We now have 4 INFJ Mugs!!! You INFJs are taskmasters... one day we will design a mug that lives up to your standards... until then... here's what we've got - teespring.com/stores/love-who ~ Nathan
I hate unicorns and all and everything they currently symbolize, politicize, whatever. How 'bout a centaur instead. I like those ice bergs.......hmmmmmmm
As an INTJ, I can be social, but it's forced and not natural for me. I need to prepare myself to do it and I get tired after. If I'm not well in some way, the last thing that I want is to socialize.
INTJ here, for me social occasions are like rhythm games, I can play well with I practice and I would gain some sort of satisfaction if things don't go awkward. But I reserve the right to quit the game any moment I see fit.
INTJ cheering someone else up: change the direction they are facing in order to set them up for happiness in the long run, and then throw pebbles at them to get them to go in that direction
Welcome to the club. Lol I still have people who tell me how extroverted I am, and they refuse to entertain the idea that my extraversion is an acquired skill, and my extreme introversion is a very fixed trait.
I'm an INFJ married to an INTJ. As a (very) general rule, I would seem more approachable and more ready to listen to people. However, my INTJ husband can flip a switch when he decides to be friendly and I may be secretly judging people for being illogical, even as I am listening with empathy and affirming them. Sometimes we INFJs are jerks.
@blah blah Hey blah blah, I don't know if it is linked to our self-worth so much as it is to our desire for accuracy and truth: not just that we are right, but that everyone should be. I know I hate for anyone to be wrong! :-D As for how we handle correction when we are wrong, that may be a little more of an individual thing. It's kind of hard to judge the invisible thought processes of an introverted thinker and INFJs do not have the same facility with expressing our thinking accurately as say, an INTP. That could make us lash out emotionally, but beneath the surface our thinking will go into overdrive, looking for what we may have wrong and we will course-correct. An INFj is more likely to be annoyed if you correct them in an insensitive way. I know my INTJ husband is probably amused by my focus on accuracy, while he is more about expedience.
The point of understanding the different types is not to rail at them, it's to recognize the differences and work with them. I'm not interested in a heated argument with a stranger. Good day to you.
"I may be secretly judging people for being illogical, even as I am listening with empathy and affirming them" Lol yeah! This is a total jerk move. I hate when people do this and when I spot they've done it, I can literally never look at them the same way again. If you feel one way, why would you tell me the opposite? -INTJ
@@kindauncool To be fair, it's something that builds up over time. If a person values something, I would be compelled to value it too, but many times that exact same person doesn't even try to reciprocate, making it a one-way street. After being emotional dumbs for an extended while, anyone would start to care less about what others do and treat them just as they would do us. So sorry, kinda, not much though. -INFJ
Solving peoples problems is still a huge part of making someone feel better about their life, it's just sometimes you have to be in the... 'I'm not judging you, just listening' role ~ Nathan
I have always found cold truth to be very comforting and it is great to know that the person you talk to will always be honest like Intjs most times are. You can also offer great Ni perspectives and help people look at things from a different angle!
I am an INTJ, I can see through the cause of people's problems and know how they can solve it, but don't care enough to go through a conversation to solve their problem. And sometimes if I go out of my way to tell them what's wrong and how to solve it, if they take offense and refuse to see logic, I get annoyed and get reminded why I don't care to solve their problems usually.
Yes! I had a counselor like that and she did help me a lot. At that point I craved detachment from strong feelings I was dealing with. Also I had a genius of an INTJ boss who used to give me little lectures about his business when he had free time. It was like going to college - I was mentally scribbling notes and still use his ideas to this day.
Yep definitely INFJ, however, just a very introverted INFJ, because I have no friends, but I'm still empathetic to a lot of people and I will listen to them, but no one wants to listen to me...
INFJ here. I had friends growing up but it never seemed like they valued the bond like I did, and I just got criticized and used. So after they one by one became distant and moved on, I moved away and changed a lot. I don't do the friend thing anymore, that hurt too much.
I've come back and I think I'm actually an intj instead of an infj. I'm still very confused, but with all the things I picked up on about my personality, I think I lean more towards intj than infj.
intj, yes i could be mistaken for an extrovert because i can emulate it. I can't connect very well with people (i can feel love only for a couple people), but I can make It look like i care for people even when I don't, so I can act social when I want to. I do value my Fi a lot and it's almost like I use my Te to satisfy it.
@@no_special_person yeah no in the end i was a mistyped esfp lol... i learned that intjs clearly look like introverts even when they try to be social, but they can be really warm and caring. their Te is on another level tho
@@talkshh are you an esfp? I'm Abit confused. Also I want to clarify: My experience with this extends to 1 on 1 interactions, I'm actually Abit off from your comment. But ideally I will work myself up to a point where I can do what you do!
@@no_special_person yes i'm an esfp, that's why social emulation (of Fe) comes easy to me. intjs tho, you can read it on their face if they don't give a fuck about the social situation they're in, and also if they're enjoying it. they're much more honest in that sense imho. they won't force themselves.
@@talkshh I often don't want to appear an asshole, so if I know someone is having troubles, I'll ask about things but I generally won't think about it when I'm not with that person. Much bigger issues in the world
The intj in me is revelling in this isolation period. I wish every day was just me in a room by myself. It's just unfortunate that people are dying for me to finally achieve my dream
Wow same. I live with my entirely Extroverted family so I went the extra mile and switched my entire sleep cycle so that I only have to interact with them for a short 4-5 hours in the evening. My mum cannot understand how I've been holed up in my room for 2 weeks without wanting to run outside or meet people.
Yes! Although, being married, I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode. "You're in isolation with all the time to indulge into your desired hobbies! But it's with your extroverted husband who is now stuck at home with you with no other social outlet."
I’m an INFJ, my mom thinks I’m extroverted and always want to be with other people, one time she forced me to go to a party, I came back and fell asleep in three minutes and didn’t leave the house for the entire weekend
Now, usually, an INTJ wouldn't mistake himself for an INFJ, we are just too rational to consider the possibility of an Fe in our functions. I understand that, in moments when an INFJ is in "logical mode" (which they do frequently) may mistake themselves as INTJs. Also, I've always found that INFJs has some sort of ... aura around them, a feeling of zenitude that you can't find elsewhere. People automatically like them (in general), which is the polar opposite of the energy emitted by an INTJ. Also, to the external eyes, a friendship with an INTJ can be, and I quote some people I lost, "exhausting". I let you interpret this as you like in the comments if you want. Nevertheless, I know 2 INFJs girls, they are great friends and I'd like to have more of them (I'm describing them like Pokemons but you get my point)
@@andreagreenwood93 Not necessarily, more like trying to optimize everything, including people. Being too critical, too blunt, valuing truth over feelings ...
@@omdam9 Ah I see how that could be some INTJs. Personally I don't interfere with other people much and I don't want them to interfere with me. But the overanalytical part can be divisive, and I've been told stop worrying so much about what "might" happen. But how can I, I want there to be a plan for everything.
@@andreagreenwood93 I'm only talking about the very few people in your close circle. That's the type of friend I am I want those that I care about to constantly improve. I leave futur possibilities to myself, there is no use trying to explain to someone with no Ni about possible outcomes, I just act unsurprised and undisturbed when shit hits the fan and hope that maybe someday they will be like "do you think this will work" before failing spectacularly.
Haha! Yea me and you are clearly loving the excuse to self isolate. Also you have a very good insight in to what the rest of my set looks like since it's our shared lair ~ Nathan
(INFP) I'm very fortunate as I've had relationships with both an INTJ and an INFJ. The video is a great description of both types. As the unpaid therapists of the world, INFP's can get an intimate understanding of those in their lives. INTJ - She would tell me how she felt every emotion people are supposed to feel but couldn't formulate a way to effectively express them. Frustrated at times, she would express grievances to why she couldn't do so and through her expressions would do the very thing she felt she couldn't. My emotional way of looking and describing things things helped her feel acknowledged and "gave her world depth". INFJ - Her presence alone was soothing. I would listen to her future forward way of thinking out loud and in doing so she would understand what and how to structure the things she was going to do next. I could tell she felt that someone was listening to her for a change as she became more relaxed with each passing plan and thought. For either one, I could do this tirelessly. When someone benefits from your time and makes progress in their lives as a result, that is an investment paid back with interest. (What can I say. INFP's are hopeless romantics after all)
As an infj, this is exactly what happens with my infp roommate. My life has become better since she moved in. I feel heard ☺️and she tells me I have a warmth that makes her wanna share things with me. Something that is hard for her
@@jays7259 I think you are being unfair with this statement. From my experience INFPs don't always "listen and understand", quite the contrary for some of them. As an example (among other) my mother, an INFP, is extremely judgmental and any debate/discussion is impossible if she disagrees. She cares about me a lot. But she can be very harsh if I don't make the decisions SHE thinks are the best according to her lifestyle, values, opinions, etc. And has gaslighted me more than once. The worst is that while she is aware of not being perfect, whenever I gather the courage to tell her what's problematic and hurtful about her behavior she refuses to acknowledge it, therefore it will ever change. And then she is surprised that I'm not open... I think a lot of types, not just INFJ, INFP or ENFJ, have the potential to listen and understand granted they are mature, healthy and open-minded enough.
LOLLLLL I'm INFP married to a social INTJ. This had me laughing. "If a person is feeling bad, it's because they have a problem & when that problem is solved, they'll feel good." 😂😂😂 So true. Like if I'm watching something sad and I'll cry and feel so deeply. He'll be like, "Why do you keep making yourself cry? Stop watching those sad things & you won't cry." 😂😂😂😂 lmfao he thinks crying is a bad thing.
@monsune lol, I'm an intj and I have told my husband, if you don't want to feel bad then don't expose yourself to those things,then he feels ok🥰🥰🥰 I just don't want him to feel any sorrow or sadness. Be safe you guys ♥️♥️♥️♥️
As an INFJ, when I go to make a program, I always think about the human component and how to make something as user friendly as possible. Making it is one thing, making it intuitive and easy to understand is an entirely different beast.
The Vegan Villainess Me to. Because I don’t want other people to have to struggle to figure out difficult things. I figure it out for them, and make it simple for those who come after me to use. I think there is overlap with INTJ’s here. We build similar systems, but from slightly different motivations.
@@davidkepke1435 I also aim for this. For many programmers, the whole point is to make a feature available. But I think it's important to keep in mind that programs which are dead easy are very likable and likable means adoption.
I used to be an INFJ vegan.... until I realised I was the bad guy and dropped the veganism. Now I feel better for it. Here's a piece of advice you didn't ask for...: research why I would do this whilst feeling extremely confident that I am achieving; for the environment, against cruelty to animals and especially for my health.... unlike when I was vegan.
I'm an INTJ. I can manage to be outgoing in order to achieve something, I can emulate it. But I usually assume all people need to solve their problems in order to feel better and this makes me come across as cold, although I mean no harm. I'm not an empath to people's feelings at all, and this caused me to lose a lot of "friendships" because I just couldn't understand why someone would want a hug and kind words instead of a solution. I can't comfort people for the life of me lol.
Whenever I take Myers Briggs tests I either get INFJ or INTJ with an almost 50/50 spilt between the F and T functions. Depending on the situation will depend whether I lean towards one or the other, but either way it seems to be a sucky place to be in terms of any decent level of social contact and life progress.
I have the same issue. It's a uncomfortable place to function from. Generally, my thoughts are more akin to INTJ, but my desire for peace overrides & I resort to the 'polite' behavior of an INFJ. There's a lot that never gets said.
@@LL-muddy1 I've definitely improved over the years to the point where I can be quite assertive, but in a considerate way which doesn't ruffle too many feathers. It's definitely about picking your battles and learning the best strategies to get through it without causing too much fuss. It's not been smooth sailing, but it's definitely better than it was.
If you’re still unsure after watching this video, you’re definitely an INFJ. I can’t imagine an INTJ not getting a complete clarity from these contrasts. They’re day and night from the INTJ perspective.
Yep. Definitely INTJ. Zero friends and incapacity to relate/communicate to anyone except INTP's/other INTJ's lol. Also, this pandemic has highlighted that my Type-A overprepared Doomsday Prepper lifestyle was highly rewarding and worthwhile investment. I'm ecstatic and hyped in a pandemoniam/chaos situation. Btw, your eyebrows are LEGENDARY.
Lol, that's literally what ever INFJ says dude lol @niro. You're definitely INFJ. No INTJ is literally ever confused or somewhat relate to the INFJ type at all. It is 100% always the INFJ'S with this dilemma. They develop tert thinking and think they are thinkkers...
I am INFJ and my husband is INTJ. I loved this video. Understanding the difference in the Fe and Te of these types really has helped our communication bc other than that, I feel we think very similarly otherwise. Also "lurking in their own lair, INTJs can work in benefit of people of but working in the process doesn't need (or want) other people around" made me laugh out loud. This is so apt for him :)
This video made me clear why I am not an INFJ as I used to believe. Thanks for explaining the meaning of second ('responsible') cognitive function, how people experience us. In my case it's 'Te' rather than 'Fe'. It was a great and informative video. I feel shocked. I'm reprocessing my whole life since I watched this episode last night. My "dis-functionalities" and my strong desire to believe in Utopia make totally sense now.
Your first function is your inner Hero, it defines you. Second, your inner parent, it makes responsible choices. Third, your inner child, it motivates you. INTJs have Ni hero, Te parent, and Fi child. We have a heroic sense of Ambition, we use Pragmatism to make responsible choices, and Morality is what motivates us. INFJs have Ni hero, Fe parent, and Ti child. They have heroic Ambition, use Empathy to be responsible, and Logic is what motivates them. INTJs want to make things more efficient because deep down we are motivated by a strong sense of right and wrong. INFJs want to help people and manage their feelings because deep down they are motivated by a desire to learn and make sense of the world. I hope this was helpful.
It's extremely easy to know whether you know you're and INFJ or INTJ... INFJ by definitions are thinkers they are not feelers. Feelers are those who are "introverted feeling" Users, for the rest we only refer and care about other people's feelings, we understand them and manipulate them, and we feed off of that, but that's it, our own feelings are buried, I have saved so many people who I don't give the slightests of Fs about... I speak both languages and I am fully balanced about everything. The first and only thing you need to know the difference is... Do you want to save humanity? and other questions like... Do you feel like you have to change the world through human hearts?... Can you feel what other's feel?... It's too easy.
@@hasgoodles7807 Hey :D why would say that I lack humility? Because I spoke about myself? I might've meant to trigger or might've wanted to be a little over direct but... What's the point of holding back? I was actually talking about the fact that a lot of what I want cannot be controlled... But... Will you say I have no humility from that message?
I have taken the test 14 times. I get INTJ-T 50% of the time, and INFJ-T 50% of the time. My thinking to feeling ratio is always just a couple percentages either side of the halfway point. I relate to both very strongly. Does this make me INXJ-T?
Looking to the cognitive functions will hopefully make it more clear for you. I'm an INFJ and slowing been coming to terms with how crap I am at Te lol. Thought I was so efficient.
No, it makes you INFJ. INFJ's are always like this and none of these tests ever catch it... The only test that will actually catch it is the official MBTI Step II where they actually have the "INFJ Thinker" or whatever.... INFJ's develop their thinking function and then think they are thinkers...
I have only ever had one test type me correctly [ISFP]. I don't remember which one it was, though. I always get INTJ or INFJ on the other tests, and after looking at cognitive functions, I realized I wasn't either of those. I relate more to INTJ, because it's the same functions in a different order, but I am definitely more of an Fi/Se type than an Ni/Te type.
No, according to the theory, you are either one type or another. You must have a preference for a way of thinking and feeling. To understand what it is you've got to look into the cognitive functions. Since you've got your perceiving axis pinpointed, you just have to look at the judging axis, it could either be Te-Fi (INTJ) or Fe-Ti (INFJ). Briefly, the fist balances between directly acting on the external world towards one or more goals (Te) and keeping true to your individual principles/morals/self (Fi). The second balances between creating connections and keeping armony between other people (Fe) and keeping your own self-sufficiency and a coherent personal view of the world (Ti). Look for these two patterns in your life and you'll see that one of the two fits better. There's more online on the dynamics between cognitive functions if you want to look into it more in depth Thinking about it, there's also the possibility you're in a loop. That's when, to avoid the discomfort of developing your auxiliary extroverted function, you unconsciously lean on your tertiary function. That could make an INTJ believe they're feelers or an INFJ may believe they're thinkers.
It's all about your cognitive functions. Those letters are just code for what those cognitive functions are. My guess is that you might be a jumper and as such, it's making it difficult to determine what your second and third functions are. (Meaning perhaps you prefer using your third function over your second.) Humans are complex creatures. It's still extroverted thinking and introverted feeling for an INTJ or extroverted feeling and introverted thinking for INFJ. Hmm, one difference I see in the two types to put this in other terms is a leniency towards a preference for protecting the truth for INTJs vs protecting the peace for INFJs. This isn't to say INTJs can't be tactful or that INFJs can't be truthful, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made to maintain one of those. Also, this isn't always the rule either, just common traits. Then again, those tests could be completely off and you might be something else entirely, because they are flawed.
Society doesn't expect women to hide their feelings and it expects them to be caring towards other people. Maybe that is why more women are INFJs than INTJs. I think I am an INFJ, but some of the traits does not suit me - I love debating, in most cases I think that decisions should be based on logic, oftentimes I hate when people sugar-coat things and I can also be kind of selfish. I definitely do not have the problem of "putting other people over yourself" that so many other INFJs seem to have. In my thoughts I am often very cynical, but I do not show this because I don't want to hurt people. Actually I try to repress most of those traits I have mentioned. This is because I care deeply about being likeable, and those traits are not very socially acceptable - especially not for women. So maybe I am truly an INTJ who just tries to be more like an INFJ because that is what society wants me to. Let me know what your thoughts on this is:)
I feel like I'm changing personalities between INFJ and INTJ, depending on the situation. I've understood the video very well, and yet I still can't decide. Edit: After learning cognitive functions, turns out that I'm an ENTP lol Edit2: After learning cognitive functions even more, turns out I'm an INTJ
You can try to learn about the cognitve functions of both types, especially Polr function. It is the 7th function in the cognitive function stack, for INTJ it's Polr Fe n for INFJ it's Polr Te. INTJ: Natural at Te, miserable at Fe. INFJ: Natural at Fe, miserable at Te. That's the biggest tell. I'm INTJ and was confused if I'm actually an INTP (because my Ne and Ti are very strong too) but when I learned about Polr Function, I realize I'm obviously an INTJ because my Fe game was really very bad. Tldr: if you're bad at Fe means you're INTJ, if you're bad at Te means you're INFJ. If you're bad at neither, means you are not INTJ nor INFJ.
@@someoneelse1044 whoa, So you're TiSeNiFe, thats the combination of INFJ's auxiliary+tertiary function and INTJ's dominant+inferior function. Interesting!
@@someoneelse1044 well, every sensors has their intuitives side (u have it in ur tertiary function). I have sensor too in my inferior function (I'm intj). N is not better than S, T is not better than F and vice versa. Every type has its strength n blindspot.
I'm an INTJ with an ENTP shadow side and an INFJ persona. I write arguments and evaluate decisions for judges as a living. At first I really struggled to apply empathy in my job. Over time an INFJ persona emerged to better handle the tragic stories in my field of work. I spent a lot of time debating whether I was an INFJ or INTJ because of this, but when I was faced with stressful situations and the ENTP would come out to deal with it I would always default back to INTJ, not INFJ. I further spoke to my professor (clinical psychologist & Jungian psychoanalyst) about my debating and he brilliantly was able to relate to me on my level (did a degree in Logic & Philosophy) and asked me if I were a Schopenhauer (INFJ) or a Nietzsche (INTJ). And that really cleared things up for me. Sometimes it really helps to be the presepctive of someone with a deep understanding on the topic. My professor doesn't subscribe to the whole MBTI world, but he's written countless books on Jung's archetypes and has a deep understanding of his works.
I went back and forth for years between these two types and finally was typed as ENTJ which was a shock. Being a loner and very independent, I didn't realize I could be an extrovert. Once it finally clicked, though, I can see it. I was that little kid at the curb selling vegetables while everybody else was off playing. I get bored "having fun" and love doing yard work. The highlight of my summer is when I work myself half to death selling fireworks and make thousands of dollars in two weeks - why is it so satisfying? I don't know, lol One of the big cues (which I was missing) is the way I can immediately think of the steps - 1, 2, 3, 4 - to reach any goal or complete any project. If I have a boring day ahead, I think of it as a project and break it into steps. But I'm definitely not the boardroom, sports car, suit and tie type, at all.
Great video! I'm an INFJ who has been called a counselor/therapist by so many people throughout my life lol. As I grew, I started valuing Ti more and using Fe less often which made me feel like an NT type, but I never valued Te more than Fe. I think the only times I engage in logical arguments is when I'm in a group of friends among which harmony exists and bringing up an argument won't affect the friendships on the long run. Are you going to add more hoodies?
Eventually yes we will add more hoodies, just trying to figure out how to make sure they print in high quality. What do you think would make a good INFJ hoodie? ~ Nathan
It’s so complicated for me and I mistyped as an INFJ for a long time because I am a counselor/therapist (for my job) - but I view people as problems to solve and break them down into smaller parts to address and “solve the issue.” I sort of think of myself and people like machines, and that can help me be unbiased - but also sometimes too “efficient” or cold. Personality types are so complicated because even working as a mental health therapist I am definitely far more focused on logic than people’s emotions.
One of my closest friends is an INFJ, meanwhile I'm an INTJ. We have many aspects in common, and we often talk about the challenges of daily life. But I'd noticed that we actually have a distinct approach towards human contact. He's better understanding the motivations and emotions of other people, but I have problems doing the same. I love this fundamental difference, and I think we spend a very nice time learning from each other
I don't like how at 7:35 he frames the notion that when a person is feeling bad it's because they have a problem, and when that problem is solved, they'll feel good. That's not a belief so much as it is observable fact; there is a reason why people feel bad, thus there is a "problem" that once solved will indeed make them feel better. I don't see how anyone with two brain cells to rub together could dispute this. People don't just magically feel bad for no reason, and if they did, it would be because they had a problem that caused them to magically feel bad for no reason, presumably some form of brain damage or brain anomalies.
Lurking in lairs! That is truly, where we live. This is in so much alignment with the video I just posted today about the negative aspect of being my type. We are so immersed in “the thing” and getting it to work in the way we see it, it’s sometimes hard to escape. Also thank you for touting the inaccuracy with personality tests lol. Also thank you for using the functions for accurate triangulation🙏🏻.
I'm an INFJ and I've constantly thought if I was an INTJ because I gravitate towards Ni-Ti and completely shut down my Fe-Se. I'm working towards exercising my extroverted functions because I find that when I use them I get better feedback from people and I even feel motivated to use them often for the Fe environment I can be involved in and create (to feel part of something). Quite the opposite of INFJ, people probably think I'm an NT when they talk to me for the way I automatically refer to Ni-Ti and come off stoic and then I feel bad I gave them a misunderstanding and try to change the issue if I can (which is indicative of Fe). There's honestly so much overlap in behavior with INTJ, but I think a surefire way to know is to really study the functions and learn to spot them in video examples and apply them to yourself. It can be difficult and take a lot of time, but it's worth it when you finally know because then there's room for self-growth. Learn as much as you can until you know it. There are tons of videos out there just make sure you know that they're giving you true information. If you're an Ni user you'll most likely know or get the feeling that you're one of the two types just because Ni can make you feel like an alien. I can't find another way to describe it, it's almost like you're on a mission or something and it has to be done.
Hah, Nathan, you're the best.💜 I just wanted to add something (bc i'm finally pretty sure about my type and i'm able to accept, that i'm...pretty sure about it). I'm a jumper infj and my best friend is an intj. We are amazinly similar. We have the same interests, the same approach to philosophy and religion, similar experiences... I can imagine that telling these two types apart is veeery difficult. I've noticed that the main thing that Ni-doms want to do is getting into other people's heads and understand their motives, it works for infj's and intj's as well. The main difference is that intj's are very good at optimizing things, they want to reform the world. They care about people but in slightly different way. They use Te+Fi so they sometimes...tend to think they're always right and force others to leave their comfort zones... It's actually really cute😂. They like ordering around and, suprisingly, their Te makes them generally less confused about their type. They are also less expressive, their faces seem sometimes like masks. Infj's usually want their face to express something (they tend to mirror feelings of others), intj's don't do that. Ok... I'm done. Sorry for this essey😅
Well I enjoyed your essay very much. Also yes that would make you appear to be very similar. Both introverts, both IxxJ types, both Ni Doms, both NT types, both Se inferior. Very similar indeed with some complimentary differences ~ Nathan
Glad to see you were able to accept the truth on your type... You don't really see that often with looping (jumper) INFJ's... They are almost always too adamant in telling themselves they are "organic" thinking types (INTJ/INTP)... Seems like a real.tough pill to swallow for them so nice to see you've been able to come to terms with it...
I prioritize harmony now more than I used to because I found out the hard way (over and over and over) that coldly disagreeing with people in typical INTJ fashion is an extremely unlikeable quality. I don’t need many friends but I admit, I also don’t want people to hate me either.
For years I'd get INTJ in various test results but something didn't quite match. Now I started getting INFJ result as well. In recent years I became spiritual, way more self accepting and healed myself of childhood traumas. I think my INTJ personality was a defense mechanism while the INFJ is actually my true nature as a way more relaxed, confident and empathetic person. I wonder if others have noticed a similar transition - from Thinking to Feeling - following a healing process.
This helped but honestly made me more confused. I heavily relate to a lot of aspects of both ends so you may be right most of us are towards the middle. That may be because of our overall motivation towards self improvement so we try to make ourselves as well rounded as possible.
Your video was quite balanced and covered quite apt points. Many a times I've noticed typical INTJs on youtube who just say that INTJs remove feelings completely out of their decisions, etc which sounds totally illogical; In fact, that can be a source of inspiration for many of the activities that INTJs undertake.
My husband and I are intjs and i love the mugs! I will check them out! Thank you for your videos. It helps us describe ourselves better when others wonder why we're so different.
Feel like I bounce between both, I’m good at relating with people and trying to help them solve their issues but I’m not good at showing other people my own emotions and issues. I don’t talK to many people, but the people I do talk to I’m very close with. I appear cold hearted at first but open up to certain people rather quickly. In general I often feel left out and foreign when comparing myself to others
I'm definitely an INFJ, but every time I watch something like this I am left feeling like I am both INFJ and INTJ depending on my environment. INTJ when alone and able to allocate time to what makes me happy, INFJ when there are others around demanding my time/insight/guidance.... I imagine this would be similar for many other INFJs that manage to get their own time away from the rat-race and everyone else's (usually confused) feelings.
The greatest thing about this time in self isolation? I can be alone for ages without having to feel unsocial and can still satisfy my Fe function by analysing characters in books, TV shows and on social media.
An INTJ *ALWAYS* knows we’re INTJ, our whole lives before the point of us figuring out we are INTJ is a series of saying “what’s wrong with people or why are people so stupid or why won’t people just leave me alone?” So we search for the answer like Mulder & Scully until we come against the *hard truth* that we are in fact the X-File as we suspected (in that we actually use logic to make decisions and live in the world). I was a Human Resources manager, I know it seems impossible for an INTJ female. And it was hard to connect to people in the way they ‘thought’ they wanted. I think my poise and perfect systems in terms of managing people freaked them out. But oddly when I left and when I see those old employees in the world today they *always* say how at the time they didn’t ‘like’ me but now that they have worked with other idiot managers they realized I was actually one of the best managers they’ve ever had and miss working with me. I think people get *freaked out* by just how efficient and effective INTJs can be because most people can’t do both with the same precision so it makes us kind of unlikeable in the moment, but once people have a chance to step away and see how their world was sooooo much better precisely as a result of our INTJness they realize how great we are to have around even if we don’t like to talk about your dog or the weather 🙄 So in truth you’re correct Nathan: if it *works* better people *will feel better* they just don’t know that’s what the real problem is 🤷🏽♀️....people 😔
This reminds me how I once asked a friend who broke up with her boyfriend to tell me how sad she felt on a scale of 1-10. I don't think that question was appreciated lol. But I only wanted to know so I could decide how sorry it made sense to feel and express the accompanying amount of comforting sympathy- and it was real sympathy, but I can't feel very sorry for someone if they say they're fine. I was trying to be a good friend but it probably came across as robotic. But I have a feeling many INTJs would understand this perfectly.
@@17x71 Originally I shared this sentiment for years which is why I said I was an INFJ but after spending time with other INFJ and INTJ I found I relate more to INTJ but thought it was just because I had Ti. The meme's create a disconnect and I didn't think I can be an asshole however they saw no Fe and everyday I'm trying to analyze the most effective means so they suggested that I'm more likely an INTJ. In most cases you're right but it's not 100%, I don't see typology as something to brag about and many people base it off the archtypes rather than being based off the functions but though I don't mind dealing with people I'm relatively incompetent unless I am close to somebody and/or safe under the confides of the internet. Essentially to me I see most people as ignorant but that is more based off misinformation and laziness than actually being incapable (though I'm sure there are many who are) so while I may casually tease them about it I don't attack them based on that. As I said because of the meme nature of the INTJ archtype and growing up the way I did people gave me a false impression but I never saw myself as a "nice guy" (which I think is common among male Fe users) but rather pointless conflict based on narcissistic tendencies was not an effective way of dealing with others. In person I am incompetent and trip up over my words even after practice which sounds like Fe Polr to me, where as I like to have things set up and have methods to my madness which suggests I'm NOT Te Polr.
@@LordOfTheWhores Another case that proves my point... I have heard this same thing a million times from you INFJ's. Nothing you presented was not relatable to INFJ... None of it... There is literally no room for confusion for an INTJ to think they are INFJ. The other way around is not the same. There is plenty of room for INFJ's to confuse themselves as INTJ's...
@@LordOfTheWhores like you are saying "after spending time with some other INFJ's" you notice difference... Other INFJ's don't have to be exactly like you... Adolf Hitler is INFJ ffs. Nothing like the typical portrayal of one...
Thank you, your comparison videos are very helpful! Even though their function stacks are very different, I would be curious to see an INFJ vs INTP video.
Yea I’m still intj just because I can lurk in my lair 😂 but good gravy, it does get a little lonely, I look up to infjs and wish I had some INFJ friends in real life. Team Ni!! Great video Nathan!!
I have never heard a young person say good gravy other than me when I was younger. Lol made me chuckle, my grandmother said that all the time. #TeamGoodGravy
Corduroy and Maple hey Melanie, I hope your family and yourself are well and healthy during this crisis! And it’s a great phrase team Good gravy all the way!hehe
I hope this comment gets through to you, as I would really like to hear your opinion. So here is the gist of it. Being an INFJ that probably had some traumatic experiences during childhood (nothing too serious and I might be over-dramatizing here), I concluded that hard facts / logic would be a better base to work from. Basically I've consciously jumped to what you describe as the characteristics of the INTJ, while at the same time understanding this was not my innate inclination. With no doubt, it was a defense mechanism, to protect myself from getting emotionally injured. I think this shift mostly happened out of chance, due to some events and as there was no similar person (at least to my thinking) in my environment, I constantly doubted things that otherwise I would not. Therefore some youth problems were not properly addressed as I had to work completely on my own. As I grew older I had a weird deconstruction of what the self is in contrast to the collective (I vs we). Rather than differentiating and putting them on opposite sides, I've figured they are better being on the same. I can't list the number of times I had a breakthrough into understanding others immediately after understanding a flaw in myself (and vice versa). In MBTI words, my Fe was drastically enhanced through self reflection and understanding. I may be wrong as I am not an expert in MBTI, but that does seem like a weird point of convergence between Fi and Fe. From what I've read, Fi is a blind spot for most INFJ and I can certainly understand why. I doubt however it is for me. I still subconsciously put it on the "back of my head", but I certainly know now how I can reach out to it. Main reason is because I had to at some points in my life. In that regard I do not completely agree with this split of functions as most people would say, or, I'd wager that the shadow functions are not just meant to be detrimental, but surprisingly beneficiary and tied (on certain aspects) with their counterparts (like little bridges to cross over). The messiah complex, additionally, was severely alleviated by putting myself on the same level as I would put other people. The hard logic also alleviated the dizziness of emotionally sensing people around me and would work as a compass on how to treat and judge those emotions, for the benefit of everyone involved. In a way, those two things, logic and emotions seem to have fused in my head, something I occasionally considered a blatant bias on my part to avoid the harsh conclusions. It is obvious however that I had a very strong affinity in understanding others from a very young age. In the end, I wouldn't desire reality to step over people's desires, but I also don't want desires to step over reality. Although it is considered that INFJs will pick the first and INTJs the second, I think they would be equally wrong if they were to adamantly stick on one option. Human desires can be simply stupid at times, but also reality is not the constant factor thinkers make it out to be. If we were to ask for example, whose reality? Mine? Yours, or the worlds? As those 3 potentially differ and if reality is supposed to be unchanging, then certainly two must be awfully mistaken. But is that really the case? Two approaches might differ, but also work at the same time. On the other hand, can we not argue that this pursuit of the "unchanging" reality has been a bust since the dawn of time? How many people sought out this hard, unaltering truth causing millions of deaths to its name? Nazis had a reality set-in-stone. So did the Soviets and so many others who could not see the possibility of being wrong themselves. How many lives, how much better would our life be if people realized they might be wrong? How many times has the truth/reality of man been proven wrong? Constantly. Isn't it a hypocrisy on behalf of the thinker, albeit subconscious, to disregard his numbness to emotions as inferior, only to raise as superior something that, in the end, can be equally fragile? Some months ago I've noticed this quote from Carl Jung: "In true wisdom, there is no conflict between emotion and logic". In my honest opinion, MBTI is just a set of different starts. Random events (and potentially a predisposition) sent you over to one side, but that should not mean you are only meant to be this. I do believe that this struggle for "fusion", for development is what we are meant to fight for in the end.
As an INTJ, I agree with the Te-Fi explanation a lot. I am very helpful but when I do it I think "I care about someone so I want to help them" less frequently than "if I don't do something it would be a juicy trainwreck"
So I am INTJ and this describes me and my best friend. I am an alien in social situations and he is a social genius. Thank you for this, I was quite literally telling him about this extroverted side he had and he recalled being given an INFJ result but was unsure. Him and I perceive identically but I could not figure out what made him have this extroverted side that I didn’t possess. He is charming and I have charisma and it is an alchemical balance. Honestly, it’s so nice to have this explanation.
intjs have sort of a median social function ability and don't go to extremes socially. infjs have a wider bandwidth and will isolate for a time period, then be the hit of party...then you won't see them again for six months. btw- this video is probably nt overload for anyone who's not an nt type. lol
You are amazing at explaining things and making them very clear. At first I had a hard time listening to you maybe because you speak so fast but now I really like the way you organize your talk and how you explain the whole thing in a video that is not even 15 minutes long. *I like things short, concise and clear✨*
INTJ here. That was a really neat video. One of my best friends (of which there are few, of course) is an INFJ. Your description of the two types was quite insightful and brought to light why he’s such a good friend. I’m sure you probably get a lot of requests on here and don’t have time to humor them all, but I was wondering if you’ve done a video comparing INTJs and ESTJs. In particular, I’m curious to learn the dynamics of a relationship between the two be it a romantic relationship, friendship, or a relationship in a work setting.
That's a type comparison I haven't thought about doing before, thats an unusual one! I'll have to have a think about that one! Glad you liked the video ~ Nathan
INFJ.Never go to a Te strong with feels. My experience is I’m not looking for solution but understanding and acceptance and maybe some good humor. Te strong listens, criticizes and prescribes solutions, leaving me cold, irritated and well, hollow. Hey what does Te blind look like(pun intended)? I wonder if it is the critical parent(6th function) that can send us into the infernal grip?
P T funny...the one where I said that for some people to sort out their feelings, it helps to express them. That talking can get one to organize their mind, their heart. But of course one should do this with a SAFE person, a person who can just listen and may have a good sense of humor like my ENFP friend. And when a persons mind/heart is clear they are better equipped to do things like the dishes or a divorce. And then you said Eeew and just went on an abusive attack on person you know nothing about? Yeah I figured it didn’t matter my comment. You shine all by yourself. PS I’m not your narcissist. Im not your anything. And I have no idea what that relates to me, men who tell women to smile. You clearly have been hurt by someone and you are projecting.
And since you did bring up how ISFPs can mistake themselves for INTJ (I don’t think an INTJ mistakes ourselves for ISFPs to be honest with their lead Fi) I’d love to see a video on that. I do think ISFPs mistake their Fi lead for Ni often and that’s how they get INTJ but when you actually look at how we use our functions we couldn’t be more different in how we operate within the world. There is a saying I saw that said ISFPs: think “don’t tell me what to do” v INTJs: “I do what I want”. If you really look closely there’s a Big difference between the 2 in how we see our agency in the world. ISFPs are defensive whereas INTJs are offensive.
that last point is very interesting and i can see the truth in it. As an Fi user i get so defensive when told what to do i sometimes do the opposite of what i want just to avoid listening to someone elses orders. Sounds silly i know
I totally relate to the part of, looking to find a common ground of agreement, even at my own expense. Awhile back, that changed ... I actually had a reality check when I was in conversation with someone and MY perspective was to do what was right ... a term to be negotiated ... and eventually agreed upon .. Where I was told, he was concerned of HIS interests & what was best for him. I still remember saying to him, I hear you ... but if that's the perspective we're coming at this with, who's looking out for what's best for me? And in that moment, I realized I was the only one that would. I realized then, that I needed to change and start thinking of what are my interests in things & not so concerned about MY presentation of what "appears" to be fair.
INTJ here. Your point regarding the fact that INTJs can be emotional and INFJs can be rational is quite accurate indeed. As an INTJ, it has taken me quite a lot of effort to actually understand non rational human behaviour in a non logical manner. I have become good at it, but it is not still something that comes naturally to me.
okay, I am laughing way too much at this one. guess I'll buy a mug. seriously though, you are obviously well acquainted with this theory and talented at explaining it to viewers. tks
@@lovewho since you asked...as an INTP it would be great if there were a way to depict the mind rather than the brain on a mug. I have no suggestions on that, by the way. : ) Maybe I'll just buy one of the FP mugs instead, since I prefer the design.
Wow thats awesome to hear!! I love it when we can help people narrow down their types. We have a lot of INFJ videos on this channel so feel free to check them out ~ Nathan
7:13 I resonate with that, and I've never heard it as articulately worded as it was here. I never noticed how I often think that whatever arrangements work best are what will ultimately satisfy people's desires for emotional fulfillment. Usually, most other people just say "oh, Te-users are OBJECTIVE!" but never explain how or why, especially since as humans everyone is far from being 100% rational. "For people, but doesn't need people." I like the way that's phrased.
"especially as humans no one can be 100% rational". You're PolR Te is blinding you from seeing the truth... You INFJ's always project your own downfalls and incapabilities on all of humanity... high Te users are literally objective thinkers...
@@17x71 If you actually read what I wrote, I was praising him for his explanation. I stand by what I said; no one can be 100% rational. To believe one can be completely objective is a delusion, a farce. We only see the shadow not the object. At any rate, I suggest you spend more time reflecting and less time assuming things about people you don't know on the internet. If my comment truly annoys you and makes you jump to an immediate conclusion as to my type (which is conveniently a type you seem to despise or think inferior), you have a lot of growing to do.
@@DemonixGamer Demonix Realms Demonix Realms Demonix Realms if you actually read what I wrote you'd see I denied nothing about your praise and was specifically focusing on the objectivity part... It is hilarious how you suggest I spend less time assuming as you literally just made a boatload of assumptions in that very same paragraph... I also find it amusing that you are objectively declaring that to believe you can be completely objective to be a delusiom and farce.... The hypocrisy is unreal... My point is very simple. Speak for yourself. Just because you can't see the object doesn't mean others have to share your same downfall... Finally, I am not assuming you're type. You are literally directly displaying the epitome of PolR Te in everyway right now... Like that phrase you just made fight there "you only see the shadow not the object" is literally directly PolR Te. The PolR function is the blind spot. Te literally looks at the object. The fact that you have a hard time seeing it, and only see the shadow is the blind function literally.... That is IxFJ...
@@17x71 The shadow metaphor for objectivity was actually an allusion to Plato's 'Allegory of the Cave' that obviously went over your head, so... Whatever. It IS hilarious though how pompous you sound, meanwhile the true irony here is that every word you write about me reveals more about you than I. Your unprovoked and uninspired whingings to a simple comment have shown you're obviously the type who loves the sound of their own voice. Have fun chatting with yourself. I don't care to speak with arrogant people.
I am in my "Lair", that's why when COVID happened it's like the situation is normal for me, favorable even, I've already worked in NYC for my first job, I did my part, I did not only give them my marketing plans but also I gave them business plans, but they let me go before the virus situation got worse. So I'm just day trading now, stress-free (from people), and everything is based on my decisions and my visions. Hehe. Work isn't really stressful, just optimize the system to make it efficient and you're done, people make work stressful. I'm pretty sure everybody can agree with that to some degree. I love this vid, I also got to know what's the main differences between me and my ex-girlfriend.
Hey, the mugs are beautiful. I especially love the ENTP and INFP. I have some feedback for the INFJ mugs. Both of them are kind of jokey options, I personally would prefer something more serious/symbolic/inspiring. ^_^ I hope that helps.
Ahhh... that’s the hard part! I like how the ENTP mug signifies their brilliant ideas and mind... so something that symbolizes the INFJ’s more inspiring qualities... maybe something to do with perception (3rd eye, INFJ stare type thing). But at the same time when I’m drinking tea I’d want something that didn’t remind me of my overactive mind and would be more on the grounding side - connection to nature/the earth/other people. 🤷🏻♀️😅
@@baileyab47 The third eye is a good idea :) If you want something that invoques nature. Maybe the moon? It has a similar symbolism as the third eye (being able to see secrets).
I feel I am both INFJ and INTJ depending on situations or experiences. I also get both results when doing the test a few times. Like there are 2 sides to me.....I want to help others to see where they should be going but if they don't follow that advice and continue to complain then I have no more patience for them and shut down, usually just nodding and smiling. I also have a high need to come across as individual and am often told that I come across cold and detached unless I have let someone into my world.... which is a very small # I guess this makes me a jumper..... and I do value highly my 1st and 3rd functions more than my second.... thank you for explaining that savior/demon idea 🙏
The quiz on Human Metrics that gives you the percentage on each of your functions actually helped me understand this and my placement a lot better. I’m an INTJ but my Thinking over Feeling preference is only 3%, which is why a few times recently I had been getting INFJ. Makes perfect sense.
Te-practice oriented Ti-theory oriented Fe-shared preferences Fi-personal preferences As a very logical INFJ(even though I’m not deep into MBTI so I may seem illogical when talking about MBTI, and I’m not good at English), I find myself even more Fe than those more emotional INFJs, since I’m highly emotionally suppressive, and that suppression can of course only towards my Fi. So I found it very amusing when Patrick Bateman said he “has no emotions except for greed and disgust”, because that’s all emotions one can get, that’s what emotions essentially are. If you are truly emotionless you will be Buddha. Empathy/Manipulation is not an emotion but a simulation, and this power only fully releases when you are completely emotionless of your own-you need to fully empty your own heart to fully simulate others’ hearts in all possibilities(which means, flawlessly). So extroverted functions will eventually become other people’s functions instead of your own, it’s a part of your brain but it’s not yours. It’s a UI for other people to interact with your mind, having that selfless(literally) part in our brain makes us social animals. Being social animals means we can’t be complete individuals, some degree of hivemind is not sci-fi it’s already here in our extroverted functions. So choosing between Ti-Fe and Fi-Te is actually choosing either to keep your own T and throw out your F or to keep your own F and throw out your T. It’s a big difference between Ti and Fi, which one is your true heart and which one are you willing to sacrifice.
LOVE YOUR MUGS BY THE WAY!! I AM DEFINITELY BUYING 2, FOR ME AND MY BOYFRIEND!! (i wish one of us was an INFJ cuz' this unicorn mug is killing it... pun intended)
Am definitely INFJ ... 1.Friends get surprised when I tell them am introverted.. they can’t even believe.. 2. self focused on other people,yes! 3. People really think of me as a counsellor..like I get the impression that I give great advices. Etc
Clear! Most clear things explanation ! INFJ here! I sometimes just feel too connected with ppl I’m tired. It’s nice that INTJ value improvements in physical system I admire that cos I am weak at this
INTJ here, I can see you work hard on improving yourself and delivering your message as harmoniously as you can. Strong balance of NE-SI and TI-FE. I subscribed. Also your girlfriend is ESFP?? that’s a powerful combo
I have learnt to balance the thinking/feeling binary, which suggests that I am aging gracefully 😌. Once a girl told me, 'You are so funny.' But I don't have the courage to ring her up now🙄🙄🙄.
Always thought nah I’m definitely not an INTJ until this... now I’m thinking maybe?! Possibly an INTJ who was too uncomfortable with the INTJ-ness so started acting softer and more wishy-washy. It’s not very acceptable to be an INTJ as a female. But then part of me thinks would an INTJ actually give two hoots what anybody thinks and try to accommodate their wants??? Back to the drawing board 😂😓
My mom did the test and INFJ was the result, just like me. I KNOW I'm a INFJ and sth didn't seem to make sense because of some big differences between us. Now I'm 100% sure mom is an INTJ. Thank you!!! ❤❤❤😘😘😘
That point about socionics you made is true I am INTJ and I am an artist and I try hard to be good with people, I’ve even done door to door sales and worked in a clothing store. My INFJ friend is almost done writing his book and likes programming, Math, and physics 😝
...and I love, LOVE INTJs. And enfps. I love them too. But I have never found INTJs to be cold. ISTJ, yes. But not INTJs. They never come off this way to me. They come across as if they know exactly what they are doing at every moment of their existence. They make every single action or inaction seem so intentional. If they don’t want to talk to you, they mean it. They are actually the most easy to relate to, for me. I can be anything I want around them because they are so internally driven, I can never flatter myself enough to think they even give a damn about me, in terms of whether I please them, or let them down, it’s the best. I can just be me, even the weird parts. And it’s fun to get to know them. They are very authentic to the core. No bullshit. -infj
Thanks for bringing up the jumper idea. I was a highly Introverted INFJ as a child preferring Ti. It was because I felt unsafe in my environment (Detroit) so though Fe was important to me in the sense of avoiding conflict and staying safe it was as you say treated as a daemon function. I knew this myself but it's great to hear that this model has been examined by others and is seen as valid by some.
We now have 4 INFJ Mugs!!! You INFJs are taskmasters... one day we will design a mug that lives up to your standards... until then... here's what we've got - teespring.com/stores/love-who
~ Nathan
I hate unicorns and all and everything they currently symbolize, politicize, whatever. How 'bout a centaur instead. I like those ice bergs.......hmmmmmmm
@@scrillion6 "Centaur" - ok thats kind of cool tbh ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Can you re-upload Things that drive me crazy about ENTP, I can't find it, It was my favorite video
Thanks, from an entp
Pain in the collective arse is how I describe my fellow INFJs....
Why an iceberg though ?
As an INTJ, I can be social, but it's forced and not natural for me. I need to prepare myself to do it and I get tired after. If I'm not well in some way, the last thing that I want is to socialize.
You sound perfectly “well” to me, friend. -infj
Yes😑
Yes!
Can relate
INTJ here, for me social occasions are like rhythm games, I can play well with I practice and I would gain some sort of satisfaction if things don't go awkward. But I reserve the right to quit the game any moment I see fit.
INTJ cheering someone else up: change the direction they are facing in order to set them up for happiness in the long run, and then throw pebbles at them to get them to go in that direction
Haha!!! Wish I'd thought of this line before the video ~ Nathan
I think it's appropriate that INTJs like myself learn to describe ourselves well, but I appreciate the work that you guys do
Obscure Priscillatopia Oh that’s such an accurate way to put it. Good on you for thinking of that
“Throwing pebbles” is why everyone hates me 😭😥
Yes, these are the intjs. -intp
I'm an INFJ and friends always think I'm an extrovert.. But I'm really not
I've noticed that trend with INFJs, they're so good at the social game despite finding it draining eventually like all introverts do ~ Nathan
Some people drain me and some people do not. I always need some time alone to recharge
Welcome to the club. Lol
I still have people who tell me how extroverted I am, and they refuse to entertain the idea that my extraversion is an acquired skill, and my extreme introversion is a very fixed trait.
bruh legit my parents think I am an extrovert and when I am alone (recharging) they think I am sad. Idek how to explain to them xD
factss
I'm an INFJ married to an INTJ. As a (very) general rule, I would seem more approachable and more ready to listen to people. However, my INTJ husband can flip a switch when he decides to be friendly and I may be secretly judging people for being illogical, even as I am listening with empathy and affirming them. Sometimes we INFJs are jerks.
@blah blah Hey blah blah, I don't know if it is linked to our self-worth so much as it is to our desire for accuracy and truth: not just that we are right, but that everyone should be. I know I hate for anyone to be wrong! :-D As for how we handle correction when we are wrong, that may be a little more of an individual thing. It's kind of hard to judge the invisible thought processes of an introverted thinker and INFJs do not have the same facility with expressing our thinking accurately as say, an INTP. That could make us lash out emotionally, but beneath the surface our thinking will go into overdrive, looking for what we may have wrong and we will course-correct. An INFj is more likely to be annoyed if you correct them in an insensitive way. I know my INTJ husband is probably amused by my focus on accuracy, while he is more about expedience.
The point of understanding the different types is not to rail at them, it's to recognize the differences and work with them. I'm not interested in a heated argument with a stranger. Good day to you.
i am a jerk infj
"I may be secretly judging people for being illogical, even as I am listening with empathy and affirming them"
Lol yeah! This is a total jerk move. I hate when people do this and when I spot they've done it, I can literally never look at them the same way again. If you feel one way, why would you tell me the opposite?
-INTJ
@@kindauncool To be fair, it's something that builds up over time. If a person values something, I would be compelled to value it too, but many times that exact same person doesn't even try to reciprocate, making it a one-way street. After being emotional dumbs for an extended while, anyone would start to care less about what others do and treat them just as they would do us.
So sorry, kinda, not much though.
-INFJ
I only look like an extrovert because I'm very friendly and will engage in long conversation, but typically I'd rather just be alone, lol.
This is a very INFJ comment ~ Nathan
@@lovewho 😂
Me, too!
Same sometimes I have a lot to say ppl think I’m a chatter box but I’m pretty introvert tbh
Same Lmao
I’m an intj who wants to be a counselor. My cold logic helps detach others from their emotions to solve their problems , or so I think
Solving peoples problems is still a huge part of making someone feel better about their life, it's just sometimes you have to be in the... 'I'm not judging you, just listening' role ~ Nathan
I have always found cold truth to be very comforting and it is great to know that the person you talk to will always be honest like Intjs most times are. You can also offer great Ni perspectives and help people look at things from a different angle!
I am an INTJ, I can see through the cause of people's problems and know how they can solve it, but don't care enough to go through a conversation to solve their problem. And sometimes if I go out of my way to tell them what's wrong and how to solve it, if they take offense and refuse to see logic, I get annoyed and get reminded why I don't care to solve their problems usually.
Yes! I had a counselor like that and she did help me a lot. At that point I craved detachment from strong feelings I was dealing with. Also I had a genius of an INTJ boss who used to give me little lectures about his business when he had free time. It was like going to college - I was mentally scribbling notes and still use his ideas to this day.
INTJ- majored in psychology but became a teacher.
even the fact that i'm doubting myself to be an infj, proves that i'm an infj 🤷♂️
Flaimbot Indeed:’)
Omg yes😭🤧
Yep definitely INFJ, however, just a very introverted INFJ, because I have no friends, but I'm still empathetic to a lot of people and I will listen to them, but no one wants to listen to me...
INFJ here. I had friends growing up but it never seemed like they valued the bond like I did, and I just got criticized and used. So after they one by one became distant and moved on, I moved away and changed a lot. I don't do the friend thing anymore, that hurt too much.
I've come back and I think I'm actually an intj instead of an infj. I'm still very confused, but with all the things I picked up on about my personality, I think I lean more towards intj than infj.
As a fellow INFJ lemme listen to you😉
intj, yes i could be mistaken for an extrovert because i can emulate it. I can't connect very well with people (i can feel love only for a couple people), but I can make It look like i care for people even when I don't, so I can act social when I want to. I do value my Fi a lot and it's almost like I use my Te to satisfy it.
Thanks, now I know I'm not the only one.
@@no_special_person yeah no in the end i was a mistyped esfp lol... i learned that intjs clearly look like introverts even when they try to be social, but they can be really warm and caring. their Te is on another level tho
@@talkshh are you an esfp? I'm Abit confused.
Also I want to clarify:
My experience with this extends to 1 on 1 interactions, I'm actually Abit off from your comment.
But ideally I will work myself up to a point where I can do what you do!
@@no_special_person yes i'm an esfp, that's why social emulation (of Fe) comes easy to me.
intjs tho, you can read it on their face if they don't give a fuck about the social situation they're in, and also if they're enjoying it. they're much more honest in that sense imho. they won't force themselves.
@@talkshh I often don't want to appear an asshole, so if I know someone is having troubles, I'll ask about things but I generally won't think about it when I'm not with that person. Much bigger issues in the world
The intj in me is revelling in this isolation period. I wish every day was just me in a room by myself. It's just unfortunate that people are dying for me to finally achieve my dream
Wow same. I live with my entirely Extroverted family so I went the extra mile and switched my entire sleep cycle so that I only have to interact with them for a short 4-5 hours in the evening. My mum cannot understand how I've been holed up in my room for 2 weeks without wanting to run outside or meet people.
Yes
Yes! Although, being married, I feel like I'm in a Twilight Zone episode. "You're in isolation with all the time to indulge into your desired hobbies! But it's with your extroverted husband who is now stuck at home with you with no other social outlet."
So how your isolation is going on?
@@hakimdiwan5101 i live in Australia so it ended a few months ago. I'm back to work 9-5 again...
I am an INFJ who wishes to live a quiet life.
same here... same here
Brace for the JoJotards
Same here
~INTJ
I’m an INFJ, my mom thinks I’m extroverted and always want to be with other people, one time she forced me to go to a party, I came back and fell asleep in three minutes and didn’t leave the house for the entire weekend
Is your mom an extrovert? Maybe she's projecting, assuming that you're an extrovert because she is, or because she wants you to be.
Now, usually, an INTJ wouldn't mistake himself for an INFJ, we are just too rational to consider the possibility of an Fe in our functions.
I understand that, in moments when an INFJ is in "logical mode" (which they do frequently) may mistake themselves as INTJs.
Also, I've always found that INFJs has some sort of ... aura around them, a feeling of zenitude that you can't find elsewhere. People automatically like them (in general), which is the polar opposite of the energy emitted by an INTJ.
Also, to the external eyes, a friendship with an INTJ can be, and I quote some people I lost, "exhausting". I let you interpret this as you like in the comments if you want.
Nevertheless, I know 2 INFJs girls, they are great friends and I'd like to have more of them (I'm describing them like Pokemons but you get my point)
Exhausting due to the need to analyze everything? Sometimes I hold back because I'm afraid I will exhaust people in that regard.
@@andreagreenwood93 Not necessarily, more like trying to optimize everything, including people. Being too critical, too blunt, valuing truth over feelings ...
@@omdam9 Ah I see how that could be some INTJs. Personally I don't interfere with other people much and I don't want them to interfere with me. But the overanalytical part can be divisive, and I've been told stop worrying so much about what "might" happen. But how can I, I want there to be a plan for everything.
@@andreagreenwood93 I'm only talking about the very few people in your close circle. That's the type of friend I am I want those that I care about to constantly improve.
I leave futur possibilities to myself, there is no use trying to explain to someone with no Ni about possible outcomes, I just act unsurprised and undisturbed when shit hits the fan and hope that maybe someday they will be like "do you think this will work" before failing spectacularly.
I do agree that the more common mistype will certainly be INFJs thinking they're INTJs! ~ Nathan
Day 6 of quarantine: I'm on my 7th bowl of frosties and I'm starting to hallucinate what the rest of your set looks like.
Haha! Yea me and you are clearly loving the excuse to self isolate. Also you have a very good insight in to what the rest of my set looks like since it's our shared lair ~ Nathan
@@lovewho absolutely
Loving this time of isolation 🙄🙄 strange ppl
😜😃
Lu
How many bowls of cereal have you eaten after a year? 😂
(INFP) I'm very fortunate as I've had relationships with both an INTJ and an INFJ. The video is a great description of both types. As the unpaid therapists of the world, INFP's can get an intimate understanding of those in their lives.
INTJ - She would tell me how she felt every emotion people are supposed to feel but couldn't formulate a way to effectively express them. Frustrated at times, she would express grievances to why she couldn't do so and through her expressions would do the very thing she felt she couldn't. My emotional way of looking and describing things things helped her feel acknowledged and "gave her world depth".
INFJ - Her presence alone was soothing. I would listen to her future forward way of thinking out loud and in doing so she would understand what and how to structure the things she was going to do next. I could tell she felt that someone was listening to her for a change as she became more relaxed with each passing plan and thought.
For either one, I could do this tirelessly. When someone benefits from your time and makes progress in their lives as a result, that is an investment paid back with interest.
(What can I say. INFP's are hopeless romantics after all)
Papa Romeo INFP , my favorite type . The only type that has the capacity to listen and understand.
As an infj, this is exactly what happens with my infp roommate. My life has become better since she moved in. I feel heard ☺️and she tells me I have a warmth that makes her wanna share things with me. Something that is hard for her
@@jays7259 I think you are being unfair with this statement.
From my experience INFPs don't always "listen and understand", quite the contrary for some of them. As an example (among other) my mother, an INFP, is extremely judgmental and any debate/discussion is impossible if she disagrees. She cares about me a lot. But she can be very harsh if I don't make the decisions SHE thinks are the best according to her lifestyle, values, opinions, etc. And has gaslighted me more than once. The worst is that while she is aware of not being perfect, whenever I gather the courage to tell her what's problematic and hurtful about her behavior she refuses to acknowledge it, therefore it will ever change. And then she is surprised that I'm not open...
I think a lot of types, not just INFJ, INFP or ENFJ, have the potential to listen and understand granted they are mature, healthy and open-minded enough.
LOLLLLL I'm INFP married to a social INTJ. This had me laughing. "If a person is feeling bad, it's because they have a problem & when that problem is solved, they'll feel good." 😂😂😂 So true. Like if I'm watching something sad and I'll cry and feel so deeply. He'll be like, "Why do you keep making yourself cry? Stop watching those sad things & you won't cry." 😂😂😂😂 lmfao he thinks crying is a bad thing.
Haha!! Also "he thinks crying is a bad thing" - this is the most INFP thing I've heard for a long while ~ Nathan
@@lovewho hahah I'm cracking up. Crying is good for you. You should try it. :'D
This moment you know how deep your are an INTJ. This part strike me right in the middle. And i knew i was different loooonng time ago.
Oh romantic comedies how I have always hated your over the top feelings.
@monsune lol, I'm an intj and I have told my husband, if you don't want to feel bad then don't expose yourself to those things,then he feels ok🥰🥰🥰 I just don't want him to feel any sorrow or sadness. Be safe you guys ♥️♥️♥️♥️
As an INFJ, when I go to make a program, I always think about the human component and how to make something as user friendly as possible. Making it is one thing, making it intuitive and easy to understand is an entirely different beast.
The Vegan Villainess Me to. Because I don’t want other people to have to struggle to figure out difficult things. I figure it out for them, and make it simple for those who come after me to use. I think there is overlap with INTJ’s here. We build similar systems, but from slightly different motivations.
@@davidkepke1435 I also aim for this. For many programmers, the whole point is to make a feature available. But I think it's important to keep in mind that programs which are dead easy are very likable and likable means adoption.
kaluq I agree 1000%.
I used to be an INFJ vegan.... until I realised I was the bad guy and dropped the veganism. Now I feel better for it. Here's a piece of advice you didn't ask for...: research why I would do this whilst feeling extremely confident that I am achieving; for the environment, against cruelty to animals and especially for my health.... unlike when I was vegan.
@@Rev_GC you can't say you are against cruelty to animals and not be vegan
I'm an INTJ. I can manage to be outgoing in order to achieve something, I can emulate it. But I usually assume all people need to solve their problems in order to feel better and this makes me come across as cold, although I mean no harm. I'm not an empath to people's feelings at all, and this caused me to lose a lot of "friendships" because I just couldn't understand why someone would want a hug and kind words instead of a solution. I can't comfort people for the life of me lol.
I relate to that quite a lot. Yesterday, my infp friend was rambling about some stuff and I just kept giving out solutions without any empathy lmao
Whenever I take Myers Briggs tests I either get INFJ or INTJ with an almost 50/50 spilt between the F and T functions. Depending on the situation will depend whether I lean towards one or the other, but either way it seems to be a sucky place to be in terms of any decent level of social contact and life progress.
I have the same issue. It's a uncomfortable place to function from. Generally, my thoughts are more akin to INTJ, but my desire for peace overrides & I resort to the 'polite' behavior of an INFJ. There's a lot that never gets said.
@@LL-muddy1 I've definitely improved over the years to the point where I can be quite assertive, but in a considerate way which doesn't ruffle too many feathers. It's definitely about picking your battles and learning the best strategies to get through it without causing too much fuss. It's not been smooth sailing, but it's definitely better than it was.
This is me! It's always either an infj with like Feeling 52% Thinking 48% or an INTJ with the reverse %
I'm in the same place... It's too confusing.
I have taken a multitude of cognitive functions tests too, which leads to the same place.....
If you’re still unsure after watching this video, you’re definitely an INFJ. I can’t imagine an INTJ not getting a complete clarity from these contrasts. They’re day and night from the INTJ perspective.
Yep. Definitely INTJ. Zero friends and incapacity to relate/communicate to anyone except INTP's/other INTJ's lol. Also, this pandemic has highlighted that my Type-A overprepared Doomsday Prepper lifestyle was highly rewarding and worthwhile investment. I'm ecstatic and hyped in a pandemoniam/chaos situation.
Btw, your eyebrows are LEGENDARY.
Same here. I'm predicting bank runs soon. The smarter ones got their $ out.
I'm INFJ but I'm a prepper too.
The 20 years I've been saving up for a cheap house are finally paying off
Agree!!!
I've been told that my eyebrows are ENTJs ~ Nathan
Infj is close to me, but i still doubt my infjsness
Infj’s are known for not knowing their true selves or being confused by who they are, so you probably are!
niro that makes you even more of an infj
It never ends~
Lol, that's literally what ever INFJ says dude lol @niro. You're definitely INFJ. No INTJ is literally ever confused or somewhat relate to the INFJ type at all. It is 100% always the INFJ'S with this dilemma. They develop tert thinking and think they are thinkkers...
Same
I am INFJ and my husband is INTJ. I loved this video. Understanding the difference in the Fe and Te of these types really has helped our communication bc other than that, I feel we think very similarly otherwise. Also "lurking in their own lair, INTJs can work in benefit of people of but working in the process doesn't need (or want) other people around" made me laugh out loud. This is so apt for him :)
This video made me clear why I am not an INFJ as I used to believe. Thanks for explaining the meaning of second ('responsible') cognitive function, how people experience us. In my case it's 'Te' rather than 'Fe'. It was a great and informative video. I feel shocked. I'm reprocessing my whole life since I watched this episode last night. My "dis-functionalities" and my strong desire to believe in Utopia make totally sense now.
Glad it was helpful! ~ Nathan
Your first function is your inner Hero, it defines you.
Second, your inner parent, it makes responsible choices.
Third, your inner child, it motivates you.
INTJs have Ni hero, Te parent, and Fi child.
We have a heroic sense of Ambition, we use Pragmatism to make responsible choices, and Morality is what motivates us.
INFJs have Ni hero, Fe parent, and Ti child.
They have heroic Ambition, use Empathy to be responsible, and Logic is what motivates them.
INTJs want to make things more efficient because deep down we are motivated by a strong sense of right and wrong.
INFJs want to help people and manage their feelings because deep down they are motivated by a desire to learn and make sense of the world.
I hope this was helpful.
It's extremely easy to know whether you know you're and INFJ or INTJ... INFJ by definitions are thinkers they are not feelers. Feelers are those who are "introverted feeling" Users, for the rest we only refer and care about other people's feelings, we understand them and manipulate them, and we feed off of that, but that's it, our own feelings are buried, I have saved so many people who I don't give the slightests of Fs about... I speak both languages and I am fully balanced about everything. The first and only thing you need to know the difference is... Do you want to save humanity? and other questions like... Do you feel like you have to change the world through human hearts?... Can you feel what other's feel?... It's too easy.
Advice from a fellow, slightly older INFJ -You better watch it - because the humility is an issue here, you seem to be lacking it.
@@hasgoodles7807 Hey :D why would say that I lack humility? Because I spoke about myself? I might've meant to trigger or might've wanted to be a little over direct but... What's the point of holding back? I was actually talking about the fact that a lot of what I want cannot be controlled... But... Will you say I have no humility from that message?
It’s generally nice to watch some non-quarantine content - nice upload
Anytime! My normal life is me self isolating so this period is fun tbh ~ Nathan
I have taken the test 14 times. I get INTJ-T 50% of the time, and INFJ-T 50% of the time. My thinking to feeling ratio is always just a couple percentages either side of the halfway point. I relate to both very strongly. Does this make me INXJ-T?
Looking to the cognitive functions will hopefully make it more clear for you. I'm an INFJ and slowing been coming to terms with how crap I am at Te lol. Thought I was so efficient.
No, it makes you INFJ. INFJ's are always like this and none of these tests ever catch it... The only test that will actually catch it is the official MBTI Step II where they actually have the "INFJ Thinker" or whatever.... INFJ's develop their thinking function and then think they are thinkers...
I have only ever had one test type me correctly [ISFP]. I don't remember which one it was, though. I always get INTJ or INFJ on the other tests, and after looking at cognitive functions, I realized I wasn't either of those. I relate more to INTJ, because it's the same functions in a different order, but I am definitely more of an Fi/Se type than an Ni/Te type.
No, according to the theory, you are either one type or another. You must have a preference for a way of thinking and feeling. To understand what it is you've got to look into the cognitive functions. Since you've got your perceiving axis pinpointed, you just have to look at the judging axis, it could either be Te-Fi (INTJ) or Fe-Ti (INFJ).
Briefly, the fist balances between directly acting on the external world towards one or more goals (Te) and keeping true to your individual principles/morals/self (Fi). The second balances between creating connections and keeping armony between other people (Fe) and keeping your own self-sufficiency and a coherent personal view of the world (Ti). Look for these two patterns in your life and you'll see that one of the two fits better.
There's more online on the dynamics between cognitive functions if you want to look into it more in depth
Thinking about it, there's also the possibility you're in a loop. That's when, to avoid the discomfort of developing your auxiliary extroverted function, you unconsciously lean on your tertiary function. That could make an INTJ believe they're feelers or an INFJ may believe they're thinkers.
It's all about your cognitive functions. Those letters are just code for what those cognitive functions are. My guess is that you might be a jumper and as such, it's making it difficult to determine what your second and third functions are. (Meaning perhaps you prefer using your third function over your second.) Humans are complex creatures.
It's still extroverted thinking and introverted feeling for an INTJ or extroverted feeling and introverted thinking for INFJ. Hmm, one difference I see in the two types to put this in other terms is a leniency towards a preference for protecting the truth for INTJs vs protecting the peace for INFJs. This isn't to say INTJs can't be tactful or that INFJs can't be truthful, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made to maintain one of those. Also, this isn't always the rule either, just common traits.
Then again, those tests could be completely off and you might be something else entirely, because they are flawed.
Society doesn't expect women to hide their feelings and it expects them to be caring towards other people. Maybe that is why more women are INFJs than INTJs.
I think I am an INFJ, but some of the traits does not suit me - I love debating, in most cases I think that decisions should be based on logic, oftentimes I hate when people sugar-coat things and I can also be kind of selfish. I definitely do not have the problem of "putting other people over yourself" that so many other INFJs seem to have.
In my thoughts I am often very cynical, but I do not show this because I don't want to hurt people.
Actually I try to repress most of those traits I have mentioned. This is because I care deeply about being likeable, and those traits are not very socially acceptable - especially not for women. So maybe I am truly an INTJ who just tries to be more like an INFJ because that is what society wants me to.
Let me know what your thoughts on this is:)
Ok this solidifies Im an INFJ, thank you Lord (If you exist) for the video.
I feel like I'm changing personalities between INFJ and INTJ, depending on the situation. I've understood the video very well, and yet I still can't decide.
Edit: After learning cognitive functions, turns out that I'm an ENTP lol
Edit2: After learning cognitive functions even more, turns out I'm an INTJ
You can try to learn about the cognitve functions of both types, especially Polr function. It is the 7th function in the cognitive function stack, for INTJ it's Polr Fe n for INFJ it's Polr Te.
INTJ: Natural at Te, miserable at Fe.
INFJ: Natural at Fe, miserable at Te.
That's the biggest tell. I'm INTJ and was confused if I'm actually an INTP (because my Ne and Ti are very strong too) but when I learned about Polr Function, I realize I'm obviously an INTJ because my Fe game was really very bad.
Tldr: if you're bad at Fe means you're INTJ, if you're bad at Te means you're INFJ. If you're bad at neither, means you are not INTJ nor INFJ.
@@rossy3lo ı wrote these when I was typing with letters ans stuff. Now I'm sure I'm an ISTP lol that was unexpected for me
@@someoneelse1044 whoa, So you're TiSeNiFe, thats the combination of INFJ's auxiliary+tertiary function and INTJ's dominant+inferior function. Interesting!
@@rossy3lo I never even considered being a sensor type back then but it makes sense now
@@someoneelse1044 well, every sensors has their intuitives side (u have it in ur tertiary function). I have sensor too in my inferior function (I'm intj). N is not better than S, T is not better than F and vice versa. Every type has its strength n blindspot.
I'm an INTJ with an ENTP shadow side and an INFJ persona. I write arguments and evaluate decisions for judges as a living. At first I really struggled to apply empathy in my job. Over time an INFJ persona emerged to better handle the tragic stories in my field of work. I spent a lot of time debating whether I was an INFJ or INTJ because of this, but when I was faced with stressful situations and the ENTP would come out to deal with it I would always default back to INTJ, not INFJ. I further spoke to my professor (clinical psychologist & Jungian psychoanalyst) about my debating and he brilliantly was able to relate to me on my level (did a degree in Logic & Philosophy) and asked me if I were a Schopenhauer (INFJ) or a Nietzsche (INTJ). And that really cleared things up for me. Sometimes it really helps to be the presepctive of someone with a deep understanding on the topic. My professor doesn't subscribe to the whole MBTI world, but he's written countless books on Jung's archetypes and has a deep understanding of his works.
You're INFJ bruh...
I went back and forth for years between these two types and finally was typed as ENTJ which was a shock. Being a loner and very independent, I didn't realize I could be an extrovert. Once it finally clicked, though, I can see it. I was that little kid at the curb selling vegetables while everybody else was off playing. I get bored "having fun" and love doing yard work. The highlight of my summer is when I work myself half to death selling fireworks and make thousands of dollars in two weeks - why is it so satisfying? I don't know, lol
One of the big cues (which I was missing) is the way I can immediately think of the steps - 1, 2, 3, 4 - to reach any goal or complete any project. If I have a boring day ahead, I think of it as a project and break it into steps. But I'm definitely not the boardroom, sports car, suit and tie type, at all.
Great video! I'm an INFJ who has been called a counselor/therapist by so many people throughout my life lol. As I grew, I started valuing Ti more and using Fe less often which made me feel like an NT type, but I never valued Te more than Fe. I think the only times I engage in logical arguments is when I'm in a group of friends among which harmony exists and bringing up an argument won't affect the friendships on the long run.
Are you going to add more hoodies?
Eventually yes we will add more hoodies, just trying to figure out how to make sure they print in high quality. What do you think would make a good INFJ hoodie? ~ Nathan
Exactly right, which is why INFJs are often mistyped as INTJs.
It’s so complicated for me and I mistyped as an INFJ for a long time because I am a counselor/therapist (for my job) - but I view people as problems to solve and break them down into smaller parts to address and “solve the issue.” I sort of think of myself and people like machines, and that can help me be unbiased - but also sometimes too “efficient” or cold.
Personality types are so complicated because even working as a mental health therapist I am definitely far more focused on logic than people’s emotions.
One of my closest friends is an INFJ, meanwhile I'm an INTJ. We have many aspects in common, and we often talk about the challenges of daily life. But I'd noticed that we actually have a distinct approach towards human contact. He's better understanding the motivations and emotions of other people, but I have problems doing the same. I love this fundamental difference, and I think we spend a very nice time learning from each other
I don't like how at 7:35 he frames the notion that when a person is feeling bad it's because they have a problem, and when that problem is solved, they'll feel good. That's not a belief so much as it is observable fact; there is a reason why people feel bad, thus there is a "problem" that once solved will indeed make them feel better. I don't see how anyone with two brain cells to rub together could dispute this. People don't just magically feel bad for no reason, and if they did, it would be because they had a problem that caused them to magically feel bad for no reason, presumably some form of brain damage or brain anomalies.
Lurking in lairs! That is truly, where we live. This is in so much alignment with the video I just posted today about the negative aspect of being my type. We are so immersed in “the thing” and getting it to work in the way we see it, it’s sometimes hard to escape.
Also thank you for touting the inaccuracy with personality tests lol. Also thank you for using the functions for accurate triangulation🙏🏻.
I'm an INFJ and I've constantly thought if I was an INTJ because I gravitate towards Ni-Ti and completely shut down my Fe-Se. I'm working towards exercising my extroverted functions because I find that when I use them I get better feedback from people and I even feel motivated to use them often for the Fe environment I can be involved in and create (to feel part of something). Quite the opposite of INFJ, people probably think I'm an NT when they talk to me for the way I automatically refer to Ni-Ti and come off stoic and then I feel bad I gave them a misunderstanding and try to change the issue if I can (which is indicative of Fe).
There's honestly so much overlap in behavior with INTJ, but I think a surefire way to know is to really study the functions and learn to spot them in video examples and apply them to yourself. It can be difficult and take a lot of time, but it's worth it when you finally know because then there's room for self-growth. Learn as much as you can until you know it. There are tons of videos out there just make sure you know that they're giving you true information. If you're an Ni user you'll most likely know or get the feeling that you're one of the two types just because Ni can make you feel like an alien. I can't find another way to describe it, it's almost like you're on a mission or something and it has to be done.
Fascinating! Have a look at the Objective Personality typing system. You may be one of those jumper types that I mentioned ~ Nathan
@@lovewho Thank you, i'll check it out
Hah, Nathan, you're the best.💜
I just wanted to add something (bc i'm finally pretty sure about my type and i'm able to accept, that i'm...pretty sure about it). I'm a jumper infj and my best friend is an intj. We are amazinly similar. We have the same interests, the same approach to philosophy and religion, similar experiences... I can imagine that telling these two types apart is veeery difficult.
I've noticed that the main thing that Ni-doms want to do is getting into other people's heads and understand their motives, it works for infj's and intj's as well. The main difference is that intj's are very good at optimizing things, they want to reform the world. They care about people but in slightly different way. They use Te+Fi so they sometimes...tend to think they're always right and force others to leave their comfort zones... It's actually really cute😂. They like ordering around and, suprisingly, their Te makes them generally less confused about their type. They are also less expressive, their faces seem sometimes like masks. Infj's usually want their face to express something (they tend to mirror feelings of others), intj's don't do that.
Ok... I'm done. Sorry for this essey😅
Well I enjoyed your essay very much. Also yes that would make you appear to be very similar. Both introverts, both IxxJ types, both Ni Doms, both NT types, both Se inferior. Very similar indeed with some complimentary differences ~ Nathan
Glad to see you were able to accept the truth on your type... You don't really see that often with looping (jumper) INFJ's... They are almost always too adamant in telling themselves they are "organic" thinking types (INTJ/INTP)... Seems like a real.tough pill to swallow for them so nice to see you've been able to come to terms with it...
I prioritize harmony now more than I used to because I found out the hard way (over and over and over) that coldly disagreeing with people in typical INTJ fashion is an extremely unlikeable quality. I don’t need many friends but I admit, I also don’t want people to hate me either.
For years I'd get INTJ in various test results but something didn't quite match. Now I started getting INFJ result as well. In recent years I became spiritual, way more self accepting and healed myself of childhood traumas. I think my INTJ personality was a defense mechanism while the INFJ is actually my true nature as a way more relaxed, confident and empathetic person. I wonder if others have noticed a similar transition - from Thinking to Feeling - following a healing process.
This helped but honestly made me more confused. I heavily relate to a lot of aspects of both ends so you may be right most of us are towards the middle. That may be because of our overall motivation towards self improvement so we try to make ourselves as well rounded as possible.
Truly truly one of the best videos of the differences between INTJ and INFJ. Thank you so much!
Thats great to hear! Glad you enjoyed it ~ Nathan
Yes, Nathan, you do something very alchemistic with your aqcuired knowledge, while consistently being your mercurial self. greetings, K.
@@karoliendaems5409 Well...I love this comment ~ Nathan
Your video was quite balanced and covered quite apt points. Many a times I've noticed typical INTJs on youtube who just say that INTJs remove feelings completely out of their decisions, etc which sounds totally illogical; In fact, that can be a source of inspiration for many of the activities that INTJs undertake.
My husband and I are intjs and i love the mugs! I will check them out! Thank you for your videos. It helps us describe ourselves better when others wonder why we're so different.
Feel like I bounce between both, I’m good at relating with people and trying to help them solve their issues but I’m not good at showing other people my own emotions and issues. I don’t talK to many people, but the people I do talk to I’m very close with. I appear cold hearted at first but open up to certain people rather quickly. In general I often feel left out and foreign when comparing myself to others
You are an infj, I am like you.
I am an INFJ and you sound exactly like me.
I am an infj and i sound just like you at first i got intp third infp but i feel close to infj
I'm definitely an INFJ, but every time I watch something like this I am left feeling like I am both INFJ and INTJ depending on my environment. INTJ when alone and able to allocate time to what makes me happy, INFJ when there are others around demanding my time/insight/guidance....
I imagine this would be similar for many other INFJs that manage to get their own time away from the rat-race and everyone else's (usually confused) feelings.
INTP with INFJ bestfriend who is a Ti jumper, she's unbelievably smart for her age... not as smart as me but very close. haha
The greatest thing about this time in self isolation? I can be alone for ages without having to feel unsocial and can still satisfy my Fe function by analysing characters in books, TV shows and on social media.
An INTJ *ALWAYS* knows we’re INTJ, our whole lives before the point of us figuring out we are INTJ is a series of saying “what’s wrong with people or why are people so stupid or why won’t people just leave me alone?”
So we search for the answer like Mulder & Scully until we come against the *hard truth* that we are in fact the X-File as we suspected (in that we actually use logic to make decisions and live in the world).
I was a Human Resources manager, I know it seems impossible for an INTJ female. And it was hard to connect to people in the way they ‘thought’ they wanted. I think my poise and perfect systems in terms of managing people freaked them out.
But oddly when I left and when I see those old employees in the world today they *always* say how at the time they didn’t ‘like’ me but now that they have worked with other idiot managers they realized I was actually one of the best managers they’ve ever had and miss working with me.
I think people get *freaked out* by just how efficient and effective INTJs can be because most people can’t do both with the same precision so it makes us kind of unlikeable in the moment, but once people have a chance to step away and see how their world was sooooo much better precisely as a result of our INTJness they realize how great we are to have around even if we don’t like to talk about your dog or the weather 🙄
So in truth you’re correct Nathan: if it *works* better people *will feel better* they just don’t know that’s what the real problem is 🤷🏽♀️....people 😔
Yeah. It's 100% always the INFJ's that have this dilemma of thinking of themselves as INTJ's. It is never vice versa... Literally never...
This reminds me how I once asked a friend who broke up with her boyfriend to tell me how sad she felt on a scale of 1-10. I don't think that question was appreciated lol. But I only wanted to know so I could decide how sorry it made sense to feel and express the accompanying amount of comforting sympathy- and it was real sympathy, but I can't feel very sorry for someone if they say they're fine. I was trying to be a good friend but it probably came across as robotic. But I have a feeling many INTJs would understand this perfectly.
@@17x71 Originally I shared this sentiment for years which is why I said I was an INFJ but after spending time with other INFJ and INTJ I found I relate more to INTJ but thought it was just because I had Ti. The meme's create a disconnect and I didn't think I can be an asshole however they saw no Fe and everyday I'm trying to analyze the most effective means so they suggested that I'm more likely an INTJ. In most cases you're right but it's not 100%, I don't see typology as something to brag about and many people base it off the archtypes rather than being based off the functions but though I don't mind dealing with people I'm relatively incompetent unless I am close to somebody and/or safe under the confides of the internet.
Essentially to me I see most people as ignorant but that is more based off misinformation and laziness than actually being incapable (though I'm sure there are many who are) so while I may casually tease them about it I don't attack them based on that. As I said because of the meme nature of the INTJ archtype and growing up the way I did people gave me a false impression but I never saw myself as a "nice guy" (which I think is common among male Fe users) but rather pointless conflict based on narcissistic tendencies was not an effective way of dealing with others. In person I am incompetent and trip up over my words even after practice which sounds like Fe Polr to me, where as I like to have things set up and have methods to my madness which suggests I'm NOT Te Polr.
@@LordOfTheWhores Another case that proves my point... I have heard this same thing a million times from you INFJ's. Nothing you presented was not relatable to INFJ... None of it... There is literally no room for confusion for an INTJ to think they are INFJ. The other way around is not the same. There is plenty of room for INFJ's to confuse themselves as INTJ's...
@@LordOfTheWhores like you are saying "after spending time with some other INFJ's" you notice difference... Other INFJ's don't have to be exactly like you... Adolf Hitler is INFJ ffs. Nothing like the typical portrayal of one...
Thank you, your comparison videos are very helpful! Even though their function stacks are very different, I would be curious to see an INFJ vs INTP video.
Interesting! Ok I'll have a think about that one ~ Nathan
Yea I’m still intj just because I can lurk in my lair 😂 but good gravy, it does get a little lonely, I look up to infjs and wish I had some INFJ friends in real life. Team Ni!! Great video Nathan!!
I have never heard a young person say good gravy other than me when I was younger. Lol made me chuckle, my grandmother said that all the time.
#TeamGoodGravy
Glad you liked it! ~ Nathan
Corduroy and Maple hey Melanie, I hope your family and yourself are well and healthy during this crisis! And it’s a great phrase team Good gravy all the way!hehe
@@astridtheearthling Thanks, Astrid. We are okay so far, hope you and your are too.
Hello, may I introduce myself? INFJ here, your new friend.
INTJ. This is probably the most insightful INTJ commentary with several nuances that made me say, "exactly!"
I hope this comment gets through to you, as I would really like to hear your opinion. So here is the gist of it.
Being an INFJ that probably had some traumatic experiences during childhood (nothing too serious and I might be over-dramatizing here), I concluded that hard facts / logic would be a better base to work from. Basically I've consciously jumped to what you describe as the characteristics of the INTJ, while at the same time understanding this was not my innate inclination. With no doubt, it was a defense mechanism, to protect myself from getting emotionally injured. I think this shift mostly happened out of chance, due to some events and as there was no similar person (at least to my thinking) in my environment, I constantly doubted things that otherwise I would not. Therefore some youth problems were not properly addressed as I had to work completely on my own.
As I grew older I had a weird deconstruction of what the self is in contrast to the collective (I vs we). Rather than differentiating and putting them on opposite sides, I've figured they are better being on the same. I can't list the number of times I had a breakthrough into understanding others immediately after understanding a flaw in myself (and vice versa). In MBTI words, my Fe was drastically enhanced through self reflection and understanding. I may be wrong as I am not an expert in MBTI, but that does seem like a weird point of convergence between Fi and Fe. From what I've read, Fi is a blind spot for most INFJ and I can certainly understand why. I doubt however it is for me. I still subconsciously put it on the "back of my head", but I certainly know now how I can reach out to it. Main reason is because I had to at some points in my life. In that regard I do not completely agree with this split of functions as most people would say, or, I'd wager that the shadow functions are not just meant to be detrimental, but surprisingly beneficiary and tied (on certain aspects) with their counterparts (like little bridges to cross over).
The messiah complex, additionally, was severely alleviated by putting myself on the same level as I would put other people. The hard logic also alleviated the dizziness of emotionally sensing people around me and would work as a compass on how to treat and judge those emotions, for the benefit of everyone involved. In a way, those two things, logic and emotions seem to have fused in my head, something I occasionally considered a blatant bias on my part to avoid the harsh conclusions. It is obvious however that I had a very strong affinity in understanding others from a very young age.
In the end, I wouldn't desire reality to step over people's desires, but I also don't want desires to step over reality. Although it is considered that INFJs will pick the first and INTJs the second, I think they would be equally wrong if they were to adamantly stick on one option. Human desires can be simply stupid at times, but also reality is not the constant factor thinkers make it out to be.
If we were to ask for example, whose reality? Mine? Yours, or the worlds? As those 3 potentially differ and if reality is supposed to be unchanging, then certainly two must be awfully mistaken. But is that really the case? Two approaches might differ, but also work at the same time. On the other hand, can we not argue that this pursuit of the "unchanging" reality has been a bust since the dawn of time? How many people sought out this hard, unaltering truth causing millions of deaths to its name? Nazis had a reality set-in-stone. So did the Soviets and so many others who could not see the possibility of being wrong themselves. How many lives, how much better would our life be if people realized they might be wrong? How many times has the truth/reality of man been proven wrong? Constantly. Isn't it a hypocrisy on behalf of the thinker, albeit subconscious, to disregard his numbness to emotions as inferior, only to raise as superior something that, in the end, can be equally fragile?
Some months ago I've noticed this quote from Carl Jung: "In true wisdom, there is no conflict between emotion and logic". In my honest opinion, MBTI is just a set of different starts. Random events (and potentially a predisposition) sent you over to one side, but that should not mean you are only meant to be this. I do believe that this struggle for "fusion", for development is what we are meant to fight for in the end.
As an INTJ, I agree with the Te-Fi explanation a lot. I am very helpful but when I do it I think "I care about someone so I want to help them" less frequently than "if I don't do something it would be a juicy trainwreck"
All well said, very logical. Some people are more satirical and pop psychology with this subject.
Probably more than the bloody good info on this channel... I luv the dark sarcastic humour.
Why thank you... ~ Nathan
So I am INTJ and this describes me and my best friend. I am an alien in social situations and he is a social genius. Thank you for this, I was quite literally telling him about this extroverted side he had and he recalled being given an INFJ result but was unsure. Him and I perceive identically but I could not figure out what made him have this extroverted side that I didn’t possess. He is charming and I have charisma and it is an alchemical balance. Honestly, it’s so nice to have this explanation.
intjs have sort of a median social function ability and don't go to extremes socially. infjs have a wider bandwidth and will isolate for a time period, then be the hit of party...then you won't see them again for six months. btw- this video is probably nt overload for anyone who's not an nt type. lol
You are amazing at explaining things and making them very clear. At first I had a hard time listening to you maybe because you speak so fast but now I really like the way you organize your talk and how you explain the whole thing in a video that is not even 15 minutes long.
*I like things short, concise and clear✨*
INTJ here. That was a really neat video. One of my best friends (of which there are few, of course) is an INFJ. Your description of the two types was quite insightful and brought to light why he’s such a good friend. I’m sure you probably get a lot of requests on here and don’t have time to humor them all, but I was wondering if you’ve done a video comparing INTJs and ESTJs. In particular, I’m curious to learn the dynamics of a relationship between the two be it a romantic relationship, friendship, or a relationship in a work setting.
That's a type comparison I haven't thought about doing before, thats an unusual one! I'll have to have a think about that one! Glad you liked the video ~ Nathan
Good video.
Do one on INFP and ISFP or INFP and INTP. These types seem to have similarities from the outside but are pretty different.
Good idea! I'll make sure to get around to those ones soon ~ Nathan
INFJ.Never go to a Te strong with feels. My experience is I’m not looking for solution but understanding and acceptance and maybe some good humor. Te strong listens, criticizes and prescribes solutions, leaving me cold, irritated and well, hollow. Hey what does Te blind look like(pun intended)? I wonder if it is the critical parent(6th function) that can send us into the infernal grip?
scrillion6 yes to this. Lol.
P T Well.....thanks for sharing your feelings about my having feelings. Do feel better. Sorry I don’t have something funny to say. Maybe another time
@@priontex4439 wow just wow....
@@priontex4439 bye
P T funny...the one where I said that for some people to sort out their feelings, it helps to express them. That talking can get one to organize their mind, their heart. But of course one should do this with a SAFE person, a person who can just listen and may have a good sense of humor like my ENFP friend. And when a persons mind/heart is clear they are better equipped to do things like the dishes or a divorce. And then you said Eeew and just went on an abusive attack on person you know nothing about? Yeah I figured it didn’t matter my comment. You shine all by yourself. PS I’m not your narcissist. Im not your anything. And I have no idea what that relates to me, men who tell women to smile. You clearly have been hurt by someone and you are projecting.
And since you did bring up how ISFPs can mistake themselves for INTJ (I don’t think an INTJ mistakes ourselves for ISFPs to be honest with their lead Fi) I’d love to see a video on that.
I do think ISFPs mistake their Fi lead for Ni often and that’s how they get INTJ but when you actually look at how we use our functions we couldn’t be more different in how we operate within the world.
There is a saying I saw that said ISFPs: think “don’t tell me what to do” v INTJs: “I do what I want”. If you really look closely there’s a Big difference between the 2 in how we see our agency in the world. ISFPs are defensive whereas INTJs are offensive.
that last point is very interesting and i can see the truth in it. As an Fi user i get so defensive when told what to do i sometimes do the opposite of what i want just to avoid listening to someone elses orders. Sounds silly i know
I like to do a dismissive hand swipe, break eye contact, and say "not within my sphere of interest."
I always thought you came across as INTJ and I have watched since Lu started the channel.
David Kepke I thought the same thing! I would love a video with him explaining himself haha.
@@elainecary2884 I'm nearly certain on the fact that he's ISTJ... But I'll admit that it's tough... He also likes to keep people guessing...
17X I can see why you say that too.
I totally relate to the part of, looking to find a common ground of agreement, even at my own expense.
Awhile back, that changed ...
I actually had a reality check when I was in conversation with someone and MY perspective was to do what was right ... a term to be negotiated ... and eventually agreed upon ..
Where I was told, he was concerned of HIS interests & what was best for him.
I still remember saying to him, I hear you ... but if that's the perspective we're coming at this with, who's looking out for what's best for me?
And in that moment, I realized I was the only one that would. I realized then, that I needed to change and start thinking of what are my interests in things & not so concerned about MY presentation of what "appears" to be fair.
INTJ here. Your point regarding the fact that INTJs can be emotional and INFJs can be rational is quite accurate indeed.
As an INTJ, it has taken me quite a lot of effort to actually understand non rational human behaviour in a non logical manner. I have become good at it, but it is not still something that comes naturally to me.
INFJ: Context
INTJ: Consistency
That still doesn't help me because both are extremely important and non-negotiable 😅
okay, I am laughing way too much at this one. guess I'll buy a mug.
seriously though, you are obviously well acquainted with this theory and talented at explaining it to viewers. tks
Thank you so much! Also please do buy a mug lol, also any feedback would be really great on them! ~ Nathan
@@lovewho since you asked...as an INTP it would be great if there were a way to depict the mind rather than the brain on a mug. I have no suggestions on that, by the way. : ) Maybe I'll just buy one of the FP mugs instead, since I prefer the design.
@@cdenese108 Ok let me have a think about this. They'll be constantly updated with new ones over the next few weeks!! ~ Nathan
Test: INTJ. Heart: INFJ. :D Thank you for this video! :D
Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Nathan
Great video Nathan! Simple and linear
'Simple and Linear' - I take that as very high praise ~ Nathan
@@lovewho yes, absolutely. There are no weird assumptions here, what yous said is quite real.
Morning Nathan!
The Sweater.....and a haircut :)
Well you have made my day!
Thank You!
Melissa:)
Between me and you.. my mother cuts my hair lol ~ Nathan
Love Who She does a great 👍🏻 job☺️💜💯
dude thank you so much - this has basically confirmed that I'm an infj :D
Wow thats awesome to hear!! I love it when we can help people narrow down their types. We have a lot of INFJ videos on this channel so feel free to check them out ~ Nathan
My result INTJ or INFJ is always changing depending on my mood.
After watching this video, I learned that I am an INTJ. Thank you.
7:13 I resonate with that, and I've never heard it as articulately worded as it was here. I never noticed how I often think that whatever arrangements work best are what will ultimately satisfy people's desires for emotional fulfillment.
Usually, most other people just say "oh, Te-users are OBJECTIVE!" but never explain how or why, especially since as humans everyone is far from being 100% rational.
"For people, but doesn't need people." I like the way that's phrased.
"especially as humans no one can be 100% rational".
You're PolR Te is blinding you from seeing the truth... You INFJ's always project your own downfalls and incapabilities on all of humanity... high Te users are literally objective thinkers...
@@17x71 If you actually read what I wrote, I was praising him for his explanation.
I stand by what I said; no one can be 100% rational. To believe one can be completely objective is a delusion, a farce. We only see the shadow not the object.
At any rate, I suggest you spend more time reflecting and less time assuming things about people you don't know on the internet. If my comment truly annoys you and makes you jump to an immediate conclusion as to my type (which is conveniently a type you seem to despise or think inferior), you have a lot of growing to do.
@@DemonixGamer Demonix Realms Demonix Realms Demonix Realms if you actually read what I wrote you'd see I denied nothing about your praise and was specifically focusing on the objectivity part...
It is hilarious how you suggest I spend less time assuming as you literally just made a boatload of assumptions in that very same paragraph...
I also find it amusing that you are objectively declaring that to believe you can be completely objective to be a delusiom and farce.... The hypocrisy is unreal... My point is very simple. Speak for yourself. Just because you can't see the object doesn't mean others have to share your same downfall...
Finally, I am not assuming you're type. You are literally directly displaying the epitome of PolR Te in everyway right now... Like that phrase you just made fight there "you only see the shadow not the object" is literally directly PolR Te. The PolR function is the blind spot. Te literally looks at the object. The fact that you have a hard time seeing it, and only see the shadow is the blind function literally.... That is IxFJ...
@@17x71 The shadow metaphor for objectivity was actually an allusion to Plato's 'Allegory of the Cave' that obviously went over your head, so... Whatever.
It IS hilarious though how pompous you sound, meanwhile the true irony here is that every word you write about me reveals more about you than I.
Your unprovoked and uninspired whingings to a simple comment have shown you're obviously the type who loves the sound of their own voice. Have fun chatting with yourself. I don't care to speak with arrogant people.
It took be a while to see Te that way since I've always been surprised how introverted ENTJs can be despite having Te as their top function ~ Nathan
very informative and to the point, one of the best videos describing subtypes on UA-cam.
Thank you! ~ Nathan
I am in my "Lair", that's why when COVID happened it's like the situation is normal for me, favorable even, I've already worked in NYC for my first job, I did my part, I did not only give them my marketing plans but also I gave them business plans, but they let me go before the virus situation got worse. So I'm just day trading now, stress-free (from people), and everything is based on my decisions and my visions. Hehe. Work isn't really stressful, just optimize the system to make it efficient and you're done, people make work stressful. I'm pretty sure everybody can agree with that to some degree.
I love this vid, I also got to know what's the main differences between me and my ex-girlfriend.
King if you did a ISTJ vs an ISFJ that'd be great. Your explinations are always quite helpful
Man. You always hit it right on the nail, Nathan.
Love it! Thank you ~ Nathan
Hey, the mugs are beautiful. I especially love the ENTP and INFP.
I have some feedback for the INFJ mugs. Both of them are kind of jokey options, I personally would prefer something more serious/symbolic/inspiring.
^_^ I hope that helps.
Ok I had this exact thought too! Any thoughts on what would be good for an INFJ mug design? ~ Nathan
Ahhh... that’s the hard part! I like how the ENTP mug signifies their brilliant ideas and mind... so something that symbolizes the INFJ’s more inspiring qualities... maybe something to do with perception (3rd eye, INFJ stare type thing). But at the same time when I’m drinking tea I’d want something that didn’t remind me of my overactive mind and would be more on the grounding side - connection to nature/the earth/other people. 🤷🏻♀️😅
@@baileyab47 The third eye is a good idea :)
If you want something that invoques nature. Maybe the moon? It has a similar symbolism as the third eye (being able to see secrets).
"That's just really bad" - now that is something I never though I should hear an intp say...
A very biased INTP** ~ Nathan
Brilliant! Thank you. I'm an INFP ..and just lost a friend in Dec. who was INTJ. You described both of us to a T!!!!!
INFJ with Autism here 😗🤘🏻
(which probrably doesnt help with the social skills department)
I’m either infj or isfj
INTJ and autistic here🙋🏽♀️
I love your explanation the most on INFJ & INTJ here on youtube. 💖
I feel I am both INFJ and INTJ depending on situations or experiences. I also get both results when doing the test a few times. Like there are 2 sides to me.....I want to help others to see where they should be going but if they don't follow that advice and continue to complain then I have no more patience for them and shut down, usually just nodding and smiling. I also have a high need to come across as individual and am often told that I come across cold and detached unless I have let someone into my world.... which is a very small #
I guess this makes me a jumper..... and I do value highly my 1st and 3rd functions more than my second.... thank you for explaining that savior/demon idea 🙏
The quiz on Human Metrics that gives you the percentage on each of your functions actually helped me understand this and my placement a lot better. I’m an INTJ but my Thinking over Feeling preference is only 3%, which is why a few times recently I had been getting INFJ. Makes perfect sense.
Te-practice oriented
Ti-theory oriented
Fe-shared preferences
Fi-personal preferences
As a very logical INFJ(even though I’m not deep into MBTI so I may seem illogical when talking about MBTI, and I’m not good at English), I find myself even more Fe than those more emotional INFJs, since I’m highly emotionally suppressive, and that suppression can of course only towards my Fi.
So I found it very amusing when Patrick Bateman said he “has no emotions except for greed and disgust”, because that’s all emotions one can get, that’s what emotions essentially are. If you are truly emotionless you will be Buddha.
Empathy/Manipulation is not an emotion but a simulation, and this power only fully releases when you are completely emotionless of your own-you need to fully empty your own heart to fully simulate others’ hearts in all possibilities(which means, flawlessly). So extroverted functions will eventually become other people’s functions instead of your own, it’s a part of your brain but it’s not yours. It’s a UI for other people to interact with your mind, having that selfless(literally) part in our brain makes us social animals. Being social animals means we can’t be complete individuals, some degree of hivemind is not sci-fi it’s already here in our extroverted functions. So choosing between Ti-Fe and Fi-Te is actually choosing either to keep your own T and throw out your F or to keep your own F and throw out your T. It’s a big difference between Ti and Fi, which one is your true heart and which one are you willing to sacrifice.
Way cool, very clear, true, accurate. Some of my friends really would be surprised
Awesome, glad you liked it! ~ Nathan
LOVE YOUR MUGS BY THE WAY!! I AM DEFINITELY BUYING 2, FOR ME AND MY BOYFRIEND!! (i wish one of us was an INFJ cuz' this unicorn mug is killing it... pun intended)
Love it! Please let us know if there are any improvements or other types of designs you'd like to see, we want to constantly update them ~ Nathan
Am definitely INFJ ... 1.Friends get surprised when I tell them am introverted.. they can’t even believe..
2. self focused on other people,yes!
3. People really think of me as a counsellor..like I get the impression that I give great advices.
Etc
Clear! Most clear things explanation ! INFJ here! I sometimes just feel too connected with ppl I’m tired. It’s nice that INTJ value improvements in physical system I admire that cos I am weak at this
INTJ here, I can see you work hard on improving yourself and delivering your message as harmoniously as you can.
Strong balance of NE-SI and TI-FE.
I subscribed.
Also your girlfriend is ESFP?? that’s a powerful combo
I have learnt to balance the thinking/feeling binary, which suggests that I am aging gracefully 😌. Once a girl told me, 'You are so funny.' But I don't have the courage to ring her up now🙄🙄🙄.
Always thought nah I’m definitely not an INTJ until this... now I’m thinking maybe?! Possibly an INTJ who was too uncomfortable with the INTJ-ness so started acting softer and more wishy-washy. It’s not very acceptable to be an INTJ as a female. But then part of me thinks would an INTJ actually give two hoots what anybody thinks and try to accommodate their wants??? Back to the drawing board 😂😓
Check out our other INFJ and INTJ videos to see which ones resonates the most with you! Let us know your thoughts... ~ Nathan
My mom did the test and INFJ was the result, just like me. I KNOW I'm a INFJ and sth didn't seem to make sense because of some big differences between us. Now I'm 100% sure mom is an INTJ. Thank you!!! ❤❤❤😘😘😘
Awesome, glad we could help you narrow down her type! Thats really great to hear ~ Nathan
That point about socionics you made is true I am INTJ and I am an artist and I try hard to be good with people, I’ve even done door to door sales and worked in a clothing store.
My INFJ friend is almost done writing his book and likes programming, Math, and physics 😝
...and I love, LOVE INTJs. And enfps. I love them too. But I have never found INTJs to be cold. ISTJ, yes. But not INTJs. They never come off this way to me. They come across as if they know exactly what they are doing at every moment of their existence. They make every single action or inaction seem so intentional. If they don’t want to talk to you, they mean it. They are actually the most easy to relate to, for me. I can be anything I want around them because they are so internally driven, I can never flatter myself enough to think they even give a damn about me, in terms of whether I please them, or let them down, it’s the best. I can just be me, even the weird parts. And it’s fun to get to know them. They are very authentic to the core. No bullshit. -infj
I want to be able to speak like this. Extremely concise and compelling.
I’m an INTJ married to an INFJ and it works out very well.
Thanks for bringing up the jumper idea. I was a highly Introverted INFJ as a child preferring Ti. It was because I felt unsafe in my environment (Detroit) so though Fe was important to me in the sense of avoiding conflict and staying safe it was as you say treated as a daemon function. I knew this myself but it's great to hear that this model has been examined by others and is seen as valid by some.