2024 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports ES | First Ride With Chris
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- Chris spends some quality time on and off-road with the 2024 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports ES, he's even named it!
#honda #offroad #adventurebike - Авто та транспорт
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My favourite bike reviewers are Simon Hargreaves, Chris Moss and Michael Neeves, but Chris N can ride the wheels off anything, on road, off road and on the track. His unbridled enthusiasm, optimistic and happy disposition, is infectious. Definitely not the 'Dave' of bike journos, he really knows his stuff. I'd watch him reviewing a zimmer frame.👏🤜👍
Totally agree.
add Zack Courts to that 🙂
More of Chris!
That’s exactly why I have a Honda ATAS, is not the best at anything, but is good a everything. I love this bike.
The standard AT 2024 model is an absolute bargain, £13199 with great torquey engine, tubeless rims, cruise control, great fairing/adjustable screen, Apple car play, comfortable seat (it breaks in after a few long rides, great gearbox, rear rack and looks great. Sounds great too with the standard silencer 👍🏻
Very expensive with a few must have options, though. I put one together on the Honda configurator, and got £16000 for the standard version and £20500 for the Adventure Sport. I test rode a standard model a fortnight ago, and I really loved it. But I'll wait until 2026 to buy a 2024 model...
The standard silencer can be a real pain - The inbuilt valve sticks.. I did like it, but it's now in my shed.. I have fitted a great aftermarket can.
Best bike reviewer there is.
When Chris described “Dave’s” characteristics, I thought of a Honda Civic or an Accord (reliable, does everyday things just fine) and then, right after that description, Chris passed a whole troop of Daves, presumably running to the car park 😊 There’s a tiny bit of the Apple vs IBM ad about that.
Sorry the cars were like that, in yesteryears - long time ago.
Perfect review. Made all the right points. I have had both a 2020 standard and now a 2023 adventure sport and couldn’t agree more
Couldn't help notice you were listening to Municipal Waste🤘🤘🤘🤘
That's what we call PBS radio here in the US.
Brilliant review. Thanks.
Call me old-school, but I enjoy the hand clutching.
top review mate love it!!
best bike reviewer on the planet. period...
Another great review cheers Chris. Lots of people will be interested in which bikes you currently own, have owned, regret selling & dream bikes…
I agree Chris...... I'm not ready to lose my clutch lever for a few more years. Saying that, I've just bought my first bike with a centre stand so who knows what I'll buy next.
If you’ve never driven a DCT i implore you to try it, you’ll never go back
There’s something about “middle of the road” that speaks to longevity and frugality; most reviews are pretty silent about both.
Great review. The way Honda has gone with the Adventure Sport in 2024 makes even more sense when you look at the upgrades/options on the Standard model. Smart move I reckon.
We need more drag racing lol, maybe even timed laps around a circuit between the boys comparing bikes. You’d be surprised how many people would want to see an Africa twin vs 890 adv or 1290vs GS drag race or laps around brands hatch or something. Doesn’t always have to be superbikes and supernakeds.
Very good review with quality opinions based on experience and real world use.
very well done chris!
Chris!! M1000xr review please 🤯
Chris is the best. I need a ninja 400rr after his review and I have a 1000sx because of his review. I don’t ride off road now but I did, he has amazing skills.
Finally. APPLE CAR PLAY. YES!!!!
Nice honest review,
Spot on review. I have one and it is always thrill to ride, reliable, dependable, will do everything and won't ask questions. The best all around bike money can buy, INHO.
Great video 👍👍
Dct is a game changer for older riders and has massively expanded the user base of the motorcycle market so huge winner *(still...been in production many Years now)* for Honda. Interesting take on off road bike/all arounder.
yes , older , but its ultra high performance as in exotic supercars
I would love to try the DCT. I have arthritis horrible in my hands and I struggle with feathering the clutch at times. I'm very interested.
I have the Honda Crosstourer Dct and it is superb. Had the manual crosstourer and changed to Dct due to carpal tunnel syndrome. Dct is like witchcraft lol it just works in some magic way.
For an adventure bike to be dependable, is sexy.
Chris, thank you for highlighting the (for me deal-killing) problems with the lack of a clutch on automatic transmission bikes, like Honda's DCT's and all e-motos. Having the ability to disengage the motor from the drive train is something I would think they could do on these bikes, but to my knowledge, none do.
You can. You press the N button.
Awesome video! It seems that this is the direction of cars and motorcycles. It's definitely not my cup of tea. I want to be part of the experience of riding my bike or driving my car for that matter. So, I view it as sad , quite honestly. In the next few years all that will be available is parallel twins with DCT. Honda has read the future. In the meantime I am happy my truck is a manual and my bike is too. Your videos are a joy to watch. Best!
Agree
Having owned a NC750X DCT for two years and loved it, this is the next step, test rode one and yes it is brilliant. But for one thing, the price, so me, I'll wait until there are good 2nd hands out there. Try one they are good
You need to try the DCT with the foot gear change...its an absolute game changer.
I used to run in Sport mode and downshift on the paddle, now its D mode and a quick downshift on the gear lever. Makes a great bike even better.
The whole problem is people think it’s 1971 with the friggin general motors two speed powerglide and automatic 40 or 50 years ago is not a automatic today just ask Ferrari or anybody else who doesn’t even offer. A manual transmission peoples heads are in the Stone Age.
@@Roberta_Esposito This.
Best bike, best review
Clutch all the way. Long live the clutch!!
9:00 Funny what you mention here, this is exactly why I got the africa twin.
10:35 I kind of disagree with you there. I really enjoyed the niche that the 'old' non-adventure sports bike resided in. Between the extremely off-road focused twin cylinders like the T7 and Tuareg, yet being much more capable offroad than its fatter siblings and cousins. It fits very well with the 'jack of all trades' character.
Also, another advantage of not being completely bonkers, is a low compression ratio and thus high reliability!
It might be a bit too dependable and 'nice' but it's a bloody great looking bike.
Dude, Bat Sabbath FTW 🤘🤘🤘
I've got a DCT NT1100 and your analogy about Dave is pretty accurate. It's not exciting but it is really good. Also I find u-turns, particularly clockwise quite tricky, but the DCT shouldn't stall so that's a bonus.
How is it? I was thinking of getting one as it looks easy to use in and out the city,lots of storage as well.
@@zidisrider It's not the most attractive or exciting bike I've ever owned but it's so quietly capable that I've done 4,000 miles on it since I bought it in November 2023. Excellent MPG, enough power, super smooth and comfortable, even sounds good but I just wish it looked a bit more pretty.
@reverendhoover Well it does what it supposed to do ! It's like a very Big scooter ! I think it looks very good in the white colour with the luggage
Cracking bikes and I love the looks of them, the styling is very much on point. Unfortunately they are just a bit too tall and top heavy for me .. and I have no intention of going any further off road than a gravel car park .... so I settled for the NT1100 - same engine and frame but much more road biased with 17" wheels and a proper touring fairing and wind screen. Wider than the AT but not as tall, its still a heavy bike but the weight is low enough for me to manage ... and I still get that lovely big thumping AT engine 😉
An adventure bike designed for how it will be mainly used. Don’t fancy the DCT but if I had issues with arthritis for example, it would be a great option.
I have a 2022 gs1250 done a few big europe treks, Doing another shorty and the way you describe the africa twin is how I feel about the gs. Not brilliant at anything but good at everything.
how tall are you mate? just to get a reasonable comparison for seat height ?
Yep, couldn't agree more. Every Dave I've known seems to be a "middle of the road" guy. He doesn't pursue riches and he certainly doesn't want to fall into poverty. Dave just enjoys being in the middle where he doesn't stand out and draw too much attention to himself. And this is why most people enjoy Dave's company. On the other hand, Tom, Dick and Harry seem to get the stranger women. Just saying. Anyhow, the AF seems to have a middle of the road following wherewithal it is just right! Good analogy.
Like Chris, I still want my bike with a clutch. But DAAM, that Honda looks purty (minus the WRX muffler) 😎😎
The Headlight must be connected with Streeing so that it exactly focuses light during Night time travel.Excellect review video
The bike uses the 6 axis IMU to turn on the cornering lights and has a light sensor to turn on the main beam when is dark if you are running only in drl .
@@man16812 Thank you very much for updating my knowledge
I love the sound of new Africas Twin engines... like a propper V90°
wtf?! wym
Just needs shaft drive and bam. Perfection for touring
Other than the 19" front wheel what is the difference between the 24 and the 22 AT ADVENTURE ES DCT ?
Got the Rebel with the DCT for my wife . I actually like it works really well , but like you said i wouldn’t buy it for myself.
12:33 min , can we use the usb port in rain ? won't it damage/short the phone or the usb port ??
Chris another great video, when are you hooning on new Husqvarna Svarpilen 801😊😂😂😂
Is this similar to a Gsf 650/1250 suzuki bandit or sweeter?
DCT on a Goldwing is a delight
The DCT is great
Great review of "Dave the bike." Honda should have put the NT1100 muffler on this bike, and added 3L capacity to the right side pannier. The only other miss on an otherwise good bike (first is the stupid screen adjustment mechanism). Well okay, the new childish graphics are pretty garish too.
Does it sit as high?? The AT was so tall
in addition to automatic and manual modes, you can also tell the DCT to shift while in automatic mode, and it'll go to the gear you want for a few seconds before going back to the automatic mode logic. pretty cool, but not for me. i rented a rebel 1100 DCT and even on a cruiser i've learned i'm a manual shift person all the way. i don't even like quickshifters. i've had two bikes with QS and i gave it a try for the first few hundred miles each time, to see if it would grow on me, and i wound up turning it off both times. shifting manually is just more fun. i'm not chasing the fastest lap, i'm chasing fun. the automatic was fun for a four day rental, but i would never want it on a bike i owned.
Hey Chris…It’s Dave. How the f- did you describe me so perfectly?
I bought a DCT VFR1200X last year, I immediately missed the gear lever, so I bought a foot change lever, riding a DCT with this means you can ride in manual mode as if you're riding with a bike with a quickshifter, but it has made me lazy, when I ride a normal bike with a clutch I forget I have to pull the clutch when coming to a stop, and end up stalling the bike, I'm torn between this Africa Twin and the Guzzi Stelvio, Stelvio demo ride book in 2 days!
Is it available in manual?
Dont like big tank , higher weith .dct.. Therefore i byed the 2023 standard red , quickchifer , hyperpro rear - 3omm lowerd the frontforks dropped 15mm love the bike , dont like overdoe of the electronics , had only 1 recal to replace tft screen , under warranty , woudend mind to upgrate to the 2024- standard-do😄..greatings from belgium... nb great review btw😎
The only problem is there are other "middle of the road" bikes for less money. It's USP is the DCT and the phone integration.
Also the long range of the AS, looks and reliability. Sure for my money I could have gone for a Vstrom 1050, but I wouldn’t have the looks, CarPlay and long range of fuel.
Plz review road and off road test of M1000xr
This looks like the adventure bike most people should be buying instead of the ones that are trying to be enduro bikes.
That makes no sense..
@@slakk5093
A large percentage of people in the market for the ATV motorcycles are buying these bikes for the image.
These large capacity adventure tourers are north of 250kg once you add crash protection and luggage racks.
Do you really want to try and pick that up once you take a slip on a muddy trail?
Honda are offering a bike with the ATV image, long travel suspension and a comfortable, tall riding position, but less compromised for road riding than before.
Sounds like an updated Yamaha Super Tenere. I would go for the manual version.
Need a back to back as still hankering after another tiger 900 rally pro.
Seat height?
Yes then Chris blasting the municipal Waste lol
Are you guys going to something with the honda e-clutch system?
We have been on the launch, the vids coming soon.
@@BikeWorldTVshow perfect!
Since there is quickshifter I would never even dream of having a DCT. For more sport oriented drivers, scooter type system is a no go.
It's nothing like a scooter system though. That's what a many don't realise. It's more like the dual clutch, seamless shift that Motogp bikes had.
I noticed the 2024 AT is in short supply in North America. Some dealers have them listed as "taking deposits". Anyone know when they will be available?
Transalps are everywhere.
They’re starting to pop up on cycle trader.
Obrigado pela tradução português Brasil
So its basically a Honda being , well , a Honda , should suit me fine being a Dave :) unfortunately this Dave cannot afford this premium machine ! think my transalp is def my Dave bike
Looks like a good all round tourer, but I think I will keep my Tenere 1200 which sounds similar but with shaft drive, less electronics, longer major service interval 42000 km's and less $.
why they switch to 19? i also dont know. will wait for the 21 to come back
They have a 21 also.
Feel like this move towards a road bias, will suit more customers to be honest.
For me Apple car play is this bikes biggest selling point, I wish BMW would learn this
13:54 this scene in particular makes it look like a police bike. especially with the frame rate mismatch making the running lights strobe.
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Chris only
Could've used manual mode to hold the gears.
Dave??!! It really contrasts with Dave K5 the Gixxer from Revzilla.... So what's Dave's real personality?
Africa Twin or BMW GS???
So is Honda going to make transalp more off-roady now ? The more we look at how Honda’s strategies are being played out, the more confusing it becomes.
E-Clutch should supplant the DCT.
“Baffle h…”
When I tell people it's basically automatic they think like a car transmission. It's not like that at all
Life's too short man, £17k for Dave 😂
Oh my god I’m an African twin
If it had a shaft drive, I'd buy it. Not going back to a chain again
Is it EVER dry in England?
❤ from INDIA
No shaft. Needs more HP.
That design is old as F. Same level of the " new " GS, also 19 front. DCT for touring and city, YES, for off road not a chance.
If this bike had no apple car play, no modes and no traction control, I'd buy one and I would have a 21" front wheel as a spare
Chris you need a Bluetooth dongle, then you can keep your phone in your pocket and still have Apple CarPlay going. 👍
But i dont want automatic.
I don't understand why raising and lowering wind protection is a problem. You stop, lift it, and continue... what's the problem? Who stops every 10 minutes to raise and lower wind protection, so they have to make it so it can be raised and lowered with one finger.
‘I don’t understand why using a clutch when shifting gears is a problem. You pull the clutch, shift gears, and on you go. Quickshifters are useless’
Comon man. It’s called technological progress.
People have lost touch with reality. Take everyone's opinions with a big pinch if salt.
@@juliusjacob1416 Quickshifter makes sense on a sports bike on the track, it doesn't have any logic on a touring or ADV bike.
@@zivanovic018 both windscreen and quickshifters simply provide comfort. why not have the option if you pay 20 grand for a bike?
@@zivanovic018 If you're commuting it makes perfect sense, not everyone rides in just a straight line like you. Anyone that does 15k+ miles each year commuting will easily tell you that they prefer not using the clutch.
Surely there is no point in this bike if you are going touring. Won’t the NT1100 be better in every way? Sure it’s bland but it’s not as if an Africa twin is going to make your heart race either
It seems like a good bike,similar to NT1100 but...for £17K you can get anything on the market right now,i don't think sales will be great... I said it 1000 times and i will say it again...If they want a road capable bike to go against the others (s1000xr,1290,tiger 1200 etc) they need to put their beautiful 4 cylinder engine to an adventure body ! BMW did it,KTM did it,Suzuki did it...Only Honda amd Yamaha are still sleeping and they both have amazing 4 cylinder engine ! As appereance the africa twin especially with the crash bars are amazing but that engine...I know...Twin is the name...Suzuki smashed it with their new 4cylinder