Top 5 Things I HATE about the Honda Africa Twin

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  • @sthr2110
    @sthr2110 Рік тому +15

    I paid $16K OTD for my '22 ATAS DCT, in 2022. It had 800 miles on it but also: upper/lower crash bars, bar risers, Corbin seat, 3 piece OEM Honda hard cases, center stand, OEM seat and highway pegs. Since then, I've added many more things (auxiliary lighting, Zumo XT, Bark Busters, Tusk hard and soft panniers, DCT foot shifter, left hand rear brake conversion, tool tube, side stand enlarger, tank bag, protector pads, Altrider headlight guard, fork wind deflector, radiator guards, aftermarket touring windscreen,Touratech chain guard, billet oil cap and dipstick, a half dozen or so action camera/phone/cup holder mounts and a few other, smaller things...LOVE THE BIKE. I've also found it to be very easy to pick up (lowered it to a blanket multiple times, on and off pavement) but, then, I'm 6'3", 225lbs and stronger than average. I can't honestly think of a bad thing to say about it as a one-quiver machine. I have three bikes but will be selling the other two as they are no longer ridden, after buying the AT.

    • @censored4christ162
      @censored4christ162 Рік тому

      Man a klr just doesnt cut it for me and this is arguably maybe a little more than u need or should be buying. 16k is a lot. Man you csn tell honda loves engineering this bike. Its really well done. I cannot afford it wjthout regretting it

    • @Gooby12337
      @Gooby12337 10 місяців тому

      I'm the same exact size as you. Is the AT comfortable?

    • @nogerboher5266
      @nogerboher5266 4 місяці тому

      @@Gooby12337 My brother is 205cm and 98kg, he has a 2007 or 2008 BMW R 1200GS Adventure (Which is the tallest adventure bike ever made) and he also has the older and almost as tall Africa Twin. I am 186cm and 90kg. I can ride his bikes with flat foot on the ground but with BMW my heel is up from the ground but very, very, very slightly, I'm basically flat foot on it too.

  • @kawabungah20
    @kawabungah20 День тому

    Thanks for another nice ride with upbeat commentary! I just bought a '24 AT AS ES DCT. (Ain't that a mouthful of alphabet soup?!) Haven't ridden the new bike yet. (Nor any AT.) However, I'm super excited to pick it up from the dealer and ride it home!! I sat on it at the showroom floor and immediately liked it. DCT sounds like something new to try. I definitely wanted Barkbusters, a centerstand, and a toe-shifter. So they're installing those options for me. This will be a couple of notches up the "modern machine scale" from my '22 KLR650 ABS. Your enthusiasm is infectious for sure! Ride safe and we'll see you out there.

  • @markrutherford7798
    @markrutherford7798 Рік тому +2

    I have a 2020 Twin AS ES and concur with the carplay issues. I have found a startup sequence that works most of the time. Start headset first. Start bike second. Connect iPhone to lighting connector last. This pattern seems to work fairly well. Also, the iPhone Bluetooth must be turned off in my case so my iPhone does not connect to the headset first. Lastly, to get music to play, I always close all apps on the iPhone before I start the above sequence - otherwise the system is confused. I too wish it was so much simpler.
    Regarding the weight, it is heavy and one does get used to it. I had an accident on asphalt end on last November where I ran over some spilled oil on the road and has traction control set to 2, Bike spun out at 10 mph, fell on my right leg and broke it in three places. While I felt no pain at the moment of impact, the cost to repair my leg cost me three fully outfitted Africa Twins.

    • @dalejones6627
      @dalejones6627 Рік тому

      My GL has same issue with CarPlay. I will try your sequence.
      Did traction control not interrupt throttle causing spin?

    • @yo_marc
      @yo_marc 9 місяців тому

      What if I only want to use CarPlay for maps/navigation, and not anything audio related - is CarPlay any better in that case? I hope the bikes don’t require you to also be paired to an audio device.

  • @GrijzeRemmel
    @GrijzeRemmel Рік тому +3

    You're still lucky with those prices... Here in the Netherlands we pay €23300 (!) for a new ATAS with DCT, and prices will rise again

  • @dalejones6627
    @dalejones6627 Рік тому +3

    Perhaps it would be less expensive if it only came with one handgrip, since you use only one anyway.

  • @terrystratford1235
    @terrystratford1235 Рік тому +1

    I test rode the 2023 Suzuki v strom 1050de and really really liked it, wanted to buy it! The dealer arranged a test on the AT base model with dct, so I rode that and OMG...amazing doesn't do it justice! £13067 v strom 1050de is £13677. They had a ATAS all singing and dancing, black, they offered it to me for £14000 as they had it for a while! I asked if I could test ride, but they didn't have a demo. It's about 50kilos heavier and that worries me as I want to do byroads!

  • @gustafjacobson6558
    @gustafjacobson6558 3 місяці тому

    I have a 2017 dct trico today. Been riding it last 2,5 years and about 20000kms. It’s a totally fantastic bike. So good on gravel and country roads and also on some trickier forest trails 😛
    But on mine I think the 95hp engine is too small especially driving highways fully loaded with bags for longer trips.
    I’m most likely upgrading to a 2023 ATAS next week , knowing it’s only 7HP extra but I could never switch to a KTM1290, triumph 1200 or BMW1250/1300. The Honda is just too good looking and runs so great and reliable ❤️👍🏻💪🏻

  • @JEDIKLOTZ
    @JEDIKLOTZ Місяць тому

    I just bought a 2019 ATAS manual with the Honda quick shifter for 10k 4300 miles like new! I think is a better bike than the Transalp, They had the new 2024 ATAS and standard on the floor and I do like the red with the mountian silhouette looks really good! but I just couldn't pay 6k more for basically the same bike. Thanks for the videos!

  • @armored-clown
    @armored-clown Рік тому +1

    I've narrowed in on the Africa Twin after riding my 2014 Honda CB500X with Rally Raid kit for the last 2 years to learn and get better at riding. Biggest reason why i'm wanting to pick one up is because i'm 6'3" 200lbs and ride 2up a lot with my kids or wife so def need the power. I also broke my left foot in 3 places last summer and manual shifting is just not working anymore so the DCT will be a godsend for me.

  • @AT2021Rocker
    @AT2021Rocker Рік тому +3

    Air filter servicing is dumb, display load up a bit slow but other than that they are awesome.

  • @willieoneill1
    @willieoneill1 11 місяців тому

    Africa Twin is a great bike ,, and particularly the 1000 ,,, fantastic engine ,, accurate handling ,, prob one of the best bikes i've owned

    • @aronPru2660
      @aronPru2660 10 місяців тому

      All good except for that terrible display and button cluster which is confusing as hell

  • @petro77vitch
    @petro77vitch 17 днів тому

    i think the atas is the most beautiful adv/road bike. I ride the gs 1250 adventure..i thinking of buying the honda atas 24 next..just i bit afraid that it lacks power with the 102 hp compared to the gs.. and wondering if the seatheight matches a 6'6 rider? cheers and thanks for the video.

  • @Sinatra192
    @Sinatra192 Рік тому +4

    I just started riding last year on a Honda ctx700. Thinking of trading it in for an Africa Twin. Im 5’9 with a 32’ inseam so kinda worried about how tall the bike is. Love the look of the bike and the various tech on the bike. Hopefully plan to test ride one soon to see how it feels actually sitting on it

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      if you get the seat concepts low seat you should be fine. It's not so much the height of the bike but the weight.

    • @cs5842
      @cs5842 Рік тому

      Same height, you'll be fine.

  • @armored-clown
    @armored-clown Рік тому

    TECHNIE WHATS UP! Been subbed to your Technie channel for years and randomly saw you are into this sport too with a separate channel. Subbed again keep up the good work brother.

  • @Old1Biking
    @Old1Biking Рік тому +2

    Good pointers about what you are seeing with the AT. I am shopping for one at this time in Canada and the problem we have up here is we are locked into either the Regular Twin or a full blown Adventure Sports with the Electronic Suspension. I like the size/width and weight of the base twin but would like the new adjustable windshield from the 23 adventure sports and the tubeless tires. And don’t really need or want the larger fuel tank. Nowhere can I find a review with anybody raving about a decent aftermarket windscreen for the regular twin. Fitting up the regular twin with tubeless tires ends up costing more than the adventure sports edition and your are missing out on the electronic suspension. So I think I will likely just end up just going with the full meal deal.

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому +1

      yeah I was in the same mind set. I really wanted the tubules tires, and if I wanted tubules on the base twin, I would be right at the adventure price.

  • @rickalexander3573
    @rickalexander3573 Рік тому

    I just got an Africa Twin. I really like the bike. We just got back from Colorado,and the bike did great. I knew the bike was somewhat heavy for the class it was in,luckily I didn't drop it. The thing I hate the most about this bike is how hard the electronics are. I had to go to you tube to figure out how to do anything with it!

  • @hafezi77
    @hafezi77 Рік тому

    nice honest sharing bro.. enjoy your ride.. i am still counting to get her..

  • @canadiancowboy89able
    @canadiancowboy89able Рік тому +1

    I love my 22 ATAS! I bought it so I can go wherever I want and the seat height! Being a taller rider at 6'2" it's hard to get comfortable on an average size bike.

  • @RHaidar-PJ
    @RHaidar-PJ 6 місяців тому

    Great video man. Just bought. new AFAS mannual. Any good 50 50 adventure bikes you recommend money being no issue. Thanks bro
    By the way what are those tyres you have on? Look stunning.
    Also, what do you think of a quick shifter for this bike?

  • @fleshpie2129
    @fleshpie2129 Рік тому

    you should do quick video on its own how Carplay is working or not working on africa twin

  • @mindofmonster
    @mindofmonster Місяць тому

    Don't want to get ripped off? There's only one place to go. M&E Honda in Bedford Illinois. They they are mecca for Africa Twin and they don't add dealer prices! They have 27 in stock at any given time. If you know you know and now you know!

  • @ciocanelwar
    @ciocanelwar Рік тому

    I live in Europe, got a quote for the basic and non DCT version at 15k euro and I added everything on it, except some stickers for the luggage and the side panniers (wasn't interested).
    Sadly the dealer had only the DCT version available for test and it was awful, especially in the corners (yes, I tried all the settings still felt lagging in corners), my gf complained that on trail roads her spine was taking a beating.
    Went for the Desert x in the end, liked the retro dakar look and the tubeless tires ( I'm not made of money, i just had the once in a lifetime opportunity to get a Ducati).
    I still love Hondas and maybe in a few years I'll be owning a Africa Twin.

  • @kevinsears7382
    @kevinsears7382 Рік тому

    I paid $12K out the door and delivered for my new '19 ATAS in spring of 2020. Honda did a one-year same as cash finance and I put five grand down and paid it off in eight months. Perri's Motorsports in Grand Junction delivered it NO CHARGE to La Veta, a 10 hour+ round trip. My wife and I had just sold our old XT600's and she inherited a DR650 from her mother and had just bought a 650 Vstrom. I wanted one bike that would go anywhere that she would go on either of her bikes (she's a Brokaw and hails from a legendary motorcycling family...I'm just chopped liver). Once I test rode the AT, I knew it was the bike for my wants. I'm 5'10, 195 lbs and not a lot of fat. The bike's weight was not a problem, but I did buy the optional low seat. I can almost go flat footed, and for touring I prefer the high position or even the high seat for comfort. The AT doesn't seem big anymore, but most other bikes just seem small. I bought a suspension lowering kit just in case, but never had it installed. I've put about 12K miles on the bike, and the roughest ride I've done is Cordova Pass on the south side of Spanish Peaks. It was a breeze, and I had no problem keeping pace with two DR650's and a KTM300XC.
    The problem now is that I have a bike that can do out of state BDR's, her Vstrom isn't right for her in the rough stuff, and her DR won't handle the touring well enough. She's content with what she has and enjoys touring, wining and dining or short dual sport rides, but I'd really like to do a BDR with her and a small group. I've also owned a slew of dirt bikes and a KZ1000ST back in the 80's as a Marine in SoCal, then for a spell after finishing my enlistment.
    Upgrades I've made: Continental TKC 80's, factory panniers and top case, Atlas throttle lock, Auxbeam auxiliary lights, tank bag and crash bar bags...mods I plan on are larger windscreen and a tubeless rim set and a soft, rackless bag set. All said, the ATAS is still my dream bike and I can't imagine parting with it.

  • @veiledallegory
    @veiledallegory 7 місяців тому +1

    Apple Carplay is actually not very hard once you learn the proper procedures!

  • @brianhoward9217
    @brianhoward9217 Рік тому

    Absolutely LOVE your passion and enthusiasm for this incredible bike. Thanks for a great informative and entertaining vid. I have just had a test ride on the top-line AT with DCT and ES - the bike I would ideally buy, just like yours. I'm coming off a 2014 Multistrada which is NOT an offroad bike but was and still is marketed as one. I use 90% on road and the Ducati is beyond awesome in handling and power. Unfortunately, even though I've had it since new, it is less than reliable and quality nowhere near Honda. I'm sick of it letting me down. Only has 3,500kms but has been unreliable since new with oil leaks, malfunctions and zero rear brake(!). Therefore the only thing I can see that the Ducati can offer over the AT is 30% more power and arguably some sharper handling. I found the AT handling to be absolutely everything I'd want and need - nice and light, turn in quickly and very forgiving. The power, after the Ducati, I would describe as 'adequate' and 'acceptable' - not exciting like the 150HP Multistrada. I left the test ride wondering if I'd be happy with the power and for a few days I pondered this. THEN I saw some leaks on the web from a supposedly very reliable source about a SUPERCHARGED AT in the wings at Honda supposedly coming out as the 2024 model. So I'm waiting! A supercharger would be a no brainer as this one is said to be specifically for low-mid range boost, not a screamer like the Kawa H2. Thanks again for a great vid, keep up the fantastic reviews. Cheers from Sydney Australia.

  • @Randomas32
    @Randomas32 Рік тому +1

    Hey mate I like your clips very much, but please tell me how many inches or cms did you cut down your givi ? Cheers

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому +1

      3” but dont cut yours based on mine. Do yours based on your height, along with your preferred view.
      I cut mine to be able to see over at the lowest position. Anything higher is for roads/highways

  • @AdvBrewery
    @AdvBrewery Рік тому

    I love my twin!
    Those roads are twin territory for sure. NIce vid

  • @andrewvanstaden8922
    @andrewvanstaden8922 Рік тому +1

    So.. in it's class, what is lighter?

  • @THELASTRID3R
    @THELASTRID3R 7 місяців тому +1

    Dude what do you think about the 24 AT? Thinking about picking one up?

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  7 місяців тому

      They look great. I’ll be picking one up as well

    • @THELASTRID3R
      @THELASTRID3R 7 місяців тому

      @@adventureundone dude question, so what’s your plan on purchasing a 24 AT? I called all of my local dealers and they have no information. I called Honda and they have no information either… Did you put down a deposit, does your local dealer have an allocation?

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  7 місяців тому +1

      @@THELASTRID3R same boat as you, nothing solid yet. But Honda said in May they will start arriving in the US

  • @toltod
    @toltod Рік тому

    My buddy has one. Its just kinda expensive for what you get...I'd rather go for Triumph 1200 or a Norden. I'm not a fan of how the dash works or having it switch to default settings when you power off the bike. My wife hates the pillion seat so it would be terrible for me as 2up riding. Plus I've seen the hassle it is to get to the airbox (triumph is no better). Plus the cheaper Africa Twin still uses tubes and the earlier models had suspension defects. If Honda would have put cruise control on the new Transalp I would have been a happy camper....but I'm probably getting one of those other bikes I mentioned. Thank you for sharing you insight on your bike. Glad you are very happy with your purchase....just hope I choose wisely. Cheers!

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      Agree, CC on the transalp would have been great!

    • @konstantinw.1036
      @konstantinw.1036 4 місяці тому

      Yotube varahannes 500 000 km on his africa twin with 1 defect. 5 triumph life times and still going

  • @czikenxjr5584
    @czikenxjr5584 Рік тому +2

    hi could you send me link with givi windshield what you got please .

    • @Hookmeister
      @Hookmeister 5 місяців тому

      Just reading your comment and wondering the same thing.

  • @virginialax03
    @virginialax03 Рік тому

    What kind of MPG do you get with your AT?

  • @tommyboy6025
    @tommyboy6025 11 місяців тому

    Greta video👍 but if you talking about price and others things then compare it with bmw gs and choice it’s Africa… gs it’s beautiful and best bike but weight it’s what I chose it..

  • @lucaseq77
    @lucaseq77 Рік тому

    Beautiful Forrest
    ...where is it?

  • @ncmotorider
    @ncmotorider Рік тому +3

    I couldn’t finish the video…10 minutes in and you haven’t gotten to number 3…

  • @chrishall734
    @chrishall734 Рік тому

    I came from a beginner bike that had a under seat petrol tank so it had a low centre of gravity but yet I find the Africa twin works better at low speeds then that did and don’t notice the weight, although I am 6ft2. Apple car play works great for me. I plan routes on Google maps whilst listening to music

  • @TheZakkmylde
    @TheZakkmylde 8 місяців тому

    Hey champ question, just bought a new A-T and I’m curious how many auxiliary plugs are available because if you add heated grips there should be a plug under the tank or headlight somewhere but if you also add fog lights, is there another plug available or are you wiring it straight to your battery cause I see a switch on your left side?

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  8 місяців тому

      I wired mine straight to batt, as it came with heated grips. But even on other bikes, I go direct to batt

    • @TheZakkmylde
      @TheZakkmylde 8 місяців тому

      @@adventureundone ya ok. Was hoping something off ignition to avoid battery drain as I’m forgetful 😝

  • @tonyseeley
    @tonyseeley Рік тому

    Headset connection requirement with Apple CarPlay has nothing to do with Honda. It's a requirement by Apple. You can't use Car Play (according to Apple) if you don't have a microphone connected. (This is of course BS but it's how it works). I have a 2022 Goldwing that also has the same CarPlay and use it all the time. It works brilliantly, never have any issues, so not sure why it's troublesome for you.

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      As said in the vid, I want it to be as simple as plug and play like in cars.

  • @MAKB187
    @MAKB187 3 місяці тому

    PSA you can be 5'4" and ride one of these the whole height question isn't needed lol, Joslyn snow is 5 foot rides gs 1250 off-road.

  • @BuckyUSA
    @BuckyUSA Рік тому

    Any paint issue? I hear and see horror stories on Africa twins where the subframe are painted like shit.

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      no paint issues at all. Now the decals on the plastics did peel a little

    • @BuckyUSA
      @BuckyUSA Рік тому

      @@adventureundone well that’s better than a KTM I once saw on the show room floor. They were coming off and it didn’t even have any miles on it lol.

  • @Qbase2505
    @Qbase2505 8 місяців тому

    Well. An adventure africa twin in denmark costs around 319.000 danish kroner, which comes to around 47.000 dollars... 😂

  • @denismustafa4225
    @denismustafa4225 Рік тому

    Own one and love it....

  • @mloclam6917
    @mloclam6917 Рік тому

    You had me at the price because when you change the dollar price to the British pound then that is ridiculous

  • @mojo4376
    @mojo4376 Рік тому +20

    Maybe do your video….then ride?

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      are you saying, do like a camera talk, and overlay with riding video? I thought about that as well. I hate the windy sound when talking and riding

    • @timesarrow100
      @timesarrow100 Рік тому +4

      No, maybe just get to the point of the video?

    • @davidmark866
      @davidmark866 Рік тому

      Your content seems valid, but the delivery gets off track. Probably because you’re riding off track. Maybe try a nice easy cruise or an audio overlay in editing. Cheers.

  • @johanandersson7601
    @johanandersson7601 Рік тому

    About Carplay, I run with Android and I really like it. So maybe it's the user that's do something wrong.

  • @th.blacksheep
    @th.blacksheep Рік тому +1

    i agree everything you say about the transalp, disappointing.

  • @Rick-4552
    @Rick-4552 Рік тому

    The two speedometers are kinda crazy

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      yeah I use to think the same, but when using apple car play the lower one is handy

  • @MtbPoland
    @MtbPoland Рік тому +4

    If you hate it, may I have it? :-)

  • @Ziogas-spiros
    @Ziogas-spiros Рік тому

    The most expensive version in Greece cost 21.550 euro

  • @funyun
    @funyun Рік тому

    The placement of the air filter sucks, and I hope the transalp filter is under the seat

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому +1

      I haven't messed with mine yet, I probably should and your making me nervous, lol

    • @funyun
      @funyun Рік тому

      ​@@adventureundoneyou will have to take your crash bar and fender off, just to get to the air filter

    • @pigmeal2224
      @pigmeal2224 Рік тому

      It's not. I have a feeling it's worse than AT ... 🤦🤦

  • @dantheman4life
    @dantheman4life Рік тому

    I like that... the weight is almost as bad as the price lol!

    • @censored4christ162
      @censored4christ162 Рік тому

      Faster than a klr bro. I just dont want to buy one and then need a dental surgury or something and u had eished i bought a klr and still had some money to buy time making payments on the dental surgury with a ride capable of getting me to a job. If i buy this and then if something like a wound infection comes up im going to have a really nice bike but not as easily accessable cash fof if i need a plane ticket or something idk

  • @motokev2727
    @motokev2727 8 місяців тому

    I'll keep riding my 1k cc vstrom

  • @hybern8ta
    @hybern8ta Рік тому +2

    Stop buying apple crap and blame it on honda...

    • @adventureundone
      @adventureundone  Рік тому

      I have owned multiple Honda cars and Apple works gone with them. I even mow my lawn with my Honda mower with my air pods in, perfectly fine 🤣

  • @kennyb7883
    @kennyb7883 Рік тому

    To bad they've already discontinued it

  • @182mcg1
    @182mcg1 Рік тому +1

    How to run this bike when u luse keys far away from the civilisation

    • @Honda_Africa_Twin
      @Honda_Africa_Twin Рік тому +1

      How do you run any bike when you lose your keys far away from civilization?

    • @182mcg1
      @182mcg1 Рік тому +1

      Old one easily.
      What's the point of an immobilizer in a motorcycle if they'll steal it from you by loading it on a van

    • @182mcg1
      @182mcg1 Рік тому +1

      If you have a new motorcycle I have a security from the Can bus line no one is able to start this motorcycle even if he replaces the computer in the motorcycle cost of such a device about $300 SEO CANblu.
      I recommend everyone dedicated to cars and custom motorcycles

  • @kemadat
    @kemadat Рік тому

    If U don't like the price don't buy it simple

  • @bikenbush
    @bikenbush Рік тому

    😂 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

  • @Sweeedy1
    @Sweeedy1 Рік тому

    Allot of NOT about the title.

  • @priv9468
    @priv9468 Місяць тому

    Too long didn’t watch

  • @Danfranco
    @Danfranco Рік тому

    That cable issue for Android and apple it's a major issue. It's a simple fix too lazy by honda. They have proven you can update the system so let's go