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  • @theGuardian
    @theGuardian  4 роки тому +56

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    • @BookersLawn
      @BookersLawn 3 роки тому +1

      Please provide subtitles/captions also.
      People from other continents/subcontinent are also watching this.
      Thank you!

  • @DoubtX
    @DoubtX 5 років тому +1553

    Surprising change of pace for The Guardian. If they want to make it in the age of new media, they need more of this.

    • @kelvinbennis2989
      @kelvinbennis2989 5 років тому +3

      Doubt Yes that is what the Guardian is thinking we’re going to try and get some of that Internet market that actually is completely different to the market we are aiming out in their newspaper except we are now stuck right in the middle talking absolute clap trap

    • @slashermcgirk1274
      @slashermcgirk1274 5 років тому +5

      When the war starts I for one will remember which side they were actually on. It wasn't mine.

    • @MattCasters
      @MattCasters 5 років тому +16

      She's still playing identify politics... "as a women, as a millennial..." It poisons the well so to speak.

    • @DoubtX
      @DoubtX 5 років тому +3

      @uberkogle No the Guardian hasn't been fair. The axioms that form the foundation of their journalistic pursuit are not aligned with the public's own interests. These axioms guide their choices of what to cover, and how to frame the issues, and that's why they fail. They are a publication of half-truths, and unquestioned assumptions.

    • @shockwave2291
      @shockwave2291 5 років тому +2

      uberkogle Independent, yes. Fair, I do not think so. Following The Guardian's coverage of my country's ongoing election, I can say with certainty they are inherently left-wing on many issues without giving a 'fair' coverage of the other side.

  • @ramacass108
    @ramacass108 5 років тому +5291

    Not a hit piece; a fair look. I'm legit shocked. Congrats. There may be hope yet.

    • @alosoranko3848
      @alosoranko3848 5 років тому +17

      @@reptilespit4433
      You know those type of video with weird titles just have normal conversations right....

    • @mr7wi
      @mr7wi 5 років тому +8

      It’s click bate at its worst

    • @subsonic9854
      @subsonic9854 5 років тому +67

      Its not a hit piece (yet) but is already skewed. This intro played sound bites taken out of context and already set him up as being a bit off the deep end. Any honest jbp 101 must include mention of the dishonest smears he has suffered as well because that is representative of what many who agree with him feel they must deal with.
      Perhaps the host thinks she is being fair, but if so, shes already demonstrating the limits of her bubble.

    • @kelvinbennis2989
      @kelvinbennis2989 5 років тому +8

      SuB SONiC You’re totally right you know what I don’t get the comments you’re replying to has got 350 thumbs up honestly I wonder how that happened basically I think they did it themselves

    • @subsonic9854
      @subsonic9854 5 років тому +8

      @@kelvinbennis2989 its weird right? Ah well, its just the intro so far. Who knows? Maybe she will be more open minded as the show goes on and she learns more about him. In fairness to her, she didnt connect him to the new zealand shooter lol

  • @PonzooonTheGreat
    @PonzooonTheGreat 5 років тому +2865

    Looks like there are still competent journos at the guardian.

    • @rainer_uncrowned
      @rainer_uncrowned 5 років тому +50

      Yea because they’re in line with your politics. If they deviated then you’ll be triggered.

    • @danielm9812
      @danielm9812 5 років тому +29

      @@rainer_uncrowned Well I am triggered pretty easily when it comes to the topic of gender, political correctness, free speech, ...etc. Online you often only get to see the extrem views of a minority of people. I still believe that the largest amount of people are quite moderat in what they believe or don't even care.

    • @DancinJim
      @DancinJim 5 років тому +59

      @@rainer_uncrowned Quite the opposite - many Guardian journalists, because of THEIR politics, tend to oppose basic common-sense, or ideas which had previously even been accepted as true or correct by Liberals. Therefore when one is discovered who does not employ this political tact, it is surprising. In a pleasant way of course.

    • @mr7wi
      @mr7wi 5 років тому +4

      This is click bate at its worst

    • @rajeshsweet194
      @rajeshsweet194 5 років тому +6

      Its just a hoax to get few views riding the coattails of peterson.

  • @h3biisuto
    @h3biisuto 5 років тому +2072

    Jordan Peterson has no problem with gender pronouns (as you claim). His problem is with compelled speech.

    • @nelsonth
      @nelsonth 5 років тому +36

      So being asked to refer to a transperson by their preferred pronoun, is that compelled speech?

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 5 років тому +510

      Nelson Thangjam being forced to do so by law is.

    • @AtheistEve
      @AtheistEve 5 років тому +13

      Man of the north The law forces people to do and not do stuff all the time. Jordan Peterson and everyone else in his country cannot discriminate against LGB people and now that anti-discrimination law includes the Ts. Including trans people into a protected class wrt hate speech and equality was overdue.

    • @Anon-tr2lq
      @Anon-tr2lq 5 років тому +270

      ​@@AtheistEve The government forcing people to not be criminals is one thing.
      The government forcing people to speak in a certain way is another. That breeds censorship and corruption.
      It's not so much about this specific law that makes people respect eachother - it's about the core idea of the authority forcing the population to speak the way they want.
      It's all nice and fun right now, until it becomes normal and the government starts censoring and forcing other speech. Stalin did it, Hitler did it, other totalitarian regimes did it. It always starts slowly, until people accept it. Then they stop caring about the minorities, about the citizens, and begin abusing their power.

    • @AtheistEve
      @AtheistEve 5 років тому +19

      LabMadeMonk It’s along the lines of not being free from consequences. People can call black people the “n” word, or gay people the “f” word but they will be held accountable for it - either informally by society enforcing it with peer group pressure, or formally by the authorities in the case of legal transactions. You and Peterson can misname someone mistakenly or vindictively in the comfort of your own homes but avoid doing it vindictively to someone on Twitter or in a job interview.

  • @boomredimprint8411
    @boomredimprint8411 5 років тому +1228

    "Truth always trumps political correctness..." Words to live by.

    • @andrewstevens2063
      @andrewstevens2063 5 років тому +25

      Too bad the Guardian doesnt

    • @zacharryklugman3151
      @zacharryklugman3151 5 років тому +8

      Immature words to live by...

    • @kofola9145
      @kofola9145 5 років тому

      Eventually. Sometimes it takes 12 years. Sometimes 69 years.

    • @altertopias
      @altertopias 4 роки тому +7

      Yeah, but don't forget she says truth + respect + listening

    • @xvegancommunistx1848
      @xvegancommunistx1848 4 роки тому +5

      The truth IS political correctness

  • @thecsslife
    @thecsslife 5 років тому +858

    So far the best mainstream piece on JP. Very suprised to say I'm impressed with The Guardian.

    • @milowmilo
      @milowmilo 5 років тому +20

      @Kurt Barryman This journalist just gave you an example of how to engange in discussions maturely. Yet you decided to do the exact opposite. I'm baffled by your lack of willingness to adapt. If you want to be taken seriously, stop acting like that. You're not a prime representetive of JPs ideology and I am by far not a fan of either JP or the Guardian.

    • @harzier88
      @harzier88 5 років тому

      @@milowmilo Youre saying JP advocates bodyslaming reporters? Lmao

  • @joshrijvers
    @joshrijvers 5 років тому +826

    I gave up reading the guardian a couple of years ago due to the endless stream of hitpieces. This however was very fairly done proper journalism. Congrats and thank you!

    • @asparrow9876
      @asparrow9876 5 років тому +22

      Standards sure have dropped haven't they? Decent journalism now deserves praise instead of being an everytime thing.
      Remember when journalists use to actually feel shame when they got something wrong? Pepperridge farm sure remembers.

    • @demukazz
      @demukazz 5 років тому +1

      Poor pleb, that's how they (thinking pattern forming machines aka msn media) works. That's mind control and you among many others are the prey.

    • @energyben
      @energyben 5 років тому +2

      that's exactly why i stopped reading the Guardian last year as well!

    • @straylight2378
      @straylight2378 5 років тому +6

      Guardian have been losing money hand over fist for several years now. Maybe someone in the editorial team has woken up & realised get woke go broke applies to newspapers as well.

  • @connorgray2896
    @connorgray2896 5 років тому +1272

    This really shocked me, fair and balanced! Great job, hope it continues this way!

    • @pandour
      @pandour 5 років тому +13

      I fully agree with this comment, specially on "hope it continues this way!"

    • @Rastamouse619
      @Rastamouse619 5 років тому +7

      Not quite... listen to the way they edited what the Ed Sheeran lookalike was about to say at 3:32: "I'd very happily vote for *both* Jeremy Corbyn..." (end footage).

    • @abstractnonsense3253
      @abstractnonsense3253 5 років тому +4

      I think it will eventually degenerate into regressive nonsense, but I'm willing to listen

    • @abstractnonsense3253
      @abstractnonsense3253 5 років тому +9

      @@Rastamouse619 Baby steps. ;) We're talking about the Guardian here. They cannot become reasonable all of a sudden. It would be too much for them. Baby steps.

    • @OreoSammich
      @OreoSammich 5 років тому

      Where was the fair criticism?

  • @blackfrancis55
    @blackfrancis55 5 років тому +771

    Of course she is surprised by how many women are there. The media keeps banging on about his core audience being young males....just as she did previously in the video.

    • @Dvssonance
      @Dvssonance 5 років тому +19

      It's not just the media, he says it too. It's weird especially since I watch and revere him too

    • @HELL0NESSA
      @HELL0NESSA 5 років тому +11

      He's trash and many women participate in misogyny. It's not surprising that white women make up a part of his audience.

    • @joshs8704
      @joshs8704 5 років тому +47

      @@HELL0NESSA do you think that appeals specifically to a white audience?

    • @50centpb7
      @50centpb7 5 років тому +5

      His audience is still like 90% male tho.

    • @taurusteelpan
      @taurusteelpan 5 років тому +24

      @@50centpb7 and that's problematic, why?

  • @12345shipreck
    @12345shipreck 5 років тому +648

    the guardian making something actually interesting that isn't just a smear campaign
    im shook

    • @shadowstrike211
      @shadowstrike211 5 років тому

      Shook

    • @12345shipreck
      @12345shipreck 5 років тому +6

      @P. C. If that's how you see it then they are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Give credit when it is due.

    • @bonnierobinson8684
      @bonnierobinson8684 3 роки тому

      Yet it takes a female reporter?

  • @duskplains1235
    @duskplains1235 5 років тому +763

    Looks like a competent journalist, rare to see these days.

    • @hamadfaheem4195
      @hamadfaheem4195 5 років тому +4

      Should see Mehdi Hassan

    • @lebario1765
      @lebario1765 5 років тому

      TheTimbalanders Excuse me sir, most non-muslims are white, they don’t care about that here.

    • @Voeris1
      @Voeris1 5 років тому

      He's still a charlatan...

    • @seanezeh2290
      @seanezeh2290 5 років тому +3

      @@lebario1765 Most Non-Muslims are Northeast Asian actually......

    • @seanezeh2290
      @seanezeh2290 5 років тому

      @@vato2030 No, Northeast actually. And Indonesia's in the Southeast and it's the largest Muslim nation in the world, so.....

  • @Maveriks1010
    @Maveriks1010 5 років тому +797

    Because men are sick of seeing masculinity pathologised.

    • @BankruptGreek
      @BankruptGreek 5 років тому +13

      I am a guy and I think the opposite, don't generalise

    • @bluemeat8299
      @bluemeat8299 5 років тому +13

      @blub blub obvious bait is obvious

    • @dangeles95
      @dangeles95 5 років тому +40

      blub blub and most people standing up to those rapists, and other criminals are other men.

    • @ReasonAboveEverything
      @ReasonAboveEverything 5 років тому +23

      blub blub Yes, and most life bettering inventions and arts are made by man.

    • @katherinesavarese6009
      @katherinesavarese6009 5 років тому +3

      blub blub shhhhhh its Coddling Time for the men right now..... dont interrupt

  • @alkazaryyy
    @alkazaryyy 5 років тому +1015

    you should interview Peterson himself!

    • @RFSA180
      @RFSA180 5 років тому +56

      He's too polite and rational for The Guardian of today

    • @nathanshlap
      @nathanshlap 5 років тому +27

      @@RFSA180 Why should you make blanket statements about a publication instead of judging the reporter by her own merit?

    • @shanewilliams5150
      @shanewilliams5150 5 років тому +2

      Why ?so his cult members can attack

    • @lebruglebrug
      @lebruglebrug 5 років тому +6

      He was dominated by Zizek and is a Marxist now.

    • @LedZedd
      @LedZedd 5 років тому +4

      @Black Knight Fool How so?

  • @emeliagomes113
    @emeliagomes113 5 років тому +486

    The guy with the tattoos talking about JP was so well-thought and respectful, congrats to him!

    • @spearmintflavoured1546
      @spearmintflavoured1546 5 років тому +2

      Emelia Gomes why wouldn’t he be?

    • @____----____
      @____----____ 5 років тому +17

      @@spearmintflavoured1546
      She is not surprised for him being well-thought and respectful. She is just stating a fact. And the way she states the facts is by referring to him as 'the guy with the tattoos'.

    • @AlexanderWoolnough1
      @AlexanderWoolnough1 5 років тому +3

      @Black Knight Fool no, homosexuality is falling in love and /or having sex with a man whereas 21st C masculinity is about broadening the definition of what being a man is.

    • @lucianofreire1848
      @lucianofreire1848 5 років тому +3

      And he's daaaaammmmmn hot !!!

    • @Raven-lb1qz
      @Raven-lb1qz 5 років тому +1

      He’s so hot

  • @BrightBlackBanana
    @BrightBlackBanana 5 років тому +438

    Iman is spot on with her attitude about political correctness.

    • @bear_square543
      @bear_square543 5 років тому +21

      Theoretically, I agree, BUT the notion that there is one truth and that is what we should strive to uncover in our debates and dialogues, is, depending on what you are talking about, often false and things are usually much more complex. For instance, there is no 'truth' to what 'masculinity' really is (or 'femininity' for that matter). Ideals and norms of masculinity are different across the world and from person to person - they are socially constructed and highly variable 'truths' . A person who simply asserts that 'men are/should x', or 'women are/should x' while thinking they are brave to speak the 'truth' and not bow to the alter of PCness, is probably kidding themselves.

    • @BrightBlackBanana
      @BrightBlackBanana 5 років тому

      @@bear_square543 ?

    • @BrightBlackBanana
      @BrightBlackBanana 5 років тому +2

      @@bear_square543 I agree with you, and I think she would too. Did you watch the whole video?

    • @paulies5407
      @paulies5407 5 років тому +21

      @@bear_square543 Masculinity and femininity aren't merely social constructs. A person's interests and behaviour can change dramatically depending on how much testosterone or oestrogen your body produces. Merely declaring that truth is subjective doesn't change the basic facts of biology I'm afraid.

    • @willmunny9279
      @willmunny9279 5 років тому +28

      @@evan2173 But then of course the social construct argument gets stretched way beyond reason and is frequently used as a way to explain behaviour. Why are young men more aggressive and more inclined to physical confrontation than young women? "Because it's the way they have been socialised. They are following masculine norms they have learnt from their parents and television and media". That's a very narrow viewpoint. Consider also that aggression is of course the number one trait that academics in gender studies associate with the masculinity construct (whatever that is meant to be). The irony is that men are socialised to be less aggressive, not more.
      Just as a final point I have to ask -why is it necessary to be smug and patronising at the end? All you have done is regurgitate the viewpoint of scholars representing 1 or 2 disciplines that see the world and everything in it as solely determined by gender discourses. Why not just be courteous.

  • @arbertlin4236
    @arbertlin4236 5 років тому +1336

    I can't believe I'm actually giving a thumbs up to a video by the guardian

    • @ivans1308
      @ivans1308 5 років тому +7

      You cant believe you are giving like to top three media in the world, two others being the washington post and Der spiegel?

    • @arbertlin4236
      @arbertlin4236 5 років тому +30

      @@ivans1308 exactly, I generally don't like corporate youtube accounts, especially from the media and sites like salon, the guardian, the independent, buzzfeed, the wsj, etc irritate me even more that fox, the cnn and msnbc

    • @arbertlin4236
      @arbertlin4236 5 років тому +3

      @@ivans1308 unless that was a joke, in which case sorry for being slow 😅

    • @drchtct
      @drchtct 5 років тому +14

      @@ivans1308 that's a very leftist thing to say

    • @IvanTre
      @IvanTre 5 років тому

      Me neither.

  • @CantThinkofaCoolOne
    @CantThinkofaCoolOne 5 років тому +1044

    Get a guy to do a modern femininity series.

    • @KAIZORIANEMPIRE
      @KAIZORIANEMPIRE 5 років тому +104

      not that i disliked this viddeo but that won't happen. Men are seen as the enemy lol so no way mainstream media would allow straight man to do one on femininity lol

    • @CantThinkofaCoolOne
      @CantThinkofaCoolOne 5 років тому +81

      @Juliana Silva I was just being facetious Juliana. I didn't want to add to the daftness of the world with my silly comment, but I couldn't help myself this time. I have zero problems with a lady leading this series, though couldn't help but think what the comments would be on a male led show about femininity.
      The whole "pale, male, and stale," thing does start to take affect after a while.

    • @SeyedSadeghAtaii
      @SeyedSadeghAtaii 5 років тому +49

      @@CantThinkofaCoolOne men have been reporting on and shaping attitudes towards female issues for a long time now, where you been?

    • @TeknoSquirrel
      @TeknoSquirrel 5 років тому +9

      I'm sure you'd have something just as stupid and redundant to say if the journalist was male.

    • @willmunny9279
      @willmunny9279 5 років тому +35

      @ quewn tenerif 10/10 for coming across as genocidal. Bravo.

  • @nevenmusic3024
    @nevenmusic3024 5 років тому +518

    Iman Amrani is honestly my new hero. Exactly what journalism should be about!

    • @lockandloadlikehell
      @lockandloadlikehell 5 років тому +21

      Those are some low standards for a hero.

    • @just83542
      @just83542 5 років тому +7

      @@lockandloadlikehell it's been pretty dire for about a decade now. a mere step in the right direction that doesn't also kick me in the teeth? instant top ten list.

    • @DeLvoy1988
      @DeLvoy1988 5 років тому

      what are even talking about....

    • @goldenmemes51
      @goldenmemes51 5 років тому

      @@DeLvoy1988 are you a roofer ?

    • @AE0N777
      @AE0N777 3 роки тому

      @@lockandloadlikehell I think this went over your head.

  • @hursleymoss6212
    @hursleymoss6212 5 років тому +879

    This is a stunningly fair and balanced approach to Jordan Peterson and his work. I never expected to see something like this come from the Guardian and it’s made me very hopeful.
    Can’t wait for the rest of the series!

    • @Aethelhald
      @Aethelhald 5 років тому +26

      It won't last. As soon as this series ends they'll be back to telling you that you're evil if you happen to be male/white/heterosexual.

    • @AmjadAbboud
      @AmjadAbboud 5 років тому +9

      @@Aethelhald Yeah that's very likely. Let's just have unreasonable hope it won't happen this time

    • @richardfox6595
      @richardfox6595 5 років тому +6

      I agree with the replies, the Guardian will revert to type in a hurry.

    • @sarahharris2729
      @sarahharris2729 5 років тому +3

      @@Aethelhald They did that BEFORE this series. I saw the G's article on JP months ago. This is all lip service.

    • @diepiriye
      @diepiriye 5 років тому

      @@Aethelhald You must feel guilty, then, if that's what you hear.

  • @timothymarchant9079
    @timothymarchant9079 5 років тому +238

    If this is what the sorely needed olive branch looks like then you're on the right track.
    Thought it less and less likely i'd ever do this but, 'liked'

    • @squamish4244
      @squamish4244 5 років тому +4

      I'd like an olive branch from the Peterson side too, but...I doubt one is forthcoming. If it is I'l like that video, and not the endless 'DESTROYS, OWNS, SHUTS DOWN, SHOCKS, FLATTENS' videos.

  • @saturn_in_blue
    @saturn_in_blue 5 років тому +358

    Actually, a pretty reasonable video with an interesting topic, and a fair treatment of Jordan Peterson. I'm interested in watching more, the only criticism I have is the music is a bit too loud and aggressive.
    Surprised to see something that isn't just hateful, dishonest feminist screeching from the Guardian.

    • @YorickReturns
      @YorickReturns 5 років тому +17

      "Take responsibility" is code for "Do what women demand, because a man's role is to be a slave". The difference between feminists and traditionalists is that traditionalists pat men on the head. The objectives are the same. Feminists are starting to realize this and therefore starting to go easy on traditionalists. Some are even dropping the feminist label and identifying as traditionalists themselves. If you want to test whether someone really does respect men or not, ask what that person thinks about a man who refuses to become a husband, father, dutiful provider, etc. Peterson called those men "pathetic weasels" before he back-pedalled on the choice of language.

    • @kuromez5560
      @kuromez5560 5 років тому +51

      @Juliana Silva Okay so I'm a woman but I'm a huge fan of Jordan Peterson and I've watched as many of his interviews and debates as I could find. Not ONCE did I see him make a discriminatory comment about/towards women.
      He has pointed out biological and psychological differences between men and women, but that's not misogyny, it's just truth. Men and women aren't the same. So please cite your source that Jordan Peterson is a "misogynist" please.

    • @jaromor8808
      @jaromor8808 5 років тому +35

      @Juliana Silva Feminism is hateful screeching cancer hence it is predictable that people will call it hateful screeching cancer. Nothing sad about that. The only sad thing is that there are still people dumb enough (hint: you) to defend it after all we have seen. DIAF

    • @leemcdaid6537
      @leemcdaid6537 5 років тому +15

      Get your head out of the sand @Juliana Silva

    • @theconversation9103
      @theconversation9103 5 років тому +3

      @@jaromor8808 What Jaroslav is saying is that women will not freely give him their body when and where he wishes and that is tantamount to abuse in his world

  • @2bsirius
    @2bsirius 5 років тому +746

    When did Joe Rogan get all the tats and change his name?

  • @jvbob96
    @jvbob96 4 роки тому +109

    A real journalist AND working at the guardian!? She's almost a legend

  • @fathertedczynski
    @fathertedczynski 5 років тому +365

    Fair and honest journalism from the Guardian? Was this supposed to have been uploaded on the 1st of this month?

  • @toolworks
    @toolworks 5 років тому +420

    Guardian redeeming itself from earlier hit pieces? Will reserve judgement until Ep 2 though.

    • @mr7wi
      @mr7wi 5 років тому +5

      Areo Hotah this is just click bate. Poor video

    • @champagnefroggy3801
      @champagnefroggy3801 5 років тому +29

      @Freeze Peach you're comment is more useful to society deleted

    • @joeldavis8234
      @joeldavis8234 5 років тому +19

      Freeze Peach You gonna support that claim? Or just smear?

    • @lechant7991
      @lechant7991 5 років тому +4

      @Freeze Peach nice bait

    • @jasonsender6568
      @jasonsender6568 5 років тому +6

      Freeze Peach Proven liar? Would you care to actually back that up? Also your name... Clearly you like to take the piss out of people who value free speech and use it as a reason to say things that others may like. You might not like them for doing this, but it’s kinda essential that you not seek to revoke this right. Never justify something which will inevitably be turned on you in the future. No one is scared of feminists per se, people simply despise the message that they often espouse, that men are the oppressors of women just by being men.

  • @gabosie7e777
    @gabosie7e777 5 років тому +153

    If this is the approach the Guardian will have on masculinity... congrats. Feels like things can change. Men are not the enemy. I'm happy to see this was not a hit piece. Just one thing "polemicist" is not accurate.

    • @aaryankhanna8419
      @aaryankhanna8419 5 років тому +1

      Why do you disagree with the term?

    • @HidingSleeper
      @HidingSleeper 5 років тому +1

      One mans polemicist is another mans milquetoast talking head.

  • @BrightBlackBanana
    @BrightBlackBanana 5 років тому +348

    This is really interesting! It felt like a realistic and human perspective on the whole topic.

    • @lukecooper6971
      @lukecooper6971 5 років тому +8

      makes a change lol

    • @1992AJL
      @1992AJL 5 років тому +8

      Trust me, this is what most people are like. The 'culture wars' is one big hot online mess with very little prevalence in the real world. It's a waste of time basically.

    • @attilakatona-bugner1140
      @attilakatona-bugner1140 5 років тому +1

      @@1992AJL agree. The stupidest people are the loudest too.

    • @champagnefroggy3801
      @champagnefroggy3801 5 років тому +1

      @@1992AJL that's why Jordan Peterson is such a key figure

  • @holteener14
    @holteener14 4 роки тому +54

    I've gotta say, I find Amrani totally refreshing. I first saw her when she recently covered the UFC and I came into the video with my defenses high feeling that she was going to be another media member with sneaky motives and trying to skew the narrative around a topic. However, she was open and inquisitive without any polarization judgement one way or another. This video (while maybe taking some video snip-its that portraying Peterson in a less than flattering light) was much the same. Great content keep it going!

  • @iip
    @iip 5 років тому +30

    I'd love to see such open-minded people represent journalism in today's society. Our media should be a window for the world's different views making us help see each other more accurately but instead, it contributes to the silofication of our views. Great going, Iman! Guardian has got a new subscriber.

    • @manaschoudhary5335
      @manaschoudhary5335 2 роки тому +1

      hey there bro hi a fellow subscriber well subscribed by a diff account same name love your covering of topics of linguistics

    • @khushbukapoor597
      @khushbukapoor597 2 роки тому +1

      India in pixels 😍😍😍...love your videos...
      Your subscriber

  • @harvinpetertiu
    @harvinpetertiu 5 років тому +190

    Finally! A series discussing the problems modern men face in todays culture and not riding on the toxic masculinity craze. Gotta give props to the journalist and the guardian for this one 👍

    • @christiangeiselmann
      @christiangeiselmann 5 років тому +1

      What problems do you face?

    • @DDChorror
      @DDChorror 5 років тому +15

      Men: Men are the dominent sex because we're strong
      Also Men: We just face sooo many problems in todays society omg

    • @DDChorror
      @DDChorror 5 років тому +3

      @baby bean That is not an argument

    • @AGenericAccount
      @AGenericAccount 5 років тому +10

      @@DDChorror women: we want more opportunities! We want more power! We demand this sort of equality!
      Also women: dominate me daddy
      It is not useful to criticise someone based on their own identity factors because it leads to the dangerous assumption that the individuals of the whole is in part working collectively against your own identity factors.

    • @leaveme3559
      @leaveme3559 5 років тому +3

      @@DDChorror why u hiding now answer the questions!!!!

  • @AdrianLorentsson
    @AdrianLorentsson 5 років тому +153

    I felt a sense of relief watching this. The debate over the past few years have essentially silenced a lot of men on this topic. To be able to talk about this without being labeled and viciously attacked is essential to a healthy debate and a healthy society. So thank you!

    • @Lafemmefutile
      @Lafemmefutile 5 років тому +7

      Adrian Lorentsson I think a lot of men don’t encourage intro spection in other men, calling it weak, bullying etc... it hurts everyone.

    • @Lafemmefutile
      @Lafemmefutile 5 років тому +1

      Juliana Silva There is too much money in it, too many suckers.

    • @Poolinblue
      @Poolinblue 5 років тому +8

      @Juliana Silvawould you mind to elaborate more on "charlatan"? What precisely makes him that?

    • @JODIDOPIPA
      @JODIDOPIPA 5 років тому +3

      And why would you feel relief when men will still be silenced and only "heard" in niche videos like this one and never be an acceptable opinion for those who have powerful voices ? (say actors, musicians, etc) which is who need to talk about this?

    • @teddygrey6288
      @teddygrey6288 5 років тому +1

      I agree, it’s refreshing to see men explored as opposed to being labelled.

  • @KonSimpl72
    @KonSimpl72 5 років тому +541

    Interesting video. The 'music' has to be more sparse/discreet though.

    • @jorger7723
      @jorger7723 5 років тому +5

      I agree. The music at the start was overcoming what was being said in my opinion.

    • @drinaciofernandes
      @drinaciofernandes 5 років тому +1

      Agreed

    • @mjt1517
      @mjt1517 5 років тому +1

      That music was pretty low key, Konstan. It was fine.

  • @DonJuanDM
    @DonJuanDM 5 років тому +45

    He nailed it: "We passed the point now where your feelings and emotions become counterproductive to you making progress"

  • @zan6585
    @zan6585 5 років тому +21

    When you're going to say something...
    Layer 1: Is it morally proper
    Layer 2: Is it polite/appropriate
    Layer 3: Will I offend a gender studies major

  • @Mustafa-fi2dz
    @Mustafa-fi2dz 5 років тому +41

    Other than the obvious half-funny statement "half muslim, half white" part lol White is not a religion and Muslim is not a race. I think this documentary is exactly what young men and women need! He attracts attention because a lot of what he says does reflect on people's lives, one of his points in his book which is just brilliant is paraphrasing here "don't compare yourself with others, compare yourself today against yourself yesterday" this is how you see improvements and me applying this on my daily life, I've seen big improvements and daily progress.

    • @MobiusCoin
      @MobiusCoin 5 років тому

      It's not technically incorrect. I can be half-white, half-asian, half-buddhist, half-Christian, depending on how much you consider religion as something you actively participate in or something that's a cultural identity. They are "halves" on a different axis.

    • @Voeris1
      @Voeris1 5 років тому

      @Juliana Silva Goes to show....

  • @ruben2380
    @ruben2380 5 років тому +452

    The audio is too distracting.

    • @Rhb989
      @Rhb989 5 років тому +5

      Simon Manikkam notice how every cut is in sync with the music and even with the longer cuts the music gets louder towards the end.

    • @gwarlow
      @gwarlow 5 років тому +14

      Simon Manikkam Exactly. Why do the "producers" of certain videos think that we can concentrate on the message with a music track competing for our attention. When you have a typical conversation with someone do you pull out your mini bluetooth speaker and play some tunes to "enhance" the conversation? I don't.

  • @jasonludwig2488
    @jasonludwig2488 5 років тому +70

    The most important thing in a conversation for her is the truth...
    Wow. So based.

    • @nigelrhodes4330
      @nigelrhodes4330 5 років тому +1

      The fact that she has to even say it speaks volumes about the culture of The Guardian, I guess for most of her peers the truth comes way down the list of important things.

  • @hotstepofficial
    @hotstepofficial 5 років тому +48

    Haha Guardian a bit late to the sensible debate. But better late than never. I would respectfully point out that the c-16 issue was a freedom of speech concern and not a transgender issue.

  • @noneofyourbusiness3288
    @noneofyourbusiness3288 5 років тому +12

    This is league better than I expected when I read "The Guardian" and "masculinity" in the same sentence.

  • @maxtheawesome4255
    @maxtheawesome4255 5 років тому +75

    I'm interested. This video coming from the Guardian, this was really refreshing to see.

  • @nickmc1142
    @nickmc1142 5 років тому +8

    I'm actually shocked that this video was fair and not a hit piece;

  • @isaacleach1
    @isaacleach1 5 років тому +39

    finally! an intellectually honest analysis of Peterson from a left-leaning publication

  • @abhishekrao1602
    @abhishekrao1602 5 років тому +20

    You know the sad thing? Being a woman you can easily say the same things that if were to be said by a man would attract online bully crowd, may be even lead to job loss. You will on the other hand be called independent and powerful!

    • @taurusteelpan
      @taurusteelpan 5 років тому +6

      It's that female privilege no feminists wants to admit existing.

  • @Alacritistic
    @Alacritistic 5 років тому +14

    As a man, and an admirer of JP, I appreciate this piece. I feel Amrani has a level of compassion combined with journalistic integrity that is vanishingly rare these days, and makes me want to listen to what she has to say. Thank you.

  • @kelvinbennis2989
    @kelvinbennis2989 5 років тому +16

    This is embarrassing frankly trying to totally change their position on Peterson without admitting the nonsense and the lies and the mischaracterisations they’ve done in the past this organisation has no respect for the public seriously.

    • @kelvinbennis2989
      @kelvinbennis2989 5 років тому +2

      Juliana Silva What is your point are you defending the guardian or are you attacking Peterson by the way guardian are calling him a charlatan they make a hole in many things but I’m not a charlatan

    • @paunaic5460
      @paunaic5460 5 років тому

      @@kelvinbennis2989 She's been spamming comments all around calling him names. Ignore her. But it is true that the Guardian and media networks in general are not monolith, or at least in theory are not.

  • @thecurrentmoment
    @thecurrentmoment 5 років тому +21

    That kid was very wise for his age - being aware of those around you. Awareness is a big part of being a man, you need to be able to respond to things in your environment appropriately so you always need to be aware (not paranoid) of what's going on

    • @mattapusswreks7741
      @mattapusswreks7741 5 років тому +1

      Introspection is the basic tenets of wisdom if used to move towards a purposeful life

  • @mpGreen03
    @mpGreen03 2 роки тому +1

    "Many men don't know what they are" - ain't all of us like that though? You grow up, dreams get crushed and you don't know how did you get here and what to do?

  • @oliversmith4130
    @oliversmith4130 4 роки тому +19

    Respect to her, she’s actually trying to understand 👍🏻

  • @chandrashekhermishra5847
    @chandrashekhermishra5847 4 роки тому +16

    It's official, I've fallen in love with Iman. She interviewed me in my dreams last night !

  • @bubbasmoleyay9799
    @bubbasmoleyay9799 5 років тому +19

    How can you be half of a religion
    "I'm half of a religion and half white"
    Ok

    • @xWHITExEAGLEx
      @xWHITExEAGLEx 5 років тому +3

      Yeah I didn't get that either.

    • @bubbasmoleyay9799
      @bubbasmoleyay9799 5 років тому

      @TheTimbalanders hahahaha

    • @MajkaSrajka
      @MajkaSrajka 5 років тому +5

      Intersectionalism + bad math?

    • @e-tan3911
      @e-tan3911 5 років тому +2

      I think she meant "half arabic" because a lot of muslims are also arabic

  • @stuffedsheepshead
    @stuffedsheepshead 5 років тому +3

    Wow, The Guardian needs to give this journalist a promotion.

    • @joshrijvers
      @joshrijvers 5 років тому

      Hopefully she doesn't suddenly go missing...

  • @Longtack55
    @Longtack55 2 роки тому +1

    This is JP three years ago. Much has changed since then, and he seems to be more strident and less compelling. His "dancing" around his religiosity drove me nuts, and he is NOT a flag-bearer for 70 year old feminist me. Women mostly don't want to dominate - just fairness and equal opportunity, in my experience.

  • @mikaelaseabourne4557
    @mikaelaseabourne4557 5 років тому +1

    As a woman I find a lot of Jordan Peterson content valuable as a woman too. I find that society now expects me as a woman too behave and feel like a victim to gender, instead of a powerful agent for change regardless of gender. I don't always agree with his personal views, but his perspectives on responsibility, psychology, meaning, and life have been practical and valuable for me.

  • @townsendtowers2311
    @townsendtowers2311 5 років тому +17

    First time I’ve liked a Guardian article

  • @mfundimkhize3137
    @mfundimkhize3137 5 років тому +53

    What's the point of the music and why is it so loud!

  • @sammathai761
    @sammathai761 5 років тому +43

    This video.
    Pros:
    Fair look on the topic of masculinity and political correctness.
    Not a hit piece.
    Cons:
    That intro.
    The music is too loud and distracting.

    • @ResilientVulture
      @ResilientVulture 5 років тому +2

      what kind of world are we living in where the cons to a guardian video extends to their choice of music... wow ahaha

    • @Cheaze56789
      @Cheaze56789 5 років тому

      You can never please everyone

  • @spamablamagogo880
    @spamablamagogo880 5 років тому +1

    Great series - from a father-husband-brother-son-colleague trying to figure out what's changed and how to adapt. I can't speak for all guys, but I need this kind of stuff from The Guardian and journalists like it. It might also be worth saying that I'm a professional environmentalist and consider myself a (somewhat contrarian) compassionate liberal but with a serious dose of pragmatic moderatism, but have struggled to read the Guardian for a few years now (although I dip back in now and again... maybe in hope?!). This has DEFINITELY brought me back. PLEASE keep it up!!

  • @CitizenCage
    @CitizenCage 5 років тому +1

    traditional masculinity IS masculinity. Providing, protecting, taking what's yours, etc. These are traits men aspire to have. These are the traits men admire within other men.

  • @pw8297
    @pw8297 5 років тому +144

    Why the background music?

    • @JackLoveday
      @JackLoveday 5 років тому +15

      more like foreground music

    • @gil_7038
      @gil_7038 5 років тому +3

      It makes the video pleasent to watch.

  • @chraman169
    @chraman169 5 років тому +13

    Jordan Peterson has helped me get my life together.
    I am now a bettee person.
    I love him

    • @Jules1414
      @Jules1414 5 років тому +9

      Not a better speller though.

  • @user-zy9yg2eu5t
    @user-zy9yg2eu5t 5 років тому +8

    Whoever did the sound mix for this is a muppet... no need for jaunty, on-hold telephone music all the way through

  • @senshai1267
    @senshai1267 3 роки тому +1

    Surprising to see anyone doing stories about masculinity.
    Without preaching how it should be.

  • @sebastianalegria3401
    @sebastianalegria3401 2 роки тому +1

    Jordan Peterson's figure might be provocative but, at the same time interesting to appreciate. If there's something I like most about him, he doesn't care about what people say whether he was or politically INCORRECT, frankly, he says what the others think.

  • @zerodarkthirty1935
    @zerodarkthirty1935 5 років тому +26

    I so look forward to that barber shop talk! His opinion seems so humble and well understood.

  • @danielwebb8402
    @danielwebb8402 5 років тому +52

    Surprised at the number of women in the audience...
    What a surprise a) at the presumption b) at the fact real life was diffetent

    • @saisameer8771
      @saisameer8771 5 років тому +14

      @Juliana Silva I am replying to one right now.

    • @Sam-es2gf
      @Sam-es2gf 5 років тому +4

      Literally watched a Jordan Peterson video the other day where he talks about the contrast between his college psychology lectures (~80% women) and his previous tours (~80% men) so it's a fair point. Leave the cheap point scoring attempts to people that have no logical argument to make. We have plenty. The real question is why there are more women as he becomes more mainstream - because while western women may be set up by society to have more advantages they are more miserable than ever before in history and questioning why.

    • @LeethLee1
      @LeethLee1 5 років тому +6

      I went to his show and it actually surprised me too lol. But since UA-cam is mostly male I guess we don't realize. Many women I know who I've introduced to JBP quite like him.
      He manages to get the yearning for both men *and* women in a comfortable environment at his live shows.
      If women generally prefer people over things, and men generally things over people. You'd notice men will do the online thing in isolation, women will do the live show gathering or the book in higher amount.

    • @Sam-es2gf
      @Sam-es2gf 5 років тому +1

      @@LeethLee1 You are right, in fact in the video I mentioned he says there is clearly something going on because women are more interested in people (hence the gender imbalance in psychology) but it's not 80% women at his shows :)

    • @dumfriesspearhead7398
      @dumfriesspearhead7398 5 років тому +2

      @@Sam-es2gf His YT audience is mostly male, but it seems that around 1/3 of his audience on his lecture tours are women. I'd imagine that more women read his books as well.

  • @---vv5oy
    @---vv5oy 5 років тому +69

    In india all these questions and problems plus caste

    • @rohanjarande
      @rohanjarande 5 років тому +8

      But we don't have the Race issue here yet, so it's pretty much even.

    • @wthwasthat8884
      @wthwasthat8884 5 років тому +22

      @@rohanjarande The caste system is far more insidious and horrifying than any race issues ever will be. It's neo-fuedalism basically and it's the main thing holding India back from taking it's place as a superpower on the world stage. I wouldn't go as far as saying it's pretty much even. It's not even close really.

    • @ashblaxe5911
      @ashblaxe5911 5 років тому +4

      @@rohanjarande
      We Do have Race system.
      But it has more to do with skin colour

    • @rohanjarande
      @rohanjarande 5 років тому +1

      @@ashblaxe5911 that's everywhere... And it's based more on the current attraction meta then it is based on skin color, because brighter skin tone is associated with beauty and health in our society, it is not a race issue, that's different...

    • @rohanjarande
      @rohanjarande 5 років тому +4

      @@wthwasthat8884 That's just false, race issues are much more insidious today then cast issues are because Races are much more apparent, primal and exclusive in their nature... Also, the main thing holding India back in today's age is Corruption and massive government overreach. Not whatever is remaining of the cast system today, although, it is doing substantial damage as it is, it's nowhere near what corruption and incompetence is doing to the country.
      In fact, the cast issue is the one place I'm most hopeful when it comes to the Indian society.

  • @milmillington1709
    @milmillington1709 4 роки тому +1

    It would be a better journalism if The Guardian can cover on South Korean’s changes on modern masculinity and their portrayal of ideal masculinity. South Korean’s movies had changed their portrayal of 1980s ‘brute/strength/patriarchy’ masculinity to 2000s more feminist and intricate masculinity...as does in reality...and this changes are acceptable to society without being demeaning and threatening to the concept of masculinity in modern South Korea.

  • @russell6011
    @russell6011 4 роки тому +1

    What would be better for the series is if they interviewed male psychologists and sociologists separately with these interviews of these male individuals. We would like to see what the academic community and mental health community says about what they understand about these issues to compare to what these male individuals were saying. Perhaps academia and the medical community are unplugged or they can comment on the over arching trends of the male conversation to give weight to these individual anecdotal stories.
    One thing to look at is the impact of urban community's music, art, and protest world on the male culture conversation through media and the news. This culture seems to have a big impact on the male conversation with young men but this becomes a problem since this urban world suffers from a huge absence of fathers in their world. The world of the Cosby Show is a fantasy while the world of becoming a statistic is inevitable. We need to be able to hold our male friends, cry over a hard day, be fearful of a hard path to start down, but all we are allowed to do is Man Up. Well sorry but I refuse to be that type of Man. I just hope the media's presentation of Man catches up soon enough.

    • @openheart820
      @openheart820 4 роки тому

      I completely agree with you Damian. Especially in the latter part. I was having a rough day today and really felt like hugging one of my guy friends and crying for a few minutes. I refrained from doing so in order to keep things civil and "ordinary". It just felt extremely painful having to hold in my emotional turmoil in order for my guy friends to feel comfortable. I long to gave a safe environment where I can be open about myself without being reprimanded for not being "manly".

  • @Sharkyg1985
    @Sharkyg1985 5 років тому +11

    Brilliant. The hatred spewed towards Peterson is pretty shocking at times. These vicious character assassinations need to stop and we all need to have intellectual discussions and debates with better spirit.

  • @yothiga
    @yothiga 5 років тому +4

    I click on Jordan Peterson clips regularly and kinda agree with him but comment sections in his clips are toxic af.

    • @MOODOFMIND
      @MOODOFMIND 5 років тому +1

      I see no value in reading the comment section. Why even bother.

    • @srs1518
      @srs1518 3 роки тому

      @@MOODOFMIND and yet here you are. sorry just too easy to pass up

  • @UnconventionaI
    @UnconventionaI 5 років тому +12

    So refreshing to have a media outlet report with questions instead of answers. Congrats, you've figured out journalism.

  • @batwick0077
    @batwick0077 3 роки тому +164

    “Neil owns a bunch of barber shops”
    Neil: I guide others to a treasure I cannot possess

    • @keithwilkins1437
      @keithwilkins1437 2 роки тому

      Special Guardian example ! Journalists (usually ex university) have no idea .They are full of theory .Like your comment .

    • @ukiyo8397
      @ukiyo8397 Рік тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @321erup123
    @321erup123 5 років тому +1

    No one would have a problem with Peterson if his messages stopped at self improvement. Great series so far.

  • @jagjitdusanjh8356
    @jagjitdusanjh8356 2 роки тому +1

    This is ridiculous. Just imagine if a man tried to do a series on modern femininity. The screeches would be deafening...

  • @marksman138
    @marksman138 5 років тому +54

    The music used in this is terrible

    • @happybobyou
      @happybobyou 5 років тому +2

      It's great. I just can't hear her words over it

  • @laurenreiff3032
    @laurenreiff3032 5 років тому +22

    well done! two words come to mind watching this rare display of curious inquiry and fair assessment: RESPECT and RELIEF. This is what we need more of! Thanks Iman :)

  • @user-wc5nc2ud5m
    @user-wc5nc2ud5m 5 років тому +8

    I would love to see you do an actual interview with Jordan Peterson as well!

  • @rewer
    @rewer 5 років тому +1

    I’m a man, I read the comments and felt quite disappointed. Why do men always insist the minority and women to listen and understanding. I personally never see men like Jordan Peterson did that to any other women. Try to be “fair” with him is like trying to be fair with a cult leader, his name will be tainted in history book due to his ideology. I understood Guardian try to see things in different perspective ... but I honestly think it’s pointless.

  • @akirai8972
    @akirai8972 5 років тому +2

    There's a reason she talked about Jordan Peterson in the first episode, it's so we can all comeback for more...why ? Because JP sells...by episode 4 it will be totally different.

  • @Talshere88
    @Talshere88 5 років тому +34

    Ok guardian... Not a hit piece. Genuinely surprised.
    You've intriguing me, I'll stick with it and see if I can be convinced.

    • @Talshere88
      @Talshere88 5 років тому

      @Kurt Barryman if they are not rewarded for actually doing unbias reporting, they have no reason to ever do it.

  • @johnalvarez3949
    @johnalvarez3949 4 роки тому +18

    Why has Imrani not been on Rogan’s podcast yet?

  • @jacquesjames6226
    @jacquesjames6226 5 років тому +7

    Jordan Peterson isn’t provocative haha. Also I’ve been to two of his shows before and the audience wasn’t predominantly male, it was a mix.

  • @dpoisonedburritos
    @dpoisonedburritos 5 років тому +1

    This is the kind of journalism we need a lot more of. Dialogue over taking sides. I'm here for it!

  • @PINKAS1
    @PINKAS1 5 років тому

    Subscribed for this video and series! Please keep the quality up

  • @XXwarriorxx343
    @XXwarriorxx343 5 років тому +6

    Props to the Guardian. Wasn't just a hit piece on Peterson and presented a fair analysis. Very refreshing.

    • @XXwarriorxx343
      @XXwarriorxx343 5 років тому

      Grow up. I'm not a fan of Peterson but I don't think it's okay for the mainstream media to slander people and misrepresent them solely based on their political beliefs(as is frequently the case) and so I was impressed by the Guardian's honesty. It's people like you who are unwilling to engage in a dialogue and just resort to childish insults that have held back the reasonable left.@2manynegativewaves

  • @KingTesticus
    @KingTesticus 5 років тому +6

    A woman doing a masculinity series is like me writing a book, The Third Trimester Of Your Pregnancy & What To Expect. Or me, a white guy writing a book about being black (Shaun King & Rachel Dolezal exempted of course).

    • @kuniver8proof
      @kuniver8proof 5 років тому

      Stealing Bill Burr lines trying to be edgy without watching the video where the men do the talking.... Call off the search party we found the dumb one

  • @665Kattt
    @665Kattt Рік тому +3

    From what I see in society, right-wing men tend to have toxic masculinity issues, though they seem to be in denial about it, and left-wing men tend to have more of a modern masculinity. There's always a few exceptions to the rule, but this is what I've noticed in society.

  • @AlexHasAnAxe
    @AlexHasAnAxe 5 років тому +12

    I’m shocked! The Guardian can actually do proper pieces! How refreshing

  • @FableMythLore
    @FableMythLore 5 років тому

    Finally something reported IN context, no skimping of details, no spun narrative, Yes a summary but remained in context.

  • @benhendricks260
    @benhendricks260 5 років тому

    Not only are we feeling like we can’t speak without being criticized... we are being punished.

  •  5 років тому +11

    I really wish that JP would see this series and call Imam for an interview. I think it would be amazing.

  • @tigran914
    @tigran914 5 років тому +6

    Now I feel bad that I completely dismissed that article asking about men's issues. Never really expected The Guardian to be fair.

  • @enfieldli9296
    @enfieldli9296 5 років тому +23

    Funny one of your journalist wrote a peice titled "How dangerous is Jordan B Peterson".

    • @thenewtwenties
      @thenewtwenties 5 років тому +7

      Different people have different opinions.

    • @MajkaSrajka
      @MajkaSrajka 5 років тому +1

      ​@@thenewtwenties
      Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

    • @deathstarresident
      @deathstarresident 4 роки тому

      “Pluralism” google it. I’m glad there are differing views within The Guardian.

  • @Danny_Aniss
    @Danny_Aniss 5 років тому +2

    Now this is how journalism is done

  • @lifedecoded9842
    @lifedecoded9842 5 років тому

    Dear Guardian, get this lady on more. Like seriously give her all the spotlight, she's probably the single best journalist/speaker in your employ for getting your message across.

  • @TheHotdogstand
    @TheHotdogstand 5 років тому +7

    Iman Armani is a true journalist fighting against the waves of clickbait misinformation on both sides. What a badass!

  • @kelvinbennis2989
    @kelvinbennis2989 5 років тому +4

    Everyone just go and watch Jordan Peterson don’t listen to somebody talking about Jordan Peterson trying to make money out of discussing someone just watch the man himself .

  • @SF-op5ix
    @SF-op5ix 5 років тому +10

    I loved how this was shot/edited
    Host/journalist was fantastic! Very interesting. Guardian more vids like this pls

  • @pentacosttb2565
    @pentacosttb2565 5 років тому +1

    Wow, a mainstream journalist doing their job properly, and from the Guardian! I'd almost given up hope of ever seeing that again! Actually gave me a bit of hope for some of the rifts in the left and centre to be healed some day! Well done!