Budget Magic: $94 (13 tix) Simic Arkbow (Standard, Magic Arena)

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  • @moontorment
    @moontorment 5 років тому +192

    Fblthp is a fake word, of course seth can pronounce it.

    • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
      @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому +3

      moontorment he allways adds an extra ”L” and pronounces it like ”Flblthp” though. Close but no cigar! :p

    • @demonteddy8085
      @demonteddy8085 5 років тому +7

      @@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 In all fariness it is far closer than normal. After an entire standard of hearing "Arch of Vraska" hearing him get this pretty close is astounding.

    • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
      @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому

      Seth Orr Robinson haha agreed!

    • @Beowulfgang_Amadeus
      @Beowulfgang_Amadeus 5 років тому +1

      We taught him how on stream.

    • @TheodoreBrown314
      @TheodoreBrown314 5 років тому

      Seth Orr Robinson xD to that!

  • @huggybear0132
    @huggybear0132 5 років тому +82

    I love the conservative play.... Much better to discard harpooner to hand size than to risk casting it and leaving only two negates up.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +13

      I have the planeswalker fear these days :)
      Actually, the deck doesn't have that many ways to get back from behind a non-creature (other than attacking it or hitting a Dream Eater). That turn might have been too conservative, but I think it is important to try to play from ahead with this deck.

    • @huggybear0132
      @huggybear0132 5 років тому +2

      @@MTGGoldfish Makes sense, but someone had to call you out in the youtube comments ;)

  • @brutalpenguincollectables5065
    @brutalpenguincollectables5065 5 років тому +2

    Seth. You are a true inspiration. I have built about 30 of the decks you have shown. And am working on about 50 more. No joke. On paper. These decks are FUN!!!

  • @daregamo1455
    @daregamo1455 5 років тому +62

    Seth: *says made up word correctly*
    Literally everyone: YEA OF COURSE THAT'S WHAT YOU SAY RIGHT.

  • @Molly-ml1wn
    @Molly-ml1wn 5 років тому +16

    >Be Seth
    >Can't pronounce amulet
    >NAILS the pronunciation of Fblthp
    >Seth is a homunculus confirmed

    • @Addictivemeh
      @Addictivemeh 5 років тому +1

      He's adding an extra 'L' tho

    • @gregorygarrison572
      @gregorygarrison572 5 років тому

      @@Addictivemeh This. People seem to comment only on the first 10 minutes of the video. At around 20 minutes it's Flblthp instead of Fblthp.

  • @andrewf6167
    @andrewf6167 5 років тому +14

    "This gives us a moment to hover our Simic Guildgate" lol

  • @kalceus7856
    @kalceus7856 5 років тому +16

    @57:35 why not use frilled mystic to counter thought erasure? He doesn't get to see your hand, and you get a 3/2 on the battlefield instead of the graveyard. Betting on the opponent misplaying isn't worth more than a 3/2 imo, if he does go land -> cry of the carnarium the result is the same plus you withheld some information.
    Really loving this deck and Arkbow in general :) keep it up seth

  • @VeloLEV
    @VeloLEV 5 років тому +1

    My local store had everything except lands so I could play this at Standard tonight at the shop! It was super fun even when I was losing. I used Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar instead of Pelakka Wurm and its VERY good. Especially gassing up Arkbow activations with the return from graveyard ability returning two lands to hand. I ground out a Gruul Boar god deck with a 9/9 Multani. I have Breeding Pools and Hinterland Harbors on the way. I also played two matches with Llanowar Elves and two with Arboreal Grazer instead and found the 3 toughness and reach valuable but missed the 1 power.
    Thanks for all you do Seth.

  • @xrfreedom
    @xrfreedom 5 років тому +2

    I really like how you commentate!! I can listen to this in my way to work and follow along beautifully!!

    • @wookieesden3133
      @wookieesden3133 5 років тому +1

      Right? Many times I don't even have the video up, I just listen to the matches! It's amazing!

  • @Ritokure
    @Ritokure 5 років тому +12

    I think Bond of Flourishing would be great here, your deck is soft to Aggro so lifegain helps and you really could use an extra way to dig for Bow.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому +4

      That reduces the odds that Bow will hit anything. Fblthp is enough.

  • @connorharrison7160
    @connorharrison7160 5 років тому +3

    21:07 10 Mana up, two Frilled Mystics in hand, doesn't cast the Arkbow because of a single Hostage Taker that you could counter with the two Frilled Mystics you can still hold up Mana for!

  • @offthewalls1203
    @offthewalls1203 5 років тому +34

    Wow, Seth pronounces Fblthp correctly lol. How do you properly pronounce the most difficult to pronounce card? Lol. Proud of you man

    • @marquetemarquete
      @marquetemarquete 5 років тому +3

      You might have jinxed it - at some point he picked up an extra L and kept calling it "Flblthp".

    • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
      @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому

      marquete marquete 99.9% of the time he adds the extra ”L”. :p

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 5 років тому +7

    I guess you could say this deck was...
    ...Flashy.
    YYYEEEAAAHHHHHH!

  • @jacobmayer4206
    @jacobmayer4206 5 років тому +16

    seth says FLIBEL FLIP, LOST BUT NOT USELESS AKA FLIBS

  • @housemouse86
    @housemouse86 5 років тому +8

    If you cast a flash card with flash from the Arkbow, does it get superflash? Can you cast it outside of the game?

    • @beefpelican
      @beefpelican 5 років тому +12

      Yes. Nobody can stop you from bringing a frilled mystic with you to court and countering Karen's attempt to take the kids.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +7

      Yeah, it sort of does. You get uncounterable flash creatures!

  • @Crisper333
    @Crisper333 5 років тому

    This deck looks SO Dope! Can't wait to get home from fishing and put this together in Arena. Thanks again Seth for a great deck, you truly are the Master of Jank!!! 💖

  • @Scarecrow9black
    @Scarecrow9black 5 років тому +2

    Wow Seth this deck is dope. Just played against a guy running this against my WB knights and ended up winning by stealing his End Razor boar that buffed up my board and he scooped. Was super fun to see this work!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +1

      Nice!

    • @Scarecrow9black
      @Scarecrow9black 5 років тому +1

      @@MTGGoldfish I have to say this deck is quite impressive and even though I won it was only a best of one. I'm blown away with Arkbow and had my opponent used it properly he could have easily won.
      The deck I played against had a crazy starter with a turn 4 or 5 Tishana and I feel he prioritized keeping her alive rather than activating bow which slowed him down. Otherwise the only thing that kept me on board was a Knight of Malice with Squire's Devotion (budget option for new Gideon or Sorin) and he wasn't willing to swing out and take losses. Super close game and a ton of fun! Love the fblthp inclusion and it feels sooo good in this deck

  • @brutalpenguincollectables5065
    @brutalpenguincollectables5065 5 років тому +3

    And this deck needs a couple Gaea's Blessing so when you draw your big threats early you can discard them to arkbow and then shuffle them back in.

  • @jacobmayer4206
    @jacobmayer4206 5 років тому +4

    frilled mystic is my hero

  • @brandonr.2807
    @brandonr.2807 5 років тому +3

    I'm really sad we havent seen Seth play that mono blue ponza list from last week. That sounded like a deck he would enjoy.

  • @rexone9564
    @rexone9564 5 років тому

    Great episode

  • @envysart797
    @envysart797 5 років тому +1

    This deck is one of those ones where I want to see what potential it has in a non budget deck. Splash white for deputy and tolsimir maybe?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      I like the black splash for Ravenous Chupacabra and Hostage Taker, which could be good too.

  • @NinjaTwinkie
    @NinjaTwinkie 5 років тому

    Stony Strength + Incubation druid is good for a free 3 Mana. You get your threats out extra fast that way and it doubles as a combat trick

  • @dawidwidera1819
    @dawidwidera1819 5 років тому +3

    Fblthp is name like Cthulhu, you shouldn't be able to say it, but Seth does pretty impressive job on this one.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +2

      I think this might be the first pronunciation compliment I've ever received.

  • @garrett1433
    @garrett1433 5 років тому +3

    Sarkan in grixis control??? I'm confused xD

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +2

      Grixis probably has some Dragons, and a three mana planeswalker that loots every turn isn't bad in a control deck.

    • @garrett1433
      @garrett1433 5 років тому

      I'll have to try him out ^-^

  • @cavetrollsden6612
    @cavetrollsden6612 5 років тому

    That deck is sweet. Must build

  • @SegmentedOdin
    @SegmentedOdin 5 років тому

    Looks pretty solid, I've been hoping for a deck like this. Love Simic but it seems the only ones that do well are Nexus, and I hate that deck.
    I think I'll slot in a few Nullhide into the maindeck, since the only noncreature card is Arkbow, which is cheap so you can easily deactivate it for a turn. Vs. a deck you need your spells, just remove them. Also, might swap the Incubation Druids for Paradise Druids. They seem perform more consistently than the Incubations.

  • @LyricBent
    @LyricBent 5 років тому

    Seth. What do we say to the one land hand?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +1

      The right answer is probably not today, but I prefer "eh, it will probably work out."

  • @ItaliansShredsBetter
    @ItaliansShredsBetter 5 років тому

    I noticed (maybe?) that R&D doesn't design the "put the other cards on the bottom in ANY order", they say "random" instead. It was sweet being able to stack your whole deck. Of course it was very far than easy, but still possible.

  • @CainiteCaitiff
    @CainiteCaitiff 5 років тому

    Question... Do you take Deck lists from subscribers and try them out on Arena to see how good they work and give your opinion on how to make it better? If you do, I have a Mono Black Vampire LifeGain/Lifeloss Deck I call "Death & Life" I would like you to give a go

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      Sometimes! I get a lot of decklists so I don't get a chance to try every one, but if it catches my eye and seems like something I'd enjoy playing, yes.

    • @CainiteCaitiff
      @CainiteCaitiff 5 років тому

      MTGGoldfish I can totally understand that. Where might I be able to submit a deck list to ya?

  • @Gh0stfaceKiIIah
    @Gh0stfaceKiIIah 5 років тому +2

    If this wasn't budget i think a one of Crucible of Worlds would work good in the deck, iiiit's a combo.

  • @kashiffarees881
    @kashiffarees881 5 років тому

    I'd love to play a non-budget version of this with growth chamber guardians and maybe the 3 mana vivi.

  • @micheal5973
    @micheal5973 5 років тому +2

    Deadeye quarter masters to tutor up bow?
    Edit nvm its vehicles or equip

  • @MasterVash
    @MasterVash 5 років тому +20

    How do you pronounce Fblthp correctly but mispronounce everything else?

    • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
      @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому +3

      Asura United moontorment he allways adds an extra ”L” and pronounces it like ”Flblthp” though. Sooo close!

  • @genjiisopgenjiisop9629
    @genjiisopgenjiisop9629 5 років тому

    Would it be a good idea if i replace Pelakka Wurm with a hidroid krasis. Any suggestions ?

    • @johngompers7454
      @johngompers7454 5 років тому

      Vivian's Arcbow + Hydroid Krassis = a very sad, 0/0 Krassis :-(

    • @genjiisopgenjiisop9629
      @genjiisopgenjiisop9629 5 років тому +1

      Ook?? XD

    • @johngompers7454
      @johngompers7454 5 років тому

      Hydroid Krassis is a better creature to cast than Pelakka wurm.
      But if you cheat it into play, even with Vivian's Arkbow, then X will always be 0; you will gain 0 life, draw 0 cards, and put your 0/0 krassis into the graveyard.
      Poor krassis :'(

    • @genjiisopgenjiisop9629
      @genjiisopgenjiisop9629 5 років тому

      Thank you for answering, because now i wont make this mistake. Im just trying to find a deck where i can use hydroid krasis + that is a budget deck. But all decks with hydroid krasis in the meta are so expensive.

  • @blakesickness666
    @blakesickness666 5 років тому

    Is the bow string going behind her left arm? Cause I don't think that's how bows work.

  • @oldirtysean00
    @oldirtysean00 5 років тому

    That was a Godly harpooner.

  • @lordofseattle3927
    @lordofseattle3927 5 років тому +5

    I think arkbow has a home even in modern, this card is insanely good and I expect it to spike once more than just the pros start figuring it out.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому +1

      Start trading/buying

  • @notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer
    @notSoAverageGuineaPigEnjoyer 5 років тому

    When are the meta decks going on mtggoldfish meta page?

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      They already are?

  • @ecoKady
    @ecoKady 5 років тому +3

    Beardcam on the left side! Thanks!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      I think that mostly solves the problem of covering anything important! It took me a bit, but I figured it out.

  • @GeorgeAlone2277
    @GeorgeAlone2277 5 років тому +3

    32:00
    Opponent flameblade artist
    *opponent plays same card*
    Opponent fireblade artist
    Seth what?

  • @knightofthenorth926
    @knightofthenorth926 5 років тому

    Neoform would be fun in this deck. If only it were an instant.

  • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
    @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому

    This deck looks sweeet

  • @chandlerfoster8238
    @chandlerfoster8238 5 років тому

    So, I own a playset of Hydroid Krasis. Would one play Krasis in a deck of this style?

    • @wesh8121
      @wesh8121 5 років тому

      Probably not, you want to use arkbow for value, and you NEVER want to hit a krasis with arkbow(cause you couldn't pay the x and it would die)

    • @oldirtysean00
      @oldirtysean00 5 років тому +2

      Its a nonbow 😉

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      I'm on the fence. It's a powerful cards and we do have ramp to cast it, but it's a whiff with Arkbow itself.

  • @irou95
    @irou95 5 років тому

    34:00 opponent should have burned face with heartfire left creatures blocking and hope for 3 damage off the top

  • @dasnack
    @dasnack 5 років тому

    I love these videos, maybe including XXRXXM indicating rares and mythics next to the dollar/tix price for Arena people could be nice.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +2

      It's going to be on the deck tech slide in the future, could add it to the title, but it might end up being too long. I do think it would be good to incorporate it somehow though.

    • @dasnack
      @dasnack 5 років тому +1

      @@MTGGoldfish It's kinda weird having dollars and tix without rarity when the action happens in Arena, that's just it.

  • @richardbritton4675
    @richardbritton4675 5 років тому +5

    Did you just say you want to slip Vivian’s archbow in early?

  • @Tyrant372
    @Tyrant372 5 років тому

    hmmm makes me wonder if something like this could be made in modern

  • @cacs2201
    @cacs2201 5 років тому

    Just a question... How much do you guys consider a budget deck? I don't think I would consider this price tag budget at all...

    • @SyntheticReign
      @SyntheticReign 5 років тому

      Given that many standard decks are around $200, this is quite budget. Standard is expensive.

    • @cacs2201
      @cacs2201 5 років тому

      @@SyntheticReign if you are talking about meta decks, yes, I know they can be pretty expensive
      But if you are talking about rogue strategies, like this one, this is not budget, it is not the most expensive, but it is not cheap at all, you can build budget decks for far cheaper

    • @SyntheticReign
      @SyntheticReign 5 років тому

      @@cacs2201 Ah fair point. I always assume that "budget" implies pricing based on the meta, not based on "true" budget, as it were. But you're correct!

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      @@cacs2201 Your 20 dollar budget deck is way too expensive compared to my deck of 60 proxied Islands.
      See my point? It's all relative. This deck is budget compared to the meta decks that is trying to compete against.

    • @cacs2201
      @cacs2201 5 років тому

      @@SyntheticReign seeing as you can actually build a meta deck within this budget, I just can't consider this "budget" I look for the cheapest decks when looking for a deck to be called "budget"
      For example, I have a RG Dinos deck that I consider a budget deck, with the most expensive cards originally being a couple of Ghaltas, I haven't checked the price for it for some time, but I think it was around 30 dollars before the small optimizations I got from packs, and I have seen some interesting Boros Knights lists that are super fun to play, even if not that strong, at around 25 dollars
      This is the kind of decks I consider budget, things that are cheaper than the cheapest meta deck

  • @gootvansquid
    @gootvansquid 5 років тому

    first game you said opponent discards a land, but it was a Negate xD
    This looks like a fun deck. Curious how the Arkbow can do in a Golgari graveyard recursion/undergrowth deck.
    P.S. That second game was a fantastic win!

    • @Phnxkon
      @Phnxkon 5 років тому

      Tamiyo and find broker play nicely with it and creatures like chupacabra

  • @Hanmacx
    @Hanmacx 5 років тому

    Arkbow with stuff like Ravanger Wurm?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      There are some sweet removal options if we go into other colors. Hostage Taker, Ravager Wurm, Chupacabra.

    • @Hanmacx
      @Hanmacx 5 років тому

      @@MTGGoldfish
      I did with Hostage Taker and Mirror Match in Grixis
      Or a Gruul build with that Green Sun Avatar and Mirror March
      It has massive lifegain

  • @elliotthood1719
    @elliotthood1719 5 років тому +3

    Wilderness reclamation!

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      I can do it too.
      Incubation Druid!

  • @Sosroseno
    @Sosroseno 5 років тому

    Hovering Simic Guildgate is the best

  • @TogbusPrime
    @TogbusPrime 5 років тому

    Anybody else think leaving Incubation/Incongruity out of the deck or sideboard was a mistake? Seems like it's worth at least a one of in either.

  • @manuelito1233
    @manuelito1233 5 років тому

    Hoooooly fuck i just tried a super modified version of this deck, arboreal grazers instead of incubation druids, silvergill adepts instead of fblthps and riddlemaster sphinx instead of dream eaters. The deck still played amazingly fun!

  • @stalkerstomper3304
    @stalkerstomper3304 5 років тому

    Hmm. I wonder if this will be more fun than a LiquiSplinter deck? Okay... I'll stop Seth LOL. Someday we'll see it, and I'll be patient til then. Thanks

  • @Hanmacx
    @Hanmacx 5 років тому

    Arkbow with Deathtouch creatures?

  • @shanehof1022
    @shanehof1022 5 років тому

    Why no Vivien? Is it just not necessary?

    • @67silverhazey
      @67silverhazey 5 років тому

      Would put it over budget

    • @EmXena315
      @EmXena315 5 років тому

      Budget

    • @shanehof1022
      @shanehof1022 5 років тому

      @@EmXena315 I should’ve been more specific. I was talking about the new Vivien that allows you play creatures as if they had flash. Seems like it would work with the theme of the deck, giving creatures vigilance and reach is nice and helps you find action

    • @EmXena315
      @EmXena315 5 років тому

      @@shanehof1022 I forgot she got a new card in the set, I always link it to her m19 version.
      It seems alright, but I feel like more often than not, her Arkbow will just be doing everything she can do, but better. And having the ability to flash in creatures through her that already have flash seems pretty redundant. Reach is nice, but we see Harpooner is more than capable of handling flyers.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      I have a Vivien in the non-budget build, and it might be worth playing more.

  • @MrShinyObject
    @MrShinyObject 5 років тому +1

    Having harpooner and frilled mystic in the deck makes knowing when to arkbow really awkward.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      Yeah, that part can we weird. We've got more ways to deal with creatures from the battlefield (usually, if Exclusion Mage and Dream Eater are still in the deck) so mathematically I think it's usually better to let creatures resolve (unless they have a crazy ETB ability) and then try to Frilled Mystic spells/walkers.

  • @Beanmachine91
    @Beanmachine91 2 роки тому

    this might work in pioneer

  • @antiwhatever5391
    @antiwhatever5391 5 років тому

    That second game...hahahaha

  • @boogie798
    @boogie798 5 років тому

    Scooped too early against burn. You could have only taken 2 out of 3 damage. But yes mostly like dead but could have gotten an extra draw.

  • @buddatello
    @buddatello 5 років тому

    My man! You should put incubation // incongruity

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      He's trying to reduce the number of nontargets for Arkbow.

  • @brianwebster8595
    @brianwebster8595 5 років тому

    All these new planeswalkers and no elspath 😫

  • @Harv88
    @Harv88 5 років тому

    This is not budget for Arena btw, free 2 play players whom are always low on Wildcards and are limited to just 1,000-1,250 coins per day, would simply not be able to make this deck in a timely manner. Every 6 packs get you a rare Wildcard, and 1,000 coins is one pack, which means in just 30 days, we would only have 5 Rare Wildcards, if from the 30 packs opened we get lucky with WC's we might have 7-8 Rare WC's. This by no means is a budget deck for Arena and people need to realize that. Mythic rare is one every 30 packs and you have 3 Dream Eater...., it would take me 3 months to get the rare WC's for this deck, and the F2P part of Arena needs buffed hugely. After playing the Beta for a year I am tired of the grind, same ole grind. It's been about 6 months since the last account wipe......

    • @Harv88
      @Harv88 5 років тому

      To many people say that arena is "Free 2 play" because it does have a way to play for free, but it does not mean that it's budget friendly as many decks whom people create would require you to spend a lot of money on the game to have the needed cards to play amazing decks, and I simply don't have the money. Arena is not "Free 2 play", It's pay to have fun sadly....... I'm not going to spend hundreds of dollars per month to play a video game, people who do must be insane.

  • @DonovanPresents
    @DonovanPresents 5 років тому

    Hey Seth. Could you please not waive your lands while you wait for your turn? Watching your video sped up makes that movement to be rather bothersome.
    Thanks!

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      Ah, yeah, I'll try to avoid that in the future.

  • @SomeFreakingCactus
    @SomeFreakingCactus 5 років тому

    Wow. Seth didn't even use any vowels when he said Fblthp.

    • @OthEdden
      @OthEdden 5 років тому

      Vowels are the enemy.

  • @StevenFonte
    @StevenFonte 5 років тому

    Still waiting your 5c niv

  • @shanehof1022
    @shanehof1022 5 років тому

    It’s kind of unsettling for considering to buy the deck when Seth says “Is this deck actually good? Can it actually win some?” 😂

  • @nrocp0p424
    @nrocp0p424 5 років тому +1

    Love how Seth can say Fblthp no problem but normal words are a challenge.

    • @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623
      @nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 5 років тому

      nrocp0p moontorment he allways adds an extra ”L” and pronounces it like ”Flblthp” though. Seth will allways be Seth. :p

  • @totalcoward
    @totalcoward 5 років тому

    Just trying to watch a video and thunder is quite rudely interrupting

  • @wookieesden3133
    @wookieesden3133 5 років тому +1

    Game two is why I hate control. Two players just drawing cards and discarding cards for turn after turn after turn....

    • @ryandmckenzie
      @ryandmckenzie 5 років тому

      Bluffing and fighting on the stack, pretty fun if you get good.

  • @foxokon94
    @foxokon94 5 років тому +2

    I might riffle some fewthers here but Grixis is really bad. It looses to nexus, it looses to esper and it has no real tools against mono red, weenies or mono blue that esper dosn’t also have access to. I get that bolas is exiting but he is not enough to make up for the mediocre shell you have to play in order to make him playable.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      Moment of Craving and Golden Demise are fantastic against mono red and mono blue. I'm not sure what you're talking about. Grixis also has access to Niv-Mizzet or Sweltering Suns.
      Against Esper it has Niv to break the mirror wide open and you just counter Nexus and take the free win.

    • @foxokon94
      @foxokon94 5 років тому

      PalPlays i play Nexus, We have a really really good grixis matchup. As for moment and demise, they are both black and slot much easier into the better Esper control. The only reason to play Grixis in standard is that you really want to play bolas, but at least be honest with yourself that that is what you are doing.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      @@foxokon94 Why do they slot much better into Grixis? They are both black? Honestly? I couldn't care less about Bolas. I agree that he's not all that when it comes to finishers, but that just goes to show how great Grixis's card selection is when it comes to ending the game.
      What do you get by going Esper?
      Teferi. You get Teferi, Absorb, Dovin's Veto, Mortify, and Kaya's Wrath. Cool, all of your finishers lose to counters or Vraska's Contempt. You get a better removal suite with Kaya's Wrath and Mortify, along with Absorb to soften aggro without costing a slot. Neat stuff.
      Let's go over to Grixis.
      For finishers, you get Nicol Bolas, the Ravager, Dragon God Bolas, and Niv-Mizzet. Sure, most of these die to counters or Contempt, but the sheer volume of finishers that are also control pieces will run the Esper player out of resources quickly. You get Bedevil, a better Vraska's Contempt, and Angrath's Rampage. These are competitively costed removal spells that make your complaint about mono-U and mono-R look a bit unfounded.

  • @patrast5315
    @patrast5315 5 років тому

    It's a concurve bow!

  • @randym5824
    @randym5824 5 років тому

    Fblthip the control finisher

  • @dd7896
    @dd7896 5 років тому +4

    I guess it's mostly MTGA content for standard now, huh?

    • @xXNoFateXx
      @xXNoFateXx 5 років тому +3

      that.. would make sense.

    • @dd7896
      @dd7896 5 років тому +1

      @@xXNoFateXx What a shame.

    • @gao4605
      @gao4605 5 років тому +1

      the appeal of Budget decks in specifically standard is in part to Arena players.

    • @dd7896
      @dd7896 5 років тому +1

      @@gao4605 I don't know, I personally enjoy good MTG content, regardless of whatever the appeal is. Sweet (Budget) decks are fine in whatever (especially since there's no reason to apply TIX or $ to Arena, right? It's all about those Wildcards, which means it's not really budget, but closer to "build a deck as close to pauper as possible"), but I find Arena incredibly tough to watch. Especially for new sets which I am not as familiar with. On MTGO I can always pause and read a card. If the opponent casts a card that resolves quickly on Arena, I have to google it to see what it does, which I personally find incredibly bad for content creators.
      Then there's the visual part, which I just don't like, but that's more a personal preference. And the animations and sounds are also something I've never enjoyed, plus the incredibly bad timer in Arena, compared to MTGO. In general, there's just many things I dislike about Arena videos and which is why I personally don't enjoy them as much as content created on MTGO, but I guess it is the new thing and wizards does want to promote it as much as possible. It's just that I find it a lot less enjoyable, which is kind of sad, especially since I've never minded standard content. But if all of it ends up being on Arena, I guess I'll just skip it rather than not enjoying the videos.

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      It's mostly MTGA for Standard at this point, but it has been for a while (we just hadn't played much Standard before the release of WAR).

  • @joshuabraska1028
    @joshuabraska1028 5 років тому +1

    The Joy's of a Flawed Deck Randomizer Algorithm

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      "Well the odds of a passable hand are the same as the odds of a nut draw, so let's give our players 7 land hands from here on out."

  • @John-vn9js
    @John-vn9js 5 років тому +2

    Seems great for beating up on control edgelords, I approve.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      Crim does not.

  • @Soulless_MTG
    @Soulless_MTG 5 років тому +4

    *new video: :D
    *mtga: D:
    love what ya do seth, just not a fan of arena personally. cheers!

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      Props for being one of the few people who is tactful about disliking Arena.

  • @chimneyimp1486
    @chimneyimp1486 5 років тому +1

    would appreciate more mtg online than arena.
    otherwise nice deck and video

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +2

      Right now the breakdown is mostly Arena for Standard and MTGO for other formats.

  • @danielfeinberg9800
    @danielfeinberg9800 5 років тому +1

    People need to start putting viviens arkbow in tron

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      To hit what?

  • @Tsunamiis
    @Tsunamiis 5 років тому

    You always keep the sketchiest hands man, You get to muligan, its not a downside.

  • @Eholmes17
    @Eholmes17 5 років тому +9

    Comment if you don’t like mtga like if you do

  • @PalPlays
    @PalPlays 5 років тому

    Arkbow is like a nonparasitic, fixed Aetherworks Marvel.

  • @melvinfz0301
    @melvinfz0301 5 років тому +5

    Much of these 'budget' decks are cool decks with no dual lands lol

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +1

      Yeah, lands right now are super expensive, so cutting lands is one of the easier ways to keep the deck under $100.

    • @melvinfz0301
      @melvinfz0301 5 років тому

      MTGGoldfish Hi Seth. Exactly that's what I don't like about this series: basically you are nerfing decks and that's it.
      For me a "budget" deck is pretty good on its own without restrictions of any kind by runing all the cards that it needs. You know like monoblue/red/white.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      @@melvinfz0301 So you are asking him to make mono colored decks for the rest of time. A budget deck, even mono colored, often needs to make concessions to avoid going over budget.

    • @melvinfz0301
      @melvinfz0301 5 років тому

      PalPlays Hell no. What I'm trying to say is cutting cards from a deck to keep it under $100, at least for me it's not a good example of a 'budget' deck, it's just a nerf deck.
      Ok let's take Sultai Midrange, take out the rare lands, replace old Vivien with new Vivien, replace Carnage Tyrant with Pelakka Wurm, and replace Hydroid Krasis with Divination. Yes, then you will have a 'budget' deck.
      Other funny thing related to just Arena, it's in Arena is quite difficult to say what is expensive and what is cheap, because the only thing that matters is how many wildcards you have. Hydroid Krasis cost is the same of Timestream Navigator.
      Ironically, this kind of decks are built for players with large collections (like Seth) because 'budget' players will prefeer to spend their precious wildcards on metage decks.
      I just think that this particular deck or the one with the new planeswalker that make tokens qualifies more to Much abrew series. Anyway a good example of a budget deck that I have seen in this series is Wizards deck, because it had all the cards that it needs.
      Again, just my opinion.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      @@melvinfz0301 So your issue is that the landbase is the only thing that has taken a budget cut?

  • @sargin1
    @sargin1 5 років тому

    Is it just arena now?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому +1

      Arena for Standard videos (in general) and Magic Online for other formats.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      It's a good platform.

    • @sargin1
      @sargin1 5 років тому

      @@PalPlays I think mtgo is way better at conveying information. It might sound weird, but I find arena really boring to watch unless I'm playing it.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      @@sargin1 Remember that those MTGO videos are heavily edited down. A lot more work has to go into them to convey that information. Personally, I'm not championing for either platform, but I would like to see the new platform supported. It went from "this is shaping up to be a colossal failure" to "wow, they implemented the improvements that the platform needed to be successful."

  • @rogerli5329
    @rogerli5329 5 років тому

    "Simic Longbow"

  • @masterthnag105
    @masterthnag105 5 років тому

    He keeps adding a "W" when he says Fblthp. Am I the only person hearing this??? He is still saying everything wrong per standard.

  • @rhisccth4094
    @rhisccth4094 5 років тому

    Kismana. Yeah, pretty sure that's her name. Called like that because she is born a child kissed by the mana.
    Reading the card explains the card, or just don't and give them funny names to annoy your viewers.
    Seriously, I know I am being overly sarcastic and a little know-it-all. It's just sometimes this ruins the videos for me. Please, please, please, try to read every card name out loud three times, before you start recording or whatever helps you learn.
    As someone who spends so much time playing this wonderful game you might actually consider to take the time to get to know the cards. Take them out for dinner. Be nice to them. Not just use them and call them by someone elses name.

  • @roffe8751
    @roffe8751 5 років тому

    Why not just play harpooner instead of discarding it?

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      We could find something better than a Harpooner!

    • @roffe8751
      @roffe8751 5 років тому

      @@MTGGoldfish i mean to handsize. You have enough mana to still play frilled or some other counter on their turn if you would need it, even if u play out the harpooner. And it would be another threat on board. Just discarding it seemed like a waste.

  • @tygrak
    @tygrak 5 років тому

    Cry of the cranarium

  • @Starkiller3025
    @Starkiller3025 5 років тому

    I now hate when new standard sets come out. why you may ask, because I absolutely hate Arena and now it's nothing but fucking standard videos on Arena for the next God knows how long.

  • @xXNoFateXx
    @xXNoFateXx 5 років тому +1

    early AF

  • @rickyrowland1198
    @rickyrowland1198 5 років тому

    That first grixis list was garbage lol

  • @MagnesiumSulfate
    @MagnesiumSulfate 5 років тому

    I love MTG but Arena has shown just how RNG the game really is. The best player in the world could not have won those 2 games against RDW because of mana screw/flood.

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      That is part of the beauty of MtG. If games went the same way every time, no one would play. There is a reason why this is bigger than Hearthstone.

  • @ungulatemanalpha
    @ungulatemanalpha 5 років тому

    Grixis is such a bad deck, i have literally never seen it win haha

  • @TRTSMTT
    @TRTSMTT 5 років тому

    Match 1: worst grixis control player ever.

  • @randym5824
    @randym5824 5 років тому

    23 min in and no arkbow activations...

    • @MTGGoldfish
      @MTGGoldfish  5 років тому

      Oh don't worry, we get there!

  • @Jigwally
    @Jigwally 5 років тому +1

    Please drop the Magic Arena meme and play Magic Online

    • @PalPlays
      @PalPlays 5 років тому

      Magic Arena is good and is only getting better. If you don't like it then don't watch.

  • @kingqwcole
    @kingqwcole 5 років тому

    I stopped playing arena due the non random shuffle. Never keep one land. You'll never see another one. Keep three and that's all you'll draw...