Downspout drainage System - 2 Mistakes -
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- Опубліковано 21 жов 2017
- When installing a gutter downspout drainage system be sure to avoid some of the common mistakes made. Remember, a gutter downspout system is a containment system. Designed to capture and convey water from your gutter downspouts and discharge that water to an appropriate area.
In this how to install gutter downspout drainage system video I go over, and show 2 common mistakes made when gutter drainage systems are installed. I also show the correct methods and tools used to install the drainage system. Underground gutter drainage should incorporate the use of solid pipe. Never use perforated pipe, of any type, for you gutter downspout system. Also, when bringing the system to daylight make sure the water from the system is not discharged in an area that could cause other problems.
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Wow. What a beautiful house at 12:06!
yep I have caught this issue my self folks using drain tile pipe with holes for gutter discharge .Here you can not discharge water 4 ft or less next a neighbors property .
YOU, SIR... Are the DRAIN MAIN MAN!
Your helper was working hard. Show him more.
Mike Winn oh I’ll show him...show him more hard work in 109 degree heat. With no water.
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I would recommend getting rid of the stones at 9:50 and fill with dirt. Also, cut slots in the black edging so water doesn't pool so close to the house.
I'm confused as to what I should put in the trench with the pipe. Should I place rocks, fabric wrap, I mean it's not perforated so will weeds still get in there? I have 3 down spouts and I plan to put 3 basins. Two 9 inch basins on two of the downspouts and a 6 in basin along the path to the discharge/emitter.
Good video. I have completely converted over to using SDR35 pipe (or pvc but it's pricier). I will not use corrugated at all anymore.
And, yep, perforated pipe of any kind is a big no no for containment systems.
Matthew McKinney thanks Matthew. Yes pricier and harder to install. The one section of pipe on the footer turns a 5 min connection using corrugated pipe into 30 min job using solid pvc pipe. Cut this, cut that, this elbow and that elbow 😂
Very true. Corrugated is much easier to use. I just am not sure about its longevity compared to hard pipe. But I suppose it just comes down to how much the client is willing to pay at the end of the day. haha
Longevity and very good water movement for debris push out...top 2 reasons to use solid PVC pipe!
I have SDR 35 as well. Sched 40 is a bit overkill for certain applications. Never use corrugated.
Someone please teach that man how to use a maddox. Lol. We use the pick end 1st and let the tools weight do all the work. That was some serious output for a tool that can literally break ground like no other hand tool ive ever used. Great video guys, thanks
Honestly Nate nah. That’s the problem with kid these days, mom and dad want to do everything for them. He’ll figure it out after a few more sore back problems and some blisters. Andddd you ain’t breaking that soil with just the weight of the tool. He’s throwing it down and can hardly break it, lovely Arkansas shale / clay soils
In my experience many cities and states do not allow discharge into the storm sewer because it overwhelms their system in the event of a storm. Many projects we landscape are required to hold the rainwater of a 100 year storm on site.
Carson Jensen not in our area. And if a 100 yr storm is the holding requirement...no one could afford the cost. These are residential homes.
In our town they highly encourage it. If you are willing to pay the freight and have a bonded drain layer do the final tie-in, they love it because there’s less surface water annoying the crap out of everyone
Here in Connecticut too, it is very difficult to get approval for emptying your private property water into City storm drains, if they even do allow anymore. I haven't even asked in ten years because of the response from City officials. And if caught doing so.... Huge fines. The storm drains are not built to handle all that excess!! And also, I've been told by many engineers and others in the field of laying pavers( we specialize in that also) , that pretty much every where , municipality's are all heading towards making it so each property will be responsible for containing any and all run off from ones property, on that property. This will be fact very soon. Especially because of contamination of water. Pollution.
Robert Magyar where do your city officials think the run off on someone’s property ends up? The surface runoff from a roof eventually makes its way to the street, if the property is correctly sloped at the 3% rate which is recommended. The original comment stated holding enough water for a 100 yr storm event?!? Do you know, or I questions if he has a clue, how big a system that would need to be!! I can tell you now it would be cost prohibitive to any residential client.
I think the original commenter is confused and got his codes and requirements confused. Many cities are going to the first flush rule. Which requires you to hold the fist 100 to 300 gallons of a rain event on your property. This is because during the first 15-30min of a storm the largest amount of containment’s can be found in the initial run-off from that rain-event.
Slight Return pay the freight? Are you shipping the water out of state.
You said that you tied several (3?) lines together in the back of the property. How many can you tie in to a 4" corrugated pipe connected to a pop-up end?
JJ Deadhead that would depend on the total surface area to be drained. One of these downspouts was from a very small porch area. If I remember correctly there was less than 1200 total sq ft being drained from all the downspouts. There was only a small portion of this system that was corrugated pipe. The rest (120 ft) was solid pvc pipe. The flow rate of any pipe can be increased by increasing the pitch of the pipe. 4” solid pvc was more than sufficient for this system.
I may have been doing it wrong all these years but I have found a mattock to work far more effectively when facing the opposite direction. The downswing drives the mattock into the soil and lifting it up pries the soil towards you, rather than trying to drive the mattock under the soil and having to lift it another 45° or farther to pry the lump of soil out. Bottom line, it looks like you are working a lot harder than you have to, wasting energy.
Joseph Killeen next time I’ll have my son sit and watch you use your technique. I’ll give you heads up on the next job that needs to be hand dug. Talk about saving energy using that technique
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Can I use 4" pvc to direct two gutter downspouts about 15 feet off the back of the home. I got water weeping through the back porch slab after hard rains. Plus my swimming pool is right next to this area and the deck has already slid back from the pool over 30 years.
ChrisXCXCX yes absolutely. That is what we most commonly use to tie into gutter down spouts.
Should i use a pop up or one of those grated things for the water to come out at the end?
ChrisXCXCX you can use which ever is available to you. Neither has an advantage over the other. They both work 👍
I prefer to use pop ups when I do installs. My reason is that I seems to help limit debris that may fall into the drain pipe. How ever I try and run the drain system to a ditch or a storm drain system upon approval and proper permits depending on where you live
resident hillbilly yes pop ups are best. I don’t remember why we didn’t install one in this system. Probably didn’t have one, so we used the grate
I don't understand the use of silicone and screws to hold stuff together. Use pvc cement.
Christopher Charron have you ever used silicone? Or are you basing your thought process on the assumption? I use both silicone and pvc. And they work. Both. I’ve used it for 8 years (silicone) and not one has separated or leaks, to this day. The homeowner, or DIY might actually find some advantages of using silicone as compared to glue. Which I will go over in a upcoming video.
And regardless if you use silicone or glue you should always screw the adaptor to the guttering. If not...this happens.
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Stephen Schindler you do not understand do you? Plz refer to the pictures I referred to in the above link. You MUST screw the adapter to the gutter. If you don’t...you will regret it. You cannot glue the adapter to the gutter. Nor can you silicone it. You screw it.
Yeah not understanding silicone in the PVC joint.. obviously you would screw the gutter to PVC fitting but I have never seen anyone use silicone in a schedule 40 joint. I guess it doesn't need to follow plumbing codes or best practices but personally I would want to use the tried and tested method of connecting PVC plumbing.
What size screw do you use for the connector joints?
Quarter inch in most cases. And sometimes a half inch. Always secure the downspout adaptor to the gutter using a screw. If you don’t, it will separate eventually.
Would just glue not work?
Pvc primer / cement
Do you need building permit for buried downspout drainage work? Did you call to 811 to figure out where is your utilities lines gose underground?
no rt in our area you do not need a permit. There are permit requirements for your discharge location. Yes. All utilities were located before hand.
Check your local area codes for any permits you might have. I have video titled “drainage permit requirements “. It might help you some.
Thanks.
@@Bellislawns thanks for fast asnswer! What should i pay for 811 service?
no rt 811 is free. Understand they will not locate private lines (in most cases). Such as those coming off the main line to the home. This would be water, and in some cases gas. Ask them for help as to which lines they will not mark.
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Never get building permits, it's a scam.
Is it OK to do 20' or so of french drain, and then let them flow into the same pipe that I want to tie my downspouts into? I've got 3 downspouts on about 650 sq feet of roof. It will all be run into a storm sewer in the front corner of my yard. I figured I would want to split the french drains and 1 downspout into one 4" pipe, and the other 2 downspouts into another 4". Or tie them all into a single 6"?
Andy Kilmer the water flow capacity of pipe relates to slope. The greater the slope the greater water capacity of the pipe. A 4” pipe at 4% slope has a greater gpm flow than the same pipe size set at 1% slope. So, you might be able to skip the 6” pipe if the slope is great enough.
It’s okay to tie downspout drain lines into a French drain discharge line -only. Never tie directly into the French drain section of the system with downspout drain lines.
Andy Kilmer Has was
And instead of drying water out it was letting more water in because of the perforated pipe that's stupid along the foundation.
How deep do you go
Frank Davila this is a gutter downspout drain line installation. In most situations, for these type of systems, the depth is going to be 6”- 8”’ deep.
Is that dirt he’s chopping at or concrete?😅
Need to watch Apple Drains.
Peter Bergeris yeah. So I can learn how water movers up hill in two Tupperware bowls, or tell clients 6 “ catch basins are the way to go only because I don’t want to dig the proper depth to install a 12” catch basin. I do watch. So I can be reminded what not to do.
How deep were the PVC pipe buried next to the house ?
6"-8" inches. This is not a French drain. It is getter downspout drain lines.
B&B Drainage Solutions Thank you for your videos , if I haven't seen them before , I would have make a French drain connected to my downspout buried next to my foundation. I will do more research on getter downspout drain.
Jose Reyes good luck on your project. Feel free to ask any.questions!
What’s your background? Where did you go to school to offer advice? Billy Bobs school of driving trucks?
Tug_Slug put a shirt on. No one trying to see man boobs 😂😂😂
Looks like with that clown picture you got you are used to taking bad advice. Guess you came to the right place!!!
What kind of tape is that black tape? Looks like oversized electrical tape lol
Don’t do much drainage do you 🤪🙄🤪
Google Christy pipe tape. Then come back and tell us what you learned.
One of our pipes is resting directly on a gas line. We almost made a real mistake.
What if the gutter downspout system was also acting as a French drain?
You still don't use perforated pipe from downspout to French drain
Dig the trench out so you can have both. Dump the tubes into a collection point underground(big plastic bucket things) then on the opposite side keep the water moving out to discharge point.
Was that black electrical tape...is that waterproof?
Michelle Hood it’s called pipe wrap. It’s for the application, unlike duck tape which is not, and the manufacturer claims it to be waterproof. There are several brands to choose from, and most irrigation supply companies like Ewing carry them.
I can appreciate hard work but your working way to hard in the intro!
oregon gold hunter nothing hard about it. Other than the good old Arkansas soil. It’s for the weak.
Lol I need to get you mining you would be successful at it with that attitude. Love your video , thank you!
oregon gold hunter the hell with that. That’s below grade 😂😂😂
To BB Solutions: Should you be recording, taking and driving at the same time? Mistakes can happen to anyone at any time, even to the more confident and cock-sure. When I see you or anyone does this, I just tune them the f... out.
eddyvideostar you sound boring and far from being a video star 😂
B&B Drainage Solutions: With your talent and industriousness, you could relax, park, be stationary, and record. Everyone watching your videos can stay abreast and attuned to what you are referring to without the distraction of your doing the naughty. I realize that you have put much effort into your business project. You could also try to garner more support for your work, by turning people on, and tuning them into the proper channels of delivery.
And, true, I am far from being a video star, you are correct, for the only thing I have to offer is my smooth talking, smooth typing -- and the attributes that would sent me to underground Hollywood in order to pursue my real calling: being a virile viral video star.
BB is doing it hands-free. I'm not sure how distracting talking while driving is for you videostar, but you might consider unclenching a little.
The music is so loud I can't hear you talking.
sandra johnson had a audio problem. I mention it at the beginning of the video. This isn’t Hollywood productions...we on a beer budget over here 😂😂😂
The music is only in the beginning of that portion which the audio is messed up ;)
First mistake was not renting a power trencher
Kevin Cody for the lazy
@@Bellislawns That would be me
Never use electrical tape 🤦♂️
All that nothing learned
Too much talking….you put us to sleep. And what a genius idea to show case what you’ve done AFTER the fact 🤦🏻♂️
Never use corrugated garbage. Total waste of money😂😂😂😂