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Okay so overly complicated= good, simple = bad 😂 Jk I feel like you need to take a phd class to understand arcane lol. “Press this button when this procs but press this other button of this other thing procs. If they both proc press this button but only under these circumstances otherwise press the other button. And only clip arcane missiles when this happens” Damn bro I’m trying to do mechanics on top of attempting to pay attention to this spec
I got a warlock alt and affliction is way more fun than destro. And soul harvester sending malefic rupture with succulent souls from sending soul rot is super satisfying. Idk what you on about.
My issue with Balance Druid is that I don’t feel the “oomf” like on a mage or a destro lock. I see the damage numbers but the feeling of impact just isn’t there.
Nah this is a 100% subjective video. Just his opinion. I am loving my Balance Druid currently even though I am playing sub-optimally with the Elune’s Chosen hero talents with New Moon because I love the astral theme on my night elf. Does it have its problems? Yeah, but I enjoy it even though most people complain they hate it.
I’m itching for a new class. I love my Evoker but with Aug constantly getting shafted… really wanting something fresh. Tinker or Bard pleaseeeee. Could you imagine how sick bard would be???? If they modeled it after the ingame band etc they could print money bro.
Oh how I miss affliction warlock. I only played it on wotlk when I was doing top dps always when my guild is doing LK run. Its like a racehorse that can only do mid damage but when 25% hp kicks in, it would race to the top.
You said it perfectly. I love how elemental plays right now. I don’t even particularly do good dps. So it’s not that. They just feel so nice. And just like you said they play so nice that it can’t last. They are going to mess them up somehow. And I don’t want to get too attached to them and be mad as hell. So I’m not even playing them other than a key a week. I stick with my destro warlock that I also like the play style of(a lot more relaxed than elemental). They can’t mess destro feel up because it’s really simple.
The main problem with Shadow priest is that in PVP the attacks are so telegraphed you're constantly getting silenced and locked out. And that purple blob that gets launched is so slow moving they can just kite around it. I agree on the mind spike. Anything where you are replacing your signature spell with some other option that does pretty much the same damage and has no real reason for existing is lazy programming. I wish instead of the current complicated tier choices they would go to something different. They should design each class where it truly looks like what it's supposed to be. Shadow priest should look like it's melting someone's brain when it fires off its big damage. Other than that, I feel like you should be able to adjust your class to either make it more of a dot spec or a build and blast type spec. There are different situations where you might want a dot spec but you don't necessarily want to go level up an affliction warlock. I should be able to enhance my shadow priest dots a little bit and give up a bit of peak damage from Insanity. Or maybe I don't want to sit here putting dots on everything, I should be able to store those dots in my pocket and apply them to my insanity blast. There's too much needing to jump from one class to another because the rotations are so boring. I can only play one spec for so long before it just gets old. I mean how much vampire touch can you apply before you just need to do something else? They've really been quite lazy considering they've had 20 years and most of the specs are pretty much the same as when they were released.
I've been pushing high keys (!4s) recently with FF frost mage and it's giga fun! SS is just about FO procs, but the way you play with excess fire / frost adds so much flavour to the spec. Go try it, S-tier for me as long as you can survive 4 frostfire bolt casts at start. Also, I don't agree with arcane. I enjoyed it so much in DF with its 90s rotation but the current version is just too simplified and proc-based. I just run away from proc classes nowadays, I need consistent, reliable dmg.
Interesting, I am REALLY not liking Frost/Fire/Arcane. Its just like so complex, so many procs,. you need so many WAs... However, lock I am loving. Its a cool interesting rotation that you do not need to be einstein to plan but still is interesting. Great design.
Brother that’s cap. you don’t need any weakauras to play any of the mage specs. Will they help you yeah, probably. But you definitely don’t need them. I could play spell slinger arcane without any addons or without looking at my buffs in the top right even and the only thing I would miss is an occasional tier set proc. Same with sun fury fire. Same with frost fire frost.
Arcane needs their changes reverted to the point where they were at the start of the expan. Nerf the sht out of the numbers, but the current loop just feels icky.
Hands down 100% funniest range spec to play is arcane, I alt BM Hunter and I laugh so hard how easy the spec is. RIP SP it use to be so fun to play also I miss mind games
I love how in the demo warlock part half of the pets are not even hiting the right target I had the same issue on my uh dk in freeholds third boss where my pets were more intrested in hiting the target dummies than hiting the boss, pet ai is absolute garbage in this game💀
So is this a funnest RAID Tierlist? For Spriest, Mindspike sees no play in m+ and very little in raid, yet you praised Voidweaver and then placed it in B Tier. What?
I think you're not doing a good job at explaining why these specs are fun. For example watching the part about Elemental Shaman, you don't really say anything apart from "its fun, shamans are doing good this expansion". Nothing about the play style itself, which is what I am interested in when its about fun
Started playing wow back in wotlk mained Ret and alt DK. Now main Warlock, love the class fantasy. Just getting little burnt out. Maxed all the classes this xpac and just can’t decided what class to call home. Ret always has special place but it’s so mind numbing easy. Maybe I should try Prot Pally.
If I every go away from melee i would take arcane mage but i think after the first bg i would stop. Only 1 spellschool is hard 😂 Merry Christmas Marcelian & Flame and thanks for the content 😊
Unless they add 2 charges of shadow crash and/or mind sear shadow priest will always feel horrendous. Ulgrax and rashanan are beyond unfun seeing all the trash that you can't physically deal damage to. Same with arakara and other dungeons where there is too many trash or they frequently show up. I won't even mention that it's most fragile ranged spec ON TOP of having worst mobility in the game and no knock back protection. Having to rely on taxi from evoker and gate from warlock is ridiculous just as having to rely on having paladin babysitting you with freedom on ansurek fight. Absolutely obnoxious. You have zero agency over mob control in dungeons, 45 sec kick is nothing, aoe fear is effectively useless after the changes to cc. All this shit undressed just because we can give pi to meta of the season spec, amazing.
I don't know why but on this expansion, blizzard clearly has a grudge against Priests, especially Holy and Shadow. They are doing everything to make life harder for them.
@@liamdavies2823 agreed. Shadow was insanely meta and not even remotely for PI for most of DF. The tuning is just bad currently. I wouldn’t stray away from it though. Big void theme and all. I sense some buffs and maybe a legendary down the road.
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Mages class fantasy is my least favorite of all the ranged classes
Same. But they have so much utility it’s insane. No two mages play the same
Okay so overly complicated= good, simple = bad 😂
Jk
I feel like you need to take a phd class to understand arcane lol. “Press this button when this procs but press this other button of this other thing procs. If they both proc press this button but only under these circumstances otherwise press the other button. And only clip arcane missiles when this happens”
Damn bro I’m trying to do mechanics on top of attempting to pay attention to this spec
Affltiction is a fun spec, but as said and many MANY times again, malific rapture has to go.
preach brother, rapture has always been awful to play
I really don;t know why blizz still wants us to play MR. That shit skill really needs to go. The Legion AFF was already perfect
What would replace it?
How can you derp about MR, when our vile taint is dsynced with Agony…
That needs to be addressed asap.
I got a warlock alt and affliction is way more fun than destro. And soul harvester sending malefic rupture with succulent souls from sending soul rot is super satisfying. Idk what you on about.
I've been leveling an arcane mage this week & I've been having an absolute blast. It's a testament to the spec because I rarely ever play dps.
My issue with Balance Druid is that I don’t feel the “oomf” like on a mage or a destro lock. I see the damage numbers but the feeling of impact just isn’t there.
Interesting : I have a lot of fun playing as affliction, demonology and destruction but fire and arcane just...don't really click for me, am I weird?
Nah this is a 100% subjective video. Just his opinion. I am loving my Balance Druid currently even though I am playing sub-optimally with the Elune’s Chosen hero talents with New Moon because I love the astral theme on my night elf. Does it have its problems? Yeah, but I enjoy it even though most people complain they hate it.
I feel the same way, tried mage so many times but just don’t think it has the flavor of warlock.. the tier sets ain’t even a competition
Same boat. Can’t play my mage for more than 15 minutes without missing my warlock
I’m itching for a new class. I love my Evoker but with Aug constantly getting shafted… really wanting something fresh. Tinker or Bard pleaseeeee. Could you imagine how sick bard would be???? If they modeled it after the ingame band etc they could print money bro.
Oh how I miss affliction warlock. I only played it on wotlk when I was doing top dps always when my guild is doing LK run. Its like a racehorse that can only do mid damage but when 25% hp kicks in, it would race to the top.
You said it perfectly. I love how elemental plays right now. I don’t even particularly do good dps. So it’s not that. They just feel so nice. And just like you said they play so nice that it can’t last. They are going to mess them up somehow. And I don’t want to get too attached to them and be mad as hell. So I’m not even playing them other than a key a week. I stick with my destro warlock that I also like the play style of(a lot more relaxed than elemental). They can’t mess destro feel up because it’s really simple.
Totally agreed with you on Shadowpriest. Always enjoyed your videos. Merry Christmas.
Happy holidays!
The main problem with Shadow priest is that in PVP the attacks are so telegraphed you're constantly getting silenced and locked out. And that purple blob that gets launched is so slow moving they can just kite around it. I agree on the mind spike. Anything where you are replacing your signature spell with some other option that does pretty much the same damage and has no real reason for existing is lazy programming. I wish instead of the current complicated tier choices they would go to something different. They should design each class where it truly looks like what it's supposed to be. Shadow priest should look like it's melting someone's brain when it fires off its big damage. Other than that, I feel like you should be able to adjust your class to either make it more of a dot spec or a build and blast type spec. There are different situations where you might want a dot spec but you don't necessarily want to go level up an affliction warlock. I should be able to enhance my shadow priest dots a little bit and give up a bit of peak damage from Insanity. Or maybe I don't want to sit here putting dots on everything, I should be able to store those dots in my pocket and apply them to my insanity blast. There's too much needing to jump from one class to another because the rotations are so boring. I can only play one spec for so long before it just gets old. I mean how much vampire touch can you apply before you just need to do something else? They've really been quite lazy considering they've had 20 years and most of the specs are pretty much the same as when they were released.
I've been pushing high keys (!4s) recently with FF frost mage and it's giga fun! SS is just about FO procs, but the way you play with excess fire / frost adds so much flavour to the spec. Go try it, S-tier for me as long as you can survive 4 frostfire bolt casts at start.
Also, I don't agree with arcane. I enjoyed it so much in DF with its 90s rotation but the current version is just too simplified and proc-based. I just run away from proc classes nowadays, I need consistent, reliable dmg.
Affliction has to be the most fun spec I've tried in a long long time. I really enjoy it for some reason
Aff will always be dead so long as rapture exists and is core to the rotation
@graysaltine6035 I find it way cooler than seed spam. Especially with the soul harvester procs. So satisfying
Legion affliction was the best imo (after mid expansion rework)
Probably because you have no taste
@@benjaminghazi787 yes, your opinion is the only one that matters
Isnt MM getting a bit of a rework for the new patch?
ye
It’s getting like a total overhaul
My favorite ranged spec: unholy dk
Interesting, I am REALLY not liking Frost/Fire/Arcane. Its just like so complex, so many procs,. you need so many WAs...
However, lock I am loving. Its a cool interesting rotation that you do not need to be einstein to plan but still is interesting. Great design.
That’s how elemental is. I main my lock when I just need to relax and chill. Elemental shaman when I’m looking for high octane insane energy fun
Brother that’s cap. you don’t need any weakauras to play any of the mage specs. Will they help you yeah, probably. But you definitely don’t need them. I could play spell slinger arcane without any addons or without looking at my buffs in the top right even and the only thing I would miss is an occasional tier set proc. Same with sun fury fire. Same with frost fire frost.
How do I get those cast skill bars for mage!?! Need 🙂
Cool Christmas gear my man
Arcane needs their changes reverted to the point where they were at the start of the expan. Nerf the sht out of the numbers, but the current loop just feels icky.
I can't get behind ele shaman as of their recent changes in 11.0.5...but I also hate ascendence playstyle outside of resto and enhance
No Aug in thumbnail 😢
Hands down 100% funniest range spec to play is arcane, I alt BM Hunter and I laugh so hard how easy the spec is. RIP SP it use to be so fun to play also I miss mind games
I love how in the demo warlock part half of the pets are not even hiting the right target I had the same issue on my uh dk in freeholds third boss where my pets were more intrested in hiting the target dummies than hiting the boss, pet ai is absolute garbage in this game💀
So is this a funnest RAID Tierlist? For Spriest, Mindspike sees no play in m+ and very little in raid, yet you praised Voidweaver and then placed it in B Tier. What?
I think you're not doing a good job at explaining why these specs are fun. For example watching the part about Elemental Shaman, you don't really say anything apart from "its fun, shamans are doing good this expansion". Nothing about the play style itself, which is what I am interested in when its about fun
Sucks u came out with this video then they announced the MM and Pack Leader changes
Started playing wow back in wotlk mained Ret and alt DK. Now main Warlock, love the class fantasy. Just getting little burnt out. Maxed all the classes this xpac and just can’t decided what class to call home. Ret always has special place but it’s so mind numbing easy. Maybe I should try Prot Pally.
If you’re worried about easy, play elemental or enhancement.
@ def enjoy both!
@@braer240 neither of those are hard….. please….
Merry Christmas, Flame❤ i hate the Casting time of glacial spike.. that kills Frost for me😢
If I every go away from melee i would take arcane mage but i think after the first bg i would stop. Only 1 spellschool is hard 😂
Merry Christmas Marcelian & Flame and thanks for the content 😊
Unless they add 2 charges of shadow crash and/or mind sear shadow priest will always feel horrendous. Ulgrax and rashanan are beyond unfun seeing all the trash that you can't physically deal damage to. Same with arakara and other dungeons where there is too many trash or they frequently show up. I won't even mention that it's most fragile ranged spec ON TOP of having worst mobility in the game and no knock back protection. Having to rely on taxi from evoker and gate from warlock is ridiculous just as having to rely on having paladin babysitting you with freedom on ansurek fight. Absolutely obnoxious. You have zero agency over mob control in dungeons, 45 sec kick is nothing, aoe fear is effectively useless after the changes to cc. All this shit undressed just because we can give pi to meta of the season spec, amazing.
I don't know why but on this expansion, blizzard clearly has a grudge against Priests, especially Holy and Shadow. They are doing everything to make life harder for them.
mind sear hasn't been in the game for a while? so not sure what you mean. shadow was meta for most of DF, you sound like you'd be better playing aug
@@liamdavies2823 agreed. Shadow was insanely meta and not even remotely for PI for most of DF. The tuning is just bad currently. I wouldn’t stray away from it though. Big void theme and all. I sense some buffs and maybe a legendary down the road.
My class fun your class not fun tier list. Got it :)
heeeey its mage again. Who would have guessed xD
That’s good he’s consistent. I actually prefer it. I hate when a wow content creator is a different class every day.
So nothing different from before . Mkay
All the mage specs feel like trash
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Lol 100% disagree😁 shit tier list
Which clasess would you place on top?
First!
Enjoy the video!
grown man using the word "funnest".
Trash game delete & focus on class+
Go watch a classic channel smooth brain. Enjoy your 1 button rotation and begone loser.