Should You Eq Compress First Or Compress Eq?

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  • Опубліковано 20 гру 2022
  • In this episode the guys discuss a heavily debated topic in audio. Should you eq before you compress or compress before you eq? Are you changing the nuance you would get from compression? Are you now only boosting the good? Lets find out.
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  • @HelpMeDevvon
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    • @FreshChanges
      @FreshChanges Рік тому

      I NEED HELP WITH THE ROSETTA EQ ITS NOT SHOWING UP IN MY DAW AND IVE DONE EVERYTHING....HELP!!!

  • @Micahryann
    @Micahryann Рік тому +29

    If this pod did 4 hour episodes, I’d still rewatch every single one as I do now. Thank you guys for making these. ❤️‍🔥

  • @antwon4518
    @antwon4518 Рік тому +6

    Y’all make me feel sane. I don’t know any other engineers or real producers IRL

  • @iamjordanpass
    @iamjordanpass Рік тому +9

    From what I’ve seen of professional recording engineers they’re compressing the vocal through hardware as it goes into the box and then applying EQ and then compression down the chain. So from what I’ve seen they’re compressing the vocal first, lightly to control those peaks and it’s usually a transparent compressor, then EQ and then tonal compression

  • @RobinZV1
    @RobinZV1 Рік тому +2

    found your podcast this weekend and i’m digging every episode i’m seeing. y’all got some hot takes on some things where you admit you don’t know much, and it’s nice to see humility amongst fellow audio nerds.
    on this topic, it’s simple. ask yourself what you want to highlight-both methods compliment each other so much that the question just cancels itself out.

  • @ChaceBonanno
    @ChaceBonanno Рік тому +18

    This is been my new favorite podcast. I listen to every episode and always wish they were longer. Looking forward to seeing y’all really take off. The right guests could take this to the next level.

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  Рік тому +4

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    • @TheUpperClassMen
      @TheUpperClassMen Рік тому

      Don't make longer episodes. Short and sweet will push yall further in a shorter period of time. This shit is perfect to me.

  • @HeavenWilliams
    @HeavenWilliams Рік тому +14

    THESE ARE NOT LONG ENOUGH AT ALL.. AT LEAST AN HOUR WOULD SUFFICE

  • @CScriptMusic
    @CScriptMusic Рік тому

    This is easily becoming my favorite pod!

  • @victoranthonywalker
    @victoranthonywalker Рік тому +1

    Another great one from the guys I love this channel

  • @gthcstudios
    @gthcstudios Рік тому +3

    As rule of thumb I'd say: Substractiv EQing mostly before Compression and Additive EQing mostly after Compression. Except of when you actually wan't certain Frequencies to trigger the Comp earlier. Then you might actually wan't to raise these Frequencies before the Compression for a good Reason. But it also depends on the Type of Compression you wan't to achive (Upward/Downward Compression)

  • @phillipypakasonofthelight3757
    @phillipypakasonofthelight3757 Рік тому +2

    I definitely EQ first so I can get rid of it all those problems and I actually learned that from dervon, and it just makes sense

  • @triptheworthy1son431
    @triptheworthy1son431 Рік тому +4

    1 of yall need to try akai mpc studio 2
    I REALLY wanna hear your opinions on it I highkey love it

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    Mannnn!!!! I Love this podcast as a fellow nerd Thank you for guys!!!

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    @juniorkafi731 Рік тому

    hey man i really like your podcast keep doing the good work!

  • @musicproductiontips3121
    @musicproductiontips3121 Рік тому +2

    I personally use corrective EQ 1st
    Then compress
    Then add EQ for color.
    My personal preference.

  • @sonpmusic7317
    @sonpmusic7317 Рік тому +1

    If it's Wednesday you know it's #MyAudionerds day.. Always looking forward for your episodes from Kenya.

  • @hibobbywoody
    @hibobbywoody Рік тому +2

    i'm glad we giving virtual dj some respect!!

  • @fondusportfolio
    @fondusportfolio Рік тому

    Highly enjoyed this. Funny and educational

  • @raysewell7279
    @raysewell7279 Рік тому

    You guys gonna get me so fired. I’m hooked!!!

  • @waddupnvck
    @waddupnvck Рік тому +2

    I get so many gems from yall

  • @KennyCalypso
    @KennyCalypso 5 місяців тому

    yall should do a topic about marketing your music for people that have trouble with getting their music to new listeners

  • @noahb136
    @noahb136 Рік тому

    Use Logic Pro X BPM counter with Nectar 2 pitch correct “key finder” is the A1 find for setup

  • @ChaceBonanno
    @ChaceBonanno Рік тому +3

    Serato’s on point with key and BPM. Like 99% of the time it’s got it. Serato Sample is a great plugin.

  • @ShotByTWade
    @ShotByTWade Рік тому

    I MBC, then use Manny Triple D, then compress/eq or eq/compress depending on the beat or end result i want

  • @midlifeadventures3138
    @midlifeadventures3138 Рік тому

    Analog will always be at the front end of recordings. A 1073 plug-in doesn’t even sound remotely close to hardware yet..
    Music recorded with analog moves me every time I hear it. Digital recordings move me for a couple days..it’s a feeling. I use both because of convience and price.

  • @Tai-Dye
    @Tai-Dye Рік тому +2

    Yooo Sage Audio is so underrated, super happy they got mentioned

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  Рік тому +2

      Sage audio is goateddddd

    • @doubleahitmusic
      @doubleahitmusic Рік тому +1

      Sage Audio is amazing! I discovered Futuristic from their audio examples which is dope!

  • @croco_beats
    @croco_beats Рік тому

    So true! I also got vdj just to check tempo and key..😂😂😅..now i use serato sample.

  • @GodsOrdainedVisionary
    @GodsOrdainedVisionary Рік тому +1

    let the song tell you what to do, but personally I deductive EQ first before I compress. That way I get rid of harsh sounds first and the signal going into the compressor is clearer and cleaner.

  • @skrypture1162
    @skrypture1162 Рік тому +8

    You work outta protools bro😂 💀

  • @reggieraxx3416
    @reggieraxx3416 Рік тому

    I’ve never heard you guys mention any antelope audio 🤔 they’re pretty good

  • @HollerAtcherBoi
    @HollerAtcherBoi Рік тому

    Roll off/cut lows before compression, any other EQ after.

  • @officiallostcause7300
    @officiallostcause7300 Рік тому

    Hilarious watching this Episode with my Novation LaunchKey49 sitting in front of me!!!

  • @marksmith4784
    @marksmith4784 Рік тому +1

    The eq before compressor is so the compressor will press that frequently more than others

  • @gabilaofficial
    @gabilaofficial Рік тому +1

    "I had a friend of mine who was an edm DJ , imember..." 😹My man Devvon speaking a language of the Gods

  • @johnowotade2780
    @johnowotade2780 Рік тому

    That virtual dj convo was so important and triggering 🤣🤣

  •  Рік тому +1

    I do subtractive eq first before I compress

  • @lildakaking
    @lildakaking Рік тому

    Im a UAD plugin user and I must say, they plugins are priced high, but on the other hand. They make up for it because they plug-ins are almost spot on with the sound of the hardware it recreates.

    • @yggbeats5759
      @yggbeats5759 Рік тому

      Hey im thinking about buying UAD stuff, but im usualy using waves plugins. Main reason is for my vocal chain but im not sure yet i heard that UAD because their preamp 1073 is so good. Is it worth it?

  • @xpressmuzik1379
    @xpressmuzik1379 Рік тому

    Keep it up bro love the diversity

  • @claffmatic
    @claffmatic Рік тому +1

    Native instruments has the best controller/software package imo

  • @magnetikphrequence
    @magnetikphrequence Рік тому +2

    Bro I would love to be on this show, I have a podcast myself and I would love to collaborate with you guys! Much respect ✊🏾

  • @Dluv882
    @Dluv882 Рік тому +1

    I EQ before I compress because the compressor doesn’t have to work as hard changes the whole feel of the voice🔥✊🏾

  • @lalystar4230
    @lalystar4230 Рік тому

    Sooo... basically, you EQ (get the sound basically correct and pull out the frequencies that'll hurt when too loud), then compress to saturate and then go back to your EQ to finetune it?
    God, you guys are all over the place in your podcasts, i generally really dislike (chaotic) podcasts like these, but you guys somehow make it work for me and keep me listening right up to the end xD

  • @evngeo8126
    @evngeo8126 Рік тому +8

    We need a proper Logic representative on here!

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  Рік тому +1

      Lmaoooo we give y’all so much flowers tho 😭

    • @evngeo8126
      @evngeo8126 Рік тому +1

      @@HelpMeDevvon That’s a fact! I just would love to see the dynamic of throwing someone new in the convo from a different DAW and seeing the debates that would come from it 😂

  • @iamshashu
    @iamshashu Рік тому

    serato's grid is no joke lol, I didn't know how it actually works for the longest time. We can add up to 99 grid markers per song. and its smart too. It just takes a few tries to get how it works

  • @ZynDromeBeats
    @ZynDromeBeats Рік тому

    Hot take . Started out using Virtual DJ, switched to Serato and used it for two years, an then switched back to Virtual DJ. Sure, Serato Stems is cool but VDJ's UI is better . Oh and btw... #ProToolsGang

  • @jhevon
    @jhevon Рік тому

    YOOO VirtualDJ lives on my computer just for the BPM finder too 😂

  • @prodyouleeseas
    @prodyouleeseas Рік тому

    Ljean threw Courtney the mean alley oop lmfao

  • @TheUpperClassMen
    @TheUpperClassMen Рік тому

    The juice comparison part got me weakkkkkkkkkkkk

  • @aceincarnate
    @aceincarnate Рік тому +2

    Can ya do a episode talking about the state of underground producers/engineers

  • @tymoni3606
    @tymoni3606 Рік тому +2

    Tunebat is my go to till this day. I use it to find the key of the song. I’m surprised it’s not underground as I thought it was 😭

    • @Tai-Dye
      @Tai-Dye Рік тому

      I still use tunebat as well haha simple and quick, bpm is occaaasionaly wrong, but key is always on point, and if your DAW has 'tap to tempo' function you're set

    • @BigMufuckinRigues
      @BigMufuckinRigues 6 місяців тому

      @@Tai-Dyeyo I have a question about tunebat if you don’t mind?

  • @waves7300
    @waves7300 Рік тому

    FL ❤

  • @jeowhi
    @jeowhi Рік тому

    courtney back let’s goo!

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  • @londalecarter3482
    @londalecarter3482 Рік тому

    On my moma VDJ been holding it down!!

  • @lilian896
    @lilian896 Рік тому

    Episode of Dolby Atmos in Logic with Apple rendering. ☘Thanks.

  • @JonnyYayoBeatz
    @JonnyYayoBeatz Рік тому

    Hey I rent to Devvon Don't trip I got your back!!! LMAO

  • @kyleluib7310
    @kyleluib7310 Рік тому

    Is this on Spotify

  • @skrypture1162
    @skrypture1162 Рік тому +4

    Devvon look like Cuba Gooding JR😂

  • @kdg6963
    @kdg6963 Рік тому

    i use traktor to find key and bpm

  • @andrewmalekmusic
    @andrewmalekmusic Рік тому

    Akai DAW is awesome, as long as you send it Pro Tools later on 😎

  • @gkakaj
    @gkakaj Рік тому

    FL TO THE World

  • @ChadyBeats
    @ChadyBeats Рік тому +1

    Straight out of Trinidad 🇹🇹

  • @Jexzi
    @Jexzi Рік тому +1

    23:42 “Have you ever touched a neve 1073 by any chance? The FAMOUS pre-amp!” He said “I prolly like dragged my hand over it.”💀

    • @wavydavybeats
      @wavydavybeats Рік тому

      Give him a pass lol I think he’s just a music producer and he’s young

  • @rudi876
    @rudi876 Рік тому

    @1:18 FLzeimer - incredible

  • @noelgallard1128
    @noelgallard1128 6 місяців тому

    EQ matters more on the way in to your Daw then it does in your Daw. That’s what people forget we EQd on the way in.

  • @andrewmalekmusic
    @andrewmalekmusic Рік тому

    "VirtualDJ is something you can try very easily.
    But if you play in club, its also amazing...
    I was super impressed, its very cool"
    David Guetta
    Multi-platinum DJ & Producer

  • @80sBabyPB
    @80sBabyPB Рік тому

    MOTU is the goat #ijs they gave you us the first midi 8x8 interface

  • @noahb136
    @noahb136 Рік тому

    But on the real “MixedInKey” is the A1 move now

  • @deemac1
    @deemac1 Рік тому

    I find myself eq after comp a lot of the times

  • @bobbykeys1666
    @bobbykeys1666 Рік тому

    Buddy was checkin his armpits at 20:08? 😂

  • @caryaton
    @caryaton Рік тому +1

    UAD is great

  • @djpro8258
    @djpro8258 Рік тому

    Devvon U Said U Would Never Get Rid of the CLA 76
    have u Tried the AVID ( PRO-COMP) ???

  • @MrandMrsPodcasting
    @MrandMrsPodcasting Рік тому +1

    I can’t lie I EQ first on individual channels but on my master I’m compressing first 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @chemdrum
    @chemdrum Рік тому +2

    Back in school, somehow I was taught to compress before EQing because "the compressor can change the tonality of your audio due to saturation and stuff". But I've been EQing before applying compression post school days so....I guess it really doesn't matter lol. Yoooo, one topic you guys should talk about that's been grindin my gears is the concept of pre fader metering and post fader metering. It's been said that pre fader metering is for recording to check the gain stage of all inputs and post fader metering is for mixing. Personally, I don't see the purpose of post fader metering at all-like, why would I want my meters to follow my fader? But idk lol

    • @HelpMeDevvon
      @HelpMeDevvon  Рік тому +3

      Right I was taught that too!!! But I’ve changed my ways and I just use my ears

  • @flrtzayahmusic7815
    @flrtzayahmusic7815 Рік тому

    PRO TOOLS PROPHET

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

    You EQ First
    Compression is for final Dynamic Control

  • @djbigskullygamingandmusic
    @djbigskullygamingandmusic Рік тому

    I need to join the podcast team I'm a studio one master

  • @sehbeats4572
    @sehbeats4572 Рік тому +1

    Subtractive eq > Compression > additive eq

  • @kingyasofficial
    @kingyasofficial Рік тому

    if you print your compressor then you are compressing first

  • @bydez4260
    @bydez4260 Рік тому

    Protools where y’all at!!!💪

  • @TheyCallMeCeejay
    @TheyCallMeCeejay Рік тому +2

    I dunno where he heard Canadians dont like Minute Maid. Dont lie on us 😂😂

  • @blackheartworldtv
    @blackheartworldtv Рік тому

    “he’s rich”
    “no i said it was too high of a price”
    “oh I’m sorry, you’re a broke boy” 😂😂

  • @Insomnia_tic
    @Insomnia_tic Рік тому

    13:45

  • @ANTspiration
    @ANTspiration Рік тому

    LJ really not an engineer 😂 we still love you tho brobro

  • @shivakittusamy5560
    @shivakittusamy5560 Рік тому

    We need a guest host that is a logic user 😂

    • @tjgeorges6331
      @tjgeorges6331 Рік тому +1

      bro i’m downnnn wtw 😭😭😭 ik a fair amt about engineering and im lowkey nasty w logic

    • @shivakittusamy5560
      @shivakittusamy5560 Рік тому +1

      @@tjgeorges6331 Hey I don’t own the podcast but lowkey would be dope to have that logic representation one way or the other 😂

  • @leonklaastephotography
    @leonklaastephotography Рік тому

    Camera Quality Dropped, ya'll good?

  • @mikylemusic
    @mikylemusic Рік тому

    13:40

  • @chopthelopsta901
    @chopthelopsta901 Рік тому

    Maschine doesnt come wih a visual eq just wanna throw that out there.

  • @mikethelycangaming2346
    @mikethelycangaming2346 Рік тому

    Chris Rock you mean Chris Tucker Cuh!

  • @caryaton
    @caryaton Рік тому

    21:01 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @simplyputviewstv5655
    @simplyputviewstv5655 Рік тому

    Don't you dare touch Stevie bro😂

  • @mariano112222
    @mariano112222 Рік тому

    😂😂😂

  • @kdg6963
    @kdg6963 Рік тому

    i'm a producer, IN PRO TOOLS

  • @johnisrael5183
    @johnisrael5183 Рік тому

    Eqing First then Compression
    Also sounds more music
    The track attenuates better

  • @shawnwaldron1018
    @shawnwaldron1018 Рік тому

    Chris Tucker you said Chris Rock it was Tucker brudda

  • @arielellunatiko2761
    @arielellunatiko2761 Рік тому

    i dont rent i own it period perpetual license

  • @LexOfNP
    @LexOfNP Рік тому

    Y’all tripping about Fruitopia

  • @thecultureisours8353
    @thecultureisours8353 Рік тому

    Turkey hill >

  • @djpro8258
    @djpro8258 Рік тому

    THIS IS WEIRD cause i Mainly Compress before i EQ in the (DAW) Then Again I EQ Before I Compress In The Avalon 737 Sp
    Cause I Eq The 10K Freq @ Around
    -2 DB cause i hate that freq coming off of the WA 8000 And
    The Sony C800 that Crispiness Bothers me to the core ( Eventually i put it back when i Air the Vox Back up 🤷‍♂️)

  • @malikisrael9355
    @malikisrael9355 Рік тому +1

    Jay a is a biter. He could never be the goat. Nas is way better and more skilled.