I think we are starting to see the wave of notices. I think it will be interesting to see how the go about scheduling and executing it. That's a lot of engines! Good luck on your journey!
I have done oil analysis for 40 years. Silver should be zero, unless the spectrum line Blackstone is using has an overlap from another metal. Hopefully Toyota wasn't stupid and used silver in the bearing material.
I have been trying tofind out for sure what materials are used in the bearings. I don't think it's from bearing wear but until I get a definitive answer on what is used, it's hard to say. I am curious as to what the next analysis will show.
Heck yeah! Hope you make it as well. I think most are fine. I did just send in my next oil sample. Curious to see if there is any changes. Also did get them to test oil life left since it is right at 5k miles. Curious how that will come out
@jamesavakian4977 I have owned Chevys and Fords before. When it comes to half ton trucks, in real life scenarios the Tundra performs better than any of them. It tows trailers better than any other. Sure it probably gets the worst fuel mileage out of all but I didn't buy a truck for fuel mileage.
May I ask what 0W-20 brand oil you are using? You want the viscosity at 100c to be closer to 10. Yours is fairly low at 6.47. I use Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 in my Toyota and my Blackstone analysis comes back consistently around 8-to-9.
@jamesplotkin4674 I will have to find out from the dealer. I am still under Toyota Care so they have been doing all of my oil changes. I want to say they use Mobil but I need to verify
Would you please look oon the door frame sticker and see the date it was made? My son also has a 2023 and it was made in the third week of February, 2023. Just curious. He hasn't received a recall notice yet but may get one.
How do you feel about your Truck? I would be worried that it is really a design flaw and not just manufacturing problem? So a new endine just pushes it down the road? Thanks
Honestly I still love it. Would I be hesitant to buy again? Possibly but would buy another one anyway but it would be one not part of the recall. I don't think it's a design flaw as I would think it would be happening to more vehicles. We are seeing trucks well over 100k miles and they haven't had a issue. Unfortunately we still have not been updated with the full remedy other than what was posted on Toyota news page.
The debris probably isn't the lose stuff floating around. It's half-ass machining parts breaking off the inside of the galleys later on. When the pieces decide to break off from the sloppy work is what decides when your engine blows. It'll be interesting if Toyota goes beyond the warranty. They don't stand behind all their lemons. I found that out with my 2020 Camry I bought new. It was the worst car I've ever owned. Toyota saying all the problems were normal wasn't a fix for that piece of junk.
Man I hate that! I am only on my second Toyota and both have been Tundras. Can't complain with either one. I haven't had good luck with Chevys and the Ford I bought I liked it until I started to tow with it. Worst towing truck I have had.
@@LivingwithCable I hope Toyota comes to their senses and starts putting a proven V8 and transmission back in the Tundra. Maybe even bring back the old Tacoma with dependable parts. I couldn't believe when I read about the standard transmission breaking apart. Seems like everything Toyota is making is falling apart now. Toyota has joined the ranks of a overpriced Ford, Chevy and Dodge.
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw I do wish they still had the 5.7. I can only hope to have the luck out of this one as my old 5.7. Although this recall is pretty major, haha. Unfortunately I believe it's due to the workforce we have. People don't have pride and care anymore and the "it's not my job" mentality.
@@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Toyota is not gonna go backwards. (Lessons learn about the engine. I’m sure they’re gonna take a new approach on these machine parts and hopefully wash out the block real good or whatever the protocol is to do so.)
@@Lance-b2l Toyota started going backwards in 2018 with the Camry. It was one of the most complained about cars on the road. Toyota wouldn't try to fix that crappy 8-speed until they were sued. And now they put it in the Tacoma, made in Mexico, and having the same transmission problems. On top of that, the standard transmission in the Tacoma has pieces breaking off and drive train components snapping under light loads. Toyota is defiantly going backwards while pushing the accelerator.
@herlindorocha8938 no it will stay at the same mileage as you took it in. I am sure there will be a note of some sort showing the mileage when the engine was swapped on carfax. I am surprised they haven't recalled the hybrids. I have a feeling they may only recall the regular ones because of "safety" but only do the hybrids if they decide to let go. I hope not but you can never really know
I hate to see all those tundras being butchered. Those cars will never be the same after they ripp everything out and then reinstall. Toyota screwed up big time on this one
I am still torn on the situation, crap happens and at least they are owning up to it plus I will get a new engine which is nice. The only negative can be on the dealers and how good the techs are.
I’m mad at Toyota. I have a hybrid and it wasn’t included in the recall and the hybrid engines have been failing. I am told the hybrid engine is the same and made on the same line in the same factory. My value has massive decreased. Since the hybrid is not in the recall when they fail they are just getting a shirt block and not a complete new engine with turbos. This blows. This is my 4th Toyota and it will be my last.
Yeah, that is pretty crappy to not include the hybrids. Heck, they still have not given us any update on recall since the end of May. Luckily I just turned over 38k miles no issues
I have never seen an oil analysis report. That is awesome.
It's definitely interesting. Pretty neat how then can analyze all those different particles from a small sample of oil
I have a 23 Platinum tundra with about the same mileage. No issues yet .Just got my notice to swap out for a brand new engine!!
I think we are starting to see the wave of notices. I think it will be interesting to see how the go about scheduling and executing it. That's a lot of engines! Good luck on your journey!
@@LivingwithCable Good luck for your sake I really hope its not a design issue....
@@jeffray2869 you and me both! Thank you
I have done oil analysis for 40 years. Silver should be zero, unless the spectrum line Blackstone is using has an overlap from another metal. Hopefully Toyota wasn't stupid and used silver in the bearing material.
I have been trying tofind out for sure what materials are used in the bearings. I don't think it's from bearing wear but until I get a definitive answer on what is used, it's hard to say. I am curious as to what the next analysis will show.
@@wburtney5154 well I did get back my latest sample and silver went up again.
Nice video! Thanks for sharing this info and your experience. I appreciate your perspective. 👍
@c.a.r.s.carsandrelevantspecs thank you and you are welcome!
Cut the filter and check the pleats,the oil samples you sent are useless unless done daily.
I will cut it when I do the oil change. I already sent another sample in that has around 4500 miles on the oil
I have 120k kms on my 22 SR . Still sounds good . I hope mine makes it until new engine .
Heck yeah! Hope you make it as well. I think most are fine. I did just send in my next oil sample. Curious to see if there is any changes. Also did get them to test oil life left since it is right at 5k miles. Curious how that will come out
@LivingwithCable I change mine at 8k km which I believe is 5k miles . I use mobile 1 synthetic with toyota filter .
@@LivingwithCable 120k km is 75k miles
Been waiting on this! It’s like the movie premier
Waiting for this
Wait no longer! Haha
Why would anyone waste their money on a Tundra. You can buy a real truck for less
@@jamesavakian4977 what do you consider a real truck?
@jamesavakian4977 I have owned Chevys and Fords before. When it comes to half ton trucks, in real life scenarios the Tundra performs better than any of them. It tows trailers better than any other. Sure it probably gets the worst fuel mileage out of all but I didn't buy a truck for fuel mileage.
May I ask what 0W-20 brand oil you are using? You want the viscosity at 100c to be closer to 10. Yours is fairly low at 6.47. I use Pennzoil Platinum 0W-20 in my Toyota and my Blackstone analysis comes back consistently around 8-to-9.
@jamesplotkin4674 I will have to find out from the dealer. I am still under Toyota Care so they have been doing all of my oil changes. I want to say they use Mobil but I need to verify
@@LivingwithCable if we start at the dealership, I was told they use mobile one even the car care nut guy says the same thing mobile one
I have a2022 no problems 30.000 just wind noise 😫
I have been lucky, I don't seem to have wind noise
Would you please look oon the door frame sticker and see the date it was made? My son also has a 2023 and it was made in the third week of February, 2023. Just curious. He hasn't received a recall notice yet but may get one.
As soon as I get back in just a bit I will let you know. I want to say it was made October 2022 but not certain.
October 2022 is the build
@@LivingwithCable Thank you!
@@garymeyer3294 you are welcome!
How do you feel about your Truck? I would be worried that it is really a design flaw and not just manufacturing problem? So a new endine just pushes it down the road? Thanks
Honestly I still love it. Would I be hesitant to buy again? Possibly but would buy another one anyway but it would be one not part of the recall. I don't think it's a design flaw as I would think it would be happening to more vehicles. We are seeing trucks well over 100k miles and they haven't had a issue. Unfortunately we still have not been updated with the full remedy other than what was posted on Toyota news page.
@@LivingwithCable Yes I really had my heat set on a new Tundra or Tacoma but I'm hesitant now....I'll stick with my 2021 Tacoma for now...LOL
I completely understand that
The failure mode on these engines is the front main bearing AFAIK. Your bearing metals are very very low, so this suggests your engine is OK.
They’re doing a recall go for the long block now you start all over With the mileage part on your engine
The debris probably isn't the lose stuff floating around. It's half-ass machining parts breaking off the inside of the galleys later on. When the pieces decide to break off from the sloppy work is what decides when your engine blows. It'll be interesting if Toyota goes beyond the warranty. They don't stand behind all their lemons. I found that out with my 2020 Camry I bought new. It was the worst car I've ever owned. Toyota saying all the problems were normal wasn't a fix for that piece of junk.
Man I hate that! I am only on my second Toyota and both have been Tundras. Can't complain with either one. I haven't had good luck with Chevys and the Ford I bought I liked it until I started to tow with it. Worst towing truck I have had.
@@LivingwithCable I hope Toyota comes to their senses and starts putting a proven V8 and transmission back in the Tundra. Maybe even bring back the old Tacoma with dependable parts. I couldn't believe when I read about the standard transmission breaking apart. Seems like everything Toyota is making is falling apart now. Toyota has joined the ranks of a overpriced Ford, Chevy and Dodge.
@OnlyMeee-ie3dw I do wish they still had the 5.7. I can only hope to have the luck out of this one as my old 5.7. Although this recall is pretty major, haha.
Unfortunately I believe it's due to the workforce we have. People don't have pride and care anymore and the "it's not my job" mentality.
@@OnlyMeee-ie3dw Toyota is not gonna go backwards. (Lessons learn about the engine. I’m sure they’re gonna take a new approach on these machine parts and hopefully wash out the block real good or whatever the protocol is to do so.)
@@Lance-b2l Toyota started going backwards in 2018 with the Camry. It was one of the most complained about cars on the road. Toyota wouldn't try to fix that crappy 8-speed until they were sued. And now they put it in the Tacoma, made in Mexico, and having the same transmission problems. On top of that, the standard transmission in the Tacoma has pieces breaking off and drive train components snapping under light loads. Toyota is defiantly going backwards while pushing the accelerator.
It's a recall. Exercise your recall right if the engine ever blows up...until then drive it.
The tests get expensive
And really proves nothing.
What happens the the odometer after the engine is replaced? I’d want a new one!
Unfortunately it will still show the old mileage as everything else on the vehicle will be that old.
Does it go back to zero?. Well I own a 2023 Hybrid Platinum Tundra I don’t know what to expect?! It’s the same engine.
@herlindorocha8938 no it will stay at the same mileage as you took it in. I am sure there will be a note of some sort showing the mileage when the engine was swapped on carfax.
I am surprised they haven't recalled the hybrids. I have a feeling they may only recall the regular ones because of "safety" but only do the hybrids if they decide to let go. I hope not but you can never really know
you will be fine ❤ 100% guaranteed
I would drive the original engine till it blows, then get the new one. It’s a safety recall so they will honor it forever
I hope that's what they will allow me to do!
Nice truck I have the same truck 😂 I have a 22 model I’m running Mobil 1 0w30 engine they replace my engine 😮
I honestly love the truck. I am kinda waiting for it to go kaboom. I am getting close to the mileage most seem to blow. Until then, gonna keep on
It’s a sad day for Toyota when owners have to do this
Mever buy the first yr
I would say that but I bought a 2007 Tundra new and that truck was great. I would still have it if I hadn't hit a deer and totalled it.
Who would buy it with a motor even replaced
Luckily, I don't care about resale as I drive them till they are virtually useless
I mean if they replace it, it should last for 400k so why not.
Unless it's a design flaw, and they use the same type of engine, then another failure is eminent.
@@randomstuff2607which is the case
Toyota could’ve done the right thing by building a quality truck in the first place.
If it break after warranty, it will cost 30 plus to fix it , don't worry you got money
I hate to see all those tundras being butchered. Those cars will never be the same after they ripp everything out and then reinstall. Toyota screwed up big time on this one
I am still torn on the situation, crap happens and at least they are owning up to it plus I will get a new engine which is nice. The only negative can be on the dealers and how good the techs are.
Toyota V6 Twin Turbo is overrated. No V6 right now will beat a V8. Common sense.
The only thing that is marginally better is fuel consumption. It does have more power but I do think reliability is going to be a issue
It’s just a piece of junk get rid of it
I’m mad at Toyota. I have a hybrid and it wasn’t included in the recall and the hybrid engines have been failing. I am told the hybrid engine is the same and made on the same line in the same factory. My value has massive decreased. Since the hybrid is not in the recall when they fail they are just getting a shirt block and not a complete new engine with turbos. This blows. This is my 4th Toyota and it will be my last.
Yeah, that is pretty crappy to not include the hybrids. Heck, they still have not given us any update on recall since the end of May. Luckily I just turned over 38k miles no issues