The worst part about learning/lvl'ing a tank isnt the class nor the buttons to push. Its the "YOU SUCK!", "GO FASTER!", "BIGGER PULLS!" kids screaming in Timewalking dungeons. The Hunter thats running ahead and pulling -everything- MD'ing to you. And the mage and retri paladin that doesnt give you more than 1,5 second to get 2000% threat before they go apesh!t crazy with DPS pulling aggro on everything you're trying to tank. My best advise if you wanna try/learn tanking is doing it with friends and not randoms.
If you plan on learning in timewalking youre setting yourself up for failure. Time walking is literally a race to get finished because everyone is using it to level. If you want to learn Id recommend TWW dungeons. If youre doing timewalking for more exp you have to understand why ppl are there
As Graavytrain said, I recommend running War Within dungeons to learn. You should be pulling big in Timewalking. Those are all old mechanics anyways and not any of the tank mechanics you’ll actually be dealing with in the modern game. People are in Timewalking to level faster, so you can’t be surprised when they want to speed run.
I enjoy my Brewmaster, even though (or because?) I don't tank at the highest difficulties. Been playing the game since the beginning, and I find that the passive mitigation afforded by Stagger can be very forgiving due to its reactive nature. When the amount of damage queued up in the stagger bar starts to be a concern, we can just delete big chunks and pretend that it never happened. It can heal, absorb, and mitigate damage. Fairly well rounded. Folks talk about button bloat, but it's fairly simple to break into. Keg Smash and set baddies on fire. Two different ways to kick them in the face for good measure. Then spend excess energy on either a punch to the jaw or a third spinning kick for AoE. Utilize your "tank" buttons as needed while using those DPS-type buttons.
Blood DK imo is the most fun tank to learn and master. Mechanically complex but on the surface is a quite simple if you take time to learn how the spec functions. A skilled Blood player will often feel immortal once the plates are spinning. Playing Blood is a mini-game in itself of micromanaging cooldowns, buffs and resources. With a minimal amount of external damage reduction from healer, they will never need to heal you. With the 4-set bonus, bone shield regen is passive. Do yourself a favor and avoid class discords for tanks. They will mislead you into thinking that simming for damage talents and trinkets is important in mythic+ (it’s not). These guys often spend more time with theory than actual practice.
9 yo me fell in love with blood DK back when DK’s were basically dps/tanks on all three specs in WoTLK and then cata came around and had me thinking, « this spec is the funniest sh*t ever invented by blizzard ». As you said it is easy to pick up but just how obnoxiously good the class is when mastered has imo never been matched by any spec in the game. You’re virtually unkillable, amazing in PVE, same in PVP, the utility you bring with cc and allowing heals to slack off a bit is also fantastic in raid. Love what they did with the talent trees as well. All things considered one of the most fun and consistent classes throughout the years 💪🏽
I played Warcraft in 2004 and quit. I just started again with my 9yo and 7yo and chose Blood DK so that we could romp around without a healer. So happy I went with this class.
One of the best advice for people new to tanking (and even more so if you’re new to the game) would be NOT to start your journey on a dh tank as if you fuck up you turn to ashes in a few seconds. Also, tanking is not as hard as you think, fearing it will be what makes it harder. Start with normal mode dungeons, pull little packs of mobs, go slow, take it easy, you will get used to it and will eventually limit test by pulling way too many mobs and still survive like a boss. So don’t fear it, you’ll see that it is very rewarding when you’ll know your spec :) have fun !
Go at a pace you are comfortable with as a tank? Do you want the DPS to lose their minds and run ahead overpulling because you are being too slow? Everyone knows that tanks aren't actually real people. They are NPCs whose only purpose is to pull the whole dungeon so you can do fat deeps.
when i was leveling my prot warrior i couldnt even do any quests before the dungeon que poped and now im trying to lvl up an enhancement shaman and it takes 50 years to get intoo a dungeon
@@rev0lutionary1follower dungeons are a good start just do those til you feel confident with doing your regular rotation then do some random dungeons don't worry about not knowing where to go most of the time the other members will run ahead to where you're supposed to go so just follow behind them start practicing popping CDs thats not part of your rotation for situations you might need it like if you see your health is low pop a CD that heals you or if you feel squishy pop a CD that increases your defenses you'll have at least one of each as part of your main rotation but it doesn't hurt to just pop the others ones whilst they're on CD themselves you'll get the hang of it eventually and if you're part of a guild try asking them to help you practice
i had some shit tanks that had no clue wtf they where doing so i said to my self fuck it fuck it ill do it myself u learn when to press defensive and stuff by playing go slow at the begin dont pull big if u dont feel confident with your healler. If healer gives u the ok...go do big pulls but since u will be new i dont sugest it since u are new i sugest u to get some weak auras and some addons for dungeons and raids just so u know when to taunt swap or press your defensive
Guardian Druid. Easiest tank by far. Spam thrash and iron fur and occasionally frenzied regen if healer sucks or you take spike dmg. There ya go thats the TLDR; prot warrior is no super easy. Been playing for 20 years with five more in other mmorpgs before wow. When to use spell block, other abilities and planning ahead are things you need to do as a prot warrior. Meanwhile bear is almost like sleepwalking through content. Pally is good early on and when you are well geared but in the early end game it can be a bit squishy because they don’t have all the block mechanics of a warrior or the higher hp of a bear. Brew is good but more complicated with stagger mechanic. I have literally died because I could not clear my stagger because I got stunned at the wrong time. DH isn’t hard but needs a little more planning. More movement involved.
Prot Pally has been my favourite tank for some time now, definitely very easy to play and has some good survivability . (Throw shield and cast cds ) I’ve been considering a second tank and I think you’ve convinced me to play blood dk, it looks fun!
I also recommend Pala instead of BDK for beginners. It forgives more errors than BDK and is great for PUGs (let alone the option to be the king of interrupts and heal others in the group).
bdk is fun but its stressful af. Managing runic power and death strikes and watching you health bar go from 100% to 10% to 100% over and over again is crazy. If you like that, you will enjoy it
I'm a long time Havoc main who learned Vengeance DH this expansion and I'm having a lot of fun tanking. I feel more useful to my guild with the ability to flex roles and the faster queues are nice too.
I play Prot Pally because I don't trust my PUG to use CC or interrupts. I can also help the healer out with self-healing and the odd clutch heal thrown onto a DPS that won't get out of the stupid.
I agree that warrior has very intuitive spells, but playing prot on a high level can be very punishing. You absolutely have to have shield block up for 100%. The way the rage of a warrior works makes it very easy to get baited into spending too much rage, tho, and as a result having none for shield block. Managing your rage is the true difficulty of prot. It's very different to bear, where you can just infinitelly spam your generators, use iron fur off the global CD and whenever your rage bar fills a bit too much, you just press a spender. You'll never struggle to generate or overcap rage as a bear. What makes it even more punishing is, that warriors have great passive mitigation, but compared to other tanks little tools to be independend. Which means when shit goes south, it goes south.
I’ve been tanking pugs for years, I loved it and still do. I’m skipping this season. The affixes are not pug friendly. The dungeons are not pug friendly. Pugs are not friendly. I’m enjoying delves 😅 where it’s just me, myself and my own. I hope next season would be better.
I can imagine 2/3 of those are going to be better unfortunately, the community issue is not something Bliz can fix with a single patch. that is 20 years of damage they need to undo on that one and Pugs not being friendly is primarily a community issue
@@The0nlyy yeah… the affixes in TBC were easier than these. Still the problem remains. What? You never had a mage dying twice and people complaining about 30 seconds away from the counter, starting to insult each other and leave? Do you think that 15s penalty is good for pugs, people you don’t know and don’t care?
Im new to tank recently reroll from dps. im playing bear is fun and easy, and now i want to try warrior since tanking with Big Shield looks awesome. Cheers great content as always
I like arcane bear because you don't need to spend fury on ravage, so you can just ooga booga ironfur spam, like so: #showtooltip /cast thrash /cast ironfur #showtooltip /cast mangle /cast ironfur #showtooltip /cast swipe /cast ironfur
To me Tanking is more of a knowledge check of the dungeon/Raid your running more than the class your playing, because in the end most classes have CD's equivellant to others. Sure others may be easier to pick up which i dont necesarily think is prot warrior but we all gotta start somewhere.
Can you tell the "you can't do much wrong" to our warrior guild tank? I once tried to do a weekly with him and he dropped randomly like a stone and we didn't even time an 8+ with him. :D (he has 622 ilvl btw, not an ilvl where tanking 8+ should be any problem)
Wait wait, does wow have any evolving armor? I saw that intro and I’ve never wanted anything more 😂 big fan of gw2 legendary armor changing when in combat
Tanked last 2 df seasons and played to 3k, honestly i’d rather sit on a electric chair than listen any dps whine who are oblivious what’s happening around them lol. My tip to new people is to stay away from m+ high keys, since no matter what happens, it’s the tanks fault🤷🏼♂️
It’s not difficult to keep spikes and immo aura up, when you’re going into demon form every 30 seconds. I’d rather have more self healing like last season over more DR.
@@The0nlyy every pull you should be able to lead with dancing rune weapon and vampiric blood. Then you blood boil and roll from there with your rotation. If you are rolling tombstone and bone storm during pulls dancing rune weapon should be up for most packs. Also make sure you use ams as much as you need to to mitigate casters. On really dangerous pulls also weave icebound fortitude and lichborne. The biggest thing to remember is always have bone shield up as you approach a pack and a defensive. You are insanely squishy until you start going. Also upgrade your gear using runed crests. Higher ilvl means more health and armor.
I love to tank but not in rnd grp. In every grp you will find a dps who pulls and pulls because he has a proc or youre to lame. Also dont look at healers mana and then the fun for me is over -.- I tank for my friends and have fun
People are really mlg at complaining back in the day we where happy to just have a healer we never complained unless they where over the top bad ofc but we helped the healer to heal by not pulling the whole instance and communication was key that was the same for tanks aswell ofc but now no one talks unless they complain and they kick tanks and healers just becuse of one wipe its expectations is over the top and people need to get over themself's really if they are so pro at it they should roll a tank or healer but they dont becuse they are to scared to be critiquet lol
blood death knight tank is s tier! by far! healers can ignore me entirley and i can solo raid content or tier 9 delves! druids are squishy as fuck even with gear. i can still get one shotted, also healers have the fastest ques!
Tanking is way easier now than it used to be. I'd say bear is the best starter tank because it really is so simple. Personally my favorite is Brewmaster, it's actually a lot easier than people make it out to be.
The worst part about learning/lvl'ing a tank isnt the class nor the buttons to push. Its the "YOU SUCK!", "GO FASTER!", "BIGGER PULLS!" kids screaming in Timewalking dungeons. The Hunter thats running ahead and pulling -everything- MD'ing to you. And the mage and retri paladin that doesnt give you more than 1,5 second to get 2000% threat before they go apesh!t crazy with DPS pulling aggro on everything you're trying to tank. My best advise if you wanna try/learn tanking is doing it with friends and not randoms.
If you plan on learning in timewalking youre setting yourself up for failure. Time walking is literally a race to get finished because everyone is using it to level. If you want to learn Id recommend TWW dungeons. If youre doing timewalking for more exp you have to understand why ppl are there
Literally follower dungeons. The level 10 tanks in timewalking are rushing through killing faster than I can dps
As Graavytrain said, I recommend running War Within dungeons to learn. You should be pulling big in Timewalking. Those are all old mechanics anyways and not any of the tank mechanics you’ll actually be dealing with in the modern game. People are in Timewalking to level faster, so you can’t be surprised when they want to speed run.
i hate those people like if you want to set the pace then you go play tank if not then im setting the pace
I enjoy my Brewmaster, even though (or because?) I don't tank at the highest difficulties. Been playing the game since the beginning, and I find that the passive mitigation afforded by Stagger can be very forgiving due to its reactive nature. When the amount of damage queued up in the stagger bar starts to be a concern, we can just delete big chunks and pretend that it never happened. It can heal, absorb, and mitigate damage. Fairly well rounded.
Folks talk about button bloat, but it's fairly simple to break into. Keg Smash and set baddies on fire. Two different ways to kick them in the face for good measure. Then spend excess energy on either a punch to the jaw or a third spinning kick for AoE. Utilize your "tank" buttons as needed while using those DPS-type buttons.
I have tried and i just cannot get myself to play monk 😅 it just doesn't make sense to me
Blood DK imo is the most fun tank to learn and master. Mechanically complex but on the surface is a quite simple if you take time to learn how the spec functions. A skilled Blood player will often feel immortal once the plates are spinning.
Playing Blood is a mini-game in itself of micromanaging cooldowns, buffs and resources. With a minimal amount of external damage reduction from healer, they will never need to heal you. With the 4-set bonus, bone shield regen is passive.
Do yourself a favor and avoid class discords for tanks. They will mislead you into thinking that simming for damage talents and trinkets is important in mythic+ (it’s not). These guys often spend more time with theory than actual practice.
9 yo me fell in love with blood DK back when DK’s were basically dps/tanks on all three specs in WoTLK and then cata came around and had me thinking, « this spec is the funniest sh*t ever invented by blizzard ». As you said it is easy to pick up but just how obnoxiously good the class is when mastered has imo never been matched by any spec in the game. You’re virtually unkillable, amazing in PVE, same in PVP, the utility you bring with cc and allowing heals to slack off a bit is also fantastic in raid. Love what they did with the talent trees as well. All things considered one of the most fun and consistent classes throughout the years 💪🏽
I played Warcraft in 2004 and quit. I just started again with my 9yo and 7yo and chose Blood DK so that we could romp around without a healer. So happy I went with this class.
Same dude, loving BDK right now. This iteration is amazing. Easily most difficult tank, close to VDH though I'd say
One of the best advice for people new to tanking (and even more so if you’re new to the game) would be NOT to start your journey on a dh tank as if you fuck up you turn to ashes in a few seconds. Also, tanking is not as hard as you think, fearing it will be what makes it harder. Start with normal mode dungeons, pull little packs of mobs, go slow, take it easy, you will get used to it and will eventually limit test by pulling way too many mobs and still survive like a boss. So don’t fear it, you’ll see that it is very rewarding when you’ll know your spec :) have fun !
Go at a pace you are comfortable with as a tank? Do you want the DPS to lose their minds and run ahead overpulling because you are being too slow?
Everyone knows that tanks aren't actually real people. They are NPCs whose only purpose is to pull the whole dungeon so you can do fat deeps.
DH and DK are the worst options for new players.
Unfortunately as someone trying to learn to tank. Out of the 30 or so dungeons I have done, I have had 1 group that let me go at my own pace.
when i was leveling my prot warrior i couldnt even do any quests before the dungeon que poped and now im trying to lvl up an enhancement shaman and it takes 50 years to get intoo a dungeon
How did you get into tanking. I want to learn but I’m anxious
@@rev0lutionary1follower dungeons are a good start just do those til you feel confident with doing your regular rotation then do some random dungeons don't worry about not knowing where to go most of the time the other members will run ahead to where you're supposed to go so just follow behind them start practicing popping CDs thats not part of your rotation for situations you might need it like if you see your health is low pop a CD that heals you or if you feel squishy pop a CD that increases your defenses you'll have at least one of each as part of your main rotation but it doesn't hurt to just pop the others ones whilst they're on CD themselves you'll get the hang of it eventually and if you're part of a guild try asking them to help you practice
The story of a tank xD
i had some shit tanks that had no clue wtf they where doing so i said to my self fuck it fuck it ill do it myself u learn when to press defensive and stuff by playing go slow at the begin dont pull big if u dont feel confident with your healler. If healer gives u the ok...go do big pulls but since u will be new i dont sugest it since u are new i sugest u to get some weak auras and some addons for dungeons and raids just so u know when to taunt swap or press your defensive
Guardian Druid. Easiest tank by far. Spam thrash and iron fur and occasionally frenzied regen if healer sucks or you take spike dmg. There ya go thats the TLDR;
prot warrior is no super easy. Been playing for 20 years with five more in other mmorpgs before wow.
When to use spell block, other abilities and planning ahead are things you need to do as a prot warrior. Meanwhile bear is almost like sleepwalking through content. Pally is good early on and when you are well geared but in the early end game it can be a bit squishy because they don’t have all the block mechanics of a warrior or the higher hp of a bear.
Brew is good but more complicated with stagger mechanic. I have literally died because I could not clear my stagger because I got stunned at the wrong time.
DH isn’t hard but needs a little more planning. More movement involved.
Prot Pally has been my favourite tank for some time now, definitely very easy to play and has some good survivability . (Throw shield and cast cds ) I’ve been considering a second tank and I think you’ve convinced me to play blood dk, it looks fun!
I also recommend Pala instead of BDK for beginners. It forgives more errors than BDK and is great for PUGs (let alone the option to be the king of interrupts and heal others in the group).
bdk is fun but its stressful af. Managing runic power and death strikes and watching you health bar go from 100% to 10% to 100% over and over again is crazy. If you like that, you will enjoy it
I'm a long time Havoc main who learned Vengeance DH this expansion and I'm having a lot of fun tanking. I feel more useful to my guild with the ability to flex roles and the faster queues are nice too.
100%, more players should be like you!
I miss the days Blood DK tanks could pop Lichborn then Death Coil themselves for some crazy healing.
I play Prot Pally because I don't trust my PUG to use CC or interrupts. I can also help the healer out with self-healing and the odd clutch heal thrown onto a DPS that won't get out of the stupid.
Really appreciate your videos! Got back into WoW after a break and these videos are very educational and entertaining. Keep up the good work!
I agree that warrior has very intuitive spells, but playing prot on a high level can be very punishing. You absolutely have to have shield block up for 100%. The way the rage of a warrior works makes it very easy to get baited into spending too much rage, tho, and as a result having none for shield block.
Managing your rage is the true difficulty of prot. It's very different to bear, where you can just infinitelly spam your generators, use iron fur off the global CD and whenever your rage bar fills a bit too much, you just press a spender. You'll never struggle to generate or overcap rage as a bear.
What makes it even more punishing is, that warriors have great passive mitigation, but compared to other tanks little tools to be independend. Which means when shit goes south, it goes south.
I’ve been tanking pugs for years, I loved it and still do. I’m skipping this season. The affixes are not pug friendly. The dungeons are not pug friendly. Pugs are not friendly.
I’m enjoying delves 😅 where it’s just me, myself and my own.
I hope next season would be better.
True, it's particularly difficult this season around
I can imagine 2/3 of those are going to be better
unfortunately, the community issue is not something Bliz can fix with a single patch. that is 20 years of damage they need to undo on that one
and Pugs not being friendly is primarily a community issue
These affixes are 100% easier than Dragonflight dude…
@@The0nlyy yeah… the affixes in TBC were easier than these. Still the problem remains. What? You never had a mage dying twice and people complaining about 30 seconds away from the counter, starting to insult each other and leave? Do you think that 15s penalty is good for pugs, people you don’t know and don’t care?
Im new to tank recently reroll from dps. im playing bear is fun and easy, and now i want to try warrior since tanking with Big Shield looks awesome. Cheers great content as always
You should try out Blood DK if you want an engaging mechanic experience.
in a similar boat, but starting out with blood DK
it's been...stressful trying to keep things going while also surviving
I like arcane bear because you don't need to spend fury on ravage, so you can just ooga booga ironfur spam, like so:
#showtooltip
/cast thrash
/cast ironfur
#showtooltip
/cast mangle
/cast ironfur
#showtooltip
/cast swipe
/cast ironfur
I played brewmaster in the past and got really good. I absolutely suck at it now
You should do a deep dive into BrewMaster and its current flaws. Maybe Blizzard will listen to you and buff it up to at least decent.
The yoyo of the dk healthbar is crazy😂😂😂😂
Im surprised pally isn't on the list
To me Tanking is more of a knowledge check of the dungeon/Raid your running more than the class your playing, because in the end most classes have CD's equivellant to others. Sure others may be easier to pick up which i dont necesarily think is prot warrior but we all gotta start somewhere.
Yes, pull big in timewalking dungeons, no one does them for fun. We do them for the gear so lets hurry that up okay? I say this as a tank main
The only difficult part of being a tank is dealing with the entitled and/or idiot players (mostly dps) who will blame you for their mistakes
as a bdk main id say guardian is the easiest tank, just macro ironfur into thrash and mangle lmao
Can you tell the "you can't do much wrong" to our warrior guild tank? I once tried to do a weekly with him and he dropped randomly like a stone and we didn't even time an 8+ with him. :D (he has 622 ilvl btw, not an ilvl where tanking 8+ should be any problem)
Even the easiest class needs some kind of understanding what you doing.
I have a friend like that too. He is just stupid there is nothing you can do.
check his ignore pain uptime
Who is spending hours filling their dungeon? Unless you’re doing a +0 I have never waited more than 10-15 minutes to fill a party lol
Been tanking since BC but this season has me being a solo quester as Dps
Monk hands down is the funnest but so needs a tuning pass
Wait wait, does wow have any evolving armor? I saw that intro and I’ve never wanted anything more 😂 big fan of gw2 legendary armor changing when in combat
It is warrior.
Have a nice day
the best is prot pally, you are the tank healer and dps all at the same time
Tanked last 2 df seasons and played to 3k, honestly i’d rather sit on a electric chair than listen any dps whine who are oblivious what’s happening around them lol. My tip to new people is to stay away from m+ high keys, since no matter what happens, it’s the tanks fault🤷🏼♂️
BLIZZ!!!!! More Love to DH Tank PLS, we need more dmg reduce CD
Just have to kite.
Agreed!
It’s not difficult to keep spikes and immo aura up, when you’re going into demon form every 30 seconds.
I’d rather have more self healing like last season over more DR.
the fact that Vengeance DH isn't even on here says a lot
I play all tank specs and I agree with him. VDH and Brew are the hardest to get right.
I actually enjoy tanking mythic plus and currently enjoy doint it on Vengeance DH and Blood DK.
What key levels? I’m 613 ilvl DK and get squashed on 8s
@The0nlyy I run 8s and 9s. You have to know how to begin each pull. Once you have that it's a breeze
@@pyramus7958 I’m 612 DK and feel insanely squishy (one shot territory) in 7s but I’ll keep grinding I guess!
@@The0nlyy every pull you should be able to lead with dancing rune weapon and vampiric blood. Then you blood boil and roll from there with your rotation. If you are rolling tombstone and bone storm during pulls dancing rune weapon should be up for most packs. Also make sure you use ams as much as you need to to mitigate casters. On really dangerous pulls also weave icebound fortitude and lichborne. The biggest thing to remember is always have bone shield up as you approach a pack and a defensive. You are insanely squishy until you start going. Also upgrade your gear using runed crests. Higher ilvl means more health and armor.
I love to tank but not in rnd grp. In every grp you will find a dps who pulls and pulls because he has a proc or youre to lame. Also dont look at healers mana and then the fun for me is over -.- I tank for my friends and have fun
Tanks for that :)
People are really mlg at complaining back in the day we where happy to just have a healer we never complained unless they where over the top bad ofc but we helped the healer to heal by not pulling the whole instance and communication was key that was the same for tanks aswell ofc but now no one talks unless they complain and they kick tanks and healers just becuse of one wipe its expectations is over the top and people need to get over themself's really if they are so pro at it they should roll a tank or healer but they dont becuse they are to scared to be critiquet lol
Skill issue
As blood dk I like being an S tier healer
Barkskin? Laughs in fiery brand
*cries in Vengeance.
blood death knight tank is s tier! by far! healers can ignore me entirley and i can solo raid content or tier 9 delves! druids are squishy as fuck even with gear. i can still get one shotted, also healers have the fastest ques!
I think ima pick up my Blood DK again but ill keep my ass/resto sham in the loop still
World of Queue Simulator
Tanking is way easier now than it used to be. I'd say bear is the best starter tank because it really is so simple. Personally my favorite is Brewmaster, it's actually a lot easier than people make it out to be.
I prefer Pally/DK tanks. I find warrior tanks harder to heal this xpac...or maybe its just shitty warriors.
Don't do it! Trust me you'll get depressed, I've stopped tanking I don't give a damn . Only braindead DPS 😂
Shaman tank.... earth shield armor. Have it act you take the least amount of damage when your earth armor is full
BASED! Make it happen please!
Prot Paladin is the easiest out of them all, everyone go play Prot Paladin and skip this video.
its a druid you can just spam shit and press ironfur
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What's up?
@@MarcelianOnline Great content as always!
rawr
Boink!
Wait after 20 years wow is still unbalance ? Fotm game
You can't balance the sheer amount of classes in game ....
Outdated pally nr1
get massed reported over nothing and suspended while blizz does nothing about it
:(
They’re not going to change anything about the report system unless there’s enough backlash and money lost.
the community is hot garbage… sad
What does that have to do with this video?
I was one of the ones who reported, you were dumb
Port Pally seems more squishy than the other tanks.
It's not the tankiest for sure
Couldn't be farther from the truth
lol paladin