Behringer DeepMind - Let's Build a... Generative Patch!
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2019
- At the end of last year I posted a couple of generative jams on the Behringer DeepMind. I received a number of questions about what a generative patch was and how you might go about putting one together - so that's what we're looking at today.
It's a bit of a long one, but I think we do travel to some very cool sonic areas.
Here's the Mylar Melodies video I mention in the intro: • An Intro to Making Gen...
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“Let’s try the Pulse Width Modulation, shall we?”
>Nick Batt has joined the chat room
I've heard he's a fan...
Bob Ross of Synths
You're very generous with your explanations, I really think you're doing Behringer a massive service by showing all the things this synth is capable of. Another great video, thanks!
Thank you for watching! I'm glad you found it interesting!
@@OscillatorSink I was wondering if at some point you could demonstrate different ways to utilise the Mod envelope? Unless of course you've already done that in one of your other DM6 vids?
I suspect I've done it here and there but not specifically a video on it. Pretty sure I would have used it on the Deepmind drum machine tutorial.
The obvious place to start is to use it to modulate the pitch of Osc 2 when it's being used in sync mode for that classic sync sound - but you can assign it to anything of course - I like it doing PWM to get a sound which starts thin and opens up.
And remember it can loop so you can use it as an LFO too.
@@OscillatorSink Thanks, I ask though because I find actually witnessing you do this stuff quite inspiring.
@@squareeyedgit that's very kind! I imagine that the ambient pad and drum machine tutorials will feature it for sure, but I probably used it on most of them I'd imagine, even if just for little tweaks.
Who needs a manual when one could simply enjoy such a nice and well explained tutorial. Deeply obliged!
Cannot overstate the quality of this tutorial, in every dimension. A masterpiece in the form......a proper deepening. ;)
Thank you!
Please keep putting out DeepMind videos! I just got the DM12 as my first hardware synth and it is almost overwhelming when I sit down with it. Love going though your videos and learning more about this beast.
I'll do my best! Glad you enjoy them!
I'm a bit late to this, but I followed this on my 12D last night.I learned so much as I'm very new to synths, I'm your typical 40 something year old bloke with a new hobby. This was an eye opener, and sounded so lush and trippy. Thanks👍
I'm glad you enjoyed it - I hope you're having fun with your new hobby!
This was just WONDERFUL and has me playing so much more with my Deepmind! 👌🏻
I bought a 2nd hand DeepMind 12 today, the first synth I ever bought... So, I was looking for a tutorial, and, this is great stuff. Liked & subscribed for obvious reasons!
It's been years since I first watched this, Just came back to it again. SO good dude.
Thanks for the return custom, I'm glad it lived up to how you remembered it!
it’s so interesting. ….. would love to see more of ……
I’m glad to see that the parenting has calmed down enough for you to start putting out tutorials again! This is some of the most creative stuff i’ve seen with a normal poly synth in general, let alone with a DeepMind.
Thank you! I don't know about "calmed down", but I got lucky with some naps and my wife very kindly did some solo parenting! Was nice to get "back in the saddle" so to speak though!
Thank you for giving me an idea of this way to play and construct music as my husband has brought me a deep mind six and I’m looking forward to playing it and you have made it very clear how to get wonderful sounds out of it thank you very much . I love the sounds and synthesis that you have taught us in this tutorial . I used to have a Roland Juno six and am looking forward to using a more modern way of making music .
Amazing deployment of unpredictable randomness. Formidable conduction! Thank you!
The depth of the DM6/DM12 is unreal. After having a DM12 for 3 years you are still teaching me new things about it. Thank you!
Man this tutorial was insane. I went thru it with my DeepMind12D and I was like floating in heavens. Thanks and cheers from Madrid.
coming from modular I have been searching for a polysynth to add into my process. I have been on the fence between this and something with those familiar patch points like a semimodular. My main question has been how mental can I get with the modulation on the Deepmind - you've definitely answered that question! This is a seriously deep synth and will easily be finding a home in my studio. Thank you so much for really getting into this ❤️
Yeah, they're not joking about the "Deep" part of the name! The Mod Matrix is super comprehensive, but a lot of the stuff that's usually "pre wired" can be altered from inside the menus, so you don't even have to use the Mod Matrix for a lot of things!
@@OscillatorSink that's brilliant! Again, I really appreciate you using generative patching as a way to explore this. It's much more how my brain works then some of the more standard presentations of this instrument. cheers!
FANTASTIC
Thank you!
What an amazing tutorial! Thank you so much!
Exceedingly good 👍
Another fascinating and very informative vid, thank you again
Thanks for watching!
omg, you are the bob ross of synths! thx for that guide
Thanks for watching!
12:24 reminds me a lot of Hans Joachim Roedelius' works as well as some of Cluster. Tracks like "Zum Wohl" from the Album Sowiesoso or the track "Die Bunge" from the album Cluster & Eno" :) The same kind of playfulness, positive vibes & delightfully sequenced appeal. And i LOVE that kind of sound. I've been playing with the thought of getting the Deepmind (6 or 12) myself for almost a year now but it's definitely finding its way into my instrument selection. After having sold my Korg Poly 61 years ago, it'd be nice to have an all analog Polysynth again. And not just a virtual analog one, like my Roland Gaia or Korg Microfreak.
You got me subscribed with this video. I appreciate how slowly, logically and clearly you proceed, so that it's really a pleasure to follow your thoughts flow.
Thank you for the compliment, and welcome to the channel!
Really nice man! Thanks for making it. Your voice is also nice. It reminds me to Werner Herzog voice on documentaries.
Please, continue doing this stuff. We are learning a los with u!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you learned something!
Thank you for posting this video. I have a DeepMind 12 and I sometimes run out of ideas when programming sounds. Your video inspired me to try new things and I am grateful.
Have fun exploring friend!
What I do with the Sunrizer synthesizer (app for IOS devices) is constantly exploring the capabilities using the randomize function.....it brings me new soundscapes, ideas and knowledge what is possible. I have the same with Factory (also an incredible app for IOS) with generates a lot of sculptured sounds.....Now I own the Deepmind 12 and this brings me again new inspiration. Thanks a lot for letting know the tricks.....
Nice thanks.
Great video, you've guided me into new territories of this synth!
Just followed along with the video and created the patch on my own Deepmind 6 . Very much enjoyed it as a tutorial , you manage to convey the ideas and principals really well - thanks
Just now completed this tutorial and made a Gen Patch. Learned a lot! Thank you so much once again!
I literally just ordered my Deepmind after debating between it and the Minilogue, then the first thing I see on UA-cam is this?
Hell yes! :D
Yesss! Enjoy your new synth friend!
@@OscillatorSink Thanks! It got in today, and it is so much fun! Complements my Monologue, Volca FM, and Volca Sample beautifully. I'm more than satisfied with my setup now.
Insightful sounds beautifully explained, thank you
some meditative drone like pulsating ambient sound 😅like in anugama musik 🙌
Just came across this video. Very inspiring, thank you!
What an Incredible machine & what a talent, that was so informative. Thanks for that.
Brilliant! Thanks for all the great sounds and ideas, I'm going to give them a try!
Have fun exploring!
Lovely work. Thanks a million :)
Thank you so much for taking the time to create such an awesome tutorial, I learnt so much about the Dm12 and just totally enjoyed your whole teaching style and personality
And thank you for watching!
You’ve just made my day....overwhelmed with what my 12D is capable of, and you’ve just shown it off beautifully. Amazing stuff - please do more on this incredible machine. Just realised this was all done on a 6 too 👏🏻..blimey!!
If you haven't seen the video where I turn it into a drum machine... Well I think you'd enjoy it!
Hi I'm jg. Iam going to buy. A berginer it is a brillent symth
Yes it's a pretty good synth for beginners, it has a lot of depth but all of the main controls are on the front panel which helps. I'd also look at something like the Korg Minilogue.
Great tutorial.. and generous explanation .. i learned lot for operating DM synth..
Really pleased that you enjoyed it.
Super!
Thanks so much for this, I love the melodies that can come out from generative patches. Still discovering the world of synths, but now I can't stop to try transforming the presets of the lovely DeepMind6 in generative patches! I'm enjoying the results a lot : )
Super usfeul tutorials much appreciated!
Yesss! Have fun exploring! It's super cool that the Deepmind is so well suited to it 🙂
This is the kind of stuff I love. Very inspiring.
Really pleased you enjoyed it!
Please no more sorrys... great Job! Thak you so much!
incredible ;)
Excellent post! You know, I can spend hours just tinkering with the FX modulation with a simple arpegiated chord running. This is a FUN synth with very rewarding output!
wow, very big... not sure it would sit in a mix well but great for cinematic stuff.... keep the vids coming they are great for ideas and general architecture knowledge…. big thumbs up !!!!!
your videos are so helpful and well done, thank you.
Thank you for checking them out!
I purchased a DM6 because of this video. When the camera changed angle at 31:36 it helped immensely to see the settings! Thanks for some cracking videos!
Enjoy your new synth! Was the cut out of the screen in the corner not clear for you? It's from that same camera so should have been as readable?
@@OscillatorSink sorry, I meant a different time, comment now edited 😀. I couldn't quite get the same sounds as you, but seeing the settings from above helped.
Great Tutorial, I learned a lot of information that I will surely put into practice. Thank you for making this.
That's great to hear!
Modular on a budget
love getting lost in sounds
this is the single most incredible tutorial i have ever seen in my entire f***ing life. thank you very much.
High praise! Thank you so much!
An engaging tutorial. Thank you very much.
Thank you for watching!
Great stuff!
Thank you!
Hi ! I've bought a deepmind 12 2 weeks ago, and I work on different tutorials on YT since. This video is very very interesting, I've spend hours working on that kind of SGP (Self Generative Patch). Thank you very very much "Oscillator Sink", because you're teaching me a lot !
This synth is absolutely amazing...
Thanks !
I'm really glad you liked the video. I think the Deepmind really comes to kids when you really start pushing what's possible with the modulation.
These videos have been by far the most instructive I've seen on this instrument and have definitely sold me on it. Purchasing one today! I fear my friends will miss me! Any chance you could tackle creating a string machine sort of patch in a video?
Thank you, I'm glad that you enjoyed it and I hope you enjoy your new synth! A few people have mentioned string machines so I'll add it to my list - but as I've just got a Digitakt, you might have to wait a while!!
My deepmind is arriving next week and this is some inspiring stuff. Would love to see more of this or something similar being done with the deepmind.
Hey thanks! If you like to see the Deepmind pushed to new places you might enjoy this video: ua-cam.com/video/Cela5PsXYXA/v-deo.html
And I hope you enjoy your new synth!
I got the DeepMind based on your tutorials. And just when I thought that I understand it, now I feel like I have a new synth!
Well - I hope you enjoy your "new" synth then!
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this video - fascinating stuff. Have watched it once & now looking froward to sitting down with my DM6 to watch again & create some aural randomness/chaos of my own! Really learning a lot from your tutorials about synthesis.
You're very welcome - I hope you come up with your own cool sounds!
Superb tutorial. Kinda leaves me thinking.... what kind of can of delicious worms have I opened up in buying a Deepmind 6....?! 😍😬
This is awesome! Going to try this tonight on my Deep Mind 12
Thank you! Have fun with it!
Great stuff! I went with the 6 over the 12 in large part due to your videos as they showed me just how complete the 6 is as it’s own instrument. 6 extra voices would be nice, but there’s plenty to be getting on with in the 6, and to me it just looks more aesthetically pleasing.
It is a pretty handsome looking thing isn't it? Glad you're enjoying it!
Nice I love this synth my nex synth
Nice! Hope you enjoy it!
Great tutorial 😊
Reverb into distortion sounds so good!!
It sure does! The shoegaze special.
@@OscillatorSink It made me think of some Kevin Shields stuff right away! Thanks again for all your videos. I learned so much from this and really enjoyed your patch at the end of it. You're a great teacher and your love and enthusiasm really makes it all that much more enjoyable. Keep it up my friend.
Is there a way to make this patch more ambient and "sweeping"/droning? I love the randomness! Your vids on the DM are absolute gold! Thank you so much!
Edit: adjusted attack/sustain/release and got a little closer to what I was aiming for! Any other tips would certainly be appreciated tho!
Yeah, you've made some good moves there! I'd maybe address the effects section - lengthen that reverb, make the delay darker and up the feedback.
Generally go for longer and slower, so you can make the envelopes much slower as you've done, but you can push that change harder if you slow down the two LFOs so they don't trigger so often - that'll also give you space to really push the effects.
One other thing to look at - if you look on my channel for the video where I build an Ambient pad on the Deepmind - there's probably ideas you can steal from there and combine into this patch; especially the way I set up the reverb on that patch.
Glad you're having fun with the patch and exploring how you can make it your own! Exactly what I hope people will do with these tutorials 😊
lovely
Thank you!
ah man wow I didn't realise you could do such interesting stuff with the DM
There's a lot to explore on this synth - almost too much maybe, which is why people sometimes miss things!
It would be so cool if you could make a MicroKorg version of this.
So informative and high quality! Sub'd!
Thank you, welcome to the channel!
Your timing is perfect I suppose - just right when I’m waiting for my local music shop to re-stock the DM12s (should happen on Tuesday, can’t wait!)
Weee! Tuesday can't come soon enough! I hope you enjoy your new synth!
I got all excited about the Minilogue XD, but for the same price, this seems like it might still be better... all those modulation and FX routing options! (running reverb into distortion is my favourite :D)
Perhaps they'll release a distorted reverb algo for the effects engine on the XD? We're kinda spoiled for choice on analogue polys in 2019. Who'd have predicted that?
annnd...subscribed. I just learned alot about my synth while enjoying the sounds
Welcome to the channel friend!
1) I'd like to try this on a Deepmind 12D if I can get one.
2) I'd like to try this in UVI Falcon as it has unlimited modulation sources and destinations.
3) I'd like to thank you for making all those awesome videos.
1) yes
2) also yes
3) you are very welcome!
The Bob Ross of sound design
Generative patches are literally all about happy little accidents.
Nailed it.
This is a fantastic video and I love the idea of generative patching on the DM12. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
I am fairly new to hardware but am really quite interested in the generative type stuff that one usually finds in the eurorack domain. While Im not quite ready or able to jump into eurorack just yet, do you think the generative possibilities of the DM12d are deep/comprehensive enough to satiate my curiousities for now? Thanks in advance for any input.
I would say that once you learn what elements don't need to be "patched" via the Mod Matrix, you have a huge number of potential connections you can make. The modulation options are huge and I don't even touch on the arpeggiator or control sequencer here in this video. 4 FX slots with multiple routings including feed back... If you're willing to dig in, I think you'll find lots to explore!
@@OscillatorSink Thank you for your response. I had originally been wrestling with either purchasing the DM12d or a Soma Labs Lyra-8 - and I know that seems like a hugely odd choice to wrestle with as they are completely different beasts and most people go into gear purchases knowing what they need or what hole they are trying to fill in their setup. For myself though, as far as hardware goes, I currently only own a Deluge and an Organelle, and was just looking for something fun to expand into - no real clear direction besides liking the Juno'ish sound of the DM and after seeing your video, the generative aspects of it, and then of course the beautiful experimental choas of the Lyra-8. After your reply, I think I can safely say that I'll be purchasing the DM12d - if only because I think it will be more flexible for the time being. Thanks again for your input and I really love your channel! Blessings!
Deepmind is a fine synth, minilogue xd as well. Both are fine synths in their own way. Gotta love them both.
Equal opportunity synth love ❤️
i'm looking into the minilogue xd to go with my deepmind. Would you say then that the minilogue sounds different enough to be worth getting? thanks so much ! also the ms20 mini looks really nice
I'd say so, they can cover some of the same ground, but they have pretty different vibes.
Of course, if you were in that kind of budget, you could also be considering, for example, a couple of Neutrons which obviously is a very different proposition, but they can be polychained, played paraphonically, have that vibey delay and, if course, you have the semi modular element to them, so if you're into more... esoteric sounds, they might scratch that itch.
I'm not recommending that idea above the XD if what you want is a polysynth, but just putting an interesting idea out there 😉
Thanks for explaining your way, but I didn't understand anything. Now I listento that patch more than an hour and there is no end :) ... it goes deeper and deeper - the sound tells itself a story with an absolutely uncertain outcome.
I already wanted to give up the DP because I don't really like the sound and I just don't understand anything, but after this patch ....?!
Excellent tutorial on creating a generative effect on the Deepmind.
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Just made this on my 12 my god how you are able to get it to sound like that is amazing.
Yeah this is a fun patch - lots of ways you can vary and re-apply these ideas too. I did a Jamuary performance this year which took a different approach to these ideas (and used the control sequencer for even more fun)
🎹🎶😮
a lot you can do with this one
You've just got to explore!
I think the Midas team that designed this is working on the new CS80 inspired synth.
Let's hope so!
Dude. Great video. I have TWO Deepmind 12Ds!
Then I bet you're about to make a *really* weird patch! I bet it would sound amazing to set up two different generative patches and send the same notes to both!
Is there a way that a sequence from saaaay a keystep could send note on to an arp so the arp continues to change over the course of a sequence?
I haven't been able to .
Great content! Have you had trouble with the deepmind noise floor / 60hz ringing? Wanting to solve my only problem with an otherwise great keyboard.
Thank you.
Not that I've noticed (or that has bothered me enough to notice).
If you use the same outlet as your monitor/mixer / amplifier, you can have a ground loop.
I would be interested in seeing something like the DP12 and OpSix, both using generative patches, being controlled by the NDLR. I post this here because I don't think there's anyone on YT who could pull it off. No flattery, you just seem to be dialed into this stuff in a way I haven't seen elsewhere.
Thank you! I think you could drift off into space forever with those three together!
@@OscillatorSink I agree and I suspect all your subscribers will happily drift along with you.
Surely, the only reason this series of vids are being down-voted is because they're so gripping that watching them prevents one from making music preferring instead to watch someone else do it.
Emergent music ... Love it! Instant Eno or Instant Aphex or Stockhausen’s Ghost ???
You have to keep exploring to see who is hidden in the patch!
Oscillator Sink 😃
I am not even sure you will see this but I am seriously thinking about getting the Deep 6 and I enjoy you tutorial videos on how to build a sound.. I was a wondering if you could do a video on how to build a Classic Hammond ‘ Smoke on the water Deep Purple’ sounding rock organ?
I don't know that I'll be doing any more Deepmind videos any time soon, but you might want to check out the video I did on making an organ patch on the Monologue - different synth, of course, but the techniques would be similar. I will, I imagine, do an organ video for the Opsix though - which is also probably a much better tool for the job.
Does the DM6 sound as thin in the studio as all the Ytube videos? i love the big sounds of Roland JP8000 and the Korg MS2000.... does it compare? might be apples and oranges but I love the the functionality of the DM synths but sound is everything...
If the video is recorded properly it sounds like it sounds like really. Its very versatile, but if you've listened to lots of demos and you don't like the sound, then you don't like the sound. Make sure you check out plenty of demos where 3rd party patches are being used though, as I know people often don't get on with the factory presets. Myself and Geosynths have both put out multiple packs and have demos on our channels.
Jumped in with DM6... If they are good enough for Nial Hone...
Ooooo this is EXCITING! Thank you, although its going to test my brain cell😉
Remember to take regular breaks so you don't damage it!
@@OscillatorSink 😂😂😂 Good idea seems useful must try and keep it alive😬😂😂
I want to get into synth. Would you say this is a good place to start? Or should I buy a couple other of their synths/Modules that are coming out such as the Model D or Neutron or Ms-101 or any other
I have tons of knowledge with guitar keys and whatnot. Just never had a real outboard synth
If you wanted a polysynth the Deepmind is a great place to start. Very deep and comprehensive synthesis but you can still start creating and understanding patches all from the front panel.
So want this synth. Sadly it requires money.
Thanks for this tutorial, you make me save $2K 🍻🍻🍻
Question: with the amount of FX that deepmind12 offers, can you think of a reason that someone would need a external FX pedal?
Good question. I'd say yes - but only if you had a specific need, required more hands on control or you had an issue with the particular tone of the built in effects .
The built in effects give you all of the generic and some esoteric effects, and then you can do crazy stuff with routing. As an example though, if I wanted a really glitchy effect, granular looping kind of thing, I'm not getting it from the Deepmind. The Deepmind doesn't give me a great spring reverb sound, so I'd want something external for that. If I wanted to perform with a lot of real-time tweaking of mutipl effects parameters, I'd want something external for that too.
But like I say, those are specific requirements, and most of the time the built in effects will make you very happy indeed!
Hi,
Did You try connect Beatstep with Deepmind?
It is work together?
As a controller? Yes, but each sequencer in the Beatstep Pro is monophonic so you're not sequencing chords. Something like the Digitone or even the keystep would make more sense as a sequencer.
Looking forward to selling my guitar to buy this synth. Is the deepmind 12 worth the extra money for a synth/key beginner?
That really depends on whether you think the 6 notes of polyphony is limiting to you. Personally, if you can afford it and you've got the space I'd go for it - I don't regret getting the 6, but the extra 6 voices of polyphony wouldn't go to waste if I had them. I think the desktop version is the best deal if you already have a controller keyboard you like.
Have you had any experience with glitches in the Program Browse menu? Wondering if I should return the unit or overlook it....
What sort of glitches? Nothing I can think of.. Are you running the latest firmware?