I miss when it was a story about Nazis encountering something they thought they could use before promptly finding out that they had no idea what they were getting int
I agree. It’s one of the reasons I still enjoyed Black Ops 3 as well. While it did have obvious inspiration from the Cthulu mythos, it still grounded most of its plot around real life conspiracy theories and events. It’s basically a combination of the hollow earth, aliens influenced ancient humanity, quantum immortality and multiple worlds conspiracy theories mixed together with Lovecraftian influence. It even sprinkles a bit of the Knights Templar/Free Mason conspiracy theories as well.
I'm so glad I bought that comic book 6 years ago, seeing Stuhlinger, Misty, Russman, and Marlton in a comic book, alongside with Richtofen and primis crew.
I think that blank portrait was representing the only major character we had since WaW but did not know what they looked like, so they put in a blank - Dr. Maxis.
It was absolutely pablo, it makes a lot more sense than something like maxis. Pablo was one of richtofen's test subjects but supposedly died and got replaced by Dempsey, which is why he's blacked out. And when you play as Takeo, he says "maybe what once was is no more, but shall be again" which is implying it is pablo It just makes so much more sense than any other theory
That makes sense. Kino is a presentation of the work that Group 935 has been doing under Richthofen and Maxis. There’s the tele on stage + film reels of the zombies, perhaps the super soldier test subjects (our characters) have portraits because they’re also being presented. Takeo’s quote about the blank portrait is also applicable to Macis who is “killed” by Richtofen but comes back in Moon
Jason blundell confirmed that the ascension poster/teaser art that had a strange unseen character was dr gersh, maybe it was a hint at the next map or future character. So I believe the portrait is dr gersh. There is also the rocket room in kino acting as a hint at the next map.
Takeo's quote in BO1 Kino match up with Pablo Marinus, "Perhaps what once was, is no more, but shall be again!" Meaning that Pablo Marinus was a hero in a great war and was suppose to be a test subject but it was a failure experiment and he died and erased from the group which is no more. But then he returned in Tag Der Toten being alive as a hermit and revealed himself being a hero.
Yeah, I will never ever accept that it's primis Nikolai, it just isn't. It was 100% suppost to be pablo, it just makes so much sense, and when kino released primis didn't even exist It's pablo, and I'm not excepting anything else. It has all of richtofen's test subjects, and the one that supposedly died got blacked out. It makes the most sense, idc what anyone says
I’ve always thought it was either Pablo or Viktor Reznov. Maybe even Peter McCain, I know it wouldn’t make sense for him to have a portrait in a Nazi facility, but I mean it wouldn’t make sense for Takeo, Nikolai or Dempsey to have one either
If you notice whilst going through the water tunnel or the “worm hole” it starts off as an icy tunnel and half way through, the ice is gone and it is just rock. I think this infers you are travelling to Phobos.
My theory is the reason you can only see Mars when you go through the ice tunnel and the music video shows Tag Der Toten in Phobos is because Tags a pocket dimension that coexists inside the interior of Phobos similar to Alcatraz. When you go through the tunnel you see mars through a rift and loose interior of the hollow moon.
11:13 I actually believe the answer changed over time. Even though it’s meant a fourth wall breaking joke, Ultimis Dempsey’s quote in response to this Easter Egg is kind of telling about it: “Dang it Treyarch! Are you messing with the storyline again?!” Remember, aspects of the story changed over time due to multiple reasons, like the switching of lead directors & budget issues.
the silhouette painting is the player, since developers like to sometimes do things like that. like in the credits they sometimes say "and you" like the player who plays the game. it just makes the most sense imo
The blank portrait was 100% supposed to be Pablo back in the day. I only say this because the first and only reference for quite some time of him was from call of the dead. Which is a couple dlcs later, not to mention that call of the dead was planned during WAW.
@@daboydudus3912they had several maps planned that ended up as bo1 maps including a shore or beach map that became COTD and a Paris map which got reworked into Moon
@@darius-ogi think you entirely missed the point of his assumption brother. even dempsy acknowledges the player as a separate entity in Kino voice lines
I still think Tank should’ve been the one to take Kronorium. They were hinting that Tank was special the whole series only to give it to drunk Russian 2.0.
@@joeosullivan2000 they did that for bo4. But even up to bo3 they were hinting that Tank would be the one to get things done or atleast lived the longest. One of the hardest cyphers ever found to this day revolves around tank.
Same, I base the characters off their World at War orders: Player 1: Dempsey Player 2: Nikolai Player 3: Takeo Player 4: Richtofen It always felt odd to me that Player 2 would become the main character imo
@@yourbestpallshawn4139Meh, not really. In the giant when you PaP as Richtofen he says something about how their “salvation may lie solely on Tank”, then goes on to say… “or was it Nikolai.. or Takeo? I never remember.”
Anyone else think Phobos and Deimos could relate to Phoebe and Dempsey? Like that's where they got the name for Phoebe, because of the similarity of their names
Quick theory: Dempsey is Misty's great grandfather. Let's say Dempsey's daughter gets married and has a son. She would probably tell that son about her her father was a marine, which would have inspired him to become a marine. He then gets married, and one of his children is Misty.
We can't say with certainty that Treyarch hadn't thought up the Primus crew when Kino released Hell WAW had a song in its files about Jeb building the PAP machine and that wasn't revealed until BO2 It isn't insane to think that some of these "unsolvable" eggs are only unsolvable because there is still information Treyarch is sitting on
I always thought the Kino portrait was Peter McCain. Not sure what a picture of him would be doing there, but that's what my friends and I always thought
Demsy couldn't have been born in the 1890s, he is a pfc in the United States Marine Corps. He wasn't allowed to pick up Corporal or Sargent because of hazing. Even if he had been a Sargent, he would have only been around 24 or 25. The only way around this is if he joined later in life gowever if he was born in the 1890s he would have been too old to join the USMC. I am myself a retired Marine.
The way the the crew died could have been so much better. Like them sitting there with blood pooring from there eyes doesn’t seem like a very fun way to go out. Especially if you’ve been fighting zombies for a couple years straight.
I agree. After so many maps, so many dollars and so many game overs it would have been nice to see them succeed and be a to go back to a normal life. Yeah you could write it that nobody ever would know what they did for them, but that's fine because the DID it.
I think it's a lot more of a full circle, as in the game you play and die in an endless loop and when you come back you have more knowledge of how to do what the characters really did as they didn't die in the story(duh) but in the end the only way to truly win was to die all along like we've been doing as players and just end it all
TBH i believe the Kino portrait hasn’t been touched yet because they are using it for when they really need to, like they could make it Cold War Richthofen if they wanted to
You think it’s possible that Tank had Misty during one their many travels? There are countless dimensions so the variation of her “daddy” dying could simply have been an alternate Dempsey. The same way Richtofen stated that the version of Tank that had his soul taken had no important knowledge to impart meaning it’s possible that our characters could’ve lived very different lives like Dimension 2210 Eddy. In their final moments, Dempsey was asked what he really wanted and he said he wanted to live a simple life and hang up his boots and train recruits. My theory is that an alternate Dempsey had a child while time traveling which would distort the age gap of Tank and Misty. Share your thoughts please!
The black portaits in original kino were made by people who were not involved with bo3 zombies at all. The idea that the black portrait represented a multiverse timeline of a character that was already there is absolutely not the case.
The bo3 zombies screen is them chillin in the dark aether. Before they sadly turn into decrepit monsters, which is pretty much confirmed to have happened to the transit crew.
About Shangri-la, it is believe that in moon when you teliport to moon you go to the future meaning it can be a thing that is happening, because time travel and teliporting are linked
"How do we tell the fans directly, without question, that Tag is on Phobos?" "Release a video with a lighthouse on phobos." *the fans still theorizing years later*
Personally what I think happened is whilst they were filming the rod made a bubble around the area of cotd and transported it to Phobos which is why no one could find George or the crew
And it would also explain how those zombies just came out of nowhere because obviously they set everything up like the cameras and the mics without finding a single zombie because they only came out when the ultimus crew were teleported there and in doing so the rod teleported the area to Phobos
With the kino pictures why dont people acknowledge the one on the ground after the blank one and the few that sre in the spawn upstairs where the zombies spawn from on the right side in the back? Am I the only one who thinks about all of them and not just the one?
Pretty sure glitching queen or someone else posted a video that showed what the exact steps were for the tag “flinger” ee. The steps were found years later.
The mars theory is the reason I love zombies and sad things are they way they are now. So much of the content we've gotten has come from devs listening to the community speculate! Glad i was part of that era that was able to experience zombies for the first time ever!
My take is the blank portrait in kino is it represents you the player as you are technically the fifth member of the crew viewing the story through the actions of what ever of the 4 characters the game chooses to put you as and because you aren't actually in the game but playing it you become a part of it and the blank portrait could be the representation of this maybe I'm wrong but seeing as the stories for the offshoot timelines weren't yet thought of maybe this theory is plausible
These two maps as a result of Element 115 experiments have destabilised these two map locations in space and time and shift between past/future and present. Also since the Earth wasn’t in the same point in space in the distant past/future naturally the locations would imprint themselves onto the planets that were currently occupying these particular points space at the point in time they would appear in the distant past.. TL;DR: These two Zombie Map Locations are basically just Quantum Slipping through Time..
Odd question: Where are zombies supposed to come from? Like on moon for instance, Is the implication that the thousands of zombies coming for you are all scientists and astronauts who were at the moon and turned to zombies? Or do they just spawn in thin air like they do in the game? But like with some sorta magic essentially to explain how they spawn from nothingness 😅
No. Everything evil was sent back where it originated, and the 2 pure souls walked into the new universe(Samantha and Eddie in Bo4) after Nikolai wished for the Multiverse to end while creating a new brand new one for the Children, "His comradres" before he poisoned the rest of Ultimis and Primis, and sent Victis on their Suicide mission. He then gave Samantha a gun and had her shoot him.
about the Kevin Sherwood video for Tag - it could be that the lighthouse in the rock represents Tag taking place in near the Tunguskan river - also a reference to the original Tunguska meteorite of Element 115 that’s referenced on Shi No Numa
Makes me so sad the cod zombies is in tatters. They need to bring back a set crew we can emotionally invest in and have a storyline that doesn't just seek like a military campaign with a twist.
You can't gloss over time travel like that, and we know the Dr was jumping through timelines/dimensions. Totally possible Tank is Misty's dad. If you can move tubes of blood between dimensions then you can move people or alter timelines. Lots of possibilities
Nice content. I've always felt compelled to pursue the greatest interests of mankind, to wit. A way to be influential, powerful and protected. always felt the need to be recognized wherever i go, not because i am proud or clamorous but because of who i am and what i represent. The inner me is gasping to find out more knowledge about the human race and about the things that not everyone is destined to know. I wish to blossom into the enlightenment that our forebears wanted so desperately for us to gain.
well i think your feeling is kinda understandable, it's really just you been human. If you really seek enlightenment you can achieve that and so much more by joining the Illuminatus Brotherhood. I know it sounds mythical, but there are ways you can actually get in
yeah that's intentional, i mean that's what they actually want you to think. if you need to get more illuminated on the subject, look up Anthony Rogers Szymon. Will help you get more clarity and answers.
I think the misty quote and mars Easter egg in tag were more just lil nods from the developers on the most popular fan theories more so then an actual confirmation of either
We know the forest is where the go after Gorod Krovi and before Revelations, Monty says this about it in the "Official Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 / Treyarch - Dr. Monty" trailer, " "This is it. The aether. The infinite. The reality beyond.", to me it sorta seems like a gateway between Earth and Agartha.
The light from a shore video has a lot of like symbolic scenes, theres one with the house then the house but the trees are burnt and stuff. I think the whole video is symbolic and matching the tone of the music. also that rock could be a representation of element 115, since that is what our whole story started with. But i do like the part about eclipse mode shang being on mars, but not tag. I think that ee is more so a call back to the old theory. what with looking at mars and hearing shang's loading music, and the fact that you aren't supposed to see tag from there should mean tag at least is in fact on earth, then you get a black loading screen to go back to the map
Pretty simple the guy tries to leave as he checks behind and tag is in the distance he eventually walks straight back into it because he’s doing a lap of a moon 18k kilometers could take someone 3 hours to walk so he feels like he’s getting away then he gets back to the same part of the moon he began with think that alone and the fact the music video has a picture of the moon and the fact that u can see mars through the tunnel is enough evidence that it’s on the moon did u just ignore the video when u watched itV
Misty could be a great grandchild of dempsey and maybe dempsey’s daughter had a child who she told stories to about her dad(dempsey) and how he fought in the war and then this child of dempsey’s daughter decided to join the marines like dempsey where he eventually then had a daughter who turned out to be misty. The lineage goes: Dempsey->Dempsey’s daughter->son->Misty There could be an extra parent/child here between dempsey’s daughter and Misty
I still think it's possible for Dempsey to be her dad. Especially since time travel is a big thing. Why can't her mom never tell her about her dad especially if he jus ups and vanishes because he time travels nd wld vanish without any trace
What if Peter is Misty's dad, him and Dempsey both seemed close and maybe they basically act the same and that's why misty sorta acts like him. I'm sure I'm wrong but it's just a thought.
@16:35 I totally forgot about peter. Where the hell did peter go after nuketown. Bro said he had something to to and treyarch completely forgot about it come tag der toten.
I kind of feel stupid that no one's ever thought of the possibility of Misty being a granddaughter or a great-granddaughter after all if tank depcy had a daughter she would probably take her husband's last name which could explain the last name difference
FSR I feel like a Black Ops Amazing OG and anybody remember the old intro song he had which was paint it back by the rolling stones anybody remember that?
Wait, people didn't know Shangri-la was near the Himalayas??? I knew that within the first month the map released. Since the orginal Zombies story was based on real life things the Nazis did. One of those things was travelling to that region of the world to look for the orginal Arayan race. Which I assumed was the inspiration behind the map.
I miss the old cod zombies where they would use really life conspiracy’s to make the map it made the map feel way more grounded and real
loved when they did that made the map horrifying
I miss when it was a story about Nazis encountering something they thought they could use before promptly finding out that they had no idea what they were getting int
@@DigitalEWhore inst that basically cod ww2s story?
I agree. It’s one of the reasons I still enjoyed Black Ops 3 as well. While it did have obvious inspiration from the Cthulu mythos, it still grounded most of its plot around real life conspiracy theories and events. It’s basically a combination of the hollow earth, aliens influenced ancient humanity, quantum immortality and multiple worlds conspiracy theories mixed together with Lovecraftian influence. It even sprinkles a bit of the Knights Templar/Free Mason conspiracy theories as well.
@@DigitalEWhore this.
I'm so glad I bought that comic book 6 years ago, seeing Stuhlinger, Misty, Russman, and Marlton in a comic book, alongside with Richtofen and primis crew.
The nostalgia is crazy with that comic book honestly
Fuck bro I’m just getting into comics & didn’t know they have cod comics holy shittttt
I have 2 of 6. Now they be pricey! The comics have cyphers and little easter eggs in em. Love how expansive the lore is
I have all 6 🙏
@@kayascomixlet me borrow one
I think that blank portrait was representing the only major character we had since WaW but did not know what they looked like, so they put in a blank - Dr. Maxis.
It was absolutely pablo, it makes a lot more sense than something like maxis. Pablo was one of richtofen's test subjects but supposedly died and got replaced by Dempsey, which is why he's blacked out. And when you play as Takeo, he says "maybe what once was is no more, but shall be again" which is implying it is pablo
It just makes so much more sense than any other theory
That makes sense. Kino is a presentation of the work that Group 935 has been doing under Richthofen and Maxis. There’s the tele on stage + film reels of the zombies, perhaps the super soldier test subjects (our characters) have portraits because they’re also being presented. Takeo’s quote about the blank portrait is also applicable to Macis who is “killed” by Richtofen but comes back in Moon
It's Dempsey
Jason blundell confirmed that the ascension poster/teaser art that had a strange unseen character was dr gersh, maybe it was a hint at the next map or future character. So I believe the portrait is dr gersh. There is also the rocket room in kino acting as a hint at the next map.
It’s Pablo. There’s a cut maxis model & photo in Bo1 they knew exactly how he looked.
Takeo's quote in BO1 Kino match up with Pablo Marinus, "Perhaps what once was, is no more, but shall be again!" Meaning that Pablo Marinus was a hero in a great war and was suppose to be a test subject but it was a failure experiment and he died and erased from the group which is no more. But then he returned in Tag Der Toten being alive as a hermit and revealed himself being a hero.
Yeah, I will never ever accept that it's primis Nikolai, it just isn't. It was 100% suppost to be pablo, it just makes so much sense, and when kino released primis didn't even exist
It's pablo, and I'm not excepting anything else. It has all of richtofen's test subjects, and the one that supposedly died got blacked out. It makes the most sense, idc what anyone says
I’ve always thought it was either Pablo or Viktor Reznov. Maybe even Peter McCain, I know it wouldn’t make sense for him to have a portrait in a Nazi facility, but I mean it wouldn’t make sense for Takeo, Nikolai or Dempsey to have one either
9:53 Pablo is the 5th picture
While I think it's Pablo as well, the black outline looks almost exactly the same as the Richtofen outline in Five
Sounds like a rip off bible verse
Takeo getting raped by the spiders has gotta be the most wild one tbh
What?
@@Agent-Maine1523 Oh boy, you weren't around when Zetsubo was coming out...
@@karabiner002this man speaks no lies
😅😅
40 minutes? Yes please
Literally as I saw the vídeo LoL
Exactly what I said
What a legend
@TonyHibbothat’s what she said (what is a woman)
@@greenymcarmorthat’s what she said ( it’s a mythical creature )
If you notice whilst going through the water tunnel or the “worm hole” it starts off as an icy tunnel and half way through, the ice is gone and it is just rock. I think this infers you are travelling to Phobos.
My theory is the reason you can only see Mars when you go through the ice tunnel and the music video shows Tag Der Toten in Phobos is because Tags a pocket dimension that coexists inside the interior of Phobos similar to Alcatraz. When you go through the tunnel you see mars through a rift and loose interior of the hollow moon.
Only in a zombies video could someone say: "There's a very easy explanation for that: Time travel!"
11:13 I actually believe the answer changed over time. Even though it’s meant a fourth wall breaking joke, Ultimis Dempsey’s quote in response to this Easter Egg is kind of telling about it:
“Dang it Treyarch! Are you messing with the storyline again?!”
Remember, aspects of the story changed over time due to multiple reasons, like the switching of lead directors & budget issues.
the silhouette painting is the player, since developers like to sometimes do things like that. like in the credits they sometimes say
"and you" like the player who plays the game. it just makes the most sense imo
Or some of the other mentioned male characters in bo1 and before
The blank portrait was 100% supposed to be Pablo back in the day. I only say this because the first and only reference for quite some time of him was from call of the dead. Which is a couple dlcs later, not to mention that call of the dead was planned during WAW.
I have heard the Pablo and peter theory for many years. Insane, we still don’t know.
who said call of the dead was planned during waw ?
@@daboydudus3912 Treyarch themselves, and you can see a picture of it along with a couple other maps in der reise.
@@daboydudus3912 I did, for I am the lord
@@daboydudus3912they had several maps planned that ended up as bo1 maps including a shore or beach map that became COTD and a Paris map which got reworked into Moon
I always assumed the blank portrait in og kino was supposed to represent the player
no… you are playing as one of the 4 og characters
@@darius-ogi think you entirely missed the point of his assumption brother. even dempsy acknowledges the player as a separate entity in Kino voice lines
@@earlyexit38 that means nothing
@@darius-og ??? i’m just reinforcing his assumption as a possibility brother, what could you possibly be on about?
@@darius-oghow does that mean nothing? it disproves your argument lol
I still think Tank should’ve been the one to take Kronorium. They were hinting that Tank was special the whole series only to give it to drunk Russian 2.0.
Nikolai was the only one who still had his soul
Nikolai was Jason’s favorite, no way it’d be Tank
@@joeosullivan2000 they did that for bo4. But even up to bo3 they were hinting that Tank would be the one to get things done or atleast lived the longest. One of the hardest cyphers ever found to this day revolves around tank.
Same, I base the characters off their World at War orders:
Player 1: Dempsey
Player 2: Nikolai
Player 3: Takeo
Player 4: Richtofen
It always felt odd to me that Player 2 would become the main character imo
@@yourbestpallshawn4139Meh, not really. In the giant when you PaP as Richtofen he says something about how their “salvation may lie solely on Tank”, then goes on to say… “or was it Nikolai.. or Takeo? I never remember.”
Anyone else think Phobos and Deimos could relate to Phoebe and Dempsey? Like that's where they got the name for Phoebe, because of the similarity of their names
its 5 am and i got nothing better to do than thinking bout cod zomb conspiracies
Quick theory: Dempsey is Misty's great grandfather. Let's say Dempsey's daughter gets married and has a son. She would probably tell that son about her her father was a marine, which would have inspired him to become a marine. He then gets married, and one of his children is Misty.
I’m a simple man. When BOA posts a video, I watch it.
I agree
We can't say with certainty that Treyarch hadn't thought up the Primus crew when Kino released
Hell WAW had a song in its files about Jeb building the PAP machine and that wasn't revealed until BO2
It isn't insane to think that some of these "unsolvable" eggs are only unsolvable because there is still information Treyarch is sitting on
This man brings a massive point that is very valid.
I always thought the Kino portrait was Peter McCain. Not sure what a picture of him would be doing there, but that's what my friends and I always thought
At first I don’t think it was anything much but I’m black ops 3 they wrote it as the other Mexican soldier test subject
@@JB-kx1grit’s primis Nikolai
@jacobfleming3926 it is not Nikolai, it was 100% pablo. Primis Nikolai didn't even exist when Kino released
I always used to think it was the mysterious silhouette from the Nacht Der Untoten BO1 screen.
Hey Peter McCain…. How’s it hanging?
Demsy couldn't have been born in the 1890s, he is a pfc in the United States Marine Corps. He wasn't allowed to pick up Corporal or Sargent because of hazing. Even if he had been a Sargent, he would have only been around 24 or 25. The only way around this is if he joined later in life gowever if he was born in the 1890s he would have been too old to join the USMC. I am myself a retired Marine.
So when would he have been born if that’s the case?
@@tommerriman2052 1901
@@tommerriman2052 most likely during or post world war one (1914-1918) and before the great depression (1929-1939)
For me, the only thing I'm still thinking about among all conspiracies is Emilia name in Kino Der Toten, maybe in the future we will see that name.
Where was this?
The way the the crew died could have been so much better. Like them sitting there with blood pooring from there eyes doesn’t seem like a very fun way to go out. Especially if you’ve been fighting zombies for a couple years straight.
I agree. After so many maps, so many dollars and so many game overs it would have been nice to see them succeed and be a to go back to a normal life. Yeah you could write it that nobody ever would know what they did for them, but that's fine because the DID it.
I think it's a lot more of a full circle, as in the game you play and die in an endless loop and when you come back you have more knowledge of how to do what the characters really did as they didn't die in the story(duh) but in the end the only way to truly win was to die all along like we've been doing as players and just end it all
@@gevaudongames1553just kind of sounds like a lame ending. “Well none of this actually matters because it’s actually an endless loop!”
I think they were probably teasing adding a 5th player to zombies with the portraits, it’s pretty obvious they thought about it before.
I think it’s either rictofen (bo1) or it is meant to be the player.
TBH i believe the Kino portrait hasn’t been touched yet because they are using it for when they really need to, like they could make it Cold War Richthofen if they wanted to
I feel like the people who are working on zombies now doesnt know kino even exists. I'm gonna always say it's Pablo
Keep dreaming kiddo
You think it’s possible that Tank had Misty during one their many travels? There are countless dimensions so the variation of her “daddy” dying could simply have been an alternate Dempsey. The same way Richtofen stated that the version of Tank that had his soul taken had no important knowledge to impart meaning it’s possible that our characters could’ve lived very different lives like Dimension 2210 Eddy. In their final moments, Dempsey was asked what he really wanted and he said he wanted to live a simple life and hang up his boots and train recruits. My theory is that an alternate Dempsey had a child while time traveling which would distort the age gap of Tank and Misty. Share your thoughts please!
It's still an insane theory but that's what I thought as well with how heavy the story is on multiverses and different dimensions.
I like it. I don't believe it but I like it.
The painting was confirmed to be Pablo when tag came out I thought. Always liked the idea of it being Peter McCain too
The black portaits in original kino were made by people who were not involved with bo3 zombies at all. The idea that the black portrait represented a multiverse timeline of a character that was already there is absolutely not the case.
The bo3 zombies screen is them chillin in the dark aether. Before they sadly turn into decrepit monsters, which is pretty much confirmed to have happened to the transit crew.
dont tell doomguy about the demonic zombies on phobos, hes dealt with them once, he probably won't wanna do it again
The black portrait still may be an un-done easter egg I think 🤔
If that was the case the real portrait would have been data mined from the pc version
@@secretjake i see
@@isaiahsmith5712that’s not always the case tho, there are we still being found in bo 3 thst went undiscovered after years despite being data mined
I like the idea of the portrait being pablo. It makes too much sense. It being primus Nikolai is really kind of dumb.
About Shangri-la, it is believe that in moon when you teliport to moon you go to the future meaning it can be a thing that is happening, because time travel and teliporting are linked
I would believe tank would was Misty's great, great grandfather and had a family of marines
tbh i think that the silhouette portrait on kino is might be someone from the verruckt crew. Peter McCain perhaps
"How do we tell the fans directly, without question, that Tag is on Phobos?" "Release a video with a lighthouse on phobos." *the fans still theorizing years later*
A problem with call of the dead is the ship, if pablo can't leave how could they and go back and forth
Personally what I think happened is whilst they were filming the rod made a bubble around the area of cotd and transported it to Phobos which is why no one could find George or the crew
And it would also explain how those zombies just came out of nowhere because obviously they set everything up like the cameras and the mics without finding a single zombie because they only came out when the ultimus crew were teleported there and in doing so the rod teleported the area to Phobos
10:40 - I always just thought it was us the player, we aren’t a character but just as mush involved as they are 💁
With the kino pictures why dont people acknowledge the one on the ground after the blank one and the few that sre in the spawn upstairs where the zombies spawn from on the right side in the back? Am I the only one who thinks about all of them and not just the one?
Who’s the dead zombie next to the juug/speed machine on Shang I’ve always wondered if he has any significance
I haven’t watched BOA in a while I used to watch him so much my freshman and sophomore year😂😂
Pretty sure glitching queen or someone else posted a video that showed what the exact steps were for the tag “flinger” ee. The steps were found years later.
The mars theory is the reason I love zombies and sad things are they way they are now. So much of the content we've gotten has come from devs listening to the community speculate! Glad i was part of that era that was able to experience zombies for the first time ever!
Do you think that brock and Garry and Sally should be a Crew to play as in a map
i really had to check what playback speed i was watching this at
i remember i used to watch u everyday man i just got a ps3 again to play bo2 and you pop again 😂
Shout out to Raheem only real ones remember him with the OG conspiracy videos
Bo3 Home Screen is the forest near Nacht and is the same as the tag cutscene forest
This was really interesting thanks for making my night!
My take is the blank portrait in kino is it represents you the player as you are technically the fifth member of the crew viewing the story through the actions of what ever of the 4 characters the game chooses to put you as and because you aren't actually in the game but playing it you become a part of it and the blank portrait could be the representation of this maybe I'm wrong but seeing as the stories for the offshoot timelines weren't yet thought of maybe this theory is plausible
These two maps as a result of Element 115 experiments have destabilised these two map locations in space and time and shift between past/future and present. Also since the Earth wasn’t in the same point in space in the distant past/future naturally the locations would imprint themselves onto the planets that were currently occupying these particular points space at the point in time they would appear in the distant past..
TL;DR: These two Zombie Map Locations are basically just Quantum Slipping through Time..
I so miss that in the very beginning in this video... Brings back the old school nacht der untoten since cod world at war zombies... Ahhh great times
Ur videos are fire!
Love your video BOA and these theories are good
More long form content please 🙏
Odd question:
Where are zombies supposed to come from? Like on moon for instance, Is the implication that the thousands of zombies coming for you are all scientists and astronauts who were at the moon and turned to zombies?
Or do they just spawn in thin air like they do in the game? But like with some sorta magic essentially to explain how they spawn from nothingness
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They sent out soldiers from both sides of the war for experiments so had all moon to dispose bodies with where re animated by the element 115
I think that because of the Tag Der Toten music video, the BO3 loading/menu screen could be Tunguska
So it is possible that Dempsey may be a grandparent to Misty? Or could they be related at all?
The silhouette is the same as ultimus richtofen, he just wanted people to see him while also think about who he represents
that start sound is music to my ears
Wouldn’t the more obvious answer be that the meteors are from Mars/its moons so when it’s properties active it links back to Mars ?
i think there was gonna be a another person from waw
imagine that boat from tag der toten was the boat from the chaos crw when they road away from the tatanic or whatever
from that mars easter egg
Could victis crew be the gods in vanguard zombies
No. Everything evil was sent back where it originated, and the 2 pure souls walked into the new universe(Samantha and Eddie in Bo4) after Nikolai wished for the Multiverse to end while creating a new brand new one for the Children, "His comradres" before he poisoned the rest of Ultimis and Primis, and sent Victis on their Suicide mission. He then gave Samantha a gun and had her shoot him.
about the Kevin Sherwood video for Tag - it could be that the lighthouse in the rock represents Tag taking place in near the Tunguskan river - also a reference to the original Tunguska meteorite of Element 115 that’s referenced on Shi No Numa
Is black ops tryna warn us about soming in real life?? 😅
Makes me so sad the cod zombies is in tatters. They need to bring back a set crew we can emotionally invest in and have a storyline that doesn't just seek like a military campaign with a twist.
I think the blank one looks exactly like reznov
Why would he have to test if they had souls? Was the shadow man and the apothicons looking for the kronorium? And if so why would they need it?
You can't gloss over time travel like that, and we know the Dr was jumping through timelines/dimensions. Totally possible Tank is Misty's dad. If you can move tubes of blood between dimensions then you can move people or alter timelines. Lots of possibilities
Nice content. I've always felt compelled to pursue the greatest interests of mankind, to wit. A way to be influential, powerful and protected. always felt the need to be recognized wherever i go, not because i am proud or clamorous but because of who i am and what i represent. The inner me is gasping to find out more knowledge about the human race and about the things that not everyone is destined to know. I wish to blossom into the enlightenment that our forebears wanted so desperately for us to gain.
well i think your feeling is kinda understandable, it's really just you been human. If you really seek enlightenment you can achieve that and so much more by joining the Illuminatus Brotherhood. I know it sounds mythical, but there are ways you can actually get in
oh really? is it even possible to become a member? i always thought it's meant for certain people in the upper class.
yeah that's intentional, i mean that's what they actually want you to think. if you need to get more illuminated on the subject, look up Anthony Rogers Szymon. Will help you get more clarity and answers.
That's great. Thanks so much for the reference, I just looked him up and left him a message already.
The strange looking rock could be one that has element 115
I think the misty quote and mars Easter egg in tag were more just lil nods from the developers on the most popular fan theories more so then an actual confirmation of either
We know the forest is where the go after Gorod Krovi and before Revelations, Monty says this about it in the "Official Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 / Treyarch - Dr. Monty" trailer, " "This is it. The aether. The infinite. The reality beyond.", to me it sorta seems like a gateway between Earth and Agartha.
The portrait could've been pablo, peter or maxis? Or treyarch just put it there to keep us asking questions?
I always thought the blank portrait looks like the silhouette of Reznov. It doesn’t make sense but it looks like him a little bit 🤷🏻♂️
Finally something i can watch & eat to.
First time ive ever seen that swim to mars easter egg that had me floored that was wild
I've played treyarch zombies since WAW But Mostly Bo3, never heard of the empty Earth sounds cool
The light from a shore video has a lot of like symbolic scenes, theres one with the house then the house but the trees are burnt and stuff. I think the whole video is symbolic and matching the tone of the music. also that rock could be a representation of element 115, since that is what our whole story started with.
But i do like the part about eclipse mode shang being on mars, but not tag. I think that ee is more so a call back to the old theory. what with looking at mars and hearing shang's loading music, and the fact that you aren't supposed to see tag from there should mean tag at least is in fact on earth, then you get a black loading screen to go back to the map
Pretty simple the guy tries to leave as he checks behind and tag is in the distance he eventually walks straight back into it because he’s doing a lap of a moon 18k kilometers could take someone 3 hours to walk so he feels like he’s getting away then he gets back to the same part of the moon he began with think that alone and the fact the music video has a picture of the moon and the fact that u can see mars through the tunnel is enough evidence that it’s on the moon did u just ignore the video when u watched itV
@@tommerriman2052 the Easter egg is very clearly poke fun at that old theory, to get it was so unknown and hard to trigger.
@@Z0MB1ESLAYER115 clearly not when they specifically edited the textures of the moon and added a second moon into Shangri La first
Misty could be a great grandchild of dempsey and maybe dempsey’s daughter had a child who she told stories to about her dad(dempsey) and how he fought in the war and then this child of dempsey’s daughter decided to join the marines like dempsey where he eventually then had a daughter who turned out to be misty.
The lineage goes:
Dempsey->Dempsey’s daughter->son->Misty
There could be an extra parent/child here between dempsey’s daughter and Misty
I think the the black portrait in bo1 is just one of the devs and was nothing more then a little meaningless easter egg until later on.
One thing about the misty theory that I don’t think we talk about is what if tank is Misty’s not father but grand father.
Edit. Cause he had a girl, who would have likely gotten married (possibly a marine) taken her husbands name and then had misty
Dempsey is Misty's great grandfather or great x2
18:39 I mean we got Nacht in Transit so it’s not out of the ordinary to be teleported to mars every now and again lmao.
Very very good video. Love cod zombies
Whats good boa!
😮💨😮💨i know paul... 😮💨😰i know...
"Why would a picture of a German Scientist be in the pentagon?"
Operation Paperclip
Month existed all the way back in WAW. Monty’s perk machines.
aaaaah yes i also have a giant picture of my double agent sitting in the main mantle of my living room. bro wtf.
I still think it's possible for Dempsey to be her dad. Especially since time travel is a big thing. Why can't her mom never tell her about her dad especially if he jus ups and vanishes because he time travels nd wld vanish without any trace
14:02 maybe Misty is related to Tank, but not how everyone thinks. What is she is his granddaughter or great granddaughter?
What if Peter is Misty's dad, him and Dempsey both seemed close and maybe they basically act the same and that's why misty sorta acts like him. I'm sure I'm wrong but it's just a thought.
The black portrait could be victor reznov judging by the facial structure
@16:35 I totally forgot about peter. Where the hell did peter go after nuketown. Bro said he had something to to and treyarch completely forgot about it come tag der toten.
I kind of feel stupid that no one's ever thought of the possibility of Misty being a granddaughter or a great-granddaughter after all if tank depcy had a daughter she would probably take her husband's last name which could explain the last name difference
Damn right. Don’t fuck with a Marine!!!! Errahhh!!!! 😏😏🫡
please make another one of these
FSR I feel like a Black Ops Amazing OG and anybody remember the old intro song he had which was paint it back by the rolling stones anybody remember that?
Wait, people didn't know Shangri-la was near the Himalayas??? I knew that within the first month the map released. Since the orginal Zombies story was based on real life things the Nazis did. One of those things was travelling to that region of the world to look for the orginal Arayan race. Which I assumed was the inspiration behind the map.