Jocko Podcast 247 w/ John Stryker Meyer W.T.F. What it Takes to Beat The Odds. Wiskey Tango Foxtrot.
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0:00:00 - Opening
0:05:14 - Lynne Black's "Wiskey Tango Foxtrot" with Tilt.
3:10:55 - Final thoughts and take-aways.
3:22:10 - How to stay on THE PATH.
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3:39:24 - Closing Gratitude.
Come on HBO you gave us'' Band of Brothers'' let's get the Vietnam equivalent.
Mark Bowden's amazing book Hue 1968 was all set for an fx miniseries a couple years ago, but it never happened, I am still hoping though...
God! A HBO miniseries on MACV-SOG or John "TILT" Meyer would be gold
Patrick Barrett unfortunately they will never do it HBO is ran by Communist
Not Vietnam but "Pacific" was even more amazing than Band of Brothers imo. It takes place in Japan and for me it was one of the best series I've ever watched. I have a feeling you've already seen it but just thought I'd mention it in case you haven't.
There's a great documentary called 'The Vietnam War' released in 2017 though, I strongly recommend to anyone interested in that time period or the war in general. 10 episodes, about 90min each, very thorough and really well made
I've never clicked so fast to watch a podcast. The previous SOG episodes were amazing!
This is the funniest Joe Rogan video ever!!
😆 ua-cam.com/video/kbWGdmGNae8/v-deo.html
Agreed
Agreed also, all of the SOG podcast's are excellent, I have gotten Across the fence, and I am going to get John's second book soon. An now that I know about Whiskey Tango Foxtrot I will get it also. I actually found Across the fence in a book store in the little town I live in.
Jocko needs Nick Brokhausen on.
jeffreylc I’ll second that man, We few and Whispers in the tall grass are fucking insane.
John Stryker Meyer and all the ol "Nam boy's" are still my favorite podcasts. 👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Same...more.please joko
For sure. These guys were my heroes growing up.
This is the funniest Joe Rogan video ever!!
😆 ua-cam.com/video/kbWGdmGNae8/v-deo.html 😂
I am a military book junkie, I try to read everything, especially about Vietnam, such a fascinating war. The enemy was determined and battles hardened and they were masters of ingenuity and guerilla warfare. SOG and Tiger Force and Phoenix Program were our counters... SOG podcasts are the very best.
John Meyer and doc dick Thompson are some real badass American hero’s. God has special places for men of such caliber.
I would legitimately pay double retail for a chance to listen to jocko narrate the whole book with tilts commentary. All 3 bookcasts would be LEGENDARY.
Same
YEES
Yes Sir !!
@@Music7ube we
same
Tilt is one unbelievable man. My favorite guest, his stories are incredible and his chemistry with jocko is something only warriors can share. Im thoroughly looking forward to this one. Already binged his previous podcasts atleast 3 times each. More tilt!!
More Tilt indeed:))
Oh yeah
Awshs
John Stryker Meyer.. I clicked so fast
Hah me too and I have re listened I think 5 times
I clicked on the video to continue the Vietnam theme from the previous vid. Didn’t know who Stryker was before hand. Do you have any recommended episodes/ other podcasts to watch? I’m always down to discover new content
For sure.. go to episode 180, 181, and 182.
@@Painted_Owl type in jocko sog playlist on Spotify for all the the stories like this
@@motomorator thank you 🙏
These SOG guys are something else. Somebody needs to make a series like The Pacific about them.
There is a 80s sitcom called Tour of duty that is somewhat based off of the studies observation group. It starts out as regular army, and works itself Into the SOG stories.
@@TruTube.1. The pacific and band of brothers may not be super accurate, but after reading all these books the only thing I want is a a good movie or show about these guys. Itll definitely happen sooner or later and I cant wait.
Do you really want a woke interpretation of SOG?
@@teddysalad8227 Of course, SOG was mostly made up of woman with prosthetics right?.....
God no, I'd love a SOG movie or even a show but for the love of god they better not add some feminist, communist sympathizing bullshit to it
@@cron1165 n1rh
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I see TILT. I stop whatever I'm doing and listen!
Fingers crossed Lynne Black gets on the show
Dunno if you know,
SOGCast #028. It’s on Audible if you have it.
John is freaking SHARP man. He's 74 but could easily pass for 60
No excuses Biden ! No excuses.
Jocko is so hardcore, and these stories make him look like a pup. Love all these guys! God Bless our Vietnam Veterans.
1:28:22 - "I've got a used helmet if you wanna use it." I actually laughed out loud at this. Tilt you're one dark humored bamf
Yeah, that's the definition of gallows humor if ever there was...
I honestly don’t think I’ve been this happy in a couple months. I wish Mr. Meyer could be on every episode
I'm completely blown away by this man. His attitude,. Bravery, humor, and also how quick witted and sharp his memory is.
Bought “Across the fence” and “On the ground “ soon after i heard the first podcast. Fucking. Legendary!
Me too brother. And I think it’s great we are finally able to give back to these guys in some way by buying the books...but HOLY SHIT did these guys get after it. The carnage they survived is so statistically unforgiving and yet here they are to tell the story. Unbelievable
I think Lynne Black's mission in the middle part of this episode is undoubtably the most violent engagement Jocko has covered on the podcast. Truly unbelievable that anyone survived to tell the tale.
You definitely did not want to surrender as a SOG member, I have read stories of the many different ways they were tortured and executed... like being skinned alive or a flame thrower to your open torso...
💯 agreed
14:51 French not letting soldiers disembark, plus abandoned 1000s of POWs in Vietnam.. So did the USA abandoned POWS is true! Books: "Enormous Crime"-by Bill Hendon.
America 🇺🇸 left our Living Soldiers behind, 1000s, over 4 different wars. Beyond your worst belief! Surreal & Depressing.
I’ve listened to 100’s of podcasts and these jocko w tilts ones are PURE GOLD
I love Tilts laugh. Makes me smile everytime. Legends is an understatement.
Its infectious!!!
I’ve listened to a lot of War stories but Oscar 8 Lynn Black that is truely the most incredible story I’ve ever heard. Make a fort out of the dead NVA using there weapons and ammunition, charging through the enemies extended line when your about to be over run, going on the offensive attacking mortar tubes, heroism bravery courage, those words don’t seem to do it justice. Medal of honour 10 times over. Macvsog some of the bravest craziest bad ass warriors I’ve ever heard about. Done right what an incredible movie
I just love watching Tilt light up. The deep lines around his eyes certainly show a long life of appreciation, understanding, and happiness. I suppose this is the beauty of life's balance.
I agree.
I started listening to Jocko Podcast because of John Stryker Meyer's stories. Love seeing him back on.
Tilt should be a permanent member of this podcast. Make it happen, please!
Ok. I never thought I'd say it. This is by far the most metal episode ever. There is at least 2 death metal albums worth of material here.
thats just 1 death metal album on double vinyl
These men were in large part, sons of WW2 veterans, same values, standing on broad shoulders..thanks Jocko, the exposure you provide helps bridge generations.
John Stryker Meyer is easily the best guest on here! His other episodes are absolutely insane!
Someone needs to make movies about this man! Him and Dick Thompson!
AND THE FRENCHMAN!
Billy Waugh, Eldon Bargwell,JerryShriver,Spider Parks, &Pat Watkins. I wonder if Jocko could talk to Gary Sinise to talk to one of his mega director freinds like Stephen Spielberg or even Dale Dye (Vietnam vet and legendary technical advisor) to make a movie or mini series about the men of SOG..... I mean damn, I would pitch in $200.00 to help with that.... kinda like what Matt Best and Nick Palmiscano did with Range15.
I always said tom hanks should do a series about vietnam like bob or the pacific and do sog missions that would be insane
I think they called it Rambo?
Roger that. Just amazing humans and glad they’re Americans.
This guy deserves a Medal of Honor without no question, this is one the most craziest stories ever and he actually survived
The best guest, will probably never get better than these guys.
Its always incredible when Jocko and Stryker get together. Their comradery, humility, and deep respect and appreciation for each other is palpable. Such an honor to experience.
Jocko Willink for President 2024
Hands down one of my favorite guests, Jocko has had on his podcast
As a former Scarface Marine from circa 1995 to 1999 its amazing to hear a piece of the squadron's history documented lime this.
S.O.G.= STUPENDOUS OVERSIZED GONADS, bravery and honor at another level👍
Stop using S.O.G. abbreviations to describe yourself.
DonniOnnyOla 1 have you seen his??? 😨
Maybe you don't realize that saying someone has big balls is a compliment denoting bravery
Sorry my for ignorance, I thought you were calling them gonads.
@@donnionnyola1685 that's okay, I didn't really make a cohesive statement, I should have been less cheeky and more thoughtful. Those Vietnam special forces guys were a special breed. I meant no disrespect whatsoever.
Tilt: "You've been there....... yeah....."
Jocko: "No, I HAVEN'T been there!!"
GOOD!!!
John Stryker Meyer! Took a road trip yesterday just to listen.
The tilt podcasts are my favourite
I get so caught up in Jocko's reading that when he coughed I thought it was in the book
Tilts Back!!! Sorry Lynn Black couldn’t make it. No matter how many times I read it I’m always amazed at the Odds against these men . Thanks Jocko
Though I have enjoyed all of your podcasts, the John Stryker Meyer series has been my absolute favorite.. I have seen each episode multiple times. This happens to be my third or fourth the viewing of episode 247 as a matter of fact. Once again, God bless you Jocko for your bringing these American Heroes the Acclaim that they deserve. The chemistry between you and John is awesome!
LOVE these SOG guys on here. Absolutely the best..I'd be over the moon if Pat Watkins and Spider Parks got on with Jocko. The stories are insane and their humor is fantastic.
These guys arent getting any younger. Buy their books. They walked amongst us quietly for many years. They deserve our appreciation and these days that's in the form of buying their books.
I had WTF in my Amazon cart, I was holding off as I've already bought books this month. Your comment made me cave and I bought it. Thanks, I really didn't want to wait.
Bought their books a while back and Capt Charlie Plumb
Just bought W.T.F. and across the fence just now. Lol
It’s great to see you’re doing well Mr. Meyer. Thank you for everything you went through to protect our nation.
Thani you Mr Meyer and jocko for you to brave souls from not just states but for taking care of us in Canada as well ou know what I mean
I literally clicked the like button even before Jocko's introduction, knowing this is going to be another awesome episode.
I’ve seen the comment “I’ve never clicked so fast” and I always mutter ‘yeah sure bud’ but I really have never clicked on anything so fast in my life. I’m not a regular listener but listening to Jocko’s Vietnam guests is the best time I can imagine. I’d just tired of listening to Tilt. Thompson and the Frenchman and then this drops. Commence....
Mike Glover, Mike Ritland, Kevin The Irishman, Tim Kennedy....these dudes🤘🇺🇸
"Danger Close" came out in 2019 about the Australian and New Zealand solders. It's based on the real battle of Long Tan. This took place in the rubber plantation that J Meyer talked about.
Good movie, it's on Amazon prime 👍
DUDE! I WATCHED THE ORIGINAL TRIO 3 TIMES EACH! HELL YEAH
Same here, all of the SOG podcast's, Tilt, Frenchman, Henry, and this one.
Tilt telling stories is great. Glad to see him back again. LLTFM
I cant believe you have Tilt back on , cant wait to hear from Lynn Black!! Other episodes were mind boggling crazy
A true hero, great American and a wonderful down to earth man.
So glad John is back!
Thank You Jocko. Thank You John Striker Meyer. Thank You Lynne Black. Thank You Dick Thompson, RIP The Frenchman 🙏.Thank You MAC V SOG . 🇺🇸 the history of the MAC V SOG are by far my favorite podcasts. Thank You Echo. Look forward to hearing from "Tilt" again & learning more about the MAC V SOG teams of Vietnam. (+100 % casualties , 3 mission contracts , 3 operators vs 3,000 NVA ! I hope that 1.1 who had the meltdown didn't get assigned as a 1.0 & lead a team again ! I cannot wait to read & find out what happened.)
Joshua fun fact about that mission it was not 3,000; it was 10,000, aka a division
It almost defies comprehension that they could survive those odds. I agree with earlier comments, this would be the ultimate war movie , maybe by Ridley Scott...
5:57 - Forward Operating Base 1 (also known as FOB 1, Phu Bai Airfield and Camp Hochmuth) “is a former U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corps base south of Huế, in central Vietnam.
The Army Security Agency, operating under cover of the 3rd Radio Research Unit (3rd RRU), established a radio facility at Phu Bai in 1963, 12 km southeast of Huế on Highway 1. The operational unit was later redesignated as the 8th Radio Research Field Station (8th RRFS).
In 1965, the U.S. Marine Corps established a base across Highway 1 from the 3rd RRU facility. In late 1965, The 3rd Marine Division established its headquarters at Phu Bai and would remain there until late 1967, when it was moved forward to Đông Hà.
In late November 1967, the base was named Camp Hochmuth in honor of Bruno Hochmuth, Commanding General, 3rd Marine Division, who was killed in a helicopter explosion north of Huế.
In June or July 1968, U.S. Special Forces established Forward Operating Base 1 (FOB 1) at Phu Bai. The base remained in use until early 1969.
On 30/31 January 1968, the base was hit by Vietcong mortar and rocket fire as part of the Tet Offensive. The base was used to support U.S. and ARVN forces fighting in the Battle of Huế. The first relief force was dispatched from Phu Bai to the MACV Compound in Huế City.
On 15 February 1968, General Creighton Abrams established MACV forward at Phu Bai to assume direct control of US forces in northern I Corps, which were then engaged in the Battle of Huế, the Battle of Khe Sanh, and the Tet Counteroffensive.
On 10 March 1968, MACV Forward, having served its purpose, was converted to a Corps headquarters and designated Provisional Corps, Vietnam, under the command of Lieutenant General William B. Rosson. Rosson exercised operational control over the 3rd Marine Division (Reinforced), the 1st Cavalry Division, the 101st Airborne Division (Reinforced) and assigned Corps troops. The new Corps also co-operated closely with the ARVN 1st Division in the area. Provisional Corps, Vietnam, was designated XXIV Corps on 12 August 1968.
The 45th Engineer Group moved north to the Phu Bai area in February 1968, where it assumed general construction support missions for the I Corps Tactical Zone. The group then remained in the Da Nang area until departing Vietnam.
In 1969, the 85th Evacuation Hospital moved from Qui Nhơn and was established at the northwest end of the airfield, adjacent to Highway 1. That same year, the headquarters of the 101st Airborne Division was moved to Phu Bai.
Units based at Phu Bai during this period included: 220th Aviation Company, and HMM-161 (October 1969 - September 1970)."
Coordinates: 16°24′06″N 107°42′10″E
27:06 - "Forward Operating Base 4 (also known as FOB 4) is a former Military Assistance Command, Vietnam - Studies and Observations Group (MACV-SOG) Command and Control North base. It was near the Marble Mountains southeast of Da Nang, Vietnam. Seabees from NMCB 12 built sea huts on the base in 1968.
The base was located immediately north of the Marble Mountains and south of Marble Mountain Air Facility. It was one of the six FOBs the special forces had in Vietnam.
On the night of 22-23 August 1968, as part of their Phase III Offensive, a company from the Viet Cong (VC) R20 Battalion and a sapper platoon infiltrated the base, killing 17 Special Forces soldiers (their largest one-day loss of the war) and wounding another 125 allied soldiers. Thirty-two VC were killed."
Coordinates: 16.007°N 108.262°E
44:00 - "The Iron Triangle (Vietnamese:Tam Giác Sắt) was a 120 square miles (310 km2) area in the Bình Dương Province of Vietnam, so named due to it being a stronghold of Viet Minh activity during the war. The region was under control of the Viet Minh throughout the French war in Vietnam and continued to be so throughout the phase of American involvement in the Vietnam War, despite concerted efforts on the part of US and South Vietnamese forces to destabilize the region as a power base for their enemy, the communist North Vietnamese-sponsored and-directed South Vietnamese insurgent movement, the Viet Cong (VC).
The location of the Iron Triangle was between the Saigon River on the west and the Tinh River on the east and bordering Route 13 about 25 miles (40 km) north of Saigon. The southern apex of the "triangle" was seven miles (11 km) from Phú Cường, the capital of Bình Dương Province. Its proximity to Saigon was both a reason for American and South Vietnamese efforts to eradicate it, as well as why it remained a crucial area for Communist forces to control.
The terrain within the Iron Triangle was flat, almost featureless, and covered by dense brush and undergrowth. The clearings, especially in the northern part, were thick with elephant grass, higher than a man's head. The surface was scarred by countless bomb and shell craters so that vehicular movement off the narrow, rough dirt roads was nearly impossible, even tracked vehicles had difficulty. A vast network of tunnels and trenches, most of them caved-in and abandoned, laced this ground that had been the scene of battles since the early days of the second Indochina war."
I’ve listened to the other podcast with this gentleman multiple times really awesome you guys got him back on!
These men executed likely the most epic battles in history. Makes me proud to be an American.
Another podcast featuring "Tilt"? YES!!! Thank you for getting the story of SOG out to the people.
I read WTF a few years ago. All I could think while reading the account of Oscar 8 was how on earth did Black not receive the MOH for this. Good God!
probably because it’s super top secret operations
Multiple special operations guys in Vietnam recieved the MOH. Including several SOG guys
@@Badlatitude not enough of them in my opinion
Probably something to do with "REMFs" he mentions. A lot of politics involved in medals in the sense that if the command decides they don't like a guy they won't upgrade recommendations or will outright deny them.
Soon as I seen Tilt was back on had to turn JRE off an listen to this..
I just did the same! Sorry Snowden I'll be back. Jocko you rock!!! Tilt is the baddest
Same! I just cut off Mike Ritland with Shane and Clint as soon as I saw this.
@Cecil Gibson seen
Literally did the same thing when I saw who was back
Never ceases to amaze me how we can have the greatest military in the world capable of defeating any enemy controlled by politicians that make decisions that somehow make it impossible to achieve victory, and this has been going on since Korea (with the exception of the first gulf war)
Actually in the 1st Gulf War they should have just went ahead and taken Saddam out. It would have saved going back(or not gone back, however you want to argue it). I guess one of the Bush's made the wrong decision. But from everything read and seen on it, H.W. Bush told them stop after they had whipped the Iraqi army and were poised to continue towards Bagdad, when given that Saddam wouldn't voluntarily abandon Kuwait, he should have been deposed then and there, but as I said that part is debatable.
But I do agree with the rest of your statement, was just saying could make a case to include Gulf 1 in that as well.
It’s the corporate generals’ fault. As Col David Hackworth called them
@@DavidThomas-qq4hf if we would have done that at the time, it would have accelerated the time we spent in Iraq from 2003 to 1991 and at the time that wasn't the objective- the objective was to remove the Iraqi army out of Kuwait and neutralize any threat to Saudi Arabia, who by the way, paid for the entire thing because their army couldn't stand alone against Iraq if they decided to turn left on the map.
Schwartzkofpt called it when he said if we decided to invade Iraq at that time, we would be "stuck there like a dinosaur in a tar pit", which is exactly what happened. He wanted to ensure American troops had a clear path to victory so it could be over once combat operations ended...but we don't always have a choice when the CiC decides to take action for reasons out of our control.
2:48:41 "It's these damn debriefs"
That is SO BADASS!!!
Great to see Tilt back! These SOG missions were beyond insane. Amazing anyone survived.
These SOG stories are absolutely incredible.
I want to see more podcasts from all the Vietnam Recon/Special Forces guys.
LRRPs, Force Recon, MIKE Force, MACVSAR, etc
Love these podcasts with John Meyers . Thank you for your service! Welcome home! Son of a Vietnam Vet
Listened to all the SOG podcasts, all are amazing stories and tales. These men are beyond brave! Some BAD MEN!! Unreal!
This is the best Jocko Podcast so far......that was intense.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot !!!!!!!!!!!
The Aussies ran into a little trouble too on a rubber plantation at Long Tan.
When I need to grind hard at work, I listen to the sog episodes. Specially Tilt's.
If Lynn is still alive, come on Tilt, take him on podcast with you
the stream of consciousness, borderline humorous, often perfectly recalled moment by moment observations of the Alabama recon team’s end of the world 10000 to 1 battle told in a stilted Saigon debriefing is fantastic. The weird relationship between 1-1 and 1-2 unspools through the streets of Saigon on the way to the formal debrief, then in the briefing room. Chapter 2 I believe is one of the greatest war story passages ever told.
Love SOG and Nam vets tell of their experiences. Jocko's struggle with Vietnamese pronunciation is also hilarious.
I just binge watched all of these SOG podcasts, so good- these guys were total professional warriors. Just ordered “across the fence” love these~ keep it up as long as you can
I love the nam podcasts! The sog guys are awesome!
Jocko never disappoints me. Always, Always brings his A game
Out of Dublin Ireland. I have so much respect for John and his men. Love hearing these stories. Thank you Jocko. Listening for year’s first comment.
YES. John Stryker Meyer is the GOAT
Love the John Meyer episodes, always fun and informative.
Best story of the podcast so far. Crazy. Thank you for telling it.
I've been waiting for Tilt to come back on. I check every day.
Just binged watched the last 3, these are the best war stories!
I don't read often. I just ordered two books just from the way Jocko talks about them. Turning my life around.
Tilt is awesome, was excited to see he is back on.
We need more of Tilt, and S.O.G stories .Keep rewatching all of them over an over. Thank you!
Uk watcher
This has to be made into a Netflix documentary, unbelievable bravery, before there story's are lost forever.
I listened to 3 in a row, the balls on these guys .
First time I’ve ever watched a pod cast this long. WOW I was glued to the story as a veteran myself I felt inadequate as a mere aircraft mechanic for 6 years. I realize I could has done more but I feel secure that what I worked on never failed and the crew came home alive and safe mission accomplished. God bless America never forget.
TILT. Thank you for your service.
Respect Black Jack from the First Battalion the Royal Australian Regiment 1965, thanks for showing the way.
You gotta get Lynn Black on here. Amazing stories!
Everytime I flip my pillow at night I'm afraid I'll find Tilt in his "R.O.N" under it. Legend has it he taught The Boogie Man his scare tactics...
This was by far, hands down, the most astonishing story i have ever heard in my life.
Mine too!
I don't think Hollywood has enough ordinance to make a movie about any of these guys. So glad the survivors got to finally enjoy life. 🇺🇸👍
Tilt. 4 of us watched this and didn’t say anything for 5 hrs. My respect to you all.
Shouldn't it be some kind of crime that Jorge Masvidal is walking around with that 'BMF' title while these vietnam SOG guys are still around?
@Basement Dweller No shit. He's a fighter not a soilder.
That "title" was just a ploy to sell PPV for a couple of former 155 lb fighters.
Jocko reading makes it intense and I can’t stop listening. I can just image everything he reads and just imagine like I can see it all go down. Thank you to all our Military service members for what they do. 🇺🇸
Jocko Sogcast -- let's make it a thing.
So SOG probably killed and led to killing of thousands of NVA troops with very few casualties-- that ratio is incredible-- talk about force multipliers. I appreciate how they picked up the enemies weapons after exhausting their ammunition, and continued the slaughter...
Kill ratio was estimated to be 158 to 1
This is the war we should’ve fought. Having a large, slow conventional force in that country with that terrain was ludicrous and probably cost us the war. SOG teams were who the NVA feared most. The reason why they were willing to sacrifice so many of their own men just to take out a team the size of a squad. 👍🏼🇺🇸
another podcast where i was glued to the screen the entire 3 and a half hours, much respect for all the SOG guys, unbelievable heroism and balls of steel
Tilt! Oh mean this is getting watched today. Every podcast I'm finding new heroes
Just a legend. John Meyer.
TILT, JOCKO, ECHO... Thank you
Good gracious. I hope it becomes clear to history sooner than later how powerful and even unique are Jocko and Echo's Podcasts.
Dan Carlin once said” Reading history made me lose taste for fiction.”........YEP.