It's amazing how much misinformation is out there. When I went WFPB, leaving a diet of fatty junk food, I had people saying all of these things to me: "If you eat too much fruit, which is full of sugar, you'll get diabetes" "You'll get fat eating a lot of potatoes and rice" "You won't get enough protein, not eating meat" "You won't get enough calcium, not drinking milk", ...and so on and so on. But I'm much healthier now and have lost nearly 20Kgs of surplus weight, and I'm nearly down to the upper limits of my ideal weight range, after just a couple of months of WFPB eating. My cholesterol is back down to a safe range, my liver is healthier and less fatty, I have more energy, no more B.O. or bad breath, far less chance of developing diabetes, as per test markers, my resting heart rate is a lot lower, since my heart doesn't have to work as hard pushing gluggy, fat-loaded blood around my body, etc. No one used to caution me about all the junk food I used to eat, when I was on a diet that was leading me to an early grave.
Dr McDougall speaks sense. A year I started following a diet that is based on his recommendations - a whole food plant based diet with a focus on unprocessed and unrefined foods - and I lost over 40 kg over the year. The diet is filling as it's high in fibre, and I don't get any more cravings because I feed my body enough nutrients. In the past, I used to get constant hunger because the diet was full of nutritionally depleted convenience foods and junk food, and the body was screaming for more food because it wasn't getting enough micronutrients. After I tossed out meat, cheese and processed foods, I have found it surprisingly easy to stick to the diet. I have lost my taste for highly salted and sugary foods, and have cut down the salt, sugar and fat intake drastically. I recently cut the fat intake even further - down to 20-25% fat - and feel even better. And the weight continues to drop off. Every other diet I ever tried was a failure because I was still eating nutritionally deficient processed foods, and my body was in a constant state of malnutrition, hence the cravings. This is why prepackaged, calorie-controlled diet foods and programs fail: they are based on highly processed and often very depleted of nutrients, resulting in constant hunger. What matters is the quality of the food, not the quantity. And eating more fruit and veggies means you can really fill up without blowing up the calorie bank. These days I eat mostly whole foods, except for a couple of condiments, hummus, plant milks and whole wheat pitas. The rest is mostly fruit, veggies and beans. No soft drinks, no pastries from the local bakery, no frozen packaged meals, no takeaways for lunch, no fast foods for dinner. Just foods cooked mostly from scratch. The "secret" to a successful weight loss diet is that ridiculously simple: eat real food.
"From the lips to the hips, the fat you eat is the fat you wear" - BOOM! Classic McDougall dropping truth bombs for 40 years ;) Thanks for sharing Jeff.
+Natalia Echiburu Yes, I find the 5% fat a lot of vegans consume to be extreme..10-20% fat and about the same amount or a bit more protein (not animal) is perfect. Two thirds carbohydrates is satisfying enough.
+Muldeeer I eat tahini peanut butter hummus avocado those types of fats and some nuts n seeds I just don't go crazy with serving size. It makes me feel satisfied. I just now cook oil free or use a skim of coconut oil if I need to
+Natalia Echiburu I think he means it for people who need/want to lose weight. You don't need the extra fat when you're trying to lose weight, but a small percentage of healthy fats, not oils, won't hurt you when you're at your ideal weight.
It's about nutrients, movement and sleep. Doesn't matter what 'macros'. I personally like a good balance! The ONLY no no is eating highly refined carbs AND fats in high quantities at the same time, pizza, cake etc.
I agree with a lot of what Dr Macdougall says but this hasn't been my experience. I've lost a lot of weight cutting refined sugar out of my diet. The problem is, is when people combine fat with sugar.
I ate a big bowl of cheese and rice once. It's been 10 years and my colon doesn't work right. Now I'm allergic to cow cheese and milk and butter and whey and cookies and cakes and ice cream and candy bars and doughnuts and anything that has even traces of milk in it Thanks cheese and rice!
the FAT you eat is the FAT you wear! Common sense ... and it's hard to believe that I'd somehow not understood this simple reality, until recently. RIP, dear sir !
How can you lose fat when in order for your body to go into fat burning mode you have to deplete your stores of glycogen? Carbohydrates replenish those stores...
It makes me laugh that all the weenies say "you can't just eat infinite amounts of sugar and not get fat"! Who sits on their ass all day and eats 4-5000 cals from bananas or rice? I am very active and still struggle to hit 3000 cals a day from high carb whole foods. When did "eat as much as you want" turn into "eat as much as you possibly can"?
It's possibly partially true but NOT the full picture. I think more research needs to be done in this area. Durianrider/Freelee absolutely go against this theory. I was skeptical of them but have lost 15kg myself since January doing exactly what they & Dr. McDougall recommend so it can't be all about the calories. I only do 20-40 minutes a day on my bike so there's no way i'm at a deficit ever.
I've done vegan and I've tried eating meat. I think I really don't care for meat anymore. So now I'll eat taters,beans, bread,berries, stuff like that. Oh,and rice. Also lots of greens and SMOOTHIES!!!!! Love Dr MacDougall.
I am a vegan: no dairy; no animal products. But donuts and cookies and cane sugar are not good for you either. I eat fruit and potato’s and sometimes rice and beans and also non gmo corn. But those are good carbs. Pastries and loads of table sugar do contribute to obesity and cancer just like animal products do.
People in the comments are saying he is lying, well I'm on the high carb / sugar diet for 2 years now and it took me a year to prove he is telling the truth, the body runs on sugar, I can't do anything on fat and the sugar only has made me really lean. Make sure it's vegan though
I only just recently found Dr. McDougall online here. What he says in this video is the complete OPPOSITE of what Ketogenic diet speakers say about carbohydrates, sugar, and dietary fat; very confusing. Somebody is wrong. Or maybe they are BOTH correct - meaning weight loss and health benefits will occur with BOTH a high carb/low fat (starch) diet, and also with the opposite - a high fat/low carb ketogenic diet. But not with high carb and high fat at the SAME time in the same meal. I wonder if there is an unbiased, science-based video that addresses and explains the conflicting information.
@@doctormanganate5814 thanks for your reply. Yes, keto speakers say a high fat diet reverses type 2 diabetes, but Dr. Mcdougall says that dietary fat is what causes the diabetes in the first place because fat paralyzes insulin, the fat also clogs insulin receptors, and then the insulin can't get in, thus causing diabetic insulin resistance.
Dr. McDuguall should say unrefined complex carbohydrates starches or complex starch instead of saying sugar. Many people commenting here can't distinct refined sugar vs complex unrefined starch/carbohydrates and posting stupid angry comments. These two are very different foods. Well, refined sugar isn't food though. However, some of people commenting agitated what are they really eating that make them such aggressive and angury anyway? People, if you don't like to eat McDuguall way, just don't.
That's one of the reasons it's so hard to discuss this with people, most need to educate themselves more before speaking. BTW, a lot of these 'high carb' unrefined foods have a lot of fat, so it's useless to talk with them when they're making these assertions.
I think this is the opposite of what many people teach about keto and low carb diet. Does sugars not increase insulin, is insulin not a fat storage hormone, does it not cause the excess to be stored as fat?
Man I wish I listened to people like this instead of meatheads/ gymrats .. Growing up I was fed so many lies and i ate it all up. Why does the truth always seem like the lie? Lol. Well im older now and i have gone Vegan! its been 3 weeks. In just the 3 weeks alone my body fat has dropped significantly i am very active btw.. I store most of my fat in my lower stomach and chest. Yes moobs. I cant believe how fast my moobs are going away after trying to get rid of them for years!!...based on the progress I believe in two months the moobs will be completely gone so just 5 more weeks to go! Which is such a short amount of time to get rid of a problem FOREVER. I was made for this "diet" more like lifestyle!! Thats how I feel. I dont even miss meat.. The only thing I sometimes fiend for is cheese...but of course Im not going to eat it. I see cheese as a drug now its very addicting and I wont Ever eat it again. My breathing is so much better and my energy is up. I am now eating MORE than what I was before when i ate a typical "healthy" diet and even though the volume of food I eat is up I am still dropping fat and retaining and growing muscle. I am more open minded about trying almost anything as long as it is vegan, healthy and is a whole food. I could go on and on about how this has changed my life! Usually though I dont get too far with people when they find out im a vegan. People have told me to my face they would prefer to eat steak even if they knew it would shortened their life by 5 years.Because they want to enjoy the "good" things in life.... WHAT!? So now that Im vegan People think I act like "above" them or that I act like my shit doesnt stink...no matter what I wont act like I am better than anyone!! But my poop literally does not stink haha
This guy is an assclown....an evil one at that....also a David horowitz stunt double. I eat fatty meats and sugars from soda to capn crunch to pork chops with buttery smashed potatoes to cheeseburgers and it's impossible for me to gain a single lbs....I am also a powerlifter so maybe it's more to do with my eating frequency than actually what I eat...I eat 6-8 times a day...not alot becuz typically when I eat alot, I get very sleepy so lots of eating during the day but just enough to restore my cells with nutrients from every direction...I been at 251lbs for almost 6 years.....muscle comes hard especially at 52 years of age but my p.r. a week ago was a 600 lbs squat....muscle gain for most people is 2-3 lbs a year...I'm Scandinavian and half native American so I've always been naturally strong strewn with fast twitch muscles with an inclination to drinking liquor until mummified...my point is that I been sober for 9 years and nothing else.
@@shawndayvis6169 You've developed a theory based on your own anecdotal experience, whereas this doctor (not a layman like you or me) based his theory off of actual peer-reviewed research studies, direct work with thousands of patients over several decades, and thorough medical training. If you think you're smarter than him, that makes you the "assclown," ma'am.
@@RT-vw6yw well, he has been disputed by everyone already as well. Sugar is worse than fat atm because of the over excessed amounts placed in our foods. Eaten fat is different than fat you keep on your body, it doesn't just automatically goes on to you body fat when ingested like he says. Anything in access becomes fat.
@@davidwirth2716 but there is a way to prevent that on a high complex carb/fiber diet. U have to cut out ALL junk food carbs and high fat foods and you can lose fat while on a high complex carb diet. It just takes ALOT of strict moderating
I really want to believe this but.. After the introduction of low fat products in the 70s the western world have only gotten fatter. Also the sugar you eat but dont burn off immediately afterwards is stored as fat - where else would it go..
this video is a scam...next thing you know they'll say that the way to cure diabetes is by eating ice cream and jelly donuts...when insulin levels are high good luck trying to lose weight...it makes no sense to eat high carb low fat...look at all the illnesses that exist now since eliminating dietary fats and replacing them with carbs...anyway, there is no point in debating these high carb low fat fanatics as they are part of the global agenda to keep people fat and sick so that the corporate elites can keep their pockets fat with all the money that they make in the pharmaceutical industry...if everyone is healthy there won't be any customers to sell their destructive drugs too...
Total lie., sugar, Refined carbohydrates packaged processed Foods are the Major cause of fat gain, Not Fat. he does not Talk About Role of insulin in sugar storage to cause obesity.
Wait? So you did lose weight on carnivore(with fat?) and then you ate some carbs and got fat again? I thought this guy just said it works the opposite way?
I just read the title and to me this is very wrong. A world famous cardiologist says: "Fat doesn't make you fat, but sugar and starch do", as they can cause heart disease, stroke and diabetes. High calories is ok, what the problem is high carb. That can cause many health problems.
I was 220 pounds heavy three months ago. I tried for years and years doing diets, always cutting fat intake, going to the gym. Nothing worked. Finally I started eating a lot of fat: Butter, coconut oil, olive oil, bacon, eggs, and I completely stopped eating flour and sugar... I lost 50 pounds in two months. Went from size 38 pants to size 31. I went to the Doctor to make sure I was OK, did a full panel blood work, and I am perfectly healthy. There are thousands of testimonials like mine all over the place. Now I am going to reduce my fruit intake to avoid some sugar and shed the little belly fat I have left. I think Dr. Mc Dougall is totally wrong.
To me it's pretty fucking effective and I feel pretty fucking great to have lowered my blood sugar and cholesterol... What really sucks are miserably obtuse minded people.
So you think the cure to an unhealthy diet and lifestyle leading to obesity is a very unhealthy diet? Weight loss over a few months is pretty easy. I've seen my brother, uncle, cousins and friends all singing the praises of the Atkins diet for the first year, but give it some time. In 2 years I predict you'll gain it all back.
I never mentioned that I was obese. You are assuming things. I was overweight for my height, but in decent athletic shape: I was able to do 8 chin ups at that point. Now I'm getting close to my ideal weight, Today I can do 15 chin ups. (My goal is 20, my record is 28). Also, I never really explained my diet nor I said It was going to stay the same. What I do say is this: 1.Some fats are unhealthy but other fats are very healthy. 2. Eating fat won't make you fat. 3.Carbs make you gain weight, so eat them in moderation, and combined with lots of fiber.
You said you lost 50 pounds, so either you lost too much weight, or you were obese. At my heaviest I was 25 pounds over my ideal weight, I considered myself borderline obese. Carbs don't make you gain weight, excess calories do, the weight stored is from dietary fat. And fiber is only found in plant foods, almost all (except nuts, seeds, avocados) derive the majority of calories from carbohydrates, which is why low carb= low fiber.
somehow people think that just eating sugar is going to cause you to gain all this extra weight. from a standpoint of weight, it's burned the same. from a health standpoint, too much of it can cause irritability and issues down the line.
Hm...personally not agree with you. My blood sugar levels and blood pressure was very high. But when I removed sugar, fruitose and refined processed food, the levels came back down to normal in 4 months and lost 12 lbs without the thoughts of loosing weight!!! My doc was surprised and no longer insisting meds for me.
Most people do unless you restrict fat to unhealthy levels and want to live off of rice and fruit the rest of your life. I personally feel better eating a grassfed steak and greens.
I thought for sure he would propose to eat only unrefined cellular complex carbohydrates (beans, cold potatoes, chick peas etc.) That could be successful for people. But then he just flat out tells us that sugar is fine and excess sugar will get burned off as energy. Are you kidding me? If any of that were true then most people are currently on the perfect diet. Yet obesity and diabetes have sky rocketed. It is super easy for your body to turn sugar into fat by the way. That is not debatable.
Actually not. Sugar doesn’t turn to fat in humans under normal circumstances, only when you overeat more than 1000 calories from carbs several days in a row. When you overeat carbs, you store the fat that you eat with those carbs
Too much sugar gives me headaches. I try to avoid it. But if I can't, one cup water with 1T apple cider vinegar takes care of it. No headaches, no I'll effects. Glucose stays lower... I've measured. Best thing EVER.
I'm trying a high-carb low-fat diet at the moment for athletic performance purposes and I don't hold any ideological views on diet, however the mantra 'the fat you eat is the fat you wear' couldn't be more wrong in practice and I was one of a rapidly growing grow of low-carb dieters who had amazing fat-loss results consuming a high fat diet. I don't believe carbs are evil, but I 100% know that for fat-loss, fat isn't either.
I'm with you on not being evangelical about one thing or the other. I'm not sure McDougall's take is on it, but from what I've read and from my own experience fat alone won't make you fat as it barely (if at all) raises insulin, therefore there's no 'storing mode' in play. So if you ate a mostly fat diet and anything else you ate caused only very low insulin responses, then hardly any of the fat consumed would be stored away. There simply isn't enough insulin around to enable it to be stored. It'll be used for energy or excreted out if in excess. You could also do a 'fat fast' where you only consume fats but limit the calorie intake. I've done this a few times but gave up soon as I felt rubbish, probably due to the reduction in calories and basically drinking olive oil straight and eating chunks of butter wasn't really pleasant. However the fat fast would work for weight loss (before the metabolism slowed down) as long as you could maintain the low calorie intake. In these regards I agree with you 100%. Where I differ is that consuming high fat becomes a problem when combined with high carbs. When more insulin is around (not necessarily overly 'high', but it will be present when carbs are consumed) then it's not just that fat will automatically be stored, but it will be when there is an excess of calories. The excess fat won't be excreted like with a fat fast, but will be stored because 'storage mode' has been activated. You could easily combine carbs and fats (and of course many naturally occuring foods contain both) and not put on any extra weight as long as you were only consuming your daily calories needs. You could also combine carbs and fats and reduce calories, but like with the fat fast reducing calories too much can cause problems. For me I get where this guy is coming from with the Starch solution. It does make logical sense, just as intaking only fat also does. The problem I found when I tried eating only starch was that it was cumbersome to get my daily calorie needs in from eating only starch. I had to eat a ton and I felt bloated from the bulk of the food. I would personally say it is more pleasant to consume only fat as it's a lot simpler to get close to or reach (if you just want to maintain) your daily calorie needs. However both approaches are boring and limiting both in terms of satisfaction and also denies us many natural food sources that contain lots of good stuff our body's want (which is in itself where the feeling of satisfaction is derived). So what is the solution? Or at least one other possible solution. Well obviously insulin isn't just a fat storing hormone, it does many things including getting energy into cells. Say the cells need X amount of energy per day. Let's say X is 100. Now you consume carbs and fats but only give your cells 90. Insulin won't store fat just because carbs are consumed too, because the body isn't that stupid to simply store fat when it can be used for energy that is needed right here and now. There are many prominent people who believe this to be the case, but it makes no sense to me nor has it played out in my experience. I have simply never put on weight by consuming fats with carbs as long as my daily calorie needs haven't been exceeded. The key is to reduce calories (and care not an iota about macro ratio's, just eat whatever feels satisfying and trust your body to know what it wants) a little at a time. An overweight body only needs a certain daily calorie intake to maintain because (and this is a basic way of saying it) your body needs that amount of energy to carry a fat body around every day. So yes if you were fat and then suddenly cut your daily calorie needs in half then you'd have half the energy to carry out your usual daily tasks. You would feel rubbish. Some say to push through that, but I disagree. Your body wants to optimize but is built to maintain. The key is to get that balance where you can still function whilst also reducing calories enough so that body fat can be used to make up the numbers. I know what some reading that may ask: "well why wouldn't the body just access the stored fat to make up the numbers if you halved your calorie intake?" Good question. I go back to what I said before, the body is built to maintain its current status. Yes stored body fat can be used to energise you, however that process requires some real time (see 'Mitochondria' if you're interested in that) to adjust. By reducing calorie intake gradually and never feeling anything less than pretty satisfied, ie: going to bed feeling content, then the body can gradually move over to using fat storage in order to optimize. So yes basically during this process you may not be 'optimized', ie: there may well be some 'stress', but a minimal amount of stress is no harm to the body. And yes the body does ultimately want to optimise and it will do once you go easy on it, cut out the extremes, get rid of the 'good' and 'evil' notions and just basically be kinder to yourself. Thanks! :D
@@mikey.1205 Because there are so many sources in this thread that you started pumpkin. You can’t have a study on a group of people that doesn’t exist.. like mermaids or large populations of old low carb dieters
@@Jrobidy2 If there are so many sources, just attach one please - this will back up your claim. I'm not disputing you, just calling out your unreferenced opinion
Well what I suggest is u test the high carb low fat diet for a few weeks and the high fat low carb diet for a few weeks and see for ur self the difference in how u feel and look.i just can't agree with with him because for me I lost a lot of weight on a high fat and a protien and a low carb diet.
I personally already experiemented with a low fat high carb diet guess what? I got fatter and my metabolic syndrome got worse my a1 c went up my energy levels died and my resistance to infections destroyed, I was always getting sick. my hypoglcymic events got worse.I decided right there to not eat a high car low fat diet or restricted calorie diet either ever again.
McDougal is oversimplifying things. The body does not store protein. True. But neither does it DUMP excess protein. Rather, protein that isn't needed for "building materials" is converted to - carbohydrates. Carbs can be stored as glycogen, or converted to fat. Excess protein is converted to fat and stored as fat. Excess carbs are converted to fat and stored as fat. Excess fat is stored as fat. The thing that it is important to note is that ingested carbohydrates are turned into energy more efficiently that proteins, because they can be used more directly. Proteins, on the other hand, have to first be converted to carbohydrates, before their energy can be extracted. Also, this is a process that produces toxic by products that need to be flushed out of the body by the kidneys. So SOME of the proteins are wasted, and flushed out, but the remainder is converted to carbs and stored as either fats in bodily fat storage areas, or as glycogen in the liver. As needed, carbohydrates are converted to lipids and vice versa. Stored lipids (fats) are converted to carbohydrates, as needed, and even water as needed. The carbs are "burned" for energy. I switched from a diet more like that recommended by Dr Fuhrman and my arteries cleared out a bit, my blood pressure went down, but my weight went UP. I removed almost all the lipids from my diet. That's why I think my blood pressure went down. I was able to get off blood pressure pills, with my doctor's agreement. But by cutting down on lettuce, spinach, brocolli, collards, etcetera, and increasing my whole grain maize grits, rice, and potatoes, my weigh went up. I'm going back to eating more greens now, and less rice, mazie and potatoes.
This is crazy talk, the preferred method sumo wrestlers use to bulk up is to eat rice. They get almost all of their calories from carbohydrates, and this guy is saying that the body is bad at turning carbohydrates into fat?? Come on now this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
Incorrect Information - I do keep an open mind to new information. In this case though, I decided to test this theory. I weighed myself one day first thing in the morning, and took my waist measurement. That day I ate a few dozen pieces of spice drop candy. The rest of my diet was exactly the same as the day before because I eat the same foods and quantities pretty much each day. Well, the next morning (again first thing my weight was up 1.6 lbs. and my waist was up 1/4 inch. Now, the nutritional information on the back of the candy package said 0 on everything except carbohydrate. That was 35g and of that 30g was sugar. 0 fat, 0 protein. Thus - it was the sugar that caused the gain in fat. Not fat.
This guy is selling crap die can't believe they are still debating about refined carbs & sugar being the primary causes of majority of western diseases !
I think this short clip comes from a longer presentation that is truncated here. However, he is not referring to processed sugars like what you ate in the candy. He's referring to whole food. Plant-based starches/sugars found in natural foods. Process refined sugars are the enemy. Try repeating your experiment by replacing the foods you eat with plant-based whole foods for one week and see the results.
Its not just about weight. When i went on a keto diet i felt like a gross piece of shit...my skin was gross and greasy, my body odor was terrible, i took painful dumps once every other day which isnt good bcs the colon is absorbing decomposed animal flesh, energy in the gym was shit but i was brainwashed in to thinking it was good and was tired of eating the same damn limited foods. When i went hclf my skin cleared, body odor almost disappeared, energy threw the roof, felt cleared and light after every dump, wide variety of foods. Lost weight on both diets but feel healthier on hclf. I still eat animal protein but very little.
Sorry I don't feel like the question was answered - What happens to the EXTRA carbs not burned? The initial is burned off to "make the machine run" or during exercise. But where is the remainder stored if it is not converted to fat? What if I eat pounds upon pounds of brown rice? All I heard was "that ring is burned through heat or fidgeting."
The problem with saying sugar doesn't make you fat, is that you by extension also have to say that alcohol doesn't make you fat, since fructose and alcohol is processed in the body the same way. Goes to the liver, is either converted to liver sugar or fat, which is why high sugar / high alcohol gives a beer gut. The fat produced in the liver also gets stuck there over time, resulting in a fatty liver for both high alcohol and high fructose, and for the same reason. So this claim is not supported, especially since this guy acts like the fat you eat acts like lego blocks that are directly put into your fat storage, which also has little to no scientific backing, and is not how the body works. Having carbs signal storage makes a lot more sense from an evolutionary perspective aswell, since high amount of carbs were only available in the summer, when food was plentiful, and it would make sense to store fat for later. Also also, using the asian argument is violently uninformed, since asians used to eat brown rice up until recent times, which is vastly different from the mostly starchy white rice. Add to that that asians tend to be less muscular than caucasians, so that they can be fat without having a high BMI, effectively being skinnyfat. Look at an obesity graph of america, look at 1977 when the classic high carb food pyramid was introduced, and explain how people got fatter the year a high carb diet was introduced.
That is exactly how fats and oils get stored. There is no conversion. As for food pyramid, people didn't follow it. Instead fat and meat intake quadrupled. Wake up sheeple.
Beer gut is from the estrogen in beer (from hops). Yes, it has estrogen and men actually believe it's manly to drink it, so stupid. Anyway you're making a lot of assertions without much validity. I'm currently on a HCLF whole food diet and it's stupidly easy to lose weight this way, though that's not the primary reason I'm doing it.
People accept the truth that is the most convenient to them; If someone doesn't want to give up carbs, they'll claim fat is the enemy. If they don't want to give up fat, they'll bring up the big sugar conspiracy. I think the secret to losing weight is to simply stop what you indulge in. If you eat too much sugar, stop. If you eat too much fat, stop. You'll get nowhere if you replace fat with sugar or sugar with fat. Losing weight is about the inconvenience - because if it wasn't about the inconvenience, everyone would be losing weight. Also, people from Asian cultures aren't thinner simply because they eat rice instead of fatty foods, it's because their portion sizes are drastically smaller. A large Japanese coke is a small American.
Contrary to what he says, I switched from a starch based diet to a fat based diet and easily lost 40 pounds in 5 months without feeling hungry. He completely ignores everything besides energy content. Most starch based foods come in forms that allow for much too quick absorption. But of course, be it carbs or fat, if you eat more than you need, you will end up obese.
Alright so how about the insulinogenic effect of carbs? How are you supposed to burn fat when insulin is produced in your body? Also there are examples of several groups of one of the original american tribes who lived off carbs mainly and were overweight or obese even on a calorie deficit? Also what is the problem with storing fat when you burn it at a bigger rate? Fat satisfies you better than any carb and as long as you don't eat more calories than you really need or you exercise while in a stage of ketosis then you would in theory burn fat at a greater rate than you store it, or at least at the same rate. Please contradict me and give me evidence otherwise. I've been on the high carb low fat train for like 7 months and my weight loss plateaud after 3 months with consistent exercise and calorie tracking. It just does not seem to work for me.
+Radu Popescu Pseudoscience in order to sell books is not the same as peer reviewed science. Fat is burned when you are in calorie deficit, regardless of insulin or any particular diet (twinkies and coke will render great results). If you watched the video, then you would realize that carbs are temporarily stored as glycogen for energy but too inefficient to be converted to fat except under extreme circumstances. If you're not overweight, nuts and seeds are great sources of overt fats in small amounts.
+Radu Popescu Have you tried experimenting with alternate macros? I had brain fog and abysmally low energy on an 80/10/10 HCLF diet (no matter how much I ate); but HFLC vegan food gives me energy and immaculate blood tests, and I am perfectly lean. I don't advocate ANY one single macro plan for every single human being because we are all individuals. I've rehabbed myriad orphaned/injured animals, and even each animal is a unique individual with unique needs within their species-specific dietary requirements. So too are we humans. So if HCLF isn't giving you the results you want, try other ideas -- some people do better on higher fat or higher protein. What matters to me is a cruelty-free diet that one can maintain, happily, for life. Vibrant health and good blood tests will show you what macro combination works best for you.
So you did actually lose some weight in the first 3 months? Then surely that proves you DO lose weight eating an abundance on a HCLF diet. When you reach a lower weight it becomes harder to lose more, and you would need to a lot eat less to start losing again.
This diet seems to make people look frail and withered. can anyone share their experience about its effect on strength levels in men? Not talking about "feeling like I have more energy", but actual strength levels.
This has been debunked with the new NuSi study from Kevin Hall. Keto has no metabolic advantage and you don't lose more fat than on a standard diet, you lose more lean body mass and water weight. You're also running in a state of sickness, causing you to lose your appetite, which is a good way to prevent yourself from eating a lot of calories. It's also a good way to die young.
Last year I went heavy on exercising, and changed my diet from junk and processed food to a healthy diet, I was on Moderate to High carbs. Despite exercising a ton (weight lifting and heavy cycling) and droping my body weight a lot to the point dropping more would have made me way too skinny, I never managed to get rid of that layer of fat hanging on my lower belly. But everytime I tried to restrict carbs, that layer would go away after a single week. So you tell me high carbs won't make you fat, I'll trust my judgement.
It depends on your fat intake and TDEE. If someone eats 3000cal with 80-10-10 plus exercise they will likely maintain or lose fat weight. Because 2400cal/600g of carbs was ingested which is also roughly the liver and muscles storage capacity when full *depending on the person/metabolism etc etc. If you give someone with a typical average diet (40-20-40) with a Balance point of 3000cal with 40% carbs 20% protein 40% fat the high fat content makes sticky blood and coats the cells. Insulin cannot get into the cells where sugar is trapped in the bloodstream. This over time leads to insulin resistance aka type2 diabetes as obv weight gain also comes from the storage of fat. If the individual TDEE was originally 3000 on a C40-P20-F40 macro split there was 1040cals from dietary fats / 115grams. It was oxidised though per 24hr cycle to maintain bodyweight or bfat% in this case. Now if we take the same individual and swap the macros for 3000cal @ C75-P19-F6 the individual will be only ingesting 180cals /20grams of dietary fat. The 75% carb intake = 2250cal/4 =562g carbs. Muscle storage + liver storage will be not quite full, and ingested 20g will be oxidised to meet metabolic demands. The protein effort will be similar as before (same macro%) but the heat used throughout the day to deal with the ingested 562g carbs with burn off possibly 1/4th through the liver as temporary Triglycerides. There is a bodyfat deficit from the oxidised adipose tissue by the next day to balance of the 3000cals. The exact amount I cannot say. It will happen though because if someone is maintaining a average bodyfat level say male 20% b.fat weight 80kg ingesting 3000cal...the cleaner blood from high carb very lowfat will use all the sugars up & still be short of energy to meet the 3000cal goal espec when protein is also metabolically demanding. Cheers The switch to C75-P15-F10 @3000cal the body will only temporarily store 300cal/33g of fat then the carbs will fuel the metabolism to arrive at the 2600cal we set earlier...but the remaining carbs will be thermogenically burned off as they dont convert well to fat during de novo lipogenisis. The net result would be 0 actual fat gain on individual whereas scenario one would be 44grams atleast from the fat%
I cut out as much fat as possible when I eat steak, because I don't like the chewy texture. Everything else, I eat in moderation; minus shellfish and pork, which I don't eat for other reasons. I've weighed between 120-130lbs, since 2005. I exercise 3-4 days a week and no, I'm not skinny fat.
i thought that if you only ate a little bit of carbs like 800 calories worth and then the rest or your calories was from fat... then your body will use that fat for energy right? i know that protein isnt used at all for energy, but i didn't think fat was the same as protein as mcdougal is saying. someone help me out?
I think this guy is a sugar fanatic who doesn't say that if you don't burn the sugar first, you won't be able to burn the fat.... so yes, sugar makes you indirectly fat!
i think it depends on the person. i tried the high carb low fat and i was eating very fibrous things but i just never felt satiated and ate a lot and gained 15 pounds very fast. i weighed more on a vegan diet than on my old vegetarian diet. any ways i started to eat more protein like beans and fats like avocados (no oil though) and sure enough it worked! i have this strange theory that because i am a student and my brain is thinking a lot it craves more fats to help my brain cells.
No i was getting way too much calories . trust me this works for me. I dont eat that much fat i am just not as strict with it. And i only eat avocado and nuts but in small amounts. Also i am trying to build muscle so i am eating more than 10 percent protein. Thanks for the advice though but if you read other comments other people had the same issue as me i defenimoty think it dependa on your body. I am still getting the majority of my calories from carbs. I am just not obseessing over things and tracking calories. When i did that i gained weight.
I am a student too. One who spends around 8-12 hours studying per day during the entire year, since I take classes during the entire summer. Eating a massive load of carbohydrates is what has given me all of the energy and brain power to study so hard and do so well in school. Your theory is wrong. Fat clouds the brain. Fat clogs the arteries that lead to your brain thus reducing oxygen flow to your brain. The reason you gained weight with a HCLF diet could come from a host of reasons, but some include stress, lack of sleep, a past of calorie restriction and metabolic damage, and a change in hormones due to a variety of causes. Fat and protein do not supply your brain cells, only glucose does that. Every single cell in your body runs on glucose, especially your brain cells.
+Vegan Power Couple As a student I can assess that although I like the fats from avocado and nuts, it makes my mind foggy and cloudy. As a European the whole wheat bread I eat makes an excellent fuel. Also things like fruits and dates. Excellent fuel! Since this thread is full of students I thought I'd help you out a bit on something else that's also useful: GREEN TEA. Guys, seriously it's amazing. The sheer focus it gives without getting hyper helps a bunch. It has just the right amount of caffeine content + those micronutrients for health.
everyone's metabolism is different. it will be different for men and women, our hormones, our environment, foods available to us. plant-based foods are the best. fats don't make you fat- sugar makes you fat.
Sorry but not everyone is the same. I've eaten his diet and my blood sugar went way up! Now Im carnivore its normal.Get a blood sugar meter and a keytone meter so you know. And 5.6 a1c is not good, you want 5 or lower.
@@fourthtunz 34, but that doesn't matter. My parents are 62 and 74 and neither of them have ever eaten a low carb diet and have never been diabetic or prediabetic and they don't even eat as perfectly as I do. Dr. McDougal and Neal Barnard eat the same way I do and are certainly not diabetic. With the way I eat, it's 100% impossible for me to ever become even prediabetic. My a1c will certainly never go over 5.5 5.2 is the highest I ever had it and the higher carb and lower fat I eat, the lower it gets, now at 4.6.
But it does!! What about the glycemic acid , Fat made from carbs. Fats can come from carb. But one things for sure, If you eat too much of something you are bound to get fat, even if its fruits.
Hes right, but if you eat a caloric deficit, you will not store the fat you eat as fat, or at least you will end up with less body fat after a while. Conversely, if you eat 3000g of carbs a day, a lot of it will get converted to fat unless your body needs that much as fuel.
I'll admit this subject is not my specialty, but I have formally studied many types of science and this is generally not true. The body breaks down you put in it, it does not just move the fat from the food into your body. If a low fat diet works for you then great, but the real issues with obesity came about after a societal rise in sugar consumption. I am not talking about your fruits and ancient grains here, I am talking about the added/ refined sugars found in most foods today. The sugar business has paid scientists or years in order to get them to advertise to the public that fat is the reason people are gaining weight rather than sugar. By cherry picking the data you can very quickly decide that fat is the issue, but if you look at all the research as a whole the culprit is the added sugars. There's nothing wrong with eating a low fat diet if you enjoy it, but substituting fat for processed carbohydrates, like white bread, is only going to put you in an even worse situation.
Fat should be a micro not a marco. Who knows why people got so stupid. One thing I know is that most people around me are eating fatty animal flesh and are FAT, while I am plant only and fit asf.
I agree with him on most things, but if you consume too many carbs you WILL get fat. Example being that even though I follow a plant based vegan diet with fruits, veggies, legumes, and grains and do cardio and resistance training 3-4 times a week, I'm still chubby because I like to party and drink a lot of beer and sweet alcoholic beverages on the weekends.
alcohol destabilizes your metabolism, no issue with the sugar in them. when intoxicated, body stops burning glucose efficiently, that's why you are chubby
+Hailey Grace (Hailz) Alcohol is not a carbohydrate, it's alcohol. Which is basically halfway to fat. Also liquid calories are easy to over indulge on because they contain no fiber.
Fat makes me fat? Weird. I've recently done 2 years of carb-free carnivore diet with a lot of animal fat. Towards the end of the 2 years, I weigh 150 lbs at 5'8''5, with visible abs and muscle definition. Clearly fat is making me fat!
I believe that there is no one-size-fits all. And for me, my body type, starches and sugar did make me fat. When I cut out the grains, white rice, white potatoes, white sugar, I immediately lost excess weight.
Yes I agree! I recently cut out all high carb foods and replaced them with veggies and foods higher in natural good fats from foods like nuts and avocado and I lost a large noticeable amount of fat in just 2 weeks. I think it depends on the person.
there are tons of published papers that say Fat turns to Sugar. I can post a few hundred papers here if you want. You can also visit nhicom The body uses glucose. When sugar gets stored, it's glucose turned into fat. The storage medium is Fat. When the body needs to use that fat, it turns the fat back into glucose. If what he is saying is true, then people with a lot of fat wouldn't loose fat. (because Fat doesn't turn into sugar) What he should be saying is when you eat carbs (non processed) you get full before you reach ur calorie limit. This means you eat a lot fewer calories when compared to fatty foods. Anyway... just my 2 cents. He is preaching the right thing, with wrong science.
This guy is spreading misinformation. He is telling Sugar/Fructose isn't bad ! People should follow Robert Lustig. His lectures are more scientific and sensible.
I'm sorry but this is too big. I have trouble understanding this. So, if I eat carbs and sugar, even when I exceed my daily calorie needs, I won't get fat?
I grew up eating white rice with meat and vegetables. Do you think that I've gained weight because recently I've been hearing that we weren't suppose to mix starches with protein?
Meat is very high in fat. I wouldn't consider it a mostly protein source. Try cutting that and adding in more veggies and eat starches to satisfaction.
I personally do OMAD (one meal a day) and so I'm regularly in a low state of ketosis. However, I think what he is really trying to say is that historically yes we are starch eaters. However, many of the starches we eat today come from unnatural sources such as processed foods. Just my non doctor opinion, but I'm pretty sure if we start eating natural things, we will all get healthier and lose weight.
Revtune natural and unnatural don't matter. It's about overindulgence. Fat, which is at average levels, is reduced in foods so sugar is put in excess to replace the loss in flavor. Anything in excess, including salads, get you fat and sugar has been getting a while lot of excess in American foods.
A lot of high carb athletes get diabetes. Hmm.. Check out the video documentary on youtube (there's an ad supported version, so it's free) called "Carbloaded" if you have an open mind.
Well, whatever works for you in the end. You tried the one thing, it didn't work. Tried another healthy alternative and your body seems to be better suited for it. Nice. :)
let us say that it is not efficient for the body to turn 500 extra kcal of sugar into fat. What happens if we we eat an extra 700 kcal. the body turns it eventually into fat. Where is this security margin ? Any info ?
the body can store up to (on average) 15g of carbs per 1 kilo. Let's say someone who's 70 kilos can store up to 1050g of carbs which is 4200 calories from carbs. But that's from zero though. You have to reach ketosis and then eat 4200 calories from carbs. The excess is mostly burnt as body heat which I experienced over eating on carbs. I started sweating at night when sleeping. And then after that the body can store carbs as fat but it's inefficient in humans. The process is called de novo lipogenesis which takes about 30% of calories from carbs to turn them into fat. It's efficient in herbivore animals such as cows and that's why they get fat from eating grass and grains.
High fat intake keeps my appetite as low as never before. When I ate sugar I was constantly hungry, so I was gaining and gaining. And how we can compare sugar and rice? Rice doesn't have fructose
When was this video recorded? In light of the information in "The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung, MD (published in 2016), the idea that starch and sugar don't make you fat is patently false.
All these different diets all with scientific explanation, strict carnivore, strict vegan, starch based....can UA-cam decide which one is right and label the others as medical misinformation? 🤭
Im HCLF but sometimes we have to be critical to our gurus. Seriously- its not efficient to store the sugar as fat so the body just burns it of? that doesn't make any sense because its more efficient to have the calories as fat then burn them off. anyway, excess is burnt of but not because its more efficient and its also stored as glycogen
do some research and find out get this I thought about the fact a person canbecome glucose intolerant or resistant ot insulin in response to carb diets (even thos they might be crappy carbs) but never have I seen any researcher doctor or what not find that we become fat resistant or protein resistant (it doe release insulin some times higher than sugar) so insulin resistance is the cells resisting the sugar not the insulin, why? because nutrients are missing that the cells need to protect their sensitive cytoplasm from the sugar (sugar is gasoline both composed of same molecules just different arrangement) highly flammable from oxygen in our blood, sugar has to be shuttled to the mitrochondria in a buffered package to avoid damage to the inners of the cell. they don't have this problem with fat or protein. (as amino acids of course)
okay....i mean..that's good to know, but regardless, as an endomorph like myself (i dont wanna get into the debate of somatotypes) i HAVE to watch my complex carb (oatmeal) intake. I'm not gonna say watch my carb intake like everyone else cause that's SUCH a damn broad statement it's disgusting. I have to watch my COMPLEX carb intake cause if i eat a high complex carb diet (along with moderate amounts of protein, i'm gonna have major blood sugar spikes and crashes. Just cause it's called a complex carb (good carbs) and not a simple carb (junk food carbs) doesn't mean it can and will still do damage
I think northern ancestors were seasonal eaters. Occasional trapped meats and fish all year long with tubers and greens in the spring then more vegetables in the summer and finally fruits in the fall. Nuts and buried meats would get them through the harshest winters.☮️♥️
Dr. McDougall is on the right track overall but in my opinion his message has two limitations: 1. Promoting his diet as starch based communicates a bad way because many persons think of starch as including sugary foods, etc. 2. He argues that past societies used a lot of starch. however, just because something was used extensively in the past does not mean necessarily that it is the best thing to use in the future. This is just weak logic.
His statement is false. Starch/sugar AND fat will BOTH make you fat if you consume too much of either! But you are better off eating quality fat than starch or sugar.
+Gerry Bourque Obviously people seem to be having trouble consuming too much fat due to its extreme caloric density... more calories in the butter then the potato beneath.
+Gerry Bourque Yeah -.- You can always force the body to do it if you drink soda or whatever. Body goes into emergency mode to burn off all the sugar that you forced into your bloodstream. Everything McDougall says only counts for whole foods. It's not an invitation to binge on sugar candy.
+steamed starch Agreed. I hear it all the time from people. After they eat a slice of cheesecake, they say "Oh man I just had soo much sugar!" I smh, ppl are soo misinformed. I eat all my starches fat-free.....but I usually have to make my own sauces and spreads to keep it low fat, but just as tasty ;)
It's amazing how much misinformation is out there. When I went WFPB, leaving a diet of fatty junk food, I had people saying all of these things to me:
"If you eat too much fruit, which is full of sugar, you'll get diabetes"
"You'll get fat eating a lot of potatoes and rice"
"You won't get enough protein, not eating meat"
"You won't get enough calcium, not drinking milk",
...and so on and so on. But I'm much healthier now and have lost nearly 20Kgs of surplus weight, and I'm nearly down to the upper limits of my ideal weight range, after just a couple of months of WFPB eating. My cholesterol is back down to a safe range, my liver is healthier and less fatty, I have more energy, no more B.O. or bad breath, far less chance of developing diabetes, as per test markers, my resting heart rate is a lot lower, since my heart doesn't have to work as hard pushing gluggy, fat-loaded blood around my body, etc.
No one used to caution me about all the junk food I used to eat, when I was on a diet that was leading me to an early grave.
Probably because they were eating it too and it's hard to criticize someone's diet that's the same as yours.
Well done, keep up the great work :)
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@@MsRocksa Whole Food Plant Based 👍
Starch Solution works for me. I'll never go back to eating unhealthy again. Thank you so much for work!!!
Dr McDougall speaks sense. A year I started following a diet that is based on his recommendations - a whole food plant based diet with a focus on unprocessed and unrefined foods - and I lost over 40 kg over the year. The diet is filling as it's high in fibre, and I don't get any more cravings because I feed my body enough nutrients.
In the past, I used to get constant hunger because the diet was full of nutritionally depleted convenience foods and junk food, and the body was screaming for more food because it wasn't getting enough micronutrients. After I tossed out meat, cheese and processed foods, I have found it surprisingly easy to stick to the diet. I have lost my taste for highly salted and sugary foods, and have cut down the salt, sugar and fat intake drastically.
I recently cut the fat intake even further - down to 20-25% fat - and feel even better. And the weight continues to drop off. Every other diet I ever tried was a failure because I was still eating nutritionally deficient processed foods, and my body was in a constant state of malnutrition, hence the cravings. This is why prepackaged, calorie-controlled diet foods and programs fail: they are based on highly processed and often very depleted of nutrients, resulting in constant hunger. What matters is the quality of the food, not the quantity. And eating more fruit and veggies means you can really fill up without blowing up the calorie bank.
These days I eat mostly whole foods, except for a couple of condiments, hummus, plant milks and whole wheat pitas. The rest is mostly fruit, veggies and beans. No soft drinks, no pastries from the local bakery, no frozen packaged meals, no takeaways for lunch, no fast foods for dinner. Just foods cooked mostly from scratch.
The "secret" to a successful weight loss diet is that ridiculously simple: eat real food.
Eat real food and FAST!
I keep telling my husband this. He says I eat too much rice but since going vegan I've lost an average of 5lbs a month.
divorce him and become a bodybuilder then txt me
Get a blood and diabetes test, and look up visceral fat
awesome
Exactly I love eating potatoes and I am the healthiest I have ever been since going vegan. WFPB
Good for you!!!! Rice is so good.
"From the lips to the hips, the fat you eat is the fat you wear" - BOOM! Classic McDougall dropping truth bombs for 40 years ;) Thanks for sharing Jeff.
+That Vegan Couple The original truth bomber. :'-]
+Natalia Echiburu Yes, I find the 5% fat a lot of vegans consume to be extreme..10-20% fat and about the same amount or a bit more protein (not animal) is perfect. Two thirds carbohydrates is satisfying enough.
+Muldeeer I eat tahini peanut butter hummus avocado those types of fats and some nuts n seeds I just don't go crazy with serving size. It makes me feel satisfied. I just now cook oil free or use a skim of coconut oil if I need to
+Natalia Echiburu I think he means it for people who need/want to lose weight. You don't need the extra fat when you're trying to lose weight, but a small percentage of healthy fats, not oils, won't hurt you when you're at your ideal weight.
+Allyson Powell
Animal FAT?
Geddoudahere......
It's about nutrients, movement and sleep. Doesn't matter what 'macros'. I personally like a good balance! The ONLY no no is eating highly refined carbs AND fats in high quantities at the same time, pizza, cake etc.
I agree with a lot of what Dr Macdougall says but this hasn't been my experience. I've lost a lot of weight cutting refined sugar out of my diet. The problem is, is when people combine fat with sugar.
U got rid of your sugar bowl?
potaot n water do it
I ate a big bowl of cheese and rice once.
It's been 10 years and my colon doesn't work right.
Now I'm allergic to cow cheese and milk and butter and whey and cookies and cakes and ice cream and candy bars and doughnuts and anything that has even traces of milk in it
Thanks cheese and rice!
I think your body used more of your dietary fat when you reduced the sugar, moreso than it stopped making fat from sugar.
the FAT you eat is the FAT you wear! Common sense ... and it's hard to believe that I'd somehow not understood this simple reality, until recently. RIP, dear sir !
How can you lose fat when in order for your body to go into fat burning mode you have to deplete your stores of glycogen? Carbohydrates replenish those stores...
Because you don't have to deplete glycogen stores to burn fat. That's a myth.
Been eating protein & fats for years with 1 cheat day per week (carbs) my abs been poping like crazy
It makes me laugh that all the weenies say "you can't just eat infinite amounts of sugar and not get fat"! Who sits on their ass all day and eats 4-5000 cals from bananas or rice? I am very active and still struggle to hit 3000 cals a day from high carb whole foods. When did "eat as much as you want" turn into "eat as much as you possibly can"?
its the calories. I know you know, if you eat over your caloric needs you get fat, it doens't matter what you eat.
Not all calories are created equal.
+Phil Adams for body compostion it doesn't matter the calories. for nutrients that's something else.I'm talking about body compostion
+4M the type of food, I mean. if you stay in a deficit you will loose weight
It's possibly partially true but NOT the full picture. I think more research needs to be done in this area. Durianrider/Freelee absolutely go against this theory. I was skeptical of them but have lost 15kg myself since January doing exactly what they & Dr. McDougall recommend so it can't be all about the calories. I only do 20-40 minutes a day on my bike so there's no way i'm at a deficit ever.
I've done vegan and I've tried eating meat.
I think I really don't care for meat anymore. So now I'll eat taters,beans, bread,berries, stuff like that. Oh,and rice. Also lots of greens and SMOOTHIES!!!!! Love Dr MacDougall.
"Sugar : The bitter truth". Just search it all the data is there. It destroy all this guys says. And is all data not a opinion given on a chair.
Nope. Wrong.
I am a vegan: no dairy; no animal products. But donuts and cookies and cane sugar are not good for you either. I eat fruit and potato’s and sometimes rice and beans and also non gmo corn. But those are good carbs. Pastries and loads of table sugar do contribute to obesity and cancer just like animal products do.
People in the comments are saying he is lying, well I'm on the high carb / sugar diet for 2 years now and it took me a year to prove he is telling the truth, the body runs on sugar, I can't do anything on fat and the sugar only has made me really lean. Make sure it's vegan though
I only just recently found Dr. McDougall online here. What he says in this video is the complete OPPOSITE of what Ketogenic diet speakers say about carbohydrates, sugar, and dietary fat; very confusing. Somebody is wrong. Or maybe they are BOTH correct - meaning weight loss and health benefits will occur with BOTH a high carb/low fat (starch) diet, and also with the opposite - a high fat/low carb ketogenic diet. But not with high carb and high fat at the SAME time in the same meal. I wonder if there is an unbiased, science-based video that addresses and explains the conflicting information.
@@doctormanganate5814 thanks for your reply. Yes, keto speakers say a high fat diet reverses type 2 diabetes, but Dr. Mcdougall says that dietary fat is what causes the diabetes in the first place because fat paralyzes insulin, the fat also clogs insulin receptors, and then the insulin can't get in, thus causing diabetic insulin resistance.
Dr. McDuguall should say unrefined complex carbohydrates starches or complex starch instead of saying sugar. Many people commenting here can't distinct refined sugar vs complex unrefined starch/carbohydrates and posting stupid angry comments. These two are very different foods. Well, refined sugar isn't food though.
However, some of people commenting agitated what are they really eating that make them such aggressive and angury anyway? People, if you don't like to eat McDuguall way, just don't.
That's one of the reasons it's so hard to discuss this with people, most need to educate themselves more before speaking.
BTW, a lot of these 'high carb' unrefined foods have a lot of fat, so it's useless to talk with them when they're making these assertions.
I think this is the opposite of what many people teach about keto and low carb diet. Does sugars not increase insulin, is insulin not a fat storage hormone, does it not cause the excess to be stored as fat?
Thank you Doctor McDougall for teaching the truth!
Man I wish I listened to people like this instead of meatheads/ gymrats .. Growing up I was fed so many lies and i ate it all up. Why does the truth always seem like the lie? Lol. Well im older now and i have gone Vegan! its been 3 weeks. In just the 3 weeks alone my body fat has dropped significantly i am very active btw.. I store most of my fat in my lower stomach and chest. Yes moobs. I cant believe how fast my moobs are going away after trying to get rid of them for years!!...based on the progress I believe in two months the moobs will be completely gone so just 5 more weeks to go! Which is such a short amount of time to get rid of a problem FOREVER. I was made for this "diet" more like lifestyle!! Thats how I feel. I dont even miss meat.. The only thing I sometimes fiend for is cheese...but of course Im not going to eat it. I see cheese as a drug now its very addicting and I wont Ever eat it again. My breathing is so much better and my energy is up. I am now eating MORE than what I was before when i ate a typical "healthy" diet and even though the volume of food I eat is up I am still dropping fat and retaining and growing muscle. I am more open minded about trying almost anything as long as it is vegan, healthy and is a whole food. I could go on and on about how this has changed my life! Usually though I dont get too far with people when they find out im a vegan. People have told me to my face they would prefer to eat steak even if they knew it would shortened their life by 5 years.Because they want to enjoy the "good" things in life.... WHAT!? So now that Im vegan People think I act like "above" them or that I act like my shit doesnt stink...no matter what I wont act like I am better than anyone!! But my poop literally does not stink haha
nice
@detractor ...your feelings get hurt.??? Why.dont you learn how.to.shut your mouth when grown folk are speaking !!!
Hello. Your story reminds me of my case, I also gain weight in my breasts. How was it in the long term, are you still on the diet?
This guy talks about fat storage without mentioning insulin and sugars relation to this, how is that convincing evidence?
This is a 4 minute video of a longer speech where that information is probably located.
This guy is an assclown....an evil one at that....also a David horowitz stunt double. I eat fatty meats and sugars from soda to capn crunch to pork chops with buttery smashed potatoes to cheeseburgers and it's impossible for me to gain a single lbs....I am also a powerlifter so maybe it's more to do with my eating frequency than actually what I eat...I eat 6-8 times a day...not alot becuz typically when I eat alot, I get very sleepy so lots of eating during the day but just enough to restore my cells with nutrients from every direction...I been at 251lbs for almost 6 years.....muscle comes hard especially at 52 years of age but my p.r. a week ago was a 600 lbs squat....muscle gain for most people is 2-3 lbs a year...I'm Scandinavian and half native American so I've always been naturally strong strewn with fast twitch muscles with an inclination to drinking liquor until mummified...my point is that I been sober for 9 years and nothing else.
@@shawndayvis6169 You've developed a theory based on your own anecdotal experience, whereas this doctor (not a layman like you or me) based his theory off of actual peer-reviewed research studies, direct work with thousands of patients over several decades, and thorough medical training. If you think you're smarter than him, that makes you the "assclown," ma'am.
@@RT-vw6yw well, he has been disputed by everyone already as well. Sugar is worse than fat atm because of the over excessed amounts placed in our foods. Eaten fat is different than fat you keep on your body, it doesn't just automatically goes on to you body fat when ingested like he says. Anything in access becomes fat.
@@shawndayvis6169 uh..huh..
He's half-right. Carbs don't cause fat. But, once you are overweight, carb-eating is working against the use of fats by the body.
But isnt omega-3 a good thing?
4:18 “The body does not efficiently turn sugar into fat.”
Yes, the liver does it very well
that's bullshit if you have an endo/meso body type it'll turn complex carbs into fat real quick in large amounts
Oh yes it does! If to much , will certainly and efficiently store it. if the sugar is available , it will hinder fat loss.
@@davidwirth2716 but there is a way to prevent that on a high complex carb/fiber diet. U have to cut out ALL junk food carbs and high fat foods and you can lose fat while on a high complex carb diet. It just takes ALOT of strict moderating
i'll agree with that , all the junk carbs can really mess up your progess.
I really want to believe this but.. After the introduction of low fat products in the 70s the western world have only gotten fatter. Also the sugar you eat but dont burn off immediately afterwards is stored as fat - where else would it go..
The 1970's saw the huge boom in processed foods that contained huge amounts of oil. The low fat advertising craze was more of an early 90's thing.
+5piles lol
this video is a scam...next thing you know they'll say that the way to cure diabetes is by eating ice cream and jelly donuts...when insulin levels are high good luck trying to lose weight...it makes no sense to eat high carb low fat...look at all the illnesses that exist now since eliminating dietary fats and replacing them with carbs...anyway, there is no point in debating these high carb low fat fanatics as they are part of the global agenda to keep people fat and sick so that the corporate elites can keep their pockets fat with all the money that they make in the pharmaceutical industry...if everyone is healthy there won't be any customers to sell their destructive drugs too...
5piles LOL!
Um, what population of people are you referring to who replaced dietary fats with carbs?
Total lie., sugar, Refined carbohydrates packaged processed Foods are the Major cause of fat gain, Not Fat. he does not Talk About Role of insulin in sugar storage to cause obesity.
I was on the carnivore diet about 6 months. And I hit a dead end. I started craving ice cream and sugar and gained all the weight back.
try carb cycling. you gotta trick the body because it gets used to routine.
Carb Cycling will fix that. Do it once a week have a day where you eat all the carbs you can handle then stop the other 6 days.
Wait? So you did lose weight on carnivore(with fat?) and then you ate some carbs and got fat again? I thought this guy just said it works the opposite way?
Imagine thinking you're a carnivore 😂😂😂
I just read the title and to me this is very wrong. A world famous cardiologist says: "Fat doesn't make you fat, but sugar and starch do", as they can cause heart disease, stroke and diabetes. High calories is ok, what the problem is high carb. That can cause many health problems.
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I was 220 pounds heavy three months ago. I tried for years and years doing diets, always cutting fat intake, going to the gym. Nothing worked. Finally I started eating a lot of fat: Butter, coconut oil, olive oil, bacon, eggs, and I completely stopped eating flour and sugar... I lost 50 pounds in two months. Went from size 38 pants to size 31. I went to the Doctor to make sure I was OK, did a full panel blood work, and I am perfectly healthy. There are thousands of testimonials like mine all over the place. Now I am going to reduce my fruit intake to avoid some sugar and shed the little belly fat I have left. I think Dr. Mc Dougall is totally wrong.
Sounds pretty fucking miserable. Damn, it must suck to be that desperate to have to resort to such fad diets!
To me it's pretty fucking effective and I feel pretty fucking great to have lowered my blood sugar and cholesterol... What really sucks are miserably obtuse minded people.
So you think the cure to an unhealthy diet and lifestyle leading to obesity is a very unhealthy diet? Weight loss over a few months is pretty easy. I've seen my brother, uncle, cousins and friends all singing the praises of the Atkins diet for the first year, but give it some time. In 2 years I predict you'll gain it all back.
I never mentioned that I was obese. You are assuming things. I was overweight for my height, but in decent athletic shape: I was able to do 8 chin ups at that point. Now I'm getting close to my ideal weight, Today I can do 15 chin ups. (My goal is 20, my record is 28). Also, I never really explained my diet nor I said It was going to stay the same.
What I do say is this: 1.Some fats are unhealthy but other fats are very healthy. 2. Eating fat won't make you fat. 3.Carbs make you gain weight, so eat them in moderation, and combined with lots of fiber.
You said you lost 50 pounds, so either you lost too much weight, or you were obese. At my heaviest I was 25 pounds over my ideal weight, I considered myself borderline obese. Carbs don't make you gain weight, excess calories do, the weight stored is from dietary fat. And fiber is only found in plant foods, almost all (except nuts, seeds, avocados) derive the majority of calories from carbohydrates, which is why low carb= low fiber.
somehow people think that just eating sugar is going to cause you to gain all this extra weight. from a standpoint of weight, it's burned the same. from a health standpoint, too much of it can cause irritability and issues down the line.
Hm...personally not agree with you. My blood sugar levels and blood pressure was very high. But when I removed sugar, fruitose and refined processed food, the levels came back down to normal in 4 months and lost 12 lbs without the thoughts of loosing weight!!! My doc was surprised and no longer insisting meds for me.
When I eat fat,I lose fat,when I eat starchy flours I gain fat.
Most people do unless you restrict fat to unhealthy levels and want to live off of rice and fruit the rest of your life. I personally feel better eating a grassfed steak and greens.
Peter you have to exercise, and you burn that fuel, and carbs is a clean burning fuel, meat not so much.
You dont lose fat when you eat fat, you lose weight which is only water weight.
Of course, look at this guy, he is starving himself
I thought for sure he would propose to eat only unrefined cellular complex carbohydrates (beans, cold potatoes, chick peas etc.) That could be successful for people. But then he just flat out tells us that sugar is fine and excess sugar will get burned off as energy. Are you kidding me?
If any of that were true then most people are currently on the perfect diet. Yet obesity and diabetes have sky rocketed.
It is super easy for your body to turn sugar into fat by the way. That is not debatable.
Sugar kills. It absolutely does.
when he said that I too was floored, this guy is a nut case.
He's high on some shit
Actually not. Sugar doesn’t turn to fat in humans under normal circumstances, only when you overeat more than 1000 calories from carbs several days in a row. When you overeat carbs, you store the fat that you eat with those carbs
Diego Rossi I didn’t talk about protein and said that carbs didn’t turn into fat what are you talking about???
Too much sugar gives me headaches. I try to avoid it. But if I can't, one cup water with 1T apple cider vinegar takes care of it. No headaches, no I'll effects. Glucose stays lower... I've measured. Best thing EVER.
I'm trying a high-carb low-fat diet at the moment for athletic performance purposes and I don't hold any ideological views on diet, however the mantra 'the fat you eat is the fat you wear' couldn't be more wrong in practice and I was one of a rapidly growing grow of low-carb dieters who had amazing fat-loss results consuming a high fat diet. I don't believe carbs are evil, but I 100% know that for fat-loss, fat isn't either.
I'm with you on not being evangelical about one thing or the other. I'm not sure McDougall's take is on it, but from what I've read and from my own experience fat alone won't make you fat as it barely (if at all) raises insulin, therefore there's no 'storing mode' in play. So if you ate a mostly fat diet and anything else you ate caused only very low insulin responses, then hardly any of the fat consumed would be stored away. There simply isn't enough insulin around to enable it to be stored. It'll be used for energy or excreted out if in excess. You could also do a 'fat fast' where you only consume fats but limit the calorie intake. I've done this a few times but gave up soon as I felt rubbish, probably due to the reduction in calories and basically drinking olive oil straight and eating chunks of butter wasn't really pleasant. However the fat fast would work for weight loss (before the metabolism slowed down) as long as you could maintain the low calorie intake.
In these regards I agree with you 100%.
Where I differ is that consuming high fat becomes a problem when combined with high carbs. When more insulin is around (not necessarily overly 'high', but it will be present when carbs are consumed) then it's not just that fat will automatically be stored, but it will be when there is an excess of calories. The excess fat won't be excreted like with a fat fast, but will be stored because 'storage mode' has been activated. You could easily combine carbs and fats (and of course many naturally occuring foods contain both) and not put on any extra weight as long as you were only consuming your daily calories needs. You could also combine carbs and fats and reduce calories, but like with the fat fast reducing calories too much can cause problems.
For me I get where this guy is coming from with the Starch solution. It does make logical sense, just as intaking only fat also does. The problem I found when I tried eating only starch was that it was cumbersome to get my daily calorie needs in from eating only starch. I had to eat a ton and I felt bloated from the bulk of the food. I would personally say it is more pleasant to consume only fat as it's a lot simpler to get close to or reach (if you just want to maintain) your daily calorie needs. However both approaches are boring and limiting both in terms of satisfaction and also denies us many natural food sources that contain lots of good stuff our body's want (which is in itself where the feeling of satisfaction is derived).
So what is the solution? Or at least one other possible solution. Well obviously insulin isn't just a fat storing hormone, it does many things including getting energy into cells. Say the cells need X amount of energy per day. Let's say X is 100. Now you consume carbs and fats but only give your cells 90. Insulin won't store fat just because carbs are consumed too, because the body isn't that stupid to simply store fat when it can be used for energy that is needed right here and now. There are many prominent people who believe this to be the case, but it makes no sense to me nor has it played out in my experience. I have simply never put on weight by consuming fats with carbs as long as my daily calorie needs haven't been exceeded.
The key is to reduce calories (and care not an iota about macro ratio's, just eat whatever feels satisfying and trust your body to know what it wants) a little at a time. An overweight body only needs a certain daily calorie intake to maintain because (and this is a basic way of saying it) your body needs that amount of energy to carry a fat body around every day. So yes if you were fat and then suddenly cut your daily calorie needs in half then you'd have half the energy to carry out your usual daily tasks. You would feel rubbish. Some say to push through that, but I disagree.
Your body wants to optimize but is built to maintain. The key is to get that balance where you can still function whilst also reducing calories enough so that body fat can be used to make up the numbers.
I know what some reading that may ask: "well why wouldn't the body just access the stored fat to make up the numbers if you halved your calorie intake?" Good question. I go back to what I said before, the body is built to maintain its current status. Yes stored body fat can be used to energise you, however that process requires some real time (see 'Mitochondria' if you're interested in that) to adjust. By reducing calorie intake gradually and never feeling anything less than pretty satisfied, ie: going to bed feeling content, then the body can gradually move over to using fat storage in order to optimize.
So yes basically during this process you may not be 'optimized', ie: there may well be some 'stress', but a minimal amount of stress is no harm to the body. And yes the body does ultimately want to optimise and it will do once you go easy on it, cut out the extremes, get rid of the 'good' and 'evil' notions and just basically be kinder to yourself. Thanks! :D
Weird how all the high fat diet proponents are super likely to die early & obese
@@Jrobidy2 you’ll need a source for that buddy, but thanks for your opinion
@@mikey.1205 Because there are so many sources in this thread that you started pumpkin. You can’t have a study on a group of people that doesn’t exist.. like mermaids or large populations of old low carb dieters
@@Jrobidy2 If there are so many sources, just attach one please - this will back up your claim. I'm not disputing you, just calling out your unreferenced opinion
But will it make you muscular? You can be skinny on nearly any diet with discipline. But not every diet will make you a muscular beast.
Well what I suggest is u test the high carb low fat diet for a few weeks and the high fat low carb diet for a few weeks and see for ur self the difference in how u feel and look.i just can't agree with with him because for me I lost a lot of weight on a high fat and a protien and a low carb diet.
I personally already experiemented with a low fat high carb diet guess what? I got fatter and my metabolic syndrome got worse my a1 c went up my energy levels died and my resistance to infections destroyed, I was always getting sick. my hypoglcymic events got worse.I decided right there to not eat a high car low fat diet or restricted calorie diet either ever again.
you ate too much meat.
McDougal is oversimplifying things. The body does not store protein. True. But neither does it DUMP excess protein. Rather, protein that isn't needed for "building materials" is converted to - carbohydrates. Carbs can be stored as glycogen, or converted to fat. Excess protein is converted to fat and stored as fat. Excess carbs are converted to fat and stored as fat. Excess fat is stored as fat. The thing that it is important to note is that ingested carbohydrates are turned into energy more efficiently that proteins, because they can be used more directly. Proteins, on the other hand, have to first be converted to carbohydrates, before their energy can be extracted. Also, this is a process that produces toxic by products that need to be flushed out of the body by the kidneys. So SOME of the proteins are wasted, and flushed out, but the remainder is converted to carbs and stored as either fats in bodily fat storage areas, or as glycogen in the liver.
As needed, carbohydrates are converted to lipids and vice versa. Stored lipids (fats) are converted to carbohydrates, as needed, and even water as needed. The carbs are "burned" for energy.
I switched from a diet more like that recommended by Dr Fuhrman and my arteries cleared out a bit, my blood pressure went down, but my weight went UP. I removed almost all the lipids from my diet. That's why I think my blood pressure went down. I was able to get off blood pressure pills, with my doctor's agreement. But by cutting down on lettuce, spinach, brocolli, collards, etcetera, and increasing my whole grain maize grits, rice, and potatoes, my weigh went up. I'm going back to eating more greens now, and less rice, mazie and potatoes.
wrong. body only converts existing lean body mass to sugars under special circumstances, not ingested protein
This is crazy talk, the preferred method sumo wrestlers use to bulk up is to eat rice. They get almost all of their calories from carbohydrates, and this guy is saying that the body is bad at turning carbohydrates into fat?? Come on now this guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
So if carbs don’t make you fat and thats all were meant to eat then how do we add fat on our bodies to survive winters?
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Incorrect Information - I do keep an open mind to new information. In this case though, I decided to test this theory. I weighed myself one day first thing in the morning, and took my waist measurement. That day I ate a few dozen pieces of spice drop candy. The rest of my diet was exactly the same as the day before because I eat the same foods and quantities pretty much each day. Well, the next morning (again first thing my weight was up 1.6 lbs. and my waist was up 1/4 inch. Now, the nutritional information on the back of the candy package said 0 on everything except carbohydrate. That was 35g and of that 30g was sugar. 0 fat, 0 protein. Thus - it was the sugar that caused the gain in fat. Not fat.
This guy is selling crap die can't believe they are still debating about refined carbs & sugar being the primary causes of majority of western diseases !
potato n water go go go
I think this short clip comes from a longer presentation that is truncated here. However, he is not referring to processed sugars like what you ate in the candy. He's referring to whole food. Plant-based starches/sugars found in natural foods. Process refined sugars are the enemy.
Try repeating your experiment by replacing the foods you eat with plant-based whole foods for one week and see the results.
If you want to lose weight, your body has to burn fat. Your body will burn off carbs and sugar first before you begin burning fat.
Its not just about weight. When i went on a keto diet i felt like a gross piece of shit...my skin was gross and greasy, my body odor was terrible, i took painful dumps once every other day which isnt good bcs the colon is absorbing decomposed animal flesh, energy in the gym was shit but i was brainwashed in to thinking it was good and was tired of eating the same damn limited foods. When i went hclf my skin cleared, body odor almost disappeared, energy threw the roof, felt cleared and light after every dump, wide variety of foods. Lost weight on both diets but feel healthier on hclf. I still eat animal protein but very little.
Sorry I don't feel like the question was answered - What happens to the EXTRA carbs not burned? The initial is burned off to "make the machine run" or during exercise. But where is the remainder stored if it is not converted to fat? What if I eat pounds upon pounds of brown rice?
All I heard was "that ring is burned through heat or fidgeting."
The problem with saying sugar doesn't make you fat, is that you by extension also have to say that alcohol doesn't make you fat, since fructose and alcohol is processed in the body the same way. Goes to the liver, is either converted to liver sugar or fat, which is why high sugar / high alcohol gives a beer gut. The fat produced in the liver also gets stuck there over time, resulting in a fatty liver for both high alcohol and high fructose, and for the same reason.
So this claim is not supported, especially since this guy acts like the fat you eat acts like lego blocks that are directly put into your fat storage, which also has little to no scientific backing, and is not how the body works.
Having carbs signal storage makes a lot more sense from an evolutionary perspective aswell, since high amount of carbs were only available in the summer, when food was plentiful, and it would make sense to store fat for later.
Also also, using the asian argument is violently uninformed, since asians used to eat brown rice up until recent times, which is vastly different from the mostly starchy white rice. Add to that that asians tend to be less muscular than caucasians, so that they can be fat without having a high BMI, effectively being skinnyfat.
Look at an obesity graph of america, look at 1977 when the classic high carb food pyramid was introduced, and explain how people got fatter the year a high carb diet was introduced.
starch my friend potato n water do it
That is exactly how fats and oils get stored. There is no conversion. As for food pyramid, people didn't follow it. Instead fat and meat intake quadrupled. Wake up sheeple.
Beer gut is from the estrogen in beer (from hops). Yes, it has estrogen and men actually believe it's manly to drink it, so stupid.
Anyway you're making a lot of assertions without much validity.
I'm currently on a HCLF whole food diet and it's stupidly easy to lose weight this way, though that's not the primary reason I'm doing it.
People accept the truth that is the most convenient to them; If someone doesn't want to give up carbs, they'll claim fat is the enemy. If they don't want to give up fat, they'll bring up the big sugar conspiracy. I think the secret to losing weight is to simply stop what you indulge in. If you eat too much sugar, stop. If you eat too much fat, stop. You'll get nowhere if you replace fat with sugar or sugar with fat. Losing weight is about the inconvenience - because if it wasn't about the inconvenience, everyone would be losing weight.
Also, people from Asian cultures aren't thinner simply because they eat rice instead of fatty foods, it's because their portion sizes are drastically smaller. A large Japanese coke is a small American.
hmmmmmm how about smaller portion of potato n water?
It feels good to hear it from the one and only *Dr. John McDougall.*
TheVeganSkeptic quack. If it quacks like a duck its a quack
Contrary to what he says, I switched from a starch based diet to a fat based diet and easily lost 40 pounds in 5 months without feeling hungry. He completely ignores everything besides energy content. Most starch based foods come in forms that allow for much too quick absorption. But of course, be it carbs or fat, if you eat more than you need, you will end up obese.
Alright so how about the insulinogenic effect of carbs? How are you supposed to burn fat when insulin is produced in your body? Also there are examples of several groups of one of the original american tribes who lived off carbs mainly and were overweight or obese even on a calorie deficit? Also what is the problem with storing fat when you burn it at a bigger rate? Fat satisfies you better than any carb and as long as you don't eat more calories than you really need or you exercise while in a stage of ketosis then you would in theory burn fat at a greater rate than you store it, or at least at the same rate.
Please contradict me and give me evidence otherwise.
I've been on the high carb low fat train for like 7 months and my weight loss plateaud after 3 months with consistent exercise and calorie tracking. It just does not seem to work for me.
You have fallen for the low carb myth.
Except, it's not a myth, and there is reasonable science supporting it.
+Radu Popescu Pseudoscience in order to sell books is not the same as peer reviewed science. Fat is burned when you are in calorie deficit, regardless of insulin or any particular diet (twinkies and coke will render great results). If you watched the video, then you would realize that carbs are temporarily stored as glycogen for energy but too inefficient to be converted to fat except under extreme circumstances.
If you're not overweight, nuts and seeds are great sources of overt fats in small amounts.
+Radu Popescu Have you tried experimenting with alternate macros? I had brain fog and abysmally low energy on an 80/10/10 HCLF diet (no matter how much I ate); but HFLC vegan food gives me energy and immaculate blood tests, and I am perfectly lean. I don't advocate ANY one single macro plan for every single human being because we are all individuals. I've rehabbed myriad orphaned/injured animals, and even each animal is a unique individual with unique needs within their species-specific dietary requirements. So too are we humans. So if HCLF isn't giving you the results you want, try other ideas -- some people do better on higher fat or higher protein. What matters to me is a cruelty-free diet that one can maintain, happily, for life. Vibrant health and good blood tests will show you what macro combination works best for you.
So you did actually lose some weight in the first 3 months? Then surely that proves you DO lose weight eating an abundance on a HCLF diet. When you reach a lower weight it becomes harder to lose more, and you would need to a lot eat less to start losing again.
This diet seems to make people look frail and withered. can anyone share their experience about its effect on strength levels in men? Not talking about "feeling like I have more energy", but actual strength levels.
After starting it i have more energy can walk more
Also why do studies show that high fat low carb( ketogenic) lost more weight than high carb low fat
This has been debunked with the new NuSi study from Kevin Hall. Keto has no metabolic advantage and you don't lose more fat than on a standard diet, you lose more lean body mass and water weight. You're also running in a state of sickness, causing you to lose your appetite, which is a good way to prevent yourself from eating a lot of calories. It's also a good way to die young.
+Etienne-Emile Antikatastaseis thank you had to do a little more research
Etienne-Emile Antikatastaseis hmm it worked for many I know ..
Don't listen to Etienne, it's a bunch of hogwash. Ketogenic is very healthy.
Ofc you lose water. Cause carbs make you store water. When you don't eat that then you lose all that.
I'm on the carnivore diet. I eat lots of dietary fat and almost no carbohydrates, and the weight is falling off!
Last year I went heavy on exercising, and changed my diet from junk and processed food to a healthy diet, I was on Moderate to High carbs. Despite exercising a ton (weight lifting and heavy cycling) and droping my body weight a lot to the point dropping more would have made me way too skinny, I never managed to get rid of that layer of fat hanging on my lower belly. But everytime I tried to restrict carbs, that layer would go away after a single week. So you tell me high carbs won't make you fat, I'll trust my judgement.
It depends on your fat intake and TDEE. If someone eats 3000cal with 80-10-10 plus exercise they will likely maintain or lose fat weight. Because 2400cal/600g of carbs was ingested which is also roughly the liver and muscles storage capacity when full *depending on the person/metabolism etc etc. If you give someone with a typical average diet (40-20-40) with a Balance point of 3000cal with 40% carbs 20% protein 40% fat the high fat content makes sticky blood and coats the cells.
Insulin cannot get into the cells where sugar is trapped in the bloodstream. This over time leads to insulin resistance aka type2 diabetes as obv weight gain also comes from the storage of fat. If the individual TDEE was originally 3000 on a C40-P20-F40 macro split there was 1040cals from dietary fats / 115grams. It was oxidised though per 24hr cycle to maintain bodyweight or bfat% in this case.
Now if we take the same individual and swap the macros for 3000cal @ C75-P19-F6 the individual will be only ingesting 180cals /20grams of dietary fat. The 75% carb intake = 2250cal/4 =562g carbs. Muscle storage + liver storage will be not quite full, and ingested 20g will be oxidised to meet metabolic demands. The protein effort will be similar as before (same macro%) but the heat used throughout the day to deal with the ingested 562g carbs with burn off possibly 1/4th through the liver as temporary Triglycerides. There is a bodyfat deficit from the oxidised adipose tissue by the next day to balance of the 3000cals. The exact amount I cannot say. It will happen though because if someone is maintaining a average bodyfat level say male 20% b.fat weight 80kg ingesting 3000cal...the cleaner blood from high carb very lowfat will use all the sugars up & still be short of energy to meet the 3000cal goal espec when protein is also metabolically demanding.
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The switch to C75-P15-F10 @3000cal the body will only temporarily store 300cal/33g of fat then the carbs will fuel the metabolism to arrive at the 2600cal we set earlier...but the remaining carbs will be thermogenically burned off as they dont convert well to fat during de novo lipogenisis. The net result would be 0 actual fat gain on individual whereas scenario one would be 44grams atleast from the fat%
@@zacsborntorunrunningadvent3441 Interesting read. Thanks!
I cut out as much fat as possible when I eat steak, because I don't like the chewy texture. Everything else, I eat in moderation; minus shellfish and pork, which I don't eat for other reasons. I've weighed between 120-130lbs, since 2005. I exercise 3-4 days a week and no, I'm not skinny fat.
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really informative! thank you!
he's the best!
i thought that if you only ate a little bit of carbs like 800 calories worth and then the rest or your calories was from fat... then your body will use that fat for energy right? i know that protein isnt used at all for energy, but i didn't think fat was the same as protein as mcdougal is saying. someone help me out?
That's a myth that floats around. Our species would have gone extinct long ago if our bodies were that inefficient.
I think this guy is a sugar fanatic who doesn't say that if you don't burn the sugar first, you won't be able to burn the fat.... so yes, sugar makes you indirectly fat!
that keto diet talking point is simply wrong
How come we get told so many different things....
i think it depends on the person. i tried the high carb low fat and i was eating very fibrous things but i just never felt satiated and ate a lot and gained 15 pounds very fast. i weighed more on a vegan diet than on my old vegetarian diet. any ways i started to eat more protein like beans and fats like avocados (no oil though) and sure enough it worked! i have this strange theory that because i am a student and my brain is thinking a lot it craves more fats to help my brain cells.
No i was getting way too much calories . trust me this works for me. I dont eat that much fat i am just not as strict with it. And i only eat avocado and nuts but in small amounts. Also i am trying to build muscle so i am eating more than 10 percent protein. Thanks for the advice though but if you read other comments other people had the same issue as me i defenimoty think it dependa on your body. I am still getting the majority of my calories from carbs. I am just not obseessing over things and tracking calories. When i did that i gained weight.
I am a student too. One who spends around 8-12 hours studying per day during the entire year, since I take classes during the entire summer. Eating a massive load of carbohydrates is what has given me all of the energy and brain power to study so hard and do so well in school. Your theory is wrong. Fat clouds the brain. Fat clogs the arteries that lead to your brain thus reducing oxygen flow to your brain. The reason you gained weight with a HCLF diet could come from a host of reasons, but some include stress, lack of sleep, a past of calorie restriction and metabolic damage, and a change in hormones due to a variety of causes. Fat and protein do not supply your brain cells, only glucose does that. Every single cell in your body runs on glucose, especially your brain cells.
+Dante Hart thats why i came to the vegan life style in the first place my body couldn't digest meat at all
+Vegan Power Couple
As a student I can assess that although I like the fats from avocado and nuts, it makes my mind foggy and cloudy. As a European the whole wheat bread I eat makes an excellent fuel. Also things like fruits and dates. Excellent fuel!
Since this thread is full of students I thought I'd help you out a bit on something else that's also useful: GREEN TEA. Guys, seriously it's amazing. The sheer focus it gives without getting hyper helps a bunch.
It has just the right amount of caffeine content + those micronutrients for health.
everyone's metabolism is different. it will be different for men and women, our hormones, our environment, foods available to us. plant-based foods are the best. fats don't make you fat- sugar makes you fat.
Sorry but not everyone is the same. I've eaten his diet and my blood sugar went way up!
Now Im carnivore its normal.Get a blood sugar meter and a keytone meter so you know.
And 5.6 a1c is not good, you want 5 or lower.
Your fat consumption was likely higher than you realized.
@@RT-vw6yw I'm 58 and been doing this a long time, his diet does not work for me.
@@fourthtunz 5.6 is still ok and mine is 4.6 eating 70-90% carbs and 5-10% fat
@@dj-fe4ck how old are you?
@@fourthtunz 34, but that doesn't matter. My parents are 62 and 74 and neither of them have ever eaten a low carb diet and have never been diabetic or prediabetic and they don't even eat as perfectly as I do. Dr. McDougal and Neal Barnard eat the same way I do and are certainly not diabetic. With the way I eat, it's 100% impossible for me to ever become even prediabetic. My a1c will certainly never go over 5.5 5.2 is the highest I ever had it and the higher carb and lower fat I eat, the lower it gets, now at 4.6.
Why are the keto people not fat?
Why aren’t vegans fat
But it does!! What about the glycemic acid , Fat made from carbs.
Fats can come from carb. But one things for sure,
If you eat too much of something you are bound to get fat, even if its fruits.
Love the info. Thank you!
Hes right, but if you eat a caloric deficit, you will not store the fat you eat as fat, or at least you will end up with less body fat after a while. Conversely, if you eat 3000g of carbs a day, a lot of it will get converted to fat unless your body needs that much as fuel.
I'll admit this subject is not my specialty, but I have formally studied many types of science and this is generally not true. The body breaks down you put in it, it does not just move the fat from the food into your body. If a low fat diet works for you then great, but the real issues with obesity came about after a societal rise in sugar consumption. I am not talking about your fruits and ancient grains here, I am talking about the added/ refined sugars found in most foods today. The sugar business has paid scientists or years in order to get them to advertise to the public that fat is the reason people are gaining weight rather than sugar. By cherry picking the data you can very quickly decide that fat is the issue, but if you look at all the research as a whole the culprit is the added sugars. There's nothing wrong with eating a low fat diet if you enjoy it, but substituting fat for processed carbohydrates, like white bread, is only going to put you in an even worse situation.
rose97553 because he's in crack
What sort of fat does converted excess sugar make? Saturated or unsaturated?
It makes adipose tissue
Love videos like this! 👍🏻 Thank you!
Fat should be a micro not a marco. Who knows why people got so stupid. One thing I know is that most people around me are eating fatty animal flesh and are FAT, while I am plant only and fit asf.
I agree with him on most things, but if you consume too many carbs you WILL get fat. Example being that even though I follow a plant based vegan diet with fruits, veggies, legumes, and grains and do cardio and resistance training 3-4 times a week, I'm still chubby because I like to party and drink a lot of beer and sweet alcoholic beverages on the weekends.
alcohol destabilizes your metabolism, no issue with the sugar in them. when intoxicated, body stops burning glucose efficiently, that's why you are chubby
+Hailey Grace (Hailz) Alcohol is not a carbohydrate, it's alcohol. Which is basically halfway to fat. Also liquid calories are easy to over indulge on because they contain no fiber.
+DomSchu
Transmutation of chemicals?
Howdat?
bernyoz bear and such are full of sugars
Beer*
Fat makes me fat? Weird. I've recently done 2 years of carb-free carnivore diet with a lot of animal fat. Towards the end of the 2 years, I weigh 150 lbs at 5'8''5, with visible abs and muscle definition. Clearly fat is making me fat!
I believe that there is no one-size-fits all. And for me, my body type, starches and sugar did make me fat. When I cut out the grains, white rice, white potatoes, white sugar, I immediately lost excess weight.
but what were you consuming with the starch and sugar??
Yes I agree! I recently cut out all high carb foods and replaced them with veggies and foods higher in natural good fats from foods like nuts and avocado and I lost a large noticeable amount of fat in just 2 weeks. I think it depends on the person.
Excess water.
Then why are you on this channel bothering people who like this message and have success?? Go watch Keto Paleo teachers and Drs. Leave us alone
But aren’t starchy food turning into glucose and then cholesterol?
the quack doctor hahaha
there are tons of published papers that say Fat turns to Sugar. I can post a few hundred papers here if you want. You can also visit nhicom The body uses glucose. When sugar gets stored, it's glucose turned into fat. The storage medium is Fat. When the body needs to use that fat, it turns the fat back into glucose. If what he is saying is true, then people with a lot of fat wouldn't loose fat. (because Fat doesn't turn into sugar) What he should be saying is when you eat carbs (non processed) you get full before you reach ur calorie limit. This means you eat a lot fewer calories when compared to fatty foods. Anyway... just my 2 cents. He is preaching the right thing, with wrong science.
Yes Americans are not eating enough sugar! We all need to eat loads more sugar and HFCS!
Yeah bring in more barrels !
You must be a sugar addict
Does sugar cause high triglycerides?
varies from person to person
Yes it does. There are many reputable medical sources which indicate so.
potato n water go go go, stop the roids n lipo
This guy is spreading misinformation. He is telling Sugar/Fructose isn't bad ! People should follow Robert Lustig. His lectures are more scientific and sensible.
I totally agree. This is nonsense. Very disappointing, because I really like Dr. McDougal.
actually they are both correct
I'm sorry but this is too big. I have trouble understanding this. So, if I eat carbs and sugar, even when I exceed my daily calorie needs, I won't get fat?
He’s the best
I grew up eating white rice with meat and vegetables. Do you think that I've gained weight because recently I've been hearing that we weren't suppose to mix starches with protein?
Meat is very high in fat. I wouldn't consider it a mostly protein source. Try cutting that and adding in more veggies and eat starches to satisfaction.
TRUTH: Eat REAL food and you'll be fine
Just as I am trying to see if Keto and Carnivore is legit good 4u!
I personally do OMAD (one meal a day) and so I'm regularly in a low state of ketosis. However, I think what he is really trying to say is that historically yes we are starch eaters. However, many of the starches we eat today come from unnatural sources such as processed foods. Just my non doctor opinion, but I'm pretty sure if we start eating natural things, we will all get healthier and lose weight.
Revtune natural and unnatural don't matter. It's about overindulgence. Fat, which is at average levels, is reduced in foods so sugar is put in excess to replace the loss in flavor. Anything in excess, including salads, get you fat and sugar has been getting a while lot of excess in American foods.
I eat only rice and veggies. How come I’m not losing weight though i walk 10000 steps
Sugar makes you fat, ...I'm on a keto diet and im ripped af...high fat zero carbs is the way to go
High carb low fat would do the same pal + it's a lot healthier.
And there are millions of ripped people on high carb, moderate protein and moderate fat diets. Keto isn’t the only way.
Why isn't John McDougall fat? He gets 80% of his calories from carbs. By your logic he should be fat as a whale.
A lot of high carb athletes get diabetes. Hmm.. Check out the video documentary on youtube (there's an ad supported version, so it's free) called "Carbloaded" if you have an open mind.
Well, whatever works for you in the end. You tried the one thing, it didn't work. Tried another healthy alternative and your body seems to be better suited for it. Nice. :)
let us say that it is not efficient for the body to turn 500 extra kcal of sugar into fat. What happens if we we eat an extra 700 kcal. the body turns it eventually into fat. Where is this security margin ? Any info ?
+VeganBanana about up to 500 grams of carbs a day
Hila214 i'am talking about the extra "difficult to transform into fat" grams... not the basic... the maximum extra ...
the body can store up to (on average) 15g of carbs per 1 kilo. Let's say someone who's 70 kilos can store up to 1050g of carbs which is 4200 calories from carbs. But that's from zero though. You have to reach ketosis and then eat 4200 calories from carbs. The excess is mostly burnt as body heat which I experienced over eating on carbs. I started sweating at night when sleeping. And then after that the body can store carbs as fat but it's inefficient in humans. The process is called de novo lipogenesis which takes about 30% of calories from carbs to turn them into fat. It's efficient in herbivore animals such as cows and that's why they get fat from eating grass and grains.
By now we know that high carb is a recipe for disaster .
And keto and the bacon diet isn’t
@@Mijn24 Depends on your body type. Not for me it isn't. It's what is best.
High fat intake keeps my appetite as low as never before. When I ate sugar I was constantly hungry, so I was gaining and gaining. And how we can compare sugar and rice? Rice doesn't have fructose
When was this video recorded? In light of the information in "The Obesity Code" by Dr. Jason Fung, MD (published in 2016), the idea that starch and sugar don't make you fat is patently false.
potato n water go go go
That book and Diabetes Code are garbage. Lack of citations should make you nervous.
All these different diets all with scientific explanation, strict carnivore, strict vegan, starch based....can UA-cam decide which one is right and label the others as medical misinformation? 🤭
How much brown rice can you eat at each meal? And how many potatoes!
What a great guy!!
Im HCLF but sometimes we have to be critical to our gurus. Seriously- its not efficient to store the sugar as fat so the body just burns it of? that doesn't make any sense because its more efficient to have the calories as fat then burn them off. anyway, excess is burnt of but not because its more efficient and its also stored as glycogen
Thanks for sharing Jeff! Hard to believe that people still think that we should eat fat if we want to loose weight. There is no logic in that!
CCKL101 lost 3 stone doing a Keto diet
do some research and find out get this I thought about the fact a person canbecome glucose intolerant or resistant ot insulin in response to carb diets (even thos they might be crappy carbs) but never have I seen any researcher doctor or what not find that we become fat resistant or protein resistant (it doe release insulin some times higher than sugar) so insulin resistance is the cells resisting the sugar not the insulin, why? because nutrients are missing that the cells need to protect their sensitive cytoplasm from the sugar (sugar is gasoline both composed of same molecules just different arrangement) highly flammable from oxygen in our blood, sugar has to be shuttled to the mitrochondria in a buffered package to avoid damage to the inners of the cell. they don't have this problem with fat or protein. (as amino acids of course)
okay....i mean..that's good to know, but regardless, as an endomorph like myself (i dont wanna get into the debate of somatotypes) i HAVE to watch my complex carb (oatmeal) intake. I'm not gonna say watch my carb intake like everyone else cause that's SUCH a damn broad statement it's disgusting. I have to watch my COMPLEX carb intake cause if i eat a high complex carb diet (along with moderate amounts of protein, i'm gonna have major blood sugar spikes and crashes. Just cause it's called a complex carb (good carbs) and not a simple carb (junk food carbs) doesn't mean it can and will still do damage
I think northern ancestors were seasonal eaters.
Occasional trapped meats and fish all year long with tubers and greens in the spring then more vegetables in the summer and finally fruits in the fall.
Nuts and buried meats would get them through the harshest winters.☮️♥️
Dr. McDougall is on the right track overall but in my opinion his message has two limitations: 1. Promoting his diet as starch based communicates a bad way because many persons think of starch as including sugary foods, etc. 2. He argues that past societies used a lot of starch. however, just because something was used extensively in the past does not mean necessarily that it is the best thing to use in the future. This is just weak logic.
nice vid mate you rock!
What do this guy eat????
His statement is false. Starch/sugar AND fat will BOTH make you fat if you consume too much of either! But you are better off eating quality fat than starch or sugar.
+Gerry Bourque Obviously people seem to be having trouble consuming too much fat due to its extreme caloric density... more calories in the butter then the potato beneath.
+Gerry Bourque says the fat guy that doesn't understand glucose metabolism.
Agreed. This is misinformation and because he stated this for 40 years does not validate it as truth.
+Gerry Bourque Yeah -.- You can always force the body to do it if you drink soda or whatever. Body goes into emergency mode to burn off all the sugar that you forced into your bloodstream. Everything McDougall says only counts for whole foods. It's not an invitation to binge on sugar candy.
+steamed starch Agreed. I hear it all the time from people. After they eat a slice of cheesecake, they say "Oh man I just had soo much sugar!" I smh, ppl are soo misinformed. I eat all my starches fat-free.....but I usually have to make my own sauces and spreads to keep it low fat, but just as tasty ;)