Devon you are my favorite person but please turn your mic down a tad bit. To compensate for you being a little more charismatic and louder. On the side note you are the GOAT of mixing period in the DIY world to me. I went to LA film school. And my mixes are A1 cause of you
Hi I purchased the HMD Rosetta but haven’t received it yet this was on February 20 I seen an email but have not heard back from you yet please get back to me asap !!
I agree! Most artist don’t know what they want to hear but they certainly know what they don’t want to hear. That’s what they’ll speak loud on AFTER you begin the mix.
You know what's crazy?? I've realized that a good mix is really stamped by others who know music really well. Most regular consumers of music(your everyday fan who simply listens to music) aren't worried about the mix and mastering. It's our peers like us- audio engineers and producers, as well as song writers, and artists and some managers that really care. It's a thought that came to mind upon watching this. With that being said, a mix starts from the production phase with arrangement, and then the recording phase. These 2 phases I think make up a great faction of what we call a mix. A song can be sonically mixed well but if it has a wack arrangement, someone still say the mix is off, when in reality is the production that's off.
Consumer may not “care” about the mix and master per se but it will influence their choice on wether or not they will keep coming back to the track. Replay value is greatly influenced by mix and master
I learn engineering by watching you and Wayne wav etc. and that’s because back then I use to need to pay for studio time and I was young so my parents would NEVER going to get me money to go so I use to go to a community recording studio and barely go studio time so I just pay attention to the engineer in the studio. One day the engineer wasn’t there and I step up to the plate. Now I record, mix and master myself
Side note for the “mix like an artist” aspect. One thing I’ve seen often as a mix engineer is that most early on in their career that fall under that will also put whatever instrument they play at the front of the mix. There’s the saying that you can tell a song was mixed by a guitarist or a drummer for a reason. It’s always interesting since the way people mix varies so greatly
Now that I'm Mastering I only listened to music that sounds full in the midrange without being overcompressed. Those mids really give you a professional feel. And I like expensive things
This podcast is exactly what us music nerds needed. These are convos I can't have with any of my friends lol. Keep em coming! I've been on windows all my life, never got a chance to even try logic or pro tools. and no way imma spend mad money to buy a macbook lol
🔥 I started with fruity loops when it was just a demo couldn’t even save the tracks lol. Would never think that this is what it would turn into years later. But the reason why I started recording and mixing my own stuff was because it was hard to find someone who had the quality or went as hard as me.
What makes a good mix? Id say whatever that you don't wanna hear on a mix shouldn't be on that mix (muddy kicks, clashing frequencies, thin vocals etc.) Also im a fan of this podcast now🔥🔥🔥
The way yall underrate FL studio is crazy. There's no way you can here if I mixed on fl cause I barely ever use their stock plug-ins. And thats the main reason .
Honestly, art is just subjective. From the artist to the consumer. An artist could create something with a specific interpretation in mind, while the consumer could interpret the art completely differently, due their own subjective experience. Wherever there is common interpretation, exists art that is widely appreciated.
I think y’all need to throw a fruity loops compressor on LJ. It’s either the most DYNAMIC speaker i’ve ever heard or weird gain setting or something. Love the show 💯- it’s my driving listen every week. Keep it up!
19:10 did anyone go back and listen to “caught their eyes” that second verse he was on point!! You can hear the difference in HOV’s tone in different lines within the verse 😳 I never caught it. Must listen with headphones tho
When it comes to the avid subscription I def suggest paying the 199 for annual renewal cuz that 300 a yr is a dub. As far as what makes a great mix.... top priority is artist satisfactory from a service standpoint... from a creative/technical standpoint I'd say a combination of balance, atmosphere and consistency throughout the record especially when u have multiple artists on one track with drastically different vocals frequency ranges. Lastly translatability from one listening environment to the next. It just can't be overstated. Don't under-mind the importance of creativity and variation to keep the listener engaged.
A lot of gems on this podcast since day one. I just purchased the Rosetta EQ (order ID 22869). I've been wanting to try them templates but ain't going to cap y'all what's up with that 30% off discount though? 😅
My Macs normally last about 6 years. That’s more than an average laptop right? I buy refurbished but max performance loaded MacBooks. Just a recommendation if you think about Logic again 😉
You guys are really good! You educate and also entertain. Thank you so m💝ch help me Devon
Рік тому+1
Today all Daws are powerfull and it depends on how you are used to do things but above all the most perfect daw is the one you know haw to use it inside out. (I want to try youre new rozeta eq and i wonder it will me my go to eq?)
I'm a rapper, and an begginer engineer. I just wanna sound good. I want to have my own style, which I do lyricly, but mixing I'm have an idea, but until I've mastered the mix I can then work on a signature sound.
I'd really like to know how you guys feel about studio one. Why you have or haven't tried it, if it has draw backs compared to the bigger names u usually mention, etc
Mann they trippen lol. FL GOT SOME WICKED SH*T to the plug-in envelopes. Before you even put your sound into the mix to add effects. U can add effects way before 😂
I’ve been noticing that LJ’s voice is lower than the other two hosts over the last few episodes. Idk if it’s because he’s to far away or the mix is a bit off.
@@mookeymontana when I get my levels rights it's still more luck than skill. I have a got to get my gainstaging right. I watch tutorials, some day to have the music at -7.5, some say -15. I've heard that people say vocals should be -12 others -9 and one guy even said -6.
I hate Logic & FL Studio. I just spent the last week giving them a shot. I would use Protools over them all day every. Mixcraft, Studio One, Ableton, Digital Performer, Cubase, Bitwig, literally any DAW over Logic & FL Studio. As far as a good mix is concerned, the feeling is everything. The mix should match the emotional feel of the song. Industry mixing standards should not trump the feel of the song.
Grab the HMD ROSETTA EQ HERE helpmedevvon.com
Devon you are my favorite person but please turn your mic down a tad bit. To compensate for you being a little more charismatic and louder. On the side note you are the GOAT of mixing period in the DIY world to me. I went to LA film school. And my mixes are A1 cause of you
Hi I purchased the HMD Rosetta but haven’t received it yet this was on February 20 I seen an email but have not heard back from you yet please get back to me asap !!
I agree! Most artist don’t know what they want to hear but they certainly know what they don’t want to hear. That’s what they’ll speak loud on AFTER you begin the mix.
You know what's crazy?? I've realized that a good mix is really stamped by others who know music really well. Most regular consumers of music(your everyday fan who simply listens to music) aren't worried about the mix and mastering. It's our peers like us- audio engineers and producers, as well as song writers, and artists and some managers that really care. It's a thought that came to mind upon watching this.
With that being said, a mix starts from the production phase with arrangement, and then the recording phase. These 2 phases I think make up a great faction of what we call a mix. A song can be sonically mixed well but if it has a wack arrangement, someone still say the mix is off, when in reality is the production that's off.
If you fall in love with instruments and how they are supposed to sound I think you are halfway there to a good-sounding mix
They care they just don't know what they care about
@@DarkTrapStudio for real
Consumer may not “care” about the mix and master per se but it will influence their choice on wether or not they will keep coming back to the track. Replay value is greatly influenced by mix and master
@@ANTspiration Difference beetween Gucci and Dior
Speaking as someone that doesn’t like podcasts,
This podcast is FIRE.
Ahahaha that means a lot!!
A good mix is the one that makes you feel the song.
YES PLEASE!!! Make an episode of “ 1 song , 3 mix enginears” .
A great way show that enginears have their own sound too.
thats too much sauce lol
Mixing with a ref track is so crucial. I’m glad y’all made mention of it. Salute. Love the content.
19:54 🎯 perfectly put dev
Logic with the MacBook every 4 years was a HUGE eye opener for me. I never thought about it like that.
I learn engineering by watching you and Wayne wav etc. and that’s because back then I use to need to pay for studio time and I was young so my parents would NEVER going to get me money to go so I use to go to a community recording studio and barely go studio time so I just pay attention to the engineer in the studio. One day the engineer wasn’t there and I step up to the plate. Now I record, mix and master myself
Side note for the “mix like an artist” aspect. One thing I’ve seen often as a mix engineer is that most early on in their career that fall under that will also put whatever instrument they play at the front of the mix. There’s the saying that you can tell a song was mixed by a guitarist or a drummer for a reason. It’s always interesting since the way people mix varies so greatly
Now that I'm Mastering I only listened to music that sounds full in the midrange without being overcompressed. Those mids really give you a professional feel. And I like expensive things
For sure!! That midrange is a big difference maker
This podcast is exactly what us music nerds needed. These are convos I can't have with any of my friends lol. Keep em coming! I've been on windows all my life, never got a chance to even try logic or pro tools. and no way imma spend mad money to buy a macbook lol
I've been using Cakewalk, it gets no love lol. I have pro tools, but I prefer Cakewalk.
@@ericb-amuur9897 never tried that before but I've seen some use it
🔥 I started with fruity loops when it was just a demo couldn’t even save the tracks lol. Would never think that this is what it would turn into years later. But the reason why I started recording and mixing my own stuff was because it was hard to find someone who had the quality or went as hard as me.
I could listen to yall chop it up all day straight gems
For me what makes a good mix is clarity without being harsh and balance.
Devon your songs are so fire dam good. Bringing back the 90s great r&b
What makes a good mix? Id say whatever that you don't wanna hear on a mix shouldn't be on that mix (muddy kicks, clashing frequencies, thin vocals etc.)
Also im a fan of this podcast now🔥🔥🔥
My reference mixing songs are Dwele - Hold On, Musiq Soulchild - Buddy
The way yall underrate FL studio is crazy. There's no way you can here if I mixed on fl cause I barely ever use their stock plug-ins. And thats the main reason .
Honestly, art is just subjective. From the artist to the consumer. An artist could create something with a specific interpretation in mind, while the consumer could interpret the art completely differently, due their own subjective experience. Wherever there is common interpretation, exists art that is widely appreciated.
I think y’all need to throw a fruity loops compressor on LJ. It’s either the most DYNAMIC speaker i’ve ever heard or weird gain setting or something. Love the show 💯- it’s my driving listen every week. Keep it up!
"Lloyiso - Let Me Love You Now" GREAT MIX, VOCALS ARE INSANE 🔥
19:10 did anyone go back and listen to “caught their eyes” that second verse he was on point!! You can hear the difference in HOV’s tone in different lines within the verse 😳 I never caught it. Must listen with headphones tho
When it comes to the avid subscription I def suggest paying the 199 for annual renewal cuz that 300 a yr is a dub. As far as what makes a great mix.... top priority is artist satisfactory from a service standpoint... from a creative/technical standpoint I'd say a combination of balance, atmosphere and consistency throughout the record especially when u have multiple artists on one track with drastically different vocals frequency ranges. Lastly translatability from one listening environment to the next. It just can't be overstated. Don't under-mind the importance of creativity and variation to keep the listener engaged.
A lot of gems on this podcast since day one. I just purchased the Rosetta EQ (order ID 22869). I've been wanting to try them templates but ain't going to cap y'all what's up with that 30% off discount though? 😅
My Macs normally last about 6 years. That’s more than an average laptop right? I buy refurbished but max performance loaded MacBooks. Just a recommendation if you think about Logic again 😉
What I think makes a good mix is every element in the song has it one space in the mix and dynamics.
Pro tools for 12yrs now & still love it.
Wonder what ya'll think of those Jbls compared to the Kali lp8s
You guys are really good! You educate and also entertain. Thank you so m💝ch help me Devon
Today all Daws are powerfull and it depends on how you are used to do things but above all the most perfect daw is the one you know haw to use it inside out.
(I want to try youre new rozeta eq and i wonder it will me my go to eq?)
BLACKPINK - Icecream W/ Selena is also an option for low end referencing.
Genuine good podcast I’ve been watching all day and yoh guys are fairly informative but that’s of course been following you a long time
Nice stuff.... could you guys talk about microphones USB mics to be preciseeeee
I'm a rapper, and an begginer engineer. I just wanna sound good. I want to have my own style, which I do lyricly, but mixing I'm have an idea, but until I've mastered the mix I can then work on a signature sound.
Hey man, is it possible if you could make a tutorial on mixing vocals on LALALAI vocal removed instrumentals?
front n center 🫡
I never miss a video. Best music podcast out!!! #flgang
Appreciate it!!
Finally gave in and bought The God Particle. Give these guys a sponsorship already!
This was dope, definitely gave me a light bulb moment!
How does one mix pad/synth that it doesn’t sound muddy when compared to the other instruments in the mix?
I'd really like to know how you guys feel about studio one. Why you have or haven't tried it, if it has draw backs compared to the bigger names u usually mention, etc
Talk about 32 bit float *mics* for studios. I know RODE has the *NT1 5th Gen*
The Detroit Hip Hop sound is dirty....If the mix is too clean, it's not right. Love the Podcast.
Ableton Guy Here - Appreciate the content
So let’s say I am looking for a reference track, but I can’t find a track that resembles my track, what do I gotta do?
The Rosetta eq fye been using for bout two weeks now
I definitely do the upfront yearly subscription for Pro Tools. Thank God for the student discount as well 😂
Anyone remembering the episode, where one of them did these effects with his mouth? Reverse verb ect.? Wich was it?
I use that coco heart elton john & dua lipa as a reference all the time thats a banger
Any song on Teyana Taylor’s The album are great reference mixes😖‼️
Are logic and pro tools crackable? (I’m asking for a friend)
Ahh the podcast the world needed
CHOSEN BY BLXST! I thought I was the only oneeee!!!!
I want to be on an episode lol. I agree I learned logic first!
Doja Cat...Need To Know for referencing. DOPE MIX!!
Logic is the goat!!
Country music is my mix references or CCM.
A good mix has space, controlled frequencies and balance
Shoutout X rip legend🔥🙏🏾
@helpmedevvon where would you buy / download these reference songs in high quality & would they usually come with option to download wav?
“Why are we talking about death, this is a happy podcast” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
when you want to be thorough and make these wild analogies. Sometimes stuff happens
Apple snapped with logic but definitely pc has a leverage with allowing multiple softwares.
These podcasts are super dope!
I HAVE TO AGREE WITH LJ. THE 4:44 ALBUM DOES SOUND MORE LIKE AN OLDER MIXTAPE.
If it feels good it is good
I’m here holding it dine for all da 🅿️ro 🛠️s 🅿️layers.. Keep it 🅿️
Yo we need to have a timeline 😮
I’m 10min in trying to see what they think makes a good mix 😅
What makes a good recording engineer?
Can you guys make a discord, where is amateurs can post and listened to each other's work, give and get help?
We have one!!! Look in the bio of one of my tutorials
Mann they trippen lol. FL GOT SOME WICKED SH*T to the plug-in envelopes. Before you even put your sound into the mix to add effects. U can add effects way before 😂
fun fact guys...Noel "Gadget" Campbell mixed drakes albums not 40... and Jimmy Douglass mixed 444... not young guru lol
Wow we’re gonna bring this up on the next one!!
I’ve been noticing that LJ’s voice is lower than the other two hosts over the last few episodes. Idk if it’s because he’s to far away or the mix is a bit off.
This is an audio nerd comment like no other !!
Would love to hear yalls favorite headphones for mixing in one of your videos :)
You guys need someone to represent logic users and this pod is perfect!
That apple hardware last more than 4 years, Logic gang! 🔥
Great levels make a GOOD MIX which NO ONE ever talks about
I talk about it all the time, I suck at leveling
Vocals always sound too loud or too quiet.
@@ericb-amuur9897 you can literally have all the plug techniques in the world but if u ain’t leveling them right then u gone have a serious problem
@@mookeymontana when I get my levels rights it's still more luck than skill. I have a got to get my gainstaging right. I watch tutorials, some day to have the music at -7.5, some say -15. I've heard that people say vocals should be -12 others -9 and one guy even said -6.
that man was mad about them speakers lol
Can y’all please go check out tone Stith” can we talk “ we need you to unpack how to get a mix like that … pleaseeeee
This is dopeee, I'm a new fan
Sublab XL is Dope
First. I love this series🔥
Dope Podcast!
Speak up L. Jean need to hear those gems you dropping!
Redeye by Galimatias is my ultimate reference track
anything by Jaycen Joshua for the lows and loudness
🔥🔥
Thank u
PROOOO TOOOOLLLLLSSSS GANGGGGGGGG
A good mix has a clear intention, love or hate it. Cuz an artist can say it’s good but just not for them.
where do you buy your references from? itunes?
iTunes store
🔥🔥🔥
She gotta need me like I need the god particle
12:30 Mike Dean is a producer
Can we get a dark mode for Rosseta?
There is one but only some people have it 😎
Any chance you can get a reaper mixer
I hate Logic & FL Studio. I just spent the last week giving them a shot. I would use Protools over them all day every. Mixcraft, Studio One, Ableton, Digital Performer, Cubase, Bitwig, literally any DAW over Logic & FL Studio. As far as a good mix is concerned, the feeling is everything. The mix should match the emotional feel of the song. Industry mixing standards should not trump the feel of the song.
Leandro Hidalgo - Recording/Mixing Engineer - Essence.
Ableton you get it forever! XD
The best reference track
Viagra by itsokaytocry
I still use Sub Xero until this day