Death of a Game: Final Fantasy 7 The First Soldier

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 15 лип 2024
  • Join this channel to get access to perks:
    / @nerdslayerstudioss
    Merch: teespring.com/stores/nerdslay...
    Patreon: / nerdslayer
    Amazon: www.amazon.com/?tag=nerdslayer...
    Humble Bundle:www.humblebundle.com/monthly?...
    Twitch: / nerdslayerrr
    Twitter: / nerdslayerg
    Discord: / discord
    0:00 Intro
    2:25 - Timeline Starts
    #DOAG . Death of a Game is a series dedicated to uncovering the mysteries surrounding the death of a game or company. nerdSlayer defines the term "death" in the context of the show as either... 1. Literally dead. 2. Had a mass exodus of players and never recovered (expectations etc). 3. The company ceased to exist. We follow a timeline of events, to uncover clues concerning why a game or company doesn't do well, and attempt to put it all together at the end for a deduction explaining how or why the game failed based on the evidence gathered.
    Sources:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_F...
    www.gameinformer.com/2022/10/...
    www.ign.com/articles/ff7-the-...
    www.ateam-entertainment.com/e...
    latam.ign.com/final-fantasy-v...
    latam.ign.com/final-fantasy-v...
    finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/...
    www.thegamer.com/final-fantas...
    gamerant.com/final-fantasy-7-...
    www.ffviifs.com/en/news/63/
    digistatement.com/final-fanta...
    press.na.square-enix.com/FINA...
    www.mmobomb.com/news/square-e...
    www.gamepur.com/guides/why-do...
    hypebeast.com/2021/11/final-f...
    mobilegamer.biz/final-fantasy...
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 839

  • @LuvzToLol21
    @LuvzToLol21 Рік тому +668

    I remember reading a news article titled "FF7 themed battle royale shutting down" and thinking "there was an FF7 themed battle royale?"

    • @Kogoso
      @Kogoso Рік тому +36

      This was my entire experience with the game as well, "This was a thing?" while reading about how it was shutting down.

    • @LuvzToLol21
      @LuvzToLol21 Рік тому +26

      @@Kogoso lol yeah same. You'd think that a beloved game like FF7 being turned into a battle royale, a mobile one at that, would be met with the same kind of outrage as something like Diablo Immortal. But this game's advertising and publication was practically non-existent. I think most people only learned it existed because of the shut down announcement.

    • @MetaReaperVIDEOS
      @MetaReaperVIDEOS Рік тому +6

      See i knew about it, but when I saw it was shutting down my reaction was more of a "wait thats still a thing?" Lol

    • @nicholasmorgan7609
      @nicholasmorgan7609 Рік тому

      I saw ads for it, but I didn't realize it was a battle royale

    • @KuroNewbie
      @KuroNewbie Рік тому +3

      Battle royales usually arent pay to win. And it didnt have a pc client. I bet the diablo immortal thing wouldnt be super big if it didnt have pc client

  • @TabletopJunk
    @TabletopJunk Рік тому +814

    This was definitely one of the most expected video game deaths in recent memory. What a bafflingly strange project.

    • @jamesklee
      @jamesklee Рік тому +50

      It really did feel out of place. Which is a shame, because the SOLDIER project could easily have been a great piece of FF7 lore to explore. I'm afraid we'll never get a fuller treatment of it, thanks to this weird failure of a game.

    • @ssdssp4857
      @ssdssp4857 Рік тому +43

      This could've been a great game if it was also made for PC.

    • @ugoboom
      @ugoboom Рік тому +46

      seeing fortnight ass dudes aim down sights and gun eachother down, inside aerith's church, is like the most visually offensive thing ive ever seen. this game was doomed

    • @randomphil8666
      @randomphil8666 Рік тому +7

      Not enough advertising and I don’t think it ran well either, well not on my iPhone at least.

    • @Aliens1337
      @Aliens1337 Рік тому +15

      Square has been DESPERATE to replicate the success of FF XIV. However, all their attempts at live service games have pathetically failed.
      - They fucked up Marvels Avengers, one of the biggest IPs in the world.
      - Babylon’s Fall was dead on arrival.
      - Most people don’t even know about the FF Battle Royal and the Chocobo Racing game.

  • @Agoraphoboy
    @Agoraphoboy Рік тому +399

    I played this for a while and all I could think about the entire time was how it needed to be on console/pc. I think it would've thrived

    • @Jerler91
      @Jerler91 Рік тому +15

      Agreed, i would have given this a chance before fortnite if it was on console... now its dying and i just started playing fortnite 😅

    • @Kaimax61
      @Kaimax61 Рік тому +7

      yeah, it should've been in PC/console atleast 1 month later. Look at genshin, it wouldn't be as big as it is now, if it was mobile only.

    • @scottwagner2566
      @scottwagner2566 Рік тому +6

      I can’t count the number of games that Eastern companies have released for mobile because mobile is big in Asia, then they have the shocked pikachu face when those mobile games don’t do nearly as well in the Western market. Things like WotV and Record Keeper (RIP) are the exception, rather than the rule. I would have tried this on PC or console, but I don’t have a good phone for a game like this.

    • @SalemKFox
      @SalemKFox Рік тому +1

      I remember being interested in trying the game out, but for the longest time it just would not run on Bluestacks or any emulator. So I just gave up trying to play it until I randomly got a new phone, that could actually play it. I was a little sad to see that the game was already about to be shut off in about a month. But hey, I enjoyed it while it lasted. managed to win a few games, kill a few CPUs.

    • @Tumpah
      @Tumpah Рік тому

      Funny thing is the game doesn't even support alot of mobile devices..

  • @sleepythemis
    @sleepythemis Рік тому +778

    As an FFXIV player, Square really is a baffling company. They attract so much talent and then do the dumbest shit with it and only when that talent puts their foot down to keep the rest of the company's nonsense away from their projects does it work out in the company's favor... and the suits never learn that. They just completely block from their memories how their actions ruin everything they touch. As most XIV players know, the game is only still alive because its producer refuses to let 80% of Square's usual bullshit touch it. Even the cash shop attached to it was a compromise he made primarily to keep them happy and have more leeway to run the actual game the way it should be run.

    • @astral_ragtime5365
      @astral_ragtime5365 Рік тому +129

      This is the most succinct summary of Square as a a company I've ever seen. Great talents and ideas brought low by corporate idiocy.

    • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
      @ohnosmoarlulcatz Рік тому +55

      It's not that surprising to me. Square Enix as a whole is nothing like the Squaresoft of old and they've adopted the western mentality of graphics over gameplay. This is what led to their disastrous game engines and why their games are almost all action RPGs now. Their obsession with spectacle has cost them what would have been an otherwise loyal fanbase and now has a split fandom between the old and the new that are at odds with one another. Some people want a return to form with Final Fantasy and FF7R's launch was bad enough to necessitate a hasty announcement of Ever Crisis to appease that crowd. On the other hand, you have fans who want to do with the old turn based systems entirely and want to preserve the shift to action RPG. They've literally created a no win situation for themselves.

    • @MrSoopSA
      @MrSoopSA Рік тому +57

      In Japanese business culture you risk everything by questioning your superiors. It isn’t like the West where management hires people for their expertise input; in Japan the management is never wrong and it’s the employees who must take blame. Don’t be fooled by something like Nintendo’s bigwigs taking pay cuts because of the Wii U either; they’re the exact same way and that was a PR move to deflect away from them making a bad business decision with the system.

    • @groidcel
      @groidcel Рік тому +18

      @@MrSoopSA spoken from someone who has never worked in the games or tech industry.
      If you had any skin in the game, you would know by now that project leaders and directors answer to no one except executives and the focus group. Factor in the rise of subcontractors, worker input has gone out the window.

    • @Dresdenstl
      @Dresdenstl Рік тому +12

      You'd think the bean counters would have learned by now since they've almost gone bankrupt multiple times now.

  • @konradzukowski213
    @konradzukowski213 Рік тому +301

    Not gonna lie, the first time I've heard about the existence this game was when Squenix made announcement of it getting shut down...
    Squenix has this odd habit of having crazy expectations from its games, but never bother to market them in any way, shape or form.

    • @vicetea86
      @vicetea86 Рік тому +17

      precisely ,as a FF fan i was surprised I'd never even heard of this. How is that even possible?

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 Рік тому +14

      @@vicetea86 I’d only heard of it because… of UA-camrs even if I can’t remember which one. Either Jim Stephanie Sterling, YongYea or AngryJoe. I think it was Sterling though. I was surprised that I hadn’t heard of it but “battle royale” immediately killed my interest in it. And if that hadn’t then mobile game would have. I’m in FF games for the RPG and story elements.
      But admittedly I haven’t enjoyed the series for awhile now outside FF14 and time ago FF11. Nine was the last mainline one I enjoyed. I’m not really sure why.

    • @PeterODatilo
      @PeterODatilo Рік тому

      same

    • @vicetea86
      @vicetea86 Рік тому

      @@mikoto7693 8 was the last one I'd really loved ,but that's primarily cuz I didn't get to play 9 really .10+ tho ,some love it but not for me. Final Fantasy was such a huge part of my childhood though that in general I still keep track of what they're doing, usually, lol.

    • @phantom-X2086
      @phantom-X2086 Рік тому +11

      They were hoping NEO The World Ends With You would sell like FF7, even though advertised it terribly and decided to showcase GOTG over NEO like about a few months before release. They even said NEO did not sell well even though it actually sold decently well.

  • @hudhouse99
    @hudhouse99 Рік тому +73

    That monster mode seems like a genius idea in another sense. Imagine a Battle Royale where when you get killed, you can choose to play as mobs around the map and help hunt down players and force them to move, but give better rewards / drops? Or you can choose to go and play other games. It can be a fun alternative mode-

  • @shinescythe
    @shinescythe Рік тому +44

    Despite the baffling nature question “why does this exist?”, the game actually looks pretty cool from the footage. Shame it shut down, I didn’t even know it released lol

    • @shinescythe
      @shinescythe Рік тому +1

      “nature” was a typo but 💁

    • @rastafari657
      @rastafari657 Рік тому +1

      I played it since the beta, it was actually dog shit for mobile, on pc it would have been decent at best.

    • @soggybiscotti8425
      @soggybiscotti8425 Рік тому +4

      @@rastafari657 I think it would have been brilliant for PC. I too played since beta and I think with a few alterations it could have been made brilliant. Against the garbage that is fortnite and whatnot, this absolutely was a winner if they had just seen past what I can only assume was the greed of mobile microtransactions.
      From the release of the game I wanted nothing more than to be able to play it on PC. It's pathetic that they made such a decent game and left it to rot on the app stores.

    • @dethcloud7763
      @dethcloud7763 10 місяців тому

      ​@@soggybiscotti8425agreed

  • @amienabled6665
    @amienabled6665 Рік тому +54

    How much money is ff14 bringing in that square can make flop after flop and still not be bankrupt?

    • @orrusfellin5150
      @orrusfellin5150 Рік тому +2

      Can you tell me about these flops? Because i don't really know about anything besides 15, this, and maybe stranger of paradise.

    • @DestroyerArcher
      @DestroyerArcher Рік тому +33

      @@orrusfellin5150 They're probably speaking Square Enix in general, so Outriders, Babylon's Fall, and Crystal Dynamics' Avengers also count. Possibly more I'm unaware of.

    • @lstsoul4376
      @lstsoul4376 Рік тому +30

      @@DestroyerArcher Chocobo gp, diofield chronicles and probably forspoken.

    • @lstsoul4376
      @lstsoul4376 Рік тому +5

      They have sony money lol

    • @onemorescout
      @onemorescout Рік тому +8

      Well it has a $15 monthly subscription and it has an estimated 2.2 million monthly active players so do the math

  • @crusaddy982
    @crusaddy982 Рік тому +49

    Lack of advertising is also important. I heard about it when it was revealed but as a hardcore FF14 player it was never advertised to me or any of my friends. That's missing a large portion of FF players they could have brought in

    • @JPogi690
      @JPogi690 Рік тому +1

      I actually tried this game when it was first launched and let me tell you the game in not optimized to be played in mobile, controls are awkward and the server lag is too much. This turns me off playing this game ever again.

  • @tigerfestivals5137
    @tigerfestivals5137 Рік тому +46

    I really wanted to play this game, but it being only on mobile was the killer for me. I didn't have a phone that would run it at the time and playing a shooter like it on mobile just didn't appeal to me

  • @pissqueendanniella4688
    @pissqueendanniella4688 Рік тому +16

    I really appreciate it when a creator also credits their editor by name when saying "me and [insert editor/team members] appreciate your support" as I know that most people don't make videos alone. As someone whose always worked behind the scenes, I appreciate people like you and people like tom. you two are great

  • @WalcomS7
    @WalcomS7 Рік тому +238

    What's super frustrating is that it was an amazing game for it's genre. People genuinely missed out not giving this one a chance, but it being locked to mobile when it has so many different mechanics was terrible. It legitimately was a fantastic game with tons of customization and play options that fit the world of FF7 well.

    • @ubermaster1
      @ubermaster1 Рік тому +52

      I legit would've played it if it had a genuine PC port, I may dislike most BRs, but if you slap FF on it, I'd give it a genuine shot.

    • @mikoto7693
      @mikoto7693 Рік тому +4

      @@ubermaster1 I legit would have tried it if it had been on PS4 for a reasonable price and it had a good story with it. More on the FF7 world would have been interesting.

    • @ShinFahima
      @ShinFahima Рік тому +3

      Yeah I would have been hyped for this if I knew it was a thing. And if it was PC-focused.

    • @insertcoolnamelater9334
      @insertcoolnamelater9334 Рік тому +2

      I would have tried it on PC or PS4, just because Final Fantasy. Mobile no thanks

    • @GELTONZ
      @GELTONZ Рік тому +5

      Yup. I played two rounds of it and said "Okay, if I could play this on a PC or Console? I'd be in."
      And the sheer overwhelming number of people who screamed this at SquareEnix is astounding. EVERYONE said this.

  • @Tecrogue
    @Tecrogue Рік тому +32

    I remember wanting to at least give this an honest try, but after the first patch post-beta my phone was never able to launch it without it crashing.

  • @jasonmasr
    @jasonmasr Рік тому +57

    One of my favorite gaming experiences in recent years; I was thoroughly entertained and played often. Should have been a PC /console release though.

  • @melon3109
    @melon3109 Рік тому +18

    I tried to give it a shot but I couldn't get a controller working with it. Even tried using pc for it through bluestack, but nah wouldn't work either. So I gave up. Decided to wait for a pc or switch port. Which I'm surprised never happened. But cool they considered it.

  • @josesosa3337
    @josesosa3337 Рік тому +11

    You always have to be careful with large player game modes. If enough players move on, your lobbies can't fill up, and your game might as well be dead.

  • @brawlertank
    @brawlertank Рік тому +30

    The thing is this game actually looks really good, I really like the look of the Dragoon class. This could easily have been a mainline game (or spinoff) as some of these mechanics would look pretty good if brought over to a party styled game like the most recent Tales of game.

  • @ninochaosdrache3189
    @ninochaosdrache3189 Рік тому +10

    I feel like the easiest way to lower the backlash with Bots is to have a setting where you can turn them on or off, so that both sides can decide how they want to play.

    • @monteroa7
      @monteroa7 Рік тому +2

      A PVE mode is what every BR game needs. I hate BRs with good gameplay when your standard match involves very little gameplay in some cases. (ex. someone sneaks up on you or vice versa)

  • @David.Marquez
    @David.Marquez Рік тому +15

    I found out about this one a week before it shut down. Looked like it had good potential, but that's how most of these things look.

  • @vicetea86
    @vicetea86 Рік тому +8

    that's so weird, personally being a FF fan and having a good mobile that could easily handle any of the Battle Royales I never even knew this game existed.
    Like the teaser at the end ,Champions online, being the spiritual successor of CoH/CoV I played it when it dropped immediately and it didn't live up to expectations. Not even close. I loved the "City of H/V" games very very much.

  • @Dras7
    @Dras7 Рік тому +17

    Damn i never paid attention to this game after the announcement since i tought it was some trash mobile cash grab. But now that i see the all the work that was behind it i would have liked to try this on pc it seems an actual interesting concept!

  • @captaincow
    @captaincow Рік тому +7

    Played this game a lot the first few months, and even popped in again every so often until it’s last day. It was a genuinely fun game to play, that the devs clearly cared about looking at the season 2/3 content that they put in the game. But the fact it was mobile only really did set the game back. I remember constantly on Twitter there would be comments of people asking for the game to be put on PC/Console, because the game was unplayable on bluestacks for being blacklisted or something. And even a month or so after release they put out a player survey asking what the players would like to see, and one of the options at the end was a PC/console release. Just a shame none of it came to be.

  • @ordonlink259
    @ordonlink259 Рік тому +13

    I remember experiencing the beta when it first released on mobile. I played one game. In that one game the lag was unbearable, I saw almost nobody, and the controls were not good. I remember specifically trying to connect a controller but only certain buttons worked. (Like i could aim but not fire or use all my materia.) I really believe if this released on anything besides mobile it would lasted way longer.

    • @Darca1n
      @Darca1n Рік тому +7

      Oh absolutely, but here's the issue with not being on mobile: They don't get that sweet, sweet, juicy mobile market chock full of hordes of whales, especially in the asian market as they're quite common there and mobile gaming is huge.

    • @raiga5-6-42
      @raiga5-6-42 Рік тому

      I played since day one until it shutted down.
      Devs were quite responsive to community feedback, lots of balancing here and there. Optimizations too.
      Though it's still janky or clunky at times when engaging on melee combat or even casting ranged magic.

    • @soggybiscotti8425
      @soggybiscotti8425 Рік тому

      With some minor alterations to melee combat and whatnot and released to PC, it could have been one of the all time greats. They just put little to no funding behind it and left it to rot on the app store. One can assume purely out of greed for that sweet, sweet mobile microtransaction mulah.

  • @machbass
    @machbass Рік тому +1

    It's like sitting down and ordering at a new restaurant only for the staff to inform me the shop is shutting down, in the middle of my meal.

  • @SniperKing-O
    @SniperKing-O Рік тому +32

    For a story and cool system, the First Soldier could have introduced allied factions within the Soldier army and a story tied into those factions.
    In FF7: Crisis Core, each of the three top tier 1st Class Soldiers, Angeal, Genesis and Sephiroth had each a dedicated fan base that you could check out through Zack, the main protagonist of the game.
    So, what if a storyline and faction system was revolved around these three Soldiers and you got the option to pick between which one you wanted to follow and the story would then be told from that factions perspective?
    Personally, I would have enjoyed following Sephiroth or Genesis' factions and getting learn more about them.
    Hopefully the game will one day come back and be reintroduced on consoles and PC.

    • @raiga5-6-42
      @raiga5-6-42 Рік тому +2

      I would divide the factions according to established lore
      Like Avalanche, soldier, and jenova children

    • @SniperKing-O
      @SniperKing-O Рік тому +1

      @@raiga5-6-42 That would probably be even better!

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому +9

    The video game series that turned into a luxury fashion brand

  • @risel56
    @risel56 Рік тому +1

    Oh man, that next episode preview had me worried for a second there. Had a lot of memories with that one and you made me think they were shutting it down. D:

  • @xiori01
    @xiori01 Рік тому +9

    What I liked about it was the Clean Interface. Unlike Apex with a shit ton of Icons on the screen left and right. Guns could be upgraded easily at a service station instead of scrounging for parts. It had a Huge selection of Emotes and Costumes. Even their Ping UI was better and had variety instead of just "Let's go Here" and "Enemy There!" But the most interesting and creative feature about The First Soldier was the Magic Materia spells. So many combinations that could assist you and destroy enemy units.
    I loved this game, but damn. Square really just dipping their finger in the Flavor Of The Month, then move on like it was just another free sample at the grocery store.

    • @raiga5-6-42
      @raiga5-6-42 Рік тому +2

      God i loved using tornado materia with dragoon glide.
      I can abuse the inertia to get away. And despite the zero damage, i can blast unsuspecting players away to environmental Hazzard or the danger zone.
      Yea and i wonder why they let such CEO run the company, en ef tee and the lately questionable company direction.

    • @soggybiscotti8425
      @soggybiscotti8425 Рік тому

      Had they just done a pc release, this game would have been incredible with some minor alterations to things like melee combat and whatnot.
      It trashed all over fortnite. Such a shame they just let it die out of heat can presumably only be greed for micro transactions on mobile.
      I'd have paid good money for a proper PC release, no doubt. It was the only truly great BR game out there, with something for new people, and old ff7 vets like myself.

  • @Bannerman1903
    @Bannerman1903 Рік тому +4

    I would love to see a video of your total analysis of how and why games fail, most common factors and warning signs etc. So many of these failed games have similar factors!

  • @jebern7723
    @jebern7723 Рік тому +7

    This game was quite fun, one of the better BR games in the market gameplay-wise. With the level up and the skills options its more like a cross between a battle royale and a PVP MMO.
    Some other factors that may have contributed is there seems to be some incompatibilities with certain phones, immediately preventing a chunk of people from even seeing it in the play store. I had to download it from a third party.
    Another is it has a high number of variables to manage in the middle of the match, you'll find yourself mentally exhausted after a few matches whereas in other BR you can "relax" at some point and just wait for the enemies.

    • @raiga5-6-42
      @raiga5-6-42 Рік тому

      The RPG aspect of levelling up from defeating player or random mobs was kinda bruh moment for a BR.
      But hey, at least you can do chocobo breeding. Because chocobo is far mor versatile than any vehicles laying around the map.
      Then Season 2 added a 'world boss'

  • @Skyshadow733
    @Skyshadow733 Рік тому +8

    Id love for you to do a death of a game for Deathverse: Let it die (once it officially shuts down I guess).
    I played it for about a week at launch but wow it died so quick, like not even 6 months even tho it was pretty polished and had a banger OST

  • @iGoNomNomOnUrFace
    @iGoNomNomOnUrFace Рік тому +8

    I really enjoyed this. You should do more prominent dead mobile games

  • @papasalvo
    @papasalvo Рік тому +5

    Don't mind me just doing my part to please the algorithm.
    I got a new PR the other day for Romanian deadlifts of 200lbs
    And of course I'm asking nicely for a death of the game covering puzzle pirates. I'm hoping since all the other comments got a like from nerdslayer that he has taken an interest in making one

  • @TheAlison1456
    @TheAlison1456 Рік тому +1

    nerdslayer videos are so comfortable
    that jazzy noir introduction, aah...

  • @R4ULTR
    @R4ULTR Рік тому

    YAAAAS I was waiting for this!!

  • @ElemXCR
    @ElemXCR Рік тому +9

    OH shit can't wait for the next one.
    That nostalgic game! If I could play it again, I'd be able to pay for some stuff lol
    But alas.. no time left :(

  • @Inosix
    @Inosix Рік тому +6

    I played during the beta. It's not a game that feels smooth to play unless you are using a controller (which I had to hack my phone to do). The netcode wasn't very good and it was choppy. And I was playing on an Samsung S21. It didn't feel great to play so I simply uninstalled during the beta.

  • @TheRandomYTMonkey
    @TheRandomYTMonkey Рік тому +4

    As one of the first seasons top players, the first season had everything down perfectly. The match's were decently quick to get into, (under 2 mins.) and it was unique as far as BRs go. The second season introduced lag and the real issue, the infamous T04 error. I tried to stream this game many times as well as many others. This error would kick players back to the menu screen and you would need to load back into the game with the T04 error code popping up. By the time the player would load back into the game they would be dead or already in the gas dying. Many players as well as myself tried reporting this issue many times, the most support would say about the issue is they didn't know what was causing it. Instead of addressing the error issues they introduced 60fps. This made it clear their target audience was high end devices. Season 3 made things even worse as a melee glitch started popping up and went unaddressed almost the entire season. Each season there after just got worse, to4 errors prevailed and lag just made any match's unbearable. The new map, while being a nice addition, was a let down as well. The map felt under developed and spread out. They also missed so big opportunities to add in classic zones and buildings. The added classes, again while being nice also felt underwhelming. The extra modes were far to much while the player base was dying. Instead of all these extras and cashgrabs if they would have considered the player base more they might have been able to improve the areas that needed to be fixed and helped the player bases grow back through streamers and ads. I could go on alot more on this subject but it is a bit of a sore subject as I spent a good amount of money and time on this game.

    • @goranisacson2502
      @goranisacson2502 Рік тому +2

      Very interesting since Nerdslayer doesn't really mention technical issues in the episode, beyond that the game aimed for high-fidelity phones to the exclusion of the wider market. Now I'm curious if these technical issues were widely reported and applied to all devices, or if they were primarily something that applied to people who weren't on monster phones? I feel like if it applied to every player across the board these issues would be more widely discussed, as that also sounds like another clue to the games demise and casts the dev team and their skill at making a game for mobile devices in a worse light.
      Also, just because I'm curious- were there really no storynode here except the basic premise of "this takes place in this part of the timeline and you're a newcomer hoping to get into the soldier program"? No lore or ongoing story beyond that at all?

    • @aren_gee
      @aren_gee Рік тому +2

      @@goranisacson2502 No storyline at all. You create a character, enter BR tutorial, then queue for a match. That's it.

    • @goranisacson2502
      @goranisacson2502 Рік тому

      @@aren_gee Man that is INSUB-freaking-STANTIAL. No nutrition at all, even after the intro cutscene hinted there were stories to tell.

    • @raiga5-6-42
      @raiga5-6-42 Рік тому +1

      I didnt even know melee glitch existed since i only use melee to mobs lol, could you elaborate on that ?
      And the battle pass is interestingly a one time purchase. Only if you reached lv 75 though.

    • @TheRandomYTMonkey
      @TheRandomYTMonkey Рік тому +1

      @@goranisacson2502 the lag and T04 errors were happening to anyone not using 8gb processors in their devices. It was reported by most of the FB community. Most of the time it went completely unanswered and the few times the support team did respond it was always the same thing.

  • @pelleas7001
    @pelleas7001 Рік тому

    "We have to get the elephant out of the room"
    Followed by what was immediately shown in the video....
    That got a good chuckle out of me.

  • @JosephReference
    @JosephReference Рік тому

    oooh did not expect to see this game on here so quickly

  • @houbsmars
    @houbsmars Рік тому +2

    Weirdly enough, I enjoyed my time with it. The game combining BR with Final Fantasy elements like bossfights, duels, spells, and random events was awesome! I remember actually taking down Bahamut Sin solo and I felt like an absolute badass! There was a player who ran up to me afterwards so I obliterated him using the legendary gun he dropped, and then won the match by casting Flare with my Bahamut summon I got as reward for beating the boss. It was so sick!

  • @Reekumon
    @Reekumon Рік тому

    Seeing A team's Dark Summoner intro after so many years was so nostalgic

  • @AppleShrapnel
    @AppleShrapnel Рік тому +1

    Oh boy, Champions Online next. That was the first mmo I ever hit the level cap on. :P
    Looking forward to the deepdive on that one, for sure.

  • @Vaniity_Velvet
    @Vaniity_Velvet Рік тому

    I was in a Hit-and-run a few years back. The paramedics thought my spine was shattered and told me the surgeon would likely have to fuse parts of my vertebrate together. Luckily the other paramedic spotted a bench on the way to the hospital, they sat me down on it and within 5 mins I was back to normal, spine healed, wounds closed.

  • @greenhowie
    @greenhowie Рік тому +1

    Still got Babylon's Fall, Chocobo GP and the other one to dig up nerdSlayer, gonna be a busy spell for ya.

  • @Soadaa5656
    @Soadaa5656 Рік тому +1

    Ohh excited about this one!

  • @giabaohoangtrong2051
    @giabaohoangtrong2051 Рік тому +1

    another most baffled death is Sakura Revolution, only near 6 months after its launch. SEGA poured hundred millions of yen into its development and, uh, Hideo Baba happened

  • @chronowolf4734
    @chronowolf4734 Рік тому +1

    I heard about this game the first time it was announced. And the second time I heard about it was just now, with you telling me it's dying

  • @AzureGreatheart
    @AzureGreatheart Рік тому +7

    I enjoyed what little I played of the game, but I hated the mobile control sheme. I would’ve played this game a lot if it was on PC, and I’m still bitter that it never got one; to me, Square killed this game through stubbornly sticking to their inexplicable mobile exclusivity, and I will always bring this up whenever the game is mentioned. I’m particularly irritated that they actually *planned* to do that initially, and just didn’t.

  • @BOSSASSAURUS
    @BOSSASSAURUS Рік тому

    I remember downloading this game to my phone only to forget to ever try it. Had this game on my phone from start to finish and never even tried it

  • @vastayanvixen685
    @vastayanvixen685 Рік тому +4

    I got so sad when I heard they were shutting it down, had a very interesting concept, and I think it would've done better if it was on all systems rather than just mobile

  • @HeadsetHistorian
    @HeadsetHistorian Рік тому

    I really wish I had tried this, just to explore the map more than anything else.

  • @AmyBohemi
    @AmyBohemi Рік тому +1

    I really wondered why I never before even heard about this game. That was until you said the words 'mobile only'. Now I can happily watch the video about a game I couldn't care less about both the genre and the platform 😃

  • @novachikun
    @novachikun 11 місяців тому

    Once I learned this game was a Battle Royale, I knew this was the spiritual follow-up to the gameplay of Dirge of Cerberus.

  • @leowong8280
    @leowong8280 Рік тому +3

    some good points made that were well discussed within the community. however the video gave me a feeling that you also didn't stick around to play season 3. I do hope they learned from this mistake and release a pc/console version a couple years down the road.

  • @zepwafels
    @zepwafels Рік тому

    Nice vids man, waiting for the Mordhau video, thats such a low hanging fruit

  • @ohnosmoarlulcatz
    @ohnosmoarlulcatz Рік тому +2

    The First Soldier is one of those games that no one asked for, but is jumping into the hype hoping people would get a reskin of an existing game because it fits a theme that people might be familiar with.

  • @Tokyorunaway
    @Tokyorunaway Рік тому +2

    Amazing game with an even more amazing community. We've all discussed until we are blue in the face why this game shut down, and it's a shame. Met some of the best people and made several close friends here. I purchased a USB to HDMI cord for 20 bucks so I could play on my TV, then bluetooth a PS4 controller. So it was possible to "bypass" the mobile aspect of the game, so it felt just like playing on a console. It was bot heavy. But I kind of enjoyed that. You'd have like 4 real teams in a game, so you would have time to level up and get equipment and once all the real teams met up towards the end it always made for great fights. I didn't start until the first day of season three, but once I found my teammates, we played damn near every night for hours. Sad to see it go, but so grateful for the experience.

  • @chrysanthes8751
    @chrysanthes8751 11 місяців тому +1

    Watching this in preparation for the Ever Crisis video.

  • @wolfgangus3381
    @wolfgangus3381 Рік тому +2

    I was so excited for this as a Final Fantasy fan and ex-FPS player that's been curious about the BR genre. I downloaded the game on release, bought the season pass, and then failed to connect to the servers day 1. Day 2 I managed to complete the tutorial and get into a game, only for it to crash and realize that my phone had no hope of running it. I have a gaming PC and several consoles so I attempted to play it on an Android emulator, only to realize that Square Enix had gone out of their way to make sure the game can't be run through emulators. From then on, I checked up on the game every several months to see if it was emulator-playable yet. Never happened sadly.
    Such a waste of what could've been a fun, if niche game. Even Maximilian Dood was interested in it until learning it was mobile only.

  • @fufsayd
    @fufsayd Рік тому

    Dude, where you got the soundtrack, miss this game so much.

  • @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni
    @Suika_Ibuki_The_Drunk_Oni Рік тому +1

    The very idea behind this concept is just baffling. Like, did square learn nothing from Dirge of cerberus?

  • @OrenjiArms
    @OrenjiArms Рік тому +1

    “Why this mobile only battle royale died…” I think I figured it out

  • @hermitcard4494
    @hermitcard4494 Рік тому +1

    Final Fantasy Dissidia's audience:
    RPG players: We dont like fighting games.
    Fighting players: Why is this trying to be so complicated? I just want to FIGHT.

  • @TimSkovblleHolst
    @TimSkovblleHolst Рік тому +1

    Looks like you can do 5 Death of a Game just on Square Enix this month.

  • @Omgsarge
    @Omgsarge Рік тому +9

    NerdSlayer :"There is an issue with the audience in the first place: How many Final Fantasy Fans were playing on mobile?"
    Squenix Guy with Diablo T-Shirt: "Do you guys not have Phones?"

  • @otherprisma7354
    @otherprisma7354 Рік тому

    With the recent shutdowns of some live service games, you have a lot of material now to work with.

  • @VampyKitsune
    @VampyKitsune 6 місяців тому

    When I saw the commercial for this game I knew it was going to fail.

  • @ShooterQ
    @ShooterQ Рік тому

    I had no idea this existed until just now.

  • @eyoshinthemaximum
    @eyoshinthemaximum Рік тому +1

    Death of a game: Guild Wars 1 would be interesting as while it seems pretty cut and dry, there are actually a lot of factors as to why Guild Wars 1 was abandoned

  • @SorasShadow1
    @SorasShadow1 Рік тому +3

    it's worth pointing out that Final Fantasy 14's whole ethos was very different from anything Square Enix churns out today, it and FF11 are both from *very* different eras with teams that have the leeway to stick to their guns because they're such long running profitable success stories.
    FF14 is turning 10 years old this year, so "they did it before with ff14" was the SE of *a decade ago*

  • @whitemage34
    @whitemage34 Рік тому

    I played a lot of that game I went from a master Dragoon to a Card tossing Blue Chocobo 🥺

  • @FrozenSkyes1
    @FrozenSkyes1 Рік тому

    I remember wanting to play and when it came to my region it got canceled some months later!

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому +1

    Never heard of it, but there are way to many games named Final Fantasy VII so I’m not surprised to learn of its existence.

  • @lovareths569
    @lovareths569 Рік тому +2

    A great game, this online game able to kept me playing for whole 3 seasons (about 7 months). For comparation, i played Genshin Impact like 4 months and got bored, 3 weeks for online Ni No Kuni. I still hope that SE will bring it back somehow.

  • @Nya13864
    @Nya13864 Рік тому

    I can't wait to see you do the tales of mobile games, especially tales of luminaria. That one had loads of potential but only lasted 6 to 8 months. It's didn't even have a 1 year anniversary.

  • @tHeWasTeDYouTh
    @tHeWasTeDYouTh Рік тому +2

    I think it is insane the amount of money Square Enix has lost trying to make their live service games work. FF7 First Soldier, Babylon's Fall, Marvels Avengers...... their insane greed is to blame and now all the CEO talks about is blockchain games and invested all the money in them.....

  • @davidwenzel717
    @davidwenzel717 Рік тому +1

    Might have something to do with as a big final fantasy fan I had no idea this game was a thing till this video lol

  • @kiss-shot_is_bae
    @kiss-shot_is_bae Рік тому

    I didn't even knew that this game had come out until they announced that they were shutting it down

  • @eyesofdeathperception6730
    @eyesofdeathperception6730 Рік тому

    God damn that was fast.

  • @LaserDroid
    @LaserDroid Рік тому

    You can summon Sephiroth. Now im upset a little bit i never got to play.

  • @Verinius
    @Verinius Рік тому +2

    I'd like to bring in more depth to the discussion here.
    Tldr: Game is amazing. But the game was never fully optimized.
    Season 1 was very bumpy. The game crashed a LOT even on high end devices, let alone mid tier devices. There were also balance issues with Chocobos being overpowered allowing people to get 1-hit KO'd by a flying Chocobo kick. The max HP you could have is 200 HP at Lvl 10. Chocobo kicks in Season could deal 300 damage, way above the max hp. The Firaga materia was also overpowered in the hands of a Sorcerer due to the sheer damage it can deal, reaching over 220+ damage. Again, above the max hp cap.
    Season 2 made very good balance changes, added tons of new weapons, and added the Bahamut boss in the map. The Bahamut raid event was undoubtedly THE BEST event in the game because 30+ people would coordinate in a Discord server call just to complete the Bahamut raid quest. However, the game still crashed occassionaly. While they did reduce the crash frequency, there was severe FPS drops in large scale battles. The crashes could even be seen in the first East Asia server tournament. Competitors were getting disconnected mid-tournament.
    Season 3 was so-so. It had nice content, but not as epic as Season 2. They made very important balance changes like nerfing the Gravity materia, removing OP season 2 weapons, and introducing new accessories which changed the meta builds. However, this is also where they introduced a sketchy gacha mechanic with low drop rates for the best skins. However, the new map and games modes were fun. The community was solid, positive, and amazing for the most part. But as you guessed it, the game still crashed.
    By Season 4 a lot of people already left including myself. The Season 4 update was very underwhelming. You had the Trickster class, a new car, and an expanded map. It paled in comparison to Season 2 and 3.
    P.S. For reference, I was a Day 1 player and became an FF7FS Ambassador by Season 3. If anyone is interested, you can find high level gameplay clips in my channel while playing in East Asia server, which is the most competitive server in the game.

  • @malicekerendu3574
    @malicekerendu3574 Рік тому +2

    Could you look into dragalia lost? No video, just research. That games story is wild.
    It was nintendos first original mobile ip and a gacha made by cygames.
    It was made with insane care, but nintendo refused to advertise it. It seemed like self sabotage.
    It would've been my favorite game ever if it weren't a gacha. And we fans were hopeful the ip would branch out to consoles and pc.
    But it was shut down over a month ago

  • @Catspirit123
    @Catspirit123 Рік тому +1

    One of the most “who was this for?” Games I’ve seen in awhile

  • @Loriddian
    @Loriddian Рік тому +10

    Sad because i enjoyed this. Needed console support to be perfect

    • @rech.5374
      @rech.5374 Рік тому +7

      @@AzureRoxe bro chill

    • @Loriddian
      @Loriddian Рік тому +5

      @@AzureRoxe your wrong. Pc and console support would mean more players and money to be made. Thats just Basic business .

    • @flow185
      @flow185 Рік тому

      It failed because the genre is over saturated and the medium was extremely bad but chinese money yk.

    • @Blackpapalink
      @Blackpapalink Рік тому +2

      @@AzureRoxe I haven't met a single person who prefers playing a shooter on mobile over PC, even the CoD Mobile crew. Touch screens and shooters do not mix well and it shows. I would have given the game a shot if it wasn't mobile only.

    • @Loriddian
      @Loriddian Рік тому

      @@Blackpapalink i play cod mobile on the big screen with a Ps4 controller.

  • @mortenera2294
    @mortenera2294 Рік тому +1

    Literally people every time they hear about a game closing down: "This was a thing?"

  • @YukitoOnline
    @YukitoOnline Рік тому +1

    I didn't notice it existed until they announced it's going to be shutdown..

  • @MochaMicah
    @MochaMicah Рік тому

    I remember wanting to try this but figured it might get a pc port or console port eventually. But I'm not surprised it failed hard enough to get shut down.

  • @taikoroll
    @taikoroll Рік тому

    never knew this game existed until now

  • @Trogdor1984
    @Trogdor1984 Рік тому +3

    Bizarre! Coming at it as a long time Final Fantasy fan since the 6th game...I remember the original announcement for First Soldier - then genuinely think THIS video is the first time i've heard it even mentioned since :/ Not sure why it never once popped up in adverts or in the Play store on my phone, i'd just assumed the game had been pushed back for further development and would hear something when it released! No idea what Square are playing at advertising-wise.

  • @Bearasites
    @Bearasites Рік тому

    This game was only brought to light to me from Heather Anne Cambell, from Get Played Pod. And for the remaining months. It was a very enjoyable thing to witness. Sad it’s gone.

  • @djukor
    @djukor Рік тому +1

    Honestly First soldier should have just been a Coop game whit an optional PVP mode. And obviously bean playable on non mobile devices. Hell even a Switch exclusive port would have helped.
    As i assume more people have switches than mid tier phones.

  • @SeriousBeats
    @SeriousBeats Рік тому

    I remember that titanfall mobile game and how fun it was and the amount of money I spent. Shortly after it was pulled. Never wanted to spend money on mobile games…..ever again

  • @maxspecs
    @maxspecs Рік тому

    Would love to hear more coverage on other mobile FF games, such as ATB, Mobeius, and Record Keeper.

  • @JohnWellingtonWells
    @JohnWellingtonWells Рік тому +2

    If this was released on PC I would definitely have given it a try. I've never been interested in BR games but this one actually looks pretty fun and unique, and it's always fun revisiting old FF7 locations. Shame.

  • @brogan_live8537
    @brogan_live8537 Рік тому

    I played this game the entire time it was out until they announced the closure. It was really fun and a nice twist on battle royal games with classes, class progression, and spells. Sad to see it go

  • @incidentdecorate8090
    @incidentdecorate8090 Рік тому

    I played this last year and honestly, it was somewhat fun. Somewhat sad to see it go, but Square should have really saw this coming.

  • @StrifeSoul990
    @StrifeSoul990 Рік тому +1

    I love how everything FF 7 has to have Sephiroth even when it makes zero sense. If this is 30 years before ff7, he would have been a child an not the legendary solider or villain he woul become

  • @deathsycte
    @deathsycte Рік тому

    As a final fantasy die hard fan, I never even knew this game existed. RIP, wouldn't have played it on mobile though

  • @Sivick314
    @Sivick314 Рік тому +1

    "why did this MOBILE-ONLY title die?" i think we figured it out

    • @blairfujin
      @blairfujin Рік тому

      @@Feasco how many of those are action heavy and have graphics that melt most phones?