Jocko Podcast 432: What Leads to Conflicts Between Groups of People? And What Leads to Cooperation?

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    Intergroup Conflict and Cooperation. The Robbers Cave Experiment. What Leads to Conflicts Between Groups of People?
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  • @MegaShonix
    @MegaShonix Місяць тому +19

    Can we have Eric Deming if possible?

  • @siyelgeorge2689
    @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому +5

    This is one of the most relevent podcasts Iv seen in a long time. Thank you for diving below the surface and getting to the most fundamental part of all these issues that have people disoriented and divided.Your leading conversations that need to be built upon. thank you

  • @mickfisher2351
    @mickfisher2351 Місяць тому +12

    Eric Deming? Please respond.

  • @marcoleonel-vi3xq
    @marcoleonel-vi3xq Місяць тому +6

    When I heard the term “reactive devaluation” a stadium size light bulb went on in my head. Love this

    • @rainking50
      @rainking50 Місяць тому

      Can you say more? What impacted you and how are you making sense of it? Thank you.

  • @darnellwashington7253
    @darnellwashington7253 Місяць тому +5

    Lets get Eric Deming on the podcast!

  • @mrbigw100
    @mrbigw100 Місяць тому +23

    Jocko can we get John Stryker Meyer on joe Rogan while he’s still with us to talk about Sog he said he doesn’t want to ask you because you’ve done so much for him but I think the stories of MacVSog need to be told on JRE

    • @The_Red_Off_Road
      @The_Red_Off_Road Місяць тому

      He’s already been on Jockos show, and he’s already been on countless podcasts. I’m not sure that there is anything new to find in his story.
      Go check out the episode he did on Cleared Hot.

    • @mrbigw100
      @mrbigw100 Місяць тому +2

      @@The_Red_Off_Road I know but his and the other story’s of MacVSog deserve to be widely know and I think Joe would love hearing it on a show

    • @The_Red_Off_Road
      @The_Red_Off_Road Місяць тому +1

      @@mrbigw100 it’s already been told. He wrote a book. I’m sure you have a lot of respect for JSM, but let him rest easy. He’s a busy guy doing a lot of work for the MiA’s and he doesn’t want the spotlight.
      His story has already been told. Now, if you want his perspective on current events or another situation, yes, I’d watch that. But another podcast with him telling the same story again? I wouldn’t watch it.
      Mostly because I don’t need to listen to another man’s story to feel good about my life. Get out and go live life. There is more to the world than listening to a Vietnam vet tell his story for the 15-thousandth, 9-hundred and seventy-eighth time.

    • @mrbigw100
      @mrbigw100 Місяць тому +2

      @@The_Red_Off_Road will agree to disagree mate he does want to go on the JRE just dosent know how to not only to tell his story’s but the other men of MacVSog as well and I’m sure Joe would enjoy the conversation

    • @tristenn5939
      @tristenn5939 Місяць тому +1

      ​@mrbigw100 That would be pretty interesting. Maybe one day.

  • @Hacktheplanet_
    @Hacktheplanet_ Місяць тому +4

    This really effected me in a positive way, especially the part about not following those who are making all your decisions and stay loyal to your family "team"

  • @danielchitown9339
    @danielchitown9339 Місяць тому +6

    Task Force Bruiser praying on innocent lives. Skeletons are slowly coming out Jocko.

  • @mindsetmotivation9124
    @mindsetmotivation9124 Місяць тому +7

    Jocko, i never would have known about BJJ if i hadn't found about your channel. Decided to do Muay Thai instead either way. Thank you

    • @martianrays
      @martianrays Місяць тому

      You probably don't know about jocko either
      ua-cam.com/video/28Pks9i-CKk/v-deo.html

  • @GeoForReal
    @GeoForReal Місяць тому +1

    Jocko, can we please have Tu Lam on here? He’s a green beret with an incredible story.

  • @mindsetmotivation9124
    @mindsetmotivation9124 Місяць тому +2

    Lets get it. 0430 am baby! 💪

  • @pbdm43
    @pbdm43 Місяць тому +5

    Good morning gentleman.

  • @kevin6385
    @kevin6385 Місяць тому +3

    Why aren't you dealing with the accusations against you? Nice to hear a response

  • @mmichaelsmith619
    @mmichaelsmith619 Місяць тому +3

    Eric Deming is basically calling you and your boys from TU Bruiser murderers. You and Leif gonna ignore him? “Deming talkin shit? Good…” 😂

  • @DCresident123
    @DCresident123 Місяць тому +1

    Will Jocko ever talk about the criticisms of his leadership in Afghan? Like sending your guys to do daylight raids and exposing them for no reason, etc

  • @tomasr64
    @tomasr64 Місяць тому +1

    I have a lifetime of experiences of this subject, and have a lot of information and insight about how adults try and often fail with camp life. Many people want to form a life not based on rules and rank, have freedom, but to be successful, each individual has to have good hard and soft skills before any camp living begins. An incredible amount of communication is needed before any work takes place. Which often does not happen and soon conflict begins regardless of good intentions, somebody's toes gets stepped on. I don't have a book but do have a bunch of notes and story to share to anyone interested of how to have a greater chance of success with a "tribe".

    • @siyelgeorge2689
      @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

      People in our society are so incompetant when it comes to communication.

  • @blakezimmerman9004
    @blakezimmerman9004 Місяць тому

    Thanks Jocko. I first saw these theories play out at my first job, as a supervisor with a major corporation, in 1980’s. I was both a safety team and quality team leader apart from regular duties. In both teams I instinctively brought the teams together and said we have the right team to Team of the year. I lead the meetings by facilitating ideas and guiding the best ideas to the top. Everyone in the teams felt empowered, but what I did not see coming was how team members would talk about other Safety and Quality Teams. It had gone from healthy competition to trash talking the competitor teams. I found this intriguing at the time because members on my teams would have great friends on other teams, but would still talk badly of other teams. Your show today reminded me how my teams reacted as the study you covered today. Final note: had I held safety and quality team meetings just to pass time and not actually work towards goals, then I’m sure my teams would have shown little interest in other team members. Final observation: once one team leader & team made it clear that all team members were striving to be team of the year this fueled all the other team leaders and members to strive to prove their team was better than all others.
    Experience results in fostering different and improved attitudes: As I matured as a leader I took time to remind each team that although we are striving to be the best Safety or Quality team the purpose here is not to prove we are better then other teams, but actually to bring the best ideas with detailed cost/benefit analysis, and action plans to implement so to improve Safety or Quality for everyone in our Distribution Center and Company wide. In summary one leader can shape and layout goals for a group fostering healthy competition, but underscoring that each team is striving to improve things for everyone. In fact when our team had a great idea, but not the budget to implement, we would pitch the idea to another team to do a joint project combining the two budgets.

  • @peartree8338
    @peartree8338 Місяць тому +1

    Didn't think Jocko was "a bad one". Damn.
    New light on Task Force Bruiser.
    May all the gold he scraped from the 🔱 leave his hands.

    • @peartree8338
      @peartree8338 Місяць тому

      ua-cam.com/video/28Pks9i-CKk/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @theundergroundlairofthesqu9261
    @theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 Місяць тому

    Echo was part of a longitudinal study to see just how much and how long a child could cruise.

  • @madatarchives8725
    @madatarchives8725 Місяць тому +2

    It's basic human instinct not to trust each other there is no changing it no matter how "technical" we are or advanced. It's not a mystery by any means it's understanding there is differences can't help how you feel.

  • @tecchguy01
    @tecchguy01 Місяць тому

    Have you guys considered releasing a poster showcasing the rules mentioned in your books? It would be helpful to have a quick daily reminder of what they are.

  • @siyelgeorge2689
    @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

    de-centalized command-yesss

  • @nagaestepuping
    @nagaestepuping Місяць тому +1

    This was a great one thanks! Cccccchhhhhhheeeeeeeecccckkkkkkkk

  • @PifchoBG
    @PifchoBG Місяць тому

    This was helpfull beyong belief !

  • @MyFavoriteHolly
    @MyFavoriteHolly Місяць тому +1

    Band of the ✋!!!!

  • @siyelgeorge2689
    @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

    Get beyond the blame!!! beyond blaming others, or blaming ourselves. We gotta focus on responsibility/accountability.

  • @snowflakeca2079
    @snowflakeca2079 Місяць тому

    To exercise the Buddhist path of
    “Letting go”
    Is the way to indict freedom & acceptance of others…
    That will allow humans to disregard the need/ “ACCEPTANCE” of
    CONTROL
    of others…
    And TRULY living free…

  • @rafaelalas7679
    @rafaelalas7679 Місяць тому +1

    Awesome

  • @LenaRaphael-io8mj
    @LenaRaphael-io8mj Місяць тому +2

    can someone please add timestamps

  • @jeremybrimmer1990
    @jeremybrimmer1990 Місяць тому

    A house divided always falls

  • @Blake4625kHz
    @Blake4625kHz Місяць тому

    Listening to my nephew who is a high schooler he was talking to us about some kid he didn’t like on his team. He said “you know when you just don’t like somebody and you don’t know why? Like I have no reason to hate him, but I don’t know, I really just don’t like him” 😂 that’s the whole sum of it sometimes lol

  • @csx6910
    @csx6910 Місяць тому

    Similarities and differences.

  • @codymarestein6538
    @codymarestein6538 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you Jocko

  • @lwelk273
    @lwelk273 Місяць тому +2

    Sleep Walking....hell, when I was in the Navy - had a seamen receive a Dear John letter from his girl....she sent him an invitation to her wedding to another guy. We had to split up the petty officers available and put him on a suicide watch for weeks......he made it through sitting in the Persian Gulf. Best J & EC

  • @siyelgeorge2689
    @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

    It seems that things have to collapse completely before we realize that what unites us is more inspiring that our group identities would have us believe. Let’s prove me wrong!

  • @opaca512
    @opaca512 Місяць тому

    Integrity First

  • @kayfish7621
    @kayfish7621 Місяць тому

    Can't help but imagine how this experiment would have gone if they had chosen first-generation Italian/American Catholics, instead. There would be competitions for the best meatballs, best bread, and of course, who made their Nonna's lasagna the best. You'd also have competitions to see who laid the best tile, and concrete driveways. Lastly, lets not forget about baseball. Us Italian/Americans made baseball great.

  • @45122
    @45122 Місяць тому

    What happened to the Dak Savage, Candy Apple Sniper JP Series, and Afterburner Orange D Berke series of energy drinks? I see the flavors still exist(ish).

  • @FayAlexGG
    @FayAlexGG Місяць тому

    Misunderstanding due to a lack of communication...usually intentionally

  • @siyelgeorge2689
    @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

    Th does seem to be a deliberate agenda to keep people divided further and further from eachother. Don’t take the bait! Yes lets build reciprical relationships

  • @zenthegeneral
    @zenthegeneral Місяць тому

    The "Robber's Cave Experiment". Classical, very well known psychology/sociology study
    Filled with interesting ideas about conflict, harmony and leadership
    I always thought that in a world where everyone was "the same race", we'd still find conflict anyways
    Now imagine trying to reconcile the near infinite differences that actually exist between groups of people
    Seems the best way to unite people is a common goal or a common enemy, rather than logical communication and emotional connection. Kinda sad, but that's humans for you lol

  • @Howard34567
    @Howard34567 Місяць тому

    Why is there sunflower oil in the protein shakes?

  • @nicksilver_music
    @nicksilver_music Місяць тому

    great research for the cult Im starting lol

  • @maijaalbenesius1774
    @maijaalbenesius1774 Місяць тому

    Very "Lord Of The Flies" (also from 1954)...

    • @siyelgeorge2689
      @siyelgeorge2689 Місяць тому

      what a profound story. I just recently watched the movie with my son

  • @seanpatrickrichards5593
    @seanpatrickrichards5593 Місяць тому +1

    13:55 Van Damm "Double Impact" :)

  • @snowflakeca2079
    @snowflakeca2079 Місяць тому

    My commentary is not meant as a slight or denigration to YOU personally.
    It’s meant as a statement of fact outside of your world of expertise and service, where you may not likely find agreement or semblance to.
    Just the same as I will never know what it’s like to be at an APEX LEVEL of combat/ defending a Nation on a moment to moment level.
    Thank you for your podcast.
    🇺🇸

  • @user-yb5dl5wi1w
    @user-yb5dl5wi1w Місяць тому

    Hey, Jocko I found your book called extreme ownership from google for free. Do I have your permission to print it out and read. Because it's free. Shouldn't I pay for it

  • @nexusobserve
    @nexusobserve Місяць тому

    global air cylinder wheels. If you want to interview my dad, the inventor I have a nuemann mic ready to go

  • @arthurcitron9774
    @arthurcitron9774 Місяць тому

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @not4sale916
    @not4sale916 Місяць тому

    If planet earth was apart of the Star Wars events they’d used Jockos DNA for the clone army and he’d train the grand army of the republic

  • @josephmcandrew7937
    @josephmcandrew7937 Місяць тому

    Wait... I might have mis understood but is the jocko molk I got on Amazon fake?

    • @mfwags22
      @mfwags22 Місяць тому +1

      I wondered, too, but think they meant the clothes.

    • @CodexTerminal
      @CodexTerminal Місяць тому

      good

  • @rodwheeler6438
    @rodwheeler6438 Місяць тому

    It was 47 not 48 but anyway

  • @roninsoniii6670
    @roninsoniii6670 Місяць тому

    Useful, however this only cements the fact that there are bad acters.

  • @dcraexon134
    @dcraexon134 Місяць тому +2

    I’m not going to leave a comment

    • @blakezimmerman9004
      @blakezimmerman9004 Місяць тому +1

      Intriguing Dude, I’m thinking what kind of personality leaves a comment in the “comment” section stating: I’m not going to leave a comment. At this hour two quick thoughts. You’re the classic Antagonist or you’e exhibiting your Surreal sense of humor. 😊

  • @AbdulGulleid
    @AbdulGulleid Місяць тому

    🇵🇸

  • @snowflakeca2079
    @snowflakeca2079 Місяць тому

    What leads to conflict between groups of people are
    VERY SIMPLE:
    1) Religion
    2) Government/ State/ Military Propaganda
    That’s pretty much it.

  • @deadarmd
    @deadarmd Місяць тому

    Anyone who listens to this podcast can hear he IS replying to accusatory info

  • @SixStringsAndBeyond
    @SixStringsAndBeyond Місяць тому +5

    Jocko you are being called out by a former green beret and former seal. Word is getting out bud. The dream is over dude

  • @navvetcoperator973
    @navvetcoperator973 Місяць тому +6

    Jocko, you should have Eric Deming and other SEALs who know the truth about Task Force Bruiser, including some of the marine leadership, and maybe some of the Goldstar families. I was 21 years active duty Tactical Helo Aircrewman and Search and Rescue Swimmer, retired then served 16 years as a Police Officer.
    Now I’m ashamed that I ever listen to your podcast and I will be unsubscribing for sure and for certain.
    You need to clear your conscience and start telling the truth and have some folks on your podcast that do the same.

  • @seanpatrickrichards5593
    @seanpatrickrichards5593 Місяць тому +1

    1:10:54 Jocko's pretty passionately telling people they shouldnt passionately tell people what to do cause they cant influence people :? :)

  • @texasted73
    @texasted73 Місяць тому

    Somebody's been leaving comments that aren't from me. I apologize I tried to delete the comments.

  • @LuisAlvarez-vv4ls
    @LuisAlvarez-vv4ls Місяць тому

    Would this apply to the migrate crisis or isbthat troĵan horse sailed?