Behringer DeepMind Tricks - Awesome Audio-Rate LFOs
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Welcome back Deepminders to a new episode in the series where we are exploring tips and tricks on the Behringer DeepMind. In this video we ask the question - when is an LFO not an LFO - and in which case, what cool things can you do with it?!
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That is absolutely the best description of modulation. I thought I was explaining it simply before (which I was an lots of people have understood it) but that was magic.
Instant sub.
Bought my Deepmind 6 at the weekend. Mainly based on these brilliant videos! Please keep them coming.
Awesome news! Enjoy the hell out of it!
I love how you explain synthesis. As a beginner I really appreciate these videos. Thanks.
Hey thanks for watching, and welcome to the wonderful world of synthesis!
Terrific how you start with the audio rate modulation not to bring about agro, metallic FM tones, but to show its capabilities as a kind of tonal 'thickener' before bringing the FM ruckus (3:33 - YEAH!!). I've never seen that before. An excellent illustration of the deep musical range of that kind of modulation and another extremely informative post. You really know your way around your synths - hats off.
Thank you, and I'm glad I could open your eyes to a "gentler" audio rate use!
Have my deepmind 12 coming any minute now, videos like these will be an invaluable resource I can see. Thanks so much!
You’re amazing for teaching these synth tips! Thank you! Love them lots. Keep em coming!
This is a great video. I really appreciate how you have your voice gated over the sound
Another very educational video... learning a lot about basics like LFOs, envelopes (previous video)... thanks!
Very nice LFO on this machine!
Received my DM 12 last week and came across your videos which are a great source of programming education for me. Thank you for your teachings :)
Cheers! I hope you're enjoying your new synth!
@@OscillatorSink Amazing tnx.
This is about the 3rd or 4th of your Deepmind-videos I've seen and I have to say they are all excellent and inspiring!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you're enjoying them!
You are putting out some really great stuff here! Stuff that we probably couldn't find in the manual! Stuff that is only implied. Thanks for all the useful insights. I've had my deepmind for a while now but just haven't had a chance to sit down with it like you have. Now that I have been watching your videos I keep it close at hand and turn it on and go through some of the steps that you outline and then even try to take it a little further on my own. It's looking like the mod Matrix is going to be a very important part of learning how to coax things out of this instrument. Never really had a synth that had a mod Matrix on it. I can see how this can be very powerful. Thanks again. Keep all the good videos coming.
Really glad my videos are helping you to dig down deeper into the synth. May you find many cool sounds!
There seems to be an unprecedented level of experimentation possible here with the deepmind 12. It’s my first poly, and I’m always floored every time I browse through the menus.
You sold me a deepmind 6. Got it for about a week and totaly love it. Keep up the good work!
Yesss! Enjoy your new synth!
I could listen to you talk forever. What a great video/tutorial!
Awwww! You're going to make me blush! Thanks so much for watching!
Just incredible what you are doing there. Amazing.
Thank you!
Great great tipp, thank you !!
So informative! Thank you!
Thx so much for your enthusiasm and teaching!!!!🙂
Thank you for watching!
Me at 8:20 - "Wait, does that mean you can do crude FM synthesis on the Deepmind?"
At 11:06 - "Yup, I guess so"
Very neat trick, only just saw this video. Nice one.
Your awesome! Cant wait to work with you! Lets see where we can take our ideas!
I love the way you explain ❤️
Thank you!
Loving these videos! I don’t think I’ve ever seen an audio rate LFO cause the filter to make a tone of its own, let alone tracking that tone to the keyboard! How cool is that?! I had a DM12 when they came out and ended up letting it go. Been missing it ever since and I just ordered a DM6 which should be here Monday. Can’t wait to put this to use! Thanks and keep up the great work! 👍
Enjoy your new synth! Hope it arrived on time!
Got my DM12 a few days ago and love it.Amazing synth.The new DM12s come with the same mod/pitch wheels as on DM6,nice touch.
Enjoy the heck out of your new synth!
I pulled the trigger on the DM12 today,i hope won't be disapointed.I have already a few digital synths like microKORG,JD Xi,D05,Reface DX,CS and CP ,TB03 and a few analog mono synths-Minitaur,Sub Phatty and Behringer Model D to cover all my bass needs,so this will be my first poly analog synth.I will use it mainly for pads and strings.So fingers crossed.
So cool!! Thx!!!
Hello, thank you.
The User Guide indicates that using the Mod Matrix, the LFO Rate can be pushed up to 1280 Hz !
Sick stuff i will try it out.
This is really good stuff. I don't subscribe to many channels, but this one I gots to.
Welcome to the channel, friend!
This is awesome!!
Thanks Ben!
something else to try on my new 12D, not that I ain`t pleased with it already. Keep up the good work, cheers
Have fun with it!
I don't own a DeepMind, but I've still found this video very interesting! Thanks!
That's great! A lot of the ideas that I present in videos about specific synths can often be transported to most other synths so hopefully they're useful for a lot of folks!
Yeah totally. I find it really good to see\hear some tricks and tips about other synths and then trying to implement them in the synths that are available. It's a great way, as funny as it sounds, to get to know your synths better... Cheers!
Thanks !! 😊
You're welcome!
Kool trick!!
Very good video and example !
U like ur Stuff !
Cheers from berlin
Cheers MONO!
Nice nice :)
A great thing of the DM lfo's is, with the modmatrix the speed of go up to max 1280 hz...(oO) thats realy high for a analog synth...i Love my dm6 ;)
Cheers
Awesome! Il try to replicate this with soft synths (until I get my hands on a hardware one...).
NICE!
Very nice vid and explorations! It is so weird that the filter’s flattering produces a sound. It should produce nothing when there is nothing to filter electronically, though it acts as if it imitates a physical mouth: a mouth needs a vocal chord vibration in terms to apply vowel-filter to it but if a mouth starts to shift its shape, let’s say, from “a” to “o” vowel in a tremendous speed, it will indeed push and pull some air (due to the difference of air volume in mouth for each vowel) and this will translate as an audible sound! Weird cool.
"Weird cool" is what I aim for.
You are the master
Haha, nah, I'm a humble slave to the synth!
Now combine this with the Mood Filter of the effects section and you'll get a whole new synthesizer.
What does the mood filter do?
Digital multimode filter, with modulation.
Oscillator Sink any sounds examples of this type of filter?
You are awesome!!!! Better than my degree😆😉😉😇thank you so much😊
No, thank you for being so kind! Really glad you find my stuff useful!
Oscillator Sink yeah is good education ..and you live set was good😉 nah please more you're live with rappers and your videos are helping us all AND I MEAN YOUR A STAR AND WE ARE ALL THANKFULL, i dont have patriots account😕but will do soon😉 AND GO LIVE, SOUNDED LIKE JELLIN?
subscribed!
Hey, thank you and welcome to the channel :D
This may sound like a silly question but I’m completely new to synthesizers lol. Does the sound come out of the synthesizer itself - as in are there speakers built in - or does it have to be connected separately to a speaker?
There aren't any speakers on this synth - that's fairly rare, so you'd need to plug in headphones, or hook it up to some other speakers.
Audio-Rate modulation of the flanger freq in fx section, can it produce kauplus-string tones?
Not tried that, but I don't think that you can get it to scale the rate control in the right way even if it did...
If you assign Mod wheel as the modulator and LFO1 or LFO2 rate as the destination with maximum modulation in the matrix, when you turn the mod wheel all the way up does the LFO extend to the same audio range that it does when you did this trick with note number?
Off the top of my head it should do yes. I don't know if I've tried it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work!
I got a Deepmind and I can confirm this works. You set the LFO rate slider to the highest rate or thereabouts (to offset the overall speed higher), then route the modwheel to LFO rate at full depth. You can then you use the modwheel to set the LFO at way higher audio rate speeds, without having to rely on Note # as a modulation source. This opens up a lot of possibilities, I was getting all kinds of crazy sounds out of it. I'd imagine you could do the same trick with the expression pedal, and then have cascading audio rate modulations!! (LFO1 -> LFO2 -> OSC's or VCF Freq). I find I like modulating the filter at full resonance with the audio rate LFO the most pleasing sound. Once you start using the mod envelope in conjuction and other stuff the possibilities are endless. You can also somewhat get some AM sounds by modulating the VCA with an audio rate LFO and sending an oscillator through it.
Awesome, thanks for the update and I hope you enjoy your new synth!
since this is the most recent Deepmind 6 video, I ask my question here: why did you choose the DeepMind 6 over the 12?
Sure - mostly it was cheaper, secondly it was smaller!
yeah, I guessed that. especially the size is very intriguing. But I am still wondering if I may need another 6 voices... or not. I can hardly weight the pros and cons, but it looks like a great choice as mid-budget beginner synth.
My advice is: go for the 12 if you want to/ can spend the money. The 6 is plenty until you start stacking voices - if you're a proper keyboard player you might then find you're running out of polyphony.
get in an online chat with AMS and they'll knock it down to $740 New, you may need the extra voices & extra keys when you're playing/sound designing polyphonically...
thank you!! //heart emoticon//
And thank you!
I'm considering buying a DM. Wait and save for the 12, 12D or the 6? Would I really miss the 6 notes of polyphony? I think I would miss the additional octave. You obviously don't have an issue with it. I will play pop and rock hits from the 80s-90s and some recent stuff as well.
If you are a keyboardist, either go for the 12, or the 12D with the controller keyboard of your choice. For my part, I'm not a great keyboard player so the money saved outweighed the requirement for more polyphony!
No, I starting out and just learned how to spell MIDI. I've played guitar and bass for a while now. Synth is the next part of the journey. I'm loving it so far with Arturia V collection and a minibrute. DM12 is big on my wish list.
Well, I hope you enjoy your journey!
Same here.First I started buying guitars,then pedals,then moved to basses,then audio equipment,then moved to synths,drum machines,monitor speakers,headphones,plugins,microphones jeeez it looked like it will never end.But soon,very soon I'm ending this journey.One more year left for me to finish all my g.a.s list and I'm done.I will have everything I need and will immerse finally in peace and will devote to make music,rather than to be buying stuff all the time.Man,one needs to know ,when to stop,otherwise he will never see himself with money.I really saw that I have a lot of stuff and I need to start using it.G.A.S is a serious sickness,an obsession,that people seem not to pay so much attention,it's passion ,hobby ect.But it's a disease.
Hi! Simple question: How does it exactly works the Rate in LFO 2 in H-47 patch "Pad Chopper"? It sounds like a strange pattern, like a morse code. I don't know how to set up the LFO in order to do this "ramdon" way.
Thanks!
I don't have my Deepmind set up at the moment, but if the LFO speed seems random or is changing then the LFO rate is probably being modulated by the other LFO or an envelope - check the Mod Matrix.
I do similar things, albeit more slowly in this video:
ua-cam.com/video/r_p5JBAWUTs/v-deo.html
Is Noise can be a shape / source for modulation ?
No, sadly.
Is there any thing this synth can't do??
could one make a patch like a rhodes piano??
Yeah, you can do the kind of "e-piano" vibe; of course it's never going to be totally convincing, but once you get some effects on it, it would do in a pinch.
I’m sure many will disagree but I’m came so close to buying a Novation Peak and was looking at the Access Virus. I bought this instead and am happy with it. I can’t say what I’m missing from the Peak or Virus but the DeepMind can do plenty.
What most if not all will agree with me is that many many of these synths are way overpriced. In essence I bought something at about half the price and it does the job.
Behringer Poly D vs Minilogue XD: who wins?
Minilogue XD is a far more complete and versatile synth vs the Poly D, so in most cases I'd say that. But if you want the sound of a paraphonic Moog style synth then the Poly D will do that one thing better.
Great job taking everyone through the LFO and getting up into the patch you made.
This is a bit more rough and ready but I did a video on this a while ago looking at DCO FM with the audio rate and pitch tracking LFOs. Somehow the video and audio ended up out of sync but it's here if anyone wants to check it out. - ua-cam.com/video/r76iAxt9tOI/v-deo.html
Cheers and thanks for checking out the video (I'm a big fan!)
If you own a Behringer DeepMind 12 or 6 I re-created the original factory presets of a Juno-106 that you can load into it!
Here's the link to a video where you can hear them and the download link is in the bio!
ua-cam.com/video/kLCo1tTiVjc/v-deo.html
Really can't make my mind up, this or minilogue XD for my first synth? any help welcome!
If you want to get really deep into sound design, the Deepmind is a good bet, it also has more voices of polyphony. That said, the Minilogue XD has those digital oscillators and is super hands on (and sounds great).
So do you want something more immediate? Then the Minilogue, if you want something very tweakable and deep, then the Deepmind might be better.
@@OscillatorSink Thanks a lot. I'd like something good for ambient type stuff. I like the sound of the deep mind but i'd imagine the Minilogue XD is mabye better for a noob? It's a hard call!
@@niloben659 go watch some more videos of the XD, I think it does ambient really well. But I'd also say that the Deepmind isn't hard to get started on - there's just loads to dig into as you learn (and if you want to learn).
@@OscillatorSink Thanks for the advice. I'm sure either one will be a great starting point.
For some reason.I couldn't make it work on 12D. Must have missed some step in programing.
I think you gotta turn the resonance up.
Turns out you don’t! This is very fun to play with, I have a keyed 12 and as long as note number is set to an lfos rate, and that lfos rate slider is turned all the way up, and turn the lfo slider in the filter all the way up you should have a sound. Resonance is actually not needed for this!
Please don't stop......
Stop what? Audio rate modulation? I'll never stop that.
Cyclic fashion..moves it up n down
cyclic
ˈsʌɪklɪk,ˈsɪklɪk
adjective
1.
occurring in cycles; regularly repeated.
So strictly speaking moves it up n down n up n down n up n down n up n down n *echos off into the distance*
The LFO on the other hand
Ober the top!
sorry
I copied everything that You explained and nothing, can You do it from a SCRATCH ? Meaby I missed something :(
This is from scratch on an Initialised Patch. Make sure you're changing the rate of the right LFO - in the initialised patch that's LFO 1 for the pitch and LFO 2 for the filter.
Oh and make sure you're turning up the filter LFO amount, otherwise you won't hear anything.
@@OscillatorSink Yep, everything looks this same, of cours LFO2 routed , still nothing
@@piotrdamse6547 LFO 2 running at audio rate? Filter LFO depth set high? Have you tried moving the cut off and resonance on the filter?
Only when I moove in VCF RES up to end I have Hi frequency, everything else nothing