What is Primitive Baptist Universalism?
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- A quick look at the history and beliefs of the Primitive Baptist Universalists
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As a Quaker, seeing the word 'Meetinghouse' made me feel instantly comfortable.
Hearing the rest made my heart weep with joy.
I love this. I went to a primitive baptist church that was very conservitive when i was eighteen. I was happy there for the fellowship but i feel drawn to this. gosh I wish i could find a church like this here where i live.
"God is the Father of all... and if He would lose anything a part of Himself, He'd be losing His self." There is no truer theology than this. This is the love of the Father.
I totally agree with this! God is FULLY sovereign and FULLY love. James 4:15 "Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and do this or that.”
If something is not lost, for it can't be lost, then why going after it? Makes completely no sense at all. Even Jesus said he only came to save the lost (Luke 19:10).
How is it that God created men in the image of him that it can't be lost/separated?
Isn't that exactly what makes God's love real love that we can be separated just as we can choose to love back (being human with free will to choose as opposed to robots) ?
@@markus4979 you're confusing can't with won't
We need more church bodies / congregations such as those in this video telling the biblical truth of the Victorious Gospel aka the Blessed Hope. Will pray for more laborers to plant churches of the like that spread actual good news (Luke 10:2)
If you don't see it then you got to be it
There is a serious and pervasive agenda against Universalism. It's the reason that Carlton Pearson isn't a household name.
Greetings from the Rocky Mountain foothills. Y'all are my brothers and sisters. Thank you for sharing your perspective and what you believe.
I love this. I wish that church was closer to me. I would attend. Grace and Peace to them!
So far, Christian Universalists always strike me as humble laid back people.
Also deeply heretical and ironically denies MASSIVE amounts of scriptures.
That's assuming they believe in scripture to begin with lol.
@@ChocolateHabanero22What scriptures do they deny? And then you're little UA-cam or keyboard. Dude, what do you talk about you? Have something to say
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Not true. The scriptures you would say they deny, I would say you misunderstand due to lack of historical or cultural insight as well as poor understanding of the original Greek and Hebrew text, etc. The Westernization of the Bible has done such a huge disservice to the gospel of Christ.
@@ChocolateHabanero22 Um, didn't they say they believed in one sovereign God over all of us? Aren't the Scriptures the Word of God? They even quote scripture in the video at the 4:15 mark, with an open Bible for a visual.
This was refreshingly simple, yet profoundly uplifting. I recall reading the 19th century Baptist Samuel Cox's "Salvator Mundi" years ago, and thinking how much bigger His God was compared to the God of mainline thinking. God draws close to us when we draw close to Him, but which God is the easier to draw close to? The one who is proleptical Father of his entire creation - essentially the good shepherd who unrelentingly seeks out the one lost sheep (Luke 15) - or the one who commits the bulk of his creation to wretchedness and sin without end? Thank you!
I sure didn't expect to hear sane, more liberal viewpoints being expressed here. I had to watch because I wondered how 'Primitive Baptists' and 'Universalists' ideologies would ever combine. This sounds like a church I wouldn't mind attending.
I feel like I would be very happy in this Chruch. Their good new is really trully good.
Yes, yes, yes! Baptist in the 17th and 18th century were the power behind freedom of religion. Back then, even in America, they faced folks who freely used the government laws against them. When you go from minority to majority your theology of government ought not change.
Isaiah 42:6 I, the LORD, have called You for a righteous purpose, and I will take hold of Your hand. I will keep You and appoint You to be a covenant for the people and a light to the nations, 7 to open the eyes of the blind, to bring prisoners out of the dungeon and those sitting in darkness out from the prison house. Luke 2:30-31 "For my eyes have seen Your salvation, which You have prepared for all people." Luke 2:32 "He is a light to reveal God to the nations, and He is the glory of Your people Israel!”
It's offered to all - and most reject it. That's the entire point of scripture - we've been given salvation if we will accept it/Jesus.
@@wretchedsinnerRighteousSaviorNo one scripture, is it called an offer? Please don't keep reporting the same lie decade after decade
@@franciscafazzo3460 I suppose Jesus was lying when He said the path to eternal life is long and narrow and few there be that find it. Or when He said he would baptize people with fire and destroy them like chaff where the worms never die and the flames never end
Tanks for a nice video! I'm a bit surprised, however, by how you explain the term 'Primitive'. I agree that freedom of thought is important, but as I would've understood it, 'Primitive' refers to specific theological doctrines held by early baptists, Justification from Eternity/Justification by Christ Alone and related ideas in particular? But perhaps this would be to 'technical' to bring up in an introduction...
I thought they meant primitive Christianity. 1st century church stuff as they understood it.
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 As the preacher in the video explains, "primitive" is a reference to "original" beliefs, the ones that existed at the very beginning.
When you become so hypercalvinistic it wraps back around...
I'm a Christian Universalist, but disagree with much of what is asserted here. Most of Scripture is to be taken literally if it is rightly divided. Hell is for an age, not for punishment but for correction and purification. All are not save already but those who embrace that it is through faith and acknowledgement of Jesus' death and resurrection on our behalf as the propitiation for our sin. Those who die lacking this belief will go through God's correction and the process of burning away our hearts of darkness and leading us into the light of his love. Then and only then are they saved and welcomed into Glory and fellowship with their Creator who draws ALL things to himself.
People who keep talking about hell all the time get that word from Reading their toxic Bibles if you read the true Hebrew and Greek you won't find that word from cover to cover also if God had created such a terrible place, he surely would have mentioned it to folks in the beginning, but not a word to Adam and Eve not a word Abraham Isaac and Jacob, not even a hint to Moses the law-giver over four thousand years and not one hint, of it, surely God would not keep people in the dark all of those years, the truth is is to be found nowhere in his word, hell in these toxic Bibles it's not even a translation, just a plain out substitution, Gehenna is a place, a person a place or a thing as a noun, Gehenna should be translated Gehenna. Example,. How would you translate Jerusalem from Greek to English? Jerusalem of course,. He'll came to Us by way of the Latin Vulgate, And Augustine who insisted that the Catholic Church teach an eternal hell as doctrine Augustine himself said we told these people what we knew to be lies , it was the only way to keep the masses in line. This is where your hellcomes from you did not receive it from God you received it from man hell is hel. She is the Norse pagan goddess of the underworld and did not belong in the scriptures, she is purely pagan myth, and that is what she prefers to be, if she were real, she would not like what we have done with her name.
Hey brother do you think those who believe kn eternal conscious torment are saved?
That's what I've always said in all my other text s Jesus said every man will be salted with fire, purified, Paul taught the same thing in 1st Corinthians 3 11 through 15, every Man's work will be tried by the fire to see what sort of work it is in if your works are burned up, you will suffer loss, but in the end you will be saved. And remember Peter said, that this judgment begins with the house of God.
@@JTomas96I believe in it because it's what the Bible teaches - perfect example is the rich man & Lazarus story - he was conscious, could remember his life, knew he'd never get out, had no hope, said he was tormented. Take the Bible literally - take it allegorically at your detriment
@@wretchedsinnerRighteousSavior You don't know the original words Olam/Aion don't mean unending or eternal therefore you are confused.
You also don't understand fire is just a parable for hardships and tests which helps to give salt to the one being refined. Parafrasing:
"...For everyone shall be salted by fire, have salt and have peace one with another..."Mk9
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This is one of the most important topics worth studying in the bible. You must study it before calling God a monster, there is no mention of everlasting damnation also in the whole OT and you are telling me that madness. You are confused.
So you think fire is useless? --->
My determination is to gather the nations To My assembly of kingdoms, To pour on them My indignation, All My fierce anger; All the earth shall be devoured With the fire of My jealousy.
9“FOR THEN I will restore to the peoples a pure language, That they all may call on the name of the Lord, To serve Him with one accord."Zeph 3:8-9
So you are telling me people burning will seve the Lord???
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"and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross."Col1:20
"that in the dispensation of the fullness of the times He might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth-in Him"Eph 1:10
The Gospel means God saved all, but some men He saved through fire:
"...the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe"1Tim4:10
"And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world."1Jn2:2
Jeez, I did not know there were still Christians left.
They get mad because it denies their self Righteousness!!!
I would like to know What the Primitive Baptists Universalists really believe . Do they believe in a Last day Gathering up ? Maybe they don't call it the rapture , but the word "Harpazo " to be snatched up is in the scriptures. That Jesus said he would come back for his own and the dead in CHRIST Shall rise first and those that are alive and remain will also be caught up and so shall they ever be with the Lord . It also says the Angels /Messengers of God take out all that offend . ( 1 Thes.4:16-17 , Matt. 13:41 ) So not all seem to go back with the Lord. I am assuming those people go into a sort of refiners fire. Also, were is an Ohio branch of this church located ? Thank you .
This isn't Primitive Baptist at all.. Hell is a real place and there absolutely is scripture that says there is a rapture..
This is Primitive Baptist, Hell is a "real" place just not a literal place. And the word rapture is not in the KJV bible.
@@paddyr489neither is the trinity - it's called the Godhead - just like the rapture is called the catching away - the Latin word is rapturo and Greek is harpatzo - there are 7 mentions of that word in the Bible - Elijah, Philip in Acts 8, Paul in 1 Corinthians 15 & 1 & 2 thessalonians
Do you Brethren Believe
In A Change at The Last Resurrection ?
Announced by Job
And Described By St Paul; 1 Cor C-15…
Man lays down in death and Rises not til the heavens be no more !!!
So, eastern mystic Hindu/Buddhist theology in Christian Baptist garb.
When Jesus spoke the word gehenna he was talking about the valley of himmom same as in the Old testament the valley on the left side of Jerusalem that became the city dump Jesus was not talking about the afterlife but the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem if he had been talking about the afterlife he would have mentioned it to everyone but he did not he was only talking to the Jews Jesus said not to go among the gentiles I was only sent to the Lost House of Israel also when John's letter to the gentiles he never once mentioned gehenna. Why? Because it did not concern them this destruction was only to come up on the Jews. Hell is not even a translation just a plain out substitution Gehenna is a place and a person place or a thing is a noun Gehenna should have been translated Gehenna example if you were going to translate the word Jerusalem from Greek to English how would you translate it. Answer Jerusalem this hell business came to us by way of Augustine and translators of the dark ages it is nowhere in the pages of the true Hebrew or Greek scriptures
amen!!!!
I don't agree on universalism beleif, but if I'm wrong I will rejoice.
2 Resurrections in Scripture ! 1st and Last
Last St Paul made in clear in 1Cor 15. Dead Raised in the likeness of Christ; Living Changed to His Image; All in the Twinkling of an eye !
Jesus The Fore Runner,
As He went before us in all things; As He said on The 3rd Day He would be Perfected; ie Immortal so Shall our Change come As we
Have born the image of the Earthy so Shall we bare The Image Of The Heavenly ! Amen
Pure religion: St. James 1:27.
Rapture is the reapture... aka the harvest.. mid trib
Acts 3-21 KJV, Confirms Universal and gives us it’s Age !!
I've tried to break that down but it said "all things", that's talking about things other than humans because we're not things. I don't know about that
When Jesus spoke the word Gehenna
Heresy
Thank you....we are definitely heretics and proud to be so!!
That is wrong there is a hell
Our Preaching is SPIRIT CHARGED ! Human emotions
go away when The Carnal mind is replaced with The Mind of Christ !!!
It lines up exactly with What Yeshua/Jesus told The Samaritan woman at Jacobs well; they that worship God must worship him in spirit, and in truth, that equals the Holy Spirit in the spirit of Christ, who is the truth. Amen. Amen.
A man centered view of creation and the gospel is often the cause of bad doctrine.
What many fail to realize is creation is by God for God’s glory. It’s not about man. We who believe just reap the benefits of the perfect love between the triune God.
The perfect Father so loved the perfect Son He (the Father) promised the Son a redeemed people, redeemed by the perfect Spirit. A people that would spend their life in prayer to be formed into the image of the perfect Son and be raised to worship Him for eternity.
We’re not the center of creation or the gospel, Christ is. We’re a love gift from the Father to the Son, prepared by the Spirit. It’s all for Christ. Repent and believe the gospel.
I love the primitive Baptist church . However i do not like the women mouth kissing . It is gross and is not biblical . Hardshell women do this and it ruins the light of the church . I believe in walking in the light of truth “ the light of life “ which is greater to have than anything . Keeping days are a very ignorant thing , walking in the light is . The hardshells will expel you if you work on Sunday in any of the 24 hour period !
The preterist doctrine has to many holes in it to be true . Their will be a meeting in the clouds for Gods people before the wrath . But all will witness the great tribulation. The 7 th trumpet will be the end of it all .