemon. I've been playing Nexomon Extinction recently, and while I don't think Pokemon should be exactly like it, Nexomon does a good job of scaling the mons to always be at a decent degree of difficulty for you. If the enemy trainer has less Nexomons available to use, they're usually a higher level to make up for it. I think Pokemon has to improve their AI for the game to actually be harder, because a level scaling won't be enough to call it "difficult" imo, and I've never liked the whole "Train for 15 levels before your next gym" idea.
While I personally liked Mega Evolution and thought they not only made weak Pokemon viable, but also gave them a new spot light. I however feel the Regional Variants along with Regional Evolution is a way better method of achieving such things
It’s just a shame most of the variants were just gen one Pokémon for a while tho
I hate that the original versions are left in the dust tho. Like, it’s cool that Corsola got a regional variant and that variant got an evolution, but og corsola should have gotten an evolution as well :/
The new evolutions should have “normal” forms as well (as long as they are a new stage).
@@stormnightmare4378 You are absolutely right plus OG corsola getting an evolution would have been PERFECT for Alola, which would have lead really well into an alternative evolution in Sword/Shield. Especially bc it would have been cool to have an expansive 'coral reef' pokemon. Compared to Cursola's whole 'dead reef' vibe.
I mean, G-Corsola evolves because it DIES of sickness but yeah, i get your point...
That makes utterly no sense.
The only down part about Sinnoh that I found frustrating at the time was most of the Pokémon needed to be traded to evolve
And doing that is hard when you have no friends. (I'm insulting myself not you)
but I love trade evolutions
@@dimensionninja4929 you must have friends lucky you
The swimming in diamond and pearl was too slow but they fixed it in Platinum. Also Defog had no reason to exist.
same, I don’t have any friends
I miss the rival picking the starter that's stronger
Understandable, have a great day.
But also they made it somewhat more of a challenge than that sounds by giving them another Pokémon. Hau got Pichu/Pikachu/Raichu and Hop got Wooloo/Dubwool, if they didn't it would've been WAAAAAAAAAAYY worse.
@@yeetmaster75 They gave hop the Wooloo so that you could KO it first and level up, then get a super effective move against hop not making it move challenging, only easier.
Blue is laughing at us.
@@yeetmaster75 Hau's Raichu was tough, but Hop's Dubwool was just laughable.
@@DawnfireGalinndan It's something
I love the idea of ultrabeasts and their designs. The idea of parallel universes in pokemon was great especially with all the current movies and tv shows that include parallel timelines. Plus it gave the designers a chance to use different, more hardcore designs.
Ultrabeasts as a concept are super cool, and a lot of them have super alien and weird designs in a good way! My only issue is they're treated like legendarys when they're kinda supposed to be your everyday Pokemon, just from different dimensions. I feel toning down their stats would help a lot in that regard. Also the fact they all have the exact same ability is kinda lame :/
@@Fauna_CR oh they’re not pseudo legendaries no wonder they’re really common when I think about it they’re probably so powerful cause they’re from another dimension
I simultaneously like and hate Ultra beasts depending in which one you ask me about. Some are super cool looking like Naganadel and Nihilego. Some look like genuinely normal Pokémon designs like Nihilego, Guzzlord and Pheromosa. Some look a bit silly but still really cool like Buzzwolle and Xurkitree.
And then there are the over the top designed or just conceptually weird ones I wish to ignore lile Blacephalon, Celesteela, Kartana and Stakataka.
@@Deathmare235 I like how utterly insanely different blacephalon and some other UBs are is, it's not like it belongs in the same dimension anyway but that's just me
The way some of them just look ridiculous made me want to use them. Also, Necrozma was so awesome in that game.
Gen 5 actually made me like bug-types. 😆 Galvantula, Scolipede, Escavalier, Volcarona, Durant and Genesect made me consider using bugs on my team. Previously, the only bugs that got my attention were Venomoth, Scizor, Shedinja, and Vespiquen but I still never used them on my main team. 😅
Couldn't recall anything about that gen until this video where I realized most of my current teams of Pokémon came from that gen event he only bug pokemon i've considered using :D
I think Pokémon games need a hard mode. Just boost everything’s level, give the elite four 6 pokemon each. I just think it would be so much more fun with difficulty
And maybe in the later game, the Pokémon have items
Gen 5 actually had a hard mode (even though it was only in BW2 and was stupid to unlock)
I personally think that gyms should scale with average party level, and the player be given freedom to do whatever gyms in any order, but there should be gym leader level cap determined by which gym leaders you've defeated.
Yes. I really enjoyed playing Kaizo Emerald because it was an actual challenge. Gym leaders were varied and had cover moves for just about everything, held items, more level scaling, and just a strong challenge. It'd need dumbed done some, but I feel like at least the gym and gang leaders really need buffed nowadays--they're just too weak and sad.
Gen 5 does this. I love gen 5.
Surprised the introduction of fairy types wasn't on here, holy hell that was a shit storm.
Kinda weird considering dark and steel got introduced to specifically nerf a type too
I like the idea of fairy typing, I just personally hate the retyping of previously established Pokémon of decades prior
@@invertedname3099 I also disliked that at first, but I find now I just accept them as their new typing.
@@invertedname3099 I disliked it at first but it would make no sense for clefairy to not be a fairy type lol
If I'm being honest, the only Fairy type I would disagree with would be Marill and Azumarill. The rest of the Fairy types are fine by me.
I love every generation and I really wish Sun and Moon had handled the handholding a touch better because I'm one of those people who likes to play with each starter and try new things which means three playthroughs and the constant stopping DOES tend to get tedious. But the region is absolutely lovely to be in and look at. Loved the surfing mini game and it's music.
Gen 7 is far and away my favorite, it's not even close.
Add a cutscenes skip button and it's perfect, tbh.
Notice how, in gen 8, half of everything was either "this is terrible" or "this isn't the worst." Really indicates people's expectations for Game Freak now.
yeah exactly 😭 like i had an enjoyable experience yknow catching all the pokemon bc thats what you do in every game, not the absolute worst but man the bar was on the floor before legends of arceus and the D/P remakes dropped it even lower 😭
@@gucciroseii3517 at least legends was good one of the best in fact also do sinnoh remakes really suck
@@Deathmare235 yeah definately legends is so much more enjoyable than other pokemon games i played.i dont know how i'd ever get back into having to fight every single pokemon that pops up from the grass, legends has changed everything and they better not go back! LMAOOOO, atleast with scarlet and violet it looks like theyre gonna do the same thing :o
@@Deathmare235 i usually buy every single game that comes out even if i'd be a little dissapointed about it like when i bought shield but bd/sp... i have to skip.. gonna just borrow my little brother's copy just to get the shayman tho 😭no way im spending $60 for a shaymen
That's because the fandom are idiots, sword and shield was good. Not the best gen but had great ideas like league skin with professional sports with crowds cheering and wearing uniforms
I loved the water in hoenn LOL its one of my favorite regions bc of that, exploring it all for the first time was so exciting as a kid
I play through hoenn for the first time and I dislike it, because you have no reliable navigation. I am constantly looking where to go.
Also disliked that I needed 4 hm slaves to get through victory road.
The only thing that annoys me about water is the random encounters everywhere. To explore you either need around 1000 repels or spend around twice the amount of time you would. Thats the only thing I hate about the water lol
@Pyro Flare woah, toxic.
Pyro Flare wow you mad because he’s playing the newest gen
Bruh you don't need 4 hm slave,just catch 1 zizagoon.Problem solved
7:48 "Babies are controversial in general, but relatively harmless"
*Just like irl*
Who the hell would use a baby in battle
@@staringcorgi6475 cannon meat
Wait... You don't make babies to make them fight??
@@purpleenthusiast5814 I'm talking about in pokemon
Honestly, I think the return to Kanto is really cool, and it gives you the opportunity to have your team grow even stronger. Plus, if I remember correctly, it also sets you up to fight Red himself.
Sadly the level curve in that game makes it such a hassel.
I’m just really bad at Pokémon so I need the hand holding in let’s go eevee I’m lost on where to go next
@@RetroIsaac I never had a problem with the level curve because level doesn't matter so long as you have skill and I'm not saying that to sound pompous. I've been playing Pokemon for over 25 years now and especially in the earlier games I was beating the elite four 15 to 20 levels under level predominantly because of type matchups because like back in gen 1 the very first Pokemon you should always go for is a Nidoran(male) because of double kick and by time you leave Mount Moon you now have a NidoKing and you get to learn thrash which is absolutely devastating the only person you actually have to watch out for is Misty and Sabrina other than that you can basically just double kick your way through the entire game. But there are also other strategies that will allow you to defeat stronger Pokemon with weaker Pokemon.
I think sun and moon are so underrated very good games, all games are gonna have some issues but they are minor ones the story in sun and moon and the difficulty curve is pretty good the ultras just destroyed the main story but added some postgame, though the difficulty curve is worse in ultras imo, couse its not consistent there is just 1 hard fight which is absurd honestly
IGN
- gave ORAS 7.8 because "Too much water"
- has a red logo
In conclusion:
IGN IS TEAM MAGMA
OMG! What a big plot twitst! :)
But that’s JUST A THEORY
@@lwetho1519 Yeah, I know! everything can be related somehow.
So team magma is right?
IGN are terrible for opinions on Pokemon games.
I've never heard anyone complain about Platinum's distortion world. Like literally anyone...
I hate the distortion world.
My name is Cyrus and I am trapped here pls help
@@genericname2747 How's the chibi life treating ya?
@@343Films I'm short now
@@genericname2747 you were always short in my eyes.
they all quit a long time ago. If you read old threats people complained about every gen. Twitter is just making it look like a bigger deal.
I like the experience share because I don't have the time or effort to grind wild pokemon or the same battles over and over again just to level a pokemon up that should be higher in the first place
Honestly, the xp share isn’t the problem, the lack of Pokémon most trainers have and their Pokémon being scaled bad with the level gain is what kills the difficulty.
@@g.williams2047 exactly. Pokemon has never been great at scaling wild pokemon or trainers, or handling xp in general, with or without xp share. Having recently started playing Platinum for the first time after having played more recent gens the past few years as they came out including Y, SwSh & PLA, it made me realize how much I don't miss switch training and having to waste so many turns in a battle just to keep my team from being underleveled. but the real problem is GF giving us things like the standard level 5 starter, but then trainers and wild pokemon that are only like levels 2-5 for the next 10 areas and it ends up being such a tedious grind just to catch one and keep them on par with our starter. That pattern usually tends to continue throughout the games. It'd be nice if they could figure out a way to have at least wild pokemon to an extent scale to you or some sort of other compromise.
In most Pokémon games you can finish the league without ever grinding
Gen7 and 6 becomes way harder if you do
Bottom line: nostalgia smooths all edges and is most vulnerable to thorns. Everything we hate how will become things we look on fondly later and the newest changes always hurt the most.
Exactly!!
Nope. I hate Mr Mime after all these years and some new Pokemon are great. Ok., like I don't like few Gen 8 designs, but pls. And some are really cool, like Frosmoth, Urshifu, Zarude, Alcremie, Sirfetch'd, Obstagoon, Appletun, Drednaw, Eldegross,
I'm just mad I can't name my rival "poopy head" anymore
I named mine "some bitch" which is definitely not allowed lol
I named mine assface
I was dis dude, rival was dat dude. “Dis dude found a potion” “Dat dude wants to battle”
@@arsonsnail yeah think about it. Every time my rival wanted to battle the text read "some bitch wants to battle" isn't that worth it? Mocks my rival, and forms a complete sentence lol
@@Mr.Maritime I like yours too lol
People are saying Gen 1 is "too simplistic?"
They were the first games in the series. Were you expecting Dark Souls or something?
Not really about being aimple and morw about how relative to other rpg during the era, pokemon is VERY simple and basic.
@@zebimicio5204 It was primarily geared and marketed towards small children.
@@zebimicio5204 What was there that felt less simplistic at the time?
@@NecromancyForKids well for one rpgs like mother who basically did its own thing is more comolex than pokemon
Then we get into stucc like dq and shiz
It’s the region that felt simplistic, but I guess it was the first region. It was all just forest and plains. No desert or anything else. There was a few caves but it was still too simplistic.
In the topic of mega evolutions:
I personally like them, I feel like instead of z-moves and dynamax, we should have new megas instead.
But maybe that's just me
I think they should just commit to one and do it for all games. A new gimmick every game just cheapens them all.
This comment section reminds me why it hate this fandom and opinions in general. Everyone believes they are right and anyone that disagrees with them is wrong. And tons of people are nostalgia blind, either blindly praising or bashing something, it takes
Up too much of my mental energy😓
Sinnoh: has 10 legendaries
Galar: Are you challenging me?
🤣
To be fair: Sinnoh has 10 legendaries that were unique to that region. Galar? Has literally 2 legendaries. Zacian/Zamazenta have a decent story until you get to the end where it is literally rushed and half assed. Don’t even get me started on Eternatus. That might be the WORST legendary encounter, story, plot, cutscene, and setting of all time. It was so rushed and you’re just sitting there like “is that it? Really? Who tf even is this Pokémon? How was it made? Where did it come from? What did it do? Really?”
@@natecruz7114 i think they meant that galar has the most encounter made legendaries considering the crown tundra expansion
@@natecruz7114 eternatus lore Is kinda explained now
Also Calyrex Urshifu and the Two horses are now leggendaries
Wait a minute (counts in his head) I also count 10 legendaries in SwSh: Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Zarude (is he even a legendary?), the three birds which are just regional variants from kantonian legendaries, the two horses and Calyrex... And the bear cub evolving into the 2 armor bears but I’m not sure these are legendaries either. Ok that would make 13 legendaries but I think that would be pushing our definition of legendaries.
other gens: actual issue
Hoenn: 7.8/10 too much water
I don't see that many people that dislike that, most people just hate team magma and team aqua.
I have a question TrueGreen and pokeaimMD are same?
@@BURNITDOWNHindi33177 no they are very different. There is infact a video where both of them played a game against each other
It was a quiz game
@@sudiptodam7473 Oh then I think the Spanish accent makes them sound so similar 🤔
For Hoenn, I would've discussed fishing as well. It's so difficult to fish in that generation. Especially with Super Rod. I would also discuss the battery running dry making time based events more difficult to do. Which could mess up some Pokemon evolutions (such as feebas for example)
I personally am a huge gen 6 fan and I loved mega evos so much. But I really do agree that the amount of gen 1 mega evos was unreasonable. Almost half of the pokemon that can mega evolve are Gen 1 and I'm not a big fan of that.
I also really loved sword and shield, but the national dex will always hurt a little, especially since my absolute favorite pokemon still isn't in the game to this day. My meloetta is waiting in pokemon home until the day I can finally put her onto my favorite save file in sword 💔
Pokemon fans need to be more like you and not like little kids who whine about everything wrong with gamefreak.
Let’s just hope she can appear in gen 9…
@@juliodaguy She does!! Meloetta is in scarlet/violet game files and will be transferable once home comes out :)
“Babies are controversial in general.” you right, you right.
I laughed harder than I should've.
Owerford Amazington stay amazing bud
But relatively harmless, of course
babies are cute shut up
I hate babies.
"Babies are controversial"
Never thought I'd hear that today lol
I see you everywhere
@@torak_34 If i had a nickle for every time someone told me that lol
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Pokemon emerald version
ot ab I swear if I click on that and I get rickrolled or stickbugged
Edit: was literally Pokémon emerald version, I’m safe
They are controversial if youre pro choice
I’m so glad many people consider gen 5 to be the best. As someone who grew up with Black 2 it’s beyond satisfying to see the game with perhaps the most and best written lore in general get it’s acknowledgment
My personal favorite is 7 just because for ONCE, no gyms. That was such a fucking breath of fresh air.
Im surprised he didnt mention the day and night cycle introduction. I legitimately heard friends that complained they had to wait to certain times of day to capture some pokemon.
Do.. Do they not realize that you can just change the timezone on your device?
@@weafurry how can you do that on a gameboy, gameboy pocket or gameboy color?
If there is a way i can assure you nobody knew how back in 1999
@@Ayporque ahh that's fair I'm a filthy 2000s kid so
@@weafurry yea, emulators and virtual consoles was a far fetched dream back then
Yeah but you could set your clock
I have an idea of why Sinnoh lacks fire types. Due to the fact that Sinnoh is the coldest region, fire types could be rather rare.
Humans would be importing Fire types if that’s the case. It would make more sense to have more Fire types if you consider the relationship between humans and pokemon
@@sleeswaifus7024 you’re thinking too hard bro . I actually agree with the original commenter
@@sleeswaifus7024 You know that you can't just move an animal with a specific terrain conditions to somewhere that isn't compatible? Logically speaking yes, they can make fake biome in a building but that would take so many resources and money. But I don't know for sure, that's Game Freak's choices
Which is weird consider that ice is weak to fire. If there's a region that should have no fire type, it's Hoenn.
@@wangwang2211 Yeah, but fire types will melt the ice in Sinnoh.
I liked Sinnoh, but it definitely lacks in speed, fire, and more.
I mean it’s a very cold climate
@Existentialist Guy I liked team Galactic, their fashion was peak evil team fashion along with team plasma.
@@michaelrogers4206 that's true, but people also need to keep warm, and the only snowy city we have is Snowpoint City.
Daniel Cuevas I don’t think speed is an issue, there’s a few fast Pokemon to make up for the slow ones like staraptor and garchomp, unlike sun and moon which suffer from it worse.
The lack of fire types was bad though, unless you picked infernape you probably didn’t have a fire type which is so annoying
@@matthaeus5373 I'm not talking about pokemon stats. Rapidash is the only other option in the Diamond and Pearl, and it doesn't really get good moves until later.
I started with gen 5. It still feels strange to okay a new game and see a mix of pokemon from multiple generations. I like to have a fresh experience with each game
Gen 6 made EV grinding much easier with horde battles and boost to the EV items.
The ORAS remakes even had some mini games that you can play with your pokemon to train EVs, which is a fun alternatives to just fighting wild pokemon.
Just gonna say. Gen V, the 'no old Pokemon' bit? I LOVED that. Felt like a brand new game, to not just go to the same old ones I used to. Granted, I'm also a Bug-type maniac, and the number of Bugs in it made V one of my absolute favorites.
It was quantity over quality compared to gen 3 and 4
V arguably has the worst music besides VII and some of the worst designs as well. A few redeemable pokemon, but they're few and far between.
@@ATthemusician sorry, but I strongly disagree. Generation 5 music is among the best, having competition in only Platinum and SwSh. Those were experimenting vibes, such colorful sound pallet and unique atmosphere around each city, most of the OSTs are now classics. And probably the best legendary encounter music, I absolutely love it
Yes, for the first playthrough, gen 5 felt like the original Pokémon experience. Really enjoyed this part of it.
It was a reboot for the series as a whole. I don't know if anyone else had caught that.
I honestly found gen 5 having completely new Pokemon, and few old ones, made sense.
Regions are effectively different countries, and having their differences in culture reflected in their differences in Pokemon just feels right to me.
If it was just a few new Pokemon here and there, then the question of "why aren't these 9 other Pokemon in the other regions. They're similar enough, and there's apparently no issue in the ecosystem because of it"
I wonder if they should have introduced Regional Variants in Gen 5 instead. So instead of Throh and Sawk for example, we get Unovian Hitmonchan and Hitmonlee. A lot of the Pokemon in it are supposed to be (sort of) copies of original Gen 1 Pokemon.
@@CyberBlastoise yes!!
I feel like I’m one of the few Pokémon fans that’s been playing since blue and reds released that I’ve enjoyed every main series game and remakes thoroughly.
Oh nice, my clip at 1:43 of Goredon destroying Erika's team is in here :D
Haven't finished this video yet but definitely sharing, Pokemon has been a hot topic on my Discord lately with the resurgence of Nuzlockers and Gen 9 info
I forgot how much I miss the animated 2D sprites of Gen 5, the moving arms and glowing parts. 3D models are cool in HD, but the sprites will be missed
EXACTLY, my mind was blown when I saw Reshiram's tail glow red
The gen 5 sprites are infinitely more lifelike and personable than the 3D models. Switching from playing Sword to playing White was like...whoa. The pokémon are so much more realistic despite being pixelated 2D critters.
Funny thing is people hated those gorgeous sprites back in the day..
Thank god, people no longer think that
Personally I think some pokemon actually benefitted from the switch
I’m a little late to the Pokémon party. I played Gen 1 as a kid then mostly left it alone. Now that my nephew is the at the age wheee he is interested in it, we ended up starting with Gen 5 (because it’s the oldest yet most compatible with the bank and stuff).
So yeah, it’s 2021 and I’m farting around with Pokémon White, lol. Black 2 is next.
I honestly dont dislike any of the main series games. None are perfect, but that doesnt mean I cant enjoy them
I don't enjoy playing through gen 1 or sword and shield. But doesn't mean I can't appreciate certain aspects
I agree
I love you for noticing :)
I dont like completing the pokedex so i really dont care about the national dex to much work
Edit: but thats just in my opinion just take this comment with a grain of salt
@@nickz1265 yeah me neither and I never really transfer pokemon so it's not a big deal I have other problems with the game
The thing that irks me about Gen 2 the most is that in the entirety of 8 gyms, you face 4 Gen 2 Pokemon. And the first time you face one in a gym is the third badge (Whitney's infamous Miltank.) There were so many new Pokemon they could've slotted into those fights, but instead they give Morty two Haunter, or Claire three Dragonairs.
When it comes to gen 3, I’ve seen a comment somewhere saying that it made sense for to have water because it was during Nintendo’s big ocean/water faze. Zelda Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, and Pokémon Ruby/Sapphire.
The only thing I reallyyyyy hate is “Team Yell.” I want my cut n dry crime organizations lmao
Yeah but Team Skull had the same issue. Both embarrassing.
@@akumayoxiruma team skull wasnt even the actual team that was causing extreme danger besides selling other peoples pokemon, it was the aether foundation. team skull (at least to me) served as a false evil team that was silly and had a semi rivalry with the real one. team yell was a worse copy of team skull but team skull isnt really the main evil team in sun and moon.
Team Skull at least had the Aether foundation. Instead of just being "Juvenile delinquents led by No-longer-juvenile delinquent boss", they're "Juvenile deliquents working with a secretly corrupt organization", even if the connection between the two was...... totally pointless and not adequately explained.
Team Yell is literally just toxic sports fans who are being toxic for good reasons.
It doesn't help that Rose being the real bad guy was the third consecutive time that they pulled the "Famous and Influential figure whom everyone believes is benevolent but eccentric is secretly the villain" twist(With Lysandre, the creator of the holopad, turning out to be leader of team flare, Lusamine turning out to be working with team skull and also even less sane than she intitially appeared, and of course Rose), and the fourth consecutive time that they pulled the more general "Seemingly innocent person turns out to be the big bad" twist(With N having initially appeared to be some eccentric guy who agreed with team plasma's views but who was not actually a member, but turning out to be not just a member but the highest ranking member(in theory, at least. In practice Ghetsis was above him, as we know.)
Yeah I feel like team yell is just the “lol silly bad crime team” side of team skull when everyone who liked team skull was largely there for “disenfranchised young ppl who feel they can’t succeed in the primary life path turn to crime” part
Plasma was really good tho.
This video in a nutshell:
"Some people thought the new Pokémon game was shit, while others disagreed".
Thank u for saving me 15 minutes
Best part is this formula is Timeless
Gen 2
Hated on release
Gen 3
Hated on release
Gen 4
Hated on release
Gen 5
Hated on release
Gen 6 and onwards
The same pattern
The brevity here and also consequentially lack of any context is fascinating.
Followed by:
"Reality is probably somewhere in between"
Which reality? To whom? Either you like it or you don't, or you're ambivalent. There is no *reality* - like "actually you're wrong, you like that game". I personally don't enjoy playing gen 1 games because of the limited movesets and lack of physical and special split. But that doesn't that mean someone else who likes the challenge is wrong in liking them.
@@GnomesWorstEnemy if only you could have been there in 96 when it all took over the world lol
Love the content, Ron. Very happy I found your channel.
Coming from someone who has been playing Pokemon literally since red and blue were released I absolutely loved sword and shield. It isn't my favorite but I still enjoyed playing it. Since gym battles are a much bigger spectacle in this region I thought the flashy gigantimax gimick was fun and fitting especially with the absolutely HYPED music that was playing. I think Hop was a very good character who definitely wasn't one note. He had ups and downs throughout the whole game. His personality was upbeat but he still got down and showed signs of disappointment and stress. He was pretty nuanced. The wild area was a super fun change of pace and the raid dens were also a nice inclusion. I also 100% prefer the DLC additions to a 3rd game. I like having a new bit of story to play through than the typical same game with a few updates.
People have valid criticisms of the games for sure and I don't expect everyone to like them but I just really dislike when people bash on sword and shield and act as if they are trash and no one is allowed to like them. I thought they were good.
glad to hear someone else who is also a fan of the galar games.
I have been playing since Red, Blue, Yellow as well. My favorite game all time is Crystal. I absolutely enjoyed Sword and Shield. Imo, Sun/Moon were they worst games to date. I was so bored I couldn't beat them. Call me old, but I feel like a lot of the complaints listed are people being way to damn nitpicky over a children's video game and series.
I know the gen 7 cutscenes are hated by many people, but I actually really like them because I'm a sucker for characters and their development, which takes place in the cutscenes.
The thing about Sun and Moon I don't like is the hand holding, which is something entirely different.
Honestly if they would just allowed a skip button, they would have been much well received. So that on the second playthrough I can get to the parts I actually wanna play.
All it needed was a fast forward or skip button for people who are less keen or people who are on their second playthrough.
I’d be ok with the cutscenes if the main player character didn’t always have the same “I wasn’t listening” face and actually reacted along side everyone else.
I swear to god that player face was so freaking haunting with how inactive it was. Find out your friend you have ship teasing with was being abused by her mother, you don’t care at all. Find out that mother has cryogenically frozen numerous Pokémon to act as statues, don’t care. It’s horrifying.
@@rickyrns1059 It's even worse if you have glasses on.
Personally the biggest point of contention for me in general was the fact that they didn't utilize the Switch's touch screen at all, even as an optional feature. Pokemon camp is great and all, but it would be even better if the option to pet your pokemon was there for those who wanted it. It just feels like a massive missed opportunity, especially for people who like to snuggle and bond with their Pokemon.
Especially because touch screen integration had been a thing for the last 4 gens before it! Completely wasted opportunity.
I forgot the switch had a touch screen.
I know right! I think Stardew Valley is the only game I have that on switch that actually has it as a functional feature
I feel like they ignored the touch screen because they didn't want any features to be exclusive to handheld mode. I think it would have been neat to implement, but I understand why they didn't.
What is even worse is they already had good petting animations from gen 6 and 7 and just not put them in when you have the touch screen and the motion control...
Petting was a really nice addition from X and Y and completely scrapped for a useless fetching and useless camping. :/
Dude gen 5 having only gen 5 mons was so cool to me because it brought a new experience and unfamiliar territory I miss that feeling. X and Y is second to my most favorite game ever in the franchise
Unova was my very first region, and that linearity really helped me out as a kid- I was so lost!
You missed one thing in Galar:
Having to buy online mode
That's an issue with the switch as a whole
And $40 dlc
Human Garbage its 30 for both, egghead
Hortus Mortis It’s $40 CAD, so maybe they’re Canadian. Our exchange rate is atrocious despite being next-door neighbours.
@@OakenTome Oof that's rough buddy
Game freak: we made more new Pokémon for more variety
Fans: I don’t like that.
Game freak: we made less new Pokémon for more quality designs
Fans: I don’t like that.
Game freak: THEN WHAT DO YOU WANT??
Fans: I don't like that
Game freak: ...
Cutting the dex as an excuse to improve quality, did not work well, the plot was short, Pokemon attack animation ( not all of them) suck, and Pokemon appearing out of oblivion in wild areas, too much cut scenes with rival Hop, all these problems are not justifiable. That's why fans are disliking sword and shield
@@hargunbirsingh6459 They're not talking about SWSH, but rather Black and White and X and Y. B&W had lot of design, but a lot of people felt they weren't quality, X&Y had good quality designs, but some felt there weren't enough.
@@loreanth6746 oh my bad, and I agree with you on that
I mean... Pokémon has literally millions upon millions of fans around the world. And they all play for different reasons. Literally impossible to please everybody
One of my most cherished pokemon memories growing up was playing Gold on my Gameboy color. Being a young kid and the internet not being as it is now, being completely blindsided that the game wasn't over and going back to Kanto is an incredibly positive experience I hold very dear to my heart. Granted, this marks me as old and I do admit that my love for 2nd gen games attribute to this memory and I generally understand why it may be seen as tedious for sure. Personally looking back with playing every gen, my favorite is gen 3 and I actually really liked gen 5.
Alola is really special to me,, I played pokemon a bit as a kid but didn’t really ever get invested in any of them
I was around 16 I think when I played Alola and now am playing White 2 and I recently beat shield.
Rowlet is my absolute favorite pokemon even now, years later and I have so many plushies of them
Gen 5 was always my favorite ever, and the rustling grass mechanic was dope.
I'll fight you guys on that.
No need, i think the majority of people are in agreement
I did like that shit
So you like Gen 6 because it also had the rustling grass then
@@MariOmor1 it does? Im literally about halfway through pokemon X right now and i haven't seen any rustling grass at all 0_0
@@ashleycurzon6348 but it was in ORAS
Am I the only person who would love a game that goes back to an older gen, but *isn't* a remake? Like some changes to the land and culture, as well as a unique story, but maintains the charm and identity of the region.
I want that with Unova simply because i want to see more N. On the other hand, it's really cool how he had such a finite existence in the series
Like another black and white 2? That would be amazing! Gen 4 remakes have been wanted forever, but I just hope that Game Freak actually tries to make it better than the original gen 4.
I bet there are some good fanmade roms out there. Never played those myself tho. Maybe look into it ?
Honestly that would be so much nicer than remakes
@@zachrobinson8357 if my theory on when we get remakes of older games is correct, and so far it is, we will be getting those gen 4 remakes
Clarification: my theory is simple, but has held out thus far, basically a remake is made for the game that's generation number is half the current one, like how gen 2 gave us gen 1 remakes, gen 4 gave us gen 2 ones, and gen 6 gave us gen 3 remakes.
Not gonna lie. I got a couple hundred hours in pokemon shield. First time I ever found it worth finishing my dex and singlehandedly brought me back after not having played since gen 4. Beautiful game with great characters,pokemon and the healthiest competative scene I've ever experienced (although it does have a horrendous story). I donno if it's controversial but it has become my favourite game in the series as I've wanted proper 3d in a hand held pokemon game since colloseum was realized way back when. Basegame was great although dlc felt a bit lackluster, but I do like the roguelike dynamax cave in crown tundra.
And there ya have it, my unpopular opinion of the day.
6:23 Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in this and I'm so happy you brought this up.
I would gladly keep buying Pokémon games if only they gave us challenging fun and replayable post-game content. I hate that in recent games you spend all your time leveling pokémon and finding strategies for nothing in the end. The adventure just ends there with no replayability. But they gotta keep making money and pumping out more versions, so I'll just stick to gen 3 to 5 trying out different teams and strategies. There's plenty of pokémon and rom hacks to mess around with.
For some reason I was expecting the fact that in the newer gens the rival character now picks the starter that is WEAK to yours to be on here. I don't know if a lot of people are bothered by that but it's like: "You have the choice to pick the one with a type advantage to try and be better than me, why are you not doing that?"
Yes, the lack of evil/hatable rivals is a problem which is there since generation 3 in my opinion. But he wanted to point out only gen specific controversies. I thinks that's the reason it's not in there.
@@YZ-id6pj I’d argue Gen 3 doesn’t even have a true “rival” in the sense the other generations do. Keep in mind, I love May/Brendan (and Gen 3 overall), but they really *aren’t* your rival, so much as a friend you spar with occasionally.
@@Mr.Monacle Kinda the same as Barry in Gen 4 when you put it that way
@@devilix123987 Nah, Barry in gen 4 had the same goal as you; which is what I meant by May/Brendan aren’t your rivals in the traditional sense in Pokémon. May/Brendan don’t share your dream; they have their own goal, which while it is *technically true* you are ostensibly after, completing the Pokédex is still a secondary or even *tertiary* objective in Ruby/Sapphire, Emerald and Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire.
@@Mr.Monacle ahhh you're right, I misunderstood.
Gens 1-7: Minor nitpicks
Gen 8: Whoo boy, where do we start?
Yeah, I liked the game personally, but the animations, the graphics, and the plot were rushed. Even as someone who had played only Kanto and Hoenn before, I was upset at the lack of a national dex. That being said, I love how much personality the characters have, the fact that you battle in a tournament instead of an Elite Four, and the music.
@@ziimulhah3223 Speaking of graphics, look up the video called "You ever just play Sword/Shield and you see this happen."
I legit thought the thumbnail was zelda ocarina of time for the N64 at first. Even looking at the thumbnail up close, excluding the player character, it looks like ocarina of time.
@@Glitchy1988 oh... Arceus, thats worse than I thought.
@@ziimulhah3223 Hop (or whatever the Galar rival's name is (if you could call him a rival)) spent half the game being depressed, and Nintendo gave me chat dialogue options that didn't reassure Hop, or just made me the asshole. I say this crap but I do like Hop a little because he's somewhat upbeat, but if he never existed then I'd probably have a better time.
Oh right, Team Yell were walking smashable boulders, yes, they were that easy to defeat too.
@@scrittle they certainly weren't the traditional evil team grunts. If there's gonna be a Gen 9, I hope the evil team is actually evil this time.
Great vid. Learned some stuff.
One criticism, the background music is a bit too loud to hear you. I had to delisted to a few spots to get the info.
2nd and 3rd generation are my favorites, easy. I love that they let you have contests and grow berries and just really exist in the worlds. A slew of post game content and a genuine feel of mystery and adventure really mamd those 2 generations special to me
for x/y, how about how hog wild everyone went when it was discovered that we could finally sit on things?
aND THEN IT GOT TAKEN AWAY AGAIN ):(
@@snoutts ok tavros
that game was my first pokemon game ever, and I dont regret it bieng my first one either, I just want them to make another version of it, but harder
@@antoinerodriguezjr7890 same
@@antoinerodriguezjr7890 Same, I think X and Y is the Pokémon game most worthy of a remake. We could select our difficulty, and they could give the characters more personality.
WhY aRe ThE pOkEmOn iTeMs nOw!
Magnemite: just 2 magnets and a metal ball
Geodude: just a rock with arms
You forgot the best gen 1 pokemon, some eggs
NOW THERENARE LITERALLY WAY BETTER INANIMATE OBJECT POKÉMON AND PEOPLE STIKL COMPLAIN ABOUT THEM, SERIOUSLY WHAT THE HECH?!?!?!
voltorb: literally a poke ball
electrode: upside down poke ball lol
honestly i think people should just enjoy the games for what they are lol. none of them are perfect, and i think thats what makes them all charming
*convoluted items
Gen 5 onwards are overdesigned. The worst Gen 1 designs were at least just bland and simplistic, not outright stupid.
'Babies are controversial in general, but quite harmless' very true
I was expecting them to mention Jynx in the 1st generation. That was probably the most controversial element, but maybe in time people have forgotten about it.
Why is it controversial?
Given the fact you didn’t mention team yell, I think it’s pretty obvious what the fandom thinks about them, I mean there so un-intimidating they make team skull look like the Italian mob
Team yell was just dumb tbh. Like, SwSh could've done without em
Team Yell was like not team skull. Iirc they weren't even a team like that, they didn't... They didn't really do anything. Skull didn't either but they were the og evil team subverters and Guzma ended up being plot important anyway against Aether. I will say points in Yell's favor are that Piers and Marnie themselves are really cool characters and I admittedly find the female grunt design attractive lol
@@MagillanicaLouM I never said they were the same, I was just comparing on how evil/threatening there antics are, and yes, skull is more, and there just a biker gang
@@commanderblackheart5856 oh no I was saying they were pretty much the same lol. I see where the confusion is though, when it said they were "not team skull" I meant it sarcastically
@@MagillanicaLouM do you know how hard it is to give off a proper sense of sarcasm with only text?
As someone who personally loves all of the gens simply because it's Pokemon, a lot of these criticisms comes as news to me, personally.
Dexit is the only thing that really bothers me
My problem is galar and the dlc. The game was already 60 dollars, maybe not hard to make, but not a small amount, but the base game still ended up feeling unfinished without online, which I dont have. And then they added the dlc, and my only frustration is that it should of been in the base game.
@@methatswho6299 well Nintendo gives them about a year to make the game sadly
A lot of the things that were mentioned in this video are things that I got to experience firsthand, being old enough to remember getting a new copy of Red Version. I was pretty happy to hear him bring up the Gen 3 Nat Dex controversy, as that was the big thing back then (just like it is nowadays), with plenty of people complaining how the new Pokemon looked more like Digimon than Pokemon. Basically, everyone was unhappy about it.
@@methatswho6299 i feel the same
The music is a banger regardless of the generation, at least.
It's interesting to see what people took issue with in the generations, either at the time of release or in retrospect. I played every generation up sun/moon on release, and I remember being so disappointed with the pacing and trials system rather than gym battles I didn't even end up finishing the game. It looks like with sword/shield they went back to the older formula, and personally I really like the new animations, so when I inevitably get a switch I'll need to pick it up.
Gen 4's only major flaw imo was the fact that in the ds games doing anything at all in a battle would take you half a day. Even if you turned the battle animations off.
not just the battles, the whole game was so slow imo
Oh man i feel you. i really like Gen 4 but the battles, the way that hp goes down, the transitions, even catching pokemon(throwing pokeballs and such)
its like the game is in 0.5 speed.
i played it twice on the console, once on DS and the other one on 3DS thinking it would be faster, ever since if i want to replay any gen 4 game i just go with the emulator..
tfw you battle chansey/blissey
The severe lack of fire types and an almost total lack of good new water types are somewhat major flaws.
Gen 5 was my first region, and replaying when I’m older, I appreciate it even more.
My first was gen 4, I love gen 4 and 5. They are so fun and pretty nostalgic. I also really love gen 7, which to me just feels so fresh and is really great also
Same. It’s what got me into video games in the first place, and it’s the reason that I love Pokémon nowadays. Looking back, beating Pokémon black and black 2 where some of the biggest moments in my childhood that I can remember.
My first region was the first one and the last I've played is the 5th. 3rd gen was the best I've played
My first region was Gen 1 with Pokemon Blue, and I stopped at Gen 5. Gen 5 was a lot of fun and I played it on my phone with an emulator.
@@Rude_Boi I'm playing emerald, and platinum rn. It's majic.
What I think is interesting is how much my opinion on a Pokémon game is tied to where I was in life and the people around me at the time. Pearl might be my most beloved experience, purely because I had many friends with the game, it was the first time I was battling and trading with people throughout the journey, plus I remember all the rumors that people would talk about on the playground. One friend had Battle Revolution on the Wii and it made competing with each-other insanely fun.
Conversely, I moved in middle school right before gen 5 hit the scene. I remember playing through Black version and really not enjoying it at all. At the time, it was definitely not cool to like Pokémon in middle school, and since I was the new kid I basically kept my geeky side completely under the radar for a long time, meaning I didn't make any friends who played the game.
It was just such a weird feeling, I was in a completely new place surrounded by new people, I think what I wanted was some kind of familiar comfort when picking up my DS and playing Black version. Instead I was met with alien Pokémon I had no attachment to, as well as constant reminders that I was playing this experience on my own this time around (which just made me miss my friends back home even more). It just soured the experience so much, I didn't take the time to appreciate the music, the Pokémon, and the atmosphere of Unova. (until Black2 that is, which I loved).
Last note, I actually enjoyed Shield version a lot. My sister and her kids were living with us at the time it came out, and my nephew, who was just getting into pokemon after "Let's Go, Pikachu", bought sword. It was a really cool experience to play alongside him, and the little things that made him happy in the game ended up making me happy too. Not to mention, for the first time in my life, I went into the game blind. So (aside from ones I'd seen in trailers) any gen 8 Pokémon I found was a surprise, including if and how they evolved. But overall, just getting to help my nephew through the game was a really rewarding experience.
Basically what I'm hearing is you can't satisfy them all, which is going to be expected for any series. You can't hate Nintendo and Gamefreakl for trying new things each generation, being someone who grew up playing gens 1-3 as a kid, missed out on gens 4-7 and finally returned in gen 8, I LOVED seeing Dynamax and partaking in it! I have no complaints about the national dex, probably cause I had no pokemon to even bring into my copy of Sword, but I really enjoy my return in gen 8 cause of how much has changed.
edit: I definitely agree with the people suggesting that a DLC feature for pokemon is definitely a step up than replaying the entire game in a 3rd version, cause that... can be frustrating.
The contests are literally one of the main reasons I still play Emerald. I love them, they are my fave part.
Yeah i miss hoenn region franchise
The fact that people's biggest criticism of them is that they weren't *required* to beat the game shows how weak criticism of them actually is.
I didnt like Emerald beacuse too many double battles, S and R are fine
@@stefanoferraiuolo525 but you can avoid many double battles (tranforming them into single battle)
10:26 Exactly! People say that Unova's map is too "linear", but there are so many hidden places to explore! We can't say the same thing for Sword/Shield, sadly..
I expected there to be a big quality curve in developing a large 3D map environment for GF. Isle of Armor showed major progress in their environment designs and it would seem Crown Tundra will expand on those improvements but I honestly don't expect map quality to really impress me at least until Gen 9.
I think gen 5 has a good balance between exploration and story progression.
I do really like Unova's different tangent paths you could take, but I still feel like its story felt kinda railroad-y and didn't leave too much room to explore the region outside of small one-off areas like the desert resort or the dive areas in BW2. A part of me also misses how you could challenge gym leaders out of order in gens 1 and 2 and I kinda miss that
Sword and Shield bad, you may now like my comment.
Tikki you gotta admit that it also has a pretty large end game as well
Gen 5:ugh too many new pokemon
Gen 6: ugh not enough pokemon
I’ve been considering grabbing sword and shield. I just got my switch and just recently finished playing arceus and I adored it. Is the game worth it? I like being able to see the wild Pokémon rampaging, so the wild area has always interested me but what are your guys’ thoughts
I personally had a lot of fun playing shield version several times and bought the dlc. I would say the wild area in those games are a rough and messier version of the wild area in PLA. A lot of small Pokémon appear in the grass and sometimes you can’t even see them until you run into it. Stronger level pokemon will just run up to you, where as PLA they’re actually dangerous and will attack you.
"some people thought legendaries were overdesigned in gen 4"
Wooo boy, if people think giratina is overdesigned, I'd like to see how those people reacted to eternatis's debut
Giratina is a celestial being. It cannot be easy in terms of design.
Giratina overdesigned? I would gladly show SMT's satan to these people who think that. And that thing is not even considered overdesigned.
Eternatus is still rad as hell even if I don't know wtf I'm looking at. The only legendaries I have issues with really are the gen5 trik because,, they're all.. d e e r things? Eh
Yeah, I can't wait to see those peoples faces. Sheesh, they're gonna be suprised
HAVE THEY NOT SEEN 100% ZYGARD LIKE THATS OVER DESIGN.
My biggest issue with gen 8 was that I finished it and went "Wait, that's it?" There's just so little to do, and they honestly squandered the open world gimmick so bad. Like seriously, how is it that you pitch an open world and still make the game feel linear? They shoulda connected all the cities to the wild area and let you challenge gyms in any order. Throw in some energy for side quests and I woulda ate this stuff up. As it stands, I completed a living dex just cause there was nothing else TO do. I've played through it a few times cause there's just no substance to make me keep on a save file.
Yep completely agree, that's why I really enjoy gen 1-4, they still had adventure and freedom, we lost that in gen 5 imo and never really got it back. B/W were incredibly linear and throughout S/M and S/S(not quite so badly) you couldn't take a single step without the game making sure you weren't dumb enough to forget where you're going. As a kid not knowing where you were going sometimes was more fun, you'd end up finding stuff because of it
@@David-bj8ri I kinda like them giving me nudges on where to go, but not every 3 steps. Trust your audience can figure out where to go or at the very least follow the giant flag you stuck to the map (which I think is a good idea tbh. I've forgotten where I was supposed to be going before and been stuck cause of it.)
To me, it's more the lack of content. There's literally 30 minutes of post game. That's it. Even XY had more stuff to do. And then there were side quests you could sometimes find and legendary Pokemon you could actually find by looking around. (My cousin showing me giratina was amazing)
Put the legend back in legendary Pokemon. Put the adventure back into our journey's. Let people miss content for the simple reason that discovering it after the fact and finally clearing something that blocked you is one of the greatest parts of these games. I regret borrowing a friend's level 100s to beat the champion in my first every run cause I took that moment from myself. At least I'm the one who did that though.
@@MercuryA2000 I completely agree, I think that the Internet doesn't help now either, so easy to look up where to go to save time which takes away from the experience and adventure. I've been overly critical of game freak ever since gen 6 remakes didn't have the battle frontier, I was honestly so disappointed in that, the generation that first introduced it being remade but not having that included? Not really acceptable nor was their reasoning, I just want all the Pokemon fans out there including myself to actually get decent quality games, as we haven't really had one in a while all things considered
@@David-bj8ri True, but that means they should be trying to add MORE not get rid of the rest. Give us enough side quests that don't do any more than world build and people won't usually bother googling them.
Yea, that's really soft of them tbh. It's called a remake not a recut. There's no reason to do that except to say f you to people who want a challenge.
I wonder what gamefreak would do if people started making Pokemon esque games that were good enough to hit their sales. If someone else gave players the things Pokemon has been dropping because honestly, they're taking us for granted.
THAT idea would have done an open-world pokemon game justice. Also, bring back ride Pokémon, but allow one to just choose whatever pokemon to ride.
I smiled at being reminded of every version. I tend to appreciate the content and games we get, usually any franchise when I see there are improvements that would be difficult… I’m an artist and went to school for game design. I’ve also been alive through the before internet times so…. 🤷🏼♀️
I will always remember back in gen 1 looking through pokemon fan sites under cheats and rumors and finding all these supposed hidden pokemon that were further evolutions of other pokemon: anthrax, Rainer, charcoal, which were the evolutions of snorlax, blastoise and charizard respectively. Can't remember what venasaur's was. Imagine my surprise when I tried out the steps detailed on those sites and suddenly my charizard evolved. It was a glitched out mess, but it actually went through the entire evolution animation. I really wish I could find those old sites again and comb through the other fake "secrets" that I've forgotten.
I just realised that im a really casual player. I just ”like” most parts of every generation and everything that you brought up here, i dont really have a strong opinion
Same, except for the national dex in SnS. That was just too much for me. Losing my pokémon, some of whom are older than 16 by now, was just too much.
And that game freak lied to us and didnt care about these games
Yes exactly
@@Ray25689 bro they do
@@Ray25689 well they do care. Up until gen 5 tho.
@@apoo.1611 so you mean they *did* care.
I think u can count gen 6 in aswell. They modeled all those pokémon in 3D back then, just for this game. I think X and Y sucked, but they put a huge amount work in this game.
And nowadays they even have the models, but only use some of them.
3:18 Kingler following you sideways helps show the love and care that went into hg and ss
It also moves like that in Let's Go and SWSH...
@@yeetmaster75 yeah but that was older tech. It's much more simpler to make those animations now compared to back then.
@@blackearl7891 rotating a png is difficult?
Gen 5 was the first in Played and i love it, especially how difficult it was, i played with 5 lvl 100s and still had to clutch sometimes.
I just wanna say thanks for not talking super slow. I watch in 1.25 by default but am always pleasantly surprised when i find a video that sounds better in 1
“Ultra Beasts are also controversial, there are some that find them weirdly designed”
UB’s are alien Pokemon things from another dimension, I think that’s kinda the point
That's the same explanation he gave
I remember people having a similar issue with Eternatus as well saying that it didn't look like a pokemon but I just sat there think "isn't that the point. It came from space, it's was designed to be weird looking
@@pikadawnshowbiz7968 yeah but that one was a let down
Ikr.
Pokemon fans these days act like spoiled babies and if they don't get what they want, they fucking freak out.
@@thatfourkinnie6077 why not be whiney when game freak has been slackin'.
I realized, especially with gen 5, people miss it when it’s gone. They’ve been noticing gen 5’s actually really good when we have kalos and alola to compare it to. I liked gen 6 and 7 just fine, but they’re generations with a lot of negative reception
Yup, you officially have learned the truth behind it all. People don’t like new things. When they get something new, they feel uncomfortable with it because they were used to the old thing. When they first implemented Mega Evolutions, people complained about them sucking because some were broken. When Z-Moves came out, people called them stupid anime finisher moves. Hell, even letting your Pokémon was complained about, because some creeps in denial were “annoyed” that they could touch certain areas on their Pokémon, despite touching that area being completely voluntary on their part in the same way we could physically touch our relatives or even children in those areas for no good reason, but obviously no normal or decent person will think about doing that. But once Game Freak removed them, people were immediately complaining “But Mawile needed its Mega” or “Omni-boost was the best thing about Kommo-o” or even “why can’t we physically touch our Pokémon, it doesn’t make sense”. People just love to complain, and when you make the main games for the most popular franchise in the world, there are gonna be a lot of people who will complain. That doesn’t change that there are flaws, it’s just that most people don’t pay attention to the flaws of an old thing if there is a new thing to complain about. I can guarantee that once Sword and Shield are 2 gens or more old, there will be people saying that they were the best gen and that all of the others sucked, completely ignoring all of the flaws they previously complained about.
I love gen 6 a lot, though I recognize its shortcomings. Gen 6 is best enjoyed if you only use new pokemon, as the limitations help to make the game at least a bit more interesting. Running through Kalos leaving no stone unturned with my Chesnaught, Vivillion, Aurorus, Clawitzer, Florges, and Linoone for HMs was the most fun I've had in a Pokemon game since Colo and Gale.
I regret not appreciating Gen 5 as much back then. However the Pokémon in that game were alright. Not bad, but at the same time some of their designs weren’t all that great imo
@@rickyrns1059
You're forgetting something, all the stuff you said was only brought up in the community by minorities, only SOME people complained about mega evolutions, only SOME people complained about z moves and only SOME people complained about Pokemon-Amie
it's only because the Gens after Gen 5 were even worse, so Gen 5 looks better by comparison, not on its own
This can all be summed up to
“People cant accept every region isnt gonna have every single pokemon and that they are all different, and they also cant accept that its not a game for adults”