I've just come here to say that for the last two days I was working on translating this whole video to Czech, so my family and friends could understand what Dr. Peterson is saying in his advanced english. I'd like to thank you, Dr. Peterson, for sharing your fantastic hypothesis with us.
Hi. Not sure I actually get a reply after two years but will try anyway. I'm very interested in the Czech translation for the same reason you did it. Is there any chance you can share it? Thanks
My friends tell me I'm weird for watching uni lectures during my free time when out of my free time I'm listening to lectures at uni as well. No tests for me, no homework. Stress-free learning. I'm happy.
@@AMentorway4u Well the reason he has so much knowledge is because he is willing to learn more from other people. If he asked if people disagreed incase he can learn something from them.
alexzag week well no, it's not really sitting back, it's more of a hard slog through the absolute horrors of the human condition and a struggle of the mind.
0:00 Agreeableness explanation 23:16 Unagreeableness and criminality, and regulation of aggression 36:22 Personality trait and political belief 45:00 Overcoming personality disadvantages
24:43 "It's easy for people to confuse confidence for competence". I had never noticed that concept; I love how powerful these lectures are; power-charged with insights of knowledge like a mine field. Dr Peterson is such a great teacher. I'm so thankful that he had the initiative to record and and upload these lectures.
Confusing confidence for competence allows a con man (that's short for "confidence", by the way) to trick the unsuspecting. If you act like you know what you're doing, people will buy it.
Maybe they should create "nice weekend syndrome" Make idea once a week going to a nature, camping or hiking with a family, play silly games, with some ball, or do tenis, husband will bond more with wife, wife will bond more with husband, thanks to innocent silly games. I mean games like "who will" make the tent first etc or who will prepare food, or something little just for fun, bringing some mushroom, in such innocent moment wife and husband enjoy the moments of silence, and gentle loving touch, holding hands while walking in nature, or he helps making a camp fire, she will hand him the stuff from bag, without any silly analytical "thoughts" in head looking into each others eyes, without words, Actions speak louder than constantly anlyzing, In silence they actually create "bonding loving" atmposphere in their marriage. People dont practice this silent approach, just sitting looking in camp fire and enjoy family time, or riding a horse together, walking a dog silently, and enjoying the other person´s presence, they are taught by media, to just talk all the time, so they dont have time to fall in love over and over again. But usually you fall in love especially when your mouth are shut, when your mind isnt too rational in prefrontal cortex, and eyes open, not in times of constant analyzis. so ypou let your heart speak sometimes too. Its called brain heart coherence, in state of alpha, theta. Laughter is healling and laughter makes people bond together. Children may learn new hobbies. It is better than being constantly attacked by news and silly topics on social media, or being brainwashed to eat some pills to feel happier. Hobbies and laughter is good stimulation for brain, also it increases immunity of the body, so people feel healthier, happier.
Your generosity is boundless. I don't think people truly understand how blessed we are to have this man just put his work out there. Yes, I understand that it could have been for publicity or for extra income, but I truly believe he did this act to actually teach others who, quite frankly, would never have the opportunity to be in that classroom. You are such a blessing and inspirational, Dr. Peterson.
My favorite lecture, by far. A 50 minute video so dense with possibly life changing information, presented in a concise and captivating way. A trully remarkable lesson. Thank you, professor, for providing me with the opportunity to listen to this from home, free of charge. Wish you the best in everything you do.
Dude Jordan is a fucking hero. Not only is he so carefully articulate and with every word, he's able to cover every perspective base describing his points. I also don't understand why people aren't more interested in personality. It's blatantly obvious that our beliefs and paradigms of the world determine how we will act. It's the ultimate predictor/measure of how people think and act. It just intrigues me, I love this shit so much
One year later watching the same vid. Embarrassed of posting such a crass comment on such a profound video series. 1 year later and I’ve seen and enacted major changes
Very very true. I went to my boss. Showed what I earn for the company. And asked for a raise. His answer was the others do not earn that much. I told him the others cannot do my job. I am very aware how agreeable I had been. This is over now. Because no one will evaluate my work for the less money.
Dr Peterson, I felt compelled to write this comment to thank you. You came to my attention, like many others, through your free speech battles, but this series and your other philosophical work has given me profound insight into my psyche and given me tools and ideas to work on for my own betterment. While I'm grateful for this, what I really grateful for is giving me the framework to help someone else, someone who I care very deeply about and love very much, my partner. She has suffered with depression since she was in her mid teens and had a quite turbulent child hood. In the past when she would have a bad time or hit a low point I could be there for her as at best a comfort, which of course has value, but thanks to the lessons I have learned from your lectures I have been able to talk to her about her feelings. We did what you advocate and spoke the truth and see what happened. What happened was we had an intense but deeply gratifying conversation. One that didn't just sooth her, but one I think will help her grow, and in that process I felt I have grown and our relationship has become stronger. She will be seeing a counsellor soon but I walked her through the big 5 attributes and suggested some actions from the past authoring suite and she took to the ideas really well. She has a lot of baggage from her past, so facing these will be tough, but she saw the value in doing it. So I wanted to thank you for giving me the tools to sort myself out, but also help my partner sort herself out.
His uninterrupted train of thought is astounding. I am a former academic and I suffer from depression and an autoimmune illness. My career was destroyed by them, my train of thought will not last more than twenty minutes without making me physically ill. I am not able to wrap my head around his ability to deliver at such an incredible calibre in spite of him suffering from depression too, as well as an autoimmune illness. How on earth?!
I am extremely grateful that this is available, openly. When I watch these lectures I feel like various avenues of thinking where I got stuck long ago, suddenly unclog and I feel this rush of sudden understanding. Thank you.
I took to heart the advice on the job of a parent and discussed it with my better half. We agreed upon an way to apply it IRL. Now, 3 years later I'm absolutely positive that our 5yo is welcomed everywhere and has many play dates in part because of that approach. He's a cheeky little boy with a sense of humor that seems to charm people around him. Exactly what I could only hope he would become (thus far). We're absolutely blessed that way. TY
I really appreciated this video as I've come to realize I am highly agreeable (to my detriment). At the very end of this video Dr. Peterson states that it would be useful to investigate the viewpoints of people with opposing views. Now that is something that I can do. It's a start anyway.... I'm a single mom raising 2 boys and I've come to realize that I've got a responsibility to toughen up and be the parent and teach them basic things like how to clean their room, take the trash out etc. By my doing everything for them really isn't doing them any favors in the long term if I'm quietly teaching them how to get everyone else to do their work for them.
Well until into my early 20's I used to be extremely high in agreeableness and conflict avoidance, which led me to let people walk all over me, being bullied and do nothing about it, which caused me to be unable to connect with people, which led me to feel anxious, depressed and lonely most of the time and engage in all sorts of destructive behaviors as a coping mechanism Probably being raised by a single mother didn't helped Oddly enough, I was able to start to change that when I fixed my diet (more protein and less carbs), started working out and engaging in competitive sports/ games I don't know if it was because of the testosterone boost, the increase in self-confidence, or both, but it fixed most of the issues except for the anxiety part, but I guess that's just who I am Anyway, good luck and have a great day
@@CloudShepherd don't let that shit get to you, there are judgemental idiots and keyboard warriors everywhere, especially now with social media and stuff Anyway, have a great day man
I too am so far on the agreeableness spectrum that for most of my life I didn’t even know what I liked. JPs last few minutes were his most important in this video. Young people should take note of where they are temperamentally before choosing a partner. If you are highly agreeable and choose the opposite, when you hit middle age you will have a world of regret. I have seen this pattern repeatedly, “so and so is so nice, why are they with such an awful person?” Being agreeable has its benefits, and it’s pitfalls. I guess it comes down to “know thyself” and choose your partner wisely.
As a moderately-agreeable person (also much to my own chagrin) watching this is immensely helpful. I feel a lot more conscious of my own potential pitfalls, so I want to thank you for that!
Doc P's lectures are the easiest lecture to want to listen to because everything he says is absolutely fascinating and useful to know!! Thank you for making these free to us! Three cheers for the People's Professor! Let him that has ears let him hear!
Outline of this lecture: 2:16 Danger of confusing personality traits with moral virtues. 4:56 Women are more agreeable than men. 6:40 Pros and cons of being agreeable. 6:55 Salary is correlated negatively with agreeableness. Comment on business negotiations. 9:14 Agreeable people like to be liked. 9:35 Why personality differences between men and women exist ? 16:13 Disagreeable people. 19:04 Conscientiousness vs agreeableness 20:55 Agreeable people do not like conflict. 23:20 Regulation of aggression. 23:54 Tangent: criminals/psychopaths. 26:46 Importance of rough and tumble games. 28:52 ADHD 30:55 Your job as a parent is to make your child socially desirable by the age of 4. 32:29 Above 4 years old primary socialization with children takes place among other children. 34:23 Agreeableness range: predatory aggression vs maternal sympathy. 36:29 Liberals vs conservatives 39:26 Political correctness. Two types. 45:15 What is the best antidote to views which are simplifying the world ?
The anecdote about your disagreeable friend is brilliant. The difficult truths, especially the ones that hurt peoples feelings, are sometimes the most valuable!
You were better than the "therapist" I had for 1 year. She simply recommended divorce. I get you. This is amazing. I've been surely surely waiting for this Understanding; understanding is power.
I actually feel like i should be wearing a monicle after watching this. i feel so smart after listening to all this. it makes so much sense, and makes me think about things in ways ive never thought about them before. Absolutely Incredible.
yeah you usually feel smart by having someone explain something to you that you did not already understand yourself because for a moment you feel like you understand it, even if you don't.
Timestamp: 44:38 Dr. Peterson gave us all the secret sauce on how to utilize personality temperament to find your niche to 1) survive such that it isn't crossroads to your being and 2) the incentive to explore or at least be open to the counter personality to understand and possibly learn other toolsets to thrive. God bless you, Dr. Peterson for your legacy and work!
No, you need authorities, so that when you accomplish your learning in the future, some one can give you recognition and so that your skills will not loss and go in vain.
I took and paid for Jordan's big five test, and I scored 3rd percentile on politeness lmao. But extremely high in compassion. The test was very accurate and I recommend it! About my extremely low politeness, it said "you may respect people, but only those who deserve it, question authority/social norms, don't shy away or back down from confrontation, and tend to question others, more likely to be dominant etc." And all of that is very true.
When he's so eloquently finding his words, he looks up to the sky/ceiling and it's like he's plucking them out of the air or like he sees the words above him being given to him as he's speaking. He's truly a messenger of some sort. Alien or angel, I know not.
I recall reading somewhere that looking up and to the left (I think it was left) occurs due to a high level of engagement of the verbal section of your brain.
wow I hope you're just hyper-romantic and not insane. I mean, sure he's intelligent but calling him a supernatural messenger? Don't you think that discredits him, humanity, and reality slightly?
he explained in a highly recommended interview with Patrick Bet David that he has been building a body of knowledge as a building, where he keeps adding facts and interpretations accordingly. So it seems that he picks up the information and words from ''inside the building, in the appropriate room''
I wish I was a student in your classroom. But these videos are great. Thank You!! 😊 for letting me in your video class to hear your brilliant thoughts and knowledge. Forever grateful.
I have a sleeping disorder. The one thing that is helping me when my wife is not around is listening to this guy. Every time I listen to this, I sleep halfway. Thank you doc.
How incredibly lucky are the students in Dr. Peterson's classes! His desire to ensure that he presents the subject at hand in the most clear and concise manner for the benefit of his students is incredible. No ego.
I like how he links Political alignment to Personality. In the end, everyone is not so different from each other. And we can learn to observe the other end of the personality spectrum and assimilate, the world will be a better place.
Interesting. I’ve been watching these lectures to expand my knowledge about personality (and because I’m about to begin teaching and JP is a well-versed orator), but the rough and tumble play bit is something I can talk about in a review paper I’m working on. Always cool when the stuff I do late at night to relax is actually productive for my work! In the outside chance anyone is curious, my lab’s theoretical position is that individual differences in the ability to control attention, and not necessarily working memory capacity (WMC) or fluid intelligence (Gf), are the primary driver of individual differences in cognition more broadly and therefore possibly the fundamental marker of cognitive ability. We think that WMC and Gf are important but that attention control is broader, and mediates (explains) the strong relationship between WMC and Gf (which can be thought of, roughly speaking, as involving the ability to maintain goal-directed information and disengage from irrelevant information, respectively, whereas attention control is involved in both). The review paper will cover several areas of research that have emphasized the role of WMC in applied settings (such as automation, education, testing, training, policing, psychopathology, sports) and argue instead that attention control can be as important if not more so in these domains, so researchers ought to invest more to study attention control’s role in these domains. As part of the education and/or training section, we can mention the part about how engaging in “safe” roughhousing in toddlers may improve cognitive ability (specifically inhibition as Peterson & Flanders, 2015 argue, which is basically attention control) and therefore might be an alternative remediation strategy and overall better approach to improving future academic achievement in children than these ill-fated efforts to train working memory capacity/intelligence. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like rough and tumble play can help a student once they’re school-aged, but at least we can advocate for awareness in parents engaging in this type of play as something they can do to socialize their child, curb aggressive and antisocial behavior, and, most relevant to our manuscript, potentially improve attentional abilities and help reduce the chances of the child developing ADHD and similar issues.
This guy is spot on about parenting your aggressive boys. You can make them valuable members of society, given their gift of aggression. They can be protectors
I have just come across this video for the first time, although i am quite aware of Jordan Peterson and have watched many of his lectures with admiration. At roughly twenty eight minutes, he mentions the correlation between "rough and tumble" play and the effect of regulating aggresive behaviour, i wonder if he has hit upon the reasoning behind single mother parenting of boys possibly leading to crime in later life. I don,t mean this in a disrepective way to single mothers, but purely as an honest comment based on information raised elsewhere on the internet with allegations towards this.
Absolutely brilliant insights into human development, psychological traits, and interpersonal relationships with practical applications that could literally improve your life.
The best part of this lecture is at the end when JBP tells us to try to learn how to use the traits that are opposite to our nature and find a role that matches our natural inclinations. Fill in the gaps in your personality. Also, do this with your choice of partner. Find someone that has some of the opposing traits but not too extreme as to lead to irreconcilable differences.
I knew a guy who said that his mother would give her children the food off her plate, and leave herself nothing for dinner. Now, years later, I understand that she was in the top 1% of agreeableness - she wanted to do for others so much that it was pathological.
Never met anyone in my search (decades) that explained this. The beginning was powerful then began my struggle and the results were exactly as he explained. Extremely appreciated.
I literally laughed at 'disagreeable people won't do a thing they don't want to do' -- because I got 88/100 on the test for disagreeableness, and I knew it beforehand, and I do things I don't want to do ... but not often and I have to really like you and care for you or have a good reason to do so... I have things I need to get done and my day is planned out and I don't want to be interrupted, so unless you're my best friend, my husband, my mother, or my cat, I do not like to be interrupted and do things I don't want to do.
Love his descriptions. Jordan is very precise in the way that he breaks down the complexity of personality and how it correlates to the type of job you have. Very interesting, and insightful.
I never thought I was agreeable until watching this video. Wow, I didn’t even realize I was suffering.Thank you for this video. I now at least understand why.
These are fascinating lectures. It's the insight which continually staggers me. Agreeableness is very energy intensive, as a neurotic I am many kilocalories removed from it!
mabaker nothing wrong with having heroes. They provide impetus to act and change yourself. Which is kinda ironic in Peterson's case if you know his literature. :P
According to JBP, the class ratio is 80% females and 20% males. The males, I've noticed ask questions way more than females. This must be because women are higher on agreeablness and consciousness than men.
In my high school the girl ask a lot more questions than the guys, but the guys ask the more provoking question. Like girls ask for clarification, while guys ask for analysis.
Maybe it's because they're oppressed by the patriarchy and are not empowered to speak up. I'm joking, but I don't think you're particularly on the money on that very interesting phenomenon either.
What a superb lecture from 2017, so much packed into a short space of time. I'd love to hear Dr Peterson's thoughts on extremely disorderly people who may subconsciously create the disorder in order to keep other people at arm's length. I believe this condition has been described as Diogenes Syndrome, particularly where it applies to an older person. Some people believe that Beethoven had Diogenes Syndrome. These Toronto University lectures never disappoint and we can all learn so much from them. Much appreciated.
+Jordan B Peterson 47:45 - 48:17 This really struck a nerve with me. I'm extremely disorderly with my home, I always have been. It was kinda beaten into me in elementary school that that was the way to go. Elementary school was so easy that I never did homework, I was actually reprimanded for making the amount I was comfortable with, which for math and native language class were the whole books the first day. I didn't need my books most of the time because in my home elementary school knowledge was common knowledge. I pretty much did what I wanted in school and had my own projects at home. As such I never really learned to form a schedule and stick to it. Now I've got a depression because of Asperger's Syndrome. I fight against my weakness of poor social skills and it takes a toll, but it's hard not to do it. All this makes my bad habits shine through even more, it's hard to find the extra energy to deal with something "I don't notice, something that doesn't bother me"(48:06).. Living in an extremely messy home is counter-intuitive to what I want though(social equality between me and peers), so maybe I should pay more attention. Would love some advise on how to give a damn about it. I'm not exaggerating about school and how it affected me. I've had my IQ tested and I'm north of 150, the only area the doctors and guys at Mensa could discern I'm even near average is the social intellect and that's a tad lower than average. Just like a psychopath you can meet me on the street and I can pretend to be normal, but get to know me and you'll see that I'm different, in good and bad ways. Like deliberately betraying someone's trust is a foreign concept for me, I've just never done it. On the other hand I'm so disorderly and unconscientious that I might not be able to keep a promise even if I both remembered and wanted to.
You had me thinking that you are on the spectrum in the first sentence of your statement here. Best advice to you is to develop a system by which you incentivize yourself to complete tasks that you know are important, but which you do not ‘feel’ are important. By allying the incentive to the task you will be able to build the dopaminergic structures in your brain that are necessary to build new habits. Good luck! You have the self-awareness to realize what you need, and that is a long way towards reaching that goal.
Agreeableness is a devastating character trait. In a world that's inherently antagonistic, adversarial and predatory, an overly disagreeable person can still succeed. An agreeable one, even one with great potential, has no hope in hell. Unless a parental or mentor figure intervenes at an early stage, they can essentially kiss their life goodbye. This lecture and Peterson's Ted Talk on Potential are his two most important and potentially transformative videos.
but it's necessary! People just can't be all things. It's about learning when it's useful to go with your nature, and when you need to challenge yourself.
Fair points. I believe both agreeableness and disagreeableness are equally devastating personality traits. The most disagreeable amongst us are at war with everyone around them and will eventually end up - like Peterson said - in prison. And I believe an overly agreeable person can still succeed. Not so easily in a competitive career job, sure, but are not rich relationships, a peaceful family life, less stress, better health and a clear conscience forms of success too?
Wow, I can't believe how good of a professor he is and how interesting this stuff is. I'm studying environmental sciences, I just finished my 2nd year, and I hate university, it's a spanish university, so imagine how horrible it is. I think I love science, and definitely I feel the burden of the environment, but this lecture has blown my mind away. I would love to be there and work on this as much as I love environmental sciences. I guess I really love a lot of different things, even if I gotta choose a single one to build a career, but whatever the case is, this lecture has been fantastic
Amazing Story. While I am saddened by your extended suffering. I am thrilled at your perseverance and ability to sort this trial out. You must indeed be a remarkable Woman. Thank you for sharing your story.
Being high on agreeableness is not the problem if you work in cooperative environment as opposed to competitive disagreeable environment. If you are agreeable, stay away from nasty parasitic people.
scph-9000 actually over agreeable is an internal struggle, hell if you will. You are always seeing everyone’s perspective, trying to keep everyone happy. It has little to do with one’s external environment. It keeps a person in a continuous bind, and inhibits intimacy because you have a hard time letting anyone see your true self. So it lessens your honesty. It is emotional hell.
Women can be taught assertiveness skills for career advancement and other benefits. Men can learn strategies and skills to get along better in groups and teams. But - they have to know about traits, their traits and have access to appropriate training. Traits are not destiny unless you stumble along blindly. Dr. Peterson is providing both the knowledge and the straight talk that is usually missing in institutional programs.
"Agreeable people often dont even know what they want, cause theyre so accustomed to living for other people that its harder for them to find a sense of their own desire of how to move through life" fuck me man
I've just come here to say that for the last two days I was working on translating this whole video to Czech, so my family and friends could understand what Dr. Peterson is saying in his advanced english. I'd like to thank you, Dr. Peterson, for sharing your fantastic hypothesis with us.
Hi. Not sure I actually get a reply after two years but will try anyway. I'm very interested in the Czech translation for the same reason you did it. Is there any chance you can share it? Thanks
Podarilo sa?
Hotovo?
For free? Sounds like abuse and trolling
"fantastic hypothesis" is a loaded thing, is it not. :)
My friends tell me I'm weird for watching uni lectures during my free time when out of my free time I'm listening to lectures at uni as well. No tests for me, no homework. Stress-free learning. I'm happy.
Whatare those other people like?
cobby407 keep being happy
Same here
cobby407 Yes!
Oh, hi. The same happens to me. Stress-free learning, isn't it great?
I love how he says “I will tell you my observations and I want you to tell me if you disagree.”
This is a sign of a true master.
But than again, who could out knowledge him. 😀
@@AMentorway4u Well the reason he has so much knowledge is because he is willing to learn more from other people. If he asked if people disagreed incase he can learn something from them.
welp, i cant just let your comment sit at 39 likes....uwc
@@sedoid 😉😁
That is the sign he likes to be agreeable!
Time to sit back and soak in the knowledge. We truly appreciate your work, Dr. Peterson. Thank you!
alexzag week well no, it's not really sitting back, it's more of a hard slog through the absolute horrors of the human condition and a struggle of the mind.
His work on personality types is extremely commendable
George Orwell pfp 😩👌
just to let you know i let your comment sit at 499likes.....uwc
People tell me I am disagreeable but I disagree with them.
agree
Surely not
I disagree
"Listen I came here for an argument!"
"Im sorry, this is abuse"
reminds me of a homer simpson t-shirt i once saw: "i never apologize , sorry but thats the way i am."
0:00 Agreeableness explanation
23:16 Unagreeableness and criminality, and regulation of aggression
36:22 Personality trait and political belief
45:00 Overcoming personality disadvantages
That is a great comment
Jumped to 45:00, and the last 4 minutes are just god-tier tips. This comment could help more people, and deserves more upvotes.
Great job! Thank u🙏
Thanks.
Timestamps are for videos you won’t watch the whole way through
I think it is absolutely unbelievable how much wisdom can be jam packed into a single lecture.
24:43 "It's easy for people to confuse confidence for competence". I had never noticed that concept; I love how powerful these lectures are; power-charged with insights of knowledge like a mine field. Dr Peterson is such a great teacher. I'm so thankful that he had the initiative to record and and upload these lectures.
The inverse is true for that as well but way less common.
Confusing confidence for competence allows a con man (that's short for "confidence", by the way) to trick the unsuspecting. If you act like you know what you're doing, people will buy it.
Maybe they should create "nice weekend syndrome"
Make idea once a week going to a nature, camping or hiking with a family, play silly games, with some ball, or do tenis,
husband will bond more with wife, wife will bond more with husband, thanks to innocent silly games.
I mean games like "who will" make the tent first etc
or who will prepare food, or something little just for fun,
bringing some mushroom,
in such innocent moment wife and husband enjoy the moments of silence, and gentle loving touch, holding hands while walking in nature,
or he helps making a camp fire, she will hand him the stuff from bag, without any silly analytical "thoughts" in head
looking into each others eyes, without words,
Actions speak louder than constantly anlyzing,
In silence they actually create "bonding loving" atmposphere in their marriage.
People dont practice this silent approach,
just sitting looking in camp fire and enjoy family time, or riding a horse together, walking a dog silently, and enjoying the other person´s presence,
they are taught by media, to just talk all the time,
so they dont have time to fall in love over and over again.
But usually you fall in love especially when your mouth are shut, when your mind isnt too rational in prefrontal cortex,
and eyes open, not in times of constant analyzis.
so ypou let your heart speak sometimes too. Its called brain heart coherence, in state of alpha, theta.
Laughter is healling and laughter makes people bond together.
Children may learn new hobbies. It is better than being constantly attacked by news and silly topics on social media,
or being brainwashed to eat some pills to feel happier.
Hobbies and laughter is good stimulation for brain, also it increases immunity of the body, so people feel healthier, happier.
Everything he says is so dense in knowledge. He's droppin bombs left and right.
Yeah, red pills for breakfast, liberal tears for dessert... Jordan Peterson does his grocery shopping at Home Depot.
i think i have to re-watch his videos because its to much information to process
so de intelligent comments like yours.
Facts
@@CellGames2006 38:56 Liberal tears for dessert? He's more nuanced than doing what you're suggesting he's doing.
Your generosity is boundless. I don't think people truly understand how blessed we are to have this man just put his work out there. Yes, I understand that it could have been for publicity or for extra income, but I truly believe he did this act to actually teach others who, quite frankly, would never have the opportunity to be in that classroom.
You are such a blessing and inspirational, Dr. Peterson.
My favorite lecture, by far.
A 50 minute video so dense with possibly life changing information, presented in a concise and captivating way. A trully remarkable lesson.
Thank you, professor, for providing me with the opportunity to listen to this from home, free of charge. Wish you the best in everything you do.
Dude Jordan is a fucking hero. Not only is he so carefully articulate and with every word, he's able to cover every perspective base describing his points.
I also don't understand why people aren't more interested in personality. It's blatantly obvious that our beliefs and paradigms of the world determine how we will act. It's the ultimate predictor/measure of how people think and act. It just intrigues me, I love this shit so much
One year later watching the same vid. Embarrassed of posting such a crass comment on such a profound video series.
1 year later and I’ve seen and enacted major changes
Jordan, I just wanna say I love you.
I wish there'd be a Jordan on youtube for economics, and for art etc. I've learnt so much from your lectures.
welp, i just cant let your comment sit at 49likes.... uwc
Economics try Thomas Sowell.
Lucky you. Thomas Sowell!!!
Full agreement about Thomas Sowell - Milton Friedman is awesome, too!
Dr Thomas Sowell Is the JP of economics
Very very true. I went to my boss. Showed what I earn for the company. And asked for a raise. His answer was the others do not earn that much. I told him the others cannot do my job.
I am very aware how agreeable I had been. This is over now. Because no one will evaluate my work for the less money.
Dr Peterson,
I felt compelled to write this comment to thank you. You came to my attention, like many others, through your free speech battles, but this series and your other philosophical work has given me profound insight into my psyche and given me tools and ideas to work on for my own betterment.
While I'm grateful for this, what I really grateful for is giving me the framework to help someone else, someone who I care very deeply about and love very much, my partner. She has suffered with depression since she was in her mid teens and had a quite turbulent child hood. In the past when she would have a bad time or hit a low point I could be there for her as at best a comfort, which of course has value, but thanks to the lessons I have learned from your lectures I have been able to talk to her about her feelings. We did what you advocate and spoke the truth and see what happened.
What happened was we had an intense but deeply gratifying conversation. One that didn't just sooth her, but one I think will help her grow, and in that process I felt I have grown and our relationship has become stronger.
She will be seeing a counsellor soon but I walked her through the big 5 attributes and suggested some actions from the past authoring suite and she took to the ideas really well. She has a lot of baggage from her past, so facing these will be tough, but she saw the value in doing it.
So I wanted to thank you for giving me the tools to sort myself out, but also help my partner sort herself out.
then my character Wesen nature is absolute bullshit eben.....
it's not my fault that this society here is lame
and only values business skills and company industry skills
She’s lucky to have you!
Are you still together?
His uninterrupted train of thought is astounding. I am a former academic and I suffer from depression and an autoimmune illness. My career was destroyed by them, my train of thought will not last more than twenty minutes without making me physically ill. I am not able to wrap my head around his ability to deliver at such an incredible calibre in spite of him suffering from depression too, as well as an autoimmune illness. How on earth?!
I am extremely grateful that this is available, openly. When I watch these lectures I feel like various avenues of thinking where I got stuck long ago, suddenly unclog and I feel this rush of sudden understanding. Thank you.
I took to heart the advice on the job of a parent and discussed it with my better half. We agreed upon an way to apply it IRL. Now, 3 years later I'm absolutely positive that our 5yo is welcomed everywhere and has many play dates in part because of that approach. He's a cheeky little boy with a sense of humor that seems to charm people around him. Exactly what I could only hope he would become (thus far). We're absolutely blessed that way. TY
What exactly did you do? The only specific he mentions in the lecture is rough and tumble play. What other techniques/advice did you employ?
The amount of content packed into this 49min is unparalleled. True life advice
I really appreciated this video as I've come to realize I am highly agreeable (to my detriment). At the very end of this video Dr. Peterson states that it would be useful to investigate the viewpoints of people with opposing views. Now that is something that I can do. It's a start anyway.... I'm a single mom raising 2 boys and I've come to realize that I've got a responsibility to toughen up and be the parent and teach them basic things like how to clean their room, take the trash out etc. By my doing everything for them really isn't doing them any favors in the long term if I'm quietly teaching them how to get everyone else to do their work for them.
I'm very high in agreeableness, the drawbacks have been pretty impactful and it's pretty depressing actually. Thanks so much for all your videos.
Well until into my early 20's I used to be extremely high in agreeableness and conflict avoidance, which led me to let people walk all over me, being bullied and do nothing about it, which caused me to be unable to connect with people, which led me to feel anxious, depressed and lonely most of the time and engage in all sorts of destructive behaviors as a coping mechanism
Probably being raised by a single mother didn't helped
Oddly enough, I was able to start to change that when I fixed my diet (more protein and less carbs), started working out and engaging in competitive sports/ games
I don't know if it was because of the testosterone boost, the increase in self-confidence, or both, but it fixed most of the issues except for the anxiety part, but I guess that's just who I am
Anyway, good luck and have a great day
@@CloudShepherd don't let that shit get to you, there are judgemental idiots and keyboard warriors everywhere, especially now with social media and stuff
Anyway, have a great day man
I too am so far on the agreeableness spectrum that for most of my life I didn’t even know what I liked. JPs last few minutes were his most important in this video. Young people should take note of where they are temperamentally before choosing a partner. If you are highly agreeable and choose the opposite, when you hit middle age you will have a world of regret. I have seen this pattern repeatedly, “so and so is so nice, why are they with such an awful person?”
Being agreeable has its benefits, and it’s pitfalls. I guess it comes down to “know thyself” and choose your partner wisely.
welp, i just cant let yout commet sit at 9likes...uwc...
@Filipe Figueiredo I'm 37 and trying my best to come to terms with my agreeableness. It's tough man ! Thanks for your honesty in your comment.
As a moderately-agreeable person (also much to my own chagrin) watching
this is immensely helpful. I feel a lot more conscious of my own
potential pitfalls, so I want to thank you for that!
can't enough of this dude.
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Doc P's lectures are the easiest lecture to want to listen to because everything he says is absolutely fascinating and useful to know!!
Thank you for making these free to us!
Three cheers for the People's Professor!
Let him that has ears let him hear!
Did I just get shaped into a better human?
@@ME-xh5zq stop
Depends on whether you do or do not do anything with the information
If you’re passive, then yes. Yes you f*cking did.
The greatest transformation in my life came with the lessening of my agreeable traits.
That's great, what steps did u take ?
Outline of this lecture:
2:16 Danger of confusing personality traits with moral virtues.
4:56 Women are more agreeable than men.
6:40 Pros and cons of being agreeable.
6:55 Salary is correlated negatively with agreeableness.
Comment on business negotiations.
9:14 Agreeable people like to be liked.
9:35 Why personality differences between men and women exist ?
16:13 Disagreeable people.
19:04 Conscientiousness vs agreeableness
20:55 Agreeable people do not like conflict.
23:20 Regulation of aggression.
23:54 Tangent: criminals/psychopaths.
26:46 Importance of rough and tumble games.
28:52 ADHD
30:55 Your job as a parent is to make your child socially desirable by the age of 4.
32:29 Above 4 years old primary socialization with children takes place among other children.
34:23 Agreeableness range: predatory aggression vs maternal sympathy.
36:29 Liberals vs conservatives
39:26 Political correctness. Two types.
45:15 What is the best antidote to views which are simplifying the world ?
Thanks for the content list !
The anecdote about your disagreeable friend is brilliant. The difficult truths, especially the ones that hurt peoples feelings, are sometimes the most valuable!
You were better than the "therapist" I had for 1 year. She simply recommended divorce. I get you. This is amazing. I've been surely surely waiting for this Understanding; understanding is power.
I actually feel like i should be wearing a monicle after watching this. i feel so smart after listening to all this. it makes so much sense, and makes me think about things in ways ive never thought about them before. Absolutely Incredible.
You start to feel smart when you notice the information gaps
yeah you usually feel smart by having someone explain something to you
that you did not already understand yourself
because for a moment you feel like you understand it, even if you don't.
What he says about children is amazing we need to learn this early
Timestamp: 44:38 Dr. Peterson gave us all the secret sauce on how to utilize personality temperament to find your niche to 1) survive such that it isn't crossroads to your being and 2) the incentive to explore or at least be open to the counter personality to understand and possibly learn other toolsets to thrive. God bless you, Dr. Peterson for your legacy and work!
I think I'll get a degree in Psychology right here in UA-cam....
No, you need authorities, so that when you accomplish your learning in the future, some one can give you recognition and so that your skills will not loss and go in vain.
@@nathanchoi3763 doesn't matter , become your own personal phycologist
Nathan Choi knowing people can be used by many ways -no paper work needs to be involved
Not to be a grammar police BUT it’s “right here on UA-cam”
@@izzy2815 "a grammar policeman"
This gave me a whole different perspective on life.
This guy keeps awesome lectures. Everyone who is even remotely interested in anything should watch these.
I've been listening to your biblical series. You are a treasure of our generation sir.
I took and paid for Jordan's big five test, and I scored 3rd percentile on politeness lmao. But extremely high in compassion. The test was very accurate and I recommend it!
About my extremely low politeness, it said "you may respect people, but only those who deserve it, question authority/social norms, don't shy away or back down from confrontation, and tend to question others, more likely to be dominant etc." And all of that is very true.
When he's so eloquently finding his words, he looks up to the sky/ceiling and it's like he's plucking them out of the air or like he sees the words above him being given to him as he's speaking. He's truly a messenger of some sort. Alien or angel, I know not.
I recall reading somewhere that looking up and to the left (I think it was left) occurs due to a high level of engagement of the verbal section of your brain.
wow I hope you're just hyper-romantic and not insane. I mean, sure he's intelligent but calling him a supernatural messenger? Don't you think that discredits him, humanity, and reality slightly?
I mean, he's already extraordinary, why pile on?
he explained in a highly recommended interview with Patrick Bet David that he has been building a body of knowledge as a building, where he keeps adding facts and interpretations accordingly. So it seems that he picks up the information and words from ''inside the building, in the appropriate room''
I still find it amazing that I can sit here and learn this stuff for free…
high quality content for free... I agree really amazing
In all my classes I've ever had in college I've never seen a class clap like that at the end of a lecture. So awesome
Listening to this amazing lecture, while cleaning my room, that got dirty from rescuing my father from the depths.
I wish I was a student in your classroom. But these videos are great. Thank You!! 😊 for letting me in your video class to hear your brilliant thoughts and knowledge. Forever grateful.
Thank you for making this available to us Professor Peterson.
I have a sleeping disorder. The one thing that is helping me when my wife is not around is listening to this guy. Every time I listen to this, I sleep halfway. Thank you doc.
Wow. This is such important stuff. I would trade all my hours in school to have understood this in my 20s. Very very impressive lecture jordan!!!
How incredibly lucky are the students in Dr. Peterson's classes! His desire to ensure that he presents the subject at hand in the most clear and concise manner for the benefit of his students is incredible. No ego.
Why wasn't this guy my professor? I feel cheated. That's what education is supposed to be IMO.
I like how he links Political alignment to Personality. In the end, everyone is not so different from each other. And we can learn to observe the other end of the personality spectrum and assimilate, the world will be a better place.
Thank you, Jordan Peterson. This entire series has been phenomenal and this episode seemed to elevate the series exponentially.
Wishing I could see Dr. Peterson. Best therapist in the world.
I really love these lectures and I've been listening to one everyday for quite a while now and the impact it has had on my thinking is phenomenal.
That’s amazing. How do you absorb the information on this video?
@@r011ing_thunder6 I wish I could give you a protocol or a method, but honestly I'm just gifted with memory.
this guy completely shifts my perception of myself, others, the world and the human experience in general
Interesting. I’ve been watching these lectures to expand my knowledge about personality (and because I’m about to begin teaching and JP is a well-versed orator), but the rough and tumble play bit is something I can talk about in a review paper I’m working on. Always cool when the stuff I do late at night to relax is actually productive for my work!
In the outside chance anyone is curious, my lab’s theoretical position is that individual differences in the ability to control attention, and not necessarily working memory capacity (WMC) or fluid intelligence (Gf), are the primary driver of individual differences in cognition more broadly and therefore possibly the fundamental marker of cognitive ability. We think that WMC and Gf are important but that attention control is broader, and mediates (explains) the strong relationship between WMC and Gf (which can be thought of, roughly speaking, as involving the ability to maintain goal-directed information and disengage from irrelevant information, respectively, whereas attention control is involved in both). The review paper will cover several areas of research that have emphasized the role of WMC in applied settings (such as automation, education, testing, training, policing, psychopathology, sports) and argue instead that attention control can be as important if not more so in these domains, so researchers ought to invest more to study attention control’s role in these domains.
As part of the education and/or training section, we can mention the part about how engaging in “safe” roughhousing in toddlers may improve cognitive ability (specifically inhibition as Peterson & Flanders, 2015 argue, which is basically attention control) and therefore might be an alternative remediation strategy and overall better approach to improving future academic achievement in children than these ill-fated efforts to train working memory capacity/intelligence. Unfortunately, it doesn’t look like rough and tumble play can help a student once they’re school-aged, but at least we can advocate for awareness in parents engaging in this type of play as something they can do to socialize their child, curb aggressive and antisocial behavior, and, most relevant to our manuscript, potentially improve attentional abilities and help reduce the chances of the child developing ADHD and similar issues.
This is one of your best lectures! So many pieces to the puzzle in just 50 minutes. I had a revelation for every 10 minutes watching this!
This clears up so much of what goes on in relationships!
What I wouldn't haven given for this man to teach me at university.
This guy is spot on about parenting your aggressive boys. You can make them valuable members of society, given their gift of aggression. They can be protectors
I have just come across this video for the first time, although i am quite aware of Jordan Peterson and have watched many of his lectures with admiration. At roughly twenty eight minutes, he mentions the correlation between "rough and tumble" play and the effect of regulating aggresive behaviour, i wonder if he has hit upon the reasoning behind single mother parenting of boys possibly leading to crime in later life. I don,t mean this in a disrepective way to single mothers, but purely as an honest comment based on information raised elsewhere on the internet with allegations towards this.
Aggression comes whether we like it or not, better use it right
Absolutely brilliant insights into human development, psychological traits, and interpersonal relationships with practical applications that could literally improve your life.
I thank you as a father of a 2 year old.
The best part of this lecture is at the end when JBP tells us to try to learn how to use the traits that are opposite to our nature and find a role that matches our natural inclinations. Fill in the gaps in your personality. Also, do this with your choice of partner. Find someone that has some of the opposing traits but not too extreme as to lead to irreconcilable differences.
I knew a guy who said that his mother would give her children the food off her plate, and leave herself nothing for dinner. Now, years later, I understand that she was in the top 1% of agreeableness - she wanted to do for others so much that it was pathological.
Never met anyone in my search (decades) that explained this.
The beginning was powerful then began my struggle and the results were exactly as he explained.
Extremely appreciated.
HAPPINESS = NEW JBP LECTURES
I hope he is getting better...
What a wonderful lecturer. I was lucky enough to have a short number of profs this good, but its always wonderful to experience another
I literally laughed at 'disagreeable people won't do a thing they don't want to do' -- because I got 88/100 on the test for disagreeableness, and I knew it beforehand, and I do things I don't want to do ... but not often and I have to really like you and care for you or have a good reason to do so... I have things I need to get done and my day is planned out and I don't want to be interrupted, so unless you're my best friend, my husband, my mother, or my cat, I do not like to be interrupted and do things I don't want to do.
I see you do not understand statistics much
Love his descriptions.
Jordan is very precise in the way that he breaks down the complexity of personality and how it correlates to the type of job you have. Very interesting, and insightful.
I never thought I was agreeable until watching this video. Wow, I didn’t even realize I was suffering.Thank you for this video. I now at least understand why.
These are fascinating lectures. It's the insight which continually staggers me. Agreeableness is very energy intensive, as a neurotic I am many kilocalories removed from it!
High neuroticism must be tough to live with, except it can make you excellent at poetry, right?
It feels like he is teaching me life.
Still great info for us humans. I’ve been learning from the great Prof Dr J Peterson since 2016. I particularly like his lectures in the 90’s.
JBP is my hero
I don't blindly believe what he says; I even disagree with him on some things. But his teaching is powerful.
mabaker nothing wrong with having heroes. They provide impetus to act and change yourself. Which is kinda ironic in Peterson's case if you know his literature. :P
But these are facts they are being taught at school, I don't think they purely teach opinions at a university
Davis Campbell the bear!
Woo! Cult of Personality! For the Win!
He has AGED so quick this last few years, Your work is appreciated DR. J
You know the lecture's amazing when students clap at the end.
I learn something new every time I watch one of his videos, and this is the first lecture I've watched
This is absolutely fascinating.
Listening to this helped calm me down while having a horrible day at work.
According to JBP, the class ratio is 80% females and 20% males. The males, I've noticed ask questions way more than females.
This must be because women are higher on agreeablness and consciousness than men.
True
In my high school the girl ask a lot more questions than the guys, but the guys ask the more provoking question. Like girls ask for clarification, while guys ask for analysis.
Maybe it's because they're oppressed by the patriarchy and are not empowered to speak up.
I'm joking, but I don't think you're particularly on the money on that very interesting phenomenon either.
What a superb lecture from 2017, so much packed into a short space of time. I'd love to hear Dr Peterson's thoughts on extremely disorderly people who may subconsciously create the disorder in order to keep other people at arm's length. I believe this condition has been described as Diogenes Syndrome, particularly where it applies to an older person. Some people believe that Beethoven had Diogenes Syndrome. These Toronto University lectures never disappoint and we can all learn so much from them. Much appreciated.
man this lecture is so freaking useful!
the thing is I am not very good at what I do, but at this other thing I likely am really bad
Jordan Peterson saved my life and other peoples
200K subscribers! CONGRATULATIONS YOU ARE A TRUE META-HERO!
11 months later he has 987K subscribers
I've always thought I had a psychopathic mindset. Jordan Peterson confirms it at 24 minutes. This changes my life completely
Priceless to be able to hear this.
This lecture has changed me. Thank you Dr. Peterson
+Jordan B Peterson 47:45 - 48:17 This really struck a nerve with me.
I'm extremely disorderly with my home, I always have been. It was kinda beaten into me in elementary school that that was the way to go. Elementary school was so easy that I never did homework, I was actually reprimanded for making the amount I was comfortable with, which for math and native language class were the whole books the first day. I didn't need my books most of the time because in my home elementary school knowledge was common knowledge. I pretty much did what I wanted in school and had my own projects at home. As such I never really learned to form a schedule and stick to it.
Now I've got a depression because of Asperger's Syndrome. I fight against my weakness of poor social skills and it takes a toll, but it's hard not to do it. All this makes my bad habits shine through even more, it's hard to find the extra energy to deal with something "I don't notice, something that doesn't bother me"(48:06).. Living in an extremely messy home is counter-intuitive to what I want though(social equality between me and peers), so maybe I should pay more attention. Would love some advise on how to give a damn about it.
I'm not exaggerating about school and how it affected me. I've had my IQ tested and I'm north of 150, the only area the doctors and guys at Mensa could discern I'm even near average is the social intellect and that's a tad lower than average. Just like a psychopath you can meet me on the street and I can pretend to be normal, but get to know me and you'll see that I'm different, in good and bad ways. Like deliberately betraying someone's trust is a foreign concept for me, I've just never done it. On the other hand I'm so disorderly and unconscientious that I might not be able to keep a promise even if I both remembered and wanted to.
My best recommendation is to let people know that you can be pretty oblivious.
Oh clean your room, practice making and keeping a schedule a note book might help.
You had me thinking that you are on the spectrum in the first sentence of your statement here. Best advice to you is to develop a system by which you incentivize yourself to complete tasks that you know are important, but which you do not ‘feel’ are important. By allying the incentive to the task you will be able to build the dopaminergic structures in your brain that are necessary to build new habits. Good luck! You have the self-awareness to realize what you need, and that is a long way towards reaching that goal.
you're the western guru of our time. the guru of thinkery. the sultan of thought.
Agreeableness is a devastating character trait. In a world that's inherently antagonistic, adversarial and predatory, an overly disagreeable person can still succeed. An agreeable one, even one with great potential, has no hope in hell. Unless a parental or mentor figure intervenes at an early stage, they can essentially kiss their life goodbye.
This lecture and Peterson's Ted Talk on Potential are his two most important and potentially transformative videos.
but it's necessary! People just can't be all things. It's about learning when it's useful to go with your nature, and when you need to challenge yourself.
Fair points. I believe both agreeableness and disagreeableness are equally devastating personality traits. The most disagreeable amongst us are at war with everyone around them and will eventually end up - like Peterson said - in prison.
And I believe an overly agreeable person can still succeed. Not so easily in a competitive career job, sure, but are not rich relationships, a peaceful family life, less stress, better health and a clear conscience forms of success too?
Not every profession in this world is competitive. A very agreeable person is likely to be a great nurse, for example.
One of the best lectures I've watched/attended in my life
The only hero is my potential-self
MrWadeBarrett There goes my hero, watching as he goes.
Is that you, Matthew McConaughey?
Wow, I can't believe how good of a professor he is and how interesting this stuff is. I'm studying environmental sciences, I just finished my 2nd year, and I hate university, it's a spanish university, so imagine how horrible it is. I think I love science, and definitely I feel the burden of the environment, but this lecture has blown my mind away. I would love to be there and work on this as much as I love environmental sciences.
I guess I really love a lot of different things, even if I gotta choose a single one to build a career, but whatever the case is, this lecture has been fantastic
Everytime I watch one of Peterson's personality videos I take another big 5 test.
I’m pretty sure it’s only useful the first time you take it. Edit: accurate is probably a better word
Amazing Story. While I am saddened by your extended suffering. I am thrilled at your perseverance and ability to sort this trial out. You must indeed be a remarkable Woman. Thank you for sharing your story.
My agreeableness makes my life so fucking hard. Damn it, I love you Jordan
Being high on agreeableness is not the problem if you work in cooperative environment as opposed to competitive disagreeable environment. If you are agreeable, stay away from nasty parasitic people.
scph-9000 actually over agreeable is an internal struggle, hell if you will. You are always seeing everyone’s perspective, trying to keep everyone happy. It has little to do with one’s external environment. It keeps a person in a continuous bind, and inhibits intimacy because you have a hard time letting anyone see your true self. So it lessens your honesty. It is emotional hell.
How is it that I'm 40 and I'm just finding you, Dr. Peterson? You rock, seriously. I'm learning so much. Thank you.
This is some amazing stuff, I'm so happy I found this channel. Wish I could attend one of your lectures!
Women can be taught assertiveness skills for career advancement and other benefits. Men can learn strategies and skills to get along better in groups and teams. But - they have to know about traits, their traits and have access to appropriate training. Traits are not destiny unless you stumble along blindly. Dr. Peterson is providing both the knowledge and the straight talk that is usually missing in institutional programs.
Congrats on 200k subs.
holy crap, I didn't even notice it had gotten that high. This channel has exploded
moonasha how many did he have previous to his bill c16 speech?
dunno. But he started October with less than 10k
M Seaborn I drive uber and tonight I talked to someone who listens to him.
Now, two months later, it's 292k.
Excellent. Summary of traits generally characteristic of each of the Big Five. Thank you, Dr. Peterson.
"Agreeable people often dont even know what they want, cause theyre so accustomed to living for other people that its harder for them to find a sense of their own desire of how to move through life"
fuck me man
Listening to him go into depth about childhood rejection brought me to tears. Bc ive seen it and experienced it.