Has anybody ever taking to consideration, that the trolls probably kidnapped Kristoff? I mean, he was first seen as a child with a group of ice pickers. And he clearly had equipment that was made by for an ice picker his size. His father was probably among the group of men that were working. Who’s to say that troll that found him erased his memories of his parents, or just got the older troll to do it so Kristoff would stick around. Regardless of whether or not one of the men in the ice pickers group was his father, he clearly wasn’t un-cared for as a kid. He have the equipment that I mentioned, as well as clothes fit for the weather. It seems like at least somebody would’ve noticed his absence because he’s clearly not an orphan, and if he is it’s only recent.
Norwegian myth supports it, too- the trolls were known for kidnapping children, especially blonde boys. I just assumed that was an obvious conclusion (in comparison to other theories) and was a detail Matpat didn’t see the importance of specifying since it still doesn’t change anything
Actually, the trolls weren't just randomly shoved in the movie. They were a part of the original fairy tale, "The Snow Queen". And, guess what? They were EVIL. More evidence for this awesome theory!
Also Elsa and Anna’s mom had 2 sisters, one of the sisters had ice powers, that means that the mom had some of the magic genes, which explains why Elsa has powers, the mom had the trolls kill the sister with the ice powers and then he erases everyone’s memories this is the same trolls that is in frozen because literally in it, it said in the beginning that it was about LITERALLY THE QUEEN OF ARENDELLE AND HER SISTERS, so now here’s the plot in frozen, everything’s perfect then Elsa made a small mistake, went to her ice palace and Anna then meets the trolls and they want power over arendelle after being forgotten because they wiped everyone’s memories
Honestly this makes a whole lot of sense to me now too because Disney typically tends to represent villains with lime green. Not even Hans' eyes are lime green but what color is grandpapi's necklace lime green.
Honestly if this theory actually happened- for the second movie, Hans coming back and showing the trolls as the real villains it would have been soooo much better.
but what if the ship survived the wave and decided it was too dangerous to continue there, and turned to Africa since it is RIGHT THERE and it caught on fire and so on. It sounds like a valid theory
Pretty bummed this and the repunzel sister theory didn't get confirmed after frozen II. Would have been great. I have a theory that Disney saw matpats theories and decided, "no, they found out! Now we have to change our story"
no, you can have a sibling with blonde hair even if neither of your parents do, we never see the hair color of any of their grandparents but 1, and planium blonde is apparently a hair color that happens in the people that the enchanted forest is made after.
Actually it might be confirmed that the sisters and Rapunzel know each other! On Disney+ there is a spin off mini series called Olaf Presents, Where Olaf reenacts popular Disney movies. During Olaf's reenactment of Tangled, When the episode starts he says and I quote "A story about a close personal friend of mine!" Though it's not started how he knows her, but it's safe to say that he was introduced through Elsa and Anna. Maybe Rapunzel even played with Olaf as a kid?
Well of course you didn't see it the most focus as the sisters in the movie. If you see and watch it. He let her die cause her was going be lock up and put to death basically only he would need support of people after the lime to the that country ruler by blood was cut. Which he showed in eyes of people he look suited for ruling over. He save her sister only base on if he kill or let her die by another she would not be with him cause of how close she felt tie to her. Near the end he nearly get it he couldn't do but put out any source of heat than if did like stab her or etc he be laSt known person with her in killing of that kingdom royal family
I don't see a lot of people talk about this, but I think Hans genuinely loved Anna at least for the most part. During the scene when the council, the duke and Hans were in the room, one of them said that if Anna were to die, then Hans would ascend to the throne (although you did explain how the British royals system works, Frozen takes place in Norway. I don't know how the Norwegian system for the royals work. Either that or both systems don't apply to the world of Frozen) You can see that after he said it, Hans' facial expression changes. I think that the time he was about to kiss Anna, the words hit him and eventually led to the whole villain arc stuff
@@10tailedbijuutrue Hans was technically just following Anna and also in only scene he said you and Anna I meaning Anna was only in the relationship. And also the fact that Hans wasn’t even focusing on her he focused on the place he was staying and also the fact both of them are "crazy" what I mean is Anna was crazy in her own way but also Hans if you think about it
Well, true. . . However it may be too late now to redeem Hans with that reveal in a 3rd parter movie because of the "irredeemable monster" scene in the sequel. Besides, after Anna & Elsa sent him back to the Southern Isles to be tried by his own people for his transgressions, his love for Anna has probably waned. She did punch him off a boat into frigid waters, send him away without another word & start dating someone else. We understand why, yet Hans may not since he was under the Trolls' control. From the moment Hans leaned in to kiss Anna to the moment he woke up from Elsa defrosting the kingdom - right before Anna punches him - he is not conscious of his own actions. Troll magic has hijacked him like a puppet. If he *does* have any memories of what happened during that time he has to feel very repentant / remorseful.
but what if the ship survived the wave and decided it was too dangerous to continue there, and turned to Africa since it is RIGHT THERE and it caught on fire and so on. It sounds like a valid theory
@@ashlynjames969 But what would explain the king and queen's hair color change? The king's hair is blonde in Frozen, but in Tarzan it is brown. The queen is brunette in Frozen, but in Tarzan she is a ginger.
Ashlyn James ITS LITERALLY SEEN IN FROZEN 2 THAT THEY DROWNED WHILE CALLING EACHOTHER’S NAME HOLDING ONTO EACH OTHER, While Iduna Saying “The waves are too high!” Right before this line Agnar says “We keep going, for Elsa.”
I'm not disagreeing, but what if they don't drown but it's the waters last memory of them before they got on the boat and left to africa also the ice doesn't show close on his way to wherever he could have colered his hair. He could be saying that they need to do it for elsa for the chance that she gets over her fear of herself with the birth of her baby brother who the parents are sure she'll love.
Actually, I heard somewhere that the original plot for Frozen was that Elsa was the bad guy and Hans helped Anna out. Then a little bit before they were finished writing the storyline they changed to be more of a sister bond thing.
Just here after seeing Matpat’s farewell video, back to the first ever Film Theory video I ever saw that introduced me to him and his wonderful work… Goodbye MatPat, you were such a great experience in my life And me and my brother will miss you 😢😢😢
Well her parents always thought she was a danger, cause of how powerful and dangerous her powers would. Her Father told her to wear her gloves in “Do you want to build a snowman”
Of course, Hans's early actions also make sense if the original villain was the Ice Queen - until Disney decided that her songs were too good to be villainous.
@@jrsmith1998 Yes. Originally she was the Villain of the movie. But they decided they wanted a difference and the idea for sisterly love won out. Also in the books, she is something of a villain but not purely evil.
It's sad Hans didn't come back in the second frozen. I liked the idea of Hans getting a redemption, I guess I could hope he gets it in the announced third frozen
So you're saying that in the first Half of the Movie Hans was totally legit himself falling in love with Anna and then at some point the Trolls changed his memories and manipulated him into becoming a plot twist? That does make more sense than anything else, let's go with that.
If the Grandfather troll can swipe the memory of an entire kingdom what say he can't pinpoint one single person that is UNSUSPECTING the curse and therefor follow through with their totally legit plan
That's also probably the reason kristoff never recognized anna or the family he saw when they were kids and kristoff ran off with sven to follow the ice trail
@@dandytastic7465 if hes already wiped the whole kingdom then logically he knows who has what memories, from there it would be a snap to locate the foreigners due to their unfamiliarity with him and find out who has been spending large amounts of time with Anna & that they planned to wed. He would just need to narrow the search based on memories to find Hans then mess with his head, possibly when Hans & his guards were on their way back from Elsa's castle (my timing may be off there. its been a while since i watched it).
MatPat's frozen 2 plot would have 10x better than the actual plot of the movie. In frozen 2, it doesn't even feel like a sequel, it feels more like an extra because random stuff just happens and Elsa decides, "sure, ill follow the magic voice of my dead mom to a magic forest where I find out i'm an element."
@@lacunaereversed WAIT WHAT!? does that mean the villain Hans could be one of his brothers as we know he was one of uhh 10-13 maybe 14 brothers (I forget) and for all we know he could have a twin with just a different eye color that's actually really interesting
Hanses plan makes a lot more sense in the book. You see it from his point view before he starts talking to her- you see his thoughts as he’s trying to manipulate her
Although, if they wanted to really stretch that theory, they could easily say that the water spirit helped the queen (since she's always been friends with them and it was her act of saving her enemy that gave elsa her ice powers) and carried them off to a nearby island .3. Since we don't really see them dying, we just see them about to be engulfed by water
I love how everyone forgets so quickly that the trolls essentially kidnap Kristoff and Sven at the start of the movie. How is it possible to think that they're anything except evil?
@@PaperRabbitsArtsto be 100% fair, no family seemed to ever look for Kristoff. which is bad no matter what, but especially so if you consider that baby Kristoff could've frozen to actual death out there.
Team Theorist, you folks are AWESOME! I'm watching this theory again in 2022, and the quality still holds up! This is why I'm proud to be part of this community ❤️
DestinyDragonGod it is cool. my only problem is.. well, the movie was hyped for one song. and imo that ruined it. personally, the intro song -that ratpat spat on, his ear is going in my knee btw.- was better than the "let it go" one. infact, i can picture an entirly diffrent movie being based on that intro song. and how dafuq did i get on this topic?
no. if something is inspired or based from another work and it isn't supposed to connect, then it has to stand on its own two feet, by saying you need to read or watch or whatever something to understand the the other you are essentially saying that the (in this case ) movie failed in what is set out to do and failed at being a recreation/re-imaging of the original.
How can I not believe this??? It makes more sense than the actual plot, which always confused me because Hans seemed genuinely concerned about Anna and Elsa like you mentioned
Yeah the person above is very right. Though he acts like a good king, the entire song of love is an open door sounds totally different once you have watched the movies.
@@thyfabulousfrank yeah. When he was stating that he was quote “searching my whole life to find my own place” he gestures to Arendale and not Anna which is surprising because this is supposed to be a love song.
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may i say, i noticed that someone said to hans, 'if anna does not make it, you are the only chance for arandelle...' then, a surprised look on his face, this may mean that he genuinely did love anna, until he heard that he could be king if she died.
Exactly i was pretty sure it was a him being human, in a sense that we humans are selfish and driven by greed most of the time. So i completely understand how Hans reacted cause honestly i'd hesitate.
That *kinda* works. Only problem with it is that he acted a bit too evil for it to be believable. There still needed to be a bit of foreshadowing showing that he's the kind of guy who would do that, otherwise it still feels like it came out of nowhere.
@@seasnaill2589 theres also no reason to not save anna. she literally had no problem handing control of the kingdom to him temporarily and since shes incompetent Hans could have still be the one practically ruling the counry as a king alongside the queen. Hans also has more legitimacy on the throne compared to him usurping it
Disney: O freeze, fat pats on to us, better make a sequel before he makes another theory!!!!! Mat Pat: Ok lets make sure Disney makes a sequel so I can get going on another theory
I agree the trolls are the real villains i read a disney theory saying that kristoff wasnt orphan.. Trolls in mythology n stuff r known 4 kidnapping kids.. Thats what they did n must hav altered kristoff's memory about his actual family n also other ppls memories bout kristoff..
Funny Videos In the original story, "The Snow Queen" by H. C. Andersen, the villain is a character reffered to as the Devil and, in some editions, as the Troll. That's what makes me believe this theory isn't completly far fetched. The OG Troll creates a Magic Mirror that can reflect all flaws of character one has. After he is done mocking humanity with it, he climbs the stairway to Heaven in order to mock God Himself. However, once he reaches the first Angel, the Mirror starts trembling and breaks into millions upon millions of pieces. These all fall to Earth, piercing through the heart and eyes of regular people and "freezing them", that is, turning them into egotistical, cruel, manipulative assholes that can see but ugliness in the world.
@@irispark5561 like Disney will make that many sequels. we might get Frozen 3, but then it will be Frozen live action remake. with CGI Sven and autotuned Let It Go.
Frozen 2 has Hans doing redemption Frozen 2: let’s have Elsa follow a magic voice that leads her to a magic forest where she meets the elements from Captain Planet.
I feel like Disney watches these theories and then goes “what’s the best way to completely disprove this?” Rip “Rapunzel is Elsa’s sister” and “Trolls are the real villains”. Oh, and don’t forget “Agnar and Eduna give birth to Tarzan” because spoiler alert *water saw the whole thing and it begs to differ.*
Have you heard the theory that the trolls actually lured in and kidnapped Kristoff at the beginning of the movie? The theory suggests Kristoff was actually helping his father, who was working as an iceman, in that opening scene and that the trolls lured him away and kidnapped him. They probably would have wiped or altered his memory to keep him from remembering the event and left a changeling child in his place for his parents. The lure of changelings suggest that trolls are especially fond of blond-haired, blue-eyed children. In Scandinavian folklore, trolls are the main culprit of kidnapping human children and leaving behind changelings, which would fit the geographical setting of Frozen. I think this theory actually provides even more proof for your own theory that the trolls are not the innocent, friendly, helpful creatures that we perceive them to be.
pretty sure most problems in the movie could have been avoided how their parents taken the time to get her help with her powers and have her learn to control them...like they see her emotions effect them but put no bother in to helping her channel that. #dadoftheyear
You mean that horror flick disguised as a children's animated movie? Yeah. Hated it. Watched it with my friends while cowering under the bed with a submachine gun.
I mean theoretically they could've still been alive, they still never truly show that the parents are dead, just that the water swept them up. So in theory, considering Eduna [sp?] was Northaldra [sp?] - the water spirit could've saved them. Granted that doesn't mean the Tarzan thing would be any more legit - but ... might be fun if they ever decided to make a TV show to explore what Elsa can do now [or really tell us about that poor guard that was trapped for so long and how he and his lady get on XD]
@@Crow_Smith oh having a mini series would be awesome!!! just people seem to think the director or one of the writers saying he likes a theory is enough to make it canon, when it never could, given they freaking take place some 40 years apart!!
Then again ... ( Guilty here ) I've watched Frozen a good few times, and have noticed quite alot of strangeness concerning Hans, he shows honest and earnest love for Anna, and yet time and time again he goes to show his affection, but juuust before he does, theres this split moment where he becomes somewhat confused looking, before doing a complete 180 with his personality. Same with him at the end, about to kill Elsa - before that, completely different personality, honest and earnest, suddenly a look of confusion and now hes grinning ear to ear about to strike down the woman he SAVED, shown concern for and tried so desperately to convince Elsa of her humanity, like ... thats not just coincidence. Disney is known for throwing in these little hints, suggestions for Stories they intend to follow up in a second movie, if you check the movies they INTENDED a second movie to roll out for them, they all contain these little hints an suggestions, small and tiny, but they are there, not something you'd innately sense or see the first time you roll the movie, and they all came to be in these various stories second movie.
leo couture or the movie needed a villian and a love triangle between hans Anna and cristof was a problem so they made hans evil wether id does have sense or not,i blame you let it go!!! Because the song we didn't have our evil ice qween!!!!
@@Ella_Moore_2025 yeah, out of the 2 that is the most likely, as when you have a multiple personality disorder your other personality goes by a different name, as it is a different person. also an evil twin is funnier!
I'm pretty sure there's a Tumblr post about this... Edit: THERE *IS* "What if when they trolls said "Get the fiancee out of the way" they meant it? What if they cast a spell on Hans that replaced his feelings for her with greed? What if Hans is stuck inside his own mind, screaming and crying, because the love of his life is slipping through his fingers, by his own hand? What if the open door never closed?" "wait WHAT" Edit: Okay so people are actually noticing this comment for some reason, and I feel the need to clarify, this is a post from Tumblr!
Have you seen the SuperCarlinBrothers theory that Hans represents the Mirror from the original tale? It's really interesting. When he interacts with Anna, he's lovably awkward and charming. When he interacts with the Duke of Westleton, he's a cunning politician. When he interacts with the soldiers, he's an honorable knight. When he interacts with Elsa, he's sympathetic. But when he shows his true colors, he's cold and empty.
if i remember its also because in the original story a piece of glass from a giant mirror fell into his eye making him see all the evil in the world and mimick other people
AND the Trolls say the heart is less easily persuaded, MEANING - Hans actually was in love with Anna and was her true love, so the Trolls couldn't let him kiss her because that would ruin their plan for Kristoff!! You're right, his plan would've needed him to kiss Anna either way, but the Trolls couldn't let that happen, so they manipulate his mind to not just be evil, but to not kiss Anna no matter what
4:38, I think we got a glimps into Elsa's darker side in that scene and something is telling be we are underestimating how dark she can be. I am not trying to hate on any Elsa fans out there. This is just a theory.
Frozen 2: *releases* Hans: *excitedly watching till the end to realise he wasn't involved in a good way* Hans: STILL WAITING FOR THAT REDEMPTION ARC YALL-
FNaF Patrol Even we must admit. It just wasn’t the sequel we wanted. The climax was a boring dam destroying thing and the villain was a guy who was already dead!
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MatPat, can you do a theory about Christophe? Like why his parents were never there, and the people that were around him and didn't pay attention to him.
Didn't they kidnap him like, straight after that whole memory wipe thing happened? They probably had every intention of just grabbing the first human child they saw so they could have a human family member to play matchmaker with. This theory, paired with the previous one, fill in like 90% of the many plot holes in Frozen and it's really cool
I'm a big SCB fan. I've seen 99.99% of their episodes. But I have to give this one to MatPat. Heck, even SCB eventually did this theory, but after MatPat
Actually in the movie hanz lies telling everyone Anna was dead. He lied saying before she died they exchanged wedding vows meaning he would be the king or prince. BUT BRO COULD HAVE A GIRL AND BE KING/PRINCE.
Ok but about the prison cell Elsa was locked into. It definitely seems if it were built for her because the chains covered her both hands entirely and that’s the only way to stop her from using her powers, but Hans wouldn’t have enough resources or time just to build a cell for Elsa NOR DID HE KNOW THAT COVERING HER HANDS WOULD STOP HER FROM USING HER POWERS. But who did? Her parents. Her parents built a cell for Elsa just in case she went out of control.
Considering all the extra material they seem to be building into with other media like once upon a time it wouldn’t be too surprising that her mother built it out of a natural fear born from those traumatic memories of what happened with her sisters.
Wanna turn this movie even darker? The Trolls are Goblins. According to the mythology of the area (more specifically from the original people of Norway, Sweden and Finland aka Saami people), the dead people go to a place called "Underground" or "Beneath land" and take a goblin/troll like form (I called them goblins because that's the direct translation to the word, though its not exactly what they would be. Nordic languages have a lot more words for these kinds of creatures than English does). As their appearance is debatable and same creature can shift its appearance, its unknown what they really look like. These creatures have the ability to cause misfortune to the living and can even step above ground. They also are very protective over those who are bound to them by blood (ie their living relatives) and are hostile towards those who can be seen as "enemy" like rivals and so forth. According to the folklore, these creatures can cause physical damage and possess magical abilities, gifted to them in death of their original form as a human. What if these "Trolls" we see are actually Kristoff's real family and ancestors, who are raising him without any recollection of their past lives, yet feeling connection to him? This would explain their behaviour towards him and Anna, who would be viewed as the perfect girl for him along with them wanting to get rid of Hans as he is Kristoff's "enemy", his rival when trying to get Anna's interest. So there you have it folks, Frozen's "trolls" are actually Kristoff's long deceased ancestors who have taken the form similar to a goblin, bound to him by their blood relation, watching over him and trying to fight for him, mistaking Hans to be an enemy just because he brought a girl home to be healed. Another thing regarding the folklore of the northern Europe is the fact that here, Trolls are considered to be inheredly evil, large and consume humans. And the Trolls of this mythological bit would be called Giants or Jotunheims (different from the Viking mythology as they aren't Ice Giants). Jotunheims are large as a mountain and can stay unmoved for centuries, which is why often they are drawn to have growing trees go across their bodies, grass and other plants. In Finland, there is even a song that states that two of these creatures, called Malla and Saana were lovers about to get married, who were deep frozen by a Swedish Troll called Pältsa next to the place where a lake was grown from the tears of the bride, Malla. Man, isn't mythology just great?
I'm sorry but the Saami aren't the "original people of Scandinavia" I mean sure they were pushed up north a bit throughout history but they NEVER were the majority of the Norwegian fjord region, where the film takes place. It's still a plausible theory though.
“No other Disney villain has got that sort of treatment” Lady Tremame: “I was in Cinderella 3 Lost in time am I a joke to you”. Edit: Thank you so much for the likes. I’ve never even gotten 50.
Actually in Orlando Disney world Hollywood studios there is a frozen stage play and while you wait in line little videos by the characters come on screens and one of them is a warning about trolls and how their “tricky and dangerous little things” so I’m on your side
Reaper Is coming wow i've been going to universal studios Orlando, yet im into these theories maybe i should go to disney, just one time and research these and probably find out what the trolls are really are!
I also thought its kinda wierd how the Trolls tell them to hide the Magic, not learning to control it but just straight up hide it, not fixing anything- but triggering everything
Has anybody ever taking to consideration, that the trolls probably kidnapped Kristoff? I mean, he was first seen as a child with a group of ice pickers. And he clearly had equipment that was made by for an ice picker his size. His father was probably among the group of men that were working. Who’s to say that troll that found him erased his memories of his parents, or just got the older troll to do it so Kristoff would stick around. Regardless of whether or not one of the men in the ice pickers group was his father, he clearly wasn’t un-cared for as a kid. He have the equipment that I mentioned, as well as clothes fit for the weather. It seems like at least somebody would’ve noticed his absence because he’s clearly not an orphan, and if he is it’s only recent.
The old troll (the king troll) is named Grandpa Pabbie. I think ur theory makes a lot of sense! 😮
and the troll that adopts Sven and Kristoff literally says "you're adorable.I think im gonna KEEP YOU" :O
Norwegian myth supports it, too- the trolls were known for kidnapping children, especially blonde boys. I just assumed that was an obvious conclusion (in comparison to other theories) and was a detail Matpat didn’t see the importance of specifying since it still doesn’t change anything
SillyStringSoup holy shet
SillyStringSoup thank you that’s been on my mind for a Long time
Actually, the trolls weren't just randomly shoved in the movie. They were a part of the original fairy tale, "The Snow Queen". And, guess what? They were EVIL. More evidence for this awesome theory!
Summer Pyott link to story pls!
@@keysmash_roa oh yes, i'm sorry, I didn't fully remember the name, I just knew it was something like that
DOES THAT MEAN THE TROLLS ARE THE REAL VILLAIN
Oh.................
Also Elsa and Anna’s mom had 2 sisters, one of the sisters had ice powers, that means that the mom had some of the magic genes, which explains why Elsa has powers, the mom had the trolls kill the sister with the ice powers and then he erases everyone’s memories this is the same trolls that is in frozen because literally in it, it said in the beginning that it was about LITERALLY THE QUEEN OF ARENDELLE AND HER SISTERS, so now here’s the plot in frozen, everything’s perfect then Elsa made a small mistake, went to her ice palace and Anna then meets the trolls and they want power over arendelle after being forgotten because they wiped everyone’s memories
I love how everyone even Disney is like “lol tarzan was their brother” and then the boat scene in frozen 2 is like the writers saying “lol nvm”
lol
The tarzan thing was just a theory/rumor
They grab a broken Peace and float to the Island
@@oliviaa209 didn't the writer or auther said that elsa and anna have a brother that was raised by a gorilla so its now a theory/rumor right
They were like "SIKES SUCKAZ"
Honestly this makes a whole lot of sense to me now too because Disney typically tends to represent villains with lime green. Not even Hans' eyes are lime green but what color is grandpapi's necklace lime green.
OMG YOU R SO SMART :O
frozen 2 writers: hans, we're giving you a redemption.
frozen 2 writers: we have trolled you all.
I guess the trolls "trolled" the writers whilst they were making the sequel.
Still pissed bout that.
“Trolled”
No pun attended
FROZEN 3 CONFIRMED?!
Now wait for frozen 3 when the trolls reveal there plan to troll arendal
Honestly if this theory actually happened- for the second movie, Hans coming back and showing the trolls as the real villains it would have been soooo much better.
yeah it would maybe in Frozen 3 or something.....
Agreed
Yeah ikr
So true. But instead we got a joke of a movie part 2 😒
@@d0rkyzz I know right @-@
Frozen Theories: Exists.
Frozen II: I'm 'bout to end this man's whole career
Well yeah.... that was a disappointment. I liked the movie and it's humor but it was only "ok".
*Exist
Lete gi ir frozen😠
but what if the ship survived the wave and decided it was too dangerous to continue there, and turned to Africa since it is RIGHT THERE and it caught on fire and so on. It sounds like a valid theory
No, the trolls got their wish
Pretty bummed this and the repunzel sister theory didn't get confirmed after frozen II. Would have been great. I have a theory that Disney saw matpats theories and decided, "no, they found out! Now we have to change our story"
no, you can have a sibling with blonde hair even if neither of your parents do, we never see the hair color of any of their grandparents but 1, and planium blonde is apparently a hair color that happens in the people that the enchanted forest is made after.
Actually it might be confirmed that the sisters and Rapunzel know each other! On Disney+ there is a spin off mini series called Olaf Presents, Where Olaf reenacts popular Disney movies. During Olaf's reenactment of Tangled, When the episode starts he says and I quote "A story about a close personal friend of mine!" Though it's not started how he knows her, but it's safe to say that he was introduced through Elsa and Anna. Maybe Rapunzel even played with Olaf as a kid?
@@washa9927I mean Rapunzel got invited to the coronation so they definitely know each other
We do actually see them walking into the gates at the beginning of the
Matpat: Hans' behaviour at the end came out of nowhere.
Deadpool: That's just lazy writing.
Well of course you didn't see it the most focus as the sisters in the movie. If you see and watch it. He let her die cause her was going be lock up and put to death basically only he would need support of people after the lime to the that country ruler by blood was cut. Which he showed in eyes of people he look suited for ruling over. He save her sister only base on if he kill or let her die by another she would not be with him cause of how close she felt tie to her. Near the end he nearly get it he couldn't do but put out any source of heat than if did like stab her or etc he be laSt known person with her in killing of that kingdom royal family
Me:so r u deadpool
Deadpool:cuts wolflover thoat*
@@dannnn98 It isn't about not seeing it.
As this video illustrates, you see evidence completely OPPOSITE of it.
That is bad writing
After Frozen 2 really Deadpool is Right
This idea for a plot for Frozen 2 is so much more interesting than what we actually got.
yeah... trolls EVIL😈😈
I havent seen it
Whats the plot
True though
Yepp
FOR REAL! This theoru should have been the plot of Frozen 2.
"No it's not olaf, that would be stupid"
Matpat 3 years later
"BEWARE HIS LIES"
frozen 2 is a thing now
THATS WHAT I JUST SAID
get iced
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I don't see a lot of people talk about this, but I think Hans genuinely loved Anna at least for the most part. During the scene when the council, the duke and Hans were in the room, one of them said that if Anna were to die, then Hans would ascend to the throne (although you did explain how the British royals system works, Frozen takes place in Norway. I don't know how the Norwegian system for the royals work. Either that or both systems don't apply to the world of Frozen) You can see that after he said it, Hans' facial expression changes. I think that the time he was about to kiss Anna, the words hit him and eventually led to the whole villain arc stuff
you can see in that song he shares with Anna, just too much is off to really think true love nonsense.
@@10tailedbijuutrue Hans was technically just following Anna and also in only scene he said you and Anna I meaning Anna was only in the relationship. And also the fact that Hans wasn’t even focusing on her he focused on the place he was staying and also the fact both of them are "crazy" what I mean is Anna was crazy in her own way but also Hans if you think about it
12:00: "we wanna redeem you"
Frozen 2: "UNREDEEMABLE MONSTER"
@Sophia - Steven Universe when they played charades
Such disappointment in Frozen 2 for not making the Trolls the villains of its story.
@@amyliaclenny1866 that could be interesting 🤔 maybe if they do the 3rd part there will be a villain.. who knows
@@amyliaclenny1866 Well the sequel didn't exactly de-confirm the theory.
Well, true. . . However it may be too late now to redeem Hans with that reveal in a 3rd parter movie because of the "irredeemable monster" scene in the sequel. Besides, after Anna & Elsa sent him back to the Southern Isles to be tried by his own people for his transgressions, his love for Anna has probably waned. She did punch him off a boat into frigid waters, send him away without another word & start dating someone else. We understand why, yet Hans may not since he was under the Trolls' control.
From the moment Hans leaned in to kiss Anna to the moment he woke up from Elsa defrosting the kingdom - right before Anna punches him - he is not conscious of his own actions. Troll magic has hijacked him like a puppet. If he *does* have any memories of what happened during that time he has to feel very repentant / remorseful.
“B is the more fun choice... and to me that means it’s the right choice”
Nico Nico nii.hehehehehehe...
If only that worked on my shool tests
@@richellebolambot54 MaKi mAki mA
That explains my grades
This is true: See CS:GO and my grades
"Agnar and Iduna survive and become Tarzan's parents!"
Frozen 2: *Hold my magical spirit abilities*
@HaplessBike5261 Hold my hunters' shotgun
but what if the ship survived the wave and decided it was too dangerous to continue there, and turned to Africa since it is RIGHT THERE and it caught on fire and so on. It sounds like a valid theory
@@ashlynjames969 But what would explain the king and queen's hair color change? The king's hair is blonde in Frozen, but in Tarzan it is brown. The queen is brunette in Frozen, but in Tarzan she is a ginger.
Ashlyn James ITS LITERALLY SEEN IN FROZEN 2 THAT THEY DROWNED WHILE CALLING EACHOTHER’S NAME HOLDING ONTO EACH OTHER, While Iduna Saying “The waves are too high!” Right before this line Agnar says “We keep going, for Elsa.”
I'm not disagreeing, but what if they don't drown but it's the waters last memory of them before they got on the boat and left to africa also the ice doesn't show close on his way to wherever he could have colered his hair. He could be saying that they need to do it for elsa for the chance that she gets over her fear of herself with the birth of her baby brother who the parents are sure she'll love.
Actually, I heard somewhere that the original plot for Frozen was that Elsa was the bad guy and Hans helped Anna out. Then a little bit before they were finished writing the storyline they changed to be more of a sister bond thing.
Write the storyline change to be more of a sister Bond thing.
I know
It was based by the snow queen by HCA
Elsas the villain in the OG
Well, now that Frozen 2 is out it’s disappointing to see he never got his redemption arc :/
Parfaitt we literally got the exact opposite the whole movie
Well looks like Hans took the L if you know what I mean xD
Ironically the trolls got their wish!
SPOILER ALERTS. RUDE RUDE RUDE. HOW DARE YOU
And now the movie about their mom makes no sense
Matpat: talking about who would rule England if the Queen died
Basically everyone online: Bold of you to assume she *can* die
This will not age well
@@tosatingpoptart8015 did something happen?
but its truth, she will *not* die. *Long live the queen*
@@wheresthemilkdad I like the band QUEEN so much better
Tommyinit is quaking
So, you're basically saying... they got trolled?
Hearted by Film Theorists. Well done!
Internet, take notes!
Cyber Jackalope XD
The trolls also say "people don't really change" that's an optimistic lyric if I've ever heard one.
That's a ROCKING pun there,
Just here after seeing Matpat’s farewell video, back to the first ever Film Theory video I ever saw that introduced me to him and his wonderful work…
Goodbye MatPat, you were such a great experience in my life
And me and my brother will miss you 😢😢😢
The worst bit is you notice the cell looks almost made for her meaning HER PARENTS MADE A PRISON CELL FOR THEIR OWN CHILD
Well her parents always thought she was a danger, cause of how powerful and dangerous her powers would. Her Father told her to wear her gloves in “Do you want to build a snowman”
True
It was Plan B lpl
For the meaning of her parents made a prison cell for their daughter their own child
Would. Her father tell her to wear her gloves and do You want to build a snowman
Of course, Hans's early actions also make sense if the original villain was the Ice Queen - until Disney decided that her songs were too good to be villainous.
The ice queen was supposed to be a villain?
@@jrsmith1998 Yeah I remember seeing it somewhere
@@jrsmith1998 Yes. Originally she was the Villain of the movie. But they decided they wanted a difference and the idea for sisterly love won out.
Also in the books, she is something of a villain but not purely evil.
this man spitting facts
In Andersen’s story, I saw 2 different story of the snow queen. I wonder which one did Disney take inspiration from?
Legit I never saw Hans coming cause none of his actions matched it at all
Exactly
Actually is pretty predictable considering that that if he marries the princess he'll become rich
It's sad Hans didn't come back in the second frozen. I liked the idea of Hans getting a redemption, I guess I could hope he gets it in the announced third frozen
So you're saying that in the first Half of the Movie Hans was totally legit himself falling in love with Anna and then at some point the Trolls changed his memories and manipulated him into becoming a plot twist? That does make more sense than anything else, let's go with that.
It was probably right after the trolls met Anna and she mentioned a fiancee.
@@Horopter we don't see that, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. We'll know more when the second come out.
If the Grandfather troll can swipe the memory of an entire kingdom what say he can't pinpoint one single person that is UNSUSPECTING the curse and therefor follow through with their totally legit plan
That's also probably the reason kristoff never recognized anna or the family he saw when they were kids and kristoff ran off with sven to follow the ice trail
@@dandytastic7465 if hes already wiped the whole kingdom then logically he knows who has what memories, from there it would be a snap to locate the foreigners due to their unfamiliarity with him and find out who has been spending large amounts of time with Anna & that they planned to wed. He would just need to narrow the search based on memories to find Hans then mess with his head, possibly when Hans & his guards were on their way back from Elsa's castle (my timing may be off there. its been a while since i watched it).
Hans: “Elsa, stop! This is getting too dark for a kids movie!”
Also Hans: I'm going to cause Anna to freeze to death while I lock her in a room and leave!
@@richardmahn7589 lol ikr
@@richardmahn7589 Hans is a dumb villain, no?
@Audrey Ghinea i do
"Hans will be redeemed in Frozen 2"
Frozen 2: *"Laughs in soulless cash grab"*
@Mariah Barrett Probably not, and even so, it probably will be even more soulless
Frozen 2: Hans who?
@Mariah Barrett Was better that way than "your right"
Hah
I am from the future in 2021 it did not happen
MatPat's frozen 2 plot would have 10x better than the actual plot of the movie. In frozen 2, it doesn't even feel like a sequel, it feels more like an extra because random stuff just happens and Elsa decides, "sure, ill follow the magic voice of my dead mom to a magic forest where I find out i'm an element."
true true
That photoshoped picture of Hans really creeps me out.
Ikr I kept covering the screen
COMMENT TROLLER lol XD ikr
Ikr?! That face is the stuff of nightmares... 😰
COMMENT TROLLER HOLY SHIT. I saw it while reading your comment😂😂
Yeah i kept shivering when i saw that creepy ass face.
One thing I noticed was that, if you look really closely at Hans' eyes before and after he starts being villainous, they're different colors.
Wait what-
Hold up
Haha knew it
@@lacunaereversed WAIT WHAT!? does that mean the villain Hans could be one of his brothers as we know he was one of uhh 10-13 maybe 14 brothers (I forget) and for all we know he could have a twin with just a different eye color that's actually really interesting
I.AM.SHOOK.
Mattpat: "the troLLS ARE THE VILLAIN."
Elsa and Anna's grandfather: *-"wait hold my sword.."*
I see you didn’t watch the other frozen theory
Red knight gaming he is tho
True
@@redish457 Well that didn't age well
I wach`t Frozen 2!!!!!!!! You are so rong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hanses plan makes a lot more sense in the book. You see it from his point view before he starts talking to her- you see his thoughts as he’s trying to manipulate her
Creators of frozen: “we approved that the parents was alive”
*and then one scene show that they literary died on frozen 2*
Although, if they wanted to really stretch that theory, they could easily say that the water spirit helped the queen (since she's always been friends with them and it was her act of saving her enemy that gave elsa her ice powers) and carried them off to a nearby island .3. Since we don't really see them dying, we just see them about to be engulfed by water
Charlotte Im *No itS NUsT mY ThEORy >:CCCC*
Parents was alive in frozen 1 and in
frozen 2 died
Not by a leopard by a wave
y they do tis?
I love how everyone forgets so quickly that the trolls essentially kidnap Kristoff and Sven at the start of the movie. How is it possible to think that they're anything except evil?
not everything we don't like is evil,
@@10tailedbijuu My dude, kidnapping is *bad*
@@10tailedbijuu 📸🤨
@@PaperRabbitsArtsto be 100% fair, no family seemed to ever look for Kristoff. which is bad no matter what, but especially so if you consider that baby Kristoff could've frozen to actual death out there.
Magic that could erase memory, that is why no one is looking for him.
The writers of Frozen: “were gonna bring back Hans if we make Frozen 2”
Me, in 2020: hahaha sure...
I was just thinking that aha I wish they had tho bc I liked Hans
And hans never became the villan again
I kinda wish Disney had used this plot. That would have been awesome.
but u know he was just a theary
I dont see a Hans anywhere, do you?
Team Theorist, you folks are AWESOME! I'm watching this theory again in 2022, and the quality still holds up! This is why I'm proud to be part of this community ❤️
plot twist. they just made a bunch of plotholes, and waited for film theory to pick up the trash so they can have the plot for frozen two.
Envy you could be right, but to be fair this would be a pretty involved cool plotline. Just missing Anna's fire power ;)
DestinyDragonGod
it is cool. my only problem is.. well, the movie was hyped for one song. and imo that ruined it.
personally, the intro song -that ratpat spat on, his ear is going in my knee btw.- was better than the "let it go" one.
infact, i can picture an entirly diffrent movie being based on that intro song.
and how dafuq did i get on this topic?
no. if something is inspired or based from another work and it isn't supposed to connect, then it has to stand on its own two feet, by saying you need to read or watch or whatever something to understand the the other you are essentially saying that the (in this case ) movie failed in what is set out to do and failed at being a recreation/re-imaging of the original.
Envy I hope you do think my comment is directed to you.
Envy so true
How can I not believe this???
It makes more sense than the actual plot, which always confused me because Hans seemed genuinely concerned about Anna and Elsa like you mentioned
True ... Anna and Hans looked really cute....
Concerned about Anna and Elsa's like you mentioned
@@senareejayasinghe874 Anna was too easy to muniplate.
Yeah the person above is very right. Though he acts like a good king, the entire song of love is an open door sounds totally different once you have watched the movies.
@@thyfabulousfrank yeah. When he was stating that he was quote “searching my whole life to find my own place” he gestures to Arendale and not Anna which is surprising because this is supposed to be a love song.
I've actually been suspicious of the trolls.
In mythology, they were shown to have an affinity for children with "golden hair", etc, etc.
Affinity?
af·fin·i·ty
/əˈfinədē/
noun
a spontaneous or natural liking or sympathy for someone or something.
"he has an affinity for the music of Berlioz"
synonyms: empathy, rapport, sympathy, accord, harmony, like-mindedness; More
Like Cristoff, wow
Is Kristoff "adopted" or "kidnapped" by them?
Where tf did you get that profile picture?
MatPat: *talks about the Queen, monarchy and her possible successors*
Me: *seeing the current world news* Well about that...
may i say, i noticed that someone said to hans, 'if anna does not make it, you are the only chance for arandelle...' then, a surprised look on his face, this may mean that he genuinely did love anna, until he heard that he could be king if she died.
oooh, maybe greed took over??
Exactly i was pretty sure it was a him being human, in a sense that we humans are selfish and driven by greed most of the time. So i completely understand how Hans reacted cause honestly i'd hesitate.
That *kinda* works. Only problem with it is that he acted a bit too evil for it to be believable. There still needed to be a bit of foreshadowing showing that he's the kind of guy who would do that, otherwise it still feels like it came out of nowhere.
@@seasnaill2589 theres also no reason to not save anna. she literally had no problem handing control of the kingdom to him temporarily and since shes incompetent Hans could have still be the one practically ruling the counry as a king alongside the queen. Hans also has more legitimacy on the throne compared to him usurping it
Surprise that means that he generally in love with on a heat he heard that he could be king if she died.
Pat: (explains evil stuff)
Disney: crap,he's onto us.
Lol this is my fave comment ever😂
lol ikr if disney watched the wal e movie theory they would just strip it from everything or sometim=ng like sue him idk XD SO DARN TRUE DOE
#Disney EXPOSED TELL US THE TRUTH DISNEY WERE ON TO YOU!
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Disney: O freeze, fat pats on to us, better make a sequel before he makes another theory!!!!! Mat Pat: Ok lets make sure Disney makes a sequel so I can get going on another theory
I agree the trolls are the real villains i read a disney theory saying that kristoff wasnt orphan.. Trolls in mythology n stuff r known 4 kidnapping kids.. Thats what they did n must hav altered kristoff's memory about his actual family n also other ppls memories bout kristoff..
Lps Eloise "them" who?
They do it right when they meet Ana and Elsa as kids. I'm guessing that their plan to marry into the royal family started right then.
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In the original story, "The Snow Queen" by H. C. Andersen, the villain is a character reffered to as the Devil and, in some editions, as the Troll. That's what makes me believe this theory isn't completly far fetched.
The OG Troll creates a Magic Mirror that can reflect all flaws of character one has. After he is done mocking humanity with it, he climbs the stairway to Heaven in order to mock God Himself. However, once he reaches the first Angel, the Mirror starts trembling and breaks into millions upon millions of pieces. These all fall to Earth, piercing through the heart and eyes of regular people and "freezing them", that is, turning them into egotistical, cruel, manipulative assholes that can see but ugliness in the world.
holy cow your right
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"No villain gets a redemption"
Zuko: that's though,buddy
i kind of wish \this is what the second movie was actually about.
Just let Matpat spill ideas for Disney to start working on😂
Maybe Hans will get redeemed in frozen 3
yeah
Frozen threes gonna be bad. How bout frozen 56?
@@irispark5561
like Disney will make that many sequels.
we might get Frozen 3, but then it will be Frozen live action remake. with CGI Sven and autotuned Let It Go.
Frozen 2 has Hans doing redemption
Frozen 2: let’s have Elsa follow a magic voice that leads her to a magic forest where she meets the elements from Captain Planet.
@@sjonviercrump4160 Are you waiting by the door? With tissues?
(SPOILERS)
The magic voice actually is Ahtohallan imitating young Iduna's call..
Hans redemption doesn't happen spoiler alert
I did not see him
FROZEN 3 COMFIRMED?
O SNAP! They be trolling the whole KINGDOM!
But OUAT isn't canon to Disney, although I suppose that doesn't really affect the theory :D
hey the theorizer still doing coralline theories? just asking
The Theorizer i see what you did there 😆
The Theorizer Ayee I love your theories mate
The Theorizer dude your vids are spot on!Game theory and you(new content since your old content was kinda mediocre) have the best theories
Disney: We are planning redemption arc for Hans in Frozen 2!
Me in 2022 who watched Frozen 2 and didn't see any Hans: *visible confusion*
I feel like Disney watches these theories and then goes “what’s the best way to completely disprove this?” Rip “Rapunzel is Elsa’s sister” and “Trolls are the real villains”. Oh, and don’t forget “Agnar and Eduna give birth to Tarzan” because spoiler alert *water saw the whole thing and it begs to differ.*
Water KILLED Agnar and Eduna to make sure that didn't happen!
@@vger4781 I think you mean the ocean spirit in Moana
@@neil7987 I think u mean actual Mosna, the daughter of Maui and whatever the mother’s name is(and ofc with the help of her pig brother).
@@BoSaGuy Thank you for correcting me!
Trolls could still be the villians though. Just cuz Hans wasn't in Frozen 2 doesn't me he is for sure guilty
Have you heard the theory that the trolls actually lured in and kidnapped Kristoff at the beginning of the movie? The theory suggests Kristoff was actually helping his father, who was working as an iceman, in that opening scene and that the trolls lured him away and kidnapped him. They probably would have wiped or altered his memory to keep him from remembering the event and left a changeling child in his place for his parents. The lure of changelings suggest that trolls are especially fond of blond-haired, blue-eyed children. In Scandinavian folklore, trolls are the main culprit of kidnapping human children and leaving behind changelings, which would fit the geographical setting of Frozen. I think this theory actually provides even more proof for your own theory that the trolls are not the innocent, friendly, helpful creatures that we perceive them to be.
Wow...
Spoilers.
Victoria Sillo I agree with this #TROLLLOLLOL 😏😏😏
i thought it was dark elves, not trolls
I thought something was wrong I was wondering why are they doing this they got to be a reason are they working for someone
Victoria Sillo 8
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I'm adding to this theory: the trolls were the ones who sent them into the dangerous enchanted forest knowing exactly how damgerous it was
Moral of the story:
Never Trust trolls
I don't believe you
Actual Moral:
Never trust anyone who says the phrase "Fixer Upper",
tehehehehehehe
pretty sure most problems in the movie could have been avoided how their parents taken the time to get her help with her powers and have her learn to control them...like they see her emotions effect them but put no bother in to helping her channel that. #dadoftheyear
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Who else thinks that MatPat should do a theory on Coraline
Oh! I love that movie!
Which part of it would he do the theory on?
Galaxy Crystel YESSSSSS EVERYONE LIKE THIS COMMENT SO HE SEES IT
You mean that horror flick disguised as a children's animated movie? Yeah. Hated it. Watched it with my friends while cowering under the bed with a submachine gun.
Yesssssss that'd be seriously awesome, it's one of my favourite movies xD
Shorty Shorty it was accculy a book before it was movie
I will actually watch Frozen 2 if this theory is right
Sean Powers same
Sean Powers yea me to
Sean Powers so have i
Sean Powers same
Me too!
"No not Sven, Not even the Duke of Wealsletown... ITS OLAF.! Nope its not Olaf that would be stupid" Got me dieing
MatPat: it has been confirmed that the parents survived and gave birth to Tarzan.
Frozen 2: it has been confimed that we was lying lol
*were
I think both can be real in same time
I mean theoretically they could've still been alive, they still never truly show that the parents are dead, just that the water swept them up. So in theory, considering Eduna [sp?] was Northaldra [sp?] - the water spirit could've saved them. Granted that doesn't mean the Tarzan thing would be any more legit - but ... might be fun if they ever decided to make a TV show to explore what Elsa can do now [or really tell us about that poor guard that was trapped for so long and how he and his lady get on XD]
@@happysmilesworldandgames8755 I'm pretty sure the 'was' is intentional and placed to make them sound dumb lol
@@Crow_Smith oh having a mini series would be awesome!!! just people seem to think the director or one of the writers saying he likes a theory is enough to make it canon, when it never could, given they freaking take place some 40 years apart!!
Sister begs her to build a snowman for 13 years
BUILDS ONE WITHOUT HER
OMG, I DIED SO TRUE LMAO
Jacob Black lelelelellleellelelelelelelelelelleleleleleelelelelelelel
Jacob Black so true XD
if you died how did you comment? :v
SERIOUSLY THE CREATORS OF FROZEN NEED TO WATCH THIS VIDEO AND MAKE THAT MOVIE!!!!
Sarah Thompson "YEAH"
DEFINETLY.
Sarah Thompson YAAAAASSSSSS
F*CKING YES!!!
Then again ... ( Guilty here ) I've watched Frozen a good few times, and have noticed quite alot of strangeness concerning Hans, he shows honest and earnest love for Anna, and yet time and time again he goes to show his affection, but juuust before he does, theres this split moment where he becomes somewhat confused looking, before doing a complete 180 with his personality.
Same with him at the end, about to kill Elsa - before that, completely different personality, honest and earnest, suddenly a look of confusion and now hes grinning ear to ear about to strike down the woman he SAVED, shown concern for and tried so desperately to convince Elsa of her humanity, like ... thats not just coincidence.
Disney is known for throwing in these little hints, suggestions for Stories they intend to follow up in a second movie, if you check the movies they INTENDED a second movie to roll out for them, they all contain these little hints an suggestions, small and tiny, but they are there, not something you'd innately sense or see the first time you roll the movie, and they all came to be in these various stories second movie.
Can you just appreciate that he changed the intro to make it winter themed.
That is dedication if I've ever seen it!
what about if Han's has a twin? or multiple personality disorder? it could explain this as well.
leo couture or the movie needed a villian and a love triangle between hans Anna and cristof was a problem so they made hans evil wether id does have sense or not,i blame you let it go!!! Because the song we didn't have our evil ice qween!!!!
He had an evil twin
@@Ella_Moore_2025 yeah, out of the 2 that is the most likely, as when you have a multiple personality disorder your other personality goes by a different name, as it is a different person. also an evil twin is funnier!
I see Hans having Disassociative Identify Disorder more likely than him having a twin.
its never twins watson
I'm pretty sure there's a Tumblr post about this...
Edit: THERE *IS*
"What if when they trolls said "Get the fiancee out of the way" they meant it?
What if they cast a spell on Hans that replaced his feelings for her with greed?
What if Hans is stuck inside his own mind, screaming and crying, because the love of his life is slipping through his fingers, by his own hand?
What if the open door never closed?"
"wait WHAT"
Edit: Okay so people are actually noticing this comment for some reason, and I feel the need to clarify, this is a post from Tumblr!
I didn't need the saddness
WhaIT!?!??!
I saw this before and immediately thought of the post while watching this
and you wonder why trolling people is evil..
trolls are the reason
they bad
I love this
Have you seen the SuperCarlinBrothers theory that Hans represents the Mirror from the original tale? It's really interesting. When he interacts with Anna, he's lovably awkward and charming. When he interacts with the Duke of Westleton, he's a cunning politician. When he interacts with the soldiers, he's an honorable knight. When he interacts with Elsa, he's sympathetic. But when he shows his true colors, he's cold and empty.
ztslovebird I haven't, but I'm about to now. Thanks so much
ztslovebird This is my new favorite theory omg
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if i remember its also because in the original story a piece of glass from a giant mirror fell into his eye making him see all the evil in the world and mimick other people
Taylor Trammell what's the original frozen story ?
2:10
Why is Hans smiling like the Grinch?! 🤣🤣🤣
me: oh, a frozen theory, this could be good.
matpat: can't we just let it go?
me: *sets computer on fire*
Dramatic much.
Cool yourself.
Dear Martin Hodges,
That’s a great profile pic!
Sincerely, me
But ur frozen..
You mean on ice 😏😂
“If there is a frozen 2”
Me in 2019: Ahaha, now there is.
Edit: I just watched frozen two-
more like, Aa ~ Aaa~
Lmao
Airyana Casey yeeeee XD
Ahhhh. the comments section beats me every time
And yet they don’t give Hans a redemption arc. Kind of sad, really. I’d have loved to see a redemption arc.
AND the Trolls say the heart is less easily persuaded, MEANING - Hans actually was in love with Anna and was her true love, so the Trolls couldn't let him kiss her because that would ruin their plan for Kristoff!! You're right, his plan would've needed him to kiss Anna either way, but the Trolls couldn't let that happen, so they manipulate his mind to not just be evil, but to not kiss Anna no matter what
4:38, I think we got a glimps into Elsa's darker side in that scene and something is telling be we are underestimating how dark she can be. I am not trying to hate on any Elsa fans out there. This is just a theory.
5:54 background beat + frozen song = awsome remix
i need a full remix of that now.
Oh yeah
Frozen 2: *releases*
Hans: *excitedly watching till the end to realise he wasn't involved in a good way*
Hans: STILL WAITING FOR THAT REDEMPTION ARC YALL-
@Ok. that is a flat out LIE
FNaF Patrol Even we must admit. It just wasn’t the sequel we wanted. The climax was a boring dam destroying thing and the villain was a guy who was already dead!
@@bluelilac17 each that true
Hans ain't dead watch frozen fever
@@ShadowbirdOfficial But no one said that Hans was dead
Mat Pat is just too smart for Disney to comprehend
*Yes,yes he is.*
Disney *exists* MatPat *its big brain time*
yes yes ohhhh yes
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Was that too much???
@@insertusernamehere8324 yes that was too much
“We want to redeem him”
Frozen 2: Hans is never mentioned
I like "The Film Theorists"
same
iis the best
And we like you ;)
The Film Theorists yes but I LOVE YOU MATPAT, STEPH, EDITORS, AND MOST OF ALL: CATPAT
The Film Theorists he relied :O
MatPat, can you do a theory about Christophe? Like why his parents were never there, and the people that were around him and didn't pay attention to him.
memory magic from the trolls maybe?
Didn't they kidnap him like, straight after that whole memory wipe thing happened? They probably had every intention of just grabbing the first human child they saw so they could have a human family member to play matchmaker with.
This theory, paired with the previous one, fill in like 90% of the many plot holes in Frozen and it's really cool
It's Kristoff.
small potatoes
J
trolls are known of stealing or changing kids, because they think that human children are prettier than troll children. pretty scandinavian thing o.o
Actually SuperCarlinBrothers talked about how Hans was a mirror and he just reflected what all of the characters did
which is another theory
and SuperCarlinBrothers isnt matpat right? matpat and the carlin brothers dont share the same thought right? their not the same people
@@henlooo8135 THEORY
@@gejaylyn bruh what I meant was their theory was different
I'm a big SCB fan. I've seen 99.99% of their episodes. But I have to give this one to MatPat. Heck, even SCB eventually did this theory, but after MatPat
What if he turned “bad” so Anna forgot that her sister almost killed everyone
The picture of Hans with twisted facial features genuinely scares ALOT.
It's just creepy.
ejf m also Elsa
I think its Funny XD
Seriously, it's gonna be in my nightmares, I have to look away
Hannah Russell Same!
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Well of course Phillip is unlikely to become the queen. He's a man
Phillip would need quite a bit of make-up, but she'd make a very regal queen.
LMAO
Also LMAO
Tom Hilliam SPOILER ALERT
Jk lol
MatPats Law: The FUN choice is the RIGHT choice
After this vid I think it truly was the right choice.
LPS PingPong shall be added to the theorist bingo
Elite Cheese yes it is
No it never is
Vandalism sounds fun about now so it right thing to DO ;)
Actually in the movie hanz lies telling everyone Anna was dead. He lied saying before she died they exchanged wedding vows meaning he would be the king or prince. BUT BRO COULD HAVE A GIRL AND BE KING/PRINCE.
Does he get that redemption though?
*No... No he doesn’t*
No he doesn't get the reademtion \_(ツ)_/¯
“The true villains in Frozen are the trolls”
Me after watching frozen 2: No it’s a dam
Lol 😂
Actually, the guy who's name I've forgotten
Nah, still the Trolls... & The Duke of Weselton.
@@CuddleWolf Their grandfather
CuddleWolf3364 it was the grandfather but I can’t remember if he had a name either. 😂😂
Galaxy Potato GrandPabbi
*watches video*
*grabs laptop and opens Wattpad*
It’s fanfic time
RIGHT THO?
SO ME
Snek Boi i
Omg yess
😂
"Fear is your greatest enemy"
"BOO! Gotcha!"
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
MattPatt : "Frozen again. Oh my god, can we just let it go."
Me : "But we can't hold this information back anymore."
It's the perfect knowledge stoooooorrrm
You missed the joke
Great joke😂
STOP
WITH
THE
JOKES
It’s funny how my theories take the internet by storm
Ok but about the prison cell Elsa was locked into. It definitely seems if it were built for her because the chains covered her both hands entirely and that’s the only way to stop her from using her powers, but Hans wouldn’t have enough resources or time just to build a cell for Elsa NOR DID HE KNOW THAT COVERING HER HANDS WOULD STOP HER FROM USING HER POWERS. But who did? Her parents. Her parents built a cell for Elsa just in case she went out of control.
who would tell Hans of a secret cell ? btw
the trolls ofc
It didn't stop her powers anyway so whoever built it failed to keep her under control
Considering all the extra material they seem to be building into with other media like once upon a time it wouldn’t be too surprising that her mother built it out of a natural fear born from those traumatic memories of what happened with her sisters.
If her parents built it, well that's just dark...way to go..no wonder they didn't get much time on screen
Wanna turn this movie even darker?
The Trolls are Goblins.
According to the mythology of the area (more specifically from the original people of Norway, Sweden and Finland aka Saami people), the dead people go to a place called "Underground" or "Beneath land" and take a goblin/troll like form (I called them goblins because that's the direct translation to the word, though its not exactly what they would be. Nordic languages have a lot more words for these kinds of creatures than English does). As their appearance is debatable and same creature can shift its appearance, its unknown what they really look like.
These creatures have the ability to cause misfortune to the living and can even step above ground. They also are very protective over those who are bound to them by blood (ie their living relatives) and are hostile towards those who can be seen as "enemy" like rivals and so forth. According to the folklore, these creatures can cause physical damage and possess magical abilities, gifted to them in death of their original form as a human.
What if these "Trolls" we see are actually Kristoff's real family and ancestors, who are raising him without any recollection of their past lives, yet feeling connection to him? This would explain their behaviour towards him and Anna, who would be viewed as the perfect girl for him along with them wanting to get rid of Hans as he is Kristoff's "enemy", his rival when trying to get Anna's interest.
So there you have it folks, Frozen's "trolls" are actually Kristoff's long deceased ancestors who have taken the form similar to a goblin, bound to him by their blood relation, watching over him and trying to fight for him, mistaking Hans to be an enemy just because he brought a girl home to be healed.
Another thing regarding the folklore of the northern Europe is the fact that here, Trolls are considered to be inheredly evil, large and consume humans. And the Trolls of this mythological bit would be called Giants or Jotunheims (different from the Viking mythology as they aren't Ice Giants). Jotunheims are large as a mountain and can stay unmoved for centuries, which is why often they are drawn to have growing trees go across their bodies, grass and other plants.
In Finland, there is even a song that states that two of these creatures, called Malla and Saana were lovers about to get married, who were deep frozen by a Swedish Troll called Pältsa next to the place where a lake was grown from the tears of the bride, Malla.
Man, isn't mythology just great?
You know more then i know about my countrys mythology xD mb cause im only 11...
WAOOOOOOoO
I'm sorry but the Saami aren't the "original people of Scandinavia" I mean sure they were pushed up north a bit throughout history but they NEVER were the majority of the Norwegian fjord region, where the film takes place. It's still a plausible theory though.
RenChannel yessss
@@alvamistelskastodberg302 lol
Revisiting this theory after several years and forgot about the "fear will be your enemy - boo!! gotcha!!" laugh every time
That distorted Hans picture is nightmare fuel.
BurningLanguages yep
I feel like disney are watching this going " hmmmm.... this is a good idea. We were just going to have him apologise😂😂"
I think they would say oh shoot,he's on to us
I'm still so upset that he didn't get a redemption arc. I'm fully on board with this theory.
Me too... his plot just makes no sense... and in the original story it says the trolls are evil..
I'm so upset that I didn't respond etc I'm fully on board with this theory.
“Annas gonna be the queen!”
well, he was right-
“No other Disney villain has got that sort of treatment”
Lady Tremame: “I was in Cinderella 3 Lost in time am I a joke to you”.
Edit: Thank you so much for the likes. I’ve never even gotten 50.
But did anyone watch Cinderella 3, I didn't even know it existed
@@EmperorSarnie i didnt know its a thingg
@@EmperorSarnie it’s surprisingly good
@@EmperorSarnie you should check it out, it was surprisingly good
My Mum hates these trolls and "Fixer Upper" for no apparent reason. I think she may have realised they're evil.
That make sense
Your mom is a fictional character mind reader.
damn, she's one step ahead after hearing those red-flagged words probably
Your mom has magic powers
I really want Hans to come back. Everybody deserves a second chance. That could be a new thing for Disney too, giving bad guys a second chance.
I haven’t thought of it...but I agree with yo everyone deserves a secound chance. Disney should teach a few of us about secound chances
Pearl Exactly- they made all the live action movies to make more money!
Disney's Descendants 3 (cough cough)
Do you think there's still room for this in a Frozen 3 sequel, perhaps?
@@amyliaclenny1866 I feel yes because every popular and big movie becomes a trilogy. So there could be a frozen 3.
Imagine MatPat ruling his own kingdom:
The Kingdom of Theorydel. King MatPat
I guess Han will always be “Solo”
Edit: Thank you so much for 200+ likes from just a Star Wars/Frozen pun
Brian O'Conner XD
StOp
LetsSaboogi wai?
Lmfao 😂😂😂
Good one
Actually in Orlando Disney world Hollywood studios there is a frozen stage play and while you wait in line little videos by the characters come on screens and one of them is a warning about trolls and how their “tricky and dangerous little things” so I’m on your side
Reaper Is coming wow i've been going to universal studios Orlando, yet im into these theories maybe i should go to disney, just one time and research these and probably find out what the trolls are really are!
Spoiler For Frozen 2
"...Anna is going to be the Queen." Finally a correct MattPat prediction.
FINALLY!
for the first time i n forever
No he legit predicted game of throne.
Also (probably after this video) the Deadpool theory of the dead dude who was only there as a troll
finally?
I also thought its kinda wierd how the Trolls tell them to hide the Magic, not learning to control it but just straight up hide it, not fixing anything- but triggering everything