Please help me out by liking the video! If you want early access to new content, consider becoming a member. Note: ALWAYS leave yourself plenty of room to expand. You can build up to 12 Coal generators now (and you should), but soon you can scale this up to 24 (or more) with very little effort. Plan accordingly if you want things to look organized!
I personally play the game at a slow pace, and aside from the initial rush to get to coal power for the sake of automation, I am not concerned with pumping out vast quantities of of items and racing to get the ship parts launched, whether it takes it 2 or 20 hours to finish a phase is of no consequence to me. My advice to others who are new to the game and enjoy a similar play-style, use the "waiting time" of ship part production to do some exploring. Mercer spheres, Somersloops, and especially hard drives quickly become very important commodities. Hard drives unlock alternate recipes, which can be critical in creating production lines that can be more efficient, less resource intensive, and/or more suited to what resources you have available. The loot you get from crash sites is also much more valuable in the early game, allowing you to do MAM research with items that you can not otherwise create yourself yet.
Good stuff. I am glad you mentioned about using Noodle piping. I also will use Horizontal to Vertical as I have never had a problem with those if used in the right way. But I have seen problems often with Auto and Auto2. Typical when using floor holes which I always do so there is that.
Those are pretty much the only two modes for pipes I use as well. I'm sure there's a use case for the auto modes, but they seem least consistent to me.
Appreciate the time and effort in putting this series together. I found this coal setup dead easy, with zero flow problems, unlike the 3:8 setups. I would like to see how it is expanded. Not sure if that is in a later video. Liked!
I find the early coal plant fluctuations are usually the water taking forever to equalize, rather than the coal. Some patience is required, either way :)
If you use the 2:1 ratio for the pumps/generators that fixes the balancing completely. Personally I just leave the pumps like that, but if you want you can start them up - fill the generators - and then just underclock them to rebalance to the perfect ratio. ...Says the guy who spent WAY too much time making his 8:3 ratio builds work......
@@TheDutchActuary Ive tried a few rebuilds on the 8:3 coal plants and always have water issues, even after letting everything fill up before starting. Ruin my efficiency by throwing in a 4th extractor to make it work before I do something else
@@SkepticalWise theres a simple fix for that. 2 extractors fill the first 4-5 coal plants, still connected to all 8 with one pipe. but the 3. extractor needs its own separate pipe that you tap in to the first pipe after the 4. or 5. coal plant. that tops off the first pipe at its end and equalizes everything. flow mechanic, water is able to flow backwards in its pipe as well and consumers lower the pressure.
@@TheDutchActuary I realized my biggest issue was that I was using piping manifolds above my connection point - this leads to a lot of strange flow conditions, and uneven distribution.
@@stjinks Yeah the water flows are... weird in this game. Realistic maybe (not really sure about that honestly) but I found a lot of things get easier if you have inputs coming from about rather than below *or* you buffer the system to full before you turn it on.
That's it! I must have turned them to passive in a previous playthrough, with that setting carrying over to the new one. Feels weird we can just turn them on an off at liberty, but honestly - I've been yeeted off cliffs enough for a lifetime ;)
Once we get to that stage, sure! Keep in mind that Blueprints in this game are fairly limited (although you can fit a lot of things in them if you REALLY try)
I struggle with balancing the coal. The first two coal generators have 100 coal spare but the last two have always max. 1 coal... how can I balance this out?
This happens because the first few are ' buffering ' a stack of coal. It takes a while for this to sort itself out. Easy way to speed this up: shut the generators off for a while (there is an 'off' button if you click on the building) and let the back generators fill up. Then then them on again and they *should* keep running smoothly, as long as you're bringing in enough coal.
Does coal have any other uses apart from power generation? After watching your previous video, I discovered some coal nodes in land, then set up a few miners and a biomass burner, laying a conveyor belt all the way back to my base in readiness. Then... I watched this video 😔 I should have watched it first, now I know you also need water I will be copying your coal power plants.
@@TheDutchActuary Good to know thanks. As said, I should've watched this video first, but I was having great fun exploring while my machines were over producing iron and copper components. I've made more than a few rookie mistakes but have had great fun doing it.
I know right?! But if you place a few pillars as support, not only does it look realistic, I actually think it looks a lot BETTER than trying to build on the floor (after all, who would build their factory in the middle of rock formations in real life? That's one landslide away from having no more factory)
I like your videos TDA but i feel like a satisfactory masterclass is much less useful than like for example the dyson sphere program ones because of how the game has some very different playstylea
I turned the fauna to passive in the game options (initially by accident, aparantly I did so in my last playthrough months ago and forgot the option existed). If you get tired of being under assault, turning them passive won't affect anything (including achievements) but WILL make your game much more peaceful ;)
I felt it was valuable information, but you're right - it was not coal power related. Duly noted, will keep it in mind for future episodes. I'll likely split the 'miscellaneous' information into a seperate video next time.
It was valuable information. It's not just coal video, it's the next step in this playthrough including the context of "things to pay attention to" in the context of previous videos in series.
@@TheDutchActuary coal power is always a hughe roadblock for new players. they realy need a very detailed video for this, so much that could go wrong. and for that reason, sticking to the classic 8:3 setup would be the best for a tutorial. at least in my opinion.
@@FalconDS9 The thing is, 8:3 actually makes the coal MORE complicated than 8:4 (or specifically, 4:2) as the pipe setup becomes *much* easier. Straight dead-end lines actually work!
Please help me out by liking the video! If you want early access to new content, consider becoming a member.
Note: ALWAYS leave yourself plenty of room to expand. You can build up to 12 Coal generators now (and you should), but soon you can scale this up to 24 (or more) with very little effort. Plan accordingly if you want things to look organized!
I personally play the game at a slow pace, and aside from the initial rush to get to coal power for the sake of automation, I am not concerned with pumping out vast quantities of of items and racing to get the ship parts launched, whether it takes it 2 or 20 hours to finish a phase is of no consequence to me. My advice to others who are new to the game and enjoy a similar play-style, use the "waiting time" of ship part production to do some exploring. Mercer spheres, Somersloops, and especially hard drives quickly become very important commodities. Hard drives unlock alternate recipes, which can be critical in creating production lines that can be more efficient, less resource intensive, and/or more suited to what resources you have available. The loot you get from crash sites is also much more valuable in the early game, allowing you to do MAM research with items that you can not otherwise create yourself yet.
15:00 Just underclock the two water extractors to 75%. Then they produce exactly the right amount of water and do it for less power per liter.
Man, I'm loving this series, you have a new subscriber. Great job, and thanks for your work.
Thank you so much!
Good stuff. I am glad you mentioned about using Noodle piping. I also will use Horizontal to Vertical as I have never had a problem with those if used in the right way. But I have seen problems often with Auto and Auto2. Typical when using floor holes which I always do so there is that.
Those are pretty much the only two modes for pipes I use as well. I'm sure there's a use case for the auto modes, but they seem least consistent to me.
Appreciate the time and effort in putting this series together. I found this coal setup dead easy, with zero flow problems, unlike the 3:8 setups. I would like to see how it is expanded. Not sure if that is in a later video. Liked!
Yep it is!
@@TheDutchActuary which video?
@@scottsusslin718 ua-cam.com/video/vgIaw-zhhFA/v-deo.html (the coal upgrade starts around 17 min)
Solve my power issues!?
My dear TDA, this will fuel my ambitions until the power issues are even bigger.
Hahaha I know I always go like ' OMG so much power, this'll last me for a long time! '
Halfway into the next build "@#$ I need more power!"
We are producing about 4 per min now..... you just leave game running on over night =D
I find the early coal plant fluctuations are usually the water taking forever to equalize, rather than the coal.
Some patience is required, either way :)
If you use the 2:1 ratio for the pumps/generators that fixes the balancing completely. Personally I just leave the pumps like that, but if you want you can start them up - fill the generators - and then just underclock them to rebalance to the perfect ratio.
...Says the guy who spent WAY too much time making his 8:3 ratio builds work......
@@TheDutchActuary Ive tried a few rebuilds on the 8:3 coal plants and always have water issues, even after letting everything fill up before starting. Ruin my efficiency by throwing in a 4th extractor to make it work before I do something else
@@SkepticalWise theres a simple fix for that. 2 extractors fill the first 4-5 coal plants, still connected to all 8 with one pipe. but the 3. extractor needs its own separate pipe that you tap in to the first pipe after the 4. or 5. coal plant. that tops off the first pipe at its end and equalizes everything. flow mechanic, water is able to flow backwards in its pipe as well and consumers lower the pressure.
@@TheDutchActuary I realized my biggest issue was that I was using piping manifolds above my connection point - this leads to a lot of strange flow conditions, and uneven distribution.
@@stjinks Yeah the water flows are... weird in this game. Realistic maybe (not really sure about that honestly) but I found a lot of things get easier if you have inputs coming from about rather than below *or* you buffer the system to full before you turn it on.
Mobs agression is not a part of Advanced gsme settings, its in settings menu
Just came to say the same. It's definitely turned off, last episode the flying crabs from the Hatcher weren't attacking him either.
That's it! I must have turned them to passive in a previous playthrough, with that setting carrying over to the new one.
Feels weird we can just turn them on an off at liberty, but honestly - I've been yeeted off cliffs enough for a lifetime ;)
Awesome video!
Thank you!
love your stuff
Can you please add episode numbers to the title?
this is really a master class from a master but hope you inclde bp as possible pls we would love to use these too
Once we get to that stage, sure! Keep in mind that Blueprints in this game are fairly limited (although you can fit a lot of things in them if you REALLY try)
@@TheDutchActuary yeah indeed bt with mk2 and mk3 yo will get great gang or many factory in 1 click so that will help alot ty for all the work bro
I struggle with balancing the coal. The first two coal generators have 100 coal spare but the last two have always max. 1 coal... how can I balance this out?
This happens because the first few are ' buffering ' a stack of coal. It takes a while for this to sort itself out.
Easy way to speed this up: shut the generators off for a while (there is an 'off' button if you click on the building) and let the back generators fill up. Then then them on again and they *should* keep running smoothly, as long as you're bringing in enough coal.
I always build short walls as I have a habit of walking backwards over the edge.
Hahaha I thought that was just me. I couldn't survive without a parachute either ;)
Does coal have any other uses apart from power generation?
After watching your previous video, I discovered some coal nodes in land, then set up a few miners and a biomass burner, laying a conveyor belt all the way back to my base in readiness. Then... I watched this video 😔
I should have watched it first, now I know you also need water I will be copying your coal power plants.
oh yes, you'll need coal to make steel, but there's also quite a few other recipes (some optional) that utilize coal!
@@TheDutchActuary Good to know thanks.
As said, I should've watched this video first, but I was having great fun exploring while my machines were over producing iron and copper components. I've made more than a few rookie mistakes but have had great fun doing it.
My brain won't allow me to build floating structures
I know right?! But if you place a few pillars as support, not only does it look realistic, I actually think it looks a lot BETTER than trying to build on the floor (after all, who would build their factory in the middle of rock formations in real life? That's one landslide away from having no more factory)
Did you handcraft the reinforced plates and rotors?
Nope, those came out of the previous build (although I did make a few of them by hand to speed things up I believe, but not more than a few dozen)
@@TheDutchActuary Cool! Enjoying the series :)
I like your videos TDA but i feel like a satisfactory masterclass is much less useful than like for example the dyson sphere program ones because of how the game has some very different playstylea
i dont understand why the fauna isnt attacking you?, its all trying to end me, even the lil bee things
I turned the fauna to passive in the game options (initially by accident, aparantly I did so in my last playthrough months ago and forgot the option existed).
If you get tired of being under assault, turning them passive won't affect anything (including achievements) but WILL make your game much more peaceful ;)
@@TheDutchActuary thats even stranger, i only have god mode, they still attack me but i take no damage. i see no option for passive fauna
The default setting is now retaliate, only attacks if attacked
@@sndsiwriteI just got the game and I get attacked by things so idk about that
Half the video is off-topic + the part where you actually build the thing is explained very superficially
Got to 5 mins in the video, wondered when we were getting to the actual topic. Saw this comment and decided to give up.
highly inefficient. do 3 in a row, could be facing each of 3 row. feed with manifold. profit
Not sure I follow - What makes 3 rows more efficient than 3 blocks?
Very poorly explained video, 80% fluff
I feel like there's a lot of extraneous, non coal power plant related fluff.
Extremely inefficient video.
I felt it was valuable information, but you're right - it was not coal power related. Duly noted, will keep it in mind for future episodes. I'll likely split the 'miscellaneous' information into a seperate video next time.
It was valuable information. It's not just coal video, it's the next step in this playthrough including the context of "things to pay attention to" in the context of previous videos in series.
@@TheDutchActuary coal power is always a hughe roadblock for new players. they realy need a very detailed video for this, so much that could go wrong. and for that reason, sticking to the classic 8:3 setup would be the best for a tutorial. at least in my opinion.
@@FalconDS9 The thing is, 8:3 actually makes the coal MORE complicated than 8:4 (or specifically, 4:2) as the pipe setup becomes *much* easier. Straight dead-end lines actually work!