INTJ vs INFJ - Type Comparison
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- Опубліковано 26 лип 2024
- The INTJ and INFJ personality types tend to be regarded as similar due to sharing the same dominant function, Introverted Intuition. For this reason, there will often be some confusion as to whether a person is one or the other - afterall, each are Thinking and Feeling types in their own right, but what differs is the manner in which these functions are engaged.
In this video I employ CPT methodology to help tell these types apart, and attempt to elucidate the significant differences between their styles of thought. Some people will always be more 'neutral' than others and accordingly feel affinity with both type descriptions - nonetheless, they will still lean more towards one than the other, through this presentation of the two extremes I hope people can find the type they belong within.
Thanks to Kiara Kerrick and Tristan Strecker for the subtitles!
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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Introduction - 00:00
Cognitive Maps - 00:24
Attitudes - 06:34
Pressure Points - 11:28
Levels of Consciousness - 12:35
Attitudes II - 18:37
Recap - 21:42
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KEY
Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!
#infj #intj #16personalities
Thank you for saying INTJs are empathetic. The stereotype has bothered me for years.
No worries, it bothers me too!
Same
B Cazz, just noticed your handle :)
@Serra 힘 Kerrick dude. You're an obvious INFJ. Shut up and quit spreading misinformation when you know nothing... You literally just explained the fundamental aspect of Fe... Goodness...
@@17x71 Dude, what are you trying to accomplish here aside from acting like an immature child? If you actually want to have a rational conversation with her, don't come at someone with insulting and demeaning terminology. It's quite obvious that you're not truly wanting to talk but just saw someone that you thought you can troll.
You insulted in the very first comment you left by telling her to shut up and claiming that she knows nothing. She knows who she is and what her type is far better than a random troll on the internet. Your whole argument is based on one comment that you saw, that by no means gives you any sort of real insight into who the person is.
I truly hope that at some point, your life comes to have more meaning so you can stop sitting around being an asshole on the internet, because you feel you have a sense of anonymity, and start treating people with the respect they deserve.
This is the closest thing to actual science i've seen in an mbti guide, well done!
Ah, thank you!
INTJ and an artist. Yes, we exist.
Yes indeed!
I wanna be a teacher and a writer. So yeah :D
Cool! I'm also an artist and know a couple more INTJs that are artists.
Hello, Im one of those. :)
same lmao
10:00 "INTJ's own view on something will be an amalgamation of different theories that they've read"
Wow. I think nothing sums up my intellectual life better than this.
I've watched probably 80% of every personality type video from every content creator on UA-cam and... you are the king.
Thank you, that means a lot!
Me, knowing 100% that I'm an INTJ: Just gotta watch to make sure.
Hope it was informative!
INFJ here doing the same thing. I think I obsessively watch videos to confirm what I already know to be true because 1. I have mental illness but I'm also used to being gaslit and told I'm lying about who I am and what I feel and 2. Apparently a lot of people want to be an INFJ (while we're all out here like. WHY) So I'm constantly terrified that maybe I am just faking it and maybe I'm not who I think I am and I just want to be sure so I can properly assess myself, my strengths and shortcomings, and compare to and understand others. I'm doing my best..
From an Intj perspective, having feelings and emotions all over the place like a messy room is inefficient lol. I put them all away in neat drawers.
Perfect analogy!
Yup. I'm an INTJ. I was doubting if I was because I tend to be very interested in helping my peers in solving any emotional turbulence they experience. I found this contrasting with how I am sometimes called out for not being empathetic. Now I realize that this is often a result of me completely missing social cues that other people put out. On the other hand, if someone directly opened up about an issue they faced, I would be able to give amazing advice as if I had experience it before (for example: in romance despite having 0 experience). I've also noticed that I have major interests in psychology and mental-illnesses than the average person - I am absolutely intrigued by understanding the human mind and applying those thought processes to myself and the important people around me.
This does sound highly congruent to the INTJ cognition. Cheers for your comment!
make sense
Precisely!
Sounds exactly like me. Yes!! So happy to finally know my type after struggling for so long >.< and for you to know too hehe!!
THAT IS SO TRUE
As an INFJ I’ve always really admired and sometimes envied the INTJ’s way of objectively controlling their emotional states and precision in what they’re doing. They have a great knowledge about feelings and emotions, but it never usually holds them back. I feel blocked because I’m too concerned with others emotions that even though I can think in a similar way to them and is usually right; I can’t always act on it because of overly thinking about the feeling and intuitive information of others in a situation. It’s overwhelming and very frustrating being an INFJ
I relate to this. CPT posits the Fe of an INFJ as the Authority Function, and as such as logical as we can be we hold this logic accountable to the feelings of others - it's possible to bypass this but is nonetheless stressful when we do so.
INTJs by comparison are the complete opposite. They are accountable to their Te and can subsequently subdue their Fe in favour of this authority! The pressure point here is when the INTJ must readjust their values to Te logic :)
An INFJ can train this if they can learn that emotional control can sometimes aid in the emotional harmony of a situation. For example, I was trained in first aid early in life and so learned a degree of compartmentalization and control of intense empathic feelings. Now I use it at funerals and other intensely emotional situations so I can be of better help to others and not be overwhelmed by intense feelings in the moment
@@a.r.8954 Absolutely agreed + this is one of the ways in which Feeling and Thinking can actually compliment one another!
Damn. I feel for you. (INTJ here) But the MBTI is only a roughly drawn road map in the face of life's complexities (every one is different, nature and nurture etc.). Its shines brightest in its ability to show strengths but more importantly weaknesses. I've only just discovered the MBTI in the last few months but I always knew or got feedback, the stare, the lack of emotions etc.. Now Im a social butterfly and I dont mind doing it because its often the path of least resistance. It empowers me to overcome my flaws. I hate small talk but now I can and will. I think we have a dangerous kind of focus that way, always trying to be the best or improve, if pointed at ourselves (safely and correctly.. watch out..). You can do it to. Work on it, take a chance. We have advantage and affinity for not needing the approval of others, they disagree, I leave. They'll only waste more of my time and energy. If I need them, do 'the thing' with the warm smiles and focus on their fun.
I so wish INFJs and INTJs to get along. Why can't we together contribute to our immediate environment in a more fulfilling way! I really admire INTJs.
INTJ + emotional trauma will definitely help develop a skill for deciphering micro expressions :) yayyy
I am an INTJ and throughout my life I have been taken many times to the psychologist (especially in adolescence) and not for getting high, but for questioning authority (parents, teachers ...) and not having friends. For me it has always been very difficult to explain that it is not a lack of empathy and that I am not obsessed (at the OCD level) with analyzing everything. Thanks for explaining the personalities. To this day I still don't understand how people want to be INTJ. Being who I am has brought me a lot of problems. I have been forced to act differently so as not to be constantly judged by my family.
Thank you very much!
My pleasure :)
That sucks, I guess being any personality type can bring you problems. I'm an ENFP and people think I'm crazy coz I laugh a lot and talk to myself. A lot of people came to my mom to "kindly" ask me to stop smiling and laughing so much and it's just very frustrating. People just automatically consider me dumb and dismiss my points even if they make a lot of sense.
I am an INTJ and I have never had problems with having friends, but I prefer being alone. If I have a goal that 'requires' me to stay in home and work for weeks or even months straight without seeing anyone I can easily do it.
"To this day I still don't understand how people want to be INTJ." -- I would not change who I am. I am fasinated about the truth and true meaning of something. Having a long-term goal and achieving it is extremely satisfying.
Me too. I always wondered if something was wrong with me for not behaving the way everyone wanted me to behave, or the way everyone else behaved. I'm okay with being myself now, though, but I always wished I was more in tune with others emotions and the sensory world.
@@peterpeterson3385 does isfp act the same?
As an intj I’ve noticed that I’m not as empathetic as some of my friends but not because I don’t care, more because it bothers me to have empathy when trying to find a logical reason why something is happening
Cheers for sharing!
Oh my god i tought i was the only one
This video is fantastic. My INTJ friend helped me run my martial arts studio. My job was people, teaching, working with kids, maintaining good relationships with students and parents, and of course expressing the theory of what we were doing and why. My INTJ friend ran the nuts and bolts. Processes for the office and running the place, keeping track of the details in regards to our memberships, etc. We had a GREAT working relationship!
Thank you man!
One of my oldest friends is an INTJ and he always rocks at the details - growing up we often played videogames together and it was a great combo!
For so long as they aren't stepping on one another's toes I believe this can make for a totally amazing action-duo ;)
You always want either an ISTJ, or an INTJ around, so awesome ! ~
No one works better! ~ Prime efficiency taskmasters for sure ! ~
Had...what happened?
I've known quite a few INTJ (including myself) who works in mental health. we are the ones whom were very goal directed, didn't get along with other kids during school years... and was puzzled about why other people and ourselves had felt certain ways.
we studied for self help and tried applying what we learnt on others, kinda like solving puzzles. and before we know it, we are already enrolling in a program delivering mental health care to others.
i appreciate you stating clearly that we do emphatize. we might struggle with picking up emotions at first, but we make up for it with empathy and experience. INTPs can be just as emotionally sensitive as any other types.
As an INTJ the only thing is that you mentioned were oblivious to others emotions. We’re not, we are aware of other’s emotions, but emotions are not something we process easily, so we ignore them, our own and other’s. It’s not on our priority list. I currently had an INFJ talk about how they can’t tell apart other’s emotions from their own. I can, so I ignore them. I told them “you’re feeling anxious and overwhelmed and I can tell they are your feelings, not mine, but I have a hard time figuring out where those feelings come from and why, so I’m not going to bring it up or talk about them. I know what your feelings are but I don’t know why or how. So I’m gonna let you figure them out on your own because I know you will figure those feelings out faster than I ever can.” So yeah we are in tune with those emotions but they’re just kind of in the way, so we tend to focus on our own instead of other’s, because our own individual feelings are overwhelming and difficult enough, let alone adding other’s in there.
I’m an INFJ and I’ve always been able to empathize with others best, if I’ve been thorough something similar. If not, I might be somewhat detached and more sympathetic. I have an INTJ partner that’s perfectly capable of empathizing with others, so the stereotype that they can’t has always bothered me. The 2 of us have had conversations about empathy and our dislike of people that show little empathy towards others. She considers herself somewhat empathic and identifies herself as an introverted HSP. Anyhow, good description and comparison.
Exactly :) Sounds like what what I said resonated with your personal experience, which is awesome!
Yes INTJs are incredibly empathetic and, indeed, often HSPs - I'd say this is even more common for them than INFJs!
Allo.
@@lisaia7877 Hello friend, good to see you here! By the way, I subbed your channel.
In my opinion, one thing is particularly evident when an INTJ and INFJ develop feelings for somebody.
The INTJ starts imagining some type of future with them by using their Ni before finally deciding to start a serious relationship in relatively less time and they see the picture which is clear to them but might not be clear to the other party. This makes the INTJ not see the emotional reason why this other person might be unsure of where they are in this emotional road and I reckon this is connected to the unconscious Fe of the INTJ. So, they often end up pursuing that other person unless they come to the conclusion that the future can never be possible to achieve and they start to pretend that this other person doesn't exist (the famous door slam).
However, an INFJ tends to be fairly oblivious of what they want from an emotional perspective and might be slow to figure it out because their Ni works with their Ti more than Fi, consecutively making them think about their internal logic more than their emotions while deciding on starting something serious. Nevertheless, it might be easier for them to figure out what the other person's feeling because of their use of Fe, thus having to deal more with what they are experiencing emotionally rather than being unsure of this other person. Similarly, INFJ also has Ni and they imagine a future with the other party too, but they are constantly questioning the reality of it because of the comparative absence of attunement with their own emotions.
This was a theory I was guessing and I hope it was clear from my side.
Looking forward to receiving additional insights.
@The V word it be nice to hear his insights on your comment.
I know someone already said it but thank you for stating how empathetic INTJ are. The Fi child function within the INTJ is extremely altruistic and I find that a lot of individual that are into the MBTI don't understand that.
"This type can relate to almost anyone."
Damn right. It's very easy for me to view through other people's eyes as if I experience what they do.
Thanks for confirming!
I can empathize with people even without having gone through the same experience. I just need to talk to them or even just observe them. And then I see subtle hints, clues, cues, behavioral patterns, even facial expressions, and connect these emotional, social, verbal, non-verbal data with each other and/or with the social context they are in, and somehow I am able to draw a painting of their experience in my mind.
However, empathizing with people does not always inspire an emotional response from me. I can empathize without feeling anything.
Do you have the same experience?
My point exactly - you've perfectly described my own process of 'relating' to another person's position without having been in it myself, and I consider this a process of our Fe-informed Ni-Ti circuits, which makes us very imaginative re: people and their circumstances.
I would generally have needed to have experienced what they person has experienced in order to 'feel' empathy, however, as the prior cogitations are like with yourself fairly detached on an emotional level :)
It can be confusing bc I have developed a way for me to know what I feel when I am feeling something, so in a way I'm an INFJ with higher Fi than Fe, but I can definitely understand someone without having felt it myself by using Ni-Fe. When it is about something I personally experienced myself or have an attachement to, I do react emotionally if I would never want to even think of being in that situation ever or perhaps again, if I'd been through it already. I cried at parts towards the beginning of the 2019 Joker movie. My friend supposed to also be INFJ, but she didn't react emotionally. She did laugh at certain parts the Joker seemed scary though (coping mechanism I would think).
Edit: I was able to detach myself from later parts of the movie after having expressed at the start and then compartmentalizing. If I catch myself early enough, I can prevent myself from crying, but the first parts were like a smack in the face and I was taken back to my own experience or attachements.
I know I'm INFJ bc I definitely struggle more with diagrams/mechanisms and having to take external references than sorting through information I took in from others. Often, if I do have to get references, I'll go through whatever I have to to find the ones that discuss the particular details I thought about while concluding the right way to think about the topic. I can express a logical conclusion I had if I worked through it in my mind, but if it is a complex one, I would need to write it out or something since my mouth doesn't like to cooperate plenty of times. I have a harder time with diagrams/external data when it starts getting complex which is frustrating because in reading words explaining a concept, I could easily be like 'yea' but then it gets represented in a graph and due to the complexity I can get confused so I gotta watch myself and internalize it long enough to make sense of it in my own way. Eventually I can manage though, especially if I take it in from someone else like a teacher who explains well.
@@MCPanda-bl3nc INFP is a possibility too, from what you have written, as the Te of this connects to an Ne authority, sometimes making the type overwhelmed by complexity as they want to take in all the options, and managing to detach yourself sounds like the Fi-Si emotional mastery I always admire in this type. INFPs would generally be better at external mechanisms but collating the information within their minds would be more of a struggle due to unconscious Ti, and as such take a while of letting information sink in.
I sound like your INFJ friend as when watching movies with other I feel compelled to present a strong front, while using tactics like laughter to seem emotionally invulnerable - but if emotions were to manifest they would ironically come out in a flood. Still, what you've described could definitely apply to either type!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory I rely on Ti for understanding stuff (Te is lower). Though I do have my fare share of Fi-Si, I am driven toward Fe whether I like it or not, considering all the possibilities of an implication, etc. I'm very future oriented and I would formulate my own thoughts or theories as a kid especially. I'm 100% Ni dom bc I have a sister that's INFP and my AP lang teacher from high school is INFP, so I definitely know Fi doesn't show up in me like that. In a way, Fi doms can be more selfish since they base their judgement primarily on what they think, but I primarily base my judgement from Ni-Fe. I am flexible though, so I make sure both the person and I are good with a situation. I will be selfish if I need to in order to feel as my own person bc I loathe catering to other people without also thinking of my own needs (I knew from a young age I needed to fix myself first before helping others.) As long as my needs are met and feel I can express my own opinions, I am more inclined to open up and interact with people. Ni-Fe makes me inclined to help someone at times even if I am busy at the moment. I don't regret those times though, it's what I'm driven to do. Right now, I'm a business major, going for accounting major. It's the only thing I see being paid for in the future at this time bc helping people is something I'll do when I want, such as in my personal life. I don't want to be paid for helping someone. I also find psychologists overpriced since I can do that for myself even without labelling everything 🤷♀️.
Edit: The bursting into flowing tears is real. Once I start, I can't stop. I felt like I broke through a third wall when I learned if I caught myself early enough, I can detach myself (stop thinking of it - doesn't always work, but usually the best option - or simply look away from what is there -works with certain things-). I watched Midosmmar (Don't watch it) and I was able to practically not cry, but damn it tested my ethical patience. Not even the asshole deserved what he got at the end.
@@MCPanda-bl3nc Fair enough! Sounds like you have a great Fi function in any case, which is always awesome :)
Just found out yesterday I'm an intj personality type, and now some of my thinking makes sense to me. I've always said that I empathize so much with humanity that it makes me a misanthrope, because I can't fathom how horrendous we can treat each other. Thank you for the video, very informative.
I feel like a combination of INTJ and INFJ. I’m obsessed with gaining knowledge and improving myself and think of life like a game that you can win if you make the right moves . I try to create my reality in my head and act how I want to become but I also feel like I sit back and observe my social environment and am good at reading social cues and telling how people are feeling or reading between the lines and predicting outcomes . I don’t know what the hell I am lol
That's exactly me and I type as INFJ 5w4
17:00 I'm an INTJ and software engineer. This reminded me of a recent code review! I understand what I wrote... but where did I write it? Oh wait... it's in this Class. I remember now. So I open up the file and show it. It works. I understand it. I built it. But the cat has my tongue. It's So hard to express what it is that I just did and why and how it works. And the person reviewing my code is like, "Why did you do this? Why did you do that?" I don't know it was just intuition, I ran some tests, it worked and it fits this giant system I have imagined and uses software patterns strategically so the project can scale. Then the code reviewer revises my stuff saying, "you could have done this... and that" and suddenly it fails and throws exceptions.... and an hour later he's still debugging his changes to my code and says, "I have a meeting to go to".
This is such a great example - an ingenuity towards the external at the potential expense of communicating the internal process that informed it - cheers for your comment! :)
Been there, in a similar situation. I can't tell you how many times I was right and they just didn't see it until later. SMH...
Jfdyhbdthjvdd I want to lightly slap that person...
As an INTJ software engineer. I can totally relate. Haha I've always been like this, even with math. I can't explain, I just know. 😂 That's why we make for bad teachers. Haha I get angry how some people don't get it as fast as I do. But I can't help them either. 😂
@@tulips7465 i had lots of times where people asked me how i got really good at something, usually a video game, and explaining them sounded like i was reading off the wiki article and i'd lose them
INXJs make for great learners, but terrible teachers, i guess
As an INTJ 5w4, I have to say you have the most concise, articulate, and well explained videos pertaining to personality theory on youtube. I’ve watched several creators, but no one has nailed it the way the way you have. I greatly appreciate how well you bring things to light. Keep up the great work.
And as an aside, thank you for bringing to light the emotional depth of the INTJ. Us being perceived as cold robots is one of the worst stereotypes among MBTI theory.
Thank you! I have always thought I was an empath and would read books on it trying to better understand that mysterious, emotional side of myself but then I thought well, as an INTJ, I guess I'm not THAT empathetic compared to feelers because we aren't good with Fe. I actually think I'm really good with Fe because I've practiced it for decades now. I forced myself to work in the restaurant industry for about 4 years in order to hone my Fe/social skills. It was HARD but it was good for me. I got fired from my first job as a waitress because I was so bad at it. LOL But over time I got really pretty good at it and ended up with promotions and offers to go into management. At that point I left and pursued my career in science and programming. Honestly, I'm still relatively blind to people's expressions in general relative to my INFJ mother but I'm not too bad.
But I DO FEEL so much empathy. I feel so deeply it can hurt. I routinely cry a little when I see another person suffering. And I am soooo happy for them when they have joys and successes. Thank you for articulating that we are empathetic. I KNEW it It's so true. My Mom and I would get into discussions where I would explain how I could understand how this criminal did this or that person did that and she would be so offended. She thought that because of my ability to "understand" the bad person that I must somehow be relating to them or identifying or condoning their behavior or something. It was very distressing for her and I just could not get it through to her that I was just seeing their perspective, not condoning their behavior at all. In fact quite the opposite. My thinking is that the better you can really understand someone the more likely you are to help them heal (like if you are a therapist - I was a psychology major for awhile). And my Dad has said many times "your mother can rationalize anything" LOL. He never said it in a positive light though (they were divorced).
But yeah, I am extremely altruistic. I remember being very curious to study altruism philosophically when I was young. And my global, grand plan does indeed stem from my Ni/Fi. My lifetime goal is to help the world evolve into a better world, where people can communicate better and understand themselves and others better and better express themselves using digital media. I'm extremely passionate and driven to this and have been working on it in my free time for about 15 years. One day I will reach my goal, at least with some level of success, even if only in my community or state or country. I'll be satisfied with that.
Yes! This is great!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory I forgot to mention that my Mom was an INFJ so we had that whole Te/Fe and Fi/Ti conflict going on.
I still don't know if I am INFJ or INTJ. The thing you said with understanding the criminal resonates so much with me and I sometimes feel bad for being able to feel that way. I am so happy I have my mother an INTJ that also understands this.
Oh my gosh. Thank you for sharing your story beautiful one. Cause that's EXACTLY the conversation I would have with my sisters. It didn't make sense to me why I was so different from them - why even though we all had different personalities I had to be the odd one out. And why they could never feel my empathy or love. They saw me as detached and cold when I saw them that way instead.
And yes, you're so right. I believe that we need to understand to be able to help them heal. It is my philosophy as well!
And yes, just cause we empathise and understand why someone "bad" does something, it don't mean we want it to happen or are on their "side" - I do get that a bit since I used to think in a very similar way too - having been affected by family members who couldn't reflect back to me any form of healthy emotional engagement.
At the very least I have a rational relationship with my dad who is willing to listen to hear me share open mindedly. So that has always helped keep me a lil bit more sane as well.
My own mission/purpose I'm building towards is very similar to yours. Helping people to understand their emotions, feeling safe to express them and in turn create transformations in their own lives and for their own families. I wish to assist the younger generation to shine their inner light and own who they truly are without internal judgments formed, without influence of the external world - like many of us had been influenced/conditioned by. To have a strong sense of their inner self. And for families to commit to harmony, love and understanding instead of toxicity. So I really adore this. Thanks for sharing^^
@@estelakanoviya7284 💕🥰 I wish you well in your life plan. It’s sooo needed. As an older INTJ, I will warn you to be sure you attend to that inferior Se. It’s my downfall, planning more than acting and I’m trying to have more balance between my dominant and inferior functions so I can fully realize my plans. Good luck!🍀
🎯 thank you! The emotional aspect is the reason most people mistype me as an INFJ. I am incredibly empathetic. Very well articulated. Much appreciation for the work you put into this!
Sir, this video is very informative. I am an INTJ and everything you said is spot on definitely the part about knowing exactly what emotion I'm feeling and hiding it.
Sometimes when I play games with my siblings I get annoyed when I they keep beating me but I try and hide it. Even when I win I continue to hide my emotions. I prefer to keep a straight face so no one will know what I'm feeling.
Thanks so much - I wish I could hide mine as that sounds like a lot of fun!!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheoryFun? Well to me it can be a bit tiresome.
@@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon My mistake, I interpreted what you said to imply emotional games rather than hiding out of privacy! Apologies!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory No need to apologize. Thanks for replying.
You’re very thorough and detailed about how the types work. It’s usually a lot more accurate than most of what I see out there. Thank you for that! The fact people often think INTJs are not empathetic always bothered me. It couldn’t be farther away from truth. Also, I will say that in my case I’m highly aware of social cues and what’s going on around me, but I appear oblivious to others because I chose not to entertain it. Often times I get to my goals more efficiently if I just push without acknowledging the social cues I’m receiving. So I do think that’s another misunderstanding. One other part worth mentioning. . . We do always evolve and adjust with every new information, but that’s from the stance of growth and advancement. On the other side of that coin, the INTJ is extremely consistent. Whether it’s a friend, a family member, a President or a bum, there’s a total consistency in treatment and who the INTJ is. So it’s important to note it, so people don’t think like one day the INTJ is a certain type of a person, and then they abandon their identity and totally shift to something else based on what suits. The moral values are quite solid, but skills and knowledge are constantly evolving, which in turn is evolving the INTJ and sometimes their views and approaches. Are you one of these types? You said “we” a couple of times but I failed to capture which one. Do you know if there are much differences between men and women of the types?
After watching this video I finally understand why I, an INFJ, struggle sooooooo much with mathematics. Especially every time we are to learn something completely new. I also finally understand why it's so difficult for my INTJ friend to explain things to me, hahaha.
Ahaha! Cheers for the great comment :)
can't relate, i always did well in math and science
- INXJ
@@dmas7749 same
I've been going between calling myself an intj and Infj for a while now. I'm in the middle, literally. But after watching this video, I think I'm sliding more on the infj side
Thanks for the comment - glad it was helpful :)
@@seawolf_USA I too think about past conversations of how it could have been better or worse if I were to say or handle the situation differently. And yet, I am an INTJ. Such simple theory as to whether one thinks often about past conversations or not cannot accurately determine an individual's type.
Have you considered factoring anxiety into it?
@@artKarolina definitely. Now I actually know for sure I am an infj. Turns out my enneagram is 8 which causes me to use Fi and Te a bit more and that caused confusion :/
Me too! I have taken the test a few times. I have had both the INTJ,INFJ and ISTJ as the result. I am wondering if my emotion and state of mind at the moment as the reason. Such as vengeance caused the result of INTJ, indifference ISTJ but mostly I have had iNFJ. I can resonate with many of the them. Which is why I have taken the test multiple times.
“detail oriented toward mechanics” felt that. i’m a writer but also like graphic design (perhaps even programming/coding which i have yet to fully explore) and find it pretty fulfilling to revise my projects in such a meticulous way. when im actually invested in these things then it’s noticeably one of my strong suits to take into account the mechanics of something and adjust it to my liking
I appreciate the depth and breadth of your analysis. It shows you've really taken the time to expound on the personality types, and your examples really help drive home your points!
Thank you, that really means a lot!
As an INTJ this described me pretty damn well. I appreciate how well you seemed to understand the type.
Excellent - cheers :)
Amazing video, super high quality and very well explained, thank you so much
I’ve been checking out your videos quite a bit lately and I must say, you’ve done well compiling your data and communicating it.
I can’t help but listen while I’m both at work or the house
What you said that INTJ is very empathic through imagination is very spot on and I've never seen anybody address it. Thank you for that, it was very beautiful.
INFJ after all lol. I've always gotten an INTJ result on MBTI tests, but after diving into the cognitive differences between the two made everything much more clearer. Thanks! :)
Awesome! Cheers :)
Thank you for this video! You've clarified very well the seemingly subtle differences between these types and I'm now more sure in what my own type is (INTJ). There are a lot of opinions out there that made me question my type a lot because I'm not out here heartlessly steamrolling over peoples emotions as the stereotype suggests. I can at times be empathetic to the point of my own detriment. Thanks for 20:44 in particular!
Thank you so much for this video! You've described mental processes that I go through but could never really put into words. Whenever I do try navigating external logical systems, I'm painfully clumsy and unaware of how to do so, and I do always resort to finding one single overarching pattern to do a certain thing, since it greatly simplifies the process, but it is, like you said, often inefficient and extremely difficult for me to properly explain to others. I've had trouble figuring out things as simple as how to fix a printer with a paper jam if I hadn't been exposed to it before, and dealing with it in the moment would give me extreme anxiety, whereas people around me can resolve it pretty much effortlessly. However, I am hyper aware of micro expressions and emotional tones with people I'm interacting with, and I do feel those emotional "vibes" really strongly in the Se moment, but whenever I'm out of that immediate situation, I quickly emotionally detach and go back into my abstract theoretical musings. I also really struggle with changing my emotional nature and who I am, and whenever I try, I do come to a conclusion that "my internal emotional landscape is just too complicated, mysterious and outside of my conscious reach, even though it does have a great effect on me daily. It's just how I am and it's better for me to not even try". I didn't even think all of these struggles are related to type, which is why I never find stereotypical type descriptions relatable/satisfying. Your content is brilliant however!
Thanks so much for this comment! This does indeed sound like a very INFJ though process - I do believe our immediate Te ineptitude can be overcome with patience, however :)
Cheers for the support!
This was such a helpful and in depth explanation. Really informative. Thanks for making it
Thank you for the words of support!
Thank you for this. I'm an INFJ with a weak Feeling tendency. This explains why I consider other people's feelings, while getting annoyed at people who can't follow the flow of traffic in a parking lot.
Thanks for sharing. Once again your insight into my thought process is kind of uncanny. You explained a lot of my emotionality that made me think I was a feeling type for quite some time. The explanation of the relative styles of empathy/sympathy from the INTJ and INFJ makes a *ton* of sense, and perfectly explain why I feel for certain people - I don't put the effort in for most people, but the people that I'm close to I often imagine "If I were in that situation, this is how I would feel" (sometimes this doesn't work out - not everyone reacts like I do, lol)
Yes, exactly! Thank you :)
thanks for such an insightful way of presenting the types, it helps me a lot to get rid of the stereotypes and understand MBTI deeply. I've almost mistyped myself as an INFJ; I was once sure that I am an INTJ, but the vision of a cold INTJ who only cares about their emotions didn't really correspond with my tendency to sympathize with people, but now after watching this video I don't doubt Fi's empathy.
have a nice day anyone who is reading this!
Cheers for this comment!
This was very eye opening! Thank you for making this clear. I’m an INFJ and my mom is an INTJ; and boy do we clash, lol! However, when we work together we accomplish much! I feel that I understand her a lot better... so thank you 😊
Thanks for sharing!!
I felt like this was describing me (infj) and my brother (intj) ! Thank you for the video, it helps to understand more about the both of us and how we think ! I really loved it !! ^^
Glad it was helpful!
This was very good. I have been trying to find some objective analysis between the two. Thanks!
Thank you for the comment, I'm glad the video was helpful!
I am neither of these types but the fact that I watched this whole video, being intensely focused, says a lot lol
I was skeptical of your theory at first but as I learn more (I always end up coming back here throughout the day lol), the more I understand and this accept your approach. It really is fascinating what you are proposing here!
Thank you for your posts about INTJ.
Even with the added difficulties of being INTJ with synesthesia, I wouldn't trade it.
I have struggled to communicate well with others my whole life.
To help, I learned to analyze what I intend to convey, and then "bounce it" off of the person I am speaking to.
I seem to "talk in circles" reflecting translations of my meanings until they finally "get it". It is a lot of work for me, and so exhausting.
I explain my meaning by the relationships of one-thing-to-another, in metaphores, detailed descriptions, or in scenarios. I try to interpret their learning style and customize my phrasing to help them understand me.
People are often confused by me until I find just the right way to decode my thoughts to them. Then, they are amazed at how clearly and thoroughly they understand it.
I hope it worked this time, too.
I relate to everything about the INFJ description except the bit about manuals! I'm always the one wanting to defer to the manual, because I have so little confidence/ instinct when it comes to figuring out external mechanisms. I have definitely given up quite quickly in frustration though, if the instructions don't seem to make any sense to me 😉
Thank you, Harry! It's a very interesting compare. Go on for another pairs of types.
For sure! :)
Thank you very much. All of my "tests" say INFJ, but I believe that I am INTJ and your excellent video clearly support me as being INTJ. Best comparison video I have seen. Thanks again. awesome
Could’ve typed my self without you bravo my friend🗽
I really enjoyed the video thank you for giving a more in depth explanation about the two personalities
My pleasure!
This is brilliantly made and well informed. It also shows that a lot of human understanding and research work were done to make that video and I will be sharing. I now am certain that I'm an intj and not an infj despite several people automatically trying to stereotype me as an infj because of gender. Thank you very much.
This is exactly the sort of feedback I hope to receive.
Thanks for taking the time to comment!
love your video - very insightful and helped me understand myself better. thank you! :)
Glad to hear - thanks for your comment :)
You are extremely smart. It sounds so basic to say it that way, but I don’t understand most of what you’re saying, and yet find it fascinating learning about the ‘reverse main functions’ to my personality type as an ESTP. Thanks for sharing such an in depth analysis of the two types!
Thanks Rachel, I definitely want to be understood by as many people as possible when I make these videos and even though it's encouraging to receive such kind words my priority is getting this information across to everyone :D
I'll actually be covering the ESTP briefly in my next video, and how they access their divergent stack in an INFJ manner!
Awesome, look forward to learning more from you!! Thanks.
Thank you Harry your theory is incredible. Most of the time I do feel I have spent my emotions on "things" thus leaving no more for people.
Thank you so much :)
Thank you so much. For a long time I have felt like an INFJ but tested as an INTJ or even ENTP. However your explanation of INFJ expressed my thinking and emotional state precisely. I often have no clue what I’m feeling, but am battered by emotions. I’m as clumsy as it comes, yet I am great at understanding another persons immediate emotional reaction through observation of micro expressions. I seek harmony because I can’t handle conflict and find it distracts from achieving a greater good. And finally, I’m extremely focused on innovation and looking at things from different perspectives. Thank you again!
Hi, I could not pass by your wonderfully descriptive reply without leaving you with a thought or two about your descriptions, including "For a long time I have felt like an INFJ but tested as an INTJ..." and "..no clue what I'm feeling, but are battered by emotions." Barbara and I have been working with clients, friends and extended family to help empower people by using Jung's "Type" and MBTI for some 4 decades now. We would offer you the thought that these two phrases seem to express one of the more glaring confusions about Jung's use of the world Feeling (that permeates too much of the general "Type" community to this day).
Feeling JUDGMENT (which is what Jung describes in exquisite detail in his book and lectures) is not about emotion. In fact, he explains that emotion is encountered with all of the cognitive functions and overrides their normal operation---and that emotions (and feelings) are specifically NOT Feeling Judgment.
If your preferences for introverted iNtuition and extraverted Thinking are very strong (as would be the case with a strong INTJ preference), one should expect exactly what your describe. i.e., testing as INTJ, but feeling like an INFJ (at least at certain times). However, the latter would occur only if one equates emotion with Feeling Judgment---which Jung says is not the case. Rather, your second point about "no clue" and being "battered" by emotions is exactly what Jung predicts for someone with the cognitive functions that are found within MBTI's INTJ preferences.
And, for one other idea to consider: your description of being "...great at understanding another person's emotional reaction through observation of micro expressions..." can also lead one quite far afield because detecting "immediate emotional reactions" through Ni is definitely not a reliable way to connect with, or understand, someone who prefers Feeling JUDGMENT. You may or may not be reading their emotional "state" accurately. However, since Feeling Judgment is not emotion, using Ni to detect emotional reactions focuses one's attention on associated AFFECTS --- NOT on the actual F evaluation (Judgment) process that is occurring nor the resulting judgment. Understanding F Judgment requires a respect for, and true connection with, those who prefer Feeling Judgment so that one starts to experience and appreciate the complex narrative, the full context, and the "subjective" evaluations that make up their Feeling judgments. Otherwise, the experience is more like two ships passing on the ocean at night---thinking that each saw something, but not truly appreciating what was going past them.
Hope this helps or at least gives food for thought.
Thank you for this super informative video. I’ve learned quite a lot about my type ever since I subscribed to you and it makes me really happy. Thanks again for the great videos :)
My pleasure and thanks for the sub :)
Very interesting to come back to this video a few months later from when I first watched it.
I'm still relatively new to cognitive functions and it's a whole lot to take in! But I became much more certain that I was an INFJ -- funnily enough from your video on "5 Signs You're NOT an INFJ" among other videos of this type -- and knowing this served to be an excellent starting point for me to reflect on what I've learned about how I interact with the environment and the people who live in it. And by extension this gave me a better idea on what aspects of my own life I needed to strengthen.
The more I worked on myself (which is STILL a difficult thing to do because it includes the task of figuring out how to be in tune with my own emotions/identity, whatever that means) the more I resonated with certain traits of, say, an ISFP, and ENTP, and especially an INTJ, among others. Whereas previously I would have identified exclusively with the INFJ type.
If I'm reading this right, the object of the game is to become as well-rounded as you can, starting from an accurate-as-you-can assessment of where you are right now. Does that make sense? It feels like I'm all over the place on this cloud of thought haha
Yes, I love how you put it. Type gives you your current location, and the pathways towards individuated balance :)
I love your proficiency with wordsmithing.
Thank you so much for doing this in-depth series. It helps me get inside the minds of characters I make up and understand them better for role-plays, writing, and other things.
I know, maybe that sounds shallow and ridiculous, but it's extremely helpful :)
Sincerely, a very grateful ENFP
This is an awesome and underestimated value of typology for sure!
Cheers for the kind words :)
Thank you so much for this video. For a quick concrete anecdote of how some of these INTJ traits manifested for me in a recent social interaction - I (INTJ) was watching a video about the future of the universe and its eventual demise due to rampant dark matter expansion with a few close friends. The video was greatly upsetting me as themes like this always do, so I was acutely aware of my emotional state the entire time while watching, whereas keeping a perfectly expressionless outside demeanor, and instantly retreated to the bog for a cry and to compose myself after it was done, because I felt extremely vulnerable and uncomfortable about anyone knowing that the video was emotionally affecting me so deeply.
After returning, I thought I was reading the room with Fe and picking up on how sad everyone else was as well regarding the video. To test this, I asked - and apparently, I had completely misread the room, as everyone was just fascinated by the cool graphics and excited about the fancy science - and no one was sad in the slightest, so I had not read their emotions and social state at all and incorrectly projected my Fi on them instead. (I guess that is what I get for watching such a video with a bunch of existentialists).
Your analysis of the INTJ and their emotional landscape was greatly helpful in allowing me to analyze this and multiple such interactions I've had in the past. I had thought I was far too internally emotional and empathetic to be an INTJ and that I had been mistyped, but the videos on your channel helped me to make sense of myself.
Thank you once again, hope my anecdote could be illustrative and not completely off the mark.
This is an excellent account of Fi in this position! Glad to have been of service :)
Thank you for this video. My colleague is an INFJ and I am an INTJ and she really gets on my nerves by missing deadlines, worrying to much about what other people think of her and her work, and doing things very inefficiently (in my eyes at least). This video helps me to better understand how she thinks and works.
I am an INTJ. Recently I was told by an unbeknownst clairvoyant I casually met on a hiking trail that I was a “higher being” and that I was highly gifted. It seemed odd she would tell me that without knowing me, but her companion told me that I should take that to heart because it is very rare that she says that to anyone. I’ve always known I am highly intuitive and wonder if I’m empathic because I can’t detect the slightest changes in people’s emotions. As I learn more about INTJ qualities, it all makes more sense and explains so much how my brain works.
Awesome video. Thank you for it :)
Thank you for mentioning the empathetic capability of INTJs! (Something that, due to endless consulting of external sources over many years, I had wondered if I might be imagining in myself due to a deep desire to have empathy) Here's my two cents; I care deeply about the life trajectories of other people and find it distressing to see their repeated choices that lead to and then reinforce unsatisfactory outcomes. If I care about someone in particular, I usually express that through doing things that will lead to what I deem to be the greatest accumulation of benefits for that person in the long term (ergo, their own process of self actualization, autonomy, identity, confidence building, etc.). So... basically subtle manipulations of their thought processes to try and push them onto what I imagine to be their path of choice. I find it extremely difficult not to engage in this process if I have identified a potential for change through this method. Additionally, I have wondered if I am a psychopath in the past, due to nearly complete emotional detachment from the ultimate path that this person may end up on, so long as it is 'authentic' and 'right' for them. i.e. I really don't care what other people do, however, I care deeply about them caring deeply about it. lol. Here's the kicker though; none of the above process necessarily means doing kind/empathetic deeds in the moment for their own sake (I'll like, weight up what I think to be the best strategy to apply moment by moment) and I've noticed that people seem to develop more autonomy and satisfaction through the feeling of having completed their own achievements without help, so therefore, I'll actively minimize the appearance of any of my input into their life. So, this method definitely can appear cold and uncaring ..
Thanks for your videos and sharing these informations in a slightly different, but detailed and clearing way! More information focused, less stereotyping and mystifying.
1 started to read, watch and look deeper into different types and their inner functions, since I can't really point out mine... learning a lot on this journey so far. Still, I'm quite confused, where I can relate and see myself the most. I could narrow it down to INFJ and INFP. But between these two types, it's hard to tell. (I get also both as results on tests, but I know, they don't have to be accurate)
Everything you're saying about the INFJ so far (also in other videos) is absolutely true to myself and the inner/outer functions in their process. With the INFP on the other hand, I get confused, because in the past I couldn't even tell, if something is based on inner Intuition (combined with ext. Feeling and introverted thinking) or inner feeling (combined with extroverted intuition and ext. Thinking). It is always like - I'm getting information through social perceiving, people's emotions, their needs and what's important to them (where I'm very much focused on, as soon as I'm with other people and not alone, I can forget myself as a person, it is just not important to me in that moment and I adapt easily, so I'm not making anyone feel uncomfortable).... and then intuitively, and automatically - without effort, all pieces come together into one big picture, like a puzzle. And THEN I start to theorise and understand the process (when I'm by myself again), the details, what it means and how I can put it into words or to work (into form, so that others can understand it too) but also where I fit in this picture. Who I am in this, and what I'm feeling.
Yeah, so knowing what I really (!) feel or want, is not easy for me, cause I'm always looking towards the bigger picture, others, how everything connects etc (more in an abstract, objective way than personal.... but I still want to know strongly, who I am as a person. To let other people know, who I am or what I want, too. ( I guess, they can get pretty anoid with me, not showing and expressing who I am as a person clearly, even if I can talk passionate about deep philosophical things or emotions, vulnerability, but more in a way to understand, more theoretical (myself and ideas, visions) and to help others to understand and SEE IT...)
That's why I don't think, I'm an INFP. Even if I love arts, music, writing etc and am able to naturally express myself through a medium (clearer and more direct - how I feel personally, more subjective) In such an intimate state I'm very much connected to my own feelings and who I am, as more aware of it.
Otherwise I'm really too objective because my own feelings and thoughts are somehow covered up, while interacting with the world and other people. I have a sense of it, some awareness, but it just doesn't matter to me in these moments...
I'm very individualistic (finding my own ways to do things, to think and connect) but I don't show it immediately to the outside world or want to be seen as special/different... more seen as someone who understands, has some wisdom, they can trust and relate to.
Maybe some tendencies are hidden... were judged by others, were to painful, so I kept them hidden inside, even for myself to some extend - and that's why I can't fully point out my type a 100 %
So thank you for your content, it helps me, while peeling the onion ;-)
Super in-depth comment - thanks!
Both types love to express themselves through art and the like; the INFP pursues art to share themselves and acquire a different perspective on their emotional state, whereas the INFJ often needs it as a sole means of release and understanding.
A pride in a unique mode of thought and understanding is more INFJ for sure, especially if it allows us to acquire the trust of others as a source of wisdom and insight :)
INFJs would also struggle more than INFPs to keep sides of themselves hidden from others, as doing so is often a conscious effort and a source of stress to the type.
I'll be releasing an INFP vs INFJ comparison in the not-too distant future, and I also have an eBook and Type Service if you ever desire further clarification!: )
It's so interesting. I'm pretty sure I've been mistyped INTP and since then I'm restless, I search obsessively all I can find on the mbti types, because I don't FEEL right about being an INTP - even though I tested as one several times. I tried to understand how I could possibly not have Fi a my 4 fonctions while being CONSTANTLY aware of my feelings (and overprotective of them), and extremely empathetic while being highly logical. Anyway, I'm still doing research about it obviousy, but I think INTJ would really make sense.
Thanks a lot for this video (and all of them)! You have a very fluid and precise way of explaining things.
This is exactly the reason why I consider the classic function-boxes system outdated - as I mentioned in my INTP-INFP comparison video the INTP does dip into their Fi constantly, but it's often less conscious than their Ti circuits. If you feel like the reverse is true for you then you may very well be an INTJ :)
Thanks for the encouraging words, they're much appreciated!
When I did the test in front of friends i got INTP, but when i did it alone i got INFJ
@@zarantikka106 Tests can be pretty unreliable as the stack is fluid - we quite often operate differently around our friends than when alone, and while sometimes our friends may know us better than we know ourselves it will often be the reverse :)
Fantastic theoretical framework! Your descriptions are marvelously accurate, and finally give me (infj) some food for thought ;-) Your concepts shed, I think, a more genuine light on the guilt felt by many infj's, namely as the result from a (possibly unconscious) awareness of our superficial/situational empathy. It has long been quite clear to me that while my alertness + adoption of anything social around me (and being able to communicate that) may come across as being empathetic, it has little to do with empathy. In fact, it may be contrary to empathy. This realization makes Fe function very unhappy...It is basically why, deep inside, I often feel being hypocritical and, at worst, manipulative. In order to deal with resulting feelings of guilt, certainly in friendships and when stressed, I go into this mode of "unplugged" stream of emotional ventilation: a. to make sense of my emotional inner self; and b. to be 'as transparent' as I can (if this makes sense, basically to counter pretending to be emphatic). It often confuses others: 'how can she be so (socially, emotionally) bright and yet so insecure of herself (and unable to deal with her own emotions)? Many of my academic colleagues could be INTJ and I like them a lot.
Thanks so much for this comment! I very much relate to your Fe, and I have found a degree of Fe-authority supression can actually make the INFJ empathise more genuinely :)
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Very much agreed! Thanks for pointing this out!
I’m INTJ well done great video. I like the angle you’ve come at this and look forward to hearing more.
Thanks a lot :)
Don’t mean that in a condescending way just read that back lol
@@RB-rc6rw It doesn't come across condescending in the slightest way :)
Being an INTJ yourself the encouraging words mean a lot!
Speaking as an INTJ, something worth mentioning about us is that we can be incredibly sentimental, usually over physical possessions or distinct ideological concepts (such as philosophical ideas).
I think this is a combination of Te and Fi, where Te intakes and places empirical value on certain "functional" things, and Fi then latches onto those things emotionally. Because a childhood teddy is empirically associated with joyful memories, for instance, it's exceptionally difficult for the INTJ to throw it away. Their Te and Fi are telling them that "this object has profound importance"; Te uses it as an anchor to the real world, and the Fi attributes emotions to that anchor. Removing the physical presence of the object therefore removes the positive feelings associated with the memory, which is deeply saddening for the INTJ. Therefore, the teddy stays.
This also applies to certain methods of thinking, or a fondness for certain types of systems or concepts. For instance, an INTJ who finds a given philosophical theory exceptionally compelling (Te) might feel personally offended by someone casually dismissing its validity or accuracy (Fi).
A combination of these two might be a fondness for certain categories of systems, where the Te marvels at the elegance and efficiency of the system, and the Fi latches onto that and "clings" to it. For instance, an INTJ might develop a personal fondness for classic cars, because they find a certain older style of engine to be "elegant in its simplicity", or some such. They find beauty in the convergence of aesthetic and efficiency, and the combination can be very moving for them.
@The V word Generally, yes.
Although I'm not callous, Fi is a trait which judges moral worth on the basis of one's own personal values. For instance, someone with Fi might stand by the idea that "drugs are bad" because that is in keeping with their personal views, not because of, say, how drugs affect others.
INFJs, with their Fe, are the opposite. Fe draws moral judgement by reading others, and reacting accordingly. For instance, an INFJ might see a load of people smoking marijuana and having a good time, and decide "Well, it's probably okay, then".
Fi-users tend to have very strong and deep-seated feelings about things. They are unlikely to been influenced by peer pressure, and are unlikely to change their views even if that makes them the "odd one out". For this reason, they may be regarded as "stubborn", or, conversely, "resilient".
Hope this helps!
Great, in-depth exploration. The best I have come across for the study of the MBTI types. Keep them coming. Now I finally know that I'm not an INFJ. Possibly. (Think I just proved my INFP-ness there) Have to go on and watch some more of your videos.
I appreciate that :)
I have thought that I was an Intj for years. After evaluating how I functioned with family at a recent event, my husband adding some clarity as we discussed my social interactions, and watching this video, I think that I resonate far better with an Infj. Thank you for this in depth video.
Hi Harry; your understanding and explanation of CPT is extremely helpful and applicable and unmatched here on YT. I love your videos, and it would be extremely helpful for me and I’m sure others if you were able to add CC to your videos. there is an automated function, but there tends to be various mistakes throughout. of course, i recognize that this video is over a year old, but perhaps in future cases? thank you.
Thanks Theo; I actually have some wonderful people working on subtitles for the channel so this video will be gotten to in time :)
I feel so vindicated for my distaste of manuals 🤣
Thank you, this is so thorough and well done. I've watched and read a lot of INTJ/INFJ comparisons but your way of explaining made a lot more sense to me ... probably because your cognitive functions are the same as mine, lol. My "empathing" experience might differ a little from what you described (in function rather than mechanics), but I would imagine that could be quite variable depending on individual childhood and life experiences. Very happy to have found your channel!
Ahaha!
Thank you - yes sharing the same functions would no doubt help :D
Very much so - experience plays a huge role in type variation, and this is atop the fact that every individual is a unique manifestation of their cognitive type.
As am I! Thanks for your comment :)
INTJ here. I feel like pulling my hair out around people like you sometimes 😂😂🤣🤣. The. Manual. Is. Right. There. ....Just use it!
@@annathepiper7964 LOL!!!! I know, most of the people closest to me are manual readers and I drive them crazy 😝 Trust that it would be worse if I forced my brain to go the "read the manual first" route ... for everyone involved! If it's absolutely required I usually try to hand the reins over.
This explanation of infj is so good.
Excellent. Clarifies a great deal.
Glad it was helpful!
First video of many, that made me finally understand their difference.
Great :)
This is really good.
I may be an INTJ (your video convinced me of this more than ever before). Just had a lunch date with an INFJ. Your assessment was spot on, brother. If we see each other again I may need to revisit your video(s) on this.
Thank you, I appreciate it! Good luck!
Watching these videos has taught me I’m an INTJ. It’s always been complicated since I thought I was an INFJ with OCD. But people have repeatedly told me I don’t read the room, and I lead with my thinking/logic.
This video is great!
Thanks so much!
Your model is far away from the childish stereotypes and well within our mundane personas' radius of convergence. I salute you for that sir. You got me in the very beginning by telling about the 'passion-driven' mindset. That's a fundamental motif to me. Now if I may, I'd like to give you a very incomplete but simple enough abstract of "who I am" via these sketchy axioms about external world, internal life and people respectively (you can consider it as a first-hand data for example, or just ignore) :
(1) Consistent connected patterns form a structure which contains an understanding of the world.
(2) Life has a purpose. It's guided by the inner calling. It speaks through passions.
(3) Finding 'The One' is a procedure consisting of: (a) being internally chosen by the guide, (b) being externally verified by careful observations and (c) being under constant internal and external evaluations to check if it's the case. Else, go to (a).
Thank you for saying this!
I appreciate the abstract too, as well as the concise layout :) This does sound highly congruent with Ni-Fi!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Yes, it is. This Ni-Fi pairing is not always pleasant though. Sometimes it's a blessing, sometimes it's a curse and both demand sacrifices. All one can do is accepting this dichotomy and grow within its boundary. Anyway, thanks again :)
This video makes so much sense! Even though I'm an INFJ, I enjoy organizing my environment (and, for the record, I *do* read instruction-manuals; although, to be fair, I have, at times, instead laid out all the parts of something, inspected them all, and then formulated a mental construct of how they fit together and simply created my own plan-of-action for assembly - which only a few times didn't turn out so well and I needed to disassemble and backtrack a bit), but... where was I? Organizing... and arranging furniture. I like things to be in categories. But I also like them to be aesthetically-attractive to an extent... A balance between function and beauty... not always the most-efficient, no... I'd be curious to see pics of INTJ spaces vs INFJ spaces, actually.
I'd also love to contrast the two different styles of abodes and see where they differ!
Hah, I relate strongly to your Te-application, and, indeed, do read instructions myself (often with a degree of reluctance!).
Cheers for your comment!
@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Yes... I've been contemplating my own own employment of Te... It doesn't come as naturally to me as for an INTJ, I think... a bit more of a drain on my energy. It makes me feel "locked in" by the parameters of the material world, and my mind feels "caged" by such activities - like, given the chance, I *will* escape from such tasks to breathe and relish in my own thoughts and perhaps watch squirrels play on the trunk of a tree. :-) But achieving anything of consequence in the material world demands that I focus my energy thus, and I take pleasure in seeing tasks to completion. I'm not sure about you (?), but it *bothers me* when a project is unfinished - like a splinter in my mind.
@@pelqel9893 Such things bother me also - I need to finish any project I've started and it irks me whenever I have to push something to the side in order to complete another. But despite this completionist nature the employment of Te in intense bursts doesn't come naturally, and would very much feel a similar need to escape thereafter.
INTJ here - that's now confirmed. Thanks, CPT. You're the best.
Perfect!
🎉 finally someone who understands how empathetic INTJs are. We are not cold. We know how you feel. We just don’t express it, unless there’s a reason to. Because we take responsibility in our expressions, outputs, anything we put out there into the universe. Love the content. ❤
Definitly INTJ and I laughed about the diagrams part haha. I'm working as peer support in mental health. I've experienced psychosis, but I've got a lot of metacognitive training. So, I was able to study how psychosis uses different datas and mix up all those into beliefs where it can influence in sad way the behaviour. In my mind, humans are programmed through life experiences and their brain will predict through what they've experienced, so in my own self development, I'm very passionated to study how it affect my life path and how to restructure everything to create a better life path. Get to know a better version of myself is like digging in a deep cave to discover gold, the real self. When I succeed in my own evolution, I create different diagrams, visual tools that support knowledges and life experience to teach them to people I help. Separating consciousness from the brain to stimulate a studying phase is more efficient in mental illness domain. I'm trying to explain this in every occasion I get to give my conference. I just think ignorance in mental health is a shame and everyone should know the structures and roots behind emotions, behaviours and events. Understanding all the mechanisms lead into better plans, solutions and mind system.
Thank you for your video, it was interesting. I was also confused sometimes between INFJ and INTJ.
I agree with most of what you have said, since I was/am like that. However, I would like to challenge one point. Many times INTJs are spiritual or religious (such as myself) demanding that they change their understanding (and awareness) of human relations and priorities. This pushed me personally as an INTJ into psychology and philosophy in order to improve my understanding of self, sin and how God wanted humans and things to orginally be. Still, I agree with most of what you have said though, and I really appreciate your insights and channel! I love listening to your explanations so please stay encouraged!!!
So helpful. 🌿
This was fantastic. I love how you talk about the unconscious functions, as I rarely hear about those. I didn't understand what the relationship with the unconscious functions was until your videos. It paints a much more holistic picture. I'm INFJ. My husband is INTJ. This helped clarify a lot of things. He cares deeply for people. Thank you for talking about the emotional depth of the INTJ. I feel like he's more genuinely kind and loving to people than I am, but is often oblivious to the some needs of people in social situations that feel like common sense to me. But he teaches himself all kinds of crazy stuff that I can't even comprehend. He's such a fast learner for how to master complicated programs and equipment. He teaches himself everything he needs to know to do what he needs to do. He's like a genius to me.
This is great to hear, thank you!
Thank you for providing a real-life example through your comment - I also know INTJs who share such emotional depth.
He sounds like an awesome human being!
This was seriously good
Awesome to hear, thanks for commenting!
I've always had a thought that Fi is programmable in a way since it's based on subjective value judgements. I test INTJ most times and a couple times I did INFJ. I relate to the notions you made of attention in both types, but not on any that are conflicting binary examples. I think that from my nurture and how I navigated my upbringing, I by default engaged with the social disorder of my environment. Having a father with a temper kept me on guard and attentive to the Fe atmosphere. At the end of the day an issue with Logical disorder rubs me the wrong way more than social disorder. My thoughts with that is you can't have proper social order and harmony if the logical aspect isn't congruent with all parties.
Back to Fi, I think that my values on logical order are intrinsically tied to the social dynamic. If I'm able to keep both stable, then I can be in the best position to "Fly under the radar". The last thing I want is to be the center of attention.
I'm proficient at hiding my emotional state like you stated a INTJ would, but also unaware at times what that exactly is like an INFJ. Time usually sorts out what the emotions are. If I try to use people, I don't get proper feedback in my opinion because what I'm showing isn't exactly everything there is to know.
I'm told I'm too Fe aware to be INTJ and that I'm INFJ. I'm still undecided. I don't want to say what I think I am until I am as certain as I could be.
Hey Peter, I present binary extremes to see which type a person gravitates towards 'more' :)
In reality there is a lot of overlap between Fe and Te as they both inform one another - you cannot have social order without a system and you cannot have efficient logical order without people working together effectively.
If you find yourself 'feeling' a prioritisation towards Te order that would be indicative of INTJ, especially when accompanied by a private nature.
If you have a 40/60 Fe to Te ratio, you would have a 60/40 Fi to Ti ratio too. This would be fairly neutral and explain why you feel you do both!
Re: emotional awareness, it does not pertain directly to knowing what an emotion is, (this requires a Ti-Fi exchange) but rather that 'I'm feeling a certain way and have to deal with it'.
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I'm dating a ENTJ and the last conversation we had on efficiency I told her that balance is efficiency. Whatever the topic.
Edit: After visiting me for a few weeks, I speculated and she agreed, that she's an ENTJ whom is introverted rather an INTJ.
@@peterdentice5725 you're definitely an INFJ. That's all... So annoying how many of you are like this...
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I don't even remember writing this.
I can't imagine what the hell I thought of that day to cause me to write that. It's very basic.
Regarding your conjecture, what is "this" referring to in "So annoying how many of you are like this. . ."
This was great
So far through all the videos I've watched from you and others I've found that I am indeed an INFJ, however I can control my expression of emotions, though that is something I have had to learn and even then I can't show fake emotion, only conceal genuine emotion. But that part about not being able to change your values is very true for me, I can play devil's advocate and make cases for things I don't agree with but I've always had the same core values my whole life with only the implementation of them changing, i.e. political party changing in the belief that it reflects my values more.
The part about novelty over efficiency is definitely true as well, I often use something in a video game because I like it or because it's unique, even if it isn't very effective. And the social harmony thing is additionally true, while I have my values and have over the years learned to stand up for them in social settings, I find social disharmony incredibly stressful, more so than most other stresses, I've never been the kind of person to laugh at people arguing over something stupid because the negative energy is so palpable it makes my body ache.
Still gonna be looking at the other type comparisons just to be sure
I used to have an INFJ student. Now I know why we usually debated, while I still favored her so much
This is creepy that you explain the way I manifest my thinking so clearly. I remember lots of my notes are diagrams, and one particular is about the book "Make It Stick." The whole book I recorded as a single picture.
I always find Ni-Fi so fascinating!
Not only I want to believe you, I actually believe you!
You and Chris (AsuraPsych) are the real Ni-Dom (INFJ-INTJ) who talk about Ni-Dom.
Cheers! Big fan of Chris :)
Whew! I had to pause the video at "amalgamations of theories they've read."
That's exactly it. I never would have been as motivated to create CPT and then share it. I would only do something like that if I feel a system is truly broken and need to start from scratch. I'm more likely to read up on all the typing theories and refine them into a system that I think functions better and hold the basic principles of the hypotheses. I think Te is more into tweaking unless starting over is needed.
As for empathy, I think it's important to differentiate between cognitive empathy and emotional/autonomic empathy. My cognitive empathy is exceptionally strong, but I lack emotional empathy. I think it's why I immediately start problem solving when an issue arises. I'm not physically moved by other people's emotions, but I'm very strong in perspective taking.
Great explanation.
Thanks!