Couldn't stop thinking on how well this video was made so I paused halfway to comment. You've some seriously insightful points and critical thinking skills above us masses. I'm sure we all appreciate how you considered this issue from so many view points, to even mentioning a few situations and considerations the designers at Honda has. This is not hearsay, speculation or just brushing it aside like others. Last but most importantly, you presented your ideas so well despite this train of thought being this complex, and the video editing is the cherry on top. Love the appropriateness of the clips chosen and I love the speedy riding shots, the rest are too pussy to do a review without actually reviewing it. Thanks a ton man..
Alright - so on the weight picking up this bike from the ground: I took regular Africa Twin DCT (first edition - CRf1000l) on amateur rally - super rough conditions (rain,wet grass hill - going up and down - bad tyres for the circumstances TKC80 - it was like riding on the ice, inch too much of the throttle and bike starts spinning - most cases landing on the ground - i was picking it up from the ground like 7-8 times in the row - with no problem really - I could go on but the last fall cause engine protection bar damaging the engine cover, oil leaked - wasn’t able to continue. Few years later I did other amateur rally on Tenere 700 - i picked it up twice and it was tough - 3rd one took me a really long time as I was exhausted and it cost all of my energy - would not be able to do that anymore if that will happen. Maybe It’s just my isolated experience - but because how „thin” the Tenere is and how flat it lays on the ground - eve! though it weight way less the AT it was way more challenging for me to handle offroad with my skills Both bike lands in „heavy” category really - but AT is really not that bad in comparison to things like Tenere - so I disagree on that point - and with both you can do pretty crazy stuff offroad not being Chris Birch - but yes - the less experience skill u have - the more exhausting experience it will be. Of course - AS add some extra limitation coming from extra weight and 19inch front.
Thanks for the video! Nice job presenting the many important aspects. One aspect I have always appreciated in Hondas is the reliability. It is a peace of mind to know your bike will last long and not present high maintenance costs (and surprises).
a very good Video! I really like the technical backside but most channels only show how it sounds, looks and feels. Also i love your comparisons to get the bikes in order, where they are placed!
I really hate when people say things they know nothing about and state it like it is fact coming from someone they dont know. I am an american i own both a DR650 and a super tenere 1200. I know they are not a new motorcycle and for that matter i have never heard or seen anybody here claim they are new or even updated in the least. If you have an opinion state it as so.
The AT AS DCT is an excellent choice for many riders, especially those of shorter stature who spend little time on challenging off road terrain. For serious off road, the standard model weighs considerably less, and is far more rugged in a tip over. The DCT case cover protrudes more and breaks easily. Once you lose your transmission fluid, you are stuck. The limited ground clearance, top heavy nature, and lack of proper 19” off road tire availability also compromise the bike’s suitability for difficult terrain. Honda product planners realized that the majority of purchasers rarely travel off road, so this model is squarely aimed at the largest body of prospective purchasers. The DCT would be the best choice for two up riding. I regret that Honda doesn’t offer the excellent electrically controlled adjustable suspension on the standard model here in the USA. That would be my choice.
Was considering the ATAS24 coming from a Tracer 9gt+ ... not an adventure bike but if you ever come across one I'd love to hear your opinions on it. cheers!!
I love Tracer 9, but in the cheaper versions. The GT+ Pro Max is getting too close to GSX-S1000GX, S1000XR, Versys 1000, etc. The best part of the Tracer 9 - it's funny. Most touring bikes around 1000cc too big to fun - weight, geometry, etc. Cons of the Tracer 9 is scary low ground clearance, and even the GT-suspension is great on spanish twisties, but I wouldn't take it to asian badlands.
wery nice review, the atas really get to much crappy reviews from people unexperienced on the atas.. the 2024 atas is the best Africa Twin so far.. no doubt.
Do you have an ISSUE with Piaggio ?? If yes - plz remind us of the essence..... I ask, because you've included in your comparings' lists, also the Suzuki 1050.... but NOT the new Stelvio ! 🤔🤔
I really like your reviews for a number of reasons. They usually leave me wanting to own the motorcycle you just tested to find out if it makes me feel the same as it did to you, while at no point my sensors tell me that you want to sell that bike to me. Does that make sense?
Can someone please explain what the purpose of a quick-shifter on a motorcycle that is built to spend a lot of its life off-road? To me it seems as out-of-place as putting a gigantic rear wing on a lifted 4X4. Is it just so AT owners can play "sportbike" on the streets, or what?
First, the ATAS is not a motorcycle that spend lots of its life off-road - that's a myth. Secondly, the quickshifter used on some hardenduros. For example, in a loose hill, a quickshifter will allow you to instantly shift gear without losing traction. Thirdly, not a word about quickshifter in the video.
lets face it, that thing is to heavy to ride it really hard. Its for trails and most of them use it only on the road. Its a comfort feature and you don't have to use the qs. A QS can work like a semi automatic
21 inch that was real africa twin , you talking non senses here. was not only ground clearance as well on road bit higher is better view. 19" wheel is exactly the reason to don't buy ATAS.
Great video and review. You are going to kill yourself riding that fast and not leaving room for the « what if »… Very bad example to not follow, sorry.
Couldn't stop thinking on how well this video was made so I paused halfway to comment. You've some seriously insightful points and critical thinking skills above us masses. I'm sure we all appreciate how you considered this issue from so many view points, to even mentioning a few situations and considerations the designers at Honda has. This is not hearsay, speculation or just brushing it aside like others. Last but most importantly, you presented your ideas so well despite this train of thought being this complex, and the video editing is the cherry on top. Love the appropriateness of the clips chosen and I love the speedy riding shots, the rest are too pussy to do a review without actually reviewing it. Thanks a ton man..
great review! You'll be getting more subs for sure
Alright - so on the weight picking up this bike from the ground:
I took regular Africa Twin DCT (first edition - CRf1000l) on amateur rally - super rough conditions (rain,wet grass hill - going up and down - bad tyres for the circumstances TKC80 - it was like riding on the ice, inch too much of the throttle and bike starts spinning - most cases landing on the ground - i was picking it up from the ground like 7-8 times in the row - with no problem really - I could go on but the last fall cause engine protection bar damaging the engine cover, oil leaked - wasn’t able to continue.
Few years later I did other amateur rally on Tenere 700 - i picked it up twice and it was tough - 3rd one took me a really long time as I was exhausted and it cost all of my energy - would not be able to do that anymore if that will happen.
Maybe It’s just my isolated experience - but because how „thin” the Tenere is and how flat it lays on the ground - eve! though it weight way less the AT it was way more challenging for me to handle offroad with my skills
Both bike lands in „heavy” category really - but AT is really not that bad in comparison to things like Tenere - so I disagree on that point - and with both you can do pretty crazy stuff offroad not being Chris Birch - but yes - the less experience skill u have - the more exhausting experience it will be. Of course - AS add some extra limitation coming from extra weight and 19inch front.
Thanks for the video! Nice job presenting the many important aspects. One aspect I have always appreciated in Hondas is the reliability. It is a peace of mind to know your bike will last long and not present high maintenance costs (and surprises).
Dude, this video is a masterpiece.
Competitors make their peak power using premium fuel. I’d prefer cheaper standard fuel that’s always available, no matter where you ride
Very good job. Best review yet!
a very good Video! I really like the technical backside but most channels only show how it sounds, looks and feels. Also i love your comparisons to get the bikes in order, where they are placed!
I really hate when people say things they know nothing about and state it like it is fact coming from someone they dont know. I am an american i own both a DR650 and a super tenere 1200. I know they are not a new motorcycle and for that matter i have never heard or seen anybody here claim they are new or even updated in the least. If you have an opinion state it as so.
The AT AS DCT is an excellent choice for many riders, especially those of shorter stature who spend little time on challenging off road terrain. For serious off road, the standard model weighs considerably less, and is far more rugged in a tip over. The DCT case cover protrudes more and breaks easily. Once you lose your transmission fluid, you are stuck. The limited ground clearance, top heavy nature, and lack of proper 19” off road tire availability also compromise the bike’s suitability for difficult terrain. Honda product planners realized that the majority of purchasers rarely travel off road, so this model is squarely aimed at the largest body of prospective purchasers. The DCT would be the best choice for two up riding. I regret that Honda doesn’t offer the excellent electrically controlled adjustable suspension on the standard model here in the USA. That would be my choice.
18:06 i can confirm it's VERY fast off the line and lots of fun too.
Impressive video with so much detailed points. Thank you
Мы следим за тобой, Волк. И на этом канале тоже. 😅
подпишусь тоже и тут, пусть будет подписчиков побольше
я н понял, это что копипаста?
Do you think it is worth it to upgrade from Transalp to the new ATAS DCT?
Was considering the ATAS24 coming from a Tracer 9gt+ ... not an adventure bike but if you ever come across one I'd love to hear your opinions on it. cheers!!
I love Tracer 9, but in the cheaper versions. The GT+ Pro Max is getting too close to GSX-S1000GX, S1000XR, Versys 1000, etc.
The best part of the Tracer 9 - it's funny. Most touring bikes around 1000cc too big to fun - weight, geometry, etc.
Cons of the Tracer 9 is scary low ground clearance, and even the GT-suspension is great on spanish twisties, but I wouldn't take it to asian badlands.
Reliability is a top priority for me so i choose honda.
wery nice review, the atas really get to much crappy reviews from people unexperienced on the atas.. the 2024 atas is the best Africa Twin so far.. no doubt.
They just need to bring back hydraulic valve lifters, otherwise the valve check is too frequent and too expensive.
Do you have an ISSUE with Piaggio ?? If yes - plz remind us of the essence..... I ask, because you've included in your comparings' lists, also the Suzuki 1050.... but NOT the new Stelvio ! 🤔🤔
19 inch front wheel looks awkward to me. My 22 manual with eera is wonderful for my camping trips.
Where is for v strom 1050 review old 2024. And
Pan amrica
I really like your reviews for a number of reasons. They usually leave me wanting to own the motorcycle you just tested to find out if it makes me feel the same as it did to you, while at no point my sensors tell me that you want to sell that bike to me. Does that make sense?
Todo perfecto gracias, pero lo del asiento 350 kms y no aguanto. Tengo que hacer algo y efectivamente la cúpula debe ser más alta y ancha. Salu2 Pako
Can someone please explain what the purpose of a quick-shifter on a motorcycle that is built to spend a lot of its life off-road?
To me it seems as out-of-place as putting a gigantic rear wing on a lifted 4X4.
Is it just so AT owners can play "sportbike" on the streets, or what?
First, the ATAS is not a motorcycle that spend lots of its life off-road - that's a myth.
Secondly, the quickshifter used on some hardenduros. For example, in a loose hill, a quickshifter will allow you to instantly shift gear without losing traction.
Thirdly, not a word about quickshifter in the video.
lets face it, that thing is to heavy to ride it really hard. Its for trails and most of them use it only on the road. Its a comfort feature and you don't have to use the qs. A QS can work like a semi automatic
Bro there are youtubers doing 130 on dirt with the Africa Twin what the fuck are you talking about? Suspension? I'd say it's skill issue.
21 inch that was real africa twin , you talking non senses here. was not only ground clearance as well on road bit higher is better view.
19" wheel is exactly the reason to don't buy ATAS.
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If you don’t like Hondas just say so! Sheesh!
Wha? I owned a dozen Hondas.
Посмотрите его видео про BMW :D
He’s making valid points
Дубляж стал лучше, но магии голоса нет, сорри. Зачитывай сам!
all would be nice if not honda poor build quality, like welds, frame paint etc etc
One major problem, the 2024 is the ugliest ever twin
And im loving it lol
Damping.
Great video and review. You are going to kill yourself riding that fast and not leaving room for the « what if »… Very bad example to not follow, sorry.
impressive review