ATTENTION! Before making a comment please remember these groups attacked us Christians first, they either claimed we were an abomination and or they were the one true church so the cults attacked Christianity first, as the result of this along with their false gospel Protestants & Evangelicals labeled these groups as cults, I did not come up with this label, this belief existed well over 100 years before I was even born. These are the 4 major cults that claimed to be the authentic version of Christianity. The Mormons said all other churches were an abomination, the SDA false prophet Ellen White claimed only Adventists who were in the movement by 1844 could be saved. The JW's claim only they can go to heaven nobody else and the CS founder once said if Jesus did not exist it would make no difference to her. The point of this video is not to criticize other faiths its is to point out that these groups do not represent true Biblical Christianity, instead they were all hostile to it. Today now that they have gained some acceptance they are trying to reform their image but make no mistake about it their teachings are not in line with the true Biblical gospel.
@@mariaquinn920 4 - 30 - 24 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ?
@@mariaquinn920 4 - 30 - 24 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY Mormon Seventh day Adventist Jehovah's Witness on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ?
@@mariaquinn920 4 - 30 - 24 BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Thank you for this breakdown. I am a 4th generation JW born in. I have only dared to look outside of Watchtower publications for the last 2 years. Now that I am fully aware that I was raised in a cult and raised my children in a cult as well, I am putting as much time and effort I can into learning Bible truths with fresh eyes and reading Christian teachers from long ago to the present times. Like the Mormons, JW’s teach that there was a great apostasy that occurred after the last Apostle died and that Christendom is all false Christianity and that JW’s alone are the restored true Christian Church. They do such a thorough job of “demonizing” mainstream Christian churches and beliefs(ie. the Trinity), that when JW’s wish to leave Watchtower Organization, they often turn atheist because it is so ingrained in them to think all the Christian Churches are evil and false. I pray for them over this. I am nearing 60 years old now and am so grateful to God for waking up to true Christianity while I still have as much of my mental faculties as I do😊 It is a joy for me to hear Christians like you now and now we are brother and sister in Christ😊 God Bless You in your ministry❤
8 - 30 - 23 #1 Thank you brother for your testimony #2 We don't find the word Trinity in the Bible HOWEVER the word GODHEAD is 100 % Biblical and in the Bible an is EXPLAINED in the EXACT SAME WAY as the Holy Trinity ( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future using the GREEK 1st Corinthians 12 : 4 - 6 The Holy Spirit is the SAME GOD ( CHARISMATA ) Jesus is the SAME GOD ( DIAKONIA ) The Father is the SAME GOD ( ENERGEMATA ) ( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future #3 I hope this will you #4 Adventism is the WORST out of these THREE NEW 19th century FALSE religions
@porfiriojohn5276 I completely agree with you about the trinity. Great job explaining. Just curious why you think Adventists are the worst among the group? I would've thought the others (JW, Mormons, etc) because some of them actually do believe in Jesus Christ being God's son.
@@jessicah.1828 I was thinking the same thing. It could be because the SDAs are closer to the truth but not in the truth, taking more Christians away from the faith.
@@jessicah.1828 9 - 4 - 23 #5 The Jehovah's Witnesses will kinda MORPH to try to sound like a good religion #6 Mormonism does a little more MORPHING to say that they are Christian and change with the times and change terms #7 Adventism is WORST , they will MORPH , LIE , and say ANYTHING to say they are Christians , and Evangelicals and even to the point of saying they are the TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which are the ONLY Completers of the Protestant Reformation movement #8 LDS : Does lip service on GRACE JWS : Does lip service on GRACE SDA : Does lip service on GRACE A ) Ellen G Whites says otherwise on GRACE B ) "" It is the GRACE of God to ALL Seventh day Adventists through OBEDIENCE to the LAW ! "" ( Ellen G White My life today page # 100 ) #9 LDS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church SAME AS........... SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church SAME AS.......... JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church #10 LDS : Has their seat in UTAH SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK #11 LDS : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1830 ) SAME AS.......... SDA : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 ) SAME AS........... JWS : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 ) #12 LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ SAME AS.......... SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus Christ set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42
Going to church on Sundays was from the Bible? No! Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it. Hebrews 4:4,9-11 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief. Exodus 31:14-15 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord : whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. Sabbath keeping is for both Jews and Gentles. Stranger = a Gentile. Isaiah 56:2,6 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil. 6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant; The papacy or popes changed the Lord's Sabbath day commonly called Saturday to Sunday in 7 March 321 A. D. The Lord foretold that the papacy will change times and laws. Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time. Churches that are worshipping on Sundays are breaking the 4th Commandment of the Lord. And they are obeying popes, the Roman Catholic church.
I wonder people who address this man as a pastor, an ignorant pastor whose analysis has no biblical support! Anyway, if fools went not to the Market, bad ware would not be sold. This so called analyst of cult religion cant even define the word cult itself
Are you Jewish the law is for Jewish people and not New Testament Saints. The problem is you can't tell the difference. Ephesians chapter 2 Paul tells us the difference
I have been to a seventh Day Adventist church before. The time I spent there they preached and taught by the Bible scriptures and studied them very earnestly. Their food intake was very strict due to health reasons and most were very healthy people and some of the nicest people I've ever met in this life. They follow the Saturday day of Sabbath due to the ten commandments. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. The original Sabbath day was on Saturday. They are strict on keeping that day holy.
1 - 28 - 24 #1 Well Ellen G White and Adventist Sheila Jackson Lee Congresswoman from Houston Tx are and were NOT STRICT about keeping your so called Adventist healthy lifestyle nutrition dietary law as they are and were FAT OBESE and OVERWEIGHT...... #2 Seventh day Adventists INCLUDING YOURSELF were NOT STRICT YESTERDAY on SATURDAY by WORKING your technology ALL day YESTERDAY on SATURDAY all over these Threads/ Comments and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #3 You didn't ONCE say that Seventh day Adventists are STRICT on SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #4 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #5 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy being STRICT bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy being STRICT CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ? Too busy being STRICT WORKING their technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #6 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT STRICT NEW 19th century religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my SDA friend !
1 - 30 - 24 #1 Just merely going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! "" doesn't mean by default one keeps the WHOLE LAW of the Commandments of God...... We are ALL SINNERS knowingly or unknowingly EVERYDAY #2 Only the blood of Christ CLEANESES us from sin and not some SDA get together at some SDA church #3 NICE doesn't get us into Heaven there are NICE people in EVERY SINGLE religion denomination faith belief system but we are all still evil Luke 11 : 13 #4 Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend #5 Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend #6 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #7 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend Chapter and verse please #8 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #9 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend #10 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the NICE GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ? #11 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments hasn't even bothered ONCE to be NICE and mention ANYTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #12 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to be NICE to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you Adventists waiting for BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
@@porfiriojohn5276Let those with ears listen 🙌🏽 glory be unto the Living God, we are saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH in His finished work on the Calvary. His defeat over sin, the realm of death, and Satan is what I put my faith in. Just as He rose, so shall we. God bless you brother
I was born and raised SDA and I will agree that the people can be very friendly, until you become a member and get deeply involved. They would appear to study from the bible very earnestly, but the investigative judgment is not in the bible, placing the children of God on probation. They take the word of Ellen White above the Holy Bible. That is not biblical teaching. Even if they appear to study the bible earnestly, they are not following it earnestly if Ellen Whites writings hold supreme authority above the bible. It is a works-based religion. Keeping the Sabbath almost becomes their salvation, instead of Jesus who died on the cross and atoned for our sins with his blood. It was a gift. We do not work for a gift, because it is given freely. They do not believe that his blood atoned for our sins on the cross. That is why they invented the investigative judgment. The history of Ellen White is full of questionable things. Some of these religions that are named came out of the Millerite movement called the great disappointment. Which was a false prophesy and prediction, and also why the SDA came up with the investigative judgment instead of admitting it was a false prophesy. That was the foundation upon which that religion was built. It is a faulty foundation in my opinion. As the comment from DanielPerez-ed4rn states, Jesus said on the cross, it is finished. He defeated sin, death, Satan. He rose from the dead and sits at the right hand of God in heaven.
My parents were JW’s from the time I was 9 till I was 15 1/2. It tore our closeness as children from my folks. When they left the JW’s I was almost 16. We rebounded but it took years. My big brother and I HATED going to their Kingdom Hall. I was saved when I was 31. My mom accepted Christ in 1999, my Father I need to sit down and ask him what he believes. My olderbrother wants NOTHING to do with Jesus. I try every few months and have for years. My little-brother died when I was 9, he was 2. He’ll be in heaven and I can’t wait to see him again. My daughter and her husband are saved. Praise God!!
1 - 5 - 24 Thank you for sharing your testimony ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
I was raised deeply entrenched in Christian Science. I even sang solo for their services, as did my mother. My grandmother was a CS practitioner. I would love to see you delve deeper into the religion than just reading info on the web. There is, indeed, nothing Christian or Scientific about it. I removed myself in 1994 and got born again in 1996. To know the true God, and His son, Jesus, has been the JOY of my life. I will say that at least Christian Science taught me there WAS a God, for which I am grateful.
I too was raised in Christian Science. My parents went to Principia HS and college. I went to Principia for a year in HS. I used to go to Cedar's CS camp and later to Adventures Unlimited CS summer camp. My dad was a first reader in the church in my teenage years. My mom died from cancer because a CS practitioner tried to tell her she couldn't serve two masters(the medical world and God) and so my mother stopped treatment and very soon afterwards died. My dad and his new wife are still both practicing Christian Scientists. I got out in early 2013 and was saved in Sept 2013 by God. I try plant seeds for my dad as often as I can. My dad's new wife had a melt down when I tried to have an actual conversation about Christ and that the Bible is what is real, not what MBE tried to teach because she twisted and contradicted the Bible over and over again in the science and health. I was able to help lead my sister away from CS too. I have also created the generational change in my family by marrying a Christian woman and brining all 3 of my children to Christ. I will say there are some very nice people in CS, but they have just been snowballed with false beliefs and promises.
@@reidbartlett3862: I'm very sorry for your loss of your mother. Are christian scientists aware that Luke (who wrote the book of Luke), was a DOCTOR? Yes, Luke was a PHYSICIAN, so it IS o.k. for people to seek treatment through doctors for their illnesses, ailments, injuries and health. That's why God GIVES us doctors and medicine. I just wish your Mom would've continued on with her treatment and hopefully gotten better. 😕
@@glenturney4750 no they (Christian scientists) don't. In Christian science, they cherry pick out verses to make or validate the weekly lesson subject. They do not actually read books or even large parts of books of the bible. They will selectively choose verses all across the bible, so one never gets context. They instead rely on Mary Baker Eddy's interpretation so they know or understand how to think about what was just read in the Bible. In the CS church, the first reader reads the science and health (and is the primary speaker during church service) and the second reader reads the Bible, so all emphasis is put on what MBE says over the Bible. That was one of the reasons I started paying really close attention to what was being said and started to pick up on all the inconsistencies and argumentative and contradictive statements made by MBE in contrast to the Bible. Thank you for your nice words about my mother. It's been 10 years now, but I am still a little bitter about the falsehoods my mother was fed.
As a born again believer in Christ, I worry about our mainline denominations that do not really believe the scriptures and only preach “feel good “ sermons; no sin, no repentance, no living for the Savior preached!
Sadly, we r in the time of apostasy...just look at the UMC. We broke up bc of them embracing homosexuality n that they believe that Jesus is ONE way to get into heaven n that's not true.
12 - 13 - 23 Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets Ellen G White William Miller Joseph Smith Charles Taze Russell ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
5 - 21 - 24 That's NOT what your SELF proclaimed Lesser Light SELF proclaimed MESSENGER SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy said about GRACE REMEMBER her writings supposedly brings COMFORT , GUIDANCE , CORRECTION and INSTRUCTION "" It is the GRACE of God to ALL Seventh day Adventists through OBEDIENCE to the LAW ! "" ( Ellen G White My life today page # 100 )
”But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED.“ Galatians 1:8 KJV
@@porfiriojohn5276 quote----Adventism and Mormonism has a different Angel Gospel FALSE Gospels... unquote THAT IS A WORTHLESS OPINION with NO FACTS--NO scriptures!! PROVE your opinion!!!! ALL 28 SDA doctrines are online--READ THEM and THEN tell me if they preach a different gospel!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 Zach 14, rev 5:10, Isaiah 2. The millinium is on the earth. Where does the bible say its in heaven?The Lord doesn't need 180 years to investigate who will be his firstfruits. Jesus drank real wine. The Muslims will become the beast. All the annual Sabbaths, feasts and Holydays should be honored like the weekly Sabbath, all Israel shall be saved. Ellen said Israel would never become a nation again,
@@roncompton5890 quote---The millinium is on the earth.--unquote Nope, impossible!! 1st, if on earth, why will we meet Jesus in the air? 1 Thess 4: [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 2nd-----2 Peter 3:10 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? READ THAT AGAIN!! ALL ILL BE BURNED UP!!!! 3rd---When New Jewusalem comes down from HEAVEN------Malachi 4:3 KJV: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of ... NOTHING BUT ASHES. ----Quote----Where does the bible say its in heaven?---unquote Where does it say on earth during those 1000 years??? ---quote---The Lord doesn't need 180 years to investigate who will be his firstfruits.. unquote So. how long will it take God to decide the fate of every person the has lived since Adam??? ----quote---Jesus drank real wine.... unquote Quote the bible!!!! --quote---The Muslims will become the beast...unquote I suggest you do LOTS more reading of Revelations and Daniel!!!! The "beast" that comes up out of the waters- is-----ROME---Water represents many people, tribes and tongues. The "beast' that comes up out of the land- (very few people in 1776)---the USA!!! Act like a lamb (freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech), but will worship the beast. The USA will be the first country to mandate Sunday worship. ----quote---All the annual Sabbaths, feasts and Holydays should be honored ...unquote Why?? They were given to the Jews!!!! Not to the gentiles!!! 2nd--they were fulfilled by Jesus!! All pointing to His sacrifice!!!! Feast of Tabernacles Feasts of First Fruits Feast of Trumpets Feast of Unleavened Bread Passover Day of Atonement ALL fulfilled!!!! -------
@@mitchellosmer1293 4 - 9 - 24 LDS : Do NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ SAME AS....... SDA : NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these videos you post on dealing with Adventism ALL day on Saturday's hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
I'm a proud member of the 7th day Adventist "cult". I believe in the spirit of prophecy and the testimony of Jesus. I believe we are living in the last days, the final moments of earth history based on the Bibles teaching. Jesus is coming soon and none of this matters, if it doesn't edify to my salvation.
10 - 24 - 23 #1 You should be PROUD to be a Christian FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST so you can be a Christian FIRST and BORN AGAIN Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY #2 The ONLY thing we should BOAST about is the CROSS Galatians 6 : 14 #3 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S , praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #4 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no #5 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes.......or........no Chapter and verse please #6 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ? Chapter and verse please #7 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes......or.......no #8 Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes.......or........no #9 Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
Ellen White is not the spirit of prophecy the Adventist church does not say she is, but her works and writings show a manifestation of the Spirit of prophecy. All who believe and obey God's commandments would have the spirit of prophecy as the Holy Spirit is given to them who obey Acts 5:32. All the prophets had the spirit for prophecy, God end time people will also have the spirit of prophecy Rev 12:17 calls it the testimony of Jesus Christ. Don't you have a testimony of what you learned from his word? Well, that testimony is called the spirit of prophecy Revelation 19:10. When you proclaim what Jesus had done, what he is doing, and what he is going to do (According to scripture) this is the Spirit of prophecy. @@junkmedicine Easy!
@@nompumelelomashele5654 11 - 14 - 23 #10 Feel free to ANSWER those VERY SIMPLE questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks 1 Peter 3 : 15 Biblical Gospel 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@junkmedicine In my local SDA church most of people use EGW as last resort or to fill the gaps. General Conference does base lot of sabath school materials on here writings, but in regular debates she is rarely quoted. For me personaly, I think she has great writings about general christian history, shallow writings about health and interesting looks on stories from Bible. I am not fully convinced that God revealed here details about stories from the bible and prophecies about end of time. It feels safer to stick to the Bible. But her christian history writings is so good that other curches theologists read it too.
Read several books of EG white, most especially the book "The Great Controversy". My motive was to search and find God. I can say with a clear conscience that the things I've read and learned for myself are NON-cultic. I pray that God's Spirit shall teach, convict and lead us all to the Source of Truth! Many blessings!
May you share only scripture that proves that Sunday worship is the MOB? Secondly EGW said the Lord does nothing in combination with Satan, but in the great controversy Satan is the final sin bearer for believers. Doesn't that mean both Satan and Christ then play a part in salvation?
@@henryhondo8421.... What is MOB, sir? NEVER I read in the Great Controversy that "Satan is the final sin bearer for believers". Would you please mention in here the very passage or paragraph where she mentioned that in the book?
@@henryhondo8421 If the beast has a mark. God has a clear mark or sign as well! Man was to work for 6 days. The seventh day of the week was set apart as the Sabbath, a holy day to rest. Exodus 20:9-10 Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates. Revelation 9:4 They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green plant or any tree, but only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads. Exodus 13:9 And it shall be to you as a sign on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth. For with a strong hand the Lord has brought you out of Egypt. Ezekiel 20:20 Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.” For further in-depth discussion on the Bible & Church history identifying who is the beast mentioned in revelation and what the Mark of the Beast is... ua-cam.com/video/vDKG_WFLUi4/v-deo.html
@@henryhondo8421 Revelation 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” Revelation 13:5-8 And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain. Revelation 13:1-3 And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast. Revelation 14:9-11 If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name. Revelation 13:16-17 He [the beast of the sea] also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark. Revelation 13:18-19 This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
i was a muslim. The Living God, Jesus Christ Himself came to me in a very clear vision and saved me from the cult of Islam. Jesus Christ delivered me from demons or evil spirits. I repented of all of my sins and Jesus Christ forgave me and cleansed me with His Holy Blood! After I repented Jesus Christ baptized me with the Holy Spirit and Fire. Jesus Christ healed me. Jesus Christ changed me and my whole life radically completely. Jesus Christ sat me free from RELIGION, Christianity is NOT a religion, Christianity is RELATIONSHIP with the Living GOD!!💖✝️💖 Now I'm a born again believer in Christ Jesus. I was dead in sins and lived in the Kingdom of darkness, now I'm dead to sins and live in the Kingdom of Light! My life is not my own anymore and belongs to Him. I do belong to Jesus Christ. HalleluYah. 💖✝️💖✝️💖 I praise Jesus Christ forever.🥰✝️🥰✝️🥰 All glory, honor and praise be to the divine Holy Trinity my God. My dear Elohim (Yahweh, Yeshua, the Holy Spirit).💖✝️💖 💖🥰✝️💖✝️💖✝️🔥✝️🔥 👇 This brief testimony is only for the glory of the God Who is Living, Loving and Saves!❤✝️ 👇 Without believing properly in Jesus Christ you will go to hell, no matter who you are, no matter where you are, no matter what religion you have, no matter I say again WITHOUT believing properly in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will end up in hell as soon as you leave this earth, life is not guaranteed to anyone! There is no question, no answer, no doubt, no matter who you are without believing properly in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will directly land to hell and you will be there for eternity! Do you understand for eternity in hell and being tormented by demons nonstop forever!! Wake up people! Jesus Christ showed me a second of hell just a glance of it and I couldn't bare it, I scared so horribly that I opened my eyes! He showed me outer darkness! There are testimonies of hell! Jesus Christ showing hell to a lot of his children to share them with the world! Hell a real place! Without Christ in your life you end up in hell no matter what religion you have! ☝️ 👇 (To the dear peaceful tolerant muslims I don't care what you think and what you say at all, don't bother to comment I don't reply, don't need more harrassment!)
After leaving the Mormon church, which I grew up in and was a member of for 37 years, I tried to find a new Christian home, so I spent a lot of time researching other Christian churches. And after all that, I can honestly say that there is not a single Christian church or dogma in this world that I trust to teach me the pure truth of Christ. ALL of them have the exact same issues as the church I was raised in. Which is all basically summed up by: "Let God guide you to the truth-unless that truth conflicts with what I say, then listen to me instead." THAT mindset is the whole definition of a cult and its in EVERY, single Christian church I look into. I've had enough of it. There is more of it in this video. I don't need it. No Christian person in this world needs it. I want a pure relationship with my Savior with no middle man or woman in between. If I am a child of God then He can speak to me just as well as He can to any prophet. So I will speak to Him directly and let Him guide me. Only He has the pure truth at this point.
the kingdom of heaven is within.. is true what you say.. go within, GOD is not something externak or separate. He is love, be loving twords self and others and you will discover the God within
Church is a people where people of the same mind about God meet and fellowship together. But that's one event. We still need to go and search the scriptures yourself. The pastors should be telling the members that constantly. We're all just vessels. As you've read the Bible in your personal time, and find a church home, that's the idea. If you're going through something, who do you go to when you need a boost of encouragement, boosted prayer, maybe other fellowships? Paul had his go to people and other churches he visited helped him financially and through encouragement (mentioned in Phil 4). He also mentioned that we should not forsake the gathering of brethren That's what the church body is for as well. People are people, but when God is involved, the vessels are a great help
I joined the Seventh-Day Adventist Church in 1996 at the age of 17 while searching for God and after studying with many denominations including most of the Protestant churches. I can say having been in this denomination for over 20 years I have been hearing this and no one has been able to take their bibles and prove it, it’s far from a cult. If you would like to have a cordial biblical discussion on this I would be more than happy to do so.
@ tree of life ministries I used to be a SDA because of being raised in it. I left when I realized that their doctrines were not sound and their prophetic views were messed up too, and egw had a lot to do with that. Although it's not a full on cult, it does have some methods of luring and entrapping potential followers into their beliefs and holding them. A lot more could be said. One thing I learned and understand about that church like others is they have and hold on to a Very Very small view of God's overall plan. And they have a belief similar to the rapture, a fly away belief. They take some scriptures as literal instead of spiritual. More could be said.
Thank you for you cordial response. Not all SDA represent the core beliefs and tenants of the church as it should. I’m a traveling evangelist and I have been all around the world preaching and do realize that there are some rigidity within the denomination. If you go from denomination to denomination you will find the same amongst all, that there are various belief and mischaracterizations within. However, after speaking with so many people for so many years who put out public messages like this, most have not sat down with someone and discussed some of the sentiments that is shared within this video. I find that many shape their beliefs of others without context. Google doesn’t tell the whole truth. I believe sitting down breaking bread together, opening up the scriptures and have discussion on the various views is the apostolic and biblical method. We are doing that now with a groups and they realize that all they have been hearing about SDAs were mischaracterizations. We don’t have a special SDA Bible. We use the same Bible. All I am saying is let’s come together, open up the word and discuss. I was skeptical myself before joining twenty seven year ago until I sat down and the Bible was opened. What I found is that everything that we believe is founded in the Word. 27 years later many open discussions it’s the same. We have nothing to hide let’s opens up the word and see what it says. To call us a cult publicly like this is flat out wrong and has no biblical basis.
@@treeoflifeministries7425SDA teachings contradict the Bible. Investigative Judgement is an abomination. Teaching that Christ transferred (defiled) the temple by His blood and that judgement of believers began in the 1800's and still continues or as EGW...."We don't know when he will finish it and start with the living" (paraphrasing). Her prophesies about Turkey being raised to the ground, the congregation at Battle Creek would be alive at His return and so many others have failed. Forbidding to eat meat directly contravenes the scripture and Paul's warning of doctrine of demons in the latter days. He used the example.of forbidding to eat meat!!! There is so much to say but unless you seek the truth in the Word you will not see
@@treeoflifeministries7425 10 - 23 - 23 #1 My friend you did say you have gone around the world PREACHING and yet NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why.not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #2 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for #3 It is a catalyst on your part to say one shouldn't just Google a video dealing with Adventism and one should just break bread and talk #4 Most of us won't meet each other and so that's why this is an open forum #5 What's more you didn't explain what EXACTLY was said in this video that was wromg about Adventism and Ellen G White and the Investigative Judgment #6 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ? Chapter and verse please #7 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes.......or........no #8 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes......or.......no Chapter and verse please ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE !
@@treeoflifeministries7425 10 - 23 - 23 #9 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S , praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #10 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes.......or.......no #11 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS.......... JWS : Teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS.......... SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes........or.........no #12 LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS.......... JWS : Teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS.......... SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
It's because of Christian Science that my parents died needlessly as they both refused medical attention to preventable diseases. I being their son escaped this horrible Cult by myself
@@marklmansfield, he or she didn't say that he /she had more faith in Doctors than GOD. There is nothing wrong with going to a Doctor to get a check up & be given medication for a Illness etc. --- a Person can still have Faith in GOD CHRIST as their LORD & SAVIOUR & be under a Doctor for treatment of a Illness etc. ---
@@johnpearce3714 Modern Medicine and peoples unquestioning blind faith and obedience to its power and authority ; Looks to me like the biggest Cult Followers of all . Trust the Science that you yourself have verified , Not some Johnny Come Lately , So Called Expert . If they died with their faith intact , their in a better place than ; Kept alive by some FrankenScience. Just saying 🤷♂
@@marklmansfield Yes. It was my surgeon that fixed my heart, not God. The God of the Bible is portrayed as jealous and Vengeful. I want nothing to do with this God.
My mother grew up Seventh Day Adventist. She married my father and went to the Methodist Church with him for 56 years until his death. Your early teachings are cemented in. When dad passed away she went back to the Adventist church and remained until her death 3 years later
@@leonidzakhariya6621 1 - 13 - 24 #1 So you came from a Baptist upbringing that was SPREADING and PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( Which at the least you could have learned that ) But no................. #2 To NOW all of a sudden being a Seventh day Adventist LOCKED in your technology WORKING your technology ALL day TODAY on the SATURDAY you claim to keep Holy while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #3 You are NOT RESTING You are NOT PRAYING You are NOT seeking the Lord's face ( Not that you know what that means ) on the Saturday you claim to keep Holy #4 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ? #5 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller and the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? Like you are doing RIGHT NOW #6 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my SDA friend !
@@leonidzakhariya6621 1 - 13 - 24 #7 You did ask if one wants to know about Adventism just ask ( YOUR OWN WORDS ) #8 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS......... SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes....or...no my friend #9 LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS........ SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes....or...no my friend #10 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ? Chapter and verse please #11 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend #12 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend Chapter and verse please #13 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #14 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend BIBLICAL GOSPEL Romans 1 : 1 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@leonidzakhariya6621 to follow the Bible in truth..it's important to go all the way..denominations is also against the Bible ..reglion is created by man..Christian the name not given by christ but by ppl..only God's word is the way ,christ teachings. The sabbath is given in the beginning of creation..no reglion..
@@babithasingh9367 2 - 1 - 24 #1 FIRST ( YOU SAID ) names of religions are given by man and AGAINST the Holy Bible ( YOUR OWN WORDS ) #2 THEN all of a sudden it's perfectly fine for religions/ denominations to be named by MANKIND Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses Not only that : their NAMES ALL claim to be the ONLY ONE TRUE NEW 19th century religion denomination churches ALL religious NAMES ( CULTS ) Make up your mind "" A double minded man is unstable in all his ways "" James 1 : 8 BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
It's sad that people are trapped within their own minds, with all these twisted believes and not going to the core that it's Jesus Christ, God, our savior. This wonderful video teaches us that sometimes keeping it simple is best. God bless you all.
@@Know_it302 Of course. Saying May the Holy Spirit bless you, Jesus or YHWH bless you is equal because they are God, and these 3 persons together still make 1 God. We humans cannot do that just like as 3 identical brothers cannot be 1 brother, God is so powerful that he can do anything and be anything, like dividing himself (or be warped if you like) into 3 different persons and still be 1.
I held your position pastor about the SDA church and EGW, till i read her book called the great controversy. Just read the last ten (10)chapters of that book written in the 1800s, everything she wrote 100% is playing out in the world today. From that day, i refused to take people's opinions. Besides that, I stumbled upon a testimony of Roger Morneau. That sent me back to the Bible. Am now doing serious studies about the true sabbath of God, and what am discovering, Its certainly NOT Sunday.
Romans catholic church altered the sat sabbath to sunday. Sun god. But the sabbath was for jews not gentiles the 10 commandments were also the jews not the gentiles. Nt saints are given 2 commandments +1 .
My experience: with the book, Great Controversy: once I started reading it I couldn't put it down. It blows your mind as it brings Christian church history into perspective and explains the coming final events so clearly, all based on what the Bible teaches. It answers so many questions. Very comprehensive and incredible. I promise you won't regret reading it. Reply
I have read a pamphlet or 2 written by White, or serious followers, probably White. It was so wrong, in that, it obviously disputed against true Christianity, with worldly and erroneous logic. The woman had visions contrary to what the Bible said, 1800 years after Christ! There is no way, no how, they are true. They appeal to man's search for immediate answers to questions about the Bible and God, rather than asking God and waiting for His answers, which many times is instant. I have learned, what I received in the beginning concerning God's word, I will not give up, unless I am proven to be wrong. It has not happened yet. God truly led me to His truth. Anyone who who diverts from basic Bible beliefs is not satisfied to live holy, but rather seeks joy from people, in them approving of them. The Bible says please God, not man. If one is not spiritual, in that, they reject the truth when it concerns their carnal living and carnal thinking, they will get it backwards. Many SDAs have carnal explanations for God's word, not spiritual. It shocks me, because it's in almost everything I discuss with them. And God's explanations, which are spiritual which manifests in godly thinking and living, they reject almost categorically. Things born again Christians, all true Christians are born again, John 3:3,5,7, easily understand, SDAs look puzzled and talk about what White has written...proving White and her writings are their Lord. What I believe comes from the Bible, as taught by the Holy Spirit. Do you see the difference? Do not tell me White is a prophet sent to teach the Bible in truth, when it goes against Christian truth. The Mormons say the same thing. Jehovah's Witnesses say the same thing. There were major cults founded in the 1800s, as if for 1800 years, God was deceiving us. It is stupifying that anyone could fall for that. But the devil is more clever and devious than any person, and is the father of lies. If one is not surrendered to God, the devil can take them at his will. It happens to ones who call themselves Christians. I will not fall for the lies of the wicked one. 1800 years later and you believe them? We really are not as smart or wise as we think. You actually are accusing God of hiding the truth for 1800 years. Which He would never do. Those 1800s cults that deny the truth of the Bible, they are enemy plants. Satan raised up their founders. He appeared as an angel of light to them. Pray, for God alone shows truth. You notice, in those 1800 years, God sent no prophet to give a new gospel. Prophets are here today, to prophecy, not to found new beliefs. You have been deceived. This is straight talk, not itching ears talk. It is from God.
Thank u for this video. You, elaborating abt these cults help us to face their members and to exp their differences from the truth to the non-christians. Because we as true christians we hve no idea how to exp to them and they can fell in their traps in their search for truth. "Lack if knowledge we perish".
@@jeanclaude7018 4 - 17 - 24 You mean like the FACT that you HIDE on this thread that you are a Seventh day Adventist ? Myself....? I am a Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED, NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY Bet you won't say the same
4 - 17 - 24 BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
4 - 17 - 24 You two ( BOTH ) of you are Seventh day Adventists CULTS DO NOT PREACH/ SPREAD the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ NOT ONCE have ANY of the Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Yes that's what I say and why did he leave them out. I learned about cults from watching Cloud Church org the teacher knows his Scriptures and he has helped me l am 70
I'm not a catholic but I do know it's far more complex than just confessing. You have to confess your faults, to repent sincerely, to accept your penance with humility and patience, to repair any harm done, and to agree not to repeat your wrong doing. Then, and only then, can you be forgiven.
@@anagualberto8384 The Son of Most High said repent and believe, not confess to a man that is filled with just as much sin as u have! They cannot absolve u of sin! Yashua said : Only God can forgive sin! Not the priests, Pope, monsignor etc. Eventhough u say u r not Catholic, evidently u have been indoctrinated with their dogma! What they do violates the Commandments and offends The Most High! Praying to saints, veneration of relics, preservation of so called saints reeks idolatry! The RCC has combined ancient Egyptian religious practices with their own! RCC steeped in pagan Egyptian practices! For example if u step inside a Catholic church and walk up to the altar, they usually have a rectangular structure covered with embroidered cloth with the letters IHS or possibly engraved in the altar, depending on the church. They will tell u that those letters r the name of Yashua (who the world calls Jesus) in Latin . Those letters stand for Isis, female Egyptian goddess, Horeb and Seb, Egyptian male gods. If u do the research it leads back to Egyptian religious practices.
My grandfather was a Christian science. When I was like 6 years old I accidentally broke my arm. My grandfather being the only adult home, would not take me to a hospital, rather he believed he could reset my broken arm. Sure enough, he broke it again in another place. When my mom came home to find my arm broke in two places and why. You can imagine the talk those two must have had.
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD (The Bible is also called the Old and New Testaments. Do you know what "testament" refers to? The "testament" in the Old Testament is from Jehovah's agreement with the people of Israel when He killed the Egyptians and deliver the Israelites from Pharaoh. Jehovah killed the firstborn males of Egypt and all the firstborn livestock, and He saved all the Israelites, which means all the people in the land of Israel were favored by Jehovah, and all will be saved; He wanted to do a lasting work with them, and established the covenant with them with the blood of the lamb. From then on, Jehovah would not kill the Israelites, and said that they were His elect forever. The covenant Jehovah's covenant is unchangeable, because it was fulfilled in blood, and established in His chosen people. The New Testament is named from the shedding of Jesus' blood on the cross and His covenant with all who believe in Him. The covenant of Jesus is this: People need only believe in Him to have their sins forgiven because of the shedding of His blood, and thus they will be saved, and be born again through Him, and no longer be sinners; people only need to believe in Him to receive His grace, and will not suffer in hell after they die. So, these books are also named from an agreement: They are called the New Testament. These two covenants cover only the Age of Law and the Age of Grace, and have nothing to do with the latter age.) Almighty God said The BIBLE is also CALLED the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT. Do you KNOW WHAT "testament" MEANS? The "testament" in the OLD TESTAMENT is from JEHOVAH's agreement with the PEOPLE of ISRAEL when He KILLED the EGYPTIANS and SAVED the ISRAELITES from PHARAOH. Of course, the PROOF of this COVENANT is the BLOOD OF THE LAMB WHICH WAS APPLIED ABOVE THE DOORS, THROUGH WHICH GOD ESTABLISHED THE COVENANT WITH MAN, WHEREAS EVERYONE WITH THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB ON THE TOP AND SIDES WAS SAID of the GATE are ISRAELITES, they are the CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD, and they ALL will be SAVED by JEHOVAH (because Jehovah will then kill all the firstborn males of Egypt and firstborn sheep and cattle). This AGREEMENT has TWO levels of DEFINITION. Jehovah will spare neither the people nor the livestock of Egypt; He will kill all their firstborn males and firstborn sheep and cattle. So, in many BOOKS of PROPHECY it was FORETELLED that the Egyptians would be severely chastised as a result of JEHOVAH'S COVENANT. This is the FIRST LEVEL of DEFINITION OF AGREEMENT. ☀️ JEHOVAH KILLED the FIRST BORN MEN of EGYPT and ALL the FIRST BORN PETS, and He SAVED ALL the ISRAELITES, WHICH MEANS ALL the PEOPLE in the LAND of ISRAEL was REJECTED BY JEHOVAH, AND ALL WILL BE SAVED; He WANTED to do a PERMANENT WORK with them, and ESTABLISHED the COVENANT with them USING the BLOOD of the LAMB. 🙏 BEGINNING, JEHOVAH WOULD NOT KILL the ISRAELITES, and SAID they were His CHOSEN ONES FOREVER. ☀️🙏 FROM thevTWELVE TRIBES of ISRAEL, He WILL BEGIN His WORK throughout the AGE of LAW, He WILL LAY OUT His LAW to the ISRAELITES, and WILL SELECT PROPHETS and JUDGES FROM THEM, and THEY WILL be the CENTER of His WORK. 🙏 JEHOVAH has MADE A AGREEMENT with THEM: UNLESS the TIMES CHANGE, He WILL ONLY WORK in the MIDST of the ELECTED. JEHOVAH'S COVENANT DOES NOT CHANGE, because IT WAS FULFILLED in BLOOD, and ESTABLISHED eith His CHOSEN PEOPLE. 🙏💐 Furthermore, He CHOOSES an APPROPRIATE scope and purpose to be the SOURCE of His WORK for ALL AGE, and thus the people of the PEOPLE SEE CONGRESSION all the more IMPORTANT. This is the SECOND level of DEFINITION of AGREEMENT. ☀️ With the exception of Genesis, which predates the establishment of the covenant, all other Old Testament books record God's work among the Israelites after the establishment of the covenant. Of course, there are occasional accounts of Gentiles, but in general, the Old Testament records God's work in Israel. Because of JEHOVAH'S AGREEMENT with the ISRAELITES, the BOOKS written in the AGE of the LAW are CALLED the OLD TESTAMENT. THESE are NAMED from JEHOVAH'S AGREEMENT with the ISRAELITES. 💐 The NEW COVENANT is NAMED from the SHEDDING of JESUS' BLOOD on the CROSS and His AGREEMENT with ALL WHO BELIEVE in Him. JESUS' AGREEMENT is THIS: PEOPLE ONLY NEED to BELIEVE in Him to HAVE THEIR SINS FORGIVED because of the SHEDDING of His BLOOD, and THEN THEY WILL BE SAVED, and BE BORN THROUGH HIM, and will NOT be SINNERS; PEOPLE just NEED to BELIEVE in Him to RECEIVE His GRACE, and NOT SUFFER in HELL AFTER THEY DIE. ☀️💐🙏 All the BOOKS WRITTEN in the AGE of GRACE CAME AFTER this AGREEMENT, and ALL of them STATE the WORK and SAYINGS CONTAINED in it. They do not exceed the salvation of the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus or the agreement; these are all books written by brothers in the Lord who had experiences. THEREFORE, THESE BOOKS ARE ALSO NAMED FROM an AGREEMENT: THEY ARE CALLED the NEW TESTAMENT. 🙏 These TWO COVENANTS only cover the AGE of LAW and the AGE of GRACE, and have NOTHING to DO WITH the LAST AGE. Therefore the BIBLE is of NO GREAT USE to PEOPLE TODAY in the LAST DAYS. ☀️ It can only be said that it serves as a temporary reference, but it's really not worth much to use. However, this is still the most careful--careful of religious people. They don't know the Bible; they only know how to explain the Bible, but are unaware of its origins. Their attitude towards the Bible is: Everything in the Bible is correct, it contains no inaccuracies or errors. Since they have already decided that the Bible is correct and without error, they study and analyze it with great interest.☀️ The present stage of work was not prophesied in the Bible. The WORK of CONQUERING the DARKEST PLACE is NEVER MENTIONED, because it is the NEWEST WORK. Because the AGE of WORK is DIFFERENT, even Jesus Himself did not know that this stage of work would be done in the last days----then how can the people of the last days find this stage of work in the Bible by examining it? 🙏 From "About the Bible (2)" Fulfillment of "When I looked up, someone handed me a book wrapped in a scroll. I opened it and I read on both sides the prayers, lamentations, and curses." (Ezekiel 2:9-10). ... "His clothes were stained with blood. He was called the "Word of God." (Rev. 19:13) The kingdom He brought down and built in the worthy holy place in the highest in the sky and when all the humanity He created in the universe was occupied by it and it was engraved in His holy name and owned by His disposition "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 this is the fulfillment of (Matthew 16:18) The Lord Jesus said, "And I say to you, Peter, on top of this eunuch I will build my Church, which will not prevail against him even the fear of death.". ... and fulfillment of "The Letter to the Church in Philadelphia" (Rev. 3:7-13). ... and fulfillment of "The New Jerusalem"💫 "The Spirit covered me, and the angel led me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed me Jerusalem, the Holy City, coming down from heaven from God." (Rev. 21:10). ... "For the time has come in the house of God for the beginning of judgment in the house of God." (1 Peter 4:17) 📩 God's sheep are called and led to His glorious Throne in "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 to submit again to His authority so that He can continue to teach us, guide us and protect us even in plagues, disasters, famines and wild animals It will not move us, and to completely win the war with the big red dragon in this final battle!. ... The fulfillment of "They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... Fulfillment that it will be built in the highest in the sky that in this is our millennial generation UA-cam in (Isaiah 2:2 / 9:6) "In the last day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All the nations will flock there.". ... "For a baby boy is born for us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." 💌
My mom is/was Christian Science. (She doesn’t go to church anymore. All of her church friends are deceased. And she finally went to a doctor because she had really high blood pressure. And she got two knees replacements) Going to a doctor to get a bone set and cast is actually ok in the Christian Science doctrine. As is going to the dentist and getting cavities filled. (And any other dental work) Thankfully my mom always took me to the doctor. And back in the 70s and 80s you had to be vaccinated if you were going to school. I absolutely agree that Christian Science is neither Christian nor Science. I will say that unlike the JWs, 7th Day Adventists, and the Mormons; nobody gets into anyone else’s business. No one could call one the Readers (they don’t have pastors, just readers who read from the Bible and “Science and Health With Keys to the Scriptures”) and tattle on a fellow member of the church. Which is very unlike JWs and Mormons especially. Both of those churches have a culture of tattling. Baptist and Evangelical churches also are big tattlers too. I became Episcopalian. There is zero tattling. And we don’t quote scripture at each other. Most of what my church does is help the poor and homeless. There is a permanent Homeless Shelter on the church campus. And the Priest’s House was removed and low cost housing was built.
I have been attending a Seventh-Day Adventist church for six years. I have not heard them mention the name of Ellen White more than once, and then it was only casual.
1 - 11 - 24 #2 The 28 Fundamental Belief system that you tell NON - SDAS to read so that they can FULLY understand what Adventism believes states EMPHATICALLY that the writings of Ellen G White brings COMFORT GUIDANCE CORRECTION INSTRUCTION Does it not ?
Same here. Been to hundreds of Bible studies and not a peep there either. The only thing I’ve encountered was hard working, motivated/dedicated folk eager to learn about God. What a terrible cult!
@@TheTrooper424 1 -18 - 24 #3 Doug Bachelor quotes from Ellen G White ALL the time #4 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ? #5 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #6 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42
Trooper, in Christian seminary circles, it is called "Theocratic Tact"...not releasing the difficult belief-passages until one is hooked on the minors...then the listener is more apt to swallow the woeful anti-bible doctrines of the 7th Day. They now say literal hell does NOT exist, that it is simple eternal death in the grave. They are also sadly trapped in much of the OT - mandatory Sabbath worship, to do otherwise is of the devil and the mark of the beast. They strongly discourage eating meat and other things in the OT (call it "flesh food"), fermented beverages (wine) are evil, and now subtitle encouraging the shunning of jewelry - including wedding rings as one becomes more holy to God...seriously. Jesus and the apostles warned about this and more: when to worship, what to eat and drink, hyper doctrines that oppose the Word of God and much more. As a retired pastor/chaplain, I pray you will rethink your previous post.@@TheTrooper424
You forgot one thing JW also says that Jesus didn't get crucified on a cross, that he got crucified on a steak or stake. After 20 years of studying with them I had to leave them alone they were driving me insane to the point of contemplating suicide. God bless you.
Was raised a Christian Scientist. It is an impenetrable box of impressive sounding waffle, devised by the demonic, and locked from the inside by the one who believes it. You have summarized it well. The cult is dying, and churches that were once large and full are limping along with a handful of elderly members. Thank God. Now, if only my mother would surrender her life to Jesus instead of following Mrs. Eddy to hell....I can dream, and pray. She won’t listen to anything. Sigh.
Yes, this is the deadliest teaching it seems in our day and age. Having "increased (wordly) knowledge" and the ability to use wise sounding theories and ideas, it is frightening. "Professing themselves to be wise they become fools". I pray your mom manages to get out of their clutches
I went to a church service of theirs not knowing what it really was and had an immediate red flag when they started refering to God as both the Father AND THE MOTHER (or something like that). Something about the devine feminine. I instantly felt uncomfortable about my $2 donation.
For the SDA church you mention there are 3 mistakes: Sabbath, Gift of Prophecy, and the Santuary. But obviously you didn't read the quotes given for each SABBATH- Gen 21-3 Ex 20:8-11 Lk.4:16 Is.56:5,6 ; 58:13,14 Matt. 12:1-12 Ex.31:13-17 Eze. 20:12,20 Deut. 5:12-15 Heb. 4:1-11 Lev.23:32 Mk. 1:32 SPIRITUAL GIFTS AND MINISTRIES - Rom.12:4-8 Cor. 12:9-11,27,28 Eph. 4:8,11-16 Acts 6:1-7 1Tim.2:1-3 1Peter4:10,11 CHRIST'S MINISTRY IN THE HEAVENLY SANCTUARY- Heb.8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22;1:3; 2:16,17 Dan7:9-27;8:13,14; 9:24-27 Num.14:34 Eze.4:6 Lev.16 Rev.14:6,7; 2012; 14:12; 22:12 Read, before commenting Pray, before reading
You have a problem with EGW's failed prophecies. Palestine was rebuilt and occupied fulfilling Isa. 66:8 and Micah 5:3 to list a few fulfilled prophecies. You can argue that she is a prophetess all day long but we know she failed the test for a prophet countless times. So stop lying to us. She is a false prophetess. The atonement was completed Resurrection Sunday Heb. 9:12. He entered once and for all the HOLY PLACE with HIS own blood placing it on the Mercy seat as HIS testimony was completed. Only a sick antichrist witch would say JESUS didn't finish the Attonment Resurrection Sunday.
Notice all the scriptures for the Sabbath are Old Testament except for one in the Gospels. The Sabbath was not only Saturday Worship. There were many ordinances to follow. Ephesians 2 : 8 and 9 We are saved by grace through faith and not works. Observing the Sabbath does not save anyone now. The Sabbath was made for man and not GOD is what JESUS said.
@@Episcopalianacolyte 7th day Sabbath was for a sign between the children of Israel and YHWH not Gentiles. Remember, isn't to remember the ordinances or the 7th day. It is remembrance of the CHRIST Rest Adam lost to sin. SDA use it as obedience to the law aka their works salvation. In reality it restored Israel to a one day of paradise where YHWH provided their meat without the "sweat of thy face". Locked in paradise instead of out. Kindle no fires so HIS Mazzaroth could be read without 10,000 camp fires blazing for HIS plan of salvation to be read in the heavens. What SDA call keeping the sabbath looks nothing like Sabbath Torah law. They actually break sabbath law by kindling the fire in their internal combustion engines and living their gates to meet up with the other holier than thou cult members.
This was nice. Thank you. You did well in bringing out a few things of each of these denominations. I wondered why about Mormon churches, since as a child in Utah I had become a member. When we moved to Texas, mom went back to church she felt comfortable with. The Church of Christ. When I was told things about Jehova Witness by folks who had never been there I had to check it out. Quite a difference from scriptural. I was interested in checking out the Seventh Day Adventists but in looking to see how the felt about Jews and Israel - I didn't study them any further. The Scientology church is really strange. I didn't know anything about them. Another strange way to have church in what I experienced is the Quaker church. I found that most of my teachers through my lifespan have been Baptist. Billy Graham started me off with his little book on How to study the Bible. I listened to Charles Stanley and Derek Prince, now I listen to Jack Hibbs sermons on Sunday and Wednesday. I love the Church, the body of Christ everywhere. I pray He will show everyone His truth or make us aware of scriptural truth so we are not following false prophets. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I am a student of scripture for life.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant, however in case it is so, I would like to respectfully point out that the Scientology church is in no way affiliated with Christian Science
I left the Catholic Church because I had lots of questions about purgatory, praying to saints, worshiping idols etc. I am now a babtized born again Christian, my family is mostly catholic, so when one of my relatives died I asked the priest during the service if I could take communion, I explained to him that I have professed Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal savior , he denied me the table of Jesus Christ, because I was not a member of the Catholic Church. That really shocked me. Jesus would never turn any one away from his table.
When a person leaves the Catholic Church, whether they leave of their own accord-( like you did), or are forced out due to another reason, that term is called Excommunication. Excommunication means not being able to receive the Holy Eucharist. Your priest didn’t refuse you communion because he’s a jerk or doesn’t like you, it’s because you excommunicated yourself from the Catholic faith. He’d be a very wrong priest if he allowed you TO partake in Holy Communion. You have to be a believer in One Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church to receive the Holy Eucharist, and since you left the church, the sacraments are no longer available to you, even if you still believe in Jesus.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do oh brother this script is getting old . Do you have a new script or the same script? . You might have a point . The trouble is that being slapped in the face with regurgitated rhetoric is wearisome. No none will listen if they feel they are being attacked or read a script z that you don’t understand is obvious . Why don’t you try a different take.
Read “The Desire of Ages” book for yourself, a masterful telling of the life of the life of Christ. You will not regret reading this book! I have read it over and over again, and been blessed every time!
12 - 16 - 23 #1 What about reading the Bible FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST? #2 Have you read the Bible OVER and OVER again ? #3 Have you not been blessed by Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul who ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? #4 Does not the Bible TELL the life of Christ ? #5 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle / Disciple unto Christ? Chapter and verse please ? #6 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes ...or....no my friend #7 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes ...or ...no my friend Chapter and verse please #8 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #9 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #10 Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend #11 Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED , NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
@@porfiriojohn5276 why cannot anyone read the Bible first and then read The Desire of Ages as a sideline? There's 24 hours in a day! I was blessed deeply blessed reading the Conflict of the Ages series back to back years ago. You read more than the Bible, no? Just enjoy goin on a road or book trip of over 700 pages on the life of Christ. What's it gonna hurt?
@@robertray4191 12 - 17 - 23 #12 You didn't ANSWER those questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks 1 Peter 3 : 15 #13 You still haven't REFUTED the FACT that NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) GOOD SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 ANSWER REVELATION 1 : 18 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Read the enfancy gospels of Thomas about the life of Yeshua also read the gospel of Thomas. This is literally the only 2 text which have been carbon dated to the time of Yeshua not after like the whole new testament
Its based on creation but there is zero evidence anyone observed the sabbath before God gave the commandment to Moses. Where there is no law there is no sin says the Apostle Paul. As Christians we follow and are under the New Covenant. The 10 Commandments are still true but the sabbath has been fulfilled in Christ as I explain here - ua-cam.com/video/SpjGPPVRYrY/v-deo.html
@@Pastor_Grant have you considered that... 1. God Himself rested on that day and forever hallowed it to be His day? 2. The 10 commandments are distinct from the larger body of laws known as the Mosaic law which included dietary laws, laws about clothing, etc. So while most of the Mosaic law is superceded by the new covenant by Christ's sacrifice, the Ten Commandments were never abrogated. 3. Seemingly to emphasize their eternal finality, God not only verbally dictated them from the mountain but also wrote them on tablets for Moses. And when Moses destroyed them in anger they had to be reproduced. And then had to be kept inside the ark of God! Remember the spiritual concept of a thing repeated being final with God (Pharaoh's dreams interpretation)? 4. There is none among the 10 commandments which we have reinterpreted like the Sabbath commandment. If laws about idol worship, murder, adultery, honor of parents, etc are all considered inerrant/final and not modifiable based on our interpretations, why should this one command be different? 5. God who divinely orchestrated that time on Earth will be reckoned around the lifetime of Christ (AD / BC) also ensured that Saturday is universally made a non-working day. With all of these it seems to me there's no reason other than going with the crowd to not observe Saturday as the day of rest as God designed it from the creation of the universe. We should obey God in all things for which His word is clear on meaning and application, our contemporary culture/ideas notwithstanding. Yes, Jesus gave more context to help our understanding of the aim of the Sabbath but He never repealed it. Just like He didn't repeal the commandment against adultery when He saved the woman caught in it from being stoned.
I was raised a 7th Day Adventist, and it is my belief that every denomination is a cult. They all have the opportunity for salvation, but it comes only by Jesus Christ, and not by any denomination. Many recognize Jesus as the way, but they also subscribe to the theology of their church guru's... I believe it is about a relationship with Each of us and Jesus. The word of God is the letter He has preserved for us, and we can hear and be heard through prayer! We can access Jesus through those tools. We do not need churches to access YHWH, just His Son, Jesus.
1 - 16 - 24 #1 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( Do you agree ? ) SIMPLE Yes...or....no #2 Do you believe in the GODHEAD? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no #3 Do you believe in the PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ on a SUNDAY that he AROSE on the FIRST day of the WEEK being SUNDAY under Jewish CALENDAR SIMPLE Yes...or....no #4 Do you DENY the Divinity of Jesus Christ ? SIMPLE Yes.....or....no #5 Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD ? SIMPLE Yes...or....no BIBLICAL GOSPEL 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 Just wondering, is this your own creation (the questionnaire format) or else where did you find it? Seems very useful and I would like to be able to attribute it correctly. Thank you 🙏🏼
@@dukeon 4 - 30 - 24 It wouldn't make sense to say Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPT WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD ACCEPTED would be more accurate As in Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD
@@dukeon 4 - 30 - 24 I asked these questions based on the opening comment , because I know where he is coming from Every comment is different based on their bias
Excellent summary, one that I've been looking for for a while. I think you presented this in a very fact-based manner, under the belief that the current cannon is the only true authority. Thank you for the work it took to provide a concise summary.
I thank God for being an SDA. Regardless of the attacks, true SDAs cling to our beliefs that are drawn from the bible. EGW was a passionate bible advocate. I challenge anyone to set aside their preconceived ideas about her and read her writings. I suggest to start with Steps to Christ, then read the Desire of Ages and then the Great Controversy. I also thank God for the Sabbath because that helps me to recharge after working during the week. I am then able to focus on serving others and spending quality time with God throughout the day: through reading my bible and prayer, or walking in nature or being with my family or church family.
I was an SDA for almost 20 years. That religion is of Satan. No disrespect to you but you need to look deeper in that religion. The foundation of the SDA is built on a dangerous lie. I pray you find yourself out of that cult.
8 - 23 - 23 #1 All your doing is the Old Regurgitation of Indoctrination of Adventism by claiming someone is attacking you merely by stating the FACTS in this video of which you haven't even REFUTED #2 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
True Christians have their beliefs from the Bible, too. But we disagree with you. Main reason is we believe if something in the OT is not confirmed in the NT, it is no longer a commandment. Sabbath is not confirmed to a day in the NT. Look up Sabbath in a bible cincordance. It refers to a day and the days in between the Sabbath in the new testament.. That is where we get 7 days a rest a week, as Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. You must know what words mean. That said, you can observe the Sabbath in truth and God will be pleased, unless you are disobeying God in life. God gives rest, not a day.
I Thank my Lord that I was liberated from Adventism about 14 years ago. What a Blessing it is to be free in the Lord. I urge Adventists to put aside Ellen White's private interpretations and anti biblical ideology, and instead focus on what the Bible actually says. Start by reading the gospels to understand the love and ministry of Jesus. I would then switch to Paul's letters to understand the pillars of Christianity and Main Believes. The source of truth is the Bible and Bible alone!
Mormons are told bear false witness its called testamony. They will sell there pure bullshit try convince. They will not tell truth newnamenoah is lds that does tell truth. Endowment was recorded live shows lucifer being god who answers adam and eves prayers. Most of it unbiblical in Lds
I was a Pentecostal Christian for a long time, and had a lot of questions about death, resurrection, prophecy ... Then I found the truth in the SDA church all my questions were answered so easily. Before, the book of revelations and Daniel were not even attempted to be explained in church. For all those wanting to know the truth I encourage you to read the bible for your self and not listen to a person point of view of what is out there. Have an open mind in seeking the truth in the bible and God will guide you.
I had read the entire Bible many times before I heard of the SDA church. The Bible says that the true and living God is omniscient. God already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4 For me to say that God needs to do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those that are saved would be blasphemy. God knows all things. God never needs to investigate anything ever. The 2300 days prophecy is a historical event that occurred between 145 BC until 151 BC. (6 years, 3 months, 18 days) It was a time of great persecution by Antiochus. He desecrated the temple. For 2300 days and nights the morning and evening sacrifices did not occur. Judas Maccabeus is credited with victory over this evil. Jews celebrated this victory. It's called the Feast of Dedication. Jesus celebrated this event himself each year. John 10:22-42 This year it will be celebrated from November 25 - December 2, 2023. For Ellen White to come along and say that the days mean 'years' and arbitrarily say the 'years' started in 457 BC is completely wrong and offensive. You can't change historical events. By reading the Bible, we know that hell is just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46 Jesus said so. God's holiness requires justice. Those who reject what Jesus Christ did for them on the cross will spend eternity in conscious torment in hell paying for their own sins. Everyone is a soul. Their soul is eternal. They will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus said. Those who are born again are immediately sealed with God's Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14. The seal of God is not keeping the Sabbath. That is not in the Bible. There will never come a time when those who keep the Sabbath will be killed by those who worship on Sunday, once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect. Cults always have a persecution complex. "Nobody likes us." This event is nowhere in the Bible. By the same token, God will never destroy with fire those who worship him on Sunday, as Ellen White taught. What kind of a God does that? God had commanded that women are to be silent in the church. I Corinthians 14:34 I follow Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said, Take up your cross and follow me. John 10:27-29 My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. And I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish neither shall any man pluck them out of my Father's hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel. That is what Jesus did. Mark 1:14-15 That is what the apostle Paul preached. Acts 20:20-21 "I preach Christ crucified." Jesus Christ never said to preach prophecy. Everyone you see is a soul. Their soul is eternal. They will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus said. Cults also focus on end-times events rather than the gospel. They don't care about the souls of men. After all, once you get rid of hell there is nothing to fear. 😢 Remember the words of Jesus. "Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
I had a comparative religion class in HS. Father Thier was our teacher. He told us that SDAs all have ascension robes. And even few years they stand on a hilltop and wait for Jesus to come back. . .then I met an Adventist and I asked her. She was surprised that anyone would say that. I always go directly to source to discover what they believe
Asking "Father" Thier or any other priest about the SDA is a bit like asking a prisoner if they are guilty. Although most of their leadership has gone apostate, the SDA are the only protestant denomination that still (correctly) identifies the papal system as antichrist.
The SDA arose out of the Millerite movement which mistook the 1844 end of the 2300 years of Daniel 9 : 24 to 27 Prophecy to be the return of Jesus = the Ascension. When they studied the Prophecy the group who understood the prophecy became 7 th day Adventist.And any Christian who can unravel Daniel 9:24 to 27 would become Adventists.
@@rajdialnandram5676 they got it wrong, the year the decree was issued to Nehemiah not Ezra in 454 bc not 457. It was Nisan 14th at the 9th hour noted in the scriptures for those who have wisdom. Exactly 483 years later JESUS dies on the ✝️Nisan 14th at the 9th hour 31 ad. The prophecy says after 69 week Messiah cut off no baptized , and HE preformed to the day and hour. Ezek. 4:1-5 390 years began the same year 454 bc as a second witness. It was fulfilled in a Pompey iron pan siege in 63 bc. The prophecy says the arm is revealed in Ezek. 4:7 being the same arm in Isa. 53:1. There was a blood moon tetrad over Nehemiah's head Passover in 454 bc; see NASA 5 Millennium lunar eclipse; 453 bc. Dan. 9:27 is passion week 7 literal days. The many are Gentile believers. The covenant is Isa. 55:1-7 What confirmed it was the sure mercies of David after the week Resurrection Sunday at the breaking of the dawn. The Midst of the week was a Wednesday\Thursday Passover and ✝allowing for 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth. Not EGW's Friday Catholic error seh copied. 1st Pet. 3:18,19 HE taught the conscious spirits in Abrahams' bosom and HE didn't lie to the thief on the ✝️, Ellen lied. The sacrifical system ceased on a Thursday ✝️with it is Finished. The abominations were 40 years of crimson thread worthless animal sacrifices. HE WORD YHWH made thy Holy City desolate of thy people even until the consummation aka 70th week. There is no date for Steven's death ending the 70th week in scripture. Sda invented it to made their errors fit. That determed is Lk. 21:24 fulfilled by the Rapture and Jerusalem anexed back to an Israel Ellen prophesy would never be rebuilt or occupied. Which is antichrist to JESUS prophesy many times it would in Lk. 21:24, Micah 5:3, Isa. 66:8, Rev. 12:2-4 to list a few. be poured upon the desolate is the Gospel poured upon the children of the desolate Isa. 54:1. The Gentiles.
Amen. Thank you JESUS, I learned young in life and experienced that GOD, OUR FATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS, through HIS HOLY SPIRIT is real. When we search HIM with our WHOLE HEART, we will find HIM. HE answers us. ❤.
Interesting, Pastor Mike. A few points: There have been different people who have greatly impacted or changed beliefs and/or doctrines, i.e. Luther, Wesley, Tindale, Calvin, Smith, Darby (rapture theory and dispensational belief), Scoffield (included Darby's theory & teachings as notes in the Scoffield Bible), Miller (a Baptist preacher, year for a day teaching re: 2300 "days"), Edsen (Jesus moved to inner sanctuary Oct 22, 1844 for Investigative Judgment work), E.G. White, and others. Following the teachings of a person regarding beliefs and faith does not necessarily make it a cult. Can one's Christian faith stand on the Word of God? Is it influenced by teachings of men (or women)? Are those teachings sound biblically? How close to the original scriptures is the version of the bible being used? Re: Sabbath, it was established and demonstrated by Father & Son in creation, sanctified and blessed, given as a commandment on tablets of stone, written with His own finger, twice, placed in the ark of the covenant. When did God authorize or instruct not to observe it? Did Jesus observe it? Malachi 3:6 Who is adopted into Israel? Re: Eternal hell-Malachi 4:1, John 3:16. EG White was not the (only) founder of SDA. The founders stemmed from Millerites, the Jehovah's Witnesses stemmed from SDA. The Baptists stemmed from Calvin, Darby, Scoffield and others. There were many doctrines and beliefs that sprouted and took root in the 1800s. The more I study, the more it seems there have been many earnestly seeking a renewed relationship with God, and there are many false teachings. I have yet to find a church, denomination, or group of believers that seem to have everything right. Paul's letters prove that problems existed from the 1st century church, and it exists today. Let us search the scriptures for God's truths, uplift the brethren, pray for each other that we be not haughty, nor judgmental, love without ceasing, and witnesses to the grace of the Father through the blood of His Son, following in His footsteps and His commands.
Much of what Ellen White taught is nowhere to be found in scripture. The true and living God is omniscient. God already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4 It is blasphemy to say that God needs to do an 'Investigative Judgment' to figure out those who are saved. God never needs to investigate anything ever. God knows all things. Jesus Christ never started the 'Investigative Judgment' on October 22, 1844. (The word 'Investigative' and the date, October 22, 1844, are nowhere in the Bible.) Jesus Christ never entered the Most Holy Place on October 22, 1844 either. All throughout the New Testament it says that Jesus is seated at the right hand of God. Jesus was not living in an 'apartment' and then entered the Most Holy Place on October 22, 1844. Jesus Christ ascended immediately into the Most Holy Place. The seal of God is not keeping the Sabbath. Those who are born again are immediately sealed with God's Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14 God will never destroy with fire Christians who worship God on Sunday, as Ellen White taught. What kind of a God does that? And neither will those who worship on the Sabbath be killed by those who worship on Sunday, once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect. This is fake news. The 2300 days prophecy occurred from 145 BC until 151 BC. (6 years, 3 months and 18 days.) Antiochus desecrated the temple for that period of time. Judas Maccabbeus was victorious over the shocking event. This victory, called the Feast of Dedication, has been celebrated each year since then. Jesus celebrated it. John 10:22-42. This year it will be celebrated from November 25 - December 2, 2023. The idea that you can change the days to 'years' and arbitrarily say that the 'years' started in 457 BC is shocking. We are commanded not to add or change anything to Holy Scripture. We know that Jesus warned of hell more than anyone else. Jesus said that hell was just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46 Jesus even said that it was better to cut out your eye and cut off your hand than to end up there. You wouldn't do that if you were just going to be annihilated. Hell was very real to Jesus. Luke 16 I could go on and on. I urge you to read your Bible as a child. Nothing is more important than where you spend eternity.
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. The Sabbath was a sign between the nation of Israel and God. We are no longer under the Old Testament. We have a new covenant, the New Testament. We are under the law of Christ. There are 53 commands of Christ in the New Testament. Not one of them mentions keeping the Sabbath. Why isn't keeping the Sabbath mentioned in the New Testament? If God is going to destroy those who worship on Sunday with fire, Jesus would've said so. 💕
@@Elizabeth-rk3do Hi Elizabeth. Thank you for your reply. Perhaps we can clear something up right away. I am not SDA, so the use of "you" this and "you" that is unnecessary, and a misjudgment. I agree with a good number of things you said, tho not all. I reviewed the bible references you gave. Thank you. My husband and I have had many discussions about the Lazarus and rich man verses, whether they were fact or parable. In the same chapter are other important verses, Luke 16:9 (everlasting habitations), 13 (cannot serve God and mammon), 15 (God knoweth your hearts), 17 (easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail), 18 (Jesus expanded the commandment on adultery, as he did with hatred is murder in the heart). Matt. 25:41 (everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels), 46 everlasting punishment v. life eternal - if one is punished by being burned up till they have no root or branch (Malachi 4:1), Malachi 4:3 (ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet), isn't that an "eternal" punishment in that they don't receive eternal life? If they are continually burned forever, they would have eternal life... of punishment. But the term "perish" is used in John 3:16 and 10:28. Rev. 20:10 says the devil, beast and false prophet are in the lake of fire, "tormented day and night for ever and ever." Rev. 20:14 death and he'll are cast into the lake of fire. They are NOT the lake of fire. Rev. 20:15 judgment - those not in book of life are then cast into lake of fire. Note, it doesn't say they will be tormented forever as it does for devil, beast and false prophet. Re: Sabbath, having read and studied from Gen. 1:1 - Rev. 22:21, we find that the day of rest was established by God and Jesus in creation. It's not just for the jews. Jesus, the apostles, and Paul all honored it. Nowhere in the scriptures did God instruct to change the day to the 1st of the week. A brilliant pastor, Chuck Misler, found the same, so he and his wife honored the Sabbath. 1 John 5:3 says, "for this the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." Is substituting Sunday for Sabbath acceptable or a rebellion to God? That is something to consider, and for God to judge. Just as we are to try the spirits (1 John 4:1), whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world, so, too, we are told in 1 John 3:24 he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. I personally do not believe EGW was a prophetess, but believe she experienced many partial complex seizures due to her head injury and was misguided by her mother and others around her into thinking they were visions from God. I also believe she was an impressionable teen when they began. Many were reeling from the "Great Disappointment," and trying to figure out what went wrong. Hiram Edsen was one of them, and so was James White. I wonder what influence they may have had on Ellen. By her writings, it seems she thoroughly loved God and Jesus. Thank you, Elizabeth, for engaging in conversation on these things. It's a good day when we are in God's word. We may not agree or understand all things in God's word, but, clearly, we both love the Lord God and His Son. May you be blessed.
@@karenbuckner1959 I scanned your comment and only 2 things did God direct my eyes to, to comment on, as far as I can tell. I have read that White questioned God on eternal torment, as every SDA I have ever talked to brings up. Oh, surely God won't.... Oh, yes SDA, He will. It is written. Nowhere in the Bible, which is confirmed in the new covenant, the NT, does it say that unbelievers will not be tormented forever. It does speak of everlasting fire in Mark 9:43-47, for the disobedient ones. Take the word as it's written and then ask God, want the truth over your preferences, God will then give you His truth. May God bless you.
Just to make myself clear, I'm not SDA. I'm just curious, do you still believe in keeping all ten of Yahweh's commandments, including the fourth commandment, that He wrote with His own finger in stone as well as the rest of His laws?
The Sabbath is part of Worship in obedience through Grace and in Jesus Christ. I found it in Biblestudy and obey as much as I understand. Then SDA found me and kept at it. I tried but could not settle on EGW and other of their doctrines. I believe the Vible and that The Holy Spirit is faithful in His leading and teaching the Truth from the Bible. Much I don’t know, but this I do: Since I left, I am not a person of nobody even wants to know.
@@elizabethdewet1659 good, sounds like you're on the right track. There are others but two good channels to watch are unlearn the lies and 119 ministries. Like I said, I'm not SDA, but I do give them credit for waking me up from the deception. There are things I disagree with them about and a major one is they don't believe that we should be keeping Yahweh's seven annual Sabbaths that He commands us to keep. If you understand what they are about, it makes absolutely no sense to not keep them.
@@robertschmidt9296Colossians 2:16-17. Let no man judge you in meats, drinks and sabbath day. The fourth commandment is the only one not enjoined on the New Testament church in the New Testament. Read also Acts 15. The apostles said absolutely nothing about the Sabbath in their instructions to the Gentiles. Jesus is our Sabbath. We find rest in Him
As a Seventh -day Adventist,l neither get offended nor ashamed to believe in the scriptures in the very way they're presented without tilting them in interpretation to suit human tradition.The world needs the truth and not debate nor condemnation of the brother presenting.Humans study and they will discover the truth as long as every committed teacher of the truth does his role in the gospel commission.I thank God l am a Seventh day Adventist.
Only the wicked ungodly unrighteous devils children don't know God to keep God Sabbath Exodus 31:12-18 You need your eyes to see better to study the scriptures Eyes glasses is not of God so you need the holy Ghost out of the God head to heal your soul of your eyes
Every religious organizations has their own doctrines , believes, traditions, customs and occasions that makes them united in their worship.however,at this end point of times,they were all in common by patronizing the COVID-19 vaccines and whatever religious group anyone belongs,everyone has been vaccinated with some booster shots.revelation13:16,17
Here a SDA member. I am so happy to belong to this so called cult. We study from the Bible and Ellen G White just provides a wider spectrum to understand. We can never get the credit that it was originally coming from G White. The Bible is the truth and we go by the Bible. We don’t approve of doctrines that are not proven with the Bible. If one is enlightened then prove it with the Bible. I am so sorry for those who have not spent at least one week studying the Bible and claiming to the truth, because then you will be a SDA .
This is the thing with SDA, you lots believe you are a Adventist first and then a Christian after, any religion that tries to put their beliefs on a pedestal must be investigated, EGW doctrines has deceptive poison in them, many truths with a sprinkle of Lie, that is why u believe in her teachings, until you read the Bible for yourself you’ll realize that writings were not God inspired, my friend I implore you pray earnestly so that God will reveal the truth to you.
If people were to study the Bible and accept the truth there would be no Sunday keepers. It is interesting to hear this brother naming the SDA church as a cult but I think they do this just as a salve for their conscience!
@@7ashoBeamHe is running scared because SDA pastors are calling out his church so it's a retaliation. You hit me, I hit back. It's another way the devil tries sidetracking people and letting these pastors continue brainwashing their members so they stay away from the SDA members and evangelistic series.
Hallelujah. Tysm for this! God loves us sm that he gave his one and only Son so that we can b forgiven and saved! Praise Yeshua! Praise Yahweh! Praise Roh Kudus! God bless u man❤️💯!
Also permanently stop sinning, getting baptized, and have 100% relationship with him. Everything that we do in heaven, we are supposed to do the same thing here on earth. Never walk and do worldly activities with carnal people. Permanently stay out of world traditions.
@@marciturner4980 3 - 7 - 24 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS........ SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
@@marciturner4980 3 - 10 - 24 #1 So in others words simply going to an SDA church on Saturday's males one SINLESS WITHOUT SIN and by default means one is KEEPING and OBEYING ALL the Commandments of the Commandments of God ? #2 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS......... SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes.....or......no #3 LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS........ SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL, NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes.....or......no #4 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no #5 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ Chapter and verse please #6 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? Chapter and verse please #7 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #8 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no #9 Is there a reason that NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I my friend
The Seventh day Advantest church was not started by Ellen G. White. The Sabbath is not Jewish, Adam and Eve were not Jewish. The sabbath was instituted at creation.
The Adventist Church was not started by White. But Miller and White started an offshoot in the church that became the SDA Church. Might have been someone else involved. But White became the primary voice...for the new religion. God did not have anything to do with their formation.
If you seek the Truth with all your heart, you will find Him. He is the Way, the Truth And the Life. Yes there are many false teachings, even in mainstream evangelical churches too. Only those who truely seek the Truth will find Him! Great to hear how many have found the Truth of Gods Word and escaped the false doctrines of the churches. I came out of Calvinism. Pray for those who have not yet found the Truth.
1 - 11 - 24 #1 Where is your long exhausted list of ALL the GOOD WORKS that you have done that other denominations faith beliefs haven't done since the beginning of Creation ? #2 Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as Ellen G White William Miller Joseph Smith Charles Taze Russell ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@moiraravji5070 1 - 23 - 24 #3 You missed the BEST #1 topic in ALL of the Holy Bible of God's Word of Holy writ The SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that's EXACTLY how I ended my last comment..... ( Did you see it ? ) What's your excuse ? #4 Jesus Christ The Holy Apostles The Holy Apostle Paul ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ What's your excuse ? #5 NEW 19th century CULTS DO NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #6 NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY Seventh day Adventist or ANY Mormon or ANY Jehovah's Witnesses on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller or Joseph Smith ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #7 Isn't Adventism , Mormonism and the Jehovah's Witnesses SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE NEW 19th century religions denominations faith beliefs which are SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you all waiting for ? #8 You didn't ANSWER the question Where is your long exhausted list of ALL the GOOD WORKS that Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses have done that other denominations faith beliefs haven't done since the beginning of Creation of mankind ? #9 You still haven't REFUTED the FACT Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as Ellen G White William Miller Joseph Smith Charles Taze Russell Which of these three are you ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED to NOT ADMIT you belong to ? ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
Great information !!!! I know about the Mormons and JW’s (not all of what they believe but most) , wasn’t 💯 about the 7th day Adventist other than them observing the sabbath and I know absolutely nothing about Christian Science so again, thank you for this very much needed information especially for Christian apologetics This is much needed for us Christians who want to lead people to the Truth out of their cult (in truth and love of course)
3 - 10 - 24 Mormonism: Joseph Smith was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy SAME AS....... Adventism: Ellen G White was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
I’m 70 and have been in and out of the SDA church since I was 12, but a Christian in name only, until almost 9 years ago. I’ve studied the teachings in the Bible and Ellen White’s writings extensively. So I concur only that SDA teachings are as close to the Bible as any I can find. We teach righteousness by faith, that we are saved by Christ alone. Good works doesn’t contribute to our salvation, but a true Christian will have them. All other denominations I’ve studied or had any experience with err on obedience to God’s will. They would rather obey men and their philosophies instead of God in His Word. Hence the Sabbath. Twice in Revelation, God’s people are presented as keeping God’s commandments, which are the 10 commandments. Impossible in men’s effort alone, hence the need of righteousness by faith. While we are all sinners by nature, it doesn’t mean God expects us to stay that way. Christ imputes and imparts His righteousness to us. Right thinking and right doing. Also, there is nothing of works in the investigative judgement. It is all done by Christ, who is our advocate and judge. It’s not so that God can discover who will be saved because He already knows. It’s so that all the universe will know the reasons behind God’s decisions. It only make sense that this judgement takes place before Christ’s return, because that’s when the decisions for the saved will get executed. In Revelation 14, there are 3 angels (heavenly messengers with messages) that tell us the judgement has commenced in the 1st angel’s message, with 2 yet to go. In Daniel, it sets the time that this takes place as 1844. The 2300 day/year prophecy that started when king Artexerxes made the declaration for the Jews to return to Jerusalem and begin rebuilding the city and the temple. 2300 years later is 1844. There are time markers along the way in this prophecy of the 70 week prophecy that help to pinpoint the years. The last week (7 years) of the first 70 weeks (70 x 7 = 490 days:years) is the time when Jesus started His ministry at baptism , died 3 1/2 years later, then the gospel went out into all the world 3 1/2 years after He died and was resurrected. So there is biblical prophetic science of the 1844 date. Most people miss that because some people in the last 200 years have mistranslated the 70th week as a future time of some antichrist instead of seeing Jesus in it.
Actually the teaching of the last week in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 being some time in the future began in the late 1500s and early 1600s by Jesuit scholars. Look up: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_del_Alc%C3%A1zar en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Ribera en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Lacunza There was a growing Protestant movement at the time where students of bible prophecy were claiming the prophecies were pointing at the Papacy being the anti-christ of the last days. The current Pope commissioned some Jesuit scholars to look into those prophecies and come up with anything they could to discredit those teachings. Aside from inventing the 7-year tribulation they also came up with a few other things such as dividing the Medo-Persian Empire into 2 separate nations then claiming the bear in chapter 7 was the Medes, the leopard as the Persians thereby making the 4th beast Grecia and the little horn as Antiocus Epiphanes. I seem to remember also the 1,000 year reign on earth was a Jesuit teaching also.
I've come to very similar conclusion. I'm 65. Been investigating this God, bible thing since when I was 19. If I were to choose an organized religion, I would probably choose SDA. They have the Sabbath thing right. They seem to be for the most part a nonjudgmental people. Argument over one conscience on another is futile. Example : Some SDA are vegetarian. Some eat meat. But they don't push one idea or the other. I understand that the bible says you can eat what you want, but don't eat blood. My conclusion. Humans are in a forsaken state. Jesus said it when he was being killed. I don't like the word and discription " crucified ", because it has a pagan ring to it. Just what my conscience says to me. Just like I don't like the description " religion " either. We can't know the complete truth of God until we know His pure language. We have been left in the lurch. Pure language is yet for the future. I've done my best, and if my best is not good enough for God, go ahead God kill me off. Broad and spacious is road leading to destruction. Don't want to be on that road. Hope I'm not part of 2nd Corinthians 4:4. No way to tell for sure. My conscience is just as faulty as yours.
@@jesse75 Yes our conscious is faulty. But reading and studying the Bible helps set our conscious straight. May respond more later when I have the time.
@@KingArtexerxes Paul asked what appears to be his eyesight fixed renewed however you want to understand it. He had an ailment. But Jesus wouldn't fix it. Undeserved kindness was enough. It must be the same for us. The time of " fixing " is not yet. Truth is obscure and erroneous. Confronted by a faulty consciousness. We seek it like treasure. Example. As a young man I studied theology. Didn't get the complete answers I was looking for. Put myself in college and studied neurology, physiology and psychology. Now I'm able to understand. The occurrence in the garden with Adam and Eve makes complete sense. Remember. Paul said some people would not have faith. That could be caused from a brain abnormality, or lack of a motivation or desire. Man has a capacity of worship. That points to a God installation. The amygdala is like a rock you find. You pick it up and underneath it says "Made by God ". See Cargo Cults. This is man's raw need for worship. Alex Honnold. How did he do this amazing feat of daring ? A brain abnormality. MRI proof. Phineas Gage is a classic study of brain trauma. Before and after effects. Einstein had more gray matter than you or me. We have the technology now to look into the brain. The MRI don't lie. Why is there such a great divide ? This labeled republican democrat thing. It is because of brain activity. For some reason, democrats use the anterior Cingular cortex part of the brain as the defense and reasoning mechanism. The republicans use a different part of the brain. Then we have genetic triggers. People are at the mercy of them. Reading and studying the Bible, meditation and prayer certainly has a healing effect. Just like eating good food.
Amen! Praise 7:31 Glory to God. Many of these so call Pastors will have blood on the hands and will definitely not make it to Heaven. These are true devil's agent.
I am a “BORN-AGAIN SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIAN” and I Believe that the BIBLE is the “UNADULTERATED INFALLIBLE WORD of GOD, inspired by THE PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT” I believe it from GENESIS to REVELATION, and NO ONE can tell me anything Different. Thank GOD for the PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT’s work n the lives and hearts of men & women, boys and girls everywhere, who will Bring “TRUTH, and REVELATION KNOWLEDGE, and CONVICTION!! Your Article was very INFORMATIVE. 👏🏼👏🏼
12 - 13 - 23 Three days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets Ellen G White William Miller Joseph Smith Jehovah's Witnesses ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friends !
THANK YOU FOR THIS STUDY. I REALLY ENJOYED IT THESE STUDIES ARE IMPORTANT SO WE CAN NOT ONLY BE WATCHFUL BUT ASLO ABLE TO MINISTER TO THESE SOULS THAT ARE LOST IN THESE CULTS
If you believe history is helpful you might find this interesting. It's long, but it takes you through history. ua-cam.com/video/_8Ixc5MSk2k/v-deo.html
One thing I take away is where the KJV bible says BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND BE SAVED. That's according to to my Sunday school worship in my Baptist Church
1 - 10 - 24 #1 CULTS do NOT SPREAD or PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ #2 You will 100 % NOT find ONE Mormon Jehovah's Witnesses Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these Threads/ Comments SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Study the bible with prayers for God's guidance. Youll ended up an SDA.... But for SDA's beware false babylonian doctrines creeping inside the church by the leaders. Enemies inside the church like Jesus encounters in his first advent. It will be repeat in the lasts days like our time today. Godbless us all🙏
Are you aware that Ellen g white died not believing Jesus is God but a servant of God. Which disqualified her from entering the kingdom of God according to New Testament Trinity in Sda started in 1980 Read eph 2:8-10 you will be a reformed sda
11 - 19 - 23 #1 You must have had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING better to do YESTERDAY on the SATURDAY you claim to keep Holy being BORED and LOCKED in your technology WORKING your technology and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING / PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #2 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for ? #3 You mentioned BABYLON RCC : Mary the Mother of God SDA : Ellen G White the Prophetess of God #4 RCC : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church SAME AS........... SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church #5 RCC : Has their seat in ROME SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND #6 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #7 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #8 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend Chapter and verse please #9 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes....or.....no my friend #10 Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #11 Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend Biblical Gospel 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Biblical Gospel 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
@@zouisingto3055 12 - 14 - 23 #12 Feel free to ANSWER those VERY SIMPLE questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks 1 Peter 3 : 15
That's a very popular misquote of that scripture. Look it up in the KJV and read it word for word. The words, "... and to be present with the Lord," shows that the "and" is a conjunction between what is prior to, _and after,_ the "and". The former does not equal the latter, as Paul was simply expressing his desire to be with the Lord.
@@AlmondJoie 3 - 25 - 24 LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus = YESHUA SAME AS......... SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism ( NOT Jesus )
@@porfiriojohn5276 the Sabbath is the 7th Day as Created by Jesus during the Creation of the Earth . You can call Sunday anything you want and pretend it is the Sabbath Day. But it will always be Saturday. Isaiah 66:23 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD . HEBREWS 4 1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, If they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest. 6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, Harden not your hearts. 8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
@@Don-zc6or 5 - 6 - 24 The Largest Theologiacal Library in Houston, TX at the Mark Lanier Theologiacal Library has part of the Book of Amos of the Dead Sea Scrolls and he knows fluent Hebrew and Greek
Seventh day Adventist is not a cult. This movement follows the Bible and the ten commandments with three Angels messages from Rev 14 :6-12. People calling Seventh day Adventist a cult have changed the laws and doctrines which is not according to God's holy scriptures.
It's the 10 commandments are your problem. They do not apply to gentiles. They were for jews only. Ot superseded by the nt. Gentiles are saved by grace and grace alone through faith. Not of works lest anyone boast. Salvation is by jesus christ only.
Cult member here from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints. I am so thankful to be a member of this cult. It’s brought me much peace and understanding in my life and most importantly has brought me closer to my savior Jesus Christ. I appreciate that you are doing your best to follow Christ the best you know how. I encourage everyone interested in learning the truth about my cult to do your own research from primary sources, not from professional pastors who have a incentive to spread lies for clicks, follows, and $$
10 - 25 - 23 #1 You mean MORMON Hello.....the Book of MORMON #2 You will not be a "" god "" of your own POLYGAMIST planet with goddess wives Mathew 22 : 30 #3 Russell Nelson said MORMONISM is Catholicism when POPE Francis met with your MORMON leadership at the dedication of your NEW MORMON Temple in ROME when POPE Francis was invited And I QUOTE Russell Nelson "" We MORMONS have MUCH in COMMON with Catholicism . The differences in doctrine are real - and they're important- BUT they're not as important as the things we MORMONS have in common with Catholicism "" Oops 😬 sorry 😞...... He said this March 9 , 2019 at your NEW MORMON Temple in ROME ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my MORMON friends!
None of your fabulous life acknowledges that your beliefs are far different than what is taught in God's Holy Word. If you read an unbiased history of Joseph Smith, you will realize he was just one of many charlatans, and not a very smart one. Likely an associate (Cowdry) wrote the book, because Joseph was almost illiterate. Neighbors described Joseph and his father as "dreamers and sloths, always digging for treasure in the NY hills." I suppose witchcraft brings many people peace and understanding also (according to them). You DO know that Native Americans have NO DNA connection to Israelites? Many other faux pas by Smith are evident in The (fake) Book of Abraham, where he says Native Americans had cattle and horses and various plants that were NOWHERE in the New World. The Bible is verifiable; the writings of this imposter are laughable. I do NOT think God will deal kindly with mere mortals who term His Holy Word as "corrupted", including Islam and Mormonism. I certainly cannot comprehend an ego that big or misguided. Only the 66 books, and only Christ's sacrifice!!!!!!!
I'm a SDA Christian. Thank you for your opinions. Be careful how you address any of God's children, broken as they may be they are still the apple of His eye. Faithful souls have always constituted God's church on earth. Acts of the Apostles pg 11 EG White. Read the Word, follow it's teachings, be faithful to the end.
8 - 23 - 23 #1 Adventism is not Christian #2 Adventism is just the Old Regurgitation of Indoctrination of the writings of Ellen G White that has their own little Fundamental Belief system surrounding itself around Ellen G White just like her contemporary Joseph Smith ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
You also validated his point and contradicted your own when you said, "read the word," and then cited Ellen Whtie's writings. Why do we need her writings? We already have the greater light of God's word. Do you believe that your sins, past, present, and future, have been blotted out on the cross, that they will never be counted against you, and that you have full assurance of salvation?
@@toddott633 I am an SDA member I totally believe that in Christ my sins have been forgiven But that does not tell me to go back a steal, lie, kill and disobey God But I believe that in Him ( Christ), I am given power to live a life that I once knew it was impossible to live To live with peace with God I only praise God that away of salvation could be found in Christ and through His word ( the bible ) am told how to live the new life Through the word we are told of the war that is their and we are told also of the spirit of prophecy in the ends times Let's come in unity and study the word diligently and appreciate the works of God in our lives
The seventh day Adventist church believes in the Bible both the new testament and the old testament , The people believe that Ellen G White's teachings are a lesser light which help the church understand the greater light , ie the BIBLE Even if you go to investigate their beliefs , you can't help but see that they were derived from the Bible
@Michael Phiri Then you don't know your bible. Did JESUS describe Abraham's bosom for not? Lazarus was in Abraham's bosom conscious in the Paradise side of deaths prison. The rich man also conscious knew where he was and why he was in torment. JESUS said to the thief on the cross "verily, I say to you TODAY thou shall be with me in Paradice". Ellen makes CHRIST a liar to the thief on the cross. She says no, you must soul sleep "annihilated" 1813+ years to have your life investigated for spot or blemish to be found worthy of HIS grace and mercy. This is a false Gospel and EGW is accursed. 1st Pet. 3:18:19 says CHRIST was quickened in spirit then desended to Abrahams bosom to teach the spirits in the heart of the earth. Who is the LIAR? JESUS and HIS WORD or EGW and SDA?
@@rickhuntling7338 by closely zooming in to those passages you will be able what is really going on. Jesus never meant or wanted to contradict the scriptures (old testament) And so did the writers of the old testament.
@@ivickkhomo963 there is no contradiction until SDA & JW start twisting scripture. Let me guess your going to cherry pick out of context Ecc. 9:5 LOL. Hint "let the dead bury the dead", CHRIST WORDs not mine. Zoom in kid, don't just accuse and run.
Praying for you. Let the Holy Spirit be your teacher. Revelation 14:12. Keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. Praying earnestly, because Jesus is coming soon. 🙏
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2 The New Testament church worshiped on the Lord's Day. I Corinthians 16:2; Revelation 4 The Sabbath was a sign between the nation of Israel and God. It was a day of rest, not worship. Exodus 16:29 - Anyone who left their home was stoned to death. We are no longer under the law. There is a new covenant, the New Testament. We are under the law of Christ. There are 53 commands of Christ. Interestingly, not one of them mentions keeping the Sabbath. Romans 7:4 We are dead to the law.
@@AnithaJesudasan-vq4jz 12 - 31 - 23 #1 So Seventh day Adventists keep ALL the LAW of God Commandments of God by merely going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! "" ny default making them SINLESS and WITHOUT SIN ? Really.........? What about the other NINE Commandments ? Will you pass one day because of the wages of SIN ? #2 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists do NOT SIN EVERYDAY knowingly or unknowingly ? #3 So the testimony of Jesus Christ is Ellen G White ? #4 You are STUCK on a NEW 19th century FALSE religion with a NEW 19th century FALSE prophet such as Ellen G White William Miller RATHER than a personal relationship with Jesus Christ ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42
@@Elizabeth-rk3do so we have no obligation to the commandments? hmmm. I suppose Mat 5:17 words of Jesus don't count either then. Sure, we can worship every day, but I think that is different from sabbath. I think a close examination of the book of Acts shows the early disciples kept the appointed times. Are we not grafted in to Israel? If you are in Christ you are Abraham's seed. The day of the Lord mentioned in Rev is a vision of the day of judgement, referenced in Is 13:6.
ADVENTISM Is NOT A Cult!!! It is a Christian Faith That believes in God the Father, God the Son and The Holy Spirit.They keep the Same Sabbath as Jesus did when he walked the earth,The 4th Commandmen!!!
@@smidtrovich the Bible is God's Holy Word.those that toss Adventism in with Cults lack Understanding.We believe in God the Father God the Son,who Is Jesus Christ,And the Holy Spirit,The Trinity.We Worship on The Sabbath,the Same As Jesus Did,Which is The 4th of the 10 Commandments.
@@Pastor_Grant Do you know that SDA people are some of the longest living people on earth because they follow the guide by EGW. They don’t worship her, but use her teachings to guide them which is backed by scripture. SDA is one of the purest religions out there. Ever wonder why Sunday is considered the 7th day when it is clearly the first day of the week in the calendar until this day but we were brainwashed to believe that it’s the 7th day. Sunday law will happen and it’s all after worship which will force everyone to worship on Sunday or else face persecution. That’s because the true sabbath is being suppressed.
Am grateful to the Lord that I have been a Seventh day adventist for 48 years of my life and that I believe that people is judge by the law and the testimony. Time will come when God will separate the bad weed from the wheat.
12 - 10 - 23 #1 You should be GRATEFUL to be a CHRISTIAN FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST and to be GRATEFUL to say that you are a BORN AGAIN Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY #2 LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS......... SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ? SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend #3 LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT SAME AS........ SDA : Are your sins blotted out? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #4 Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive GRACE ? SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend #5 Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎? SIMPLE Yes....or....no Chapter and verse please #6 The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable 1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18 #7 Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ? SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend #8 Who chose Judas to be an Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ? Chapter and verse please ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
12 - 10 - 23 #9 LDS : NEW 19th century religion ( 1830 ) SAME AS........ SDA : NEW 19th century religion ( 1863 ) SAME AS......... JWS : NEW 19th century religion ( 1875 ) #10 LDS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church SAME AS......... SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church SAME AS..... JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church #11 LDS : Has their seat in UTAH SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK ANSWER Romans 1 : 1 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
12 - 10 - 23 #12 LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS ( Early writings 39 : 2 ) #13 Using the Bible ONLY Using the Bible FIRST As Adventists claim to do WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611, or in the Hebrew, Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so ( Chapter and verse please ) If you don't mind Thank you in advance ANSWER Philemon 1 : 13 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Am sorry but you are a lost soul. You need Jesus to find you. The old Testament said we must keep the sabbath holy, which you guys are proud of it. The question is if you believe in Jesus Christ, what can you say when the saviour Jesus worked on sabbath where He heal aman in john 5? And the jews was angry with him for doing that on sabbath which to his response He said my father until now is still working meaning you must work whether is sartaday or not. And if you don't know that the sabbath was a sigh between the children of Israel and God. And am sure you are not an Israelite. Again in the new Testament in Hebrews it says "if the old Testament had no fault there's was no need for a new Testament" Which means the law was abolished on the cross. And we got a new law remember the sabbath law was given to mosses and we don't follow mosses cz mosses is not our saviour but we follow Jesus and His laws which is to love God, your neighbour's and to keep this laws. So you guys are a lost generation. The sabbath you are busy with it will not take you to Christ cz it was a sigh but the really rest is found in Jesus Christ.
Jesus said "I am the door". No thinking person believes he meant he was literally a door! The point is while the Bible is the Word of God, it is also literature, there are parables, there is poetry, there is wisdom, there are metaphors, there is incredible examples of healing too. "I am the Lord that healeth thee". It is such a breathtaking fount of morality and salvation.
😢 it is so sad when pastors like this have so little knowledge of what they are actually talking about. This one needs to do his homework before speaking again!
12 - 29 - 23 #1 The Bible uses parables and metaphors to convey LITERAL things that has happened , and will happen #2 Jesus says "" I AM the RESURRECTION "" John 11 : 25 He ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY RESURRECTED on a SUNDAY
@@ruthdance3936 12 - 29 - 23 #3 What EXACTLY did the gentleman in this video say that was WRONG about Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ? #4 Adventism Mormonism Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as Ellen G White William Miller Joseph Smith Charles Taze Russell ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
YES! I think many would find it interesting and very enlightening if they took the time to understand Hebrew grammar, idioms, how they used parables etc. Our English language has watered down, and in some cases completely twisted, so many wonderful truths. May Yah bless you and be with you ❤️
The SDA church has changed many things. Remember, they taught that Jesus would return on April 23, 1843. Then, they said that Jesus would return on March 21, 1844. Then they said that Jesus would return on October 22, 1844. Then they said that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844. Part of being in a cult is that their teachings change over time.
@@Elizabeth-rk3doTo you and all Sunday keepers. The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐨, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐳𝐞𝐝 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐨𝐰𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐲 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐜𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡!" Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, History of the Sabbath, p. 802 "The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed the Sabbath into Sunday, 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐲 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐲 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲." Canon and Tradition, p. 263 "Is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐦𝐚𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐝 𝐚 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐳𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐬 𝐞𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐨𝐛𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐚 𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐰𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐲." -James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp. 72, 73. "𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲...𝐢𝐬 𝐩𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐚 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡." American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883 "𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲...𝐈𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐰 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐞..." American Sentinel (Catholic) June 1893 The Word of God says: Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." The word of Rome says: "𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐨𝐩𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬, 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐛𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary. Elizabeth-rk3do, By the way, There was no SDA church at the time of those events you mentioned. It didn't start until after the Millerite disappointment. 𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐧'𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝟏𝟖𝟒𝟒, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐌𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐯𝐞𝐝, but it left its mark on American history. Then, It sparked the beginning of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, which is a thriving Christian denomination today.
@@Elizabeth-rk3doim an SDA since 1980& was never taught what you posted ma'am! Be careful what you read or what someone else tells you with no proof!!
@Draco41 These are core beliefs. I only use original sources from Ellen White and the SDA church. I don't like second-hand information. I haven't listed Ellen White's stranger and fictitious teachings. Of course, it won't matter what any church teaches the moment you die and meet God. It will only matter what God has already told us. You should read your Bible. Nothing is more important than where you spend eternity.
@Nagin-zt6sc I embrace the Bible. I have read the entire Bible times 40 times now. God has commanded us not to follow false prophets. Deuteronomy 18 In fact, if they got one prophecy wrong, they were to be put to death. God has also commanded that women are to be silent in the church. I Corinthians 14:34 I know more about the Bible than Ellen White and the other SDA leaders ever did. That is why I could never become a Seventh Day Adventist. The true and living God of the Bible is omniscient. He already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4 God never needs to 'investigate' anything ever. To say otherwise is blasphemy, breaking the third commandment. I know that God will never destroy me with fire for worshiping him on Sunday. I know that Jesus Christ said that hell was just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46 I know that there is no 'soul sleep.' I will be even more alive after my death. I know that those who worship God on the Sabbath will never be destroyed by those who worship God on Sunday once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect. I already know that my sins have been forgiven. I know that I have eternal life and will live forever with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 💕 "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord."
Russel liked to do prophecies and one was that the world was going to end in 1918. Here we are in 2024. You'd think that he'd be concerned what was going to happen in 1916....he died. If he can't predict his own demise he's no prophet. His lawyer, Rutherford, took over and he predicted the end of the world which didn't happen either. The last time the JW predicted the end of the world was 1975 and still we're here.
Hello everyone, I am a SDA, and it has always amazed me the most crictics of her are the ones that have never read her writings or just some of it. The SDA that are turning away are the ones that are listening to messages like this and don't read her writings for themselves. All through the Bible, the Lord has always had prophets and messengers, which is what she said she was to lead and guide His people! Check out Moses and what happened in that story. You just have to make sure you are listening to the right voices!!! Be blessed everyone and study to shew thyself approve - 2Timothy 12:15🙏❤️💯
10 - 28 - 23 #1 There you go being BORED and LOCKED in your technology posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK #2 Here you are TODAY on the SATURDAY Sabbath you claim to keep Holy while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING / PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( NOT ONCE ) NOR has ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads / Comments ( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE ) Why not ? Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ? Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ? #3 Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ? What are you waiting for ? #4 You are NOT RESTING You are NOT PRAYING You are NOT seeking the Lord's face ( Not that you know what that means ) TODAY on the Saturday you claim to keep Holy ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ( The CROSS ✝️ ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE my friend !
I've actually studied Ellen G. White's writings. And the White Estates have full power to hide her earlier writings. Many who left the SDA church who knew of the earlier writings are now excommunicated from the SDA church and regarded as liars. I've found older works of Ellen G. White. And they do not match the present day editions of today. And we are supposed to disregard the earlier writings because we're told it's just minor spelling errors or fake teachings inserted by other believers who wanted to sabotage her original teachings. As a person who has studied in depth into the teachings of Islam. SDA and Ellen G. white is no different. After studying the SDA church and its history. I do not see a difference from the spirit of Islam. She may have wanted to be genuine in her beliefs same as Muhammad. But they both believed in the angels that spoke to them. Don't disregard my words as ignorant. When I say I've gone in depth. I've gone in depth to the teachings of those religions. And the SDA church is no different. And knowing the White Estates refuses to release all her writings to the public and for all members to fully examine. Her earlier writings and letters were only leaked by former SDA members or older editions floating around in which I've found at antique stores and book stores that sell donated books. It's been made clear. The SDA church does not have the full knowledge of Ellen G. White. And some SDA churches are trying to remove themselves from Ellen G. White secretly because they know how much falsehood she stands for. And to claim the name as the Spirit of Prophecy and the lesser light. She too is taking claims of the Holy Spirit.
I’m a seventh day Adventist.so many of her critics do not know the full truth about Ellen White, She was a cofounder of the church, and never claimed to be a prophet but God’s messenger. Her writings are not doctrinal but messages of warning, rebuke or comfort and uplifting. She was warned that she would be disbelieved and her writings and messages would be rejected by the majority but she was to deliver them whether “ they hear or forbear.” The same Spirit that inspired her is the same Spirit that inspired the writers of the Old and New Testament. She warned that she was just a worm but to criticize the writings of the Holy Spirit is treading on dangerous ground. You have spread falsehood about Ellen White and SDAs. It is evident to me that you do not know truth and should take the Bible as it reads, not as a surface reader but a study of God’s word, comparing Scripture with Scripture. To accuse us of being a cult.is blatant falsehood, I study for myself and the fundamental doctrines are very clear to me. The premise to us is that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth. He will never contradict Himself and sincere seekers of. Truth will always find it.
@@loishenderson2348 you may not have heard about prophet Muhammad of Islam. Because he too claims not to be a prophet but only a messenger and a warner. Muhammad came only to confirm Allah is the one true god. Yet from out of Muhammad the Quran, the Hadiths, the 5 pillars of Islam, and Sharia. Also Muhammad was uneducated yet had great great wisdom and knowledge only Allah could have given him. Muhammad also claims not to have created Islam and not to be the first Muslim because Isa (Jesus), his followers, all prophets of the Bible all were Muslims. And the greatest of the 10 commandment was the 1st commandment(You shall have no other gods before me. That mean Allah is one, he has no equal, and you must not make anyone or anything equal to Allah. Why am I talking so much about Islam? Because Muhammad and Ellen G. White runs parallel in their prophet hood with their god/ Allah. Their beginning started the same. They both met an angel or possibly god/Allah when they were alone while in deep prayer searching their faith. I've studied Islam for years, and when my cousin became SDA. I didn't think much of it and thought the SDA church taught sound doctrines of the Bible just as Jesus' disciples(the original apostles), Paul(the apostle), and Jesus' other followers. But when I went a little deeper into the SDA church doctrines and history. I found 1844, a demand to obey the Sabbath, boosting of one's self not being a sinner, convenient visions from god/Allah when questioned, teaching a different Jesus yet claiming it's the same Jesus, misunderstanding of the word of God, claims of the spirit of prophecy/the Holy Spirit, and many more. As a person who once hated God with my very heart, mind, and soul. God broke through to me in the simplest of ways. Just placing a random Bible in front of me at my lowest point in life while contemplating suicide as the end all be all answer. There was no meeting of any angel, no visions, no dreams. Just simply reading the Bible for the convenience of reading it for the old stories I heard. Then as I was reading the Bible, I plot it to world history. And it opened my heart, mind and soul to God. And not even after one year of studying the Bible, I accepted Jesus as my God. And low and behold, along came Islam. My greatest challenge. A religion that rivals that of Christianity and Judaism. And after studying it in depth for at half of my life. SDA church doctrines and histories proves to be one in the same as Islam. They are of the same spirit. That's why I said they run parallel. I don't simply take someone's words for it and look at how happy it makes the followers or believers. I compare them to the Bible and history. If you will not do in depth research yourself. You will never see the uncanny comparison of Islam and SDA. And I know my salvation is in Christ alone because He is my rest, my Sabbath.
Very interesting Video. I was once involved with the JW cult when I was in my early 20's. I am now a Christian, which I'm thankful and proud to be. However, you forgot to mention another cult, which is an offshoot of the LDS/Mormon Church called "Community of Christ" (formerly known as "Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints") that slightly differs from the initial LDS/Mormon Church. They reject the "Mormon" moniker, although they do utilize "Book of Mormon" and "Doctrine and Covenants" like the initial, but they also happen to be "Trinitarian", although they teach a different concept regarding the "most Holy Trinity". I suggest that maybe one day, you can make a video about the "Community of Christ", if you haven't done so already. Thanks for this. I subscribed and also, signed up for notifications. Keep them coming.
I am an Orthodox Christian, Greek by origin. I am not a priest and I don't have any official position in the church. I find many of the videos you publish enlighting and thank you for that. I would disagree though about your comment that there is no mention of the Holy Trinity in the Bible. In my humble opinion, there is a very CLEAR and loud mention of the holy triad in the last Chapter of Mathew's Gospel. ver 19. I am able to read it from the original ancient Greek version where it is written that Jesus instructs his disciples to go and teach the nations and baptize them in the name of the Father of the Son and the Holy Ghost! There you go! 🙂
True, it does say that exactly as you quoted. However, it means that there are three individual entities, not three in one. That's how I understand it. There is God the the father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit.
@@elaineconnors6248 The trinity states that: There is one God. There are three persons in the Godhead. Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Each person is God. "Baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
Yep, the Bible verse that you quoted is about baptising the believers in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. But it never says that there are three persons in one God. The Lord Christ and His TRUE Apostles who wrote the books in New Testament believed and preached only one TRUE God, the Father who is a Spirit. The 66 books of the whole Bible which were written by 39 diff people who lived in diff times and in diff places for a period of 1,500 years, mention only ONE TRUE God, the Father. The term "person" (human) alone is blasphemous and an insult to Him who is everlasting with no beginning or end. An omnipotent and omniscient God who created all things. It was only in year 325 A.D/C.E at the Catholic Bishops Council of Nicea when it became their dogma that their Christ was god. Then in year 381 A.D/C.E, at their Council of Constantinople, they made the Holy Spirit as god.
@@gilfcato4995 There is only one true God. That is what the Bible teaches and what the concept of the trinity teaches. It sounds like you are apostate from the teachings of the founder's of the Watchtower Society. They all said that you should worship Jesus. Even the literature that I got said on the front, 'To promote the worship of God.' 'To promote the worship of Jesus.' Russell taught that we should worship Jesus and the initial Watchtower Charter's specified that establishment of the Watchtower Society was to promote the worship of Jehovah and Jesus. Yet since the 1950's, worshipping Jesus became regarded as wrongful idolatry. Russell promoted the worship of Jesus and prayer to him because he is our God. "It seems clear that His Divinity was retained in humanity because He repeatedly spoke of Himself as having come down from heaven, and because He, though passing through trial and sorrow as a man, was yet possessed of the authority and exercised the prerogatives of a God. He was the object of unreproved worship even when a babe, by the wise men who came to see the new-born King. Matt. 2:2-11. Even the angels delighted to do Him honor. "When He bringeth the first-begotten into the world, He saith, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." Heb. 1:6. Jesus never reproved any one for acts of worship offered to Himself, but when Cornelius offered such service to Peter--the leading apostle-- "he took him up, saying, stand up; I myself also am a man." .... Had Christ not been more than a man the same reason would have prevented from receiving worship...." Zion's Watch Tower 1880 Oct pp.2-3 "It is undoubtedly proper enough for us to address petitions to our Redeemer and Advocate, who loved us and gave himself for us....Although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, it evidently could not be improper so to do; for such a course is nowhere prohibited, and the disciples worshiped him." Zion's Watch Tower 1892 May 15 p.157 "Question. The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty? Answer. Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father and his agent in the creation of all things, including man." Zion's Watch Tower 1898 Jul 15 p.216 "In one respect many of Christendom could learn numerous important lessons from these wise Gentiles....They worshiped him in three senses of the word: (1) They fell before him, prostrated themselves, thus physically expressing their reverence. (2) They worshiped him in their hearts and with the tongue gave expression to their rejoicing and confidence. (3) They opened their treasure-box and presented to him three gifts appropriate to royalty: the myrrh representing submission, frankincense representing praise, gold representing obedience." Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jan 1 p.15 ****** Rutherford continued this teaching. "Jehovah God commands all to worship Christ Jesus because Christ Jesus is the express image of his Father, Jehovah, and because he is the Executive Officer of Jehovah always carrying out Jehovah's purpose (Heb.:3-6)." Watchtower 1939 Nov 15 p.339 "During the Millennium, "the princes will lead the people in their worship of Jehovah and of Christ." Vindication Volume 3 (J. F. Rutherford, 1932) p.295 "The people of all nations who obtain salvation must come to the house of the Lord to worship there; that is to say, they must believe on and worship Jehovah God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his chief instrument (Philippians 2:10, 11)." Salvation (J. F. Rutherford, 1939) p.151 ****** Knorr continued to teach we should worship Jesus and the 1940's Watchtower articles still stated that Jesus was to be worshipped. "Now, at Christ's coming to reign as king in Jehovah's capital organization Zion, to bring in a righteous new world, Jehovah makes him infinitely higher than the godly angels or messengers and accordingly commands them to worship him. Since Jehovah God now reigns as King by means of his capital organization Zion, then whosoever would worship Him must also worship and bow down to Jehovah's Chief One in that capital organization, namely, Christ Jesus, his Co-regent on the throne of The Theocracy." Watchtower 1945 Oct 15 p.313 In 1945, Knorr amended the Watchtower's legal Charter. Included within the Charter was the statement that the purpose of the Watchtower Society is to promote the worship of Jehovah and Jesus. What made you become apostate from the teachings of Russell, Rutherford and Knorr?
I am a Seventh-day Adventist. My church came out of the Millerite movement of 1844. After the great disappointment of 1844, some who still believed in the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8:14 came together for encouragement and worship. These people had been disfellowshipped from their previous churches for being Millerites and they came out of all the major and minor churches of their day. They didn't agree on matters of doctrine so one of their first acts was to go through the various doctrines one at a time in order to come to agreement. These meetings were called "The Great Sabbath Conferences". We determined to accept nothing but a clear "thus saith the Lord" from Scripture for any of our doctrines. This took a very long time, from 1844 to 1864 when we ?became the denomination called Seventh-day Adventists. Sister White did not play a major role in "The Sabbath Conferences". Most of the doctrines were hammered out without her help. The only times she took a part was when the conference were at a point where the differences seemed insurmountable, she would then be given a Biblical text which she would relay to the conference that would get them to talking again. At one point, the conference agreed that the Jewish Sabbath was the Biblical Sabbath and that it had never been changed by Christ or the Apostles, Sister White and her husband decided that they could not go along with this and were on their way out when it was revealed to her that they were wrong and they went back to the conference. Sister White never claimed to be a prophet, she called herself God's messenger. Her visions were not readily accepted as being from God and she was never ordained as a Minister.
The conference of men agreed that the Sabbath was never changed from the Jewish Sabbath by Jesus or the New Testament? And White went along with men's opinion? Yet Jesus broke the Sabbath and said He was the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath was never confirmed in any new testament writings and letters. Never. Jesus or Paul going to a synagogue on Saturday was because that's when the Jews met. If they showed up on the first day, Sunday, no one or a few priests might be there, that's it. So them going on Saturday was not proof that Jesus approved of Saturday sabbath, but rather, an opportunity to preach the gospel to the Jews. Yet the ones who walked with Jesus took collections on the first day of the week, Sunday. Don't you think they would have collected the money on the Sabbath, Saturday, if Jesus had stressed the Saturday Sabbath day? I don't even think that the Sunday Sabbath day has to be observed in that way as far as rest goes. The Sabbath day became more to many Christians than the gospel of Christ. God is not pleased with that. Because Sabbath is rest, spiritually, which affects how we live in this world. That is not only for one day, as the SDAs and so many others insist have to be observed, but it is for all 7 days, all day. It is a spiritual rest. You can gather together for worship any day or days, but Sabbath rest with God is 24/7. That is how God made it. All things are in Christ.
I dont know if you understand the bible af all because Jesus was jewish. He observed all the jewish traditional things. His mom was from a coheen family. He ate according to kasrut. Kosjer food.
@@wendycarty6958 Actually it was Emperer Constantine, not Nero, who changed the Sabbath to Sunday, a pagan holiday for sun worshipers, to make it more acceptable to his empire. Roman Catholicism freely acknowledges this change and confirmed it as the right of their church to do so. Changed by man and justified by man - but not by God. When God commanded us to remember and keep holy the 7th day (4th commandment) as a memorial of Creation and a sign of our loyalty, He meant just that. It's at the heart of His Law and according to Scripture, His law is unchangeable.
@@paulnickson8734 3 - 9 - 24 If you believe there is no GOD Then why say A ) Jesus was a Jew B ) He was illiterate C ) He lived 2 , 000 years ago D ) He wasn't able to write You sure you aren't a closet Christian You sure LOVE to talk about Jesus/ GOD a WHOLE lot Why waste your time on your HOBBY posting all the time ?
Thanks for the breakdown, What are your views on Jewish people who believe that they are the chosen people !!!... BTW I'm aware some where in the old testament God made a promise to the Jewish . However did the Jewish folks miss out on John 14? scripture?
Considering the state of a lot of churches I can understand, there are some good qualities to your church but the Ellen G White / Investigative Judgement thing.......wouldn't be able to get over that. Thank you for your comment.
@Jacqueline Dunn pride is not a Christian trait. I'm humble to be drawn by the FATHER unto the SON who is my grace and mercy. HE loses none the FATHER draws to him. This simple truth puts any kind of Investigative Judgment to rest. You have a false gospel different then the one taught, Gal. 1:8.
@@davidstylespro no truth in SDA. The preach the 4th and ignore the 6th to do satan's work. Since 1970 the SDA owned & GC run hospitals have been in the abortion business for the last 53 years. Butchering innocent children of YHWH in their Mother's wombs for profit aka $money$. On demand any trimester with a focus on poor minorities. www.UA-cam.com/watch?v=0cyfcaKSrQc
Salvation is only through to be found in Jesus Christ, His Blood, and grace through faith in God through Him and not through observing a day or good works.
ATTENTION! Before making a comment please remember these groups attacked us Christians first, they either claimed we were an abomination and or they were the one true church so the cults attacked Christianity first, as the result of this along with their false gospel Protestants & Evangelicals labeled these groups as cults, I did not come up with this label, this belief existed well over 100 years before I was even born. These are the 4 major cults that claimed to be the authentic version of Christianity. The Mormons said all other churches were an abomination, the SDA false prophet Ellen White claimed only Adventists who were in the movement by 1844 could be saved. The JW's claim only they can go to heaven nobody else and the CS founder once said if Jesus did not exist it would make no difference to her. The point of this video is not to criticize other faiths its is to point out that these groups do not represent true Biblical Christianity, instead they were all hostile to it. Today now that they have gained some acceptance they are trying to reform their image but make no mistake about it their teachings are not in line with the true Biblical gospel.
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Excellent point !
Everyone loves to jump on a bandwagon but to follow Jesus you must take up your cross alone.
@@mariaquinn920
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Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
@@mariaquinn920
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NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY
Mormon
Seventh day Adventist
Jehovah's Witness on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
@@mariaquinn920
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BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Thank you for this breakdown. I am a 4th generation JW born in. I have only dared to look outside of Watchtower publications for the last 2 years. Now that I am fully aware that I was raised in a cult and raised my children in a cult as well, I am putting as much time and effort I can into learning Bible truths with fresh eyes and reading Christian teachers from long ago to the present times. Like the Mormons, JW’s teach that there was a great apostasy that occurred after the last Apostle died and that Christendom is all false Christianity and that JW’s alone are the restored true Christian Church. They do such a thorough job of “demonizing” mainstream Christian churches and beliefs(ie. the Trinity), that when JW’s wish to leave Watchtower Organization, they often turn atheist because it is so ingrained in them to think all the Christian Churches are evil and false. I pray for them over this. I am nearing 60 years old now and am so grateful to God for waking up to true Christianity while I still have as much of my mental faculties as I do😊 It is a joy for me to hear Christians like you now and now we are brother and sister in Christ😊 God Bless You in your ministry❤
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#1
Thank you brother for your testimony
#2
We don't find the word
Trinity in the Bible
HOWEVER the word GODHEAD is 100 % Biblical and in the Bible an is EXPLAINED in the EXACT SAME WAY as the Holy Trinity
( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future using the GREEK
1st Corinthians 12 : 4 - 6
The Holy Spirit is the SAME GOD
( CHARISMATA )
Jesus is the SAME GOD
( DIAKONIA )
The Father is the SAME GOD
( ENERGEMATA )
( Three distinct persons ALL the SAME ONE TRUE GOD ) from eternity past to eternity future
#3
I hope this will you
#4
Adventism is the WORST out of these THREE NEW 19th century FALSE religions
@porfiriojohn5276 I completely agree with you about the trinity. Great job explaining. Just curious why you think Adventists are the worst among the group? I would've thought the others (JW, Mormons, etc) because some of them actually do believe in Jesus Christ being God's son.
@@jessicah.1828 I was thinking the same thing. It could be because the SDAs are closer to the truth but not in the truth, taking more Christians away from the faith.
@michaelalbertson7457 you are wise! It could be very dangerous that way.
@@jessicah.1828
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#5
The Jehovah's Witnesses will kinda MORPH to try to sound like a good religion
#6
Mormonism does a little more MORPHING to say that they are Christian and change with the times and change terms
#7
Adventism is WORST , they will
MORPH , LIE , and say ANYTHING to say they are Christians , and Evangelicals and even to the point of saying they are the TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which are the ONLY Completers of the Protestant Reformation movement
#8
LDS : Does lip service on GRACE
JWS : Does lip service on GRACE
SDA : Does lip service on GRACE
A ) Ellen G Whites says otherwise on GRACE
B ) "" It is the GRACE of God to ALL Seventh day Adventists through OBEDIENCE to the LAW ! ""
( Ellen G White
My life today page # 100 )
#9
LDS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
SAME AS...........
SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
SAME AS..........
JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
#10
LDS : Has their seat in UTAH
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
#11
LDS : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1830 )
SAME AS..........
SDA : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 )
SAME AS...........
JWS : NEW 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 )
#12
LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus Christ
SAME AS..........
SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus Christ set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
Psalms 19: 7-8 we need not listen to unwise educated fools, but to read our bible and listen to the spirit of God.
Going to church on Sundays was from the Bible? No!
Genesis 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the Lord thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11 For in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
Hebrews 4:4,9-11 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Exodus 31:14-15 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the Lord : whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Sabbath keeping is for both Jews and Gentles. Stranger = a Gentile.
Isaiah 56:2,6 Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
The papacy or popes changed the Lord's Sabbath day commonly called Saturday to Sunday in 7 March 321 A. D.
The Lord foretold that the papacy will change times and laws.
Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
Churches that are worshipping on Sundays are breaking the 4th Commandment of the Lord. And they are obeying popes, the Roman Catholic church.
I wonder people who address this man as a pastor, an ignorant pastor whose analysis has no biblical support! Anyway, if fools went not to the Market, bad ware would not be sold. This so called analyst of cult religion cant even define the word cult itself
Are you Jewish the law is for Jewish people and not New Testament Saints. The problem is you can't tell the difference. Ephesians chapter 2 Paul tells us the difference
Can you define the term "law"?!
Most people who claim to listen to sprit are the most lost ones because what they usually tell us from the sprit contradicts with God's word.
I have been to a seventh Day Adventist church before. The time I spent there they preached and taught by the Bible scriptures and studied them very earnestly. Their food intake was very strict due to health reasons and most were very healthy people and some of the nicest people I've ever met in this life. They follow the Saturday day of Sabbath due to the ten commandments. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. The original Sabbath day was on Saturday. They are strict on keeping that day holy.
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#1
Well Ellen G White and Adventist
Sheila Jackson Lee Congresswoman from Houston Tx are and were NOT STRICT about keeping your so called Adventist healthy lifestyle nutrition dietary law as they are and were FAT OBESE and OVERWEIGHT......
#2
Seventh day Adventists INCLUDING YOURSELF were NOT STRICT YESTERDAY on SATURDAY by WORKING your technology ALL day YESTERDAY on SATURDAY all over these Threads/ Comments and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#3
You didn't ONCE say that
Seventh day Adventists are STRICT on SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#4
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#5
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy being STRICT bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy being STRICT CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ?
Too busy being STRICT WORKING their technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#6
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT STRICT NEW 19th century religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my SDA friend !
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#1
Just merely going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people "" Happy Sabbath ! "" doesn't mean by default one keeps the WHOLE LAW of the Commandments of God......
We are ALL SINNERS knowingly or unknowingly EVERYDAY
#2
Only the blood of Christ CLEANESES us from sin and not some SDA get together at some SDA church
#3
NICE doesn't get us into Heaven there are NICE people in EVERY SINGLE religion denomination faith belief system but we are all still evil
Luke 11 : 13
#4
Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend
#5
Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
#6
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#7
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
Chapter and verse please
#8
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#9
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
#10
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the NICE GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
#11
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments hasn't even bothered ONCE to be NICE and mention ANYTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#12
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to be NICE to
SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ?
What are you Adventists waiting for
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
@@porfiriojohn5276Let those with ears listen 🙌🏽 glory be unto the Living God, we are saved by GRACE THROUGH FAITH in His finished work on the Calvary. His defeat over sin, the realm of death, and Satan is what I put my faith in. Just as He rose, so shall we. God bless you brother
I was born and raised SDA and I will agree that the people can be very friendly, until you become a member and get deeply involved. They would appear to study from the bible very earnestly, but the investigative judgment is not in the bible, placing the children of God on probation. They take the word of Ellen White above the Holy Bible. That is not biblical teaching. Even if they appear to study the bible earnestly, they are not following it earnestly if Ellen Whites writings hold supreme authority above the bible. It is a works-based religion. Keeping the Sabbath almost becomes their salvation, instead of Jesus who died on the cross and atoned for our sins with his blood. It was a gift. We do not work for a gift, because it is given freely. They do not believe that his blood atoned for our sins on the cross. That is why they invented the investigative judgment. The history of Ellen White is full of questionable things. Some of these religions that are named came out of the Millerite movement called the great disappointment. Which was a false prophesy and prediction, and also why the SDA came up with the investigative judgment instead of admitting it was a false prophesy. That was the foundation upon which that religion was built. It is a faulty foundation in my opinion. As the comment from DanielPerez-ed4rn states, Jesus said on the cross, it is finished. He defeated sin, death, Satan. He rose from the dead and sits at the right hand of God in heaven.
Studies show they live on Ave 10yrs longer than the Ave American.
My parents were JW’s from the time I was 9 till I was 15 1/2. It tore our closeness as children from my folks. When they left the JW’s I was almost 16. We rebounded but it took years. My big brother and I HATED going to their Kingdom Hall. I was saved when I was 31. My mom accepted Christ in 1999, my Father I need to sit down and ask him what he believes. My olderbrother wants NOTHING to do with Jesus. I try every few months and have for years. My little-brother died when I was 9, he was 2. He’ll be in heaven and I can’t wait to see him again. My daughter and her husband are saved. Praise God!!
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Thank you for sharing your testimony
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
I was raised deeply entrenched in Christian Science. I even sang solo for their services, as did my mother. My grandmother was a CS practitioner. I would love to see you delve deeper into the religion than just reading info on the web. There is, indeed, nothing Christian or Scientific about it. I removed myself in 1994 and got born again in 1996. To know the true God, and His son, Jesus, has been the JOY of my life. I will say that at least Christian Science taught me there WAS a God, for which I am grateful.
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Would you agree that Jesus is GOD
I too was raised in Christian Science. My parents went to Principia HS and college. I went to Principia for a year in HS. I used to go to Cedar's CS camp and later to Adventures Unlimited CS summer camp. My dad was a first reader in the church in my teenage years. My mom died from cancer because a CS practitioner tried to tell her she couldn't serve two masters(the medical world and God) and so my mother stopped treatment and very soon afterwards died. My dad and his new wife are still both practicing Christian Scientists. I got out in early 2013 and was saved in Sept 2013 by God. I try plant seeds for my dad as often as I can. My dad's new wife had a melt down when I tried to have an actual conversation about Christ and that the Bible is what is real, not what MBE tried to teach because she twisted and contradicted the Bible over and over again in the science and health. I was able to help lead my sister away from CS too. I have also created the generational change in my family by marrying a Christian woman and brining all 3 of my children to Christ. I will say there are some very nice people in CS, but they have just been snowballed with false beliefs and promises.
@@reidbartlett3862: I'm very sorry for your loss of your mother. Are christian scientists aware that Luke (who wrote the book of Luke), was a DOCTOR? Yes, Luke was a PHYSICIAN, so it IS o.k. for people to seek treatment through doctors for their illnesses, ailments, injuries and health. That's why God GIVES us doctors and medicine. I just wish your Mom would've continued on with her treatment and hopefully gotten better. 😕
@@glenturney4750 no they (Christian scientists) don't. In Christian science, they cherry pick out verses to make or validate the weekly lesson subject. They do not actually read books or even large parts of books of the bible. They will selectively choose verses all across the bible, so one never gets context. They instead rely on Mary Baker Eddy's interpretation so they know or understand how to think about what was just read in the Bible. In the CS church, the first reader reads the science and health (and is the primary speaker during church service) and the second reader reads the Bible, so all emphasis is put on what MBE says over the Bible. That was one of the reasons I started paying really close attention to what was being said and started to pick up on all the inconsistencies and argumentative and contradictive statements made by MBE in contrast to the Bible.
Thank you for your nice words about my mother. It's been 10 years now, but I am still a little bitter about the falsehoods my mother was fed.
Well said
As a born again believer in Christ, I worry about our mainline denominations that do not really believe the scriptures and only preach “feel good “ sermons; no sin, no repentance, no living for the Savior preached!
Sadly, we r in the time of apostasy...just look at the UMC. We broke up bc of them embracing homosexuality n that they believe that Jesus is ONE way to get into heaven n that's not true.
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Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets
Ellen G White
William Miller
Joseph Smith
Charles Taze Russell
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Very true more so prosperity message 😢
We are living in the Laodicean Age, no Spirit in many 'believers', they are not born again
Catholic Church is waiting for you ❤
SDA still fully believe people are saved by grace only!
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That's NOT what your
SELF proclaimed Lesser Light
SELF proclaimed MESSENGER
SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy said about GRACE
REMEMBER her writings supposedly brings COMFORT , GUIDANCE , CORRECTION and INSTRUCTION
"" It is the GRACE of God to ALL Seventh day Adventists through OBEDIENCE to the LAW ! ""
( Ellen G White
My life today page # 100 )
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Two days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
”But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be ACCURSED.“
Galatians 1:8 KJV
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#1
You are correct
Adventism and Mormonism has a different Angel Gospel
FALSE Gospels
@@porfiriojohn5276 quote----Adventism and Mormonism has a different Angel Gospel
FALSE Gospels... unquote
THAT IS A WORTHLESS OPINION with NO FACTS--NO scriptures!! PROVE your opinion!!!!
ALL 28 SDA doctrines are online--READ THEM and THEN tell me if they preach a different gospel!!!!
@@mitchellosmer1293 Zach 14, rev 5:10, Isaiah 2. The millinium is on the earth. Where does the bible say its in heaven?The Lord doesn't need 180 years to investigate who will be his firstfruits. Jesus drank real wine. The Muslims will become the beast. All the annual Sabbaths, feasts and Holydays should be honored like the weekly Sabbath, all Israel shall be saved. Ellen said Israel would never become a nation again,
@@roncompton5890 quote---The millinium is on the earth.--unquote
Nope, impossible!!
1st, if on earth, why will we meet Jesus in the air?
1 Thess 4: [17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
2nd-----2 Peter 3:10 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
READ THAT AGAIN!! ALL ILL BE BURNED UP!!!!
3rd---When New Jewusalem comes down from HEAVEN------Malachi 4:3 KJV: And ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the LORD of ...
NOTHING BUT ASHES.
----Quote----Where does the bible say its in heaven?---unquote
Where does it say on earth during those 1000 years???
---quote---The Lord doesn't need 180 years to investigate who will be his firstfruits.. unquote
So. how long will it take God to decide the fate of every person the has lived since Adam???
----quote---Jesus drank real wine.... unquote
Quote the bible!!!!
--quote---The Muslims will become the beast...unquote
I suggest you do LOTS more reading of Revelations and Daniel!!!!
The "beast" that comes up out of the waters- is-----ROME---Water represents many people, tribes and tongues.
The "beast' that comes up out of the land- (very few people in 1776)---the USA!!!
Act like a lamb (freedom of religion, freedom of assembly, freedom of speech), but will worship the beast. The USA will be the first country to mandate Sunday worship.
----quote---All the annual Sabbaths, feasts and Holydays should be honored ...unquote
Why?? They were given to the Jews!!!! Not to the gentiles!!!
2nd--they were fulfilled by Jesus!! All pointing to His sacrifice!!!!
Feast of Tabernacles
Feasts of First Fruits
Feast of Trumpets
Feast of Unleavened Bread
Passover
Day of Atonement
ALL fulfilled!!!!
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@@mitchellosmer1293
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LDS : Do NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
SAME AS.......
SDA : NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these videos you post on dealing with Adventism ALL day on Saturday's hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
I'm a proud member of the 7th day Adventist "cult". I believe in the spirit of prophecy and the testimony of Jesus. I believe we are living in the last days, the final moments of earth history based on the Bibles teaching. Jesus is coming soon and none of this matters, if it doesn't edify to my salvation.
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#1
You should be PROUD to be a Christian FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST so you can be a Christian FIRST and BORN AGAIN Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY
#2
The ONLY thing we should BOAST about is the CROSS
Galatians 6 : 14
#3
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S , praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#4
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no
#5
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes.......or........no
Chapter and verse please
#6
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ?
Chapter and verse please
#7
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes......or.......no
#8
Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes.......or........no
#9
Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL
NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
Ellen White is not the spirit of prophecy the Adventist church does not say she is, but her works and writings show a manifestation of the Spirit of prophecy. All who believe and obey God's commandments would have the spirit of prophecy as the Holy Spirit is given to them who obey Acts 5:32. All the prophets had the spirit for prophecy, God end time people will also have the spirit of prophecy Rev 12:17 calls it the testimony of Jesus Christ. Don't you have a testimony of what you learned from his word? Well, that testimony is called the spirit of prophecy Revelation 19:10. When you proclaim what Jesus had done, what he is doing, and what he is going to do (According to scripture) this is the Spirit of prophecy. @@junkmedicine Easy!
@@junkmedicine re-read the scriptures.
@@nompumelelomashele5654
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#10
Feel free to ANSWER those VERY SIMPLE questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks
1 Peter 3 : 15
Biblical Gospel
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@junkmedicine In my local SDA church most of people use EGW as last resort or to fill the gaps. General Conference does base lot of sabath school materials on here writings, but in regular debates she is rarely quoted. For me personaly, I think she has great writings about general christian history, shallow writings about health and interesting looks on stories from Bible. I am not fully convinced that God revealed here details about stories from the bible and prophecies about end of time. It feels safer to stick to the Bible. But her christian history writings is so good that other curches theologists read it too.
Read several books of EG white, most especially the book "The Great Controversy". My motive was to search and find God. I can say with a clear conscience that the things I've read and learned for myself are NON-cultic. I pray that God's Spirit shall teach, convict and lead us all to the Source of Truth! Many blessings!
May you share only scripture that proves that Sunday worship is the MOB? Secondly EGW said the Lord does nothing in combination with Satan, but in the great controversy Satan is the final sin bearer for believers. Doesn't that mean both Satan and Christ then play a part in salvation?
@@henryhondo8421....
What is MOB, sir?
NEVER I read in the Great Controversy that "Satan is the final sin bearer for believers". Would you please mention in here the very passage or paragraph where she mentioned that in the book?
@@giemoskito-cebreros5480 mark of the beast
@@henryhondo8421
If the beast has a mark. God has a clear mark or sign as well!
Man was to work for 6 days. The seventh day of the week was set apart as the Sabbath, a holy day to rest.
Exodus 20:9-10
Six days you shall labor, and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, you, or your son, or your daughter, your male servant, or your female servant, or your livestock, or the sojourner who is within your gates.
Revelation 9:4
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any green plant or any tree, but only those people who do not have the seal of God on their foreheads.
Exodus 13:9
And it shall be to you as a sign on your hand and as a memorial between your eyes, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth. For with a strong hand the Lord has brought you out of Egypt.
Ezekiel 20:20
Keep my Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the LORD your God.”
For further in-depth discussion on the Bible & Church history identifying who is the beast mentioned in revelation and what the Mark of the Beast is...
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@@henryhondo8421
Revelation 13:4
And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?”
Revelation 13:5-8
And the beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.
Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. And authority was given it over every tribe and people and language and nation, and all who dwell on earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written before the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who was slain.
Revelation 13:1-3
And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, with ten horns and seven heads, with ten diadems on its horns and blasphemous names on its heads. And the beast that I saw was like a leopard; its feet were like a bear's, and its mouth was like a lion's mouth. And to it the dragon gave his power and his throne and great authority. One of its heads seemed to have a mortal wound, but its mortal wound was healed, and the whole earth marveled as they followed the beast.
Revelation 14:9-11
If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, he also will drink the wine of God's wrath, poured full strength into the cup of his anger, and he will be tormented with fire and sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest, day or night, these worshipers of the beast and its image, and whoever receives the mark of its name.
Revelation 13:16-17
He [the beast of the sea] also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark.
Revelation 13:18-19
This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
i was a muslim.
The Living God, Jesus Christ Himself came to me in a very clear vision and saved me from the cult of Islam.
Jesus Christ delivered me from demons or evil spirits.
I repented of all of my sins and Jesus Christ forgave me and cleansed me with His Holy Blood!
After I repented Jesus Christ baptized me with the Holy Spirit and Fire.
Jesus Christ healed me.
Jesus Christ changed me and my whole life radically completely.
Jesus Christ sat me free from RELIGION, Christianity is NOT a religion, Christianity is RELATIONSHIP with the Living GOD!!💖✝️💖
Now I'm a born again believer in Christ Jesus.
I was dead in sins and lived in the Kingdom of darkness, now I'm dead to sins and live in the Kingdom of Light!
My life is not my own anymore and belongs to Him.
I do belong to Jesus Christ.
HalleluYah. 💖✝️💖✝️💖
I praise Jesus Christ forever.🥰✝️🥰✝️🥰
All glory, honor and praise be to the divine Holy Trinity my God. My dear Elohim (Yahweh, Yeshua, the Holy Spirit).💖✝️💖
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This brief testimony is only for the glory of the God Who is Living, Loving and Saves!❤✝️
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Without believing properly in Jesus Christ you will go to hell, no matter who you are, no matter where you are, no matter what religion you have, no matter I say again WITHOUT believing properly in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior you will end up in hell as soon as you leave this earth, life is not guaranteed to anyone!
There is no question, no answer, no doubt, no matter who you are without believing properly in Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will directly land to hell and you will be there for eternity!
Do you understand for eternity in hell and being tormented by demons nonstop forever!!
Wake up people!
Jesus Christ showed me a second of hell just a glance of it and I couldn't bare it, I scared so horribly that I opened my eyes! He showed me outer darkness!
There are testimonies of hell! Jesus Christ showing hell to a lot of his children to share them with the world!
Hell a real place! Without Christ in your life you end up in hell no matter what religion you have!
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(To the dear peaceful tolerant muslims I don't care what you think and what you say at all, don't bother to comment I don't reply, don't need more harrassment!)
Thank you for your sharing.
Alleluia! Brother.
After leaving the Mormon church, which I grew up in and was a member of for 37 years, I tried to find a new Christian home, so I spent a lot of time researching other Christian churches. And after all that, I can honestly say that there is not a single Christian church or dogma in this world that I trust to teach me the pure truth of Christ. ALL of them have the exact same issues as the church I was raised in. Which is all basically summed up by: "Let God guide you to the truth-unless that truth conflicts with what I say, then listen to me instead." THAT mindset is the whole definition of a cult and its in EVERY, single Christian church I look into. I've had enough of it. There is more of it in this video. I don't need it. No Christian person in this world needs it. I want a pure relationship with my Savior with no middle man or woman in between. If I am a child of God then He can speak to me just as well as He can to any prophet. So I will speak to Him directly and let Him guide me. Only He has the pure truth at this point.
the kingdom of heaven is within.. is true what you say.. go within, GOD is not something externak or separate. He is love, be loving twords self and others and you will discover the God within
Jesus never once ever preached in a church. Wherever 2 may be speaking my name, there I shall be.
@momotsukii. I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs ups!
I don't go to any church but I do talk to God a lot, I pretty much do nothing on Saturday, Sunday I do laundry and clean house and start the week
Church is a people where people of the same mind about God meet and fellowship together. But that's one event. We still need to go and search the scriptures yourself. The pastors should be telling the members that constantly. We're all just vessels. As you've read the Bible in your personal time, and find a church home, that's the idea.
If you're going through something, who do you go to when you need a boost of encouragement, boosted prayer, maybe other fellowships? Paul had his go to people and other churches he visited helped him financially and through encouragement (mentioned in Phil 4). He also mentioned that we should not forsake the gathering of brethren
That's what the church body is for as well. People are people, but when God is involved, the vessels are a great help
I joined the Seventh-Day Adventist Church in 1996 at the age of 17 while searching for God and after studying with many denominations including most of the Protestant churches. I can say having been in this denomination for over 20 years I have been hearing this and no one has been able to take their bibles and prove it, it’s far from a cult. If you would like to have a cordial biblical discussion on this I would be more than happy to do so.
@ tree of life ministries
I used to be a SDA because of being raised in it. I left when I realized that their doctrines were not sound and their prophetic views were messed up too, and egw had a lot to do with that. Although it's not a full on cult, it does have some methods of luring and entrapping potential followers into their beliefs and holding them.
A lot more could be said. One thing I learned and understand about that church like others is they have and hold on to a Very Very small view of God's overall plan. And they have a belief similar to the rapture, a fly away belief. They take some scriptures as literal instead of spiritual. More could be said.
Thank you for you cordial response. Not all SDA represent the core beliefs and tenants of the church as it should. I’m a traveling evangelist and I have been all around the world preaching and do realize that there are some rigidity within the denomination. If you go from denomination to denomination you will find the same amongst all, that there are various belief and mischaracterizations within.
However, after speaking with so many people for so many years who put out public messages like this, most have not sat down with someone and discussed some of the sentiments that is shared within this video. I find that many shape their beliefs of others without context. Google doesn’t tell the whole truth. I believe sitting down breaking bread together, opening up the scriptures and have discussion on the various views is the apostolic and biblical method.
We are doing that now with a groups and they realize that all they have been hearing about SDAs were mischaracterizations.
We don’t have a special SDA Bible. We use the same Bible. All I am saying is let’s come together, open up the word and discuss. I was skeptical myself before joining twenty seven year ago until I sat down and the Bible was opened. What I found is that everything that we believe is founded in the Word. 27 years later many open discussions it’s the same.
We have nothing to hide let’s opens up the word and see what it says.
To call us a cult publicly like this is flat out wrong and has no biblical basis.
@@treeoflifeministries7425SDA teachings contradict the Bible.
Investigative Judgement is an abomination. Teaching that Christ transferred (defiled) the temple by His blood and that judgement of believers began in the 1800's and still continues or as EGW...."We don't know when he will finish it and start with the living" (paraphrasing). Her prophesies about Turkey being raised to the ground, the congregation at Battle Creek would be alive at His return and so many others have failed. Forbidding to eat meat directly contravenes the scripture and Paul's warning of doctrine of demons in the latter days. He used the example.of forbidding to eat meat!!! There is so much to say but unless you seek the truth in the Word you will not see
@@treeoflifeministries7425
10 - 23 - 23
#1
My friend you did say you have gone around the world PREACHING and yet NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why.not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#2
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for
#3
It is a catalyst on your part to say one shouldn't just Google a video dealing with Adventism and one should just break bread and talk
#4
Most of us won't meet each other and so that's why this is an open forum
#5
What's more you didn't explain what EXACTLY was said in this video that was wromg about Adventism and
Ellen G White and the
Investigative Judgment
#6
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ?
Chapter and verse please
#7
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes.......or........no
#8
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes......or.......no
Chapter and verse please
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE !
@@treeoflifeministries7425
10 - 23 - 23
#9
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S , praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#10
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes.......or.......no
#11
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS..........
JWS : Teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS..........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes........or.........no
#12
LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS..........
JWS : Teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS..........
SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes.......or.........no
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
It's because of Christian Science that my parents died needlessly as they both refused medical attention to preventable diseases. I being their son escaped this horrible Cult by myself
The Jehovah witnesses reject medical treatment with blood transfusion...
So you have more Faith in Doctors than God ?
@@marklmansfield, he or she didn't say that he /she had more faith in Doctors than GOD. There is nothing wrong with going to a Doctor to get a check up & be given medication for a Illness etc. --- a Person can still have Faith in GOD CHRIST as their LORD & SAVIOUR & be under a Doctor for treatment of a Illness etc. ---
@@johnpearce3714 Modern Medicine and peoples unquestioning blind faith and obedience to its power and authority ; Looks to me like the biggest Cult Followers of all . Trust the Science that you yourself have verified , Not some Johnny Come Lately , So Called Expert . If they died with their faith intact , their in a better place than ; Kept alive by some FrankenScience.
Just saying 🤷♂
@@marklmansfield Yes. It was my surgeon that fixed my heart, not God. The God of the Bible is portrayed as jealous and Vengeful. I want nothing to do with this God.
My mother grew up Seventh Day Adventist. She married my father and went to the Methodist Church with him for 56 years until his death. Your early teachings are cemented in. When dad passed away she went back to the Adventist church and remained until her death 3 years later
@@leonidzakhariya6621
1 - 13 - 24
#1
So you came from a Baptist upbringing that was SPREADING and PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( Which at the least you could have learned that )
But no.................
#2
To NOW all of a sudden being a
Seventh day Adventist LOCKED in your technology WORKING your technology ALL day TODAY on the SATURDAY you claim to keep Holy while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#3
You are NOT RESTING
You are NOT PRAYING
You are NOT seeking the Lord's face
( Not that you know what that means ) on the Saturday you claim to keep Holy
#4
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
#5
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller and the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
Like you are doing RIGHT NOW
#6
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my SDA friend !
@@leonidzakhariya6621
1 - 13 - 24
#7
You did ask if one wants to know about Adventism just ask
( YOUR OWN WORDS )
#8
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS.........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes....or...no my friend
#9
LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS........
SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes....or...no my friend
#10
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ?
Chapter and verse please
#11
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
#12
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
Chapter and verse please
#13
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#14
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
Romans 1 : 1
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@leonidzakhariya6621Amen, completely untrue to call Seventh Day Adventist a Cult! I guess this man will experience the truth on Judgement Day!
@leonidzakhariya6621 to follow the Bible in truth..it's important to go all the way..denominations is also against the Bible ..reglion is created by man..Christian the name not given by christ but by ppl..only God's word is the way ,christ teachings. The sabbath is given in the beginning of creation..no reglion..
@@babithasingh9367
2 - 1 - 24
#1
FIRST ( YOU SAID ) names of religions are given by man and AGAINST the Holy Bible
( YOUR OWN WORDS )
#2
THEN all of a sudden it's perfectly fine for religions/ denominations to be named by MANKIND
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
Not only that : their NAMES ALL claim to be the ONLY ONE TRUE NEW 19th century religion denomination churches
ALL religious NAMES
( CULTS )
Make up your mind
"" A double minded man is unstable in all his ways ""
James 1 : 8
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
It's sad that people are trapped within their own minds, with all these twisted believes and not going to the core that it's Jesus Christ, God, our savior. This wonderful video teaches us that sometimes keeping it simple is best. God bless you all.
just curious here. When you say “God bless you all" does it equal to “Jesus bless you all"?
@@Know_it302 Of course. Saying May the Holy Spirit bless you, Jesus or YHWH bless you is equal because they are God, and these 3 persons together still make 1 God. We humans cannot do that just like as 3 identical brothers cannot be 1 brother, God is so powerful that he can do anything and be anything, like dividing himself (or be warped if you like) into 3 different persons and still be 1.
I held your position pastor about the SDA church and EGW, till i read her book called the great controversy. Just read the last ten (10)chapters of that book written in the 1800s, everything she wrote 100% is playing out in the world today. From that day, i refused to take people's opinions.
Besides that, I stumbled upon a testimony of Roger Morneau. That sent me back to the Bible. Am now doing serious studies about the true sabbath of God, and what am discovering, Its certainly NOT Sunday.
Thanks
Amen!
I will encourage you to study Seventh day Adventist book the controversy l bet you you will turn one if you are sincere with your self.
Saturday is the true sabbath of our God
Romans catholic church altered the sat sabbath to sunday. Sun god. But the sabbath was for jews not gentiles the 10 commandments were also the jews not the gentiles. Nt saints are given 2 commandments +1 .
My experience: with the book, Great Controversy: once I started reading it I couldn't put it down. It blows your mind as it brings Christian church history into perspective and explains the coming final events so clearly, all based on what the Bible teaches. It answers so many questions. Very comprehensive and incredible. I promise you won't regret reading it.
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I had the same experience. Second best book ever written.
I have read a pamphlet or 2 written by White, or serious followers, probably White.
It was so wrong, in that, it obviously disputed against true Christianity, with worldly and erroneous logic.
The woman had visions contrary to what the Bible said, 1800 years after Christ! There is no way, no how, they are true. They appeal to man's search for immediate answers to questions about the Bible and God, rather than asking God and waiting for His answers, which many times is instant.
I have learned, what I received in the beginning concerning God's word, I will not give up, unless I am proven to be wrong. It has not happened yet. God truly led me to His truth.
Anyone who who diverts from basic Bible beliefs is not satisfied to live holy, but rather seeks joy from people, in them approving of them.
The Bible says please God, not man.
If one is not spiritual, in that, they reject the truth when it concerns their carnal living and carnal thinking, they will get it backwards. Many SDAs have carnal explanations for God's word, not spiritual. It shocks me, because it's in almost everything I discuss with them. And God's explanations, which are spiritual which manifests in godly thinking and living, they reject almost categorically.
Things born again Christians, all true Christians are born again, John 3:3,5,7, easily understand, SDAs look puzzled and talk about what White has written...proving White and her writings are their Lord.
What I believe comes from the Bible, as taught by the Holy Spirit.
Do you see the difference?
Do not tell me White is a prophet sent to teach the Bible in truth, when it goes against Christian truth. The Mormons say the same thing. Jehovah's Witnesses say the same thing.
There were major cults founded in the 1800s, as if for 1800 years, God was deceiving us.
It is stupifying that anyone could fall for that. But the devil is more clever and devious than any person, and is the father of lies. If one is not surrendered to God, the devil can take them at his will. It happens to ones who call themselves Christians.
I will not fall for the lies of the wicked one.
1800 years later and you believe them? We really are not as smart or wise as we think.
You actually are accusing God of hiding the truth for 1800 years. Which He would never do.
Those 1800s cults that deny the truth of the Bible, they are enemy plants. Satan raised up their founders. He appeared as an angel of light to them.
Pray, for God alone shows truth.
You notice, in those 1800 years, God sent no prophet to give a new gospel.
Prophets are here today, to prophecy, not to found new beliefs.
You have been deceived.
This is straight talk, not itching ears talk. It is from God.
@@alph8654.
I know exactly what you mean..
It's from God that is why it make sense...Egw a true prophetess
@@remnantime3672 Amen !!! Have a Blessed Sabbath bro. !!!!!
@@alph8654 .
Those who are open to hear what is true will know what is true 💯
Thank u for this video. You, elaborating abt these cults help us to face their members and to exp their differences from the truth to the non-christians. Because we as true christians we hve no idea how to exp to them and they can fell in their traps in their search for truth. "Lack if knowledge we perish".
Hello Pastor Grant. Can you share which religious denomination you belong to so that others can examine if yours is a cult as well?
I notice that, like most accusers of his type, he has NOT shared his affiliation, but hides behind the veil of his channel.
@@jeanclaude7018
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You mean like the FACT that you HIDE on this thread that you are a Seventh day Adventist ?
Myself....?
I am a Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED, NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY
Bet you won't say the same
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You two haven't REFUTED what he said about Adventism, Mormonism and the Jehovah's Witnesses
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BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
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You two ( BOTH ) of you are
Seventh day Adventists
CULTS DO NOT PREACH/ SPREAD the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
NOT ONCE have ANY of the
Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Hi sir you forgot to include the biggest cult in the world who say they can forgive your sins just confess it to them
Yes that's what I say and why did he leave them out. I learned about cults from watching Cloud Church org the teacher knows his Scriptures and he has helped me l am 70
I'm not a catholic but I do know it's far more complex than just confessing. You have to confess your faults, to repent sincerely, to accept your penance with humility and patience, to repair any harm done, and to agree not to repeat your wrong doing. Then, and only then, can you be forgiven.
Some people classify them as paganised Christian. We ourselves just need to be Holy Spirit lead.
HELLO! I know EXACTLY what u mean! Seems no one wants to talk about The Great Harlot!
@@anagualberto8384 The Son of Most High said repent and believe, not confess to a man that is filled with just as much sin as u have! They cannot absolve u of sin! Yashua said : Only God can forgive sin! Not the priests, Pope, monsignor etc. Eventhough u say u r not Catholic, evidently u have been indoctrinated with their dogma! What they do violates the Commandments and offends The Most High! Praying to saints, veneration of relics, preservation of so called saints reeks idolatry! The RCC has combined ancient Egyptian religious practices with their own! RCC steeped in pagan Egyptian practices! For example if u step inside a Catholic church and walk up to the altar, they usually have a rectangular structure covered with embroidered cloth with the letters IHS or possibly engraved in the altar, depending on the church. They will tell u that those letters r the name of Yashua (who the world calls Jesus) in Latin . Those letters stand for Isis, female Egyptian goddess, Horeb and Seb, Egyptian male gods. If u do the research it leads back to Egyptian religious practices.
My grandfather was a Christian science. When I was like 6 years old I accidentally broke my arm. My grandfather being the only adult home, would not take me to a hospital, rather he believed he could reset my broken arm. Sure enough, he broke it again in another place. When my mom came home to find my arm broke in two places and why. You can imagine the talk those two must have had.
THE GOSPEL OF THE WORD OF ALMIGHTY GOD
(The Bible is also called the Old and New Testaments. Do you know what "testament" refers to? The "testament" in the Old Testament is from Jehovah's agreement with the people of Israel when He killed the Egyptians and deliver the Israelites from Pharaoh. Jehovah killed the firstborn males of Egypt and all the firstborn livestock, and He saved all the Israelites, which means all the people in the land of Israel were favored by Jehovah, and all will be saved; He wanted to do a lasting work with them, and established the covenant with them with the blood of the lamb. From then on, Jehovah would not kill the Israelites, and said that they were His elect forever. The covenant Jehovah's covenant is unchangeable, because it was fulfilled in blood, and established in His chosen people. The New Testament is named from the shedding of Jesus' blood on the cross and His covenant with all who believe in Him. The covenant of Jesus is this: People need only believe in Him to have their sins forgiven because of the shedding of His blood, and thus they will be saved, and be born again through Him, and no longer be sinners; people only need to believe in Him to receive His grace, and will not suffer in hell after they die. So, these books are also named from an agreement: They are called the New Testament. These two covenants cover only the Age of Law and the Age of Grace, and have nothing to do with the latter age.)
Almighty God said
The BIBLE is also CALLED the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT. Do you KNOW WHAT "testament" MEANS? The "testament" in the OLD TESTAMENT is from JEHOVAH's agreement with the PEOPLE of ISRAEL when He KILLED the EGYPTIANS and SAVED the ISRAELITES from PHARAOH. Of course, the PROOF of this COVENANT is the BLOOD OF THE LAMB WHICH WAS APPLIED ABOVE THE DOORS, THROUGH WHICH GOD ESTABLISHED THE COVENANT WITH MAN, WHEREAS EVERYONE WITH THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB ON THE TOP AND SIDES WAS SAID of the GATE are ISRAELITES, they are the CHOSEN PEOPLE of GOD, and they ALL will be SAVED by JEHOVAH (because Jehovah will then kill all the firstborn males of Egypt and firstborn sheep and cattle).
This AGREEMENT has TWO levels of DEFINITION. Jehovah will spare neither the people nor the livestock of Egypt; He will kill all their firstborn males and firstborn sheep and cattle.
So, in many BOOKS of PROPHECY it was FORETELLED that the Egyptians would be severely chastised as a result of JEHOVAH'S COVENANT. This is the FIRST LEVEL of DEFINITION OF AGREEMENT. ☀️
JEHOVAH KILLED the FIRST BORN MEN of EGYPT and ALL the FIRST BORN PETS, and He SAVED ALL the ISRAELITES, WHICH MEANS ALL the PEOPLE in the LAND of ISRAEL was REJECTED BY JEHOVAH, AND ALL WILL BE SAVED; He WANTED to do a PERMANENT WORK with them, and ESTABLISHED the COVENANT with them USING the BLOOD of the LAMB. 🙏
BEGINNING, JEHOVAH WOULD NOT KILL the ISRAELITES, and SAID they were His CHOSEN ONES FOREVER. ☀️🙏
FROM thevTWELVE TRIBES of ISRAEL, He WILL BEGIN His WORK throughout the AGE of LAW, He WILL LAY OUT His LAW to the ISRAELITES, and WILL SELECT PROPHETS and JUDGES FROM THEM, and THEY WILL be the CENTER of His WORK. 🙏
JEHOVAH has MADE A AGREEMENT with THEM: UNLESS the TIMES CHANGE, He WILL ONLY WORK in the MIDST of the ELECTED. JEHOVAH'S COVENANT DOES NOT CHANGE, because IT WAS FULFILLED in BLOOD, and ESTABLISHED eith His CHOSEN PEOPLE. 🙏💐
Furthermore, He CHOOSES an APPROPRIATE scope and purpose to be the SOURCE of His WORK for ALL AGE, and thus the people of the PEOPLE SEE CONGRESSION all the more IMPORTANT. This is the SECOND level of DEFINITION of AGREEMENT. ☀️
With the exception of Genesis, which predates the establishment of the covenant, all other Old Testament books record God's work among the Israelites after the establishment of the covenant. Of course, there are occasional accounts of Gentiles, but in general, the Old Testament records God's work in Israel. Because of JEHOVAH'S AGREEMENT with the ISRAELITES, the BOOKS written in the AGE of the LAW are CALLED the OLD TESTAMENT.
THESE are NAMED from JEHOVAH'S AGREEMENT with the ISRAELITES. 💐
The NEW COVENANT is NAMED from the SHEDDING of JESUS' BLOOD on the CROSS and His AGREEMENT with ALL WHO BELIEVE in Him. JESUS' AGREEMENT is THIS: PEOPLE ONLY NEED to BELIEVE in Him to HAVE THEIR SINS FORGIVED because of the SHEDDING of His BLOOD, and THEN THEY WILL BE SAVED, and BE BORN THROUGH HIM, and will NOT be SINNERS; PEOPLE just NEED to BELIEVE in Him to RECEIVE His GRACE, and NOT SUFFER in HELL AFTER THEY DIE. ☀️💐🙏
All the BOOKS WRITTEN in the AGE of GRACE CAME AFTER this AGREEMENT, and ALL of them STATE the WORK and SAYINGS CONTAINED in it. They do not exceed the salvation of the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus or the agreement; these are all books written by brothers in the Lord who had experiences.
THEREFORE, THESE BOOKS ARE ALSO NAMED FROM an AGREEMENT: THEY ARE CALLED the NEW TESTAMENT. 🙏
These TWO COVENANTS only cover the AGE of LAW and the AGE of GRACE, and have NOTHING to DO WITH the LAST AGE. Therefore the BIBLE is of NO GREAT USE to PEOPLE TODAY in the LAST DAYS. ☀️
It can only be said that it serves as a temporary reference, but it's really not worth much to use. However, this is still the most careful--careful of religious people. They don't know the Bible; they only know how to explain the Bible, but are unaware of its origins. Their attitude towards the Bible is: Everything in the Bible is correct, it contains no inaccuracies or errors. Since they have already decided that the Bible is correct and without error, they study and analyze it with great interest.☀️
The present stage of work was not prophesied in the Bible.
The WORK of CONQUERING the DARKEST PLACE is NEVER MENTIONED, because it is the NEWEST WORK. Because the AGE of WORK is DIFFERENT, even Jesus Himself did not know that this stage of work would be done in the last days----then how can the people of the last days find this stage of work in the Bible by examining it? 🙏
From "About the Bible (2)"
Fulfillment of "When I looked up, someone handed me a book wrapped in a scroll. I opened it and I read on both sides the prayers, lamentations, and curses." (Ezekiel 2:9-10). ... "His clothes were stained with blood. He was called the "Word of God." (Rev. 19:13)
The kingdom He brought down and built in the worthy holy place in the highest in the sky and when all the humanity He created in the universe was occupied by it and it was engraved in His holy name and owned by His disposition "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 this is the fulfillment of (Matthew 16:18) The Lord Jesus said, "And I say to you, Peter, on top of this eunuch I will build my Church, which will not prevail against him even the fear of death.". ... and fulfillment of "The Letter to the Church in Philadelphia" (Rev. 3:7-13). ... and fulfillment of "The New Jerusalem"💫 "The Spirit covered me, and the angel led me to the top of a very high mountain. He showed me Jerusalem, the Holy City, coming down from heaven from God." (Rev. 21:10). ... "For the time has come in the house of God for the beginning of judgment in the house of God." (1 Peter 4:17)
📩 God's sheep are called and led to His glorious Throne in "THE CHURCH OF ALMIGHTY GOD" 💐 to submit again to His authority so that He can continue to teach us, guide us and protect us even in plagues, disasters, famines and wild animals It will not move us, and to completely win the war with the big red dragon in this final battle!. ... The fulfillment of "They say with a loud voice, "Salvation comes from the Lamb, and from our God who sits on the Throne!" (Rev. 7:10). ... Fulfillment that it will be built in the highest in the sky that in this is our millennial generation UA-cam in (Isaiah 2:2 / 9:6) "In the last day, the mountain on which Jehovah's temple stands will stand out above all the mountains. All the nations will flock there.". ... "For a baby boy is born for us. The rule will be given to him; and he shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Almighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." 💌
@@jonashassel5404Long epistle with no Bible backing
That was not Christian Science what your grandfather did.
My mom is/was Christian Science. (She doesn’t go to church anymore. All of her church friends are deceased. And she finally went to a doctor because she had really high blood pressure. And she got two knees replacements) Going to a doctor to get a bone set and cast is actually ok in the Christian Science doctrine. As is going to the dentist and getting cavities filled. (And any other dental work) Thankfully my mom always took me to the doctor. And back in the 70s and 80s you had to be vaccinated if you were going to school. I absolutely agree that Christian Science is neither Christian nor Science. I will say that unlike the JWs, 7th Day Adventists, and the Mormons; nobody gets into anyone else’s business. No one could call one the Readers (they don’t have pastors, just readers who read from the Bible and “Science and Health With Keys to the Scriptures”) and tattle on a fellow member of the church. Which is very unlike JWs and Mormons especially. Both of those churches have a culture of tattling. Baptist and Evangelical churches also are big tattlers too. I became Episcopalian. There is zero tattling. And we don’t quote scripture at each other. Most of what my church does is help the poor and homeless. There is a permanent Homeless Shelter on the church campus. And the Priest’s House was removed and low cost housing was built.
From a Law point of view, what is the meaning of Testament?
I have been attending a Seventh-Day Adventist church for six years. I have not heard them mention the name of Ellen White more than once, and then it was only casual.
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#1
Doug Bachelor quotes from
Ellen G Whites writings in all his sermons
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#2
The 28 Fundamental Belief system that you tell NON - SDAS to read so that they can FULLY understand what Adventism believes states EMPHATICALLY that the writings of Ellen G White brings
COMFORT
GUIDANCE
CORRECTION
INSTRUCTION
Does it not ?
Same here. Been to hundreds of Bible studies and not a peep there either. The only thing I’ve encountered was hard working, motivated/dedicated folk eager to learn about God. What a terrible cult!
@@TheTrooper424
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#3
Doug Bachelor quotes from
Ellen G White ALL the time
#4
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
#5
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#6
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
Trooper, in Christian seminary circles, it is called "Theocratic Tact"...not releasing the difficult belief-passages until one is hooked on the minors...then the listener is more apt to swallow the woeful anti-bible doctrines of the 7th Day.
They now say literal hell does NOT exist, that it is simple eternal death in the grave. They are also sadly trapped in much of the OT - mandatory Sabbath worship, to do otherwise is of the devil and the mark of the beast. They strongly discourage eating meat and other things in the OT (call it "flesh food"), fermented beverages (wine) are evil, and now subtitle encouraging the shunning of jewelry - including wedding rings as one becomes more holy to God...seriously.
Jesus and the apostles warned about this and more: when to worship, what to eat and drink, hyper doctrines that oppose the Word of God and much more. As a retired pastor/chaplain, I pray you will rethink your previous post.@@TheTrooper424
You forgot one thing JW also says that Jesus didn't get crucified on a cross, that he got crucified on a steak or stake. After 20 years of studying with them I had to leave them alone they were driving me insane to the point of contemplating suicide. God bless you.
Was raised a Christian Scientist. It is an impenetrable box of impressive sounding waffle, devised by the demonic, and locked from the inside by the one who believes it. You have summarized it well. The cult is dying, and churches that were once large and full are limping along with a handful of elderly members. Thank God. Now, if only my mother would surrender her life to Jesus instead of following Mrs. Eddy to hell....I can dream, and pray. She won’t listen to anything. Sigh.
All churches and such organizations are dying
Keep praying.
Your mother is Not going to hell.
Yes, this is the deadliest teaching it seems in our day and age. Having "increased (wordly) knowledge" and the ability to use wise sounding theories and ideas, it is frightening. "Professing themselves to be wise they become fools". I pray your mom manages to get out of their clutches
I went to a church service of theirs not knowing what it really was and had an immediate red flag when they started refering to God as both the Father AND THE MOTHER (or something like that). Something about the devine feminine. I instantly felt uncomfortable about my $2 donation.
For the SDA church you mention there are 3 mistakes: Sabbath, Gift of Prophecy, and the Santuary. But obviously you didn't read the quotes given for each
SABBATH- Gen 21-3 Ex 20:8-11 Lk.4:16 Is.56:5,6 ; 58:13,14 Matt. 12:1-12 Ex.31:13-17 Eze. 20:12,20 Deut. 5:12-15 Heb. 4:1-11 Lev.23:32 Mk. 1:32
SPIRITUAL GIFTS AND MINISTRIES - Rom.12:4-8 Cor. 12:9-11,27,28 Eph. 4:8,11-16 Acts 6:1-7 1Tim.2:1-3 1Peter4:10,11
CHRIST'S MINISTRY IN THE HEAVENLY SANCTUARY- Heb.8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22;1:3; 2:16,17 Dan7:9-27;8:13,14; 9:24-27 Num.14:34 Eze.4:6 Lev.16 Rev.14:6,7; 2012; 14:12; 22:12
Read, before commenting
Pray, before reading
You have a problem with EGW's failed prophecies. Palestine was rebuilt and occupied fulfilling Isa. 66:8 and Micah 5:3 to list a few fulfilled prophecies. You can argue that she is a prophetess all day long but we know she failed the test for a prophet countless times. So stop lying to us. She is a false prophetess.
The atonement was completed Resurrection Sunday Heb. 9:12. He entered once and for all the HOLY PLACE with HIS own blood placing it on the Mercy seat as HIS testimony was completed. Only a sick antichrist witch would say JESUS didn't finish the Attonment Resurrection Sunday.
Did you actually watch the video ?
@@yardgunner4033
Whats the 2nd advent.... was a date for its coming ever made....
Did it come..
Did it fail to pass?
Notice all the scriptures for the Sabbath are Old Testament except for one in the Gospels. The Sabbath was not only Saturday Worship. There were many ordinances to follow.
Ephesians 2 : 8 and 9
We are saved by grace through faith and not works. Observing the Sabbath does not save anyone now. The Sabbath was made for man and not GOD is what JESUS said.
@@Episcopalianacolyte 7th day Sabbath was for a sign between the children of Israel and YHWH not Gentiles.
Remember, isn't to remember the ordinances or the 7th day. It is remembrance of the CHRIST Rest Adam lost to sin. SDA use it as obedience to the law aka their works salvation. In reality it restored Israel to a one day of paradise where YHWH provided their meat without the "sweat of thy face". Locked in paradise instead of out. Kindle no fires so HIS Mazzaroth could be read without 10,000 camp fires blazing for HIS plan of salvation to be read in the heavens.
What SDA call keeping the sabbath looks nothing like Sabbath Torah law. They actually break sabbath law by kindling the fire in their internal combustion engines and living their gates to meet up with the other holier than thou cult members.
This was nice. Thank you. You did well in bringing out a few things of each of these denominations.
I wondered why about Mormon churches, since as a child in Utah I had become a member.
When we moved to Texas, mom went back to church she felt comfortable with. The Church of Christ.
When I was told things about Jehova Witness by folks who had never been there I had to check it out.
Quite a difference from scriptural. I was interested in checking out the Seventh Day Adventists but in looking to see how the felt about Jews and Israel - I didn't study them any further. The Scientology church is really strange. I didn't know anything about them. Another strange way to have church in what I experienced is the Quaker church.
I found that most of my teachers through my lifespan have been Baptist.
Billy Graham started me off with his little book on How to study the Bible.
I listened to Charles Stanley and Derek Prince, now I listen to Jack Hibbs sermons on Sunday and Wednesday.
I love the Church, the body of Christ everywhere. I pray He will show everyone His truth or make us aware of scriptural truth so we are not following false prophets.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I am a student of scripture for life.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant, however in case it is so, I would like to respectfully point out that the Scientology church is in no way affiliated with Christian Science
Very good!
I left the Catholic Church because I had lots of questions about purgatory, praying to saints, worshiping idols etc. I am now a babtized born again Christian, my family is mostly catholic, so when one of my relatives died I asked the priest during the service if I could take communion, I explained to him that I have professed Jesus Christ as my Lord and personal savior , he denied me the table of Jesus Christ, because I was not a member of the Catholic Church. That really shocked me. Jesus would never turn any one away from his table.
You grew up Catholic so why would you ask that? You know how strict the Catholic Church is.
@@htran18There is no salvation in any church. There is only salvation in Jesus.
Why would u even ask if you can take when you can just go up and take it, they'll say body of christ and "amen, but transubstantiation is unbiblical"
When a person leaves the Catholic Church, whether they leave of their own accord-( like you did), or are forced out due to another reason, that term is called Excommunication. Excommunication means not being able to receive the Holy Eucharist. Your priest didn’t refuse you communion because he’s a jerk or doesn’t like you, it’s because you excommunicated yourself from the Catholic faith. He’d be a very wrong priest if he allowed you TO partake in Holy Communion. You have to be a believer in One Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church to receive the Holy Eucharist, and since you left the church, the sacraments are no longer available to you, even if you still believe in Jesus.
@@Elizabeth-rk3do oh brother this script is getting old . Do you have a new script or the same script? . You might have a point . The trouble is that being slapped in the face with regurgitated rhetoric is wearisome. No none will listen if they feel they are being attacked or read a script z that you don’t understand is obvious . Why don’t you try a different take.
Read “The Desire of Ages” book for yourself, a masterful telling of the life of the life of Christ. You will not regret reading this book! I have read it over and over again, and been blessed every time!
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#1
What about reading the Bible FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST?
#2
Have you read the Bible OVER and OVER again ?
#3
Have you not been blessed by
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul who ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ?
#4
Does not the Bible TELL the life of Christ ?
#5
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle / Disciple unto Christ?
Chapter and verse please ?
#6
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes ...or....no my friend
#7
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes ...or ...no my friend
Chapter and verse please
#8
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#9
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#10
Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
#11
Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED ,
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
It's not about books of EGW , it's about what SDA became to be.
@@porfiriojohn5276 why cannot anyone read the Bible first and then read The Desire of Ages as a sideline? There's 24 hours in a day! I was blessed deeply blessed reading the Conflict of the Ages series back to back years ago.
You read more than the Bible, no?
Just enjoy goin on a road or book trip of over 700 pages on the life of Christ. What's it gonna hurt?
@@robertray4191
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#12
You didn't ANSWER those questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks
1 Peter 3 : 15
#13
You still haven't REFUTED the FACT that NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
GOOD SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day!
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
ANSWER
REVELATION 1 : 18
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Read the enfancy gospels of Thomas about the life of Yeshua also read the gospel of Thomas. This is literally the only 2 text which have been carbon dated to the time of Yeshua not after like the whole new testament
The 10 Commandments are still valid. I think you should study on this more. The Sabbath was given to man at creation. Not just to the Jews.
Its based on creation but there is zero evidence anyone observed the sabbath before God gave the commandment to Moses. Where there is no law there is no sin says the Apostle Paul. As Christians we follow and are under the New Covenant. The 10 Commandments are still true but the sabbath has been fulfilled in Christ as I explain here - ua-cam.com/video/SpjGPPVRYrY/v-deo.html
@@Pastor_Grant have you considered that...
1. God Himself rested on that day and forever hallowed it to be His day?
2. The 10 commandments are distinct from the larger body of laws known as the Mosaic law which included dietary laws, laws about clothing, etc. So while most of the Mosaic law is superceded by the new covenant by Christ's sacrifice, the Ten Commandments were never abrogated.
3. Seemingly to emphasize their eternal finality, God not only verbally dictated them from the mountain but also wrote them on tablets for Moses. And when Moses destroyed them in anger they had to be reproduced. And then had to be kept inside the ark of God! Remember the spiritual concept of a thing repeated being final with God (Pharaoh's dreams interpretation)?
4. There is none among the 10 commandments which we have reinterpreted like the Sabbath commandment. If laws about idol worship, murder, adultery, honor of parents, etc are all considered inerrant/final and not modifiable based on our interpretations, why should this one command be different?
5. God who divinely orchestrated that time on Earth will be reckoned around the lifetime of Christ (AD / BC) also ensured that Saturday is universally made a non-working day.
With all of these it seems to me there's no reason other than going with the crowd to not observe Saturday as the day of rest as God designed it from the creation of the universe. We should obey God in all things for which His word is clear on meaning and application, our contemporary culture/ideas notwithstanding.
Yes, Jesus gave more context to help our understanding of the aim of the Sabbath but He never repealed it. Just like He didn't repeal the commandment against adultery when He saved the woman caught in it from being stoned.
may the Holy Spirit guide you, you do not really understand the words of Christ regarding the Seventh-Day Sabbath.
God never change the Seventh-Day Sabbath, only man change that on Sunday. Read the history from the Book of Daniel,.
Mathew 5,
Colossians 2 : 14,
Hebrews 8 : 13
JESUS changed the 10 commandments, made them obsolete when He nailed it to the cross.
New subscriber here, after listening to your explanations about the 4 cults. Thank you for staying with true Biblical teachings! 😊😇🙏🙏🙏🙌
This ia great! A straight forward breakdown of differences in tentents within these religions
I was raised a 7th Day Adventist, and it is my belief that every denomination is a cult. They all have the opportunity for salvation, but it comes only by Jesus Christ, and not by any denomination. Many recognize Jesus as the way, but they also subscribe to the theology of their church guru's... I believe it is about a relationship with Each of us and Jesus. The word of God is the letter He has preserved for us, and we can hear and be heard through prayer! We can access Jesus through those tools. We do not need churches to access YHWH, just His Son, Jesus.
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#1
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( Do you agree ? )
SIMPLE Yes...or....no
#2
Do you believe in the GODHEAD?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
#3
Do you believe in the PHYSICAL RESURRECTION of Jesus Christ on a SUNDAY that he AROSE on the FIRST day of the WEEK being SUNDAY under Jewish CALENDAR
SIMPLE Yes...or....no
#4
Do you DENY the Divinity of
Jesus Christ ?
SIMPLE Yes.....or....no
#5
Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD ?
SIMPLE Yes...or....no
BIBLICAL GOSPEL
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 Just wondering, is this your own creation (the questionnaire format) or else where did you find it? Seems very useful and I would like to be able to attribute it correctly. Thank you 🙏🏼
And shouldn’t #4 be phrased as “ACCEPT” in order to be consistent with the other questions, where yes is correct and no is 🔥? I know it’s a nitpick.
@@dukeon
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It wouldn't make sense to say
Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPT WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD
ACCEPTED would be more accurate
As in
Do you believe that Jesus ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD
@@dukeon
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I asked these questions based on the opening comment , because I know where he is coming from
Every comment is different based on their bias
God gave his only begotten son so that we may live , his only begotten son set's at the right hand of God 💯🙏
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Yes the verses regarding the human aspect of Jesus Christ
While simultaneously do you DENY the Divinity verses of Jesus ?
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Jesus ACCEPTED WORSHIP as the MOST HIGH GOD
Thank you sir Pastor Grant. This was awesome information.
Excellent summary, one that I've been looking for for a while. I think you presented this in a very fact-based manner, under the belief that the current cannon is the only true authority. Thank you for the work it took to provide a concise summary.
I thank God for being an SDA. Regardless of the attacks, true SDAs cling to our beliefs that are drawn from the bible. EGW was a passionate bible advocate. I challenge anyone to set aside their preconceived ideas about her and read her writings. I suggest to start with Steps to Christ, then read the Desire of Ages and then the Great Controversy. I also thank God for the Sabbath because that helps me to recharge after working during the week. I am then able to focus on serving others and spending quality time with God throughout the day: through reading my bible and prayer, or walking in nature or being with my family or church family.
I was an SDA for almost 20 years. That religion is of Satan. No disrespect to you but you need to look deeper in that religion. The foundation of the SDA is built on a dangerous lie. I pray you find yourself out of that cult.
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All your doing is the Old Regurgitation of Indoctrination of Adventism by claiming someone is attacking you merely by stating the FACTS in this video of which you haven't even REFUTED
#2
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
True Christians have their beliefs from the Bible, too.
But we disagree with you.
Main reason is we believe if something in the OT is not confirmed in the NT, it is no longer a commandment.
Sabbath is not confirmed to a day in the NT.
Look up Sabbath in a bible cincordance. It refers to a day and the days in between the Sabbath in the new testament..
That is where we get 7 days a rest a week, as Jesus is the Lord of the Sabbath. You must know what words mean.
That said, you can observe the Sabbath in truth and God will be pleased, unless you are disobeying God in life.
God gives rest, not a day.
I Thank my Lord that I was liberated from Adventism about 14 years ago. What a Blessing it is to be free in the Lord.
I urge Adventists to put aside Ellen White's private interpretations and anti biblical ideology, and instead focus on what the Bible actually says. Start by reading the gospels to understand the love and ministry of Jesus. I would then switch to Paul's letters to understand the pillars of Christianity and Main Believes. The source of truth is the Bible and Bible alone!
@@richardsoto278 amen
To say something about anyone that is NOT accurate is to bear false witness … and SLANDER
Mormons are told bear false witness its called testamony. They will sell there pure bullshit try convince. They will not tell truth newnamenoah is lds that does tell truth. Endowment was recorded live shows lucifer being god who answers adam and eves prayers. Most of it unbiblical in Lds
Niiice 👍🏽
Accurate
What is the context of your statement?
@@squadroncontrolroom4147Accurate nonsense.
I had a good friend who was a CS. He refused simple medical treatment which got worse and died at 49 leaving behind a wife and two teenagers.
YES, SDA on this list is correct.
I was a Pentecostal Christian for a long time, and had a lot of questions about death, resurrection, prophecy ... Then I found the truth in the SDA church all my questions were answered so easily. Before, the book of revelations and Daniel were not even attempted to be explained in church.
For all those wanting to know the truth I encourage you to read the bible for your self and not listen to a person point of view of what is out there. Have an open mind in seeking the truth in the bible and God will guide you.
I had read the entire Bible many times before I heard of the SDA church.
The Bible says that the true and living God is omniscient. God already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4 For me to say that God needs to do an 'Investigative Judgment' to determine those that are saved would be blasphemy. God knows all things. God never needs to investigate anything ever.
The 2300 days prophecy is a historical event that occurred between 145 BC until 151 BC. (6 years, 3 months, 18 days) It was a time of great persecution by Antiochus. He desecrated the temple. For 2300 days and nights the morning and evening sacrifices did not occur. Judas Maccabeus is credited with victory over this evil.
Jews celebrated this victory. It's called the Feast of Dedication. Jesus celebrated this event himself each year. John 10:22-42 This year it will be celebrated from November 25 - December 2, 2023.
For Ellen White to come along and say that the days mean 'years' and arbitrarily say the 'years' started in 457 BC is completely wrong and offensive. You can't change historical events.
By reading the Bible, we know that hell is just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46 Jesus said so. God's holiness requires justice. Those who reject what Jesus Christ did for them on the cross will spend eternity in conscious torment in hell paying for their own sins. Everyone is a soul. Their soul is eternal. They will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus said.
Those who are born again are immediately sealed with God's Holy Spirit. Ephesians 1:13-14. The seal of God is not keeping the Sabbath. That is not in the Bible.
There will never come a time when those who keep the Sabbath will be killed by those who worship on Sunday, once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect. Cults always have a persecution complex. "Nobody likes us." This event is nowhere in the Bible.
By the same token, God will never destroy with fire those who worship him on Sunday, as Ellen White taught. What kind of a God does that?
God had commanded that women are to be silent in the church. I Corinthians 14:34
I follow Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ said, Take up your cross and follow me.
John 10:27-29
My sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me.
And I give unto them eternal life and they shall never perish neither shall any man pluck them out of my Father's hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Jesus said to go into all the world and preach the gospel.
That is what Jesus did.
Mark 1:14-15
That is what the apostle Paul preached. Acts 20:20-21
"I preach Christ crucified."
Jesus Christ never said to preach prophecy. Everyone you see is a soul. Their soul is eternal. They will spend eternity in heaven or hell as Jesus said.
Cults also focus on end-times events rather than the gospel. They don't care about the souls of men. After all, once you get rid of hell there is nothing to fear. 😢
Remember the words of Jesus. "Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God."
Thank you. Who is this man who elevates himself above all the religion's? Is he perfect? A God? I pity him.
Walter Veith is excellent.
@@Elizabeth-rk3doOne question.
After you read the LAST paragraph in Malachi, burn to ASHES, THAT is IT.
I had a comparative religion class in HS. Father Thier was our teacher. He told us that SDAs all have ascension robes. And even few years they stand on a hilltop and wait for Jesus to come back. . .then I met an Adventist and I asked her. She was surprised that anyone would say that.
I always go directly to source to discover what they believe
Asking "Father" Thier or any other priest about the SDA is a bit like asking a prisoner if they are guilty. Although most of their leadership has gone apostate, the SDA are the only protestant denomination that still (correctly) identifies the papal system as antichrist.
Seventh Day Adventist have a UA-cam its under 3ABN if you care to look in for your self.
What the heck is an ascension robe? 😂
The SDA arose out of the Millerite movement which mistook the 1844 end of the 2300 years of Daniel 9 : 24 to 27 Prophecy to be the return of Jesus = the Ascension.
When they studied the Prophecy the group who understood the prophecy became 7 th day Adventist.And any Christian who can unravel Daniel 9:24 to 27 would become Adventists.
@@rajdialnandram5676 they got it wrong, the year the decree was issued to Nehemiah not Ezra in 454 bc not 457. It was Nisan 14th at the 9th hour noted in the scriptures for those who have wisdom. Exactly 483 years later JESUS dies on the ✝️Nisan 14th at the 9th hour 31 ad. The prophecy says after 69 week Messiah cut off no baptized , and HE preformed to the day and hour.
Ezek. 4:1-5 390 years began the same year 454 bc as a second witness. It was fulfilled in a Pompey iron pan siege in 63 bc. The prophecy says the arm is revealed in Ezek. 4:7 being the same arm in Isa. 53:1.
There was a blood moon tetrad over Nehemiah's head Passover in 454 bc; see NASA 5 Millennium lunar eclipse; 453 bc.
Dan. 9:27 is passion week 7 literal days.
The many are Gentile believers.
The covenant is Isa. 55:1-7
What confirmed it was the sure mercies of David after the week Resurrection Sunday at the breaking of the dawn.
The Midst of the week was a Wednesday\Thursday Passover and ✝allowing for 3 days and nights in the heart of the earth. Not EGW's Friday Catholic error seh copied. 1st Pet. 3:18,19 HE taught the conscious spirits in Abrahams' bosom and HE didn't lie to the thief on the ✝️, Ellen lied.
The sacrifical system ceased on a Thursday ✝️with it is Finished.
The abominations were 40 years of crimson thread worthless animal sacrifices.
HE WORD YHWH made thy Holy City desolate of thy people even until the consummation aka 70th week.
There is no date for Steven's death ending the 70th week in scripture. Sda invented it to made their errors fit.
That determed is Lk. 21:24 fulfilled by the Rapture and Jerusalem anexed back to an Israel Ellen prophesy would never be rebuilt or occupied. Which is antichrist to JESUS prophesy many times it would in Lk. 21:24, Micah 5:3, Isa. 66:8, Rev. 12:2-4 to list a few.
be poured upon the desolate is the Gospel poured upon the children of the desolate Isa. 54:1. The Gentiles.
God job! Well researched and simply presented!
Amen. Thank you JESUS, I learned young in life and experienced that GOD, OUR FATHER IN THE NAME OF JESUS, through HIS HOLY SPIRIT is real. When we search HIM with our WHOLE HEART, we will find HIM. HE answers us. ❤.
How come the Roman Catholic church didn't make the list? Is it because they have a billion members?
😆🤣 My questions as well as were was Scientology listed?? I'd think they were more of a cult than SDA and JW imo
What makes you think that RC is a cult?
😂😂😂 I asked the same thing!!! Roman Catholic should head the list
Exactly...he is afraid of them.
@@EyesWideOpen2That how you know this Pastor is not telling the thruth.
Interesting, Pastor Mike. A few points: There have been different people who have greatly impacted or changed beliefs and/or doctrines, i.e. Luther, Wesley, Tindale, Calvin, Smith, Darby (rapture theory and dispensational belief), Scoffield (included Darby's theory & teachings as notes in the Scoffield Bible), Miller (a Baptist preacher, year for a day teaching re: 2300 "days"), Edsen (Jesus moved to inner sanctuary Oct 22, 1844 for Investigative Judgment work), E.G. White, and others. Following the teachings of a person regarding beliefs and faith does not necessarily make it a cult. Can one's Christian faith stand on the Word of God? Is it influenced by teachings of men (or women)? Are those teachings sound biblically? How close to the original scriptures is the version of the bible being used? Re: Sabbath, it was established and demonstrated by Father & Son in creation, sanctified and blessed, given as a commandment on tablets of stone, written with His own finger, twice, placed in the ark of the covenant. When did God authorize or instruct not to observe it? Did Jesus observe it? Malachi 3:6 Who is adopted into Israel? Re: Eternal hell-Malachi 4:1, John 3:16.
EG White was not the (only) founder of SDA. The founders stemmed from Millerites, the Jehovah's Witnesses stemmed from SDA. The Baptists stemmed from Calvin, Darby, Scoffield and others.
There were many doctrines and beliefs that sprouted and took root in the 1800s. The more I study, the more it seems there have been many earnestly seeking a renewed relationship with God, and there are many false teachings. I have yet to find a church, denomination, or group of believers that seem to have everything right. Paul's letters prove that problems existed from the 1st century church, and it exists today. Let us search the scriptures for God's truths, uplift the brethren, pray for each other that we be not haughty, nor judgmental, love without ceasing, and witnesses to the grace of the Father through the blood of His Son, following in His footsteps and His commands.
Much of what Ellen White taught is nowhere to be found in scripture.
The true and living God is omniscient. God already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4 It is blasphemy to say that God needs to do an 'Investigative Judgment' to figure out those who are saved. God never needs to investigate anything ever. God knows all things.
Jesus Christ never started the 'Investigative Judgment' on October 22, 1844. (The word 'Investigative' and the date, October 22, 1844, are nowhere in the Bible.)
Jesus Christ never entered the Most Holy Place on October 22, 1844 either. All throughout the New Testament it says that Jesus is seated at the right hand of God. Jesus was not living in an 'apartment' and then entered the Most Holy Place on October 22, 1844. Jesus Christ ascended immediately into the Most Holy Place.
The seal of God is not keeping the Sabbath. Those who are born again are immediately sealed with God's Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 1:13-14
God will never destroy with fire Christians who worship God on Sunday, as Ellen White taught. What kind of a God does that?
And neither will those who worship on the Sabbath be killed by those who worship on Sunday, once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect. This is fake news.
The 2300 days prophecy occurred from 145 BC until 151 BC. (6 years, 3 months and 18 days.) Antiochus desecrated the temple for that period of time. Judas Maccabbeus was victorious over the shocking event. This victory, called the Feast of Dedication, has been celebrated each year since then. Jesus celebrated it. John 10:22-42. This year it will be celebrated from November 25 - December 2, 2023.
The idea that you can change the days to 'years' and arbitrarily say that the 'years' started in 457 BC is shocking. We are commanded not to add or change anything to Holy Scripture.
We know that Jesus warned of hell more than anyone else. Jesus said that hell was just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46 Jesus even said that it was better to cut out your eye and cut off your hand than to end up there. You wouldn't do that if you were just going to be annihilated. Hell was very real to Jesus. Luke 16
I could go on and on.
I urge you to read your Bible as a child. Nothing is more important than where you spend eternity.
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover.
The Sabbath was a sign between the nation of Israel and God. We are no longer under the Old Testament. We have a new covenant, the New Testament. We are under the law of Christ. There are 53 commands of Christ in the New Testament. Not one of them mentions keeping the Sabbath.
Why isn't keeping the Sabbath mentioned in the New Testament? If God is going to destroy those who worship on Sunday with fire, Jesus would've said so. 💕
@@Elizabeth-rk3do Hi Elizabeth. Thank you for your reply. Perhaps we can clear something up right away. I am not SDA, so the use of "you" this and "you" that is unnecessary, and a misjudgment.
I agree with a good number of things you said, tho not all. I reviewed the bible references you gave. Thank you. My husband and I have had many discussions about the Lazarus and rich man verses, whether they were fact or parable. In the same chapter are other important verses, Luke 16:9 (everlasting habitations), 13 (cannot serve God and mammon), 15 (God knoweth your hearts), 17 (easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail), 18 (Jesus expanded the commandment on adultery, as he did with hatred is murder in the heart). Matt. 25:41 (everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels), 46 everlasting punishment v. life eternal - if one is punished by being burned up till they have no root or branch (Malachi 4:1), Malachi 4:3 (ye shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet), isn't that an "eternal" punishment in that they don't receive eternal life? If they are continually burned forever,
they would have eternal life... of punishment. But the term "perish" is used in John 3:16 and 10:28. Rev. 20:10 says the devil, beast and false prophet are in the lake of fire, "tormented day and night for ever and ever." Rev. 20:14 death and he'll are cast into the lake of fire. They are NOT the lake of fire. Rev. 20:15 judgment - those not in book of life are then cast into lake of fire. Note, it doesn't say they will be tormented forever as it does for devil, beast and false prophet.
Re: Sabbath, having read and studied from Gen. 1:1 - Rev. 22:21, we find that the day of rest was established by God and Jesus in creation. It's not just for the jews. Jesus, the apostles, and Paul all honored it. Nowhere in the scriptures did God instruct to change the day to the 1st of the week. A brilliant pastor, Chuck Misler, found the same, so he and his wife honored the Sabbath. 1 John 5:3 says, "for this the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous." Is substituting Sunday for Sabbath acceptable or a rebellion to God? That is something to consider, and for God to judge.
Just as we are to try the spirits (1 John 4:1), whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world, so, too, we are told in 1 John 3:24 he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him.
I personally do not believe EGW was a prophetess, but believe she experienced many partial complex seizures due to her head injury and was misguided by her mother and others around her into thinking they were visions from God. I also believe she was an impressionable teen when they began. Many were reeling from the "Great Disappointment," and trying to figure out what went wrong. Hiram Edsen was one of them, and so was James White. I wonder what influence they may have had on Ellen. By her writings, it seems she thoroughly loved God and Jesus.
Thank you, Elizabeth, for engaging in conversation on these things. It's a good day when we are in God's word. We may not agree or understand all things in God's word, but, clearly, we both love the Lord God and His Son. May you be blessed.
@@karenbuckner1959 Amen!
@@karenbuckner1959 I scanned your comment and only 2 things did God direct my eyes to, to comment on, as far as I can tell.
I have read that White questioned God on eternal torment, as every SDA I have ever talked to brings up. Oh, surely God won't.... Oh, yes SDA, He will. It is written.
Nowhere in the Bible, which is confirmed in the new covenant, the NT, does it say that unbelievers will not be tormented forever.
It does speak of everlasting fire in Mark 9:43-47, for the disobedient ones.
Take the word as it's written and then ask God, want the truth over your preferences, God will then give you His truth.
May God bless you.
You win the battle of the cults! Congratulations!
Finally someone puts up SDA as cult. Thankyou Jesus for bringing me out
Just to make myself clear, I'm not SDA. I'm just curious, do you still believe in keeping all ten of Yahweh's commandments, including the fourth commandment, that He wrote with His own finger in stone as well as the rest of His laws?
The Sabbath is part of Worship in obedience through Grace and in Jesus Christ. I found it in Biblestudy and obey as much as I understand. Then SDA found me and kept at it. I tried but could not settle on EGW and other of their doctrines. I believe the Vible and that The Holy Spirit is faithful in His leading and teaching the Truth from the Bible. Much I don’t know, but this I do: Since I left, I am not a person of nobody even wants to know.
Sorry: Bible
@@elizabethdewet1659 good, sounds like you're on the right track. There are others but two good channels to watch are unlearn the lies and 119 ministries.
Like I said, I'm not SDA, but I do give them credit for waking me up from the deception. There are things I disagree with them about and a major one is they don't believe that we should be keeping Yahweh's seven annual Sabbaths that He commands us to keep. If you understand what they are about, it makes absolutely no sense to not keep them.
@@robertschmidt9296Colossians 2:16-17. Let no man judge you in meats, drinks and sabbath day. The fourth commandment is the only one not enjoined on the New Testament church in the New Testament. Read also Acts 15. The apostles said absolutely nothing about the Sabbath in their instructions to the Gentiles. Jesus is our Sabbath. We find rest in Him
As a Seventh -day Adventist,l neither get offended nor ashamed to believe in the scriptures in the very way they're presented without tilting them in interpretation to suit human tradition.The world needs the truth and not debate nor condemnation of the brother presenting.Humans study and they will discover the truth as long as every committed teacher of the truth does his role in the gospel commission.I thank God l am a Seventh day Adventist.
Amen!
Only the wicked ungodly unrighteous devils children don't know God to keep God Sabbath Exodus 31:12-18
You need your eyes to see better to study the scriptures
Eyes glasses is not of God so you need the holy Ghost out of the God head to heal your soul of your eyes
So you are proud to be a cult member? Wonders shall never end
Amen
Every religious organizations has their own doctrines , believes, traditions, customs and occasions that makes them united in their worship.however,at this end point of times,they were all in common by patronizing the COVID-19 vaccines and whatever religious group anyone belongs,everyone has been vaccinated with some booster shots.revelation13:16,17
Here a SDA member. I am so happy to belong to this so called cult. We study from the Bible and Ellen G White just provides a wider spectrum to understand. We can never get the credit that it was originally coming from G White. The Bible is the truth and we go by the Bible. We don’t approve of doctrines that are not proven with the Bible. If one is enlightened then prove it with the Bible. I am so sorry for those who have not spent at least one week studying the Bible and claiming to the truth, because then you will be a SDA .
This is the thing with SDA, you lots believe you are a Adventist first and then a Christian after, any religion that tries to put their beliefs on a pedestal must be investigated, EGW doctrines has deceptive poison in them, many truths with a sprinkle of Lie, that is why u believe in her teachings, until you read the Bible for yourself you’ll realize that writings were not God inspired, my friend I implore you pray earnestly so that God will reveal the truth to you.
Well said. Study to show thyself approved is what the Bible says.
If people were to study the Bible and accept the truth there would be no Sunday keepers. It is interesting to hear this brother naming the SDA church as a cult but I think they do this just as a salve for their conscience!
@@7ashoBeam -So true. Well said 👍
@@7ashoBeamHe is running scared because SDA pastors are calling out his church so it's a retaliation. You hit me, I hit back. It's another way the devil tries sidetracking people and letting these pastors continue brainwashing their members so they stay away from the SDA members and evangelistic series.
Hallelujah. Tysm for this! God loves us sm that he gave his one and only Son so that we can b forgiven and saved! Praise Yeshua! Praise Yahweh! Praise Roh Kudus! God bless u man❤️💯!
I have briefly learned some of these caults but not as extensive as this. What an eye opener.
Salvation is in Jesus Christ by repentance and believeing in him
Also permanently stop sinning, getting baptized, and have 100% relationship with him. Everything that we do in heaven, we are supposed to do the same thing here on earth. Never walk and do worldly activities with carnal people. Permanently stay out of world traditions.
@@marciturner4980
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So you've PERMANENTLY STOPPED SINNING ?
@@marciturner4980
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What about your relationship with the Investigative Judgment ?
@@marciturner4980
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LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
@@marciturner4980
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#1
So in others words simply going to an SDA church on Saturday's males one SINLESS WITHOUT SIN and by default means one is KEEPING and OBEYING ALL the Commandments of the Commandments of God ?
#2
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS.........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes.....or......no
#3
LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS........
SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL, NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes.....or......no
#4
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
#5
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ
Chapter and verse please
#6
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
Chapter and verse please
#7
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#8
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no
#9
Is there a reason that NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY other
Seventh day Adventist hasn't even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ on ANY of these Threads/ Comments ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I my friend
The Seventh day Advantest church was not started by Ellen G. White. The Sabbath is not Jewish, Adam and Eve were not Jewish. The sabbath was instituted at creation.
I explain all this in my full video pinned to the top of the comment section.
@@Pastor_Grant give people the truth as it is.
The Adventist Church was not started by White. But Miller and White started an offshoot in the church that became the SDA Church. Might have been someone else involved. But White became the primary voice...for the new religion. God did not have anything to do with their formation.
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Adventism is Mormonism
Adventism are the
Jehovah's Witnesses
@@porfiriojohn5276 THANK YOU!
If you seek the Truth with all your heart, you will find Him. He is the Way, the Truth And the Life. Yes there are many false teachings, even in mainstream evangelical churches too. Only those who truely seek the Truth will find Him! Great to hear how many have found the Truth of Gods Word and escaped the false doctrines of the churches. I came out of Calvinism. Pray for those who have not yet found the Truth.
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#1
Where is your long exhausted list of ALL the GOOD WORKS that you have done that other denominations faith beliefs haven't done since the beginning of Creation ?
#2
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as
Ellen G White
William Miller
Joseph Smith
Charles Taze Russell
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 #2 you missed John Calvin
@@moiraravji5070
1 - 23 - 24
#3
You missed the BEST #1 topic in ALL of the Holy Bible of God's Word of Holy writ
The SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ and that's EXACTLY how I ended my last comment.....
( Did you see it ? )
What's your excuse ?
#4
Jesus Christ
The Holy Apostles
The Holy Apostle Paul
ALL went to the Synagogues on the Sabbath to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
What's your excuse ?
#5
NEW 19th century CULTS
DO NOT SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#6
NOT ONCE have YOU or ANY
Seventh day Adventist or ANY
Mormon or ANY
Jehovah's Witnesses on ANY of these Threads/ Comments has even bothered ONCE to mention ANYTHING about SPREADING or PREACHING the GRACE of the
Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy CHEERLEADING POM POMS for William Miller or
Joseph Smith ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#7
Isn't Adventism , Mormonism and the Jehovah's Witnesses SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE NEW 19th century religions denominations faith beliefs which are SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of
Jesus Christ ?
What are you all waiting for ?
#8
You didn't ANSWER the question
Where is your long exhausted list of ALL the GOOD WORKS that
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses have done that other denominations faith beliefs haven't done since the beginning of Creation of mankind ?
#9
You still haven't REFUTED the FACT
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as
Ellen G White
William Miller
Joseph Smith
Charles Taze Russell
Which of these three are you ASHAMED and EMBARRASSED to NOT ADMIT you belong to ?
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
Great information !!!!
I know about the Mormons and JW’s (not all of what they believe but most) , wasn’t 💯 about the 7th day Adventist other than them observing the sabbath and I know absolutely nothing about Christian Science so again, thank you for this very much needed information especially for Christian apologetics
This is much needed for us Christians who want to lead people to the Truth out of their cult (in truth and love of course)
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Mormonism: Joseph Smith was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
SAME AS.......
Adventism: Ellen G White was ALSO a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy
You can't lead people to the truth if you don't have it. Where do you go to church?
I’m 70 and have been in and out of the SDA church since I was 12, but a Christian in name only, until almost 9 years ago. I’ve studied the teachings in the Bible and Ellen White’s writings extensively. So I concur only that SDA teachings are as close to the Bible as any I can find. We teach righteousness by faith, that we are saved by Christ alone. Good works doesn’t contribute to our salvation, but a true Christian will have them. All other denominations I’ve studied or had any experience with err on obedience to God’s will. They would rather obey men and their philosophies instead of God in His Word. Hence the Sabbath. Twice in Revelation, God’s people are presented as keeping God’s commandments, which are the 10 commandments. Impossible in men’s effort alone, hence the need of righteousness by faith. While we are all sinners by nature, it doesn’t mean God expects us to stay that way. Christ imputes and imparts His righteousness to us. Right thinking and right doing.
Also, there is nothing of works in the investigative judgement. It is all done by Christ, who is our advocate and judge. It’s not so that God can discover who will be saved because He already knows. It’s so that all the universe will know the reasons behind God’s decisions. It only make sense that this judgement takes place before Christ’s return, because that’s when the decisions for the saved will get executed. In Revelation 14, there are 3 angels (heavenly messengers with messages) that tell us the judgement has commenced in the 1st angel’s message, with 2 yet to go.
In Daniel, it sets the time that this takes place as 1844. The 2300 day/year prophecy that started when king Artexerxes made the declaration for the Jews to return to Jerusalem and begin rebuilding the city and the temple. 2300 years later is 1844. There are time markers along the way in this prophecy of the 70 week prophecy that help to pinpoint the years. The last week (7 years) of the first 70 weeks (70 x 7 = 490 days:years) is the time when Jesus started His ministry at baptism , died 3 1/2 years later, then the gospel went out into all the world 3 1/2 years after He died and was resurrected. So there is biblical prophetic science of the 1844 date. Most people miss that because some people in the last 200 years have mistranslated the 70th week as a future time of some antichrist instead of seeing Jesus in it.
Actually the teaching of the last week in the 70 weeks of Daniel 9 being some time in the future began in the late 1500s and early 1600s by Jesuit scholars. Look up:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_del_Alc%C3%A1zar
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Ribera
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Lacunza
There was a growing Protestant movement at the time where students of bible prophecy were claiming the prophecies were pointing at the Papacy being the anti-christ of the last days. The current Pope commissioned some Jesuit scholars to look into those prophecies and come up with anything they could to discredit those teachings. Aside from inventing the 7-year tribulation they also came up with a few other things such as dividing the Medo-Persian Empire into 2 separate nations then claiming the bear in chapter 7 was the Medes, the leopard as the Persians thereby making the 4th beast Grecia and the little horn as Antiocus Epiphanes. I seem to remember also the 1,000 year reign on earth was a Jesuit teaching also.
I've come to very similar conclusion. I'm 65. Been investigating this God, bible thing since when I was 19.
If I were to choose an organized religion, I would probably choose SDA.
They have the Sabbath thing right. They seem to be for the most part a nonjudgmental people.
Argument over one conscience on another is futile. Example : Some SDA are vegetarian. Some eat meat. But they don't push one idea or the other.
I understand that the bible says you can eat what you want, but don't eat blood.
My conclusion. Humans are in a forsaken state. Jesus said it when he was being killed. I don't like the word and discription " crucified ", because it has a pagan ring to it. Just what my conscience says to me. Just like I don't like the description " religion " either.
We can't know the complete truth of God until we know His pure language. We have been left in the lurch.
Pure language is yet for the future.
I've done my best, and if my best is not good enough for God, go ahead God kill me off. Broad and spacious is road leading to destruction.
Don't want to be on that road. Hope I'm not part of 2nd Corinthians 4:4.
No way to tell for sure. My conscience is just as faulty as yours.
@@jesse75 Yes our conscious is faulty. But reading and studying the Bible helps set our conscious straight. May respond more later when I have the time.
@@KingArtexerxes Paul asked what appears to be his eyesight fixed renewed however you want to understand it. He had an ailment. But Jesus wouldn't fix it. Undeserved kindness was enough.
It must be the same for us. The time of " fixing " is not yet.
Truth is obscure and erroneous. Confronted by a faulty consciousness. We seek it like treasure.
Example. As a young man I studied theology. Didn't get the complete answers I was looking for. Put myself in college and studied neurology, physiology and psychology.
Now I'm able to understand. The occurrence in the garden with Adam and Eve makes complete sense.
Remember. Paul said some people would not have faith. That could be caused from a brain abnormality, or lack of a motivation or desire.
Man has a capacity of worship. That points to a God installation. The amygdala is like a rock you find. You pick it up and underneath it says "Made by God ".
See Cargo Cults. This is man's raw need for worship.
Alex Honnold. How did he do this amazing feat of daring ? A brain abnormality. MRI proof.
Phineas Gage is a classic study of brain trauma. Before and after effects.
Einstein had more gray matter than you or me.
We have the technology now to look into the brain. The MRI don't lie.
Why is there such a great divide ? This labeled republican democrat thing.
It is because of brain activity.
For some reason, democrats use the anterior Cingular cortex part of the brain as the defense and reasoning mechanism.
The republicans use a different part of the brain.
Then we have genetic triggers. People are at the mercy of them.
Reading and studying the Bible, meditation and prayer certainly has a healing effect. Just like eating good food.
Amen! Praise 7:31 Glory to God. Many of these so call Pastors will have blood on the hands and will definitely not make it to Heaven. These are true devil's agent.
I am a “BORN-AGAIN SPIRIT FILLED CHRISTIAN” and I Believe that the BIBLE is the “UNADULTERATED INFALLIBLE WORD of GOD, inspired by THE PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT” I believe it from GENESIS to REVELATION, and NO ONE can tell me anything Different. Thank GOD for the PRECIOUS HOLY SPIRIT’s work n the lives and hearts of men & women, boys and girls everywhere, who will Bring “TRUTH, and REVELATION KNOWLEDGE, and CONVICTION!! Your Article was very INFORMATIVE. 👏🏼👏🏼
Amen 👍
Exactly what our Pastor proclaimed two nights ago after finishing the study on John's Revelation. We are Seventh Day Adventists.
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Three days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets
Ellen G White
William Miller
Joseph Smith
Jehovah's Witnesses
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friends !
Unadulterated except for Kings and others changing it. Where is the original ?
Call yourself Christian is enough why Born again full spirit thats so American
Thats like a Hamburger plus
Or pizza XL😂
Is it possible to get a copy of the notes, so I can use it in my church ?
Thank you Pastor !
THANK YOU FOR THIS STUDY. I REALLY ENJOYED IT THESE STUDIES ARE IMPORTANT SO WE CAN NOT ONLY BE WATCHFUL BUT ASLO ABLE TO MINISTER TO THESE SOULS THAT ARE LOST IN THESE CULTS
If you believe history is helpful you might find this interesting. It's long, but it takes you through history.
ua-cam.com/video/_8Ixc5MSk2k/v-deo.html
One thing I take away is where the KJV bible says BELIEVE ON THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND BE SAVED. That's according to to my Sunday school worship in my Baptist Church
Do your own study in prayer,
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#1
CULTS do NOT SPREAD or PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
#2
You will 100 % NOT find ONE
Mormon
Jehovah's Witnesses
Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these Threads/ Comments SPREADING/ PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@clevehouse8605
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Study the Bible so one can interpret it through the eyes Ellen G White?
Study the bible with prayers for God's guidance. Youll ended up an SDA.... But for SDA's beware false babylonian doctrines creeping inside the church by the leaders. Enemies inside the church like Jesus encounters in his first advent. It will be repeat in the lasts days like our time today. Godbless us all🙏
Are you aware that Ellen g white died not believing Jesus is God but a servant of God. Which disqualified her from entering the kingdom of God according to New Testament
Trinity in Sda started in 1980
Read eph 2:8-10 you will be a reformed sda
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#1
You must have had ABSOLUTELY NOTHING better to do YESTERDAY on the SATURDAY you claim to keep Holy being BORED and LOCKED in your technology WORKING your technology and posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING / PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#2
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for ?
#3
You mentioned BABYLON
RCC : Mary the Mother of God
SDA : Ellen G White the Prophetess of God
#4
RCC : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
SAME AS...........
SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
#5
RCC : Has their seat in ROME
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
#6
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#7
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#8
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes...or...no my friend
Chapter and verse please
#9
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes....or.....no my friend
#10
Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#11
Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL
NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
Biblical Gospel
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Biblical Gospel
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
@@dannymcmullan9375explain?
@@dannymcmullan9375study the whole bible not only some verses
@@zouisingto3055
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#12
Feel free to ANSWER those VERY SIMPLE questions I asked you Adventists on this VERY THREAD giving you the opportunity to defend WHAT Adventism believes and WHY Adventism believes it in order to give an ANSWER to EVERYONE who asks
1 Peter 3 : 15
Almost all comments (including my own) can be distilled down to the following: "My crazy beliefs are so much better than your crazy beliefs".
I am a follower and believer in Jesus Christ, but I gotta say, I like your comment!
🤣
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord !
That's a very popular misquote of that scripture. Look it up in the KJV and read it word for word. The words, "... and to be present with the Lord," shows that the "and" is a conjunction between what is prior to, _and after,_ the "and". The former does not equal the latter, as Paul was simply expressing his desire to be with the Lord.
@@AlmondJoie
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LDS : The father of LIES the Devil is the Spirit brother of Jesus = YESHUA
SAME AS.........
SDA : The father of LIES the Devil is the SDA HERO SCAPEGOAT of Adventism ( NOT Jesus )
I recommend the book I Will Die Free by Noble Alexander. He’s a 7th Day Adventist who suffered 22 years in prison in Cuba.
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Yesterday SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
@@porfiriojohn5276 the Sabbath is the 7th Day as Created by Jesus during the Creation of the Earth . You can call Sunday anything you want and pretend it is the Sabbath Day. But it will always be Saturday. Isaiah 66:23 (KJV)
And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD .
HEBREWS 4
1Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it. 2For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it. 3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said,
As I have sworn in my wrath,
If they shall enter into my rest:
although the works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works. 5And in this place again,
If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief: 7again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said,
To day if ye will hear his voice,
Harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. 9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. 10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his. 11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Praise our Lord And Savior JESUS Chist .Amen 🙏
Why?
Thank you Pastor Michael. ❤❤❤❤
The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls proves once and for all that the scriptures have indeed NOT been corrupted.
There is no such thing as the dead sea scrolls that's why they keep them in Jerusalem museum in the least holiest state of Israel
@@Don-zc6or Really. So the Qumran Scrolls I saw with my own eyes during my visit to Israel, were a figment of my imagination.
@@Don-zc6or
5 - 6 - 24
The Largest Theologiacal Library in
Houston, TX at the Mark Lanier Theologiacal Library has part of the
Book of Amos of the Dead Sea Scrolls and he knows fluent
Hebrew and Greek
Seventh day Adventist is not a cult. This movement follows the Bible and the ten commandments with three Angels messages from Rev 14 :6-12.
People calling Seventh day Adventist a cult have changed the laws and doctrines which is not according to God's holy scriptures.
It's a satanic cult your religion is a satanic cult
Seventh day Adventist believe in the Bible and the Bible alone nothing else,and its atrue movement and a gate pass to heaven without doubt.
The book you call is a bookbof satanic doctrines of demons repent of your hatred of the Living God, The Lord Jesus Christ
It's the 10 commandments are your problem. They do not apply to gentiles. They were for jews only. Ot superseded by the nt. Gentiles are saved by grace and grace alone through faith. Not of works lest anyone boast. Salvation is by jesus christ only.
@kenh3344 your religion is still a satanic cult nothing you can say will change that .
Cult member here from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day saints. I am so thankful to be a member of this cult. It’s brought me much peace and understanding in my life and most importantly has brought me closer to my savior Jesus Christ. I appreciate that you are doing your best to follow Christ the best you know how. I encourage everyone interested in learning the truth about my cult to do your own research from primary sources, not from professional pastors who have a incentive to spread lies for clicks, follows, and $$
lol, well said
So, you fel for the original sin. Man can be gods. Mmmkkkay.
I couldn't have said it better myself
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#1
You mean MORMON
Hello.....the Book of MORMON
#2
You will not be a "" god "" of your own POLYGAMIST planet with goddess wives
Mathew 22 : 30
#3
Russell Nelson said MORMONISM is Catholicism when POPE Francis met with your MORMON leadership at the dedication of your NEW MORMON Temple in ROME when POPE Francis was invited
And I QUOTE
Russell Nelson
"" We MORMONS have MUCH in COMMON with Catholicism . The differences in doctrine are real - and they're important- BUT they're not as important as the things we MORMONS have in common with Catholicism ""
Oops 😬 sorry 😞......
He said this
March 9 , 2019 at your NEW MORMON Temple in ROME
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my MORMON friends!
None of your fabulous life acknowledges that your beliefs are far different than what is taught in God's Holy Word. If you read an unbiased history of Joseph Smith, you will realize he was just one of many charlatans, and not a very smart one. Likely an associate (Cowdry) wrote the book, because Joseph was almost illiterate. Neighbors described Joseph and his father as "dreamers and sloths, always digging for treasure in the NY hills." I suppose witchcraft brings many people peace and understanding also (according to them). You DO know that Native Americans have NO DNA connection to Israelites? Many other faux pas by Smith are evident in The (fake) Book of Abraham, where he says Native Americans had cattle and horses and various plants that were NOWHERE in the New World. The Bible is verifiable; the writings of this imposter are laughable.
I do NOT think God will deal kindly with mere mortals who term His Holy Word as "corrupted", including Islam and Mormonism. I certainly cannot comprehend an ego that big or misguided. Only the 66 books, and only Christ's sacrifice!!!!!!!
Can you tell me who started the trinity doctrine and what happened at the council of Nacea. Father, Adonai are titles and not name.
The concept of the trinity is based on the Bible.
Brother in-Christ thank You for keeping Us Inform about the Cults?
I'm a SDA Christian. Thank you for your opinions. Be careful how you address any of God's children, broken as they may be they are still the apple of His eye. Faithful souls have always constituted God's church on earth. Acts of the Apostles pg 11 EG White. Read the Word, follow it's teachings, be faithful to the end.
You just validated his point that SDA teaches works salvation, by "being faithful to the end." Jesus is the "Author and Finisher of our faith."
@@jamestubervilleThank you Jesus! Colossians 1:6; John 10:27-29;
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#1
Adventism is not Christian
#2
Adventism is just the Old Regurgitation of Indoctrination of the writings of Ellen G White that has their own little Fundamental Belief system surrounding itself around Ellen G White just like her contemporary Joseph Smith
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
You also validated his point and contradicted your own when you said, "read the word," and then cited Ellen Whtie's writings. Why do we need her writings? We already have the greater light of God's word.
Do you believe that your sins, past, present, and future, have been blotted out on the cross, that they will never be counted against you, and that you have full assurance of salvation?
@@toddott633 I am an SDA member I totally believe that in Christ my sins have been forgiven
But that does not tell me to go back a steal, lie, kill and disobey God
But I believe that in Him ( Christ), I am given power to live a life that I once knew it was impossible to live
To live with peace with God
I only praise God that away of salvation could be found in Christ and through His word ( the bible ) am told how to live the new life
Through the word we are told of the war that is their and we are told also of the spirit of prophecy in the ends times
Let's come in unity and study the word diligently and appreciate the works of God in our lives
The seventh day Adventist church believes in the Bible both the new testament and the old testament , The people believe that Ellen G White's teachings are a lesser light which help the church understand the greater light , ie the BIBLE
Even if you go to investigate their beliefs , you can't help but see that they were derived from the Bible
@Michael Phiri
Then you don't know your bible.
Did JESUS describe Abraham's bosom for not? Lazarus was in Abraham's bosom conscious in the Paradise side of deaths prison. The rich man also conscious knew where he was and why he was in torment.
JESUS said to the thief on the cross "verily, I say to you TODAY thou shall be with me in Paradice". Ellen makes CHRIST a liar to the thief on the cross. She says no, you must soul sleep "annihilated" 1813+ years to have your life investigated for spot or blemish to be found worthy of HIS grace and mercy. This is a false Gospel and EGW is accursed.
1st Pet. 3:18:19 says CHRIST was quickened in spirit then desended to Abrahams bosom to teach the spirits in the heart of the earth.
Who is the LIAR? JESUS and HIS WORD or EGW and SDA?
They were derived from finding and cherry picking biblical verses out of context and without knowledge of the original languages.
@@rickhuntling7338 by closely zooming in to those passages you will be able what is really going on. Jesus never meant or wanted to contradict the scriptures (old testament)
And so did the writers of the old testament.
@@ivickkhomo963 there is no contradiction until SDA & JW start twisting scripture. Let me guess your going to cherry pick out of context Ecc. 9:5 LOL. Hint "let the dead bury the dead", CHRIST WORDs not mine. Zoom in kid, don't just accuse and run.
@@rickhuntling7338sda church base their beliefs on the Bible.
I'm not SDA, but can you explain why we would be obligated to keep the 5th, 6th, or 7th commandment but not the 4th? At what point did that change?
Praying for you. Let the Holy Spirit be your teacher. Revelation 14:12. Keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus. Praying earnestly, because Jesus is coming soon. 🙏
God started the church on a Sunday. It was called Pentecost. 50 days after Passover. Leviticus 23 and Acts 2
The New Testament church worshiped on the Lord's Day.
I Corinthians 16:2;
Revelation 4
The Sabbath was a sign between the nation of Israel and God. It was a day of rest, not worship. Exodus 16:29 - Anyone who left their home was stoned to death.
We are no longer under the law. There is a new covenant, the New Testament.
We are under the law of Christ. There are 53 commands of Christ. Interestingly, not one of them mentions keeping the Sabbath.
Romans 7:4
We are dead to the law.
@@AnithaJesudasan-vq4jz
12 - 31 - 23
#1
So Seventh day Adventists keep ALL the LAW of God Commandments of God by merely going to an SDA church on Saturday's and telling like minded people
"" Happy Sabbath ! "" ny default making them SINLESS and
WITHOUT SIN ?
Really.........?
What about the other NINE Commandments ?
Will you pass one day because of the wages of SIN ?
#2
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists do NOT SIN EVERYDAY knowingly or unknowingly ?
#3
So the testimony of Jesus Christ is
Ellen G White ?
#4
You are STUCK on a NEW 19th century FALSE religion with a NEW 19th century FALSE prophet such as Ellen G White
William Miller
RATHER than a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
@@Elizabeth-rk3do so we have no obligation to the commandments? hmmm. I suppose Mat 5:17 words of Jesus don't count either then. Sure, we can worship every day, but I think that is different from sabbath. I think a close examination of the book of Acts shows the early disciples kept the appointed times. Are we not grafted in to Israel? If you are in Christ you are Abraham's seed. The day of the Lord mentioned in Rev is a vision of the day of judgement, referenced in Is 13:6.
@@dotjohnson231 You must keep the commandments perfectly to get into heaven. Matthew 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect.
Have you done that?
Thanks for the information
ADVENTISM Is NOT A Cult!!!
It is a Christian Faith That believes in God the Father, God the Son and The Holy Spirit.They keep the Same Sabbath as Jesus did when he walked the earth,The 4th Commandmen!!!
Maybe, thank you for your comment however I think following Ellen G. White as a prophet that is cultic.
@@Pastor_Grant We Don't Worship Ellen White,That Would Be Cultish.
@@smidtrovich the Bible is God's Holy Word.those that toss Adventism in with Cults lack Understanding.We believe in God the Father God the Son,who Is Jesus Christ,And the Holy Spirit,The Trinity.We Worship on The Sabbath,the Same As Jesus Did,Which is The 4th of the 10 Commandments.
@@smidtrovich tell me the source of your accusation against Ellen white , any of her writing you've read??
@@Pastor_Grant Do you know that SDA people are some of the longest living people on earth because they follow the guide by EGW. They don’t worship her, but use her teachings to guide them which is backed by scripture. SDA is one of the purest religions out there. Ever wonder why Sunday is considered the 7th day when it is clearly the first day of the week in the calendar until this day but we were brainwashed to believe that it’s the 7th day.
Sunday law will happen and it’s all after worship which will force everyone to worship on Sunday or else face persecution. That’s because the true sabbath is being suppressed.
Am grateful to the Lord that I have been a Seventh day adventist for 48 years of my life and that I believe that people is judge by the law and the testimony. Time will come when God will separate the bad weed from the wheat.
12 - 10 - 23
#1
You should be GRATEFUL to be a CHRISTIAN FIRST because the Bible comes FIRST and to be GRATEFUL to say that you are a BORN AGAIN Christian GRAFTED into the Body of Christ upon Conversion BY GRACE in FAITH ALONE in Christ for what he did on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL NOTHING ADDED NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY
#2
LDS : Mormonism teaches that Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS.........
SDA : Did Jesus FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery FINISHED PAID in FULL sins BLOTTED OUT FINAL payment paid in FULL , NOTHING ADDED
NO SECOND phase of atonement NECESSARY ?
SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend
#3
LDS : Mormonism teaches that your sins are NOT BLOTTED OUT
SAME AS........
SDA : Are your sins blotted out?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#4
Does one NEED TO be OBEDIENT to the LAW in order to receive
GRACE ?
SIMPLE Yes...or....no my friend
#5
Did Jesus REST on the Sabbath during his ministry on earth 🌎?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no
Chapter and verse please
#6
The Bible tells us to pray without ceasing ADIALEIPTOS in GREEK does NOT exclude SUNDAY'S, praying and worshipping are interchangeable
1st Thessalonians 5 : 16 - 18
#7
Are you going to suggest that ALL Seventh day Adventists should NOT WORSHIP on SUNDAY'S or SEVEN days out of the WEEK ?
SIMPLE Yes....or....no my friend
#8
Who chose Judas to be an
Apostle/ Disciple unto Christ?
Chapter and verse please
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it, Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
12 - 10 - 23
#9
LDS : NEW 19th century religion
( 1830 )
SAME AS........
SDA : NEW 19th century religion
( 1863 )
SAME AS.........
JWS : NEW 19th century religion
( 1875 )
#10
LDS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
SAME AS.........
SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
SAME AS.....
JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion denomination church
#11
LDS : Has their seat in UTAH
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
ANSWER
Romans 1 : 1
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
12 - 10 - 23
#12
LDS : Joseph Smith said Angels have GOLDEN PLATES
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White said Angels have GOLDEN CARDS
( Early writings 39 : 2 )
#13
Using the Bible ONLY
Using the Bible FIRST
As Adventists claim to do
WHERE in the KJV Bible 1611, or in the Hebrew, Aramaic or GREEK of the text do Angels have
GOLDEN PLATES GOLDEN CARDS just because Ellen G White and her contemporary Joseph Smith said so
( Chapter and verse please )
If you don't mind
Thank you in advance
ANSWER
Philemon 1 : 13
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Am sorry but you are a lost soul. You need Jesus to find you. The old Testament said we must keep the sabbath holy, which you guys are proud of it. The question is if you believe in Jesus Christ, what can you say when the saviour Jesus worked on sabbath where He heal aman in john 5? And the jews was angry with him for doing that on sabbath which to his response He said my father until now is still working meaning you must work whether is sartaday or not. And if you don't know that the sabbath was a sigh between the children of Israel and God. And am sure you are not an Israelite. Again in the new Testament in Hebrews it says "if the old Testament had no fault there's was no need for a new Testament" Which means the law was abolished on the cross. And we got a new law remember the sabbath law was given to mosses and we don't follow mosses cz mosses is not our saviour but we follow Jesus and His laws which is to love God, your neighbour's and to keep this laws. So you guys are a lost generation. The sabbath you are busy with it will not take you to Christ cz it was a sigh but the really rest is found in Jesus Christ.
Thanks, Pastor Michael
Thankyou for your encouraging words. Let us walk in the ways of righteousness for which we have been saved. It had been a bit traumatic.
Truth!!!
Jesus said "I am the door". No thinking person believes he meant he was literally a door! The point is while the Bible is the Word of God, it is also literature, there are parables, there is poetry, there is wisdom, there are metaphors, there is incredible examples of healing too. "I am the Lord that healeth thee". It is such a breathtaking fount of morality and salvation.
😢 it is so sad when pastors like this have so little knowledge of what they are actually talking about.
This one needs to do his homework before speaking again!
12 - 29 - 23
#1
The Bible uses parables and metaphors to convey LITERAL things that has happened , and will happen
#2
Jesus says
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ""
John 11 : 25
He ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY RESURRECTED on a SUNDAY
@@ruthdance3936
12 - 29 - 23
#3
What EXACTLY did the gentleman in this video say that was WRONG about Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses ?
#4
Adventism
Mormonism
Jehovah's Witnesses
ALL NEW 19th century FALSE religions with NEW 19th century FALSE prophets such as
Ellen G White
William Miller
Joseph Smith
Charles Taze Russell
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Bible is bible, it's record of work of God the past, witness by peoples and record them, bible is not the word of God alone but record of God's works
YES! I think many would find it interesting and very enlightening if they took the time to understand Hebrew grammar, idioms, how they used parables etc. Our English language has watered down, and in some cases completely twisted, so many wonderful truths. May Yah bless you and be with you ❤️
As a Life-long SDA I’ve never heard of the “sinless perfection” idea. I don’t know where he gets this. Maybe his own idea.
The SDA church has changed many things.
Remember, they taught that Jesus would return on April 23, 1843.
Then, they said that Jesus would return on March 21, 1844.
Then they said that Jesus would return on October 22, 1844.
Then they said that the door to heaven was shut on October 22, 1844.
Part of being in a cult is that their teachings change over time.
@@Elizabeth-rk3doTo you and all Sunday keepers.
The Bible says, Remember that thou keep holy the Sabbath day. The Catholic church says, No! By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day, and command you to keep the first day of the week. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐨, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐢𝐫𝐞 𝐜𝐢𝐯𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐳𝐞𝐝 𝐰𝐨𝐫𝐥𝐝 𝐛𝐨𝐰𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐛𝐞𝐝𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐲 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐜𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡!"
Father Enright, C.S.S.R. of the Redemptoral College, Kansas City, History of the Sabbath, p. 802
"The authority of the church could therefore not be bound to the authority of the Scriptures, because the Church had changed the Sabbath into Sunday, 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐲 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐟 𝐂𝐡𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐭, 𝐛𝐮𝐭 𝐛𝐲 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲." Canon and Tradition, p. 263
"Is not every Christian obliged to sanctify Sunday and to abstain on that day from unnecessary servile work? Is not the observance of this law among the most prominent of our sacred duties? 𝐁𝐮𝐭 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐦𝐚𝐲 𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐁𝐢𝐛𝐥𝐞 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐆𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐑𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐲𝐨𝐮 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐝 𝐚 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠𝐥𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐚𝐮𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐳𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲. 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐩𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐬 𝐞𝐧𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐢𝐠𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐨𝐛𝐬𝐞𝐫𝐯𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐒𝐚𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐲, 𝐚 𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐰𝐞 𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐟𝐲." -James Cardinal Gibbons, The Faith of Our Fathers (1917 ed.), pp. 72, 73.
"𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲...𝐢𝐬 𝐩𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐥𝐲 𝐚 𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡." American Catholic Quarterly Review, January 1883
"𝐒𝐮𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐲...𝐈𝐭 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐰 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐂𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐜 𝐂𝐡𝐮𝐫𝐜𝐡 𝐚𝐥𝐨𝐧𝐞..." American Sentinel (Catholic) June 1893
The Word of God says:
Daniel 7:25, "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐤 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."
The word of Rome says:
"𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐏𝐨𝐩𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐩𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞 𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬, 𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐛𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐥𝐚𝐰𝐬, and to dispense with all things, even the precepts of Christ." "The Pope has the authority and often exercised it, to dispense with the command of Christ." -Decretal, de Tranlatic Episcop. Cap. (The Pope can modify divine law.) Ferraris' Ecclesiastical Dictionary.
Elizabeth-rk3do, By the way, There was no SDA church at the time of those events you mentioned. It didn't start until after the Millerite disappointment.
𝐖𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐉𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐬 𝐝𝐢𝐝𝐧'𝐭 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐛𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐢𝐧 𝟏𝟖𝟒𝟒, 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐌𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐞 𝐌𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐯𝐞𝐝, but it left its mark on American history. Then, It sparked the beginning of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, which is a thriving Christian denomination today.
@@Elizabeth-rk3doim an SDA since 1980& was never taught what you posted ma'am! Be careful what you read or what someone else tells you with no proof!!
@Draco41 These are core beliefs.
I only use original sources from Ellen White and the SDA church. I don't like second-hand information.
I haven't listed Ellen White's stranger and fictitious teachings.
Of course, it won't matter what any church teaches the moment you die and meet God. It will only matter what God has already told us.
You should read your Bible. Nothing is more important than where you spend eternity.
@Nagin-zt6sc
I embrace the Bible. I have read the entire Bible times 40 times now.
God has commanded us not to follow false prophets. Deuteronomy 18
In fact, if they got one prophecy wrong, they were to be put to death.
God has also commanded that women are to be silent in the church. I Corinthians 14:34
I know more about the Bible than Ellen White and the other SDA leaders ever did. That is why I could never become a Seventh Day Adventist.
The true and living God of the Bible is omniscient. He already knew those who would be saved before he created the world. Ephesians 1:4
God never needs to 'investigate' anything ever. To say otherwise is blasphemy, breaking the third commandment.
I know that God will never destroy me with fire for worshiping him on Sunday.
I know that Jesus Christ said that hell was just as eternal as heaven. Matthew 25:46
I know that there is no 'soul sleep.' I will be even more alive after my death.
I know that those who worship God on the Sabbath will never be destroyed by those who worship God on Sunday once the 'National Sunday Law' goes into effect.
I already know that my sins have been forgiven. I know that I have eternal life and will live forever with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. 💕
"To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord."
Great video...thank you...
Russel liked to do prophecies and one was that the world was going to end in 1918. Here we are in 2024. You'd think that he'd be concerned what was going to happen in 1916....he died. If he can't predict his own demise he's no prophet. His lawyer, Rutherford, took over and he predicted the end of the world which didn't happen either. The last time the JW predicted the end of the world was 1975 and still we're here.
Hello everyone, I am a SDA, and it has always amazed me the most crictics of her are the ones that have never read her writings or just some of it. The SDA that are turning away are the ones that are listening to messages like this and don't read her writings for themselves. All through the Bible, the Lord has always had prophets and messengers, which is what she said she was to lead and guide His people! Check out Moses and what happened in that story. You just have to make sure you are listening to the right voices!!! Be blessed everyone and study to shew thyself approve - 2Timothy 12:15🙏❤️💯
10 - 28 - 23
#1
There you go being BORED and LOCKED in your technology posting more on Saturday's than ANY other day of the WEEK
#2
Here you are TODAY on the SATURDAY Sabbath you claim to keep Holy while simultaneously mentioning ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about SPREADING / PREACHING the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( NOT ONCE )
NOR has ANY other
Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these Threads / Comments
( NOT ONE ) ( NOT ONCE )
Why not ?
Too busy bestowing accolades to the Investigative Judgment ?
Too busy WORKING your technology ALL day on Saturday's ?
#3
Isn't Adventism SUPPOSED to be the ONLY ONE TRUE REMNANT religion denomination church which is SUPPOSED to SPREAD/ PREACH the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ?
What are you waiting for ?
#4
You are NOT RESTING
You are NOT PRAYING
You are NOT seeking the Lord's face
( Not that you know what that means ) TODAY on the Saturday you claim to keep Holy
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
( The CROSS ✝️ )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate HONEYCOMB and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus = GOD = YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE my friend !
I've actually studied Ellen G. White's writings. And the White Estates have full power to hide her earlier writings. Many who left the SDA church who knew of the earlier writings are now excommunicated from the SDA church and regarded as liars. I've found older works of Ellen G. White. And they do not match the present day editions of today. And we are supposed to disregard the earlier writings because we're told it's just minor spelling errors or fake teachings inserted by other believers who wanted to sabotage her original teachings.
As a person who has studied in depth into the teachings of Islam. SDA and Ellen G. white is no different. After studying the SDA church and its history. I do not see a difference from the spirit of Islam. She may have wanted to be genuine in her beliefs same as Muhammad. But they both believed in the angels that spoke to them. Don't disregard my words as ignorant. When I say I've gone in depth. I've gone in depth to the teachings of those religions. And the SDA church is no different. And knowing the White Estates refuses to release all her writings to the public and for all members to fully examine. Her earlier writings and letters were only leaked by former SDA members or older editions floating around in which I've found at antique stores and book stores that sell donated books. It's been made clear. The SDA church does not have the full knowledge of Ellen G. White. And some SDA churches are trying to remove themselves from Ellen G. White secretly because they know how much falsehood she stands for.
And to claim the name as the Spirit of Prophecy and the lesser light. She too is taking claims of the Holy Spirit.
I’m a seventh day Adventist.so many of her critics do not know the full truth about Ellen White,
She was a cofounder of the church, and never claimed to be a prophet but God’s messenger. Her writings are not doctrinal but messages of warning, rebuke or comfort and uplifting. She was warned that she would be disbelieved and her writings and messages would be rejected by the majority but she was to deliver them whether “ they hear or forbear.” The same Spirit that inspired her is the same Spirit that inspired the writers of the Old and New Testament. She warned that she was just a worm but to criticize the writings of the Holy Spirit is treading on dangerous ground. You have spread falsehood about Ellen White and SDAs. It is evident to me that you do not know truth and should take the Bible as it reads, not as a surface reader but a study of God’s word, comparing Scripture with Scripture. To accuse us of being a cult.is blatant falsehood, I study for myself and the fundamental doctrines are very clear to me. The premise to us is that the Holy Spirit would lead us into all truth. He will never contradict Himself and sincere seekers of. Truth will always find it.
@@loishenderson2348 you may not have heard about prophet Muhammad of Islam. Because he too claims not to be a prophet but only a messenger and a warner. Muhammad came only to confirm Allah is the one true god. Yet from out of Muhammad the Quran, the Hadiths, the 5 pillars of Islam, and Sharia. Also Muhammad was uneducated yet had great great wisdom and knowledge only Allah could have given him. Muhammad also claims not to have created Islam and not to be the first Muslim because Isa (Jesus), his followers, all prophets of the Bible all were Muslims. And the greatest of the 10 commandment was the 1st commandment(You shall have no other gods before me. That mean Allah is one, he has no equal, and you must not make anyone or anything equal to Allah. Why am I talking so much about Islam? Because Muhammad and Ellen G. White runs parallel in their prophet hood with their god/ Allah. Their beginning started the same. They both met an angel or possibly god/Allah when they were alone while in deep prayer searching their faith. I've studied Islam for years, and when my cousin became SDA. I didn't think much of it and thought the SDA church taught sound doctrines of the Bible just as Jesus' disciples(the original apostles), Paul(the apostle), and Jesus' other followers. But when I went a little deeper into the SDA church doctrines and history. I found 1844, a demand to obey the Sabbath, boosting of one's self not being a sinner, convenient visions from god/Allah when questioned, teaching a different Jesus yet claiming it's the same Jesus, misunderstanding of the word of God, claims of the spirit of prophecy/the Holy Spirit, and many more. As a person who once hated God with my very heart, mind, and soul. God broke through to me in the simplest of ways. Just placing a random Bible in front of me at my lowest point in life while contemplating suicide as the end all be all answer. There was no meeting of any angel, no visions, no dreams. Just simply reading the Bible for the convenience of reading it for the old stories I heard. Then as I was reading the Bible, I plot it to world history. And it opened my heart, mind and soul to God. And not even after one year of studying the Bible, I accepted Jesus as my God. And low and behold, along came Islam. My greatest challenge. A religion that rivals that of Christianity and Judaism. And after studying it in depth for at half of my life. SDA church doctrines and histories proves to be one in the same as Islam. They are of the same spirit. That's why I said they run parallel. I don't simply take someone's words for it and look at how happy it makes the followers or believers. I compare them to the Bible and history. If you will not do in depth research yourself. You will never see the uncanny comparison of Islam and SDA. And I know my salvation is in Christ alone because He is my rest, my Sabbath.
@@wtxohnthao2612
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Yes Muhammad and
Ellen G White were FALSE prophets
I found this very interesting. Thank you for explaining.
Literally none of these are cults.
@@espressogirl68able delusional statment.
Amen, and BE BLESSED IN JESUS NAME, halleluja
Very interesting Video. I was once involved with the JW cult when I was in my early 20's. I am now a Christian, which I'm thankful and proud to be.
However, you forgot to mention another cult, which is an offshoot of the LDS/Mormon Church called "Community of Christ" (formerly known as "Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints") that slightly differs from the initial LDS/Mormon Church. They reject the "Mormon" moniker, although they do utilize "Book of Mormon" and "Doctrine and Covenants" like the initial, but they also happen to be "Trinitarian", although they teach a different concept regarding the "most Holy Trinity". I suggest that maybe one day, you can make a video about the "Community of Christ", if you haven't done so already.
Thanks for this. I subscribed and also, signed up for notifications. Keep them coming.
I am an Orthodox Christian, Greek by origin. I am not a priest and I don't have any official position in the church. I find many of the videos you publish enlighting and thank you for that. I would disagree though about your comment that there is no mention of the Holy Trinity in the Bible. In my humble opinion, there is a very CLEAR and loud mention of the holy triad in the last Chapter of Mathew's Gospel. ver 19. I am able to read it from the original ancient Greek version where it is written that Jesus instructs his disciples to go and teach the nations and baptize them in the name of the Father of the Son and the Holy Ghost! There you go! 🙂
Thank you. I agree what I meant was that the word Trinity is not in the Bible but the concept is there many times.
True, it does say that exactly as you quoted. However, it means that there are three individual
entities, not three in one. That's how I understand it. There is God the the father, Jesus the son, and the Holy Spirit.
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The trinity states that:
There is one God.
There are three persons in the Godhead. Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
Each person is God.
"Baptizing them in the name (singular) of the Father, Son and Holy Ghost."
Yep, the Bible verse that you quoted is about baptising the believers in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
But it never says that there are three persons in one God.
The Lord Christ and His TRUE Apostles who wrote the books in New Testament believed and preached only one TRUE God, the Father who is a Spirit.
The 66 books of the whole Bible which were written by 39 diff people who lived in diff times and in diff places for a period of 1,500 years, mention only ONE TRUE God, the Father.
The term "person" (human) alone is blasphemous and an insult to Him who is everlasting with no beginning or end. An omnipotent and omniscient God who created all things.
It was only in year 325 A.D/C.E at the Catholic Bishops Council of Nicea when it became their dogma that their Christ was god.
Then in year 381 A.D/C.E, at their Council of Constantinople, they made the Holy Spirit as god.
@@gilfcato4995
There is only one true God. That is what the Bible teaches and what the concept of the trinity teaches.
It sounds like you are apostate from the teachings of the founder's of the Watchtower Society. They all said that you should worship Jesus. Even the literature that I got said on the front, 'To promote the worship of God.' 'To promote the worship of Jesus.'
Russell taught that we should worship Jesus and the initial Watchtower Charter's specified that establishment of the Watchtower Society was to promote the worship of Jehovah and Jesus. Yet since the 1950's, worshipping Jesus became regarded as wrongful idolatry.
Russell promoted the worship of Jesus and prayer to him because he is our God.
"It seems clear that His Divinity was retained in humanity because He repeatedly spoke of Himself as having come down from heaven, and because He, though passing through trial and sorrow as a man, was yet possessed of the authority and exercised the prerogatives of a God. He was the object of unreproved worship even when a babe, by the wise men who came to see the new-born King. Matt. 2:2-11.
Even the angels delighted to do Him honor.
"When He bringeth the first-begotten into the world, He saith, "And let all the angels of God worship Him." Heb. 1:6.
Jesus never reproved any one for acts of worship offered to Himself, but when Cornelius offered such service to Peter--the leading apostle-- "he took him up, saying, stand up; I myself also am a man." .... Had Christ not been more than a man the same reason would have prevented from receiving worship...."
Zion's Watch Tower 1880 Oct pp.2-3
"It is undoubtedly proper enough for us to address petitions to our Redeemer and Advocate, who loved us and gave himself for us....Although we are nowhere instructed to make petitions to him, it evidently could not be improper so to do; for such a course is nowhere prohibited, and the disciples worshiped him."
Zion's Watch Tower 1892 May 15 p.157
"Question. The fact that our Lord received worship is claimed by some to be an evidence that while on earth he was God the Father disguised in a body of flesh and not really a man. Was he really worshiped, or is the translation faulty?
Answer. Yes, we believe our Lord Jesus while on earth was really worshiped, and properly so. It was proper for our Lord to receive worship in view of his having been the only begotten of the Father and his agent in the creation of all things, including man."
Zion's Watch Tower 1898 Jul 15 p.216
"In one respect many of Christendom could learn numerous important lessons from these wise Gentiles....They worshiped him in three senses of the word:
(1) They fell before him, prostrated themselves, thus physically expressing their reverence.
(2) They worshiped him in their hearts and with the tongue gave expression to their rejoicing and confidence.
(3) They opened their treasure-box and presented to him three gifts appropriate to royalty: the myrrh representing submission, frankincense representing praise, gold representing obedience."
Zion's Watch Tower 1906 Jan 1 p.15
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Rutherford continued this teaching.
"Jehovah God commands all to worship Christ Jesus because Christ Jesus is the express image of his Father, Jehovah, and because he is the Executive Officer of Jehovah always carrying out Jehovah's purpose (Heb.:3-6)."
Watchtower 1939 Nov 15 p.339
"During the Millennium, "the princes will lead the people in their worship of Jehovah and of Christ." Vindication Volume 3 (J. F. Rutherford, 1932) p.295
"The people of all nations who obtain salvation must come to the house of the Lord to worship there; that is to say, they must believe on and worship Jehovah God and the Lord Jesus Christ, his chief instrument (Philippians 2:10, 11)."
Salvation (J. F. Rutherford, 1939) p.151
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Knorr continued to teach we should worship Jesus and the 1940's Watchtower articles still stated that Jesus was to be worshipped.
"Now, at Christ's coming to reign as king in Jehovah's capital organization Zion, to bring in a righteous new world, Jehovah makes him infinitely higher than the godly angels or messengers and accordingly commands them to worship him.
Since Jehovah God now reigns as King by means of his capital organization Zion, then whosoever would worship Him must also worship and bow down to Jehovah's Chief One in that capital organization, namely, Christ Jesus, his Co-regent on the throne of The Theocracy." Watchtower 1945 Oct 15 p.313
In 1945, Knorr amended the Watchtower's legal Charter. Included within the Charter was the statement that the purpose of the Watchtower Society is to promote the worship of Jehovah and Jesus.
What made you become apostate from the teachings of Russell, Rutherford and Knorr?
I am a Seventh-day Adventist. My church came out of the Millerite movement of 1844. After the great disappointment of 1844, some who still believed in the 2300 day prophecy of Daniel 8:14 came together for encouragement and worship. These people had been disfellowshipped from their previous churches for being Millerites and they came out of all the major and minor churches of their day. They didn't agree on matters of doctrine so one of their first acts was to go through the various doctrines one at a time in order to come to agreement. These meetings were called "The Great Sabbath Conferences". We determined to accept nothing but a clear "thus saith the Lord" from Scripture for any of our doctrines. This took a very long time, from 1844 to 1864 when we ?became the denomination called Seventh-day Adventists. Sister White did not play a major role in "The Sabbath Conferences". Most of the doctrines were hammered out without her help. The only times she took a part was when the conference were at a point where the differences seemed insurmountable, she would then be given a Biblical text which she would relay to the conference that would get them to talking again. At one point, the conference agreed that the Jewish Sabbath was the Biblical Sabbath and that it had never been changed by Christ or the Apostles, Sister White and her husband decided that they could not go along with this and were on their way out when it was revealed to her that they were wrong and they went back to the conference.
Sister White never claimed to be a prophet, she called herself God's messenger. Her visions were not readily accepted as being from God and she was never ordained as a Minister.
The conference of men agreed that the Sabbath was never changed from the Jewish Sabbath by Jesus or the New Testament? And White went along with men's opinion? Yet Jesus broke the Sabbath and said He was the Lord of the Sabbath.
The Sabbath was never confirmed in any new testament writings and letters. Never. Jesus or Paul going to a synagogue on Saturday was because that's when the Jews met. If they showed up on the first day, Sunday, no one or a few priests might be there, that's it. So them going on Saturday was not proof that Jesus approved of Saturday sabbath, but rather, an opportunity to preach the gospel to the Jews.
Yet the ones who walked with Jesus took collections on the first day of the week, Sunday. Don't you think they would have collected the money on the Sabbath, Saturday, if Jesus had stressed the Saturday Sabbath day? I don't even think that the Sunday Sabbath day has to be observed in that way as far as rest goes. The Sabbath day became more to many Christians than the gospel of Christ. God is not pleased with that.
Because Sabbath is rest, spiritually, which affects how we live in this world. That is not only for one day, as the SDAs and so many others insist have to be observed, but it is for all 7 days, all day. It is a spiritual rest. You can gather together for worship any day or days, but Sabbath rest with God is 24/7.
That is how God made it. All things are in Christ.
He sabbath is the 7th day to me and not sunday. Nero changed the sabbath to sunday because of the ressurection of Jesus.
I dont know if you understand the bible af all because Jesus was jewish. He observed all the jewish traditional things. His mom was from a coheen family. He ate according to kasrut. Kosjer food.
"I don't even think" -@@michaelalbertson7457
@@wendycarty6958 Actually it was Emperer Constantine, not Nero, who changed the Sabbath to Sunday, a pagan holiday for sun worshipers, to make it more acceptable to his empire. Roman Catholicism freely acknowledges this change and confirmed it as the right of their church to do so. Changed by man and justified by man - but not by God. When God commanded us to remember and keep holy the 7th day (4th commandment) as a memorial of Creation and a sign of our loyalty, He meant just that. It's at the heart of His Law and according to Scripture, His law is unchangeable.
Thank you Sir!
I appreciated your summary!
I am the way the truth and the life nobody comes to the father exept through me❤
Said the illiterate Jewish dude 2000 years ago (Allegedly... Being illiterate, he obviously was unable to write anything)
@@paulnickson8734
3 - 9 - 24
If you believe there is no GOD
Then why say
A ) Jesus was a Jew
B ) He was illiterate
C ) He lived 2 , 000 years ago
D ) He wasn't able to write
You sure you aren't a closet Christian
You sure LOVE to talk about
Jesus/ GOD a WHOLE lot
Why waste your time on your
HOBBY posting all the time ?
Incidentally, your office is amazing. Stain glass, wall shelves, etc. Nice.
Hey thanks!
Thanks for the breakdown, What are your views on Jewish people who believe that they are the chosen people !!!... BTW I'm aware some where in the old testament God made a promise to the Jewish . However did the Jewish folks miss out on John 14? scripture?
Most blessed is the man who believes in, trusts in and relies on The Lord and whose hope and confidence The Lord is.
Jeremiah 17:7 AMPC
I love God and Ilove my church, SDA we have the truth, read your Bible well brother.
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Yesterday SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I am proud to be a seventh day adventist..
Considering the state of a lot of churches I can understand, there are some good qualities to your church but the Ellen G White / Investigative Judgement thing.......wouldn't be able to get over that. Thank you for your comment.
@Jacqueline Dunn pride is not a Christian trait. I'm humble to be drawn by the FATHER unto the SON who is my grace and mercy. HE loses none the FATHER draws to him. This simple truth puts any kind of Investigative Judgment to rest. You have a false gospel different then the one taught, Gal. 1:8.
What are u proud of? I think what u mean is you are happy that you found a connection to the truth.
@@davidstylespro no truth in SDA. The preach the 4th and ignore the 6th to do satan's work. Since 1970 the SDA owned & GC run hospitals have been in the abortion business for the last 53 years. Butchering innocent children of YHWH in their Mother's wombs for profit aka $money$. On demand any trimester with a focus on poor minorities.
www.UA-cam.com/watch?v=0cyfcaKSrQc
But are you saved ???? If you trying to keep the commandments ot you are lost hellbound. Ot for jews not gentiles.
Salvation is only through to be found in Jesus Christ, His Blood, and grace through faith in God through Him and not through observing a day or good works.