Also a heads up for everyone looking to buy/make one. Don't buy from a scalper unless you absolutely need one now. The DE-10 Nano is always being made and coming back in stock. Patience will save you a ton of money
[Try4ce] I bought a second DE-10 Nano directly from Terasic just a few weeks ago. They ship fast, but it was $40 shipping. But given that the cost of everything is going up these days, I'm not so sure you'd save money waiting to buy it from somewhere else.
@@mylifeingaming I was referring more to the eBay resellers. I've seen them jack up prices quite a bit. Buying directly from Terasic is definitely the way to go.
Wherever demand outpaces supply, you get scalpers. Videos like this are awesome, but exacerbate the issue by increasing awareness. Plus the chip shortage isn’t helping, too.
@@agentmith for sure. MLIG will definitely bring more eyes on the product but I still think the supply issues won't be a huge problem in the long run. There's been plenty of opportunities to buy them during quarantine at fair prices and I think it'll continue that way. It's definitely not a product like the analogue pocket
I bought one direct too. Got it much faster than the site said. They shipped same day even though the de10 said back ordered until mid April. Yes the $40 international shipping was hefty, and a bit of a bummer since they shipped it from here in the states… but I got my mister pretty much in 3 days. Also, the folks that offer the Ultimate Mister Kit are great. 👍
"We'd be here for another 15 hours if we gave each and every one a deep dive". You guys are one of the few creators that I wouldn't mind the idea of watching 15 hours of them talk about technical information. Excellent video, and keep up the good work!
@detroit retro gamer drg313 It could happen! There really is no copyrighted material to stop this from happening! (Age of the videos on the other hand... After all they were based on most recent developments of the community)
I had a really difficult childhood in a not very structured familly and the opportunity of revisiting all the good (only) memories that my broken NES and my favourite arcades gave to me is like putting all the good moments in a little box and treasure them for good. Thanks.
I'm in the EXACT same boat. At times, my atari, nes and genesis were the only friends I had but my games and systems were lost during moves or sold behind my back for my mom and sister's addictions. I watch in awe at all these UA-camrs who got to keep all their games and systems from their childhood and can't help but wish I had too but emulation gives me that door to my childhood memories. Memories I completely forgot come flooding back when playing certain games.
I already can’t wait for the annual MLIG MiSTer FPGA in 2023, 2024, 2025 videos !!! Perhaps even a far in the future video on the MiSTer+ successor with a bigger brain than the venerable DE-10-Nano, that runs Naomi, Namco 246/256, etc… The future of retro gaming is bright AF ! Peace & blessings to all here for what is the most ambitious and incredible collaborative project in retro gaming history !
I bought a mister last year and it changed my life in so many ways. I honestly didn't even understand what a CRT television did but I bought the full mister kit with analog board just the same. Realizing I had paid extra for the mister with analog output inspired me to actually get a CRT tv to "try it out," and now I'm all the way down the rabbit hole. Fast forward to today and I now own a 27" JVC D Series CRT television, rotatable LCD screens for tate games, and even a home built arcade cabinet to plug the mister into. I have retired my PSP dock and PSP TV now thanks to the core updates. I have even gotten into collecting classic controllers such as the SNES mouse, light guns, a negGcon, and more. This has been an adventure and it's still going. I could keep telling stories for pages and new stories are still being made.
This is one of the biggest deep dives I've seen on the Mister. I want to aspire to be as thorough as you guys one day. The amount of work and dedication you put into making videos is insane. The amount of B-roll you shoot, all the sound effects and music you layer, all the transitions, it's mind boggling. Bravo!
To do a video _this long_ with such a high level of polish throughout must be an _insane_ amount of work. And they do that all the time - for a channel with 200k subscribers. There are channels with sub counts in the millions that don't put in that much work. It's genuinely really, really impressive.
@@masayoshsato7906 in the U.S.? MisterAddons is a good place. There are more that are UK-based. I don't know of any other US-based places but there might be a couple more. Just don't buy overpriced ones on eBay from scalpers/resellers just because its out of stock. Have a little patience.
This is the one that's going to cement your legacy as great game preservationists for years to come. You can really tell that this video was a sincere labor of love not only because of its mammoth length but because the nerdy glee that radiates from your presentation of the systems nuance and cores is very infectious. I'm proud of you two and also proud to support you guys. Great job!
Funny experience I had with MiSTer (as a someone who is fairly non-technically inclined) is that I had tried rpi before and couldn’t get my head around how to utilize it well… all these different images available etc, I never really got it going. But when I grabbed my first MiSTer a couple years ago it clicked right away. I’ve found it really straightforward to use and the community has been so awesome with any questions or issues I ran up against.
We gotta be fair though, the person who developed the N64 core said it wouldn't be possible originally as well, then he went back after finishing the PSX core and ran some tests and determined it would be mostly possible with some compromises. MLiG got that prediction from a trustworthy source.
1:32:20 This single NES audio comparison is what I love about watching MLiG! Perfect snippet to compare -- familiar song, and a part that lends itself well to looping. The timing of the changes is so right, it's as if it was a real nine second repetitive NES loop heh. And the attention to detail of using the four characters for the four samples.. 👍
Just as an FYI for everyone, when you’re in the video processing and audio processing menus, you can use the L and R trigger buttons to quickly switch between the options one at a time without opening the menus. Just highlight the menu options (example “GS_Sharpness_050.txt”) and press the triggers to quick switch to the next / previous options Just a nice quality of life option when you wanna make quick changes
Hands-down the best overview of MiSTer to date. Thanks for taking your time and doing it right! Considering the length, the clever sequencing with console/core features between the technical bits kept it engaging and entertaining 'til the very end. Great work!
[Try4ce] Yes Coury originally planned to do it this way, but then I guess we forgot, then that concept came back up after the script was mostly written and we realized it would be an hour before we started talking about playing any danged games haha.
Miss your regular content. Watching your vids assisted me in installing all those mods I purchased from your store. We also need a new video of you fixing another ebay partial abortion.
I hope you can do a update episode using the MISTer in 2024. Several new things has happened with a new Genesis core, N64 and Saturn etc. It would also be cool to hear about new features and the latest arcade cores available for the system.
Two notes: First the ZX Spectrum did not have different processor speeds. That’s a novelty on the FPGA implementation mainly used to accelerate 3D games. Second, the stereo separation on the Amiga can already be “fixed” on the audio menu by enabling stereo mixing at 25% or 50%. Otherwise what an absolutely amazing video (as always). Cheers
...and it's called the ZED EX not the ZEE EX :) sorry but UK machines need UK pronunciation. Great video other than that little niggle in my ocd brain.
There were Eastern European clones that had faster clock speeds but like anything else this guy says, if there's any truth in it it's more by luck than knowledge or research.
Great video! You guys never disappoint. I agree with using softer scaling with scanlines, it's the look I prefer when I actually play games through HDMI. Thanks for mentioning me too, you guys are awesome!
I own most retro consoles but I love the mister and its versatility. Just the amount it does in such a small footprint along with having the ability to scale when using a monitor that supports 480p is awesome. Built some controller boards for old joysticks and pads for minimal lag and the experience is no different from the real thing and in many cases the pixel clarity, through RGB, looks better to me. The fact too that it has such a large dev community makes it incredibly exciting as new implementations come out. I'd say its my device of the decade.
Yeah same here.... like the audio filters which I never tried. Very useful for arcade situations to get a cabinet sound, which always bothered me with arcade emulation and the high tingy pitches. I always wondered why it did not sound right in MAME, etc. Now I know it was just low quality speakers/audio and inside a wooden cabinet that made it sound.... better I guess.
I listen to your live streams while I work, and I know from those that making this video was difficult for both of you, so I just wanted to express my gratitude for everything you do! You're awesome, and I really appreciate how accessible yet entertaining you make these topics! Thanks, both, for your hard work 😄
I just want to say that the way you sync up the music to the intros to your videos is fantastic. The "my life in gaming" theme is iconic. Always gets me hyped for the rest of the video 😊
Wow, it's finally here! This has been such a crazy long project. I'm so glad you guys are finally done! You've talked about it during so many Sunday streams and it's kind of surreal to witness it be released. Thank you both for all you do. Now take a vacation!
I bought a mister last year and I barely use my old consoles. It’s such a game changer! And the best is all the cool new cores constantly added! Soon we’ll have Neo Geo Pocket!
I found it a doddle to set up (compared to a RetroPi) and everything just works. No stupid RetroArc menus. Easy to switch between HDTV and CRT. Sounds fantastic, no input lag. It's worth every penny.
@@isaacchavarria4026 purely personal preference of course. I do enjoy regular emulation as well. I just got quite frustrated with the Pi 2 a few years ago and never succeeded in getting it running to my satisfaction.
Thank you for mentioning something about sound. While everyone just lets 48kHz ride, people either forget or are too young to know that the majority of consumer Arcade and TV speakers were straight garbage. More fidelity does not equal better in this case. Actually, the longer waveforms in lower frequency sounds produced by low quality drivers were perfect for noisy environments since they have the power to resonate through the noise (think about bass in music). Back when emulation was new, I started to set NES game audio to mono, 8-bit (22 kHz) and older arcade games to mono, 4-bit (11 kHz) and they’d sound perfect on regular headphones. 1:29:47 I see what you did there. Thanks for the MiSTer deep dive MLiG! This will definitely open some minds!
I watched the whole thing very well done. Amusing to me that the minute you put out the video some of your complaints (like s-video support) are already released. It was bound to happen with such a frequently improving platform.
I know this video is over a year old, but I was able to set up a brand new MiSTer, and I do not regret it at all. Thanks for making this video streamlining the process and making it easier!
That multiplayer GBA function looks so cool. I think it would be sick if you could hook up two MiSTers using a crossover cable and do 4-player link action, or plug in a GBA link port to the MiSTer and interface with real GBAs.
lots of people in the community have been clamoring for a portable form factor for this reason exactly. It's tricky, because obviously someone has to make this stuff, and the consumer has to buy it, usually not for cheap. this specific use case is probably one where Analogue has the leg up on MiSTer (with their Pocket line)
2p gba is amazing. The same guy who made the gba core (fpgazumspass) Robert Peip is working right now on the ps1 core. He is like All MiSTer devs a f****** legend!
Marc, Coury, thank you for all your hard work. This was an absolute BEAST of a video, and you have single-handedly peaked my interest in the MiSTer project. Videos like this are a testament to why you are THE best retro gaming channel on all of UA-cam and quite possibly....one of the best overall channels on all of UA-cam as well. By the way....any chance for "Analogue Frontiers part 4"? Lol.
Madness. Fantastic video, thanks guys, I've been digging into the MiSTer pretty heavily for a few months, but this still gave me lots of new information to look at, cheers!
Oh, nice. This caught me by surprise. Looking forward to watching (it might take me a few sessions), but thanks for the effort you put into it - I hope you both get some time to chill out
I can't imagine the amount of work that was put into making this 2 hours & 40 minutes video. The amount of game captures and the editing must be crazy. Very well done to you guys as always brilliant upload 👍👍
My MiSTer is my favorite piece of kit I put together last year, and I'm so happy with the constant improvements and developments. So excited to watch this video. You guys put out my favorite content!
You guys always knocking it out of the park! Now I'm VERY interested in getting into the MiSTer project. Amazing job, guys! Bravo!! By the way, I need to do this: TAAAAAAAATEEEEEEE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!!! Joe from Game Sack always killing it! 🤣🤣🤣
Excellent video. I love my MiSTer. It's connected to a Trinitron CRT via RGB and it rocks. Arcade cores, Mega drive and Mega CD, SNES all bringing back childhood memories.... and Neo Geo creating new ones :)
Amazing work! I like that you included computer cores even if to only show the tip of the iceberg. There is so much to explore and discover, and MiSTer makes it really simple to go through them!
Not directly related to the mister, but just wanted to say how impressed I've always been with this channel. Such incredible editing and production values for what is essentially extremely niche applications of a niche hobby. You wouldn't expect videos about optimizing the output of old game consoles or the small FPGA emulation scene to have such quality. Though I guess these days more and more these things aren't as niche as before, which is awesome, I'm excited to see the scene growing.
Been waiting for the MiSTer episode for a while. I've got a lot of schoolwork to do today, but I also happen to be home sick, so perfect day to watch a long video I suppose!
Though it uses FPGA, the UperGrafx does not replicate the VDP to regenerate video. It replicates the function of the “VCE” which is the DAC where the the pallets diverged in the first place. The Super HD System³ Pro might do it the same way but I don’t know since it definitely replicates the whole VDP when you are in SuperGrafx mode. Regardless, both support composite color pallet with upgraded digital video output.
By far the most comprehensive video on the topic as of 2022. Thank you for producing this top-notch video on what I consider to be the best acquisition I have made, the gift that keeps on giving, the MiSTer. It also gives a nice little nod to some familiar UA-camrs such as GameSack and Lu's Retro Source.
Fantastic job, guys! I had no idea that I'd watch this all the way through, especially since I don't have a MiSTer, but I remained interested throughout! I appreciate all of the developers who worked on the MiSTer and its cores, and I appreciate you both for explaining it to us. And thanks also to Audi, who was sørlie needed for the home computer section of this video. Nice work, all of you!
I got into the mister project in roughly 2018 and I’ve never looked back. It’s been a luxury to assist with the mistercade project as well. I’m definitely lookin forward to other arcade platforms being added in the future. Fantastic job MLiG!
Went into this video kinda knowing what a MiSTer was and thinking it was too complicated to get into, to being fully sold on giving this thing a try. Once I’m able to buy components, anyway 😬 Great video, as always
This is so solid, I can't believe how long it is, while still being well-paced. I love the more conversational style of Audi's segment. Euro Micros are still so foreign and odd to me, even with a little tinkering on MiSTer's Amiga. Dear God, do I need an MT32-Pi now? I've resisted the allures of pi for so long because I don't exactly need more technical rabbit holes in my life, but if I used it ONLY as an external MIDI synth, we might be in business.
Recently compatibility was added to for an android app to act as the MT32 (via usb cable) you can use any old unused or cheap android phone, its a great idea
This is a hell of an overview of Mister. This should be the go-to video to recommend to people interested in getting into classic gaming. Nice work guys.
Forced scandoubler on a VGA CRT monitor is a great option, thanks for highlighting it. I use a little scanline generator dongle and it gives really great results. If you ever do a follow up video to this it might be good to flag up the physical jumpers on the analog IO board, these are important if you are using an RGB scart cable on a consumer set or a scaler or other device that behaves like a consumer set. This is how the relevant lines are set on the scart cable to identify the signal as RGB. This is most relevant to users in Europe and similar areas who have access to RGB scart consumer sets so it’s completely understandable that it won’t have come up in your exposure to this stuff so far. I can’t say I’ve used it but to my understanding SNAC typically only supports 1 controller when used with the console cores, so that is one catch that people might need to bear in mind. A good USB controller with decent levels of lag according to the misteraddons test document is generally a much better option where possible for vast majority of users given all the caveats that come up with SNAC. Great video as always. Thanks!
I thankfully got my DE-10 right before they sold out just before christmas last year. I was super interested when the NeoGeo was being developed, and knew I had to jump in once the CPS-2 was live. Looking forward to more of Jotego's arcade cores that he's got lined up to work on. Recently the PolyGame Master that Video Game Esoterica has been going though reviewing has been on my watchlist, and I think Jotego has that lined up to work on soon, which makes me quite excited.
This is such a wealth of information. Definitely adding this one to Favorites and Watch Later, as I'm sure I'll be referring back to it over and over again, when my MiSTer arrives. Console-accurate gameplay, with the option to use a keyboard and/or mouse to interact with the console, _plus save-states..?_ Yes please! I rarely use save-states in retro games, preferring to view the possibility of failure as part of the challenge. I mean, if you can't lose, then how can you really say you won, right? That being said, many RPGs rely heavily on RNG to draw-out the gameplay, and I don't find reloading the game, all the way from boot, to be an efficient use of my time _(looking at you, JRPGs that feature Pick Pocketing!)._ Thank you guys for putting in the time that this subject requires! I bet this video represents _a LOT of work_ on your part! P.S: Does anyone know if the Sinden Lightgun is supported on the MiSTer?
I've been someone that mostly just emulates consoles on other consoles in ways that are "good enough". My main classic games from the 3rd and 4th gens are on my Wii and Wii U, my OG Xbox runs Arcade games, and I use my Vita for PS1 and PSP stuff. I've also been more interested in picking up handheld hardware alongside flash carts, since those provide the more unique experience to invest in with how high retro game prices are these days. But I'll admit, this video is at least making me interested in potentially picking up a MiSTer with how detailed and well done it is. Probably won't be for a while since I'm focusing on getting some other hardware mods done on my current stuff and picking up the handhelds I want before they become unobtainable, it's something I'm interested in keeping an eye on for future reference. I'd personally like to wait for a composite output option since I'm very much a composite snob, but then again I still don't have a CRT and have been looking for one for a while. Here's hoping I can find one soon before those get impossible to find too... But really, anything that benefits game preservation is A-OK in my book. Glad to see this project be as good as it is and am excited to see how PS1, Saturn and 3DO works out! I thankfully have an N64 with a flash cart already, but those other consoles I have to emulate on my PC which isn't very fun for me personally. I prefer playing console games in my room on my bed. If those work out properly, I'll probably get one then. Till then I'll stick with my Wii and Xbox, but I suspect I'll join the MiSTer family earlier then I expect.
Guys, this is an absolutely outstanding video. You have probably outdone yourselves, and that is already a high bar you've set for yourselves. People will be referring to this as a moment in time for game preservation, and I'm sure subsequent follow-ups to this will be equally as informative. Really appreciate how you've clearly broken down not just the steps of how to prepare and customize the MiSTer, but how you wisely interspersed in-game video and sound between the more technical jargon pieces. It really helped the video remain engaging in what easily could easily have been confusing due to all the features and capabilities of the cores, audio/video tweaks, etc. Bravo, MLIG!
As someone who was using the Analogue consoles along with flash carts, the MiSTer has basically made all those redundant for me. To the point where I’ve started selling those off. I can’t recommend MiSTer enough. It’s incredible.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 got plenty of mileage out of my analogue consoles. But since I don’t have the space to set them all up at once, they’ve basically remained in their boxes since I got a MiSTer. It’s just far more convenient for me.
Great to see a mention of the nullobject work. He's been very much missing for a while from the scene since September last year. No updates on his twitter or Patreon. :( I really hope he's ok.
I would love for you guys to cover an episode about cleaning & resurfacing disc-based games, and maybe a comparison of disc resurfacing products used like the SkipDr or the JFJ Easy Pro. 💿
That was a great video, I'll make sure to re-watch certain section a few time to be sure to understand all the capability of some cores. I've been playing with my MiSTer for more than two years and I still learned a lot from that video. Thank you MLiG!! :)
I love my MiSTer FPGA, sold 2 GBA games and a GBC game last year to buy it, and now I can sell anything of those generations and make some money back from the collecting.
A close friend of mine is a total sweetheart and is buying me a MiSTer, I'm a little afraid because I'm not much of a programming person but I feel like this video has given me some confidence so thank you so much, can't wait to try it out.
I can't wait to tackle this over the next couple days. I was literally JUST looking for quality overviews of the MiSTer to help determine whether or not I wanna jump in to the platform or stick with real hardware and RetroArch emulation.
Stick with real hardware and retro arch. My system is all retro hardware connected to my Sony pvm and my gaming pc running retroarch with a launchbox front end.
@@itguru2037 I'm currently using real hardware on my Sony Trinitron but given that it isn't RGB modded and doesn't accept S-Video, only composite and component, I have looked at other alternatives to getting a good image out of my CRT. I mostly use component out of my Wii to get super sharp 240p but systems like my N64 still look trashy without hardware mods. I since ordered an HDMI to YPbPr converter to see if I can get 240p super resolution out of retroarch on my gaming PC over to my CRT. If it doesn't work out, I might look into MiSTer more in the future tbh.
@@itguru2037 Not worth it for me. Especially without already having an RGB monitor. I think it would be easier and much cheaper to just make a solution for the CRT I currently have.
"Screen tearing does rear its ugly head in many situations - although I don't have enough experience on a real PC to know if it was present there as well" Yes. Yes, it was. PC video hardware did not have a reliable way of reporting blanking intervals until the GPU era. There _is_ an interrupt that can be used for this in VGA, but hardware support is .... uhh... well, let's leave that at "not universal." So most software does not even bother. You get what you get.
Thank you guys, really! The effort spent in this video is incredible. Thank you! What about a follow up regarding “accuracy level” for the most used cores?
Also a heads up for everyone looking to buy/make one. Don't buy from a scalper unless you absolutely need one now. The DE-10 Nano is always being made and coming back in stock. Patience will save you a ton of money
[Try4ce] I bought a second DE-10 Nano directly from Terasic just a few weeks ago. They ship fast, but it was $40 shipping. But given that the cost of everything is going up these days, I'm not so sure you'd save money waiting to buy it from somewhere else.
@@mylifeingaming I was referring more to the eBay resellers. I've seen them jack up prices quite a bit. Buying directly from Terasic is definitely the way to go.
Wherever demand outpaces supply, you get scalpers. Videos like this are awesome, but exacerbate the issue by increasing awareness. Plus the chip shortage isn’t helping, too.
@@agentmith for sure. MLIG will definitely bring more eyes on the product but I still think the supply issues won't be a huge problem in the long run. There's been plenty of opportunities to buy them during quarantine at fair prices and I think it'll continue that way. It's definitely not a product like the analogue pocket
I bought one direct too. Got it much faster than the site said. They shipped same day even though the de10 said back ordered until mid April. Yes the $40 international shipping was hefty, and a bit of a bummer since they shipped it from here in the states… but I got my mister pretty much in 3 days.
Also, the folks that offer the Ultimate Mister Kit are great. 👍
"We'd be here for another 15 hours if we gave each and every one a deep dive".
You guys are one of the few creators that I wouldn't mind the idea of watching 15 hours of them talk about technical information. Excellent video, and keep up the good work!
Sometimes I just queue up a bunch of their videos and have it run in the background while I work. Love listening to them talk
I agree completely with all of this! 👆👆👆👆
@detroit retro gamer drg313 It could happen! There really is no copyrighted material to stop this from happening! (Age of the videos on the other hand... After all they were based on most recent developments of the community)
I’d watch
Yet this video is only 2 and a half hours long. Lazy! :P
I had a really difficult childhood in a not very structured familly and the opportunity of revisiting all the good (only) memories that my broken NES and my favourite arcades gave to me is like putting all the good moments in a little box and treasure them for good. Thanks.
I have been there also ! more thank 30 years ago ...Now i have my own structured family!!! I trully hope you are ok!
I'm in the EXACT same boat. At times, my atari, nes and genesis were the only friends I had but my games and systems were lost during moves or sold behind my back for my mom and sister's addictions. I watch in awe at all these UA-camrs who got to keep all their games and systems from their childhood and can't help but wish I had too but emulation gives me that door to my childhood memories. Memories I completely forgot come flooding back when playing certain games.
At least you had an NES.
My condolences man, hugs. Big hugs, come here you!!
THANKS for warning people about the “Switch to USB” menu option, they should just get rid of that or hide it in a submenu or something.
These dudes make the most sincere, detailed, comprehensive, informative and descriptive videos possible, in the retro game scene. Props! 🤙🏽
I already can’t wait for the annual MLIG MiSTer FPGA in 2023, 2024, 2025 videos !!!
Perhaps even a far in the future video on the MiSTer+ successor with a bigger brain than the venerable DE-10-Nano, that runs Naomi, Namco 246/256, etc…
The future of retro gaming is bright AF !
Peace & blessings to all here for what is the most ambitious and incredible collaborative project in retro gaming history !
Couldn't have said it better myself. Great comment!
I bought a mister last year and it changed my life in so many ways. I honestly didn't even understand what a CRT television did but I bought the full mister kit with analog board just the same.
Realizing I had paid extra for the mister with analog output inspired me to actually get a CRT tv to "try it out," and now I'm all the way down the rabbit hole.
Fast forward to today and I now own a 27" JVC D Series CRT television, rotatable LCD screens for tate games, and even a home built arcade cabinet to plug the mister into. I have retired my PSP dock and PSP TV now thanks to the core updates. I have even gotten into collecting classic controllers such as the SNES mouse, light guns, a negGcon, and more.
This has been an adventure and it's still going. I could keep telling stories for pages and new stories are still being made.
Best video game thing I ever bought for sure... and at least one of the best things I bought in general.
This is the way, please preach it out. When young people don´t see the appeal of CRTs I always wonder if they ever had an experience like yours.
You’ve been fooled into buying something you 100% do not need to enjoy accurate retro game emulation. Congratulations.
This is one of the biggest deep dives I've seen on the Mister. I want to aspire to be as thorough as you guys one day. The amount of work and dedication you put into making videos is insane. The amount of B-roll you shoot, all the sound effects and music you layer, all the transitions, it's mind boggling. Bravo!
I am sure it is THE biggest. It will help the community a lot. The more MiSTer gets popular, the better it gets.
Where can i buy a mister system at
To do a video _this long_ with such a high level of polish throughout must be an _insane_ amount of work. And they do that all the time - for a channel with 200k subscribers. There are channels with sub counts in the millions that don't put in that much work. It's genuinely really, really impressive.
@@masayoshsato7906 in the U.S.? MisterAddons is a good place. There are more that are UK-based. I don't know of any other US-based places but there might be a couple more. Just don't buy overpriced ones on eBay from scalpers/resellers just because its out of stock. Have a little patience.
This is the one that's going to cement your legacy as great game preservationists for years to come. You can really tell that this video was a sincere labor of love not only because of its mammoth length but because the nerdy glee that radiates from your presentation of the systems nuance and cores is very infectious. I'm proud of you two and also proud to support you guys. Great job!
Funny experience I had with MiSTer (as a someone who is fairly non-technically inclined) is that I had tried rpi before and couldn’t get my head around how to utilize it well… all these different images available etc, I never really got it going. But when I grabbed my first MiSTer a couple years ago it clicked right away. I’ve found it really straightforward to use and the community has been so awesome with any questions or issues I ran up against.
i prefer plain text menus
The comment about the lack of N64 core for a decade has aged like fine milk.
More like aged cheddar 🧀, because cheddar is better.
@@Eth3realwarrior You realise that milk means it's gone off, right? hence has not aged well.
@@SpectraPrimeso yogurt then
We gotta be fair though, the person who developed the N64 core said it wouldn't be possible originally as well, then he went back after finishing the PSX core and ran some tests and determined it would be mostly possible with some compromises. MLiG got that prediction from a trustworthy source.
1:32:20 This single NES audio comparison is what I love about watching MLiG! Perfect snippet to compare -- familiar song, and a part that lends itself well to looping. The timing of the changes is so right, it's as if it was a real nine second repetitive NES loop heh. And the attention to detail of using the four characters for the four samples.. 👍
Just as an FYI for everyone, when you’re in the video processing and audio processing menus, you can use the L and R trigger buttons to quickly switch between the options one at a time without opening the menus.
Just highlight the menu options (example “GS_Sharpness_050.txt”) and press the triggers to quick switch to the next / previous options
Just a nice quality of life option when you wanna make quick changes
Oh my god
Dude I didn’t know this. Awesome, thank you!
@@Mrjohnnygnct You're welcome! :)
Hands-down the best overview of MiSTer to date. Thanks for taking your time and doing it right! Considering the length, the clever sequencing with console/core features between the technical bits kept it engaging and entertaining 'til the very end. Great work!
[Try4ce] Yes Coury originally planned to do it this way, but then I guess we forgot, then that concept came back up after the script was mostly written and we realized it would be an hour before we started talking about playing any danged games haha.
This was an AMAZING episode. Great work & strap on always!
Yeah these guys LOVE strap ons
Miss your regular content. Watching your vids assisted me in installing all those mods I purchased from your store. We also need a new video of you fixing another ebay partial abortion.
I hope you can do a update episode using the MISTer in 2024. Several new things has happened with a new Genesis core, N64 and Saturn etc. It would also be cool to hear about new features and the latest arcade cores available for the system.
Two notes: First the ZX Spectrum did not have different processor speeds. That’s a novelty on the FPGA implementation mainly used to accelerate 3D games. Second, the stereo separation on the Amiga can already be “fixed” on the audio menu by enabling stereo mixing at 25% or 50%. Otherwise what an absolutely amazing video (as always). Cheers
...and it's called the ZED EX not the ZEE EX :) sorry but UK machines need UK pronunciation. Great video other than that little niggle in my ocd brain.
@@TheCaffeineKid I kind of let that one slide, but it also grinds my brain every time I hear it 😂
There were Eastern European clones that had faster clock speeds but like anything else this guy says, if there's any truth in it it's more by luck than knowledge or research.
Hands down best video work on the MiSTer project to date.
Great video! You guys never disappoint. I agree with using softer scaling with scanlines, it's the look I prefer when I actually play games through HDMI. Thanks for mentioning me too, you guys are awesome!
You got some great content Lu, good you getting some recognition 🤠👍
I own most retro consoles but I love the mister and its versatility. Just the amount it does in such a small footprint along with having the ability to scale when using a monitor that supports 480p is awesome. Built some controller boards for old joysticks and pads for minimal lag and the experience is no different from the real thing and in many cases the pixel clarity, through RGB, looks better to me. The fact too that it has such a large dev community makes it incredibly exciting as new implementations come out. I'd say its my device of the decade.
I'm not exactly a novice Mister user and I learned several things here! Great video guys.
Yeah same here.... like the audio filters which I never tried. Very useful for arcade situations to get a cabinet sound, which always bothered me with arcade emulation and the high tingy pitches. I always wondered why it did not sound right in MAME, etc. Now I know it was just low quality speakers/audio and inside a wooden cabinet that made it sound.... better I guess.
I listen to your live streams while I work, and I know from those that making this video was difficult for both of you, so I just wanted to express my gratitude for everything you do! You're awesome, and I really appreciate how accessible yet entertaining you make these topics! Thanks, both, for your hard work 😄
I just want to say that the way you sync up the music to the intros to your videos is fantastic. The "my life in gaming" theme is iconic. Always gets me hyped for the rest of the video 😊
Thanks for the mention guys! Great video (so far lol...haven't finished)
Wow, it's finally here! This has been such a crazy long project. I'm so glad you guys are finally done! You've talked about it during so many Sunday streams and it's kind of surreal to witness it be released.
Thank you both for all you do. Now take a vacation!
I bought a mister last year and I barely use my old consoles. It’s such a game changer! And the best is all the cool new cores constantly added! Soon we’ll have Neo Geo Pocket!
The fact this channel has only 200k subs is a damn travesty. Such quality. so informative, thank you for the hardwork fellas
I found it a doddle to set up (compared to a RetroPi) and everything just works. No stupid RetroArc menus. Easy to switch between HDTV and CRT. Sounds fantastic, no input lag. It's worth every penny.
No need to insult, different solutions are welcomed :)
@@isaacchavarria4026 purely personal preference of course. I do enjoy regular emulation as well. I just got quite frustrated with the Pi 2 a few years ago and never succeeded in getting it running to my satisfaction.
@@ShapeyFiend pi2 and 3 are dire for emulation
Thank you for mentioning something about sound. While everyone just lets 48kHz ride, people either forget or are too young to know that the majority of consumer Arcade and TV speakers were straight garbage. More fidelity does not equal better in this case. Actually, the longer waveforms in lower frequency sounds produced by low quality drivers were perfect for noisy environments since they have the power to resonate through the noise (think about bass in music). Back when emulation was new, I started to set NES game audio to mono, 8-bit (22 kHz) and older arcade games to mono, 4-bit (11 kHz) and they’d sound perfect on regular headphones.
1:29:47 I see what you did there.
Thanks for the MiSTer deep dive MLiG! This will definitely open some minds!
I watched the whole thing very well done. Amusing to me that the minute you put out the video some of your complaints (like s-video support) are already released. It was bound to happen with such a frequently improving platform.
I know this video is over a year old, but I was able to set up a brand new MiSTer, and I do not regret it at all. Thanks for making this video streamlining the process and making it easier!
That multiplayer GBA function looks so cool. I think it would be sick if you could hook up two MiSTers using a crossover cable and do 4-player link action, or plug in a GBA link port to the MiSTer and interface with real GBAs.
lots of people in the community have been clamoring for a portable form factor for this reason exactly. It's tricky, because obviously someone has to make this stuff, and the consumer has to buy it, usually not for cheap.
this specific use case is probably one where Analogue has the leg up on MiSTer (with their Pocket line)
2p gba is amazing. The same guy who made the gba core (fpgazumspass) Robert Peip is working right now on the ps1 core. He is like All MiSTer devs a f****** legend!
Hell yeah. Sticking on as many GBA EXT ports as the system can handle GBA instances?
I drool. The one way to do better than the Game Boy Player.
About time we got the definitive guide to the Mister!
Thanks to you guys for being awesome and putting out killer content!
Marc, Coury, thank you for all your hard work. This was an absolute BEAST of a video, and you have single-handedly peaked my interest in the MiSTer project.
Videos like this are a testament to why you are THE best retro gaming channel on all of UA-cam and quite possibly....one of the best overall channels on all of UA-cam as well.
By the way....any chance for "Analogue Frontiers part 4"? Lol.
[Try4ce] I'm very soon going to be working on parts 4 and 5 simultaneously in hopes of finally finishing the whole dang thing soon(ish)!
@My Life in Gaming that's fantastic! I love that series so much that I've watched parts 1-3 10+ times each!
Madness. Fantastic video, thanks guys, I've been digging into the MiSTer pretty heavily for a few months, but this still gave me lots of new information to look at, cheers!
This is one of the best Mister videos Ive ever seen...
247 people downvoted it.
Can't please everyone, right?
Oh, nice. This caught me by surprise. Looking forward to watching (it might take me a few sessions), but thanks for the effort you put into it - I hope you both get some time to chill out
I can't imagine the amount of work that was put into making this 2 hours & 40 minutes video. The amount of game captures and the editing must be crazy.
Very well done to you guys as always brilliant upload 👍👍
My MiSTer is my favorite piece of kit I put together last year, and I'm so happy with the constant improvements and developments. So excited to watch this video. You guys put out my favorite content!
Had my mister for 6 months or so absolutely best purchase ever made
2:11:45 As of July 2022, the Super GameBoy Core is now released! w/ all Super Game Boy functions working!
Definitely going to play Donkey Kong when I get it on Monday then.
So if I put the Space Invaders cartridge in, I can boot up the SNES version?
Two and a half hours long!? No wonder it took so long to make the feckin' video! Happy you put so much into it.
You guys always knocking it out of the park! Now I'm VERY interested in getting into the MiSTer project. Amazing job, guys! Bravo!!
By the way, I need to do this: TAAAAAAAATEEEEEEE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!!! Joe from Game Sack always killing it! 🤣🤣🤣
Oh god the GameSack cameo absolutely broke me, I was not ready for that.
Excellent video. I love my MiSTer. It's connected to a Trinitron CRT via RGB and it rocks. Arcade cores, Mega drive and Mega CD, SNES all bringing back childhood memories.... and Neo Geo creating new ones :)
Amazing work! I like that you included computer cores even if to only show the tip of the iceberg. There is so much to explore and discover, and MiSTer makes it really simple to go through them!
This is great. Metal Jesus did a “review” and spent all kinds of time trying to run 3d and complaining that it was poor performance.
So glad you guys do this, it’s so important for the community!
Not directly related to the mister, but just wanted to say how impressed I've always been with this channel. Such incredible editing and production values for what is essentially extremely niche applications of a niche hobby. You wouldn't expect videos about optimizing the output of old game consoles or the small FPGA emulation scene to have such quality.
Though I guess these days more and more these things aren't as niche as before, which is awesome, I'm excited to see the scene growing.
Been waiting for the MiSTer episode for a while. I've got a lot of schoolwork to do today, but I also happen to be home sick, so perfect day to watch a long video I suppose!
Phenomenal work as always, love my MiSTer. Loved the cameo from Gamesack Joe...TATE MODE!!!
Yet when the genesis segment came up no mention of greendog !! lol !
Though it uses FPGA, the UperGrafx does not replicate the VDP to regenerate video. It replicates the function of the “VCE” which is the DAC where the the pallets diverged in the first place. The Super HD System³ Pro might do it the same way but I don’t know since it definitely replicates the whole VDP when you are in SuperGrafx mode. Regardless, both support composite color pallet with upgraded digital video output.
MiSTer is the best investment in retro tech i ve ever made. Amazing several hours Video i will enjoy. :) ☮️
By far the most comprehensive video on the topic as of 2022. Thank you for producing this top-notch video on what I consider to be the best acquisition I have made, the gift that keeps on giving, the MiSTer.
It also gives a nice little nod to some familiar UA-camrs such as GameSack and Lu's Retro Source.
Fantastic job, guys! I had no idea that I'd watch this all the way through, especially since I don't have a MiSTer, but I remained interested throughout! I appreciate all of the developers who worked on the MiSTer and its cores, and I appreciate you both for explaining it to us. And thanks also to Audi, who was sørlie needed for the home computer section of this video. Nice work, all of you!
[Try4ce] This is a quality pun that I'm ashamed I never thought of in all the years I've known Audi.
You guys are so awesome! You are literally making full movies on these topics, and it's so so much appreciated!
You guys are unreal. This dropped at the perfect time.
It’s here! Time to dive in. Excited for this one. Now you guys take a break!
I got into the mister project in roughly 2018 and I’ve never looked back. It’s been a luxury to assist with the mistercade project as well. I’m definitely lookin forward to other arcade platforms being added in the future. Fantastic job MLiG!
Went into this video kinda knowing what a MiSTer was and thinking it was too complicated to get into, to being fully sold on giving this thing a try. Once I’m able to buy components, anyway 😬 Great video, as always
This is so solid, I can't believe how long it is, while still being well-paced. I love the more conversational style of Audi's segment. Euro Micros are still so foreign and odd to me, even with a little tinkering on MiSTer's Amiga. Dear God, do I need an MT32-Pi now? I've resisted the allures of pi for so long because I don't exactly need more technical rabbit holes in my life, but if I used it ONLY as an external MIDI synth, we might be in business.
Recently compatibility was added to for an android app to act as the MT32 (via usb cable) you can use any old unused or cheap android phone, its a great idea
This is a hell of an overview of Mister. This should be the go-to video to recommend to people interested in getting into classic gaming. Nice work guys.
Forced scandoubler on a VGA CRT monitor is a great option, thanks for highlighting it. I use a little scanline generator dongle and it gives really great results.
If you ever do a follow up video to this it might be good to flag up the physical jumpers on the analog IO board, these are important if you are using an RGB scart cable on a consumer set or a scaler or other device that behaves like a consumer set. This is how the relevant lines are set on the scart cable to identify the signal as RGB. This is most relevant to users in Europe and similar areas who have access to RGB scart consumer sets so it’s completely understandable that it won’t have come up in your exposure to this stuff so far.
I can’t say I’ve used it but to my understanding SNAC typically only supports 1 controller when used with the console cores, so that is one catch that people might need to bear in mind. A good USB controller with decent levels of lag according to the misteraddons test document is generally a much better option where possible for vast majority of users given all the caveats that come up with SNAC.
Great video as always. Thanks!
Two hours. Forty minutes. This is gonna be a good one!!
I thankfully got my DE-10 right before they sold out just before christmas last year. I was super interested when the NeoGeo was being developed, and knew I had to jump in once the CPS-2 was live. Looking forward to more of Jotego's arcade cores that he's got lined up to work on. Recently the PolyGame Master that Video Game Esoterica has been going though reviewing has been on my watchlist, and I think Jotego has that lined up to work on soon, which makes me quite excited.
This is such a wealth of information. Definitely adding this one to Favorites and Watch Later, as I'm sure I'll be referring back to it over and over again, when my MiSTer arrives. Console-accurate gameplay, with the option to use a keyboard and/or mouse to interact with the console, _plus save-states..?_ Yes please!
I rarely use save-states in retro games, preferring to view the possibility of failure as part of the challenge. I mean, if you can't lose, then how can you really say you won, right?
That being said, many RPGs rely heavily on RNG to draw-out the gameplay, and I don't find reloading the game, all the way from boot, to be an efficient use of my time _(looking at you, JRPGs that feature Pick Pocketing!)._
Thank you guys for putting in the time that this subject requires! I bet this video represents _a LOT of work_ on your part!
P.S: Does anyone know if the Sinden Lightgun is supported on the MiSTer?
I've been someone that mostly just emulates consoles on other consoles in ways that are "good enough". My main classic games from the 3rd and 4th gens are on my Wii and Wii U, my OG Xbox runs Arcade games, and I use my Vita for PS1 and PSP stuff. I've also been more interested in picking up handheld hardware alongside flash carts, since those provide the more unique experience to invest in with how high retro game prices are these days.
But I'll admit, this video is at least making me interested in potentially picking up a MiSTer with how detailed and well done it is. Probably won't be for a while since I'm focusing on getting some other hardware mods done on my current stuff and picking up the handhelds I want before they become unobtainable, it's something I'm interested in keeping an eye on for future reference. I'd personally like to wait for a composite output option since I'm very much a composite snob, but then again I still don't have a CRT and have been looking for one for a while. Here's hoping I can find one soon before those get impossible to find too...
But really, anything that benefits game preservation is A-OK in my book. Glad to see this project be as good as it is and am excited to see how PS1, Saturn and 3DO works out! I thankfully have an N64 with a flash cart already, but those other consoles I have to emulate on my PC which isn't very fun for me personally. I prefer playing console games in my room on my bed. If those work out properly, I'll probably get one then. Till then I'll stick with my Wii and Xbox, but I suspect I'll join the MiSTer family earlier then I expect.
Happy to see you guys shining a light again on MiSTer, it really is the best option we have for preserving some of these classic games.
Especially the arcade boards. The MiSTer is the preservation of hw and sw. Its like an exact duplication of the chips kind of.
Thankyou for also covering mt32-pi! Insanely cool video, really enjoyed this one. Cheers 🙂
These guys always going Above and Beyond. Bravo!
Guess what? Nintendo 64 core is being worked on. So good.
Best MiSTer video ever, you guys don’t mess around..
My favorite video of yours. Thanks for making it.
Guys, this is an absolutely outstanding video. You have probably outdone yourselves, and that is already a high bar you've set for yourselves. People will be referring to this as a moment in time for game preservation, and I'm sure subsequent follow-ups to this will be equally as informative. Really appreciate how you've clearly broken down not just the steps of how to prepare and customize the MiSTer, but how you wisely interspersed in-game video and sound between the more technical jargon pieces. It really helped the video remain engaging in what easily could easily have been confusing due to all the features and capabilities of the cores, audio/video tweaks, etc. Bravo, MLIG!
I know that you guys have worked very hard on this one. Congratulations on finishing it! Now for a much deserved rest
Jeez what a long video, and I'm going to watch every second. Thanks for all you do!
As someone who was using the Analogue consoles along with flash carts, the MiSTer has basically made all those redundant for me. To the point where I’ve started selling those off.
I can’t recommend MiSTer enough.
It’s incredible.
Wont sell my super NT having a MiSTer since 2019. I like the hw too much even i dont use it anymore.
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 got plenty of mileage out of my analogue consoles. But since I don’t have the space to set them all up at once, they’ve basically remained in their boxes since I got a MiSTer.
It’s just far more convenient for me.
@@Davitron_87 understandable. ^^
Great to see a mention of the nullobject work. He's been very much missing for a while from the scene since September last year. No updates on his twitter or Patreon. :( I really hope he's ok.
Luckily, he is indeed okay - Mr. Barrett is still working on Cave stuff.
I would love for you guys to cover an episode about cleaning & resurfacing disc-based games, and maybe a comparison of disc resurfacing products used like the SkipDr or the JFJ Easy Pro. 💿
That was a great video, I'll make sure to re-watch certain section a few time to be sure to understand all the capability of some cores. I've been playing with my MiSTer for more than two years and I still learned a lot from that video. Thank you MLiG!! :)
I love my MiSTer FPGA, sold 2 GBA games and a GBC game last year to buy it, and now I can sell anything of those generations and make some money back from the collecting.
Same I’ve sold a bunch of my stuff already because the MiSTer is so good it just replaces everything.
@@Lion-EXE Yep 100%
Sounds kinda wrong to me. I don't feel right playing games I don't own.
It says a lot about pricing in the current retro space that all it took was 2 GBA games and GBC game to purchase it. That just blows my mind.
@@PixelPhoenix Yup and I've got like 30 more complete in box GBA games to sell as well lol. Some of which are worth like 500 bucks.
A close friend of mine is a total sweetheart and is buying me a MiSTer, I'm a little afraid because I'm not much of a programming person but I feel like this video has given me some confidence so thank you so much, can't wait to try it out.
I can't wait to tackle this over the next couple days. I was literally JUST looking for quality overviews of the MiSTer to help determine whether or not I wanna jump in to the platform or stick with real hardware and RetroArch emulation.
Stick with real hardware and retro arch. My system is all retro hardware connected to my Sony pvm and my gaming pc running retroarch with a launchbox front end.
@@itguru2037 I'm currently using real hardware on my Sony Trinitron but given that it isn't RGB modded and doesn't accept S-Video, only composite and component, I have looked at other alternatives to getting a good image out of my CRT. I mostly use component out of my Wii to get super sharp 240p but systems like my N64 still look trashy without hardware mods.
I since ordered an HDMI to YPbPr converter to see if I can get 240p super resolution out of retroarch on my gaming PC over to my CRT.
If it doesn't work out, I might look into MiSTer more in the future tbh.
@@ProphitDesigns nice. All my consoles are rgb
@@itguru2037 Not worth it for me. Especially without already having an RGB monitor. I think it would be easier and much cheaper to just make a solution for the CRT I currently have.
@@ProphitDesigns agree
Incredible episode. Up there with the absolute best
The fastest decade ever 1:42:53🤭
I have watched this video quite a few times already. I learn something new every time.
You forgot to mention the best feature of them all. You can output the GB/GBA link mode to two different screens.
Wow! You guys are awesome. I can only imagine how much work goes into these videos. Loved this one.
Excited to watch this!
Nice. Will add this to the old "watch later" for after work 👍
Some good recent updates on MiSTer front
1:42:53 what happened? There's a pretty good n64 core. Never say never.
Yes the N64 core is an awesome achievement, never say never
Amazing work guys, must have been quite the journey to make!
This video is the best source of information on the Mister FPGA in the entire internet, while also being a lot of fun to watch, congratulations! 👏
2:21:34 T A T E M O D E
That's my favorite part.
It's incredible how much effort you guys put into these videos!
"Screen tearing does rear its ugly head in many situations - although I don't have enough experience on a real PC to know if it was present there as well"
Yes. Yes, it was. PC video hardware did not have a reliable way of reporting blanking intervals until the GPU era. There _is_ an interrupt that can be used for this in VGA, but hardware support is .... uhh... well, let's leave that at "not universal." So most software does not even bother. You get what you get.
I’ve researched the Mister a whole bunch since ordering a DE10-Nano. This might be old, but it is the best intro vid by far.
1:42:57 and just 21 months later this has thankfully aged poorly
N64 core is in the works and already looking stellar
Thank you guys, really! The effort spent in this video is incredible. Thank you! What about a follow up regarding “accuracy level” for the most used cores?
Congratulations on completing this epic video! Now enjoy well deserved rest.