Why FF7: The First Soldier Ended Up Being A Complete Failure
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Square Enix are always keen to experiment with the Final Fantasy brand, but sometimes it just doesn't pan out. And in the case of Final Fantasy 7: The First Soldier, that's very much the case.
In this video, we will explore the events that led up to The First Soldier being terminated and explain why, in our opinion, it can only be deemed as a complete failure.
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I had tried the game shortly after it came out, but the touch controls were just so awkward to use that I only played like three matches. Ironically, after I got a new phone I decided to give it another go and managed to connect my PS4 controller to it via Bluetooth. Won my first match with no issues. I strongly believe the game would've faired much better with a PC/console release instead of mobile.
Wait, you can use your PS4 controller on your phone? I was wondering if I could buy either the PS4 or PS5 controller separately without buying the whole PS4 or PS5 console.
I do prefer buying an Xbox controller without buying the Series S or X console, and if the Xbox controller can play non-Xbox games on my phone.
@@Isaac-gh5ku Oh my...you never knew you could buy a controller without the console?! Imagine if that were true, we'd all quit playing consoles, lol. My sibling has worn out so many controllers alone with playing fighting games on my PS4, it would be impossible to play them if I had to buy a whole console each time we needed a new controller 😅
While maybe finding a PS5 controller might be difficult (just given the short supply of PS5 stuff in general, unless you don't mind paying scalped prices), getting a PS4 controller on its own is quite easy. If you're in America, visit your local Game Stop or, globally, you should be able to buy one online.
Oh, and I highly advise against bootleg or knockoff versions of the controller. A PS4 controller might still cost about $60 brand new, but the difference in quality between it and a knockoff is immense.
Sadly, Square Enix have reverted to a Japan-centric model of business, which is great for the devs when making the content, but not so great if that means following the mobile gaming trend in Japan without considering whether or not that's the right choice for the game.
@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley Companies like 8bitdo and GameSir make "better than" 1st party controllers. Also I don't think that's what that guy was really asking however. I get the impression he knew buying separate controllers without the system was possible although I couldn't then tell you what his actual question was however.
@@fredspofford Eh, that was the best I could make of the comment so that's why I answered as I did, lol. And cool, I've never heard of those companies and will have to check them out!
If it had hit PC and consoles, it would've seen at least modest success.
I HATE how mobile crazy Square has gotten
It is a tragedy that it is mobile exclusive.
yup
That's the worrying thing about ever crisis there trying to stick it on mobile and not where the final fantasy franchises fans are and thats PC and console.
@@thelastquincy1457 Nah. There's a large FF fan base on mobile... For RPGs. Just not for FF battle royales that need as large a player base as possible to capture a small percentage of to fund the game through MTX.
The concerning thing about Ever Crisis is the scale, remaking every project in the compilation as a RPG. And the episodic format. Those are the truly concerning things. I mean, in my opinion.
You know what might've helped a lot? Putting it on other platforms and not just mobile.
Don't you guys have phones?
@@Buugipopuu phone games suck !! They just try to drain you of your cash and suck your time away.
@@jc7997aj Eh I've been enjoying Nier Reincarnation and I haven't spent a dime on it.
@@rueceless7580 woa, one whole game out of millions, guess mobile games are worth it now
@@JustSkram And I'm sure you've played every mobile game to know they are all bad right? =P
I do believe that the mobile only release *was* the issue here... Although I'll speak for myself. While I was bemused about a FFVII Battle Royale, the stuff I've seen afterwards made it look fun albeit different. But one thing stopped me absolutely of playing it at all, even though I did download it: touch controls. I'm not a big fan of them, specially in a shooter. That put me off 100% to not even wanting to try it at all. But if, it had been released on PC or consoles, I would at least have given it a shot, since I prefer the controls. Alas, that was not to be. Shame.
I loved fs. I hope they reconsider and make a console release
They even advertised that it worked on bluestacks so they knew pc players wanted it but they never even checked if itd run and I don't think the bluestacks team ever got it to work not that it was their responsibility in the first place. I wanted to play it but my phone wont run it and yeah didnt want touch controls idk why they couldn't have atleast put it on Switch.
I hate touch controls too, that's why I bluetoothed my ps4 controller.
yep, but even games like Diablo Immortal that include controller support are drastically better at touch controls than this game was, like tons of other mobile games.. but yeah I also use a Razer Kishi for my phone for Diablo Immortal and COD Mobile and it’s great!
@@Haunted_Brew same I used my Xbox controller 👍🏾
The overall milking of FFVII is just too much in my opinion. They are other great stories and characters in this series.
I agree. I'm happy this failed. Square needs to be drop down a peg. They are to greedy now and they need a smack in the face
That was the plan.
Not to remake the original game and get it over with.
Ff6 needs a remake imo
ff6 deserves a remake on what ff4 got... not a mobile port like shit remake
@@prinnyDooD. I agree with that 100%
As one of the main players of the game, Ambassador (who was able to talk with the devs directly), and Championship Winner. I can firmly say they let the game die, even when giving feedback to help the game but feedback wasn’t listened too. I wish the game wasn’t ending but decisions have been made.
It was trash
Certainly a sad time for an already amazing game with so much potential.
Should have been console or PC.
It just wasn't meant to be for us
I knew another "Ambassador"(Whom I won't name because people who know, probably know exactly who it is) who shilled for this game so hard that when I criticized it he literally kicked me from his Discord and banned me from his Twitch. He wasn't the only one doing it either, that also killed the game too, cause it hurt the community engagement.
Remember when games were made that couldn't be permanently shut down? Any live service game that gets shut down should probably be required by law to have an offline mode update to preserve it.
A lot of these games can be preserved and hosted on private servers. It's been done, and if a game is truly worth it, a community will arise and preserve it. I don't think anyone will cry that they can't play Anthem in 20 years.
@@CheddarGetter
Alternatively, I can just, pop in most other "abandoned" games and play them. If I want to play Goldeneye007 for whatever reason, I can just play it.
It's true that fan servers can be made, but it's also true that very often these projects are also mortal, in addition to losing features from the original release. A good example is Sonic Runners, whose fan revival lost 60-80% of its original content due to most of it being lost to the aether -- and once those fan servers become inconvenient to host (cost, commitment, etc), they'll also go down, and now the game's dead yet again.
Fan servers are an amazing achievement, but they just kick the can down the curb; it's an inferior option to just being able to _play_ them offline. Online-only service games are horrible for game preservation, innately.
While I am absolutely someone who cares a lot about preservation and I would agree that there should be some legislation about how companies can destroy their own games, we also have to be honest: in 99% of all mobile games, the online dependency is completely baked in. There is no game left if you take out the online element.
@@CheddarGetter Of course it can be done, but the reverse engineering work that's required is immense. And then there's the fact that mobile applications tend to become incompatible way quicker than other traditional software, so you'd have to do some hacking to maintain the client software as well, it's just a pain in the dick for a game that most likely everyone will have forgotten about within a month.
@@robinmattheussen2395 I generally agree that it would be great to have some legislation in place that requires offline versions to kick around -I miss Dissidia NT proper for instance. What I don’t agree with however, is such government oversight that overrides the will of the IP holders, even if it disenfranchises the fans. Such oversight is great for things like labour relations and financial oversight but gets messy beyond that.
I’ve asked myself these questions for ages now myself and recently I’ve come to the conclusion that the fans have done it to themselves but not necessarily realising it. The reality of the world is that games require profit in order to exist/continue and yet consumers continually rebel against that which stands as a way to continue their favourite titles. Example follows:
The outcry against NFTs in gaming for less than AAA titles sent a clear message; gamers support high end content and experiences but do not support alternative funding methods. NFTs were the first true bridge between true F2P games and gacha style games. Unlike in the case of a gacha where investments are lost at the close of a game, NFTs are considered ownership a la stocks in a company in many countries that have modernised their blockchain legislation. To that end, rather than rally behind NFTs and creating a consortium that advocates on behalf of the gamer, we ranted and troll posted with our arms crossed like children. If you review Square Enix’s company filings, you will see that there is a cost associated with those who held NFTs in the game and the “value” that must be met or compensated. Long story short, if gamers and indeed people in general get ahead of companies on blockchain ownership concepts, companies will be beholden to the NFT owners and their concerns -not unlike shareholders.
We gotta stop being reactive and start being proactive toward how we consume media, lest it consume us. The choice has always been our own and gachas survive because they are gambling. A F2P game of high quality cannot exist without funding.
If only they listened...
I remember hearing about First Soldier and looking into it not too long after it first released, but my interest quickly evaporated when I found out that it was a mobile exclusive. I have never had a good experience with a 3D mobile action game, and nothing I was seeing suggested that First Soldier would change that. If I had the opportunity to play it on PC with a keyboard and mouse, I would have gladly given it a chance.
Me if it was on Ps4
The mobile market is many many many many times bigger over all consoles and PC combined. Nothing would've changed had they launched it out of mobile.
Battle royales are an oversaturated market of half assed games where the top few own the market. Shoving out one hoping to milk ff7 nostalgia was a bad call
I wont lie, i played first soldier alot. I actually had LOADS of fun in it… its a shame it stuck to only phones and that was it. It hurt it dearly… it was such a unique and fun battle royale too
It really looks cool. Such a shame.
I agree, even though I never downloaded it I was interested when I first saw it but when I found out that I could only download it on my android I was incredibly disappointed and was hoping that it was going to come out for PS 💁♂but...
I loved it too. And I stopped playing it about 5 days ago. I played it off and on over the year and have gotten my non ff friends to play it since it is battle arena like they are used to. Easy to say, our teams always were number 1 in ranked events. Which felt hollow...
@@cstaie85 i always played solo on teams and got 1st quiet abit because of how good it felt to play. I just wish they coulda at least ported it over to switch cause mobile only is just a death sentence for a game these days
@@pyroronnie2473 that's the biggest freaking shame of this game they never thought to listen to one of the most important parts of people's complaints that was to port it over on a console
This game really should not have been shackled to mobile. It really could have come into its own if it had a release on bigger, more powerful, more sit-down-and-play platforms.
True, i hope in four of five years the ramade this game for consoles.
Fortnite and PUBG players aren't exactly the type to care for RPGs. They tend have totally different tastes altogether. I personally believe that them thinking they could rope battle royale players into checking out RPGs by giving them an RPG flavored battle royale was a flawed if not outright dumb thought process from get go.
Was a great game, the mobile release only killed it, if they would have released it on pc as well it would have found a following
CODM is mobile only, but its successful. It's those content creators that talked trash and assumed the worst about the game that destroyed the people's perception of it, making them not wanting to try the game at all even after lots of fixes and improvements.
You need to accept it was just a bad game that no one wanted.
@@nerdzomnia Or maybe it was the lack of advertisement, supposedly ignoring player feedback, and toxic "Ambassadors" sucking Square Enix off instead of being a voice for the community. But that's a perspective of someone that's only seeing the fallout.
preemptively (haven't watched yet) full disclosure, I paid for 2 season passes to get avatars I wanted.
1. no ports
2. too expensive
3. modes too fluid
Game was really fun, and Im quite pissed my money was wasted on a game cancelled after 1 year. I expected to play for 3-4 years. At least.
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I was incredible hyped for the game. I spend an incredible amount of time mastering the game during the beta and beyond. Earning nearly all the achievements, including feats that are virtually impossible in other Battles Royales (the worst of which being achievements winning by doing little to nothing).
I managed to hit the equivalent of Grand Master, being First Class, and would be eligible for Top 500 if I wasn't a busy professional.
Hundreds of hours and ~$240 later (1/6 of that value Playstore points) I'd say the time was worth it.
Community was not quirky or toxic, the game ran as well as it could,yet surprisingly not as well on the highest end Android devices, and the predatory Gacha swore me off ever engaging with that ever again (I'd rather pay no more than $10-16 after taxes for an outfit set in any given game).
The best feature Battle Royales should adopt is purchasing the first season pass and including the following season pass as an earnable reward.
I suggested as much during the beta and they implemented it 😁.
Gameplay may be unmatched in other battle Royales and wish it found new life on PC.
They tried to market a battle royal game to a community who had no interest in a battle royal game, of course it failed.
I dont understand how, at this point, Square dont understand its audience yet.
Because they are dedicated to willfully missing the point every time.
I would have played it if it was more accessible. It's fine to put it on mobile, but at least put it on consoles and pc too. Genshin impact does that and that game does really well.
I dont play genshin but that's what they should be aiming for interms of succeeding with a game like this.
The goal should be to port a game to mobile and it not feel mobile. Even on console and PC, genshin feels like mobile trash
First off, great video on First Soldier.
I was in the original wave of Ambassadors for the game, and was in the program til the final season. I was there for all the beta tests, and started making guides on my channel to help people get started.
FF7, is easily my favourite game of all time and I had such high expectations for this game. I normally hate shooters, and this was the only one I've ever enjoyed. The Amabassador program in theory at the start gave me such hope for this game, as their community representative did a fantastic job at the start communicating with us. But the issue is, things really never got done.
I still firmly believe if this game got released on console/PC as well as phone, it would have seen a much better success. It's been very disheartening that they thrown this game in the garbage, but it seems like it had to be done as they didn't want to actually fix any of their issues.
100% agree. I felt it was pretty good on mobile... but would have been much better suited to console or pc.
yeah but who asked ff7 BR not many, wish square would just stick RPG's
The biggest roadblock for this game for me was that controller on phones is shit. There's no way around it. Console would have carried the game.
Was it too much to ask for a PC port at least if not consoles :/
The main issues with how Square Enix handles games like this is that they are restricted to mobile (which turns away a lot of people, regardless of the game's quality), and the fact that they don't listen to the feedback from its player base, even though they offer the option to provide it. The sadder part of it is that it's not just The First Soldier.
"which turns away a lot of people"
Not in Asia. Being on mobile is a draw for them.
@@Heymrk Asia is fine and all,, but it isn't a big sell in the rest of the world in this industry and Square Enix could've made it multi-platform if they wanted to. If they wanted a Fortnite they could've done a PC Port and console ports as well as mobile and they could've had their popularity in the Asia market.. But instead they alienated their fanbase then alienated their actual playerbase on this game. So I am not particularly feeling bad for this company.. They should've learned better more than 10 years ago. They're not some tiny game workshop company in Japan trying to bounce off of being a engineering company anymore.. THey're a major player in the gaming industry and their current approach just alienates everyone in lieu of Japanese consumer demands (which is literally the opposite of what the rest of the world and yes including countries like Korea, China, Taiwan want in terms of consumer demand and customer satisfaction.)
and not just 'restricted to mobile', but REALLY restricted, like you couldn't even play it on Bluestacks, it was designed not to run on any emulator.
@@Hugsloth If I remember correctly, eventually it started working fine on the Nox player
Asia market have big spenders unlike europe and america
I'm not joking, I honestly didn't even know the game was out already 😳
I didn’t even know it existed
This right here.
I didn't even know what it looks like
People generally don’t like playing Battle Royales on mobile devices and while you could hook something like an Xbox controller up to it it was a somewhat confusing setup for controller players and if I remember correctly there was no way to change the controller inputs to make it feel more comfortable to use. It also didn’t help that this title launched about 2 weeks before Fortnite had a major update with the launch of Chapter 3 Season 1 that a lot of people were looking forward to and it had to compete with Fortnite and while Fortnite is on every console which makes it more accessible with the First Soldier being a mobile exclusive it meant less people would play it. I feel like if the game cam to Xbox, PlayStation, and Nintendo Switch as well then it could’ve had a much higher player base then what it got.
It was incredibly out of touch for them not to release it on pc and consoles. I never even heard of the game until now and likely would have tried it despite not being into battle royales per se, because of the IP but definitely not going to try battle royale on mobile regardless of what the IP is. SE has fallen so far over the years. It’s sad to see. I’m surprised they didn’t try stuffing it with NFTs before pulling the plug.
Square Enix as a company really have become compete bumblefucks...
Quite often one is left just confused as to wtf they're doing... wtf are you doing Square? Why the hell haven't you ported FFT War of the Lions to Switch or PC?
Wtf is wrong with you!?
But the company has become so horribly incompetent and inept that it is quite shocking really. I wonder what tell-all's and expose's will come out in a decades time... Really it seems to stem from focusing way too much on trend chasing, and way too little on their strengths.
The fastest way for me to lose interest in any game is the phrase Mobile Game Only, and thus I hear about the titles that try and fail after it was closed down. That said, being able to actually explore Midgar sounds fun, without the royale element.
I tried it, and uninstalled it as fast. If it came out on steam, there could have been an interest for the game.
Maybe the reason they decided to just shut it down rather than make PC/console versions was because A Team didn't have much expertise in that area. Sounds like they were mobile developers only. I guess Square Enix decided it was better to just pull the plug rather than pay A Team to port it to other platforms they weren't familiar with.
It’s simple. Cause it was on a phone only
Another Eden is also Phone only and is one of best JRPG in years
Exactly. I really wanted like it but could not play it on my phone.
@@liczasiecentymetry Perhaps, but majority of players of said franchise are usually console and pc. To throw something like that into phone only is jarring and will alienate some fans. When I first saw the trailer, I was like that looks like fun. But when I saw phone only, I completely lost interest.
@@liczasiecentymetry Which has no relevance to the discussion of a third-person shooter.
@@JoelBurger FF never should be a TPP game. Milking FF7 is just insane.
If The First Soldier was released on Consoles and PC as well it would've done a lot better and would've been fairly good competition for current BR games and I would've played it a lot too, a damn shame
I didn’t even know this game existed until now. I understand the need to branch out and give different experiences but as a long time FF player I long for the pre FFxiii game experiences. I’ve been more excited by games like SMT V or even the re-release of persona 5 for PC than any FF game. It’s a shame but I still have hold some hope for the series.
I remembered connecting my ps4 controller to my phone, enjoying the game more and thinking “yeah this would be better on consoles”
A Fortnite clone, that NOBODY wanted or asked for, released solely on mobile phones no less, really was doomed for failure.
It’s like they watched that blizzard announcement for diablo mobile and said “hold my beer”
This would have had a better chance of surviving with a PC release. I get mobile is big in Japan but SE needs to understand (but never does) that that is not the case overseas. Sure some people play Fortnite on their phone but the majority do not.
This is literally the first time I've even heard of the game. So that's great job at advertising Squenix did for it!!!
It was expanded upon during their "FFVII Special Broadcast" where Part 2 of Remake was shown, if I recall correctly.
I hate this I truly enjoyed this game. Ff7 was my childhood and I had so much fun on first soldier sucks
I just couldn’t understand why it never made it to consoles, the main audience knew it as a PlayStation series so to not put it on the system it’s famous on is bizarre to me
Is a shame, I was hoping for a console version as I don’t really play games on my phone
All it needed was to be put on steam, ps5, and xbl and it would have lasted.
Genuinely speaking i'm not surprised in the slightest as to why it got shut down so fast.
I remember when G-bike was announced and it seemed like a neat concept to recreate the minigame from FFVII in modern day, only to never be released outside of Japan and lasting a year as well.
The First Soldier seemed cool tbh but the mobile only attachment to it is what pretty much set it to failure instead of expanding to other types of consoles and PC.
True.
Had it been on consoles or PC things would’ve been different:
I woulda played instantly, I had no idea it even was out!
I think the idea of how the game played was really fun and unique. But their major flaw was that they made it purely for mobile only. When they should have also made it for steam on PC, PS4 and PS5, Xbox and Nintendo Switch with online cross-play and a roll back net code. But I feel Japan is currently behind on the idea of cross play and multi platform releases.
First Soldier was my first battle royale games and I had almost no idea what to do. I admit I wasn’t that good, but I did have so much fun with it! I loved playing as Monk and Ninja!!
I thought it would be a prequel to Crisis Core but it was a Battle Royale game 🤦🏾♂️
I played it a lot (a lot for how often I play games these days) and I really enjoyed the experience. I don't think it was a failure in terms of enjoyment but certainly in terms of accessibility. The biggest point being, as seen in a lot of the feedback and comments below, is that it was primarily mobile based. If the game had been released on other platforms then I am sure we wouldn't be in the position we are in now where we have to say goodbye to the First Soldier.
The other point I feel is that it was limited to the Final Fantasy VII world specifically. Again, not a failure in terms of enjoyment, but I felt this definitely limited the experience. The First Soldier allowed for a very action based experience fitting with Final Fantasy themes of magic, chocobos, and combat, but to keep that limited to FFVII held the experience back.I would have loved to have seen the Battle Royal experience include maps from other Final Fantasies.
A battle royal within Balamb Garden? Yes please!
So much potential was not explored and thats why it is closing. Hopefully this will inspire them to look further into it though as I would love to see an expanded FF Battle Royal on a wide range of consoles.
Interesting take!!!! I love the idea of the same gameplay, but with different worlds from other FF titles. That sounds amazing.
I play it quite often and have enjoyed it, feel it being on pc and consoles would have been better I'm sad to see it go
It’d be so dope on console!
Because it was trying to cash in on the BR craze far too late and only being on mobile lol
It didn't need to exist
I was actually very interested in the first soldier. I hate to play on smartphone so i was waiting for a pc or console release. What never happen
The consensus I usually see is that the game was fun and had some novel ideas, but was held back by the mobile exclusive platform. I kind of agree, and I'm surprised they didn't consider something like a steam release. Even Mobius Final Fantasy (another dead FF mobile title) had one and it was better for it.
Wells, maybe in the future reléase the game in consoles to.
i don't understand what square's deal is when it comes to choosing platforms for games. they send something like this to die on mobile, but only release Pixel Remasters on steam. what?
Biggest problem with this was that it was locked to Mobile... I would've played this a lot on something like my PS4 or my Switch
I don't game on my phone, it never works out for me. Anytime something goes to mobile, I'm excluded by default. Whenever SE puts a key title on mobile, they lose me on it.
If this was released on pc It'd be a hit
It's a real shame that this game was locked to mobile and never given a real chance to succeed. It's actually very fun. I've played the hell out of it since launch and absolutely love it
I would loved to play this game but being mobile kinda doesn't work for me.
The main cause is very simple in my opinion, this is not the type of game Final Fantasy fans are looking for to play + Final Fantasy is not exactly the type of series most battle royale players are interested in. It was a clash of worlds, but not in a good way. A console port would've definitely helped tho
I remember immediately disliking it conceptually just because I am so exhausted of Square making shit up in prequel spinoffs, in VII world especially. Just make it a VR training program for SOLDIER operatives and don't put it on the timeline at all.
If it wasn't locked to mobile I would have been a bit more willing to give First Soldier a go at least, but no I never even downloaded it, let alone played. I missed the poll on Ever Crisis you ran too, and while it might be a bit late, I am still excited to download and play that myself.
I really thought FS was a cool concept for a BR. Had quite a lot to play around with. I personally didn’t stick with it because I thought it would have definitely been better on PC and console. It just didn’t feel right on mobile. I was really hoping it’d have a PC release, but sadly it’s not going to happen.
I love this games melee part of its combat as I have won so many games using only melees as they made them actually viable plus there's no other br that plays like ff7fs with its class and materia system
I was really excited and downloaded it immediately, but I just could not get into the touch controls. I never, ever want to play handheld games and CERTAINLY not mobile games but I made an exception for this. Might have been better if I bought a purpose-made controller or something but I didn't see it lasting after I realised how clunky it felt. If it was on console I'd have stuck at it for a lot loner I think.
I have played First Soldier almost every day since release and it's one of my favorite games of all time now. Season 1 was a quite rough, but every update massively improved it and the gameplay and mechanics are incredibly polished at this point. They've added awesome modes like asymmetrical monster vs player battles where one could even battle as Sephiroth, sometimes fighting Cloud and they added objective based modes. The controller support is great and even the touch controls have very extensive options to accommodate personal preferences. I've gotten so many naysayers to try the game and they ended up loving it, including my own family members. It was refreshing to read the letters from the devs and see the transparency and communication between them and the players.
The game has so many features I wish games like Apex and CoD would implement. The unique RPG mechanics such as customizing player personality and appearance, vehicles, weapons, etc, and killing monsters to unlock cosmetics was very rewarding. Plus the game actually allows you to EARN so many items, cosmetics and abilities which isn't often seen in free to play games.
The game being mobile only essentially killed it before it even had time to expand and it's beyond sad to see it ending soon.
Exactly. It hurt the game badly being mobile only. This was the one battle royale i stuck with and actually was good at
I agree, there was a lot of good content and ideas in TFS, but Square Enix hobbled it by chaining it to the mobile platform (infamous for limited battery life, touch screen issues caused by the phone heating up, and others both personal and practical).
Had A Team been allowed to expand into the console market, reception would have been less negative and more people would have played it to form their own opinions more than just judging the game by its premise alone.
I strongly felt the game needed to be detailed more.
I got so good at this game and enjoyed the maps, spells, classes, and chocobo riding/ breeding so much!! Like, ik a lot didn't but I had the most awesome moments in the game playing from its release and hope for a remake or another square enix FF BR! Climbing the mountains, out playing good players with 1hp left, again the spells and abilities! I'm so saddened by the lack of support and dedication after release!! :'(
I feel this is a shame to be honest. I really enjoyed First Soldier for as long as I played it, being able to explore some Midgar setpieces as our own SOLDIER characters was fun. I definitely think the mobile-only release harmed it as a console or PC port would have made a larger playerbase a lot more fathomable. I know a lot of people disliked the idea entirely but I thought it was a fun game set in a setting I love and would have loved to see it move to larger consoles to become more accessible and easy to play.
I know I’m late to this, but as someone who couldn’t get a PS5 until this year, they curt tailed their own momentum by making intermission a PS5 exclusive. A lot of people like me just had to put our heads in the sand to anything FFVII related to avoid spoilers.
I think the game looked great and wanted to play it. It looked like it was trying to do something different and not just be another battle royal clone. I just had no intrest in playing it on a phone. I dunno why they never gave a console release a chance.
It fails because SquareEnix becomes too greedy
It's a shame. On my tablet with a controller or on a phone with a backbone it is a truly enjoyable experience
Square Enix LOVES wasting money.
At least EA, XBOX, and Activision are smarter in milking and enticing millions to spend.
SEnix, on the other hand...
Me and my friend played this for a good couple months and enjoyed it, probably my favourite battle royale. But with one map, things got really old, real fast, it just ended up being an app on my phone I don't bother with anymore.
They did add a second map
They added a new map, expanded both maps and have added a bunch of different game modes at this point.
It was a game i would have loved to play if it was on anything else but mobile
It’s a shame I REALLYYYY enjoyed this game and the chocobo hatching etc!! But they didn’t monetize the gacha system properly in my opinion. Rates were too low, pulls were too expensive, dupes were rewarded with increasing effects but there was 2 genders so it was INCREDIBLY difficult getting the male or female outfit you wanted.
Not only that but the technical updates kept killing excitement. They put in Chocobos and might as well completely removed them from the game based on how hard they nerfed them to the ground. So many bad adjustments….
Such a bummer cuz this was the ONLY battle royale I’ve ever enjoyed 😕
Played it, liked it. Yeah the touch screen control was horrible and i ended up bought an android joystick just for this game. TBH this game has potential, it felt unique compared to other battle royale games, and it has tight community and probably the least toxic video game fanbase out there. Though after one season, i ended quitting the game, simply because of the numerous annoying bugs. The game itself seems unoptimized for mobile and sometimes the control became unresponsive, player can fall off the terrain, sudden lag spike, etc to the point it became unbearable.
I dont know if this was fixed afterward or not, but by that point i think most of the players had enough with this. And yes, if this had been released on multiple platform, maybe it will perform better.
And while most people will probably forget the existence of this game, for some people first soldier has unforgettable memories. Just few days ago, SESIAH and ShinyShinryu celebrates their wedding at Sector 5 Church on FF7FS. Congratulations to them, few casualties tho, but it wholesomely ended well.
I remember trying it, hooking up my bluetooth controller, and being AMAZED at the controls. The way equipment, loots, powers, and even the vehicles worked were all amazing. Sadly the two maps got old quick and it was obvious I was up against bots to fill the lobby.
I played it, and made a gameplay video about it, but I never saw a other player...so thats when I stopped playing... Btw I want final fantasy mobius back! Hahaha thnx for the amazing video
I was so hyped for this game and then I never got done with the tutorial 😂 ooops
I play FF games to hack and slash, don't turn the genre into a shooter. Between that and it being a mobile title when I prefer console gaming, I decided to give this a wide berth. It felt so cash-grabby to water down the FF7 franchise like that. I hear "mobile game" and equate that to microtransactions. The whole thing was a hard pass for me.
I actually love the final fantasy battle royale. It brings a new aspect to it. WIsh they would come over to console and pc to push the game further. Not all games can be alike and that the best part of them but hopefully one day they drive to pc and console as I stated before.
I can say with full confidence that if it got a pc or console release I would have been a day 1 player. Was excited for this but mobile gun play is just not ever enjoyable. I play Genshin impact on my phone regularly and enjoy the controls but first soldier just never got there. Sad but expected outcome
You can't say record keeper is a succes a few weeks after it closed in all the west... T.T
16 minutes? The reason is because it was mobile-only. If it was at least on PC as well, it probably would've done decent. the gameplay was actually solid
Played the first month or two, got the battle pass, even stepped back in to check out dragoon. Would have probably played more if it was on console, and this is as someone that's not as into the battle royal genre. I just liked all the FF isms. Hell I play League Wild Rift cause I know they are working on a console version with cross data so I keep my skins and champions.
This game always came off to me as an obvious cash grab capitolizing on the popularity of FF7. I had no interest in playing it and I would have been surprised if it lasted a while.
I downloaded it and played the tutorial. I was impressed with the production values, but there was absolutely no way I was going to play the actual game with those touch controls.
If it was on PC or consoles, I absolutely would have given it more of a shot, but I can't promise that it would have held my attention. It wasn't exactly my genre of choice.
They just need to take it to console. 👍🏾 I love the concept. Just listen to the First Soldier fans Square....plzzz. 😔
I feel that the biggest problem First Soldier faced was being mobile only. Playing shooters on mobile devices, even with a controller, is tedious and painful. Typically small screens make it harder to see what's going on, plus the lack of consistent and reliable internet (cellular and wifi) can lead to a lot of problems. If it has been on PC, things might have been different.
Not at all, look at codm competitive side, it’s all touch screen. Ff7fs just had shitty touch controls from the start
@@darkvoidb9717 You're comparing the juggernaut, CoD, to Final Fantasy. FF is niche compared to CoD, and that's despite being the most recognizable RPG of all time.
I stopped playing 6 months into the release because my account was wiped. No clue why it happened or how but I was never able to get it back or get in contact with anyone to help. All the links were to Japanese sites. Just unmotivated to loose money and time like that
I definitely was one of the ones excited for The First Soldier before it launched and was also part of the confused when it was a battle royale. But as a hardcore fan of the series I gave it a chance. I played for quite and while and honestly didn't stop until about half a year ago. The map was usually too huge to find anyone, and it would drain my battery and overheat. So I ended up just dropping it. I was thinking about picking it back up again until I saw the twitter announcement that it was being shut down.
This does put a smile on my face. Hahaha. Square is trash. Been so for 2 decades. If they wanted to make money, all they need to do is make a great game. They arw mking what they can and all these predatory tactics are fine because the "fans" are buying into it
I thought it was a fun idea and tried to get into it a few times, but I'm just not a mobile gamer. I would have loved to see it on PC or a console.
.....i can't stress how stupid it was to make this a mobile only game like seriously! I loved th game but mobile is not it!🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️....
I played First Soldier quite a bit and really enjoyed it, but even within a month or so it was obvious that the game was struggling. If I played for an extended period I'd start to notice getting matched up with the same people, special event matches almost never had anyone actually playing them, and there was really no significant incentive to play Ranked over your standard Quick Match rounds. The game's Battle Pass had some neat rewards but the game was still pretty predatory overall and even with the Pass it felt like you needed to drop a lot of money just to actually get the cosmetics you cared about, more expensive than most Fortnite items.
Being locked to mobile was a HUGE misstep, too. I firmly believe this game would've taken off it had been on PC and Console as well. It takes the basic framework of Battle Royale but adds unique FF-style mechanics to it and that alone makes it feel fresh and unique in a world of Fortnites and PUBG's. Considering we haven't seen Ever Crisis even one time since its initial reveal, I have a strong feeling it's either getting shelved entirely or severely reworked to avoid the same problems First Soldier had.
We did have a bit of new stuff for EC back in June! Given the premise seems firmly rooted in the actual story and has also promised new story things, I do still think EC will be stronger a mobile title. Guess only time will tell though.
1. I know mobile is big in Japan, but there not an insignificant amount of people who don't go near them. That includes me! To not release a game like this (or Ever Crisis) multiplatform is just idiotic. I would for sure pick up Ever Crisis if it was on Switch or Playstation, but as long as it stays mobile-only, I'm not touching it.
2. I want Square Enix to move beyond this continued milking of FF7. Look, I get it -- it's a big deal and a significant game in the history of the series and the industry as a whole, but come on.. I'm getting sick of it. There are other FFs that are just as good if not better that deserve attention (FF6, FF9, FFT). Or, you know.. make NEW FF spin-offs, or focus those resources on new IP.
3. I think SE needs a management shakeup. The quality of their output lately has been all over the map, and their insistence on pursuing shit like NFTs is embarrassing.
The game was cool and a new flavor to try for the br genre but once the first season ended I felt the need for better aiming sensitivity and a proper console or pc release would make the experience so much better imo. I’d hope to get it one day but alas it ended shutting down instead. I stopped playing around the end of the first season.
It's on mobile.. if they actually launch it on PC then I will definitely give it a try.
You have a better chance at getting struck by lightning than you do launching a successful service game
@@4NT1N008 What?... that's an MMO. Stop being obtuse
"Nomura doesn't play battle royale games and frankly isn't interested in them."
Honestly it kind of shows, I played it a little myself and it was just... Underwhelming? There was nothing about it that made it stand out from the hundreds of other BR games these days. My personal opinion on it was:
- Being on mobile only most certainly hurt it, games with this level of intricacy need controllers or keyboards. It would be like playing an fps on mobile, it's going to be very hard to implement proper movement, aiming, shooting, reloading, grenades, special equipment/abilites and crouching on a touchscreen. Sure you can argue that everyone's in the same boat, but that also means everyone is probably frustrated that they could probably be playing way better as well.
- Relating to that it makes sense they wanted into the BR market, it's hugely profitable when you hit a niche so you can see their thought process. But again there was nothing about it that stood out, there weren't any unique mechanics or aspects of the game that would make BR players think "Sure, i'll give this a chance." beyond the fact that its FFVII. If that's the case you can forget about retaining your player base. Combining these last two points of course the fortnite and PUBG players weren't going anywhere.
- I have found, and I'm sure a large part of the fanbase would agree with this, the appeal of the Final Fantasy series as a whole has always been the storytelling, character development, party setup and tactical combat, none of which is present in First Soldier. Part of me was interested to maybe find out more about the early iterations of SOLDIER, how was it formed, what was different compared to the main story but all we got was... They all fight each other? For... Training? Fun? Honestly I don't know. It had as much depth as any other "Choose your fighter and chuck them into the arena."
You would have thought after Dissidia NT that square would have been a lot more careful in their approach of E-sport type games. Personally I don't care for battle royale games but there's a lot within the FF universe that could have potentially at least given this a niche audience.
Oh well, here's hoping they at least don't mess with the formula too much in Ever Crisis!
Being a Ff fan myself and hugely into 7, I agree with most being hopeful in new content. I lamented the thought though at a mobile game and even more so a Battle Royale. I still gave it a shot but knew all too well the game would die as I gave up a little after launch of FF7FS. This is a type of game that should've been on PC and they knew it. Even with all the fans trying to get emulators to play on PC and them continuously getting patched to stop the emulators....yea...
Completely forgot it existed and never even checked it out. Too bad it was a flop. But I really have no interest in battle royal, and wrote it off as incoming garbage the instant it was announced, because I knew square wouldn't be capable of pulling that kind of game off. The Square business structure just doesn't work that way, they never had a chance from day one because that's just in their DNA 🤷🏻.
I played first soldier for about 2 months or so.. then stopped because there was not a lot of people playing it... and felt like it was always missing something .
I found the game play was enjoyable and the graphics were very good.
I enjoyed this game, I had fun. Only issue I had was the camera control for android. People wanted it on PS4 and PC. I never heard anymore complaints other than that. I wish it stayed I spent cash in the game and all that will be going to a waste.
Honestly should be seen as a lesson about spending money in these kinds of games. That aside, it is a shame. I really wanted to give it a try, but my phone isn't exactly a good tool for games.
Hopefully Square realizes now that pre-registrations, which is just you putting in an email address to show interest means absolutely nothing lol.. That being said, I strum want Ever Crisis and hope this doesn’t impact it!
Yup, they lied about the downloads too. They tried to be make am ff fortnite and failed miserably.
I played the intro day 1. But it didn't interest me. To be fair, I'm an 'old' FF fan and by their own admission, this game wasn't made for me. But...yeah, this announcement doesn't bother or surprise me.
I'm jist as eager as ever to play any FF story games though. Not sure why people would avoid FF because a game that, whther you play FF or not, pretty obviously doesn't represent the RPG that is FF's bread and butter.