@@kashiffarees881 if assume that'd just make him pronounce things phonetically not totally jumble them but I don't know anything about this kind of stuff
Why aren't you using induced amnesia for its intended purpose when it's not going to work on your opponent and your hand is not going to get you there?
@@mad_max21 if you don't like him stop watching him. No one is forcing you to watch Seth. I like him for his cheerful personality and seeing cool new deck ideas!
@@mad_max21 he is actually a very good player, but playing while streaming/recording is difficult. Also, the point of this deck and video is to use the card with narset to nuke their hand.
@@raymondhorn1052 There's a difference between not liking him here on certain plays and not liking him in general. If you're not going go comment anything of value, don't comment. No one's forcing you to.
If it's included as a combo piece, people tend to focus on it as such. I don't blame someone for forgetting that there are several ways to use the card during a game.
@@123mickymouse123 Yes, but playing this on yourself when you dig(for example Narst/lands/answers) is part of the combo(Also you can get those cards later back with Ugin). This card is ment to be versitale! Not playing it as such is just hurting yourself. This deck IS junk combo but it is no excuse to play it suboptimal.
What's even more stunning is their reaction when *you* don't quit! I've had soooo many people just sit there letting their timer expire either due to just being pissed or shocked when the truth was I just needed one more land. 1 life = "I'm still good yo'." Magic Pixel my Wizard so move it! God I miss VS. (two standard draws every turn, and every card was a resource!)
Could you explain "Azorius Wheel" please? Those are my favorite two colors! Azorius is "my team" so to speak. I love Blue, I love White, I love Flying. I *really* love flying! Sadly, it's tough to make it work. Any assist for my squadron would be muchly appreciated! :D So far I'm just building really cool armies for Ilianna. Pretty sure that's *not* our mission.... "Here they come commander!" O.O "Ensign, those aren't our shipmates any more son, ready the Parahelion!" o.O "Um, Sir, we've been using that for a rob bitch." =3 "Oh. *ahem* of course. Well, ready the second one then!" :D "Yes Sir! It'll be ready in two turns!" =7 "Notify the next of kin as per usual son."
Do you think that fitting in a few Emergence Zones would be too heavy in the mana for this deck? Because nothing makes my black hole of a heart happier than the idea of Flashing in Induced Amnesia during your opponent's turn.
Now this is something I can get behind. Love Dimir. Wonder if an Ashiok or two could be fit in there, exiling their graveyard and stopping them from using tutor effects would shut down a lot of the newer Green stompy decks.
Another way you can use induced amnesia to screw over your opponent is to run bounce effect in your deck that can target your own permanents. It only returns them if it is destroyed, bounce it and those cards are exile for good.
In one match, I think maybe the second match, you had a couple amnesia in hand and talked about how it wasn't good against them because of Nissa. Did you consider using it to draw yourself a new hand? What would have been the downside of that with your deck?
Would you ever consider playing "budget" decks with the correct manabase and explaining the budget version? I feel like it's at least one match a week you lose because you draw a guildgate (read tap land) at the wrong time.
I could try it, and see what people think. The challenge is that while a lot of players have access to the right lands, some players don't and would probably frown at a "budget" deck costing $150.
@@MTGGoldfish I get it, I just feel your frustration when the better land could have or would have won you the game or at least let you stabilize. Thanks for the reply.
is the Fblthp really necessary for the deck to work, since we have so many planeswalker most of the time? if so what could be a replacement of the 2 fblthp copies?
It's worth noting that I think everyone gets a free Vraska's Contempt with Arena. Would be a great card to put in the main deck or sideboard, but would obviously raise the price of everything in paper form.
Yeah, that's part of the challenge with Budget Magic. We've sort of got three different economies now and cards that are free someplace are really expensive in others.
38:50 why leave up mana to counter something when you know they have a niv? 43:57 someone mentioned you milled cry which was an answer to phoenix after forcing the phoenix to stay back so I'll ignore that punt. But why trade ugin and ilharg for a single phoenix? Does not seem like a winning line. At least kill kiora instead.
I had an idea for a modern deck based on an interaction between a dumb modern favorite of mine chronozoa and soul deviner. Could I get your opinion on the deck. Figgy Pudding Maindeck (60) 4 Fblthp, the Lost 4 Metallic Mimic 4 Soul Diviner 2 Laboratory Maniac 4 Chronozoa 4 Clone 2 God-Eternal Kefnet 4 Spark Double 2 Dovin, Hand of Control 2 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries 2 Clockspinning 2 Narset's Reversal 4 Choked Estuary 4 Dimir Guildgate 4 Drowned Catacomb 6 Island 6 Swamp Sideboard (15) 1 God-Eternal Kefnet 4 Spell Pierce 2 Narset's Reversal 4 Spell Syphon 4 Cancel
Love this, thanks! But you know you can use Induced Amnesia many different ways..? To draw some cards for example. Though I get how one can sometimes see only the combo line when it's the whole purpose :) Goodbye 'pponent's cards!
Understanding why nexus scooped. I play nexus too (mostly to maximize gold by not completing all my 500g quests), but yeah, the deck got a lot worse after war of the spark, grixis control is not a good matchup and 3 mana teferi and narset - which is usually a 4 of or close when you see them - is just basically just an auto lose. Only answer in the main is teferi tuck which you never want to do. Maybe main deck spell pierce is a necessity again, 😔
@ 1:22 I'd love to but sadly you don't sell anything I can use on Arena and since I've sold back last seasons stuff for 1/10th of it's value and want to actually play and not be messing with a bunch of paper and shuffling forever, (An' don't even get me started on the benefits of being able to perma-dodge my "F"LGS.) I don't see myself *ever* putting any more money into paper Magic. Arena is to paper magic what Windows was to a filing cabinet. =3
Mills cry of the cararium "we dont have an awnsr for these pheonixes" when you uswing with the boar and the block you cast cry and exile the pheonixes, sure after sideboarding you cant garunte it will happen again but in game one you literly milled away your awnser
As someone who has been following e-sports more than regular sports now, this is my primary concern for competitive Magic. When is the meta essentially not just someone playing advanced Solitaire? Watch an EVO Street Fighter top 8 at some point. That's Hype. Competitive solitaire is *not* hype. Don't get me wrong I love this deck. I'm going to build it while I work on my alternate win solution because I need the cards and the stuff I've built wants to "play Magic" too much. (Even my alt/win wants to fight my opponent, but it's too hungry for cards and needs a lot more testing.) I love playing it dearly, it's a lot of fun, and gold is good, but not good *enough.* Proper respect to whoever dreamed this up (not that we'll ever know in this environment) I'ts *good* stuff. It can hold off Nexus *and* "Plansewalker" spew. =3
Darivel is a great deal closer to accurate than kishmana.
Is he actually dyslexic?
Rags_2_Bitches has to be.
@@SidneyGutteridge He might be, but he also said that he used to read a lot as a child, but never heard the words said out loud.
@@kashiffarees881 if assume that'd just make him pronounce things phonetically not totally jumble them but I don't know anything about this kind of stuff
@@SidneyGutteridge Its really rude to speculate on this. Please stop.
Why aren't you using induced amnesia for its intended purpose when it's not going to work on your opponent and your hand is not going to get you there?
I guess he doesn't see the line that it's a draw 7. As much as I'm not surprised, I'm still disappointed.
Because he's not a good player. How have anyone not know this yet?
@@mad_max21 if you don't like him stop watching him. No one is forcing you to watch Seth. I like him for his cheerful personality and seeing cool new deck ideas!
@@mad_max21 he is actually a very good player, but playing while streaming/recording is difficult. Also, the point of this deck and video is to use the card with narset to nuke their hand.
@@raymondhorn1052 There's a difference between not liking him here on certain plays and not liking him in general. If you're not going go comment anything of value, don't comment. No one's forcing you to.
14:42 when you are so happy with your land you crack up in tears
Why didn't you Induced Amnesia yourself to draw better cards in the game versus Red/Black super friends? That's literally what the card does.
Or against the abzan deck. I mean, I don't think he needed all of the induced amnesias and narsets.
If it's included as a combo piece, people tend to focus on it as such. I don't blame someone for forgetting that there are several ways to use the card during a game.
@@123mickymouse123 Yes, but playing this on yourself when you dig(for example Narst/lands/answers) is part of the combo(Also you can get those cards later back with Ugin). This card is ment to be versitale! Not playing it as such is just hurting yourself. This deck IS junk combo but it is no excuse to play it suboptimal.
You can even blow it up with Ugin later.
Alternative name for this: "Dude where's my cards?"
love it when the rude Nexus player gives up!
Thos are the best games against Nexus!
What's even more stunning is their reaction when *you* don't quit! I've had soooo many people just sit there letting their timer expire either due to just being pissed or shocked when the truth was I just needed one more land. 1 life = "I'm still good yo'." Magic Pixel my Wizard so move it! God I miss VS. (two standard draws every turn, and every card was a resource!)
@@mikejonesnoreally just play a different game. they have to stop at some time.
This deck would be interesting with Teferi’s Time Twist. Not only does it reset your walkers, it can reset Amnesia and Campaign
Hmm, could be worth testing at least.
Me: Say Ugin one more time. I dare you.
Seth: 14:05
Was expecting a mispronunciation but got slapped with 7 "ugins" in 18 seconds
Are we talking about Ugin? Ugin?
All I could hear was that scene from pulp fiction
curious, why on the 2nd game did he mill himself with Jace a couple of times 21:18 ? because Ugin?
Adding in a splash of white for the Azurious wheel seems like it would be nice with Narset
Yeah! It's just really expensive, but it is a sweet idea.
Could you explain "Azorius Wheel" please? Those are my favorite two colors! Azorius is "my team" so to speak. I love Blue, I love White, I love Flying. I *really* love flying! Sadly, it's tough to make it work. Any assist for my squadron would be muchly appreciated! :D So far I'm just building really cool armies for Ilianna. Pretty sure that's *not* our mission.... "Here they come commander!" O.O "Ensign, those aren't our shipmates any more son, ready the Parahelion!" o.O "Um, Sir, we've been using that for a rob bitch." =3 "Oh. *ahem* of course. Well, ready the second one then!" :D "Yes Sir! It'll be ready in two turns!" =7 "Notify the next of kin as per usual son."
Do you think that fitting in a few Emergence Zones would be too heavy in the mana for this deck? Because nothing makes my black hole of a heart happier than the idea of Flashing in Induced Amnesia during your opponent's turn.
Nah not at all u just need the waterygraves instead of those gates
Hmm, Emergence Zones could work, but I'd probably want it in the non-budget list where we had less tapped lands and better mana.
@@MTGGoldfish Why not go Esper for the new Teferi for the same effect?
War of the spark standard has some crazy decks! Looking forward to this one.
Enjoy!
Now this is something I can get behind. Love Dimir. Wonder if an Ashiok or two could be fit in there, exiling their graveyard and stopping them from using tutor effects would shut down a lot of the newer Green stompy decks.
I think Ashiok could be in the sideboard maybe, I'm not sure it does enough in the main deck in our current meta.
Another way you can use induced amnesia to screw over your opponent is to run bounce effect in your deck that can target your own permanents. It only returns them if it is destroyed, bounce it and those cards are exile for good.
In one match, I think maybe the second match, you had a couple amnesia in hand and talked about how it wasn't good against them because of Nissa. Did you consider using it to draw yourself a new hand? What would have been the downside of that with your deck?
Would you ever consider playing "budget" decks with the correct manabase and explaining the budget version? I feel like it's at least one match a week you lose because you draw a guildgate (read tap land) at the wrong time.
PLEASE GOD!!
I could try it, and see what people think. The challenge is that while a lot of players have access to the right lands, some players don't and would probably frown at a "budget" deck costing $150.
@@MTGGoldfish I get it, I just feel your frustration when the better land could have or would have won you the game or at least let you stabilize. Thanks for the reply.
is the Fblthp really necessary for the deck to work, since we have so many planeswalker most of the time? if so what could be a replacement of the 2 fblthp copies?
This is one of my favorite new combos ive been waiting for
ive got a t1 list manastack.com/deck/azorious-bounce
i tried this except with emergency powers....my brew was awful, although i might have to revisit it. Fun stuff!
It's worth noting that I think everyone gets a free Vraska's Contempt with Arena. Would be a great card to put in the main deck or sideboard, but would obviously raise the price of everything in paper form.
Yeah, that's part of the challenge with Budget Magic. We've sort of got three different economies now and cards that are free someplace are really expensive in others.
38:50 why leave up mana to counter something when you know they have a niv?
43:57 someone mentioned you milled cry which was an answer to phoenix after forcing the phoenix to stay back so I'll ignore that punt. But why trade ugin and ilharg for a single phoenix? Does not seem like a winning line. At least kill kiora instead.
With all these planeswalker heavy decks, why aren't Elderspells more prevalent in sideboards?
Elderspell sideboard option? Looks good against abzan
I love combos like this. I just wish there was a way to really make these combos go off.
I've been having fun in my esper control deck with 1 copy of Emergency Powers and another in the side (with 2 Aquisitions)
Sounds fun!
I usually don't like these lock your opponent out of the game decks but this one is sweet and watching the nexus deck give up was awesome
I was about to start bugging you to make this deck on steam and here it is!
Ask and you shall receive.
Love your choice of basic lands there.
With the large numbers of planeswalkers being played I'm surprised that The Elderspell isn't appearing in more sideboards
Right? And it's sooooo cheap because of it
I think it will start to see more play as people realize how many planeswalkers are running around.
I had an idea for a modern deck based on an interaction between a dumb modern favorite of mine chronozoa and soul deviner. Could I get your opinion on the deck.
Figgy Pudding
Maindeck (60)
4 Fblthp, the Lost
4 Metallic Mimic
4 Soul Diviner
2 Laboratory Maniac
4 Chronozoa
4 Clone
2 God-Eternal Kefnet
4 Spark Double
2 Dovin, Hand of Control
2 Jace, Wielder of Mysteries
2 Clockspinning
2 Narset's Reversal
4 Choked Estuary
4 Dimir Guildgate
4 Drowned Catacomb
6 Island
6 Swamp
Sideboard (15)
1 God-Eternal Kefnet
4 Spell Pierce
2 Narset's Reversal
4 Spell Syphon
4 Cancel
Love this, thanks! But you know you can use Induced Amnesia many different ways..? To draw some cards for example. Though I get how one can sometimes see only the combo line when it's the whole purpose :) Goodbye 'pponent's cards!
If PWs are such a problem for this deck, why no Elderspell in the sideboard?
There is
Ooh... that sounds like a good combo
i think ob nixilis is a faster removal and works with narset
Do you think your opponents ever look at your streams when they play against you to peek at your hand and hear your strategy?
Sometimes (although Budget Magic isn't recorded on stream, so it doesn't happen here).
Please do a Budget Aristocrats list next week
I think we're heading to Modern next week for Budget Magic, but Aristocrats is on the list.
@@MTGGoldfish I mean... Modern Arisocrats doesn't sound bad either 😅
@18:24 just dispersal the dreadhorde invasion
Edit: ok he figured it out
lets see how seth pronounces amnesia...
Jacob Mayer he actually got it! He still can’t do Kasmina though
Or davriel
"Nicole Bolas"
@@christophersienza1743 i think everyone also made that Nicole Bolas joke so, yeah.
@@christophersienza1743 Isn't that the official way WOTC has said it's pronounced?
I think I like my Narset/Wilderness Reclamation/Emergency Powers deck better.
Also nice with ob instead of narset
I think I'm soft-banned from playing Wilderness Reclamation for a while. Seems like we played it every week a little while ago.
Understanding why nexus scooped. I play nexus too (mostly to maximize gold by not completing all my 500g quests), but yeah, the deck got a lot worse after war of the spark, grixis control is not a good matchup and 3 mana teferi and narset - which is usually a 4 of or close when you see them - is just basically just an auto lose. Only answer in the main is teferi tuck which you never want to do. Maybe main deck spell pierce is a necessity again, 😔
@ 1:22 I'd love to but sadly you don't sell anything I can use on Arena and since I've sold back last seasons stuff for 1/10th of it's value and want to actually play and not be messing with a bunch of paper and shuffling forever, (An' don't even get me started on the benefits of being able to perma-dodge my "F"LGS.) I don't see myself *ever* putting any more money into paper Magic. Arena is to paper magic what Windows was to a filing cabinet. =3
Has anyone ever listened to Seth’s insanely large breaths in between what he says? I heard one and now that’s all I can hear😂
Spencer Jeffries why have you done this to us
Benjamin Ramsey, Reality is often disappointing😂
Mills cry of the cararium "we dont have an awnsr for these pheonixes" when you uswing with the boar and the block you cast cry and exile the pheonixes, sure after sideboarding you cant garunte it will happen again but in game one you literly milled away your awnser
Mate those field of ruins are killing me. So greedy when you have triple blue spells in your deck
OMG you pronounced Davriel's name correctly! I didn't think it was possible.
You all taught me!
I love this guy's attitude and energy so much eventho it was so annoying at first, pal grew on me
jace seems a bit weak in the deck, i would rather play more chemister's insights to be able to hold counterspell and draw spell at the same time
Yeah, Jace is sort of meh, might be better as something else.
MTGGoldfish What about replacing Jace w/ elderspells? PW seem really good against this deck
Wait, why didnt you do emergency powers too? Cmon man, it was right there
If you're in white and blue then there's no reason not to play 6 Teferis and then it's definitely not a budget deck
Blue-white is hard on a budget (or Esper).
@@MTGGoldfish you right. I somehow forgot the budget part of this whole thing. 😂
4:57
I see you too like free thumbs. Well played.
Non budget version??
Check the "read more" link in the description.
2:36 dari-BELL!!
Swell combo !
Darivel and flibilthip. Keep going saffron olive! The library grows!
is it just me, or are most (but not all) nexus players viven reids.?
No game sounds is triggering me
17:20
Wheres the mill
How do you pronounce fblthp correctly but mispronounce davriel
Say it with me Seth, DAVVVVV REEEEEEE ELLLLLL
I watch this just for Seth to mispronounce legendary spell names!
No hate though
I just saw the title and I am excited to see some degeneracy
So, sideboard the Amnesia, and shore up what is already good about this deck.
Macros I'm using:
As someone who has been following e-sports more than regular sports now, this is my primary concern for competitive Magic. When is the meta essentially not just someone playing advanced Solitaire? Watch an EVO Street Fighter top 8 at some point. That's Hype. Competitive solitaire is *not* hype. Don't get me wrong I love this deck. I'm going to build it while I work on my alternate win solution because I need the cards and the stuff I've built wants to "play Magic" too much. (Even my alt/win wants to fight my opponent, but it's too hungry for cards and needs a lot more testing.) I love playing it dearly, it's a lot of fun, and gold is good, but not good *enough.* Proper respect to whoever dreamed this up (not that we'll ever know in this environment) I'ts *good* stuff. It can hold off Nexus *and* "Plansewalker" spew. =3
i make the same deck but uw omg is fuking annoying
this match against kiora phoenix shows just how rigged arena is
Can you explain more?
BEGONE THO-HAND!!!
Daravel XD
Why do you talk like that?
Nobody talks like that.
Makingnewnamesisdumb Seth talks like that
@@cbnvhs08 you and I both know that's not true.
K
Mythics come easier than rares bruh.
HOW IS 90$ BUDGET? WTF IS THIS GAME?
Let me introduce you to Modern or Legacy :)
yikes, this terrible deck needs a little bit more money.
manastack.com/deck/azorious-bounce
Can't stand that voice
FIB-IL-THIP
DAV-REE-EL
Please make yourself a pronunciation guide and use it for your videos.
No lie not a friend of arena content. Feels like ur playing fake magic
Thanks for the feedback!